7-25-25 - 6am - Eminent Domain for Wolves and H-1B Visas

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
A great post yesterday by a person under Caesar Solid
four or IV says he knows people who raise funds
for Mayor Mikey, and that in private, Mayor Mikey will
admit that he's blown it, but he's afraid of his
left flank, and he begs Mayor Mikey to do the

(00:20):
right thing. Wouldn't it be incredible for me or Mikey
to turn around and say, I've screwed up. Let's get
Dunver back on the right track.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
And it's about as much likelihood of that happening as
there is for me saying, you know, Dragon Redbeard is
the greatest talk show host producer of all time.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Now ain't gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
I would counter the argument though, that yes, behind the scenes,
every leader, whether it be a company, a corporation, business,
or government, should think that they are a failure in
order for them to work harder.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yes, they should have around them a staff that is willing.
They should have, maybe not an entire staff, but they
ought to have a few confidants, some within the organization,
some outside the organizations.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
You you suck, yes, and that.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
You can go have lunch with and over a you know,
a nice you know, really, you know, a really good
shot at tequila and taco bell, you know, where they
could sit down in a nice, quiet corner of a
taco bell and tell you just how badly you suck.

(01:44):
Dragon is the greatest producer I've had in seventeen years already. See, well,
this is the downfall of artificial intelligence. He can take
every you know, at some point I probably said every
single one of those words, and he can spend hours,
you know, on end because he has nothing else to do.
He just sits back there and he and he can

(02:04):
string together those words and then ask some AI chat
bot to kind of put it into so it sounds
like I actually said that. So you know, don't believe,
don't believe anything, or you know, just in fact, how
do you know I'm even really here today? Maybe I'm
really still sick. Isn't it fascinating? Isn't modern medicine fascinating

(02:26):
that just even just forty eight hours ago, I could
barely get out the Michael Brown minute, And here I
am today and I'm just feeling like, yo, what what what?
What was that? I don't remember anything. Yeah, I remember
being like really really crappy. But was that real, I
am an idiot, and I freely admit that.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
See.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
See, he's gonna do that all day long and it's
just gonna irritate me.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
So I will. I will.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
But he doesn't understand that I have. I have the kryptonite.
I can just text message missus Redbeard and say he's
getting on my nerves today. I am the dumbest son
of a bitch in the world right now. So to
prove to you that I and to show that I
can segue out of this and just completely ignoring. Uh,

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I woke up this morning, Well I didn't. Well, yeah,
obviously I did wake up this morning. But I got
into the studio this morning, and I start opening all
the tabs that I have, you know in my history,
that I've got marked down on my list, start opening
my tabs, and I always open the text line. However,
I don't always read through the text line until later Gill,

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just before the show starts, to see if there's anything there.
But this morning, I don't know. One of them caught
my eye, and I guess I should give credit to
that individual. Let me see if I can find that
text again. Real quickly, he came from Google to number
fifty seven to fifty nine. Mike one, you'll be interested
in Colorado Parks and Wildlife Commission meeting commissioner, although that's

(04:00):
not correct. Glenn Parton proposed that the state or federal
government should buy out remote ranches via eminent domain to
reduce wolf livestock conflicts.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Then there's a hyperlink here to someone on X SO.
I did a little bit of research.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Glenn Parton, as best I can figure out, is not
a member of the caller Colorada Parks and Wildlife Operation,
but he is a former let me just tell you
what a few people say. The Real Range magazine points
out that Glenn Parton is a former student and friend
of Herbert Markuse and an incurable lover of wilderness, and
he would like to hear comments from others regarding the

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basic ideas he shares in his essay. The Edge readers
are encouraged to email him at Wind and Rain fifty
one at gmail dot com. He is a radical wilderness advocate,
according to the editor's note on an article Partner wrote
for rehy Wilding Earth, not defending, just clarifying that he's

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not actually a commissioner.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Let's see this is interesting.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
The first somebody that goes by Trent with an eye.
The first two results of a search on his name
Rewilding and against Civilization. This guy is a nut job,
and so he did a search and he comes up
with Rewilding Earth, and it's apparently a book that it's

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actually there was a website too, there's a bunch of
books on it, but it's toward it's rewilding dot org.
Toward a philosophy of wilderness. Glenn Parton is a former
student and friend of Herbert Markuse and an incurable lover
of wilderness, and he would like to hear comments from
others regarding the basic idea he shares in his essay

(05:57):
The Edge Glenn Marton The Anarchist Library. Glenn Parton Against Civilization,
edited by John Zerzon, Edited to December of twenty twenty three,
three hundred and forty two pages long. People point out, no,
he's not a commissioner, blah blah, blah blah, But I

(06:18):
want you this came from a July nineteen that was
a Saturday, if I recall twenty six. Yeah, they have
been last Saturday at Colorado Parks and Wildlife Commission meeting.
Glenn Parton proposed the following. Now, those of you living
out of state may not know, but you should if

(06:38):
you listen to the program, as you should be doing that.
We have a program that was the brainchild of the
first Gentleman, the husband of our Governor, Jared Polis, whose
name is Marlon Reese. Marlon is an animal rights advocate.
He may or may not be a vegan. I know
he hates armors and ranchers. I don't think he likes

(07:03):
he doesn't like cattle meat. Just to make sure you
understand that, you know, he doesn't like certain meats, and
that's one that he doesn't like and that he he
he really pushed through along with his liberal communists Marxist
socialist friends in Colorado, the idea that you know, since

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our lives had been so destroyed by the lack of
gray wolves in Colorado, that we needed to reach out
to the hinderlands and find other nations, Canada, other states, Oregon, Montana,
places that have wild wolves that they'd like to get
rid of, because you know, wild wolves, the gray wolves
tend to you know, kill all sorts of domesticated animals.

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And so we started, you know, basically because liberal communist
voters along the front range out voted the smart people
in the suburban and rural areas and decided to reintroduce
wolves into this state. And now a program that was
going to cost US X millions costs US X squared

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millions of dollars because we're having to keep reintroducing the
wolves because they die off and then they get killed
and they get shot. Farmers and ranchers are losing cattle
to them all the time.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
So they left because someone died in Wyoming.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
There's still a little bit that there in my chest.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
It is funny kind of one kind of wanders off
into Wyoming, doesn't doesn't see welcome to the Wyoming signs,
crosses the border, and band gets killed. Maybe we should
just all kind of, you know, find a you know,
an already dead carcass of a you know, a steer
somewhere and just kind of drag slowly and get the

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wolves to kind of follow us into Wyoming and turn
them loose in Wyoming and then rancher there can just
take care of them. So, of all of the solutions,
the primary solution to me seems to be get rid
of the wolves. No, Glenn Parton has a different idea,

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and he makes this suggestion at the Saturday meeting of
the Colorado Parks and Wildlife's Commission.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
I've come to the conclusion that the only real way,
the only real way to solve.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
The wolf livestock conflict, is for the federal government to
buy out branches and private property holdings in the most
remote regions of the Rocky Mountains so wolves can live
in peace and privacy.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Peace and privacy, I know, like my dogs sometimes like privacy.
Like they'll go into their kettel, or one of them
has a bed that's in kind of a little space
next to the fireplace that's kind of a little cubby hole.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
And sometimes they go there.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
But I never think of it as privacy, because my
dogs don't have any privacy. At any time that I
want to get the dogs to come with me, even
if I just say come and they fail to follow
the command, I can always grab a treat and boy, bingo,

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they'll follow me anywhere because oh.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Dad's got food. That's got food. We're going to McDonald's.
We're going to McDonald's. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
I don't put the concept of privacy in wolves together.
I don't quite get that.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
I've come to the conclusion that the only real way
to solve the wolf live stock conflict is for the
federal government to buy out branches.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
I'm sorry, I hate to keep interrupting, mister Parton, but
the wolf live stock conflict, Who's the cause of that conflict?
Is it the cattle? The sheep, the dogs, the cats,
the pets. Are they the ones that are you know,

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causing the conflict? Like, you know, they're just out grazing.
Now you've seen cattle grazing. It's a beautiful day somewhere
in the Rockies, the sun shining, the grass is growing,
and the cattle were out there. They got their necks
down and they're just they're just grazing along, just chomping
and chewing and you know, walking a little bit, taking
a dump at the same time. Isn't that great to

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be able to just take a dump and eat at
the same time. It's just, you know, it's amazing, just
you know, animals just have it so good, Like we
can just kind of you know, yeah, I'm kind of
busy eating my corn dog here, but yeah, I gotta
take it dumb. I was gonna get dumb, keep eating
my corn dog. Animals have it so great. So the
cattle are just you know, minding their own business. Do

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you think they go hunting for the wools? No, the
wolves go hunting for the cattle. Language is so important,
so important. Listen to what this dumbass says.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
I've come to the conclusion that the only real way
to solve the wolf live stock conflict is for the
federal government to buy out branches and private property holdings
in the most remote regions of the Rocky Mountains so
wolves can live in peace and privacy. The federal buyout

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should be voluntary to begin with, based on fair market prices.
A second point for those unwilling to act in the
common good, the federal government should use the right of
imminent domain, as authorized in the Fifth Amendment of the

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US Constitution. I would like to point out that Great
Smoky Mountains National Park and Shannandoah National Park we're.

Speaker 6 (13:01):
Both created through imminent domain.

Speaker 7 (13:05):
And without this illegal action, animals would be in far,
far worse shape. Today. Great Smoky National Park is the
most visited nation park in the nation, offering great freedom
and happiness to all forms of life, human and non human.
Let us uphold the US Constitution and taking property with

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just compensation that benefits the public good. Humans in their
and their activities have no place in the wildest parts
of the Rocky Mountains. Eminent domain has been used throughout
our history to destroy nature. So we need to overcome

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this double standard by using it to heal nature.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Craigan, while we're healing nature, could you do me a
quick favor?

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Possibly? I hate to ask you to do this.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Could you just do a quick like Google search of
some sort and find out what percentage of Colorado property
is already owned by the federal or state government. You know,
how much is in private hands versus government hands, because
I think we're already like the minority.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
To begin with the.

Speaker 7 (14:20):
Third point, all public lands should be designated wilderness, terminating
raising right the last sentence, terminating all grazing and commercial uses,
because this is the only way to solve the biodiversity crisis,

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especially for apex predators and carnivores.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
What is it?

Speaker 4 (14:48):
Quick Google search AI overview. So I'm just going to
trust this as it is. The federal government owns twenty
four point one million acres of land in Colorado, which
represents thirty six point two percent of the state's total land.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
So more than a third of the land in Colorado
is already owned by the federal government. Yep, yep, okay, well,
you know, so why not go to two thirds? In fact,
I think what we ought to do is, why don't
we just get the federal government the annex just by
imminent domain the city and County of Denver and just
turn it into you know, you know, like a giant Alcatraz.

(15:25):
We you know, instead of Alligator Alcatraz, we could have
Denver Alcatraz, and we could just you know, we've already
got enough the illegal aliens in the state right there. Anyway,
we could just kind of wall it off, and that
way we could just you know, kind of build interstates around,
you know, a giant wall to encompass Denver, and then

(15:46):
Mike Johnson and all of his wolves and all of
the homeless and the illegal aliens, everybody could just all
kind of thrive together, you know, in peace and harmony, peace, harmony,
and love.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
It's good news here in Colorado because nationwide, the federal
government owns around twenty eight percent of the land. But
we're not as bad as Nevada, with they own eighty
three percent of Nevada. Three estates like Connecticut and Rhode Island,
they have less than one percent over there.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
And then and then people got mad at Senator Mike Lee.
Now he may not handle the communications of the public
relations about this very well, but he wanted to kind
of decrease the amount of land that is owned by
the federal government and return it to private hands. Now,

(16:37):
you know, we did that before. We had like the
land run in Oklahoma. I mean, my gosh, that's how
Tamer's great great maybe great grandparents, I forget which one
it was, but that's how they that's how they acquired
a huge amount of property in Oklahoma was through a
land run. Yeah, her great great grandfather just you know,
got on a horse and went charging off off the

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starting line and staked out, you know, a couple of
sections of land, and Bingo families got a couple of
sections of land.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, we just do that again, Just do it again.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Except this time we'll have the wolves participate too, and
and the wolves can engage in a land rush and whatever.
You know, we'll have a battle between you know, men
on dirt bikes and men on four wheelers on ATVs uh,
people in four wheel drives, people on horses and then
the wolves can you know, they're already predators, so they

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can just run along themselves and they can all we
can all just stake out our home property. This is
the bull crap that goes on at the Colorado Parks
and Wildlife Commission. That that's who influences them, That's who
they listen to. That that's probably that's probably one of
Marlon Reese's best friends.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Let's use imminent domain.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Let's use the United States Constitution to support returning bio
diversity so that we can all live happily ever after.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
You know what, mister Barton, bite me.

Speaker 8 (18:14):
Morning Dragon, Morning Mitchell. Hey Michael, could you tell me
when you buy a house you pay taxes and then
every year you have to still pay taxes.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
When you already paid taxes when you bought it. Just
kind of.

Speaker 8 (18:29):
Curious what you're thought, what you're Yeah, let me know,
Happy Friday, gentlemen, have a good day.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
I don't know where that came from, But if you've
not heard me talk about how we ought to eliminate
property taxes, if if nothing else, eliminate I mean, even
if you can't just eliminate them entirely, eliminate them. For
someone who has. You know, maybe maybe they bought a

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house and they paid cash for it. Okay, well, no
property taxes. There's no rationale of this. I'm just trying
to think of a way to ease into it. Or
you buy a house and you buy it through a mortgage, well,
you pay property taxes until you pay the mortgage off.
Or you pay property taxes on a piece of real

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estate or a home, whatever it might be, until.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
You reach a certain age.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
You know, you reach the age fifty five or sixty five,
you no longer pay property taxes on it. It just
seems to me that at some point you have to
be able to own your property. You have to be
able to own your property. You never do. If you
always have a you have an opportunity, you have a

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chance that failure to pay your property taxes results in
a tax lean and you lose your home. And we
have the cases I played the sound by just last week,
I think it was just last week of John Stossel
talking about the woman that you know, the courts have
finally ruled that Okay, you can put a tax Liane

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on and you can then sell the property, but you
cannot keep the difference between what is old on the
property taxes. And you know you'll you owed one thousand
dollars on the property taxes and they sold the home
four hundred thousand dollars. You cannot keep three hundred ninety
nine thousand dollars. You got to return that back to
the property owner. It took a Supreme Court case to

(20:23):
finally rule that, yeah, you can't do that. Good grief.
But the whole idea of property taxes, you're taxing property.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
I paid for that property.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
But then again, you get me riled up about coupital
of games taxes.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
What other property is tax It's not like they're going
to continuously tax your iPhone or your television or your
computer every year.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Right, we paid, You paid a sales tax, and now
you own that property.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
You paid the tax on the transaction and out yours.
I don't know. You don't.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
You don't pay a property tax on a on a vehicle.
Of course, you pay all sorts of other tax there. Yeah, well,
I'm sorry, that's right. You pay fees, you don't pay tax.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
And your sneakers, you don't continuously pay on those for
every year. Your boxers that you're wearing, and you just
paid for that once.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Who wears boxers, who wears underwear? What are you talking about?
I don't because I thought there were property taxes on
boxers and and you know, brief so I don't wear anything.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
You know, I'm just I, you know, I'm I can't
say that, but no, I'm not doing that either.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
I always thought H one B visas were actually a
good idea because H one B visa, according to its
original meaning, was that if you had a special skill
that was in short supply in this country, then you
could get an H one B visa to come to

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this country and work because you had a special skill
that was in high demand, short supply, or which you know,
a company could not find anybody else to do.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Well.

Speaker 6 (22:18):
Jd.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Vance was at a forum I think this was yesterday,
and it caused me to do a little digging to
find out whether not the story was true.

Speaker 9 (22:28):
A massive shortage of these jobs. And by the way,
you see some big tech companies where they'll lay off
nine thousand workers and then they'll apply for a bunch
of overseas visas and I sort of wonder, my, that
doesn't totally make sense to me, meth does that displacement
in that math worries me a bit.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
And what the President has said.

Speaker 9 (22:45):
He said very clearly, we want the very best, in
the brightest to make America their home. We want them
to build great companies and so forth. But I don't
want companies to fire nine thousand American workers and then
to go and say we can't find workers here in America.
About the Microsoft say, when you brought that up with Microsoft, I.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
To them about it.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
I have not.

Speaker 9 (23:08):
I just became aware of this a couple of weeks ago.
Somebody would sent me an article about this and they said, well,
you know, and it maybe was Microsoft was fired I
think nine thousand people. And then I was like, wait
a second.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
Record profits, record market cap.

Speaker 9 (23:22):
And but also saying they're desperate for workers. So I
have not yet had that conversation with Microsoft. In my defense,
I just found out.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
So there is substantial there's substantial evidence from different reports, studies,
government sources indicating that some tech companies and some of
these outsourcing firms have indeed been abusing the H one
B visa program because i'll higher foreign workers at lower
pay scales than comparable American citizens or residents, and then

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they displaced or undercut those American workers. Now that abuse
isn't universal. I mean, many A one BEE visas are
for legitimate skill gaps, and there's some analysis out there
that suggest that the programs overall economic benefits do exist.
But a lot of labor economists and actually some government

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agencies are beginning to point out that there are systemic
issues like wage suppression, outsourcing, and exploitation. There are multiple
studies that show that H one B visa workers, particularly
in tech roles, are frequently paid below market rates or

(24:36):
below median wages for similar positions. Let me give you
a few examples. About sixty percent of all H one
B jobs certified by the Department of Labor are assigned
wage levels that are below the local median wage for
the same occupation. In computer related occupations, which pretty common

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in tech, H one B salaries average seventeen to thirty
four percent lower than the local median average in those
same jobs for American workers. And then you got the
big giants, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Apple, IBM. Those are the

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top H one B employers in the country. Now they
legally pay many H ONEB workers below the local median
wage by exploiting program rules that allow lower prevailing wage floors.
For an instance, in twenty twenty three, the average promised

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salary for a new H one B worker in computer
related roles was ninety nine thousand dollars, But that's twenty
five percent less than the one hundred and thirty two
thousand plus average for US software developers. The seventy fifth
percentile for H ONEB D workers about one hundred and
twenty six thousand dollars, is still five percent below the

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US average. Then, as the vice president pointed out, Deloitte,
which is a major tech consulting firm in DC H
one B visa holders in accounting roles were paid and
estimated ten percent less than US workers in similar positions.

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So there's clearly a power imbalance between these a sponsorship
that's limiting workers bargaining power, and these disparities exist, and
they persist too because the H one B rules permit
the employers to set wages based on entry level floors
that don't account for these hot skills or highly in

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demand skills for that matter, experience, So that effectively undercuts
more seasoned US workers. If you look at the historical
data from two thousand and four to twenty twenty two,
it shows that H one B tech wages consistently at
only sixty five to eighty six percent of US software

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developer averages. It's just another form of abuse that's going
on the USCIS, that's the US Citizenship and Immigration Services.
They note that H one B abuse can and does
in almost all cases, decrease wages and job opportunities for
US workers because they import foreign labor at lower costs.

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How do they do that, Well, they don't pay the
certified wage on the labor condition application, or paying H
one B workers less than their US peers for doing
exactly the same job, or they assign H one B
workers duties at a higher skill level than they petition for,

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or they place them in unauthorized locations, and then they
bench workers it's called benching workers, not paying them while
waiting on the projects, or hiring less experienced foreign workers
overqualified Americans. Outsourcing firms exacerbate this. Thirteen of the top

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thirty H one B employers in twenty twenty two or
outsources outsourcer firms like Infosystems, Data Consultancies, and Cognizant, all
which paid the lowest legal wages, often which was below
market rates and then offshore jobs. To cut costs even further,

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those firms skim twenty to forty percent of workers wages
as fees. Now, wait a minute, you're skimming the wages
that you already that are already below the market average,
and then you skim twenty to forty of those wages

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as fees. Well, isn't that creating like an indentured servant
kind of condition where the workers can't quit without risking
deportation because they're here on the H one B visa
and so they're kind of at the mercy of the employer,
so they do it. It's also creating a de facto

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indentured servitude. You know, I've come the more I dug
into this yesterday because I was actually, you know, the
concept of an H one B visa. A company needs
a very specialized, you know, employee, highly skilled in something
that we just don't have in this country. I don't

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know what it is, but I mean there's surely something.
And so they apply for and get an H one
B visa because hey, we've identified you know, Mohammed from
you know, Boom Mumbai or wherever that can come over
here and do something. And so we're gonna come over here.
I just kind of always made a dumbass assumption that

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we would pay them the prevailing wage.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
No, we don't. But then when we get back. Jd.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Vance pointed out something that I think you ought to
be aware of when he pointed out that, oh, the
H one B visas end up causing us layoffs. Uh,
we got the receipts.

Speaker 8 (30:35):
Hey, Michael, and here I always thought it was gonna
be something else that caused eminent domain. You know those
college kids turnip oil or uranium or something out there.
The next thing, the Feds will be at our door. Sorry,
domain down? Yeah, Burt, Why you worry you have a

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heart attack before you get a chance to survive.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
World War three?

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Movie and we can be friends. Name the movie.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
That's pretty good. That's pretty good. So here here are
the stats that I found, and there may be a
little twist to at least Microsoft. In twenty twenty two,
the top thirty H one B employers hired more than
thirty four thousand new H one B workers that's forty

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percent of the cap while laying off at least eighty
five thousand employees. And the examples I found were Amazon
with sixty four hundred h one B hires and more
than twenty seven thousand layoffs. Google fifteen hundred h one
B hires and twelve thousand layoffs. Now these layoffs are

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globally Meta with fifteen hundred more than fifteen hundred h
one B hires and twenty one thousand layoffs, Microsoft with
more than one thousand h one B hires, ten layoffs
with more than fourteen thousand, h one B applications filed
amid nine thousand cuts in a separate report. And you

(32:10):
found something slightly different, Dragon, Well, what'd you find from
the Times? We going to do to the Times of India.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Times of India, Yeah, it says someone's quoted in the
article Microsoft didn't bring in new foreign workers after laying
people off. They renewed visas for longtime employees who have
been in the US legally for many, many years.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
And then, of course the question I would have, which
that may also may or may not be true, is
at what pay scale? And then interesting, we get a
text message that from GUBA number seventy one eighty three
it says, Mike, welcome to my thirty five year experiences
in it lay off the US citizen skilled experienced worker,

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then higher offshore talent, and H one B skills in it.
The H one B is a cost saving measure, not
a skills filling, not filing, not filling a skills gap. Yeah,
I think they have a point. So the question then becomes,

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how do we fix that? Because I do believe, I
still believe that an H one B visa for a
skill that is not available in the country that you
need to fill, that's you know, important to your job,
important to your company. You should be able to do that,

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but you shouldn't be able to do it, and then
just oh, now we're going to lay We're going to
replace you you're an American worker with somebody from India
because we can hire them and attend to the salary. Yeah,
there's always something, always something, six zero two seven. Yeah,

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my companies don't deport fired workers.