7-26-25 The Weekend Hour 1: The Dead Horse Story of Jeffery Epstein Keeps Resurrecting. Why? Trump!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The night Michael Brown joins me.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Here the former FEMA director talk show host Michael Brown.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
Brownie, no Brownie, You're doing a heck of a jumb.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
The Weekend with Michael Brown.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey broadcasting life from Denver, Colorado. It's the Weekend of
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(01:15):
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not flip the dial, you will not go away. Because
for those of you listen listen to me during the weekday,
you know that I was I got I got this
stupid influenza during the week and so I was out
for several days. And although a couple of days I

(01:36):
was just so bad that I really I just didn't
do any reading. I barely paid attention to the news.
But I found something. You know, it's always interesting when
you go on vacation or you're out sick or for
whatever reason, something that particularly radio and and where you
are you're imass and everything that goes on every single
day because you've got to cover you know, topic A,

(01:58):
B and C. And you know, four hours during the
weekend a weekday and three hours on the weekend, you've
got to cover all these topics. And I tend to
do topics will probably more in depth than most hosts do.
Because I find the topics themselves interesting. Well, one thing
that I found fascinating is I have, as many of
you have said on the text line or in emails

(02:20):
to me, you've beat this dead horse, and I've quit
beating this dead horse. Well, damn it, I want to quep.
I want to quit beating the dead horse too. But
then I look around and only cab crap everywhere I go.
That damn horse still is still running around. I'm not
the one keeping it alive. I'm not the one keeping

(02:40):
the Epstein horse alive. It's other people. And so I've
done kind of a I've done an analysis that I
want to give to you today about why why is
it that this story will not go away? And I
want to give you two different perspectives before we start on.

(03:05):
And this is one reason to be follow me on X.
I have a mutual follower. We'll just use her first name, Jinny.
I don't actually know what I'd have to go look.
I can find it because she's one of these incessant tweeters,
incessant posters. But uh, every every I shouldn't say every nine.

(03:33):
So nine and a half out of ten posts that
she puts up on X is about releasing the Epstein
files because Trump and Pambondi and Cashpitel and Dan Bongino
and everybody and everybody except her is covering up for pedophiles.

(03:53):
And these pedophiles are all elitists. They're the billionaires and
the millionaires. They're the titans of indust they're the titans
of politics. They're the ruling elite, they're the cabal. They're
all involved, and they're all in those files, and we're
covering up for them. Okay, And then we have the
other we have on the other end. We've got people

(04:16):
that are telling me incessantly on X and other places,
quit talking about this, that this is distracting from all
the good stuff that Trump is doing. This is distracting.
This is all about trying to get Trump, really, because
we know Trump's name is in the birthday book. We

(04:37):
know that Trump's name is in the files. So when
I say the files, what am I talking about, Well,
I'm talking about all the investigating files, all of the
transcripts of the grand jury investigations, all of whatever whatever
encompasses that big pile of tarbage called the Epstein files.

(04:57):
We know Donald Trump's name is in there. I don't
think my name is in there. I never met him,
I never knew him, I never had innery, I enery
any interaction with him. But would I be surprised if
my name was in there. No, I would not be,
simply because it seems to me, out of three hundred
and you know fifty million Americans, probably three hundred and

(05:18):
forty nine million Americans names are probably in there. That's
how absurd it's become. But people will not let it go.
And it runs the gamut. And as I talked to
a national audience three hundred plus stations all across the country,
plus people that live that listen on the podcast overseas,

(05:42):
there are you run the gamut. Also, you're on both
ends of that spectrum. Shut up about this, Oh, don't
shut up about this, because you're covering up for pedophiles.
It's absolutely utterly insane. Mike Johnstone of the House recently
did an interview with Major Garrett used to be with

(06:05):
I think ABC News.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Mostly to that point, punch Bowl wrote this morning, and
I know you respect punch Bowl thep and I'm quoting here.
The GP controlled House is an arm of the White House.
If you're a congress Watcher, you understand this. Under Speaker
Johnson and Trump, the House simply isn't an independent.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Branch of government anymore.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Whether it's on Russia sanctions, the Jeffrey Epstein files are
voting for a five trillion dollar debt limit increase. House
Republicans do whatever Trump tells them to do.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
That's nonsense.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
What punch Bowl is coming on is the fact that
we're working as a in unified government, which is a
rare occasion in our system. We had the Republican party
in charge of the White House, the Senate, and the House.
The Speaker of the House and the President have a
very close working relationship, and we are.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
I want you to know, I could have played literally
thirty seconds of this interview to make the point. But
the point about unified government, I think is actually part
and parcel of what's going on with the Epstein files.
It's that Republicans do control the House, the Senate, and
the White House, and so people are of two minds.

(07:15):
There are those who like me, who are glad we
have unified government. I'm glad to finally see some of
these Republican policies being implemented. Then there are those who
are glad that there's unified government, but they're pissed off
because we're covering up for pedophiles. And then there's a
third group and they're pissed off about unified government too,

(07:38):
and those are the Democrats, the Marxist the communists over
here on the left side of the political spectrum, who
are mad because, oh, yeah, we're actually doing what we
said we would do. They're actually doing what I voted for,
and they're pissed off about that. So I thought that
was really interesting that Major Garrett starts out with you're
just a mouthpiece for the White House. We're actually working

(08:00):
as a team right now, and we are not used
to that because we're so used to being in the minority.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
You're running a playbook that was very carefully designed. We
worked on The Big Beautiful Bill for a year and
a half before we delivered that product over the goal line.
I first saw this moment in time and victory left preparation.
So that makes the Democrats, and it makes the authors
of Punch Bowl very nervous because they don't want the
Republican Party to advance our policies as efficiently and effectively

(08:27):
as we are. They don't give us any credit and
punch bowl for having the most successful six months of
any Congress and administration arguably and at least in the
modern era, and maybe one of the top two or
three in all of the history of this institution.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
So I take that as a badge of honor. There
is a big difference, and.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
What people don't see is the discussions behind the curtains,
the discussions that I personally have with the President of
the United States.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
We gain this out.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
I prevent conflicts between the branches before they occur, so
that when the policies are announced as that we have
already predetermined are in the best edge of the country.
So it looks as though we're not standing up when
I've already had the difficult discussions, but behind the closed door.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
So that's what you call good governance.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
It's very important for the Speaker of the House and
the President to have a close working relationship.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
And I make no apology about that at all, nothing.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Wrong with that whatsoever. There's really nothing wrong with that whatsoever.
It's the weekend with Michael Brown. We're going to beat
the dead horse again because it just won't sit down.
And I want you to think about where do you
fall on the killing of the horse or are you
giving it oxygen? I'll be right back. Hey, welcome back

(09:47):
to the Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to have you
with me. Be sure and follow me on X at
Michael Brown USA. One last thing about Mike Johnston, the
Speaker of the House, because this is an example of
why this Epstein story keeps getting resurrected.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
Yes, and it's a great concern to us. I mean,
we want full transparency. We want everybody who is involved
in any way with the Epstein evils, let's call it
what it was, to be brought to justice as quickly
as possible. We want the full weight of the law
on their heads.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Well, when the.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Justice Department said in that same two page memo there's
no reason to pursue further prosecutions, many said, how can
those two things be properly aligned? Is it?

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Great? Questions? I don't know.

Speaker 5 (10:33):
I've never seen the Epstein evidence. It wasn't in my lane.
But I have the same concern in question that a
lot of people do.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
And look, I think the presidence is not a hoax.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
In other words, it's not a hoax. Of course not
It's not a hoax. I think that sums it up
the It's a great concern to us. I mean, we
want full transparency. We want everybody who was involved in
any way with the Epstein evils to be brought to
justice as quickly as possible. We want the full weight

(11:03):
of the law in their heads. But then Major Garrett says,
but when the Department of Justice says in that two
page of memo that we found no reason to pursue
further prosecutions, many have said, how can those two things
be true at the same time. And Johns's response is, well,
those are good questions, and I don't know the answer

(11:24):
to that because he's never seen the Epstein evidence. That's
why this story continues, that that dead horse continues to
get resurrected. Now the investigation itself is largely closed. The

(11:46):
Department of Justice affirmed in that memo from this month
that is systemic, systematic review of over three hundred gigabytes
of data revealed no black male evidence or any formal
client lists. And then officials concluded that Epstein's death was suicide,
countering all the conspiracy theories prevalent along among a lot

(12:10):
of groups. Now partial files had been released that was
back in February, the flight logs and an evidence list
from Epstein's properties. But there are thousands of pages that
remain under review within the Department of Justice, or they
are sealed. For example, the grand jury transcripts from the

(12:32):
Florida case back in two thousand and five, two thousand
and seven and the New York cases. They sought to
have those records unsealed. I'm not surprised the judges said, no.
Grand jury evidence is only in very rare and very
tiny and very specific reasons ever released. You know why

(12:57):
the example I always uses myself. I get called before
a grand jury not because I've committed a crime, but
because the district attorney, the prosecutor believes that I have
some information, some evidence about a crime, or that somehow
I was, you know, I was somehow tangentially involved, not

(13:19):
in the crime itself, but with the person the perpetrate
of the crime. So they want to know what I know,
which may or may not help in their prosecution. So
I get a subpoena. Now the subpoena is secret, I
can't say, hey, I've been I've been called to testify
before the grand jury. So I go testify. I get

(13:39):
done and the grand jury. Here's what I said. It's transcribed,
it's now part of the record, and now I go home.
Nothing it'd ever said was used either by the grand jury,
or the grand jury dismissed it, or it gets put
away because it was it was of no relevance. So

(13:59):
when the person gets indicted by the grand jury and
goes to trial, my name never comes up. But if
you were to release the transcript then there would be
people would say, oh, look, Michael Brown, he testified from
the grand jury. Well what did he say. Well, let's
see that testimony, because if we don't see that testimony,

(14:22):
then we're going to assume that somehow he was involved
in that criminal activity. No, I don't want my name
associated with something that I had nothing to do with.
So I don't want that. I don't want those transcripts released.
You could be easily called subpoenaed to testify before a
grand jury or for something you had nothing to do with.

(14:42):
You don't want your name released anymore than I want
my name released. Then we got Islaine Maxwell. She's serving
a sentence for trafficking minors. She filed for Supreme Court
review in July of this year just what like I
think she may be filed yesterday amid speculation that she

(15:04):
wants a pardon or some sort of commutation of her
sentence by Donald Trump in exchange for her testimony. No
major new indictments have emerged, and the case by many
people is seen as seen as closed. Though this public
pressure that keeps reviving this dead horse for full transparency persists, persists.

(15:27):
And I think that's where we get to the crux
of why this horse stays alive. Many people think several things.
Many different people think many different things. One is, let's
go back to Jenny, the person in my timeline on X.
She believes that Trump, I sincerely believe based on what

(15:47):
I read her say read. What she writes is that
she believes that Donald Trump is covering up for his
billionaire friends, or maybe even covering up for some Democrats.
Bill Clinton. We're looking at you or any number of
other people, maybe names that we've never even thought about.
You know, I hesitate to even throw a name out there.
You know, I could randomly pick some billionaire. You know,

(16:09):
I'll pick on David Murdoch. David Murdoch is a billionaire
owns used to own Dole Foods. He's now deceased. He
died a few months ago. He was a friend of mine,
a really, really nice guy. David Murdoch's name has ever
been associated with that with the Epstein case. But people
think that there are people in that stratosphere of our

(16:32):
society that are somehow involved and that there is a
cover up. Then there are the people. Because Donald Trump
signed a birthday card, wrote a birthday letter, and you know,
had this stupid little drawing of a outline of a
necond woman and stuff, then somehow he's involved. Do you
realize that Donald Trump's name does not appear anywhere on

(16:52):
the manifest of anybody traveling to or from Jeffrey Epstein's
island out He never went to the island. So Democrats obviously, oh,
there's something there, and Trump's hiding it. The story won't
go away because everybody has their reasons and it always

(17:14):
boils down to one word, five letters, Trump, Yes, Trump,
let it go, Just let it go.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Tonight, Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA director
of talk show host Michael Brown. Brownie, No, Brownie.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
You're doing a heck of a job.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
The Weekend with Michael Brown.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Hey, it's The Weeke with Michael Brown. Glad to have
you with me. You know, if you like what we
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(18:02):
time and get another five days of this program. I
have some friends that are traveling to London and I
thought about them this morning as I was listening to
Nigelle Parrage talk about how there is he believes societal
collapse coming to the United Kingdom, and he cites the

(18:27):
crime that is persistent in many parts of London, well
in fact throughout the United Kingdom. And there's a great
story over on zero Hedge about Frage and what he
had to say. And there are a couple of videos there.
I'd encourage you to go watch them. One is about
the crime in Manchester and how it's utterly destroying the city.

(18:54):
I've been to Manchester a few times and I've stayed
in the Big Stadium. They've really nice hotel, there speaking
to a group of firefighters, and I mean that's been
you know, a decade ago, but it was a wonderful place,
an interesting place, and of course I still love London,
although I haven't been in a while. But watching those

(19:16):
videos again, it's over at zero hedge dot com if
you want to see them, you come to the conclusion
that it's this, it's this embrace of illegal aliens. It's
the idea of multiculturalism and the idea that you know,
diversity is our strength. Well, I believe in diversity, but

(19:40):
I believe in assimilation. For example, you know, I'm partnered
even American, Cherokee, Indian. I'm not Elizabeth Warren. I can
actually trace my grandfather back to a Cherokee tribe that
was on the Trail of Tears, actually my great grandfather.
But in particular I remember my grandfather himself. And even

(20:02):
though we would celebrate that Native American heritage, we were
still Americans. We made certain my family made certain that
we didn't use or abuse that Native American background for
any special privileges or anything else. We just didn't do that.

(20:25):
We were Americans. Well, we know that people like Congressman
Elon Omar, the mayor running for the mayor of Minneapolis,
Omar Fatal Decat de Locke. All of these people from
Somalia in particular, have made it clear that US politicians

(20:48):
that has Somalian backgrounds are not really fond of this country.
I present with you, present to you Democrat Mana Abdi,
always democratsitude. You notice that she's a member the main
House of Representatives if you want further confirmation of how

(21:11):
they disliked this country, which makes me wonder than one
why are you here? Two? How did you get elected?
And three why do we let people like you in
the country to begin with? Because the Immigration and Naturalization
Act is based on the premise that you come here

(21:31):
and you're going to assimilate anything.

Speaker 6 (21:34):
So coming into the States, everything from the snow to
you know, the housing, the homes that we were all
of a sudden occupying everything was a shock. Honestly, every
day was something new, and I'm like, oh my god,
this is just getting worse.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah, so it state, did you guys learn first of all?

Speaker 6 (21:54):
Kansas?

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Kansas city of all places?

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, Kansas, of all places, that's the first place we land.
What what Wizard of Oz you got caught in a tornado,
and you got plopped down in Kansas and you woke
up and you went, well, this is a crap hole place.
What am I doing in Kansas? Well, then once you
go back home, just go back home. I honestly feel
that way. Just go back home. You know, you're a

(22:20):
member of the main legislature. Maybe you have to turner.
Maybe you ought to sit down and compare your crap
whole country of Somali to America. Oh you don't like
our houses, go back to the hunt and Somali. Oh
you don't like our food, Well, I'm sure you can find,
you know, ethnic food somewhere that you like, because in

(22:44):
this country you can find every ethnicity, you can possibly
a manage of food. But no, I just I just
don't like it here.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
It's awful anything.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
So coming into the States, everything from the snow to
you know, the housing, the homes that that we were
all of a sudden occupying, everything was a shock.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Honestly, you know how much I mean she went a
bet that the homes that she claims they were quote
occupying was provided courtesy of you, Yes, the American taxpayer.

Speaker 6 (23:16):
Every day was something new, and I'm like, oh my god,
this is just getting worse.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, so state, did you guys learn first of all.

Speaker 6 (23:22):
Kansas Kansas City have all places. Yeah, it's like a
boot camp for me basically because it's just like right, like,
I mean, anyone who lives in May knows Main and
has ever visited Kansas, they will know what I'm talking about.
It's just this is a lot interesting as a person
of color, honestly, or a black person.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Oh, throw the race cart out there too. You know,
she doesn't seem to be brimming over with appreciation for
her adopted country. And maybe that could be because she
is not here to assimilate into it, but she is here.
Like Nigel Farage is pointing out about the United Kingdom,
in fact, most of the continent, the European continent, is

(24:06):
being fundamentally transformed by this I think purposely encouraged migration
of illegal aliens from third world craphole countries into Western civilization.
They are literally destroying Western civilization and nobody seems to

(24:32):
recognize the destruction it's having. In fact, I think Najale
Farage is probably correct. It probably is leading to some
degree societal collapse. I give you before I go to
Congressman Rashida to lead. Think about that woman. She's come
to this country, she's bitching about this country. Yet somehow

(24:54):
she's been elected to be a state representative to the
main legislature. You know, shut up in Sadel, Maybe you
ought to appreciate this country. You came here, you somehow
convinced you know, enough dumbass voters to vote for you,
and yet you still go on those stupid podcasts and

(25:15):
bitch about Kansas. You bitch about this, you bitch about that.
I mean, our housing is horri blah blah blah blah.
You see, they don't want to assimilate, they want to transform.
There's no question in my mind about that Congressman Rashida
to leave.

Speaker 7 (25:33):
How seeing people this is all for you?

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Oh so you're going to stand in front of the
United States Congress and you're going to pound an empty
food container with a spoon and bang on it. What
trying to prove that what's going on that? You know?
It's not it's it's not the Israelis, it's not the Americans.

(26:03):
It's the United Nations and their relationship with a moss,
which is keeping that aid from getting into Gaza. But
a United States congresswoman doesn't have the brains nor the
objectivity to look into it and see just exactly how

(26:23):
corrupt the United Nations Relief Agency is. You know, do
you know that the head of the union for the
some thirty thousand employees throughout the Middle East that work
for the United Nations Relief Agency UNDRA. Do you know
that the former head of that union he's now been

(26:44):
dispensed with, was a member of a moss Yes, let's
go back to politicians in the in the United States
with Somalian backgrounds. Somali is probably the most corrupt nation
on the earth and features a level of IQ that

(27:08):
is probably at the level of some sort of form
of mental retardation. How can we make it a better country? Well?
As main representative and mayor of South Portland, thelock demands
in the video above is a mystery. I can't quite
figure it out. This is on Good Morning America policies.

Speaker 7 (27:27):
How can the politics in Somalia can be you know,
resonate what we have here in the United States, the
democracy that we have. How can you help us, you know,
be a better country and build back what we used
to have back in a long time ago. So hopefully
we will be able to help our country, our former country, Somalia.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
And what why don't you do this? Why don't you
go back home and help your country? And I'm not
being facetious, I'm being absolutely serious. If if you think
that your crabhole country is so bad and you know,
suffering so badly, I'm not quite sure what you can
do as the mayor of south Portland, or that you

(28:10):
can do as a state representative even Maine. Now, as
a member of Congress, you can obviously use something like
USAID to funnel a bunch of taxpayer money into your
corrupt friends in Somalia. But oh, Donald Trump got elected
and stopped that. Yes, I really despise these people. I mean,
I hate to admit it, but I truly do. It's

(28:32):
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(28:53):
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(29:14):
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iHeartMedia app. So let's go to Nigel Farage because he
points out why we face serious societal decline in the
United Kingdom. And I think it's important because you can

(29:37):
take the examples that he uses and PLoP them right
over here in the United States, and then any anybody,
any politician that had the cajones that Nigel Farage does,
could sit down and say the same thing and it
would apply to this country.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
One of the things I think that sort of really
led to deterioration of trust in politics. Our successive Home
Secretary is telling us.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Crime is falling.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
You hear it, every year, crime is falling, so please
don't worry your poor little heads. Well, that's because the
crime survey for England and Wales is based on completely
false data. If you look at police recorded crime, which
is what we've done for our research all through this,
you can see that actually there are some significant rises

(30:27):
in crimes of all kinds, particularly crimes against the person.
We're actually facing in many parts of our country nothing
short of societal collapse, as people are scared to go
out of the shops, scared to let their kids out.
That is a society that is degrading, and it's happening very,

(30:50):
very rapidly. I'm astonished that there has been so little
debate in Westminster amongst our political classes on this issue,
because I'm sure they must in their MPs inboxes get
members of the public telling them just how grim things
really are. Sarah mentioned the word respect, respect for those

(31:12):
in uniform has declined massively. The criminals don't particularly respect
the police and can act in many cases with total impunity.
Just as worrying, if not more so, is huge numbers
of law abiding, tax paying Britons have also lost respect
for the police, but in a different way. The idea,

(31:35):
the concept that we're living in a system of two
tier policing and two tier justice under two tier care
has really taken hold.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
It really has in the United Kingdom, and the same
thing is happening in this country. We just don't want
to admit that it's happening in this country. You know,
in Denver, the big story this we did Denver, which
is the home base by which I do this. The
big story was, well, crime in Colorado is decreasing. Well, yes,
if you manipulate the numbers, you can show a decreasing crime.

(32:09):
But then when you start looking in pockets of the
metropolitan area Denver itself, well there's actually an increasing crime.
You know. I follow an account on x called do
Better Denver and do Better Denver is a I think
it's run by one person, but I think they have
a really good network of people that capture criminal acts, homelessness,

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drug ease, drug transactions, gang activity, everything you can possibly
a manage imagine. And they get little snippets of video
of these activities going on and they post it online. Well,
the response from the Denver Police Department, rather than saying
thank you and we're going to respond to these things,
it was like, you know, in essence kind of how

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do we shut you up? Because you're exposing the truth. Well,
that's the exact opposite of what government should be doing.
You know, whether you think you know. I had some
friends recently went San Francisco and they told me that,
you know, San Francisco, Yes, if you if you can,
you can still find the poop and streets and the needles.

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You can still find these pockets of everything. But you know,
generally speaking, it's not quite as bad as everybody points
it out to be. And I said, but in those
areas where you did find it, how bad was and
the oh, it was really bad. In those areas where
it exists, it really is bad. Well you know what
that is. That's a seed. That's the seed that's left untreated,

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and it will grow. It will It's a weed seeds,
it's not like a tomato or something. It's going to
grow and it's going to be weed. It's going to
infect other places. It will grow and it will spread.
And that's what's happening all across the country is you know,
it's the broken windows theory. We're not taking care of
the little things. We're not taking care of the things

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that obvious, and then we wonder why eventually he gets
out of control.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Justice now in terms of policy proposals. Yep, I'm going
to reiterate the point zero tolerance policing. Every single shoplifting offense,
however small, should be prosecuted. Every single mobile phone that
is stolen. If we can track it, we need to
go to the addresses and find out who these people are.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
You the policy is in Colorado. Your car gets stolen, Yeah,
we're not going to do anything. Well, I know where
it is. Look, I've got it's on my GPS. I
can show you exactly where it is right now on
my phone. Okay, well, then go get it. Uh, you know,
foul report, tell your insurance company. We're not going to
take the time to go do that, which is why

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Colorado has one of the highest auto thefts in the country,
because the cops won't do anything. When you won't do anything,
you're encouraging that behavior. You don't have to be a
parent to understand that. When your kids break the rules
and there are no consequences, the kids soon learn that

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they can break the rules, and pretty soon they've broken Oh,
they've broken the rule of putting the hand in the
cookie jar, And the next thing you know, they're breaking windows,
they're vandalizing things, well, you steal cars, what are you
doing next? Arm robbery? The fact that the cops won't
do anything shows you that that is the beginning of

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societal decline.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Stop and search.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Stop and search in areas where knife crime is prevalent
will go on up until a saturation point until we
drive knives off the street. And believe me, this is
a policy that I know from my campaigning recently around
the country, supported by people right across the political spectrum.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
And I find that one funny because they got rid
of guns and now they got a knife problem. Now
I don't agree with the stop and search policies. I
think that's a blatant violation of the Fourth Amendment. But
this is the United Kingdom. But his overall point is correct.
Unless you start enforcing the law, that broken window will

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turn into a vandalized building, and that will eventually turn
into a homeless encampment, and that will turn into a
death trap.