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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Screw you, mister Redbeard, if in fact that is your
real name. You started something as a joke because you
think you're so funny. Now, whenever I hear ladies and gentlemen,
Evis has left the building. In my head, I hear
a beep, kind of like a smoke detector with a
low battery.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Thanks for nothing, I assure you, I have no idea
what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I don't get the I think corporate's doing something. That
is all I can imagine.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I mean, our building is always under construction, so I
don't know if you're hearing something in the background that
we have.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I know I actually had to share the men's room
with people from the third floor. Oh, those weirdos. I
was just like, ugh, I almost just, you know, decided
to go outside and pee off the balcony.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
But I'm sure they were thinking the same thing. We
got to go to the fourth floor where those weirdos are.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Right, were those conservative nut jobs? Are we we gotta
go up there? What are we going to do when
they start remodel? Of course, by the time they get
to the fourth fourth floor bathroom remodels, you I'll both
be dead of old age.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
You probably yeah, and I.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Noticed too that the digital clock is still not working.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Right For those who don't know, we put up a
clock to cover a hole in the wall, a picture
of a clock, yes, and uh label to cutter. You know,
it's just say because the newsrooms have all different types
of clocks, so all different clocks set to all different
times around the world. So we were being clever and
put one a cutter because that was the big topic
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of the day at the time. So we put a
photo or a photo of a clock covering a hole
in the wall. So if somebody had taken down our
photo of a clock and put up one of the
digital clocks that we use in every one of our studios.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
But it's not working. It's not on and it's been
it's been two weeks now, hasn't Yeah. Yeah. And we
also have.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Four or five for brand new TV screens, four monitors,
that's right, the plastic you know, maybe if I pulled
on the plastic, the plastic off the screen, they would
turn them on.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
And by the way, how many what what are they
gonna do? Are they gonna let's see ABC, NBC, CBS,
msnb CNN, Fox, Fox Business, CNBC News Nation which I
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think is gonna be on tonight News Nation one, American
News Newsmax. I'm up to eleven or twelve. We got
more TVs to put up.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Well, the theory is they're going to put some underneath
that digital clock that they just installed. It's not working,
so there should be a few more popping up on
that wall as well.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I have a hard enough time with time, you know.
I tend to conflate time. Oh it happened yesterday. I
thought it was two weeks ago. Oh it happened five
years ago. I thought it happened yesterday. I this even
makes it, makes it even worse, Yeah, makes it even worse.
So Dragon Left. This is from Visualcapitalists dot com the
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world's most common passwords. I don't know whether there were
two things that struck me about this story when I
glanced through it. One is how stupid people are, and
number nineteen really threw me off. The number one password
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used more than three million times is one, two, three, four,
five six.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Damn, I better change my password.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
What is your password?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
It is none of your business.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I had to change my iHeart password. Who I didn't
have to, but I got to notice, Hey, your password
is expiring. In fourteen. God did they make it any
more difficult to change your password?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
And can't be the same. But you know a secret?
Can I tell this secret? Yes you can because you
have to have a number, and you have to have
a special character, and you also have to have capitals. So,
because I'm terrible memory remembering anything, I just changed the number.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I was as you were telling that, I was thinking, well,
just always like you could put exclamation point one time
at the end, then the acent, then the number sign,
than the dollar sign, and then the the up arrow,
then the at sign, the asterisks, the or open, prim closed,
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prin a plus a minus, yeah, brackets you get. Yeah,
you just do those in order and just keep circulating
through those.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I do the number instead.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah. I use a password manager, so it's a compliment
if I if anybody ever hacks my password manager and
steals passwords.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
What's the password to your password manager?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
One? Two, three, four five, No, it's number nineteen, which
is used one hundred and forty four thousand, six hundred
and seventy times.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Did you look oh of course, oh hey, would you
look at that?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Just pulled up the story. I don't read the stories.
I just read the headline and go, oh, this would
be funny for Michael and set it down. But sure enough,
as I I will post it to Michael, says, go
here dot com to see if you've got any one
of these passwords.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Number nineteen dragon.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Why the hell would anybody? I mean what, I'm being serious,
not because I'm making fun of you. Because I am
making fun of you, but that's just a given. Why
would you like? What's like? I get? I love you?
Quirty password password?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
That's a monkey is the other one?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, monkey, which is slightly fewer than dragon, So you're
just slightly better than a monkey. Well you know, Cal darisays,
you guys are just button monkeys anyway, So you know
you're or number twenty four zero zero zero zero zero
zero zero zero Chimney Christmas people one one one used
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almost half a million times. How do they know how
many times they are you used? That's kind of something
I'd like to know. I'd like to know that. Let's
see where it was I what was I gonna do here? Oh,
let's talk for a moment about I mentioned how the
left is so staunchly anti Semitic. Well, they're not only
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anti Semitic, they're anti American. So over on MSNBC, of
course we get this little diddy from Elie missed.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
And I don't say this lightly, but our country needs
to be sanctioned. We we are the bad guys on
the world stage. We are a menace to not only
free people everywhere, but the We are a men.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Just pause a moment, lets you absorb it. Our country
is the bad guy in the world stage. We need
to be sanctioned. Uh, let's assume for a moment that
we need to be sanctioned. Who would sanction this? The
United Nations, China, Russia, Pakistan, Who's who's gonna Who's gonna
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do that?
Speaker 6 (07:38):
And I don't say this lightly, but our country needs
to be sanctioned. We we are the bad guys on
the world stage. We are a menace to not only
free people everywhere, but the We are a menace to
peaceful people everywhere at.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Didn't why do they all want to come here? Why? Why?
Why does everybody want to come to the United States
of America. I don't Maybe there are, but I don't
read about it. I don't find it in the news anywhere.
I don't find it in my show prep that people
are trying to escape to Russia. People are trying to
escape to Yemen, They're trying to escape to China. What
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North Korea, They're trying to escape to North Koreas. In fact,
there was a story in the news just the other day.
You didn't go to the DMZ, right, No, somebody made
it across sprinting across the DMZ. Good for them.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I don't know whether it's at the tourist spot, you know,
at that part or some other along the was the
thirty eighth parallel, I forget, but somebody made it just
running across to the south, not to the north. Oh oh,
I know that shocks you.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
And I'm not even gonna say that We've only been
a menace for the past three or four months, right, Like,
when when does the international community decide that enough is enough?
I know we're rich. I know we've got a lot
of money. I know that people want to buy things
from our country because we're rich, or what to sell
things our country because we're rich. But at some point
the international community has to stand up to us because
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we are a bad guy on the world stage, right,
and so we should be sanctioned, we should be sanctioned
and rebukes.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Sanctioned and rebuked. I find that fascinating that he thinks
we should be sanctioned and rebuked. Well, I think it's
an indication of just how bad the country is going.
I know people sometimes think that I am too focused
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on Mandami, the Democrat nominee for mayor of New York City.
But New York City is the financial capital of the world.
It's the center of the financial universe. It's America's largest city.
It has a history, a storied history. It's Gotham, for
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peace's sake, talk about Batman's Gotham. But everybody keeps telling
me that Mandami is not a communist. Well, Michael's just
a socialist. Well there's a big difference really here he
is so best of luck.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
New York City purpose is about this entire project. It's
not simply to raise class consciousness, but to win socialism,
and obviously raising class consciousness is a critical part of that.
But making sure that we have candidates that both understand
that and are willing to put that forward at every
which moment that they have, at every which opportunity that
they're given. We have to continue to elect more socialists
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and we have to ensure that we are unapologetic about
our socialism. There are also other issues that we firmly
believe in, whether it's BDS right or whether it's the
end goal of season the means of production, where we
do not have the same level of support at this
very moment. And what I want to say is that
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it is critical the way that we organize, the way
that we set up our you know, set up our
work and our priorities, that we do not leave any
one issue for the other, that we do not meet
a moment and only look at what people are ready for,
but that we are doing both of these things in tandem,
because it is critical for us to both leave people
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where they're at and to also organize for what is
correct and for what is right, and to ensure that
over time we can bring people to that issue. The
ramifications of victory here is the difference between life and
death for so many of our brothers, sisters and family
beyond the binary across the Borough of Queens, it's the
difference between having cash bail. Anymore about it's the difference
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between having sex where it be decriminalized, and with every
battle that we fight as socialists we need to remember
what the stakes are and ground ourselves in them and
why the stakes are important and critical to us.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Did you catch the one phrase that he seemed to
kind of gloss.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Over not have the same level of support at this
very moment? And what I want to say is that
it is critical the way that we organize, the way
that we set up our you know, set up our
work and our priorities, that we do not leave any
one issue for the other, that we do not meet
a moment and only look at what people are ready for,
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but that we are doing both of these things in tandem.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Because hmm, what does he want to do in tandem?
Speaker 5 (12:39):
There are also other issues that we firmly believe in,
whether it's BDS right or whether it's the end goal
of season the means.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Of production, the end goal of seizing the means of production?
Do you I legitimate question, You don't have to answer
out loud or publicly, but do you know the origin
of the phrase seizing the means of production? All right? Well,
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let me tell you. It originates from Marxist theory, specifically
from the works of Carl Marx and Frederick Ingles in
the nineteenth century. It is very closely associated with their
critique of capitalism and their vision for a socialist revolution.
The means of production refers to the resources and the
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tools that are used to produce goods and services. But
what would those be, Well, those would be things like factories, machinery, land,
raw materials. So they went to the government. They want
the government to seize the means of production. They want
the government to seize the factories, the machinery, the private property,
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the raw materials that someone goes out and Lisa's land
for to mine or buys, the land that belongs to
a publicly or privately held corporation. The concept appears very
specifically in Marxian ingles writings, in particular in the Communist
Manifesto from eighteen forty eight. That's where Marx and Ingles
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argue that the proletariat, the working class, the yaho's like him.
I have no problem with the working class. I have
problems with the yah who's like him. Must overthrow the bourgeois,
the capitalist class, because that's how they take control of
the means of production. So what's the practical effect of that.
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The seizure would end private ownership of those resources, those factories,
that machinery, the land, the raw materials, which Marxists believe
having that in private ownership enables exploitation. And instead the Marxists,
the Mandamis of the world, who are actually about maybe
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about to become the mayor of the world's financial center,
wants to place them under collective or communal control in
order to create a classless, socialist, communist society. Now, while
the exact phrase seizing the means of production does not
appear verbatim in the Communist Manifesto, it encapsulates the revolutionary
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call for workers to take control of the productive forces
outlined and passages like this the proletariat. This is from
the Communist Manifesto. The proletariat will use its political supremacy
to rest by degree all capital from the bourgeois, to
centralize all instruments of production in the hands of the state. Oh,
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seize the means of productive Now that phrase gain traction
in later socialists and communist movements, becoming a shorthand just
to you know, seize the means of production for revolutionary
action to dismantled capitalist structures. And now it's being used
in political discourse, it's used in academic discussions, and it's
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even becoming popular in our well, it's redundant. It's becoming
a favorite in our popular culture to describe efforts to
simply redistribute economic power, redistribution of wealth. This is socialism,
and this is communism, and this is being advocated. I mean,
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how do you think the guy won. This is a
guy that should have been even in ranked choice voting,
should have been at the very bottom of the heap
and instead, because in my opinion, ranked choice voting is
simply collective as voting. You know what I'm We're going
to share our votes with everybody else, and you know
we're going to put it all together, and who comes
out on top. It's a bunch of bull crap. This
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is the guy running to be mayor of New York
City and he's saying the quiet part out loud. Man.
The country's got to wake up to this. We cannot
allow this to happen. We won't have it. We won't
make it another two hundred and fifty years. Hell's bells,
we won't make another ten years with this kind of
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stuff taking home.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Okay, let's see capital l ov E capital d R
A g O N, the number four then e v
R I'm in, got Michael Brown's password protector, I got.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Loved and then what dragon forever?
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Love Dragon forever? How they I can't believe they guessed it.
Now it's all I have to just well, I can
just change his.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Student who knew that you and missus Edward had the
same passwords.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
I'll just change my mind to despise and hate right
that beard forever. So back back to our little socialist
communist running for mayor what. It's not just him, you
can find it everywhere, people calling for redistribution of wealth,
seizing the means of production, all all of these economic
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policies that are just well, they're based in envy, entitlement,
and willful ignorance. And I think that's what's I mean.
They're useful. They are I probably use it too much,
but they are useful idiots in that regard. And they
think that because no one's ever done it correctly, that
now they are the ones that will do it correctly.
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The envy is more than just wondering what somebody else has.
It's actually that you don't believe that they deserve it,
that you deserve it instead. That's a poisonous attitude that
envy and that with that definition is going to cloud
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your judgment and it's going to distort your perspective. So
envy at the root of that definition of envy is
that everything economically is a zero sum game that if
I win, you lose. If I get a raise. If
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I get a raise, that means that dragon cannot get
a raise. It means that if I work hard and
make one thousand dollars, you can't possibly make one thousand
dollars because I've already taken that thousand dollars. But my
success does not diminish your success. So envy blinds us
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to the reality that it is not a zero sum game.
Envy makes us believe that the economic pie is a
twelve inch pizza and that's it. You can't no more,
no less. And if if I take three pieces out
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of a twelve inch piece, that'd that'd be pretty good
for me. I'll take three pieces. Then there's only you
know how many lefts six pieces left maybe, and that's it.
And once it's gone, it's gone. No, we just make
more pizza. This whole thing about capitalism. So if I
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can sell a pizza, and you know, I might run
out of pizzas because I didn't plan enough. But now
that I've got so many people demanding my pizzas, I
can take that profit and invest it in more raw
materials and you know, maybe another oven, and I can
make more pizzas and then I can go advertise them
on radio. I can sell a bazillion pizzas, and then
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everybody can have pizza. And then somebody will see my
success and try to replicate it, and then they're gonna
go sell pizzas, and now I got to compete with them.
This is why growth is so important. But I think
the other more in real I think they're all insidious
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in the entitlement and wilful ignorance. But I think entitlement
is really insidious. Entitlement thrives on this refusal to question ourselves.
It's a voice in our head that says, I don't
need to change the world. The world needs to change
for me. It's narcissistic, it's all self centered. And that
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kind of attitude breeds resentment and stagnation because entitlement convinces
us that somehow we're above accountability, that we're above growth.
And then when entitlement gets coupled with envy that becomes toxic.
We start to believe that other successes are injustices and
that their wins are our losses. The thing that holds
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all of that together, though, is the wilful ignorance. Wilful
ignorance is the easy way out. It's the decision to
you know. And sometimes when I'm doing all particularly when
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i'm doing the Michael Brown minute for over on Freedom,
I'll do what Dragon does. I'll look at the headline.
I'll scroll past the headline. I'll scroll past the article because, eh,
when I skin the article, it's just too complex, because
I've got to I mean to give you the nitty
gritty of it. I've got to narrow an article down
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into a pithy sixty second blurb which, with the intro
and the outro, gives me one hundred and seventy one words.
So every day I'm shooting for exactly one hundred and
seventy one words, give or take a couple of you know,
one hundred and sixty eight words, or if I go
over by three or four words, Dragon might be able
to cut out some breaths and get it down to
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sixty seconds. But willful ignorance is, in essence, the decision
to not dig into an article or into a position
that challenges our pre existing worldview. It causes us to
tune out that which makes us uncomfortable, the refusal to ask, well,
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why do I not know? What am I missing? Is
there is there some validity to that point of view?
And I think that's everywhere, And you know what, do
you know where? I think it begins the failure to
teach kids to think for themselves, the failure the failure
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to teach you. There's a big debate going on in
I think it's Douglas County again. Skimming stories yesterday about
the history curriculum. I read through it and I thought, well, well,
I can't make a judgment about one history book versus
another without actually seeing the book. I'm only able to
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read what I forget, whether it's in chalk Beat or
wherever it was I was reading the story. I can't
make a judgment about the story itself without reading the text.
But what I took away from the story was that
many parents are objecting to the new curriculum that they're
trying to because it just well, it uses George Floyd,
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uses black Lives Matter, and some others, and based on
the quotes in the story, there's no critical analysis about
George Floyd, just that George Floyd was killed by cops
and ended up in jail, and the cops ended up
in jail, and that killing resulted in riots. Well, one,
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I don't think that's accurate, and two, that doesn't require
any critical thinking whatsoever. So if you're a rug rat
and you're a history class and you have a boring
history teacher, and you just you read, oh, George Floyd
was a black man that was wrongfully killed by cops
and the cops ended up in jail and then people
had riots. Do they have riots because of what? And
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was was he really killed by the cops? Were there
any other extenuating circumstances? What were the riot it's like?
Were they mostly peaceful? As it may go on to say,
I don't know, because I haven't seen it. We don't
want to even challenge ourselves. We don't even want to
challenge the way that we think. It's why anytime any
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of you send me a text message or an email
that says, here, look at this story, I mean, I'll
look at the story. And if it's in opposite of
what I believe. I'll really analyze the story. Sometimes I'll
get a story and I'll look at it and go,
I can't possibly be true. So before I finish the story,
I'll start going out to search to see whether this
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is true or not. And unfortunately, oftentimes some of you
will send me stories that are just blatantly false. But
that's an indication to me that you are being wilfully ignorant.
I don't think all of you, but you know, in
an audience of twelve, there will be one or two
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occasionally that we'll get something wrong. But I think that
attitude about it's just easy to scroll through and just
it's why does Dragon do these stories that he puts
over here on the desk, Because he knows there will
be times and I'll just be sick. I'll be sick
and tired of what I'm talking about, and I'll need
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some filler, something to laugh about for a moment, like
the stupid passwords. So what does Dragon do? He only
looks at the headline. He had no idea on the
password on the password story that his name was one
of the commonly used passwords until he looked it up
and went, oh, shazam, not criticizing dragon, because that's the
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purpose is not to read the story, is to find
a stupid headline and then for me to make out
of the story what I will You know, That's also
why we cling to stereotypes, because the stereotype is easier
than the reality. All whites are not gay or straight,
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or Republican or Democrat or whatever, any more than all
blacks are Democrat and liberal, and you know, are all
LGBTQ plus ia whatever the X y Z. Stereotypes are
just an easy way to avoid reality. That reality is
incredibly nuanced. Willful ignorance is going to keep us stuck
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because you cannot fix what you will not see. So
why does all that matter in relationship to the mandami
or the other yahoo about We're a horrible country, we
ought to be sanctioned, We're the bad people in the world.
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It's important because we have the ability to break that cycle,
the courage to look in the mirror and ask, where
am I envious? Where do I feel entitled? Where am
I choosing ignorance? I don't have all the answers. It's
when someone corrects me. There's a little stem oh dang,
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and I got that wrong. But I have to admit
that I was wrong. And although it doesn't happen very often,
so I don't get that much practice. But really, when
you find out that you're wrong about something, it sticks
with you. I'd much rather find out that I was
wrong on my own than have somebody pointed out clearly
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because you know why, well, one because I'm that egotistical,
and two because that means that I'm actually out there
trying to critically think about things. So if envy, if
envy and willful ignorance and entitlement all combined together to
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create the useful idiots that we hear talking about seizing
the means of production, it's incumbent upon us to recognize
in ourselves and in our own party, in our own politics,
in our own communities, in our own sphere of influence, that, oh,
let's learn to be a little nuanced. Let's learn to
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recognize those barriers to critical thinking.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Michael, does balls out bowling require you to wear bowling shoes?
And if you do, but then are you really considered
nude since you got shoes on?
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I mean that is article of clothing, right. The fact
that something we talked about yesterday ends up on the
talk back today about balls out bowling is sad that.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
It raises a good question though, If you're wearing like
a watch or a necklace or earrings.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Are you totally naked or not? I think naked is naked.
You can't have anything on.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
So no earrings, no glasses, no watch, no necklaces.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
No clothing. Okay, so I think you could have ear
rings on. You could have your eyeglasses on, but you
couldn't have a hat on. You couldn't have gloves on.
You didn't have a shirt, no socks, no shoes, no underwear.
So you could because look, if you're gonna bowl, if
you're gonna bowl balls out, I want to be able
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to wear my glasses to make sure I don't trip
and fall.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
But you have to wear those bowling shoes because you
get too close to the actual lane. It's all waxy,
so you're gonna fall all over the place.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Well that's why you're gonna have to learn. You're gonna
have to adjust your bowling style in order to bowl barefooted.
I you know, I hadn't thought about that, but no, Besides,
bowling shoes are the nastiest thing in the world. But no,
I think if you're gonna balls out bowling, request that
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there's nothing. There's nothing on other than you know you
got you got a little pendent in your ear lobe. Okay,
that's fine. You wear glasses, that's fine, but you can't
wear anything else. You get your you got a ring
or a wedding band on, you can do that. Ball
I can't believe we're spring. I was going to talk
about there are Democrats out there claiming that they if
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they really want to resist Trump, they need to get
themselves shot. They can't just go up to the ice
detention centers and get into a fistfight. They need to
get shot. That's what I was going to talk about. No,
but instead what we'll be doing. I think I forgot
I plugged back in my computer. But no, we're not
doing that. We're killing the entire segment talking about.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Balls out bowling, giving the googers what they wanted. That's
just what they asked, So we got to give an answer.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
We are full service program.
Screw you, mister Redbeard, if in fact that is your
real name. You started something as a joke because you
think you're so funny. Now, whenever I hear ladies and gentlemen,
Evis has left the building. In my head, I hear
a beep, kind of like a smoke detector with a
low battery.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Thanks for nothing, I assure you, I have no idea
what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I don't get the I think corporate's doing something. That
is all I can imagine.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I mean, our building is always under construction, so I
don't know if you're hearing something in the background that
we have.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I know I actually had to share the men's room
with people from the third floor. Oh, those weirdos. I
was just like, ugh, I almost just, you know, decided
to go outside and pee off the balcony.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
But I'm sure they were thinking the same thing. We
got to go to the fourth floor where those weirdos are.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Right, were those conservative nut jobs? Are we we gotta
go up there? What are we going to do when
they start remodel? Of course, by the time they get
to the fourth fourth floor bathroom remodels, you I'll both
be dead of old age.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
You probably yeah, and I.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Noticed too that the digital clock is still not working.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Right For those who don't know, we put up a
clock to cover a hole in the wall, a picture
of a clock, yes, and uh label to cutter. You know,
it's just say because the newsrooms have all different types
of clocks, so all different clocks set to all different
times around the world. So we were being clever and
put one a cutter because that was the big topic
(01:43):
of the day at the time. So we put a
photo or a photo of a clock covering a hole
in the wall. So if somebody had taken down our
photo of a clock and put up one of the
digital clocks that we use in every one of our studios.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
But it's not working. It's not on and it's been
it's been two weeks now, hasn't Yeah. Yeah. And we
also have.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Four or five for brand new TV screens, four monitors,
that's right, the plastic you know, maybe if I pulled
on the plastic, the plastic off the screen, they would
turn them on.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
And by the way, how many what what are they
gonna do? Are they gonna let's see ABC, NBC, CBS,
msnb CNN, Fox, Fox Business, CNBC News Nation which I
(02:38):
think is gonna be on tonight News Nation one, American
News Newsmax. I'm up to eleven or twelve. We got
more TVs to put up.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Well, the theory is they're going to put some underneath
that digital clock that they just installed. It's not working,
so there should be a few more popping up on
that wall as well.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I have a hard enough time with time, you know.
I tend to conflate time. Oh it happened yesterday. I
thought it was two weeks ago. Oh it happened five
years ago. I thought it happened yesterday. I this even
makes it, makes it even worse, Yeah, makes it even worse.
So Dragon Left. This is from Visualcapitalists dot com the
(03:19):
world's most common passwords. I don't know whether there were
two things that struck me about this story when I
glanced through it. One is how stupid people are, and
number nineteen really threw me off. The number one password
(03:43):
used more than three million times is one, two, three, four,
five six.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Damn, I better change my password.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
What is your password?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
It is none of your business.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I had to change my iHeart password. Who I didn't
have to, but I got to notice, Hey, your password
is expiring. In fourteen. God did they make it any
more difficult to change your password?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
And can't be the same. But you know a secret?
Can I tell this secret? Yes you can because you
have to have a number, and you have to have
a special character, and you also have to have capitals. So,
because I'm terrible memory remembering anything, I just changed the number.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I was as you were telling that, I was thinking, well,
just always like you could put exclamation point one time
at the end, then the acent, then the number sign,
than the dollar sign, and then the the up arrow,
then the at sign, the asterisks, the or open, prim closed,
(04:49):
prin a plus a minus, yeah, brackets you get. Yeah,
you just do those in order and just keep circulating
through those.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I do the number instead.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah. I use a password manager, so it's a compliment
if I if anybody ever hacks my password manager and
steals passwords.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
What's the password to your password manager?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
One? Two, three, four five, No, it's number nineteen, which
is used one hundred and forty four thousand, six hundred
and seventy times.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Did you look oh of course, oh hey, would you
look at that?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Just pulled up the story. I don't read the stories.
I just read the headline and go, oh, this would
be funny for Michael and set it down. But sure enough,
as I I will post it to Michael, says, go
here dot com to see if you've got any one
of these passwords.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Number nineteen dragon.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Why the hell would anybody? I mean what, I'm being serious,
not because I'm making fun of you. Because I am
making fun of you, but that's just a given. Why
would you like? What's like? I get? I love you?
Quirty password password?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
That's a monkey is the other one?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, monkey, which is slightly fewer than dragon, So you're
just slightly better than a monkey. Well you know, Cal darisays,
you guys are just button monkeys anyway, So you know
you're or number twenty four zero zero zero zero zero
zero zero zero Chimney Christmas people one one one used
(06:26):
almost half a million times. How do they know how
many times they are you used? That's kind of something
I'd like to know. I'd like to know that. Let's
see where it was I what was I gonna do here? Oh,
let's talk for a moment about I mentioned how the
left is so staunchly anti Semitic. Well, they're not only
(06:49):
anti Semitic, they're anti American. So over on MSNBC, of
course we get this little diddy from Elie missed.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
And I don't say this lightly, but our country needs
to be sanctioned. We we are the bad guys on
the world stage. We are a menace to not only
free people everywhere, but the We are a men.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Just pause a moment, lets you absorb it. Our country
is the bad guy in the world stage. We need
to be sanctioned. Uh, let's assume for a moment that
we need to be sanctioned. Who would sanction this? The
United Nations, China, Russia, Pakistan, Who's who's gonna Who's gonna
(07:37):
do that?
Speaker 6 (07:38):
And I don't say this lightly, but our country needs
to be sanctioned. We we are the bad guys on
the world stage. We are a menace to not only
free people everywhere, but the We are a menace to
peaceful people everywhere at.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Didn't why do they all want to come here? Why? Why?
Why does everybody want to come to the United States
of America. I don't Maybe there are, but I don't
read about it. I don't find it in the news anywhere.
I don't find it in my show prep that people
are trying to escape to Russia. People are trying to
escape to Yemen, They're trying to escape to China. What
(08:16):
North Korea, They're trying to escape to North Koreas. In fact,
there was a story in the news just the other day.
You didn't go to the DMZ, right, No, somebody made
it across sprinting across the DMZ. Good for them.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I don't know whether it's at the tourist spot, you know,
at that part or some other along the was the
thirty eighth parallel, I forget, but somebody made it just
running across to the south, not to the north. Oh oh,
I know that shocks you.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
And I'm not even gonna say that We've only been
a menace for the past three or four months, right, Like,
when when does the international community decide that enough is enough?
I know we're rich. I know we've got a lot
of money. I know that people want to buy things
from our country because we're rich, or what to sell
things our country because we're rich. But at some point
the international community has to stand up to us because
(09:06):
we are a bad guy on the world stage, right,
and so we should be sanctioned, we should be sanctioned
and rebukes.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Sanctioned and rebuked. I find that fascinating that he thinks
we should be sanctioned and rebuked. Well, I think it's
an indication of just how bad the country is going.
I know people sometimes think that I am too focused
(09:39):
on Mandami, the Democrat nominee for mayor of New York City.
But New York City is the financial capital of the world.
It's the center of the financial universe. It's America's largest city.
It has a history, a storied history. It's Gotham, for
(09:59):
peace's sake, talk about Batman's Gotham. But everybody keeps telling
me that Mandami is not a communist. Well, Michael's just
a socialist. Well there's a big difference really here he
is so best of luck.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
New York City purpose is about this entire project. It's
not simply to raise class consciousness, but to win socialism,
and obviously raising class consciousness is a critical part of that.
But making sure that we have candidates that both understand
that and are willing to put that forward at every
which moment that they have, at every which opportunity that
they're given. We have to continue to elect more socialists
(10:42):
and we have to ensure that we are unapologetic about
our socialism. There are also other issues that we firmly
believe in, whether it's BDS right or whether it's the
end goal of season the means of production, where we
do not have the same level of support at this
very moment. And what I want to say is that
(11:03):
it is critical the way that we organize, the way
that we set up our you know, set up our
work and our priorities, that we do not leave any
one issue for the other, that we do not meet
a moment and only look at what people are ready for,
but that we are doing both of these things in tandem,
because it is critical for us to both leave people
(11:24):
where they're at and to also organize for what is
correct and for what is right, and to ensure that
over time we can bring people to that issue. The
ramifications of victory here is the difference between life and
death for so many of our brothers, sisters and family
beyond the binary across the Borough of Queens, it's the
difference between having cash bail. Anymore about it's the difference
(11:46):
between having sex where it be decriminalized, and with every
battle that we fight as socialists we need to remember
what the stakes are and ground ourselves in them and
why the stakes are important and critical to us.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Did you catch the one phrase that he seemed to
kind of gloss.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Over not have the same level of support at this
very moment? And what I want to say is that
it is critical the way that we organize, the way
that we set up our you know, set up our
work and our priorities, that we do not leave any
one issue for the other, that we do not meet
a moment and only look at what people are ready for,
(12:32):
but that we are doing both of these things in tandem.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Because hmm, what does he want to do in tandem?
Speaker 5 (12:39):
There are also other issues that we firmly believe in,
whether it's BDS right or whether it's the end goal
of season the means.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Of production, the end goal of seizing the means of production?
Do you I legitimate question, You don't have to answer
out loud or publicly, but do you know the origin
of the phrase seizing the means of production? All right? Well,
(13:10):
let me tell you. It originates from Marxist theory, specifically
from the works of Carl Marx and Frederick Ingles in
the nineteenth century. It is very closely associated with their
critique of capitalism and their vision for a socialist revolution.
The means of production refers to the resources and the
(13:34):
tools that are used to produce goods and services. But
what would those be, Well, those would be things like factories, machinery, land,
raw materials. So they went to the government. They want
the government to seize the means of production. They want
the government to seize the factories, the machinery, the private property,
(13:56):
the raw materials that someone goes out and Lisa's land
for to mine or buys, the land that belongs to
a publicly or privately held corporation. The concept appears very
specifically in Marxian ingles writings, in particular in the Communist
Manifesto from eighteen forty eight. That's where Marx and Ingles
(14:22):
argue that the proletariat, the working class, the yaho's like him.
I have no problem with the working class. I have
problems with the yah who's like him. Must overthrow the bourgeois,
the capitalist class, because that's how they take control of
the means of production. So what's the practical effect of that.
(14:45):
The seizure would end private ownership of those resources, those factories,
that machinery, the land, the raw materials, which Marxists believe
having that in private ownership enables exploitation. And instead the Marxists,
the Mandamis of the world, who are actually about maybe
(15:09):
about to become the mayor of the world's financial center,
wants to place them under collective or communal control in
order to create a classless, socialist, communist society. Now, while
the exact phrase seizing the means of production does not
appear verbatim in the Communist Manifesto, it encapsulates the revolutionary
(15:33):
call for workers to take control of the productive forces
outlined and passages like this the proletariat. This is from
the Communist Manifesto. The proletariat will use its political supremacy
to rest by degree all capital from the bourgeois, to
centralize all instruments of production in the hands of the state. Oh,
(15:58):
seize the means of productive Now that phrase gain traction
in later socialists and communist movements, becoming a shorthand just
to you know, seize the means of production for revolutionary
action to dismantled capitalist structures. And now it's being used
in political discourse, it's used in academic discussions, and it's
(16:23):
even becoming popular in our well, it's redundant. It's becoming
a favorite in our popular culture to describe efforts to
simply redistribute economic power, redistribution of wealth. This is socialism,
and this is communism, and this is being advocated. I mean,
(16:46):
how do you think the guy won. This is a
guy that should have been even in ranked choice voting,
should have been at the very bottom of the heap
and instead, because in my opinion, ranked choice voting is
simply collective as voting. You know what I'm We're going
to share our votes with everybody else, and you know
we're going to put it all together, and who comes
out on top. It's a bunch of bull crap. This
(17:10):
is the guy running to be mayor of New York
City and he's saying the quiet part out loud. Man.
The country's got to wake up to this. We cannot
allow this to happen. We won't have it. We won't
make it another two hundred and fifty years. Hell's bells,
we won't make another ten years with this kind of
(17:31):
stuff taking home.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Okay, let's see capital l ov E capital d R
A g O N, the number four then e v
R I'm in, got Michael Brown's password protector, I got.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Loved and then what dragon forever?
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Love Dragon forever? How they I can't believe they guessed it.
Now it's all I have to just well, I can
just change his.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Student who knew that you and missus Edward had the
same passwords.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
I'll just change my mind to despise and hate right
that beard forever. So back back to our little socialist
communist running for mayor what. It's not just him, you
can find it everywhere, people calling for redistribution of wealth,
seizing the means of production, all all of these economic
(18:42):
policies that are just well, they're based in envy, entitlement,
and willful ignorance. And I think that's what's I mean.
They're useful. They are I probably use it too much,
but they are useful idiots in that regard. And they
think that because no one's ever done it correctly, that
now they are the ones that will do it correctly.
(19:07):
The envy is more than just wondering what somebody else has.
It's actually that you don't believe that they deserve it,
that you deserve it instead. That's a poisonous attitude that
envy and that with that definition is going to cloud
(19:29):
your judgment and it's going to distort your perspective. So
envy at the root of that definition of envy is
that everything economically is a zero sum game that if
I win, you lose. If I get a raise. If
(19:49):
I get a raise, that means that dragon cannot get
a raise. It means that if I work hard and
make one thousand dollars, you can't possibly make one thousand
dollars because I've already taken that thousand dollars. But my
success does not diminish your success. So envy blinds us
(20:16):
to the reality that it is not a zero sum game.
Envy makes us believe that the economic pie is a
twelve inch pizza and that's it. You can't no more,
no less. And if if I take three pieces out
(20:36):
of a twelve inch piece, that'd that'd be pretty good
for me. I'll take three pieces. Then there's only you
know how many lefts six pieces left maybe, and that's it.
And once it's gone, it's gone. No, we just make
more pizza. This whole thing about capitalism. So if I
(20:57):
can sell a pizza, and you know, I might run
out of pizzas because I didn't plan enough. But now
that I've got so many people demanding my pizzas, I
can take that profit and invest it in more raw
materials and you know, maybe another oven, and I can
make more pizzas and then I can go advertise them
on radio. I can sell a bazillion pizzas, and then
(21:19):
everybody can have pizza. And then somebody will see my
success and try to replicate it, and then they're gonna
go sell pizzas, and now I got to compete with them.
This is why growth is so important. But I think
the other more in real I think they're all insidious
(21:39):
in the entitlement and wilful ignorance. But I think entitlement
is really insidious. Entitlement thrives on this refusal to question ourselves.
It's a voice in our head that says, I don't
need to change the world. The world needs to change
for me. It's narcissistic, it's all self centered. And that
(22:04):
kind of attitude breeds resentment and stagnation because entitlement convinces
us that somehow we're above accountability, that we're above growth.
And then when entitlement gets coupled with envy that becomes toxic.
We start to believe that other successes are injustices and
that their wins are our losses. The thing that holds
(22:30):
all of that together, though, is the wilful ignorance. Wilful
ignorance is the easy way out. It's the decision to
you know. And sometimes when I'm doing all particularly when
(22:51):
i'm doing the Michael Brown minute for over on Freedom,
I'll do what Dragon does. I'll look at the headline.
I'll scroll past the headline. I'll scroll past the article because, eh,
when I skin the article, it's just too complex, because
I've got to I mean to give you the nitty
gritty of it. I've got to narrow an article down
(23:12):
into a pithy sixty second blurb which, with the intro
and the outro, gives me one hundred and seventy one words.
So every day I'm shooting for exactly one hundred and
seventy one words, give or take a couple of you know,
one hundred and sixty eight words, or if I go
over by three or four words, Dragon might be able
to cut out some breaths and get it down to
(23:34):
sixty seconds. But willful ignorance is, in essence, the decision
to not dig into an article or into a position
that challenges our pre existing worldview. It causes us to
tune out that which makes us uncomfortable, the refusal to ask, well,
(23:58):
why do I not know? What am I missing? Is
there is there some validity to that point of view?
And I think that's everywhere, And you know what, do
you know where? I think it begins the failure to
teach kids to think for themselves, the failure the failure
(24:20):
to teach you. There's a big debate going on in
I think it's Douglas County again. Skimming stories yesterday about
the history curriculum. I read through it and I thought, well, well,
I can't make a judgment about one history book versus
another without actually seeing the book. I'm only able to
(24:41):
read what I forget, whether it's in chalk Beat or
wherever it was I was reading the story. I can't
make a judgment about the story itself without reading the text.
But what I took away from the story was that
many parents are objecting to the new curriculum that they're
trying to because it just well, it uses George Floyd,
(25:06):
uses black Lives Matter, and some others, and based on
the quotes in the story, there's no critical analysis about
George Floyd, just that George Floyd was killed by cops
and ended up in jail, and the cops ended up
in jail, and that killing resulted in riots. Well, one,
(25:28):
I don't think that's accurate, and two, that doesn't require
any critical thinking whatsoever. So if you're a rug rat
and you're a history class and you have a boring
history teacher, and you just you read, oh, George Floyd
was a black man that was wrongfully killed by cops
and the cops ended up in jail and then people
had riots. Do they have riots because of what? And
(25:53):
was was he really killed by the cops? Were there
any other extenuating circumstances? What were the riot it's like?
Were they mostly peaceful? As it may go on to say,
I don't know, because I haven't seen it. We don't
want to even challenge ourselves. We don't even want to
challenge the way that we think. It's why anytime any
(26:15):
of you send me a text message or an email
that says, here, look at this story, I mean, I'll
look at the story. And if it's in opposite of
what I believe. I'll really analyze the story. Sometimes I'll
get a story and I'll look at it and go,
I can't possibly be true. So before I finish the story,
I'll start going out to search to see whether this
(26:37):
is true or not. And unfortunately, oftentimes some of you
will send me stories that are just blatantly false. But
that's an indication to me that you are being wilfully ignorant.
I don't think all of you, but you know, in
an audience of twelve, there will be one or two
(26:58):
occasionally that we'll get something wrong. But I think that
attitude about it's just easy to scroll through and just
it's why does Dragon do these stories that he puts
over here on the desk, Because he knows there will
be times and I'll just be sick. I'll be sick
and tired of what I'm talking about, and I'll need
(27:18):
some filler, something to laugh about for a moment, like
the stupid passwords. So what does Dragon do? He only
looks at the headline. He had no idea on the
password on the password story that his name was one
of the commonly used passwords until he looked it up
and went, oh, shazam, not criticizing dragon, because that's the
(27:39):
purpose is not to read the story, is to find
a stupid headline and then for me to make out
of the story what I will You know, That's also
why we cling to stereotypes, because the stereotype is easier
than the reality. All whites are not gay or straight,
(28:01):
or Republican or Democrat or whatever, any more than all
blacks are Democrat and liberal, and you know, are all
LGBTQ plus ia whatever the X y Z. Stereotypes are
just an easy way to avoid reality. That reality is
incredibly nuanced. Willful ignorance is going to keep us stuck
(28:28):
because you cannot fix what you will not see. So
why does all that matter in relationship to the mandami
or the other yahoo about We're a horrible country, we
ought to be sanctioned, We're the bad people in the world.
(28:48):
It's important because we have the ability to break that cycle,
the courage to look in the mirror and ask, where
am I envious? Where do I feel entitled? Where am
I choosing ignorance? I don't have all the answers. It's
when someone corrects me. There's a little stem oh dang,
(29:11):
and I got that wrong. But I have to admit
that I was wrong. And although it doesn't happen very often,
so I don't get that much practice. But really, when
you find out that you're wrong about something, it sticks
with you. I'd much rather find out that I was
wrong on my own than have somebody pointed out clearly
(29:34):
because you know why, well, one because I'm that egotistical,
and two because that means that I'm actually out there
trying to critically think about things. So if envy, if
envy and willful ignorance and entitlement all combined together to
(29:56):
create the useful idiots that we hear talking about seizing
the means of production, it's incumbent upon us to recognize
in ourselves and in our own party, in our own politics,
in our own communities, in our own sphere of influence, that, oh,
let's learn to be a little nuanced. Let's learn to
(30:17):
recognize those barriers to critical thinking.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Michael, does balls out bowling require you to wear bowling shoes?
And if you do, but then are you really considered
nude since you got shoes on?
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I mean that is article of clothing, right. The fact
that something we talked about yesterday ends up on the
talk back today about balls out bowling is sad that.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
It raises a good question though, If you're wearing like
a watch or a necklace or earrings.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Are you totally naked or not? I think naked is naked.
You can't have anything on.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
So no earrings, no glasses, no watch, no necklaces.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
No clothing. Okay, so I think you could have ear
rings on. You could have your eyeglasses on, but you
couldn't have a hat on. You couldn't have gloves on.
You didn't have a shirt, no socks, no shoes, no underwear.
So you could because look, if you're gonna bowl, if
you're gonna bowl balls out, I want to be able
(31:27):
to wear my glasses to make sure I don't trip
and fall.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
But you have to wear those bowling shoes because you
get too close to the actual lane. It's all waxy,
so you're gonna fall all over the place.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Well that's why you're gonna have to learn. You're gonna
have to adjust your bowling style in order to bowl barefooted.
I you know, I hadn't thought about that, but no, Besides,
bowling shoes are the nastiest thing in the world. But no,
I think if you're gonna balls out bowling, request that
(32:00):
there's nothing. There's nothing on other than you know you
got you got a little pendent in your ear lobe. Okay,
that's fine. You wear glasses, that's fine, but you can't
wear anything else. You get your you got a ring
or a wedding band on, you can do that. Ball
I can't believe we're spring. I was going to talk
about there are Democrats out there claiming that they if
(32:24):
they really want to resist Trump, they need to get
themselves shot. They can't just go up to the ice
detention centers and get into a fistfight. They need to
get shot. That's what I was going to talk about. No,
but instead what we'll be doing. I think I forgot
I plugged back in my computer. But no, we're not
doing that. We're killing the entire segment talking about.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Balls out bowling, giving the googers what they wanted. That's
just what they asked, So we got to give an answer.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
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The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.