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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Michael.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Michael Hey then listened to your podcast lately quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
I wish I could say a good job, have a
good day.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
You know, bite my ass if you know what Dragon
and I have been doing this morning, and then you
drop that talk back. Bite my ass is probably the
kindest thing I could say to you right now, because
actually I'd like to just say something else, but no,
we won't do it this morning, or maybe we will.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I will say, you look much better than you did
twenty years ago.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
That's as far as I'll go now.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
And why do you say that you're thinner?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, you look you just you look good, You look
less stressed.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Hair's black, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
But I kind of expected the hair to gray a
little bit besides and stuff, And I don't care about that.
It really bugs me is the balding on the back.
I told my my barber one day, you know, because
how they put the mirror up. I said, don't ever
put that mirror. Don't do not ever put that mirror
up again.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
No, don't care about that.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah, I don't care about that. And I and you
know that's back there. I don't see it. As long
as I'm facing people, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
So you know, I had the same problem because when
we had my mother had the subways, we had a
security camera straight down Oh my gosh, oh, and I
was looking at them and I'm, you know, doing paperwork
and counting things, and I look at the camera and
sure enough, I can see that just bald spot getting.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Bigger and bigger and bigger. It's like, I don't, I don't.
I don't need to see this do anymore?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Now? Are you completely bald now? Or do you shave?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I've got the horseshoe, so I know, but but I mean,
do you but is.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
There some are sides in the back? Yeah? Yeah, that's
all I've got left. Remember this there.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You probably are old enough to remember it.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
There used to be something on television back in the
seventies where you could spray yeah. Ray, maybe I need
to find that stuff and spray that. But you know what, Dragon,
I'm gonna go ahead and tell people what we were
talking about.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
You look good.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
You look better today than you did twenty years ago.
For honest you know. I I know we joke a lot,
and I know we pick pick on each other quite
a bit.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
But.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
That guy was a fat guy and me being a
fat guy can say that.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yes, and but you now you're your much better health.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Well and uh in terms of energy, in terms of
vitality and just you know everything.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
But you do look weird without glasses back then, because
I'm just used to seeing you with glasses.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Oh I even think I myself, I look weird without glasses.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
You look better with glasses, yes, because there.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
When when I'm when I'm putts around the house, I
don't have glasses on and I happen to walk by
a mirror, I even I think, oh, that's yeah, put
those glasses back on. But when you first started wearing
you know, when you first start wearing glasses, that looks weird,
you know, and then and then suddenly that becomes the normal.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
So what were you.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Doing last night?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Missus?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Redbeard and I stumbled up on a net Geo documentary
last night.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
We were really few episodes.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Oh that's interesting because I know, well, I now know
something about it because when you know, I went to
New Mexico what a couple of weekends ago, and I
had seen a blurb somewhere because I still haven't set
up in Lexus and nexus that this may seem egotistical
to you. But I do it for a very specific
(03:39):
reason because I have to monitor what people say about
me in case somebody ever crosses the line and says
something that is utterly defamatory or libelous, threatening, yeah, or
threat or threatening, then I'm gonna take action. And so
I got a uh, you know pop up that Matt
(04:02):
Geo Natural National Geographic has put out a documentary.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And it's a it's a hurricane documentary. My wife loves
the weather documentaries and everything, so it's like, oh, well,
we'll check this one out.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah, so you so, so now you've had I think
there's five episodes, were three in okay, yeah, yeah, and
into three episodes now of a documentary about hurricane This
is about Hurricane Katrina.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I think it's named Katrina, the one that hit hit
New Orleans. Yeah, that one, yeah, that one. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
So it is out there in case you go watch
it and you're three episodes into it, so you're more
than halfway through it, and how many Uh, well, let's
back up.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
You've seen numerous.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Current interviews of people that were living then, Like, for example,
you won't see any current interviews of Governor Blanco because
she since passed away.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
But he's seen the general.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You saw General Honor.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Right, You've seen ray Egan, You've seen a staff and
the chief staff, woman, the woman, uh you've seen I
don't know, I just and accomplished. They all the police
chief so.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Looks better now than he did. Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
He's also like you lost some weight, right? Yeah? Yeah?
How did you like the current interviews with me? I'm
assuming they're coming later because all that I have seen
of you is archived footage.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Oh, I'm sure you.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
You've sat down with them and they're they're waiting for
that final episode to get your side of the story.
They're they're waiting for the final episode to get your
site right, right, Michael. So it's kind of like one
of those those mic drop situations where you know, because
they've all just got their side of the story where
they absolutely vilify you in that general he hates you.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
But so we're waiting. We're waiting patiently for year turn.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
If you were doing a air quote here documentary and
you were including people that were involved in that natural disaster,
and you interviewed those players, you would indeed think that
you would reach out to Michael Brown.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I would reach out to.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
If it were my documentar, i'd reach out to everybody
all the way up to President Bush. Yeah, and if
I know that, I probably couldn't get him, So I
wanted to get some kind of staffer at least that
was by his side right to get his perspective.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, we're still waiting. Like I said, it's probably gonna
be the last episode right now.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Let me just suggest that you not hold your breath.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I didn't even know that that GEO was doing a
documentary until I saw it advertised no email, no phone call,
no snail mail, no telegram, no smoke signal, no smoke signal,
carry your pigeon, no.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
No knock on the door, no lawyer, producer, director.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Pretty fair documentary and did not get one of the
major players that everybody seems to vilify and their their
thoughts behind it all.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
And the reason I know it's out now is because
I've been told to rotten Hell. I've been told that
clearly that that I hate black people. I'm I'm a
racist s ob, and that I mean every pejority you
can possibly imagine is now being lobbed in. And I
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would be lying to you if I told you that
it doesn't to a certain degree. Steam but I've also
like pretty much developed the attitude you know what f
you because you're watching a documentary that didn't have the
journalistic integrity to perhaps reach out and say, you know,
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we're gonna vilify you.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Would you like to say anything?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
And missus Raybeard is surprised too, because as we're watching it,
she's like, well, this guy's being interviewed, this guy's inter
being interviewed. When are they going to bring in Michael?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I just thought I told her. He hasn't said that
he's in it, so I don't know. Maybe this just
seems a little odd. And she's like, why wouldn't they what? No,
I mean, because she likes you. She's a bit upset
because they keep, you know, picking on you, and she's like,
(08:57):
why are they picking on him so much?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
He's not a bad guy.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I think the only thing that And I'll be.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Honest here, if they had reached out, I don't know
that I would participate. I probably would have, depending on
how much editorial control I would have had over Okay,
if you want, if you want me to sit down
for an hour, and you already know what your storyline is,
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and you're going to ask me questions, then I will
want a copy of that entire that raw footage, so
that whenever you finally produce your documentary, and if you
do as they have done, then I could pull out that, Oh,
you didn't include where I said this, You didn't include that.
(09:52):
You didn't include this. And the other thing that that
I find fascinating is they also quote emails that were written.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
About me, not from you and not from me stop,
and we're like, wait a minute, right, he didn't say that, right,
never said that.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
But they present the emails written by someone else unbeknownst
to me, as if I was the one that had
said what was in the email?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
How was the steak right?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I don't even think there now.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I don't know about today, but there was not a
ruth Chris steakhouse in Baton Rouge, Louisiana in two thousand
and five, or if there was, that's certainly not where
we went to.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
D I love how they implied that you went to
a ruthless steakhouse, right, I know, said where you went
or who you were with or what. But yeah, they
they were pretty upset with you for that.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Yeah, that press secretary about a day or two later,
I'd say, within twenty four hours of me finding out
she had written that email, fired her, fired her and
sent her back.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
To the strange hold that wasn't mentioned in the Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
I've fired her, sent her packing home. And that's when
I call Scooter Libby, Cheneg's chief of staff, who had
stolen my previous secretary away from me, and said, Scooter,
I really need Leanne back because I just fired my
press secretary and explained to him why. And Scooter was like,
(11:34):
oh my god, yes you can. We'll we will loan
you Leanne and you can have her back.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
And of course those who hate you probably still see
that as you know here she.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Is telling the truth and he fired her ass.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
By the way, so let me yes, as long as
we go to go to go down that rabbit hole.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Charel was a black woman too, Oh dear god.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
So I hired a black press secretary and fired a
black press secretary. So that GEO, what do you have
to say about that? What do you have to say
about it?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Which which I'm kind of glad that they didn't mention that,
because then well they clearly had stated before that Michael
Brown hates black people.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Right, yes, and Asians and Hispanics and Latinos and you know,
formally fat bald white guys.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
So there's that. I'm just full of hatred, full of hatred.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Well, I am full of hatred for the cabal because
they are despicable.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Organism and whatever they are, and.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Not seeing you in it. I did come in this
morning kind of curious as to if you were in it, and.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
I wait, wait, stop, stop women. So dragon Dragon comes
flying through the door, which is a heavy door to
fly through, you actually have to really push that door
to fly through it. And you came flying through that door.
You kind of leaned over the console here and kind
of hesitated, like I can't decide whether.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
To bring this up or ask you this, or.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
I can't decide whether to And of course then my
response is you know that you you present it that way,
then you have to bring it up, and you did.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I didn't want to piss you off. I didn't know
if you were having a good day, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I didn't want to, you know, and I didn't know
if you wanted to talk about it, because you haven't yet,
and I had no idea how long it had been
out and it's been out.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
At least two weeks. It's been at least two weeks.
And for those of you that follow me on x
you may have seen some of the comments. The most
recent one was just reading dragging. Some of the most
recent ones about you know, they hope that I rotten
hell and that you know I hate black people, and
oh the best one was one of the best ones.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I think.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
I I don't think. I don't think I've been hiding these.
I think I've been just letting them sit there, because again,
I really don't give a S wordy years ago, yeah,
I don't really give an S work. But some of
the best ones have been about how I don't like
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black people and they want me to rot in hell,
and then they will go on and just I mean nasty, nasty,
nasty stuff, and I'm just like, yeah, well, you don't
do anything but just watch TV and you think that
whatever the T feeds you is the truth.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
And so there you go.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I sure hope people that do watch that documentary sit
there and go, hmm, this is are they going to
get his opinion? How come he's not talking? I mean,
maybe they'll put something up in the end that says,
you know, we offered interview Michael By, but he don't.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
My god, I hope they do.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I hope they do, because if they do, and that's
when I'll issue a press statement that I was never contacted,
reached out anything by nat Gio, not at all. You know,
the really quick story about what's going on. So the
Times Picky You, which is the newspaper in Orleans Parish,
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New Orleans, they're doing a series of people that were
involved twenty years ago, and they sent me the first
three that they did to show me kind of what
they wanted to do. And all three of them are
in person, sit down interviews. So I looked at them
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and I said, I would be willing to do that
under the same conditions, right yeah, live in person, and
you know, I'll even pay my own way. I'll come
down to New Orlean. I'll fly down to Norms because
I could leave here one morning and do the interview
and be back, you know, by dinner time, be back.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
In the evening.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Once I put that requirement in, silence, silence went away
and I and I understand why they want me on
a zoom call because they won't. I mean, think about
how a live interview looks sitting across the table from
you know, the Eddie Compass, the police chief. They've interviewed him,
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and you know, they go walking down Bourbon Street with him,
which I find interesting because why don't you go walk
down the lower ninth ward right?
Speaker 3 (16:27):
I don't think as I recalled that Bourbon Street wasn't.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yeah it wasn't. There was a couple of inches of
water Bourbon Street. So they interview Eddie Compass walking down
Bourbon Street, you know, and you know, have a casual conversation.
And I'm like, you know, I mean Spike Lee and
I did that, but the Times Picky Youn doesn't want
to do that. So everybody wants to Everybody wants to
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frame the narrative to fit the narrative that they're trying
to sell to their consumers that you know, whether it's
a TV consumer or a newspaper consumer. And I'm just like, okay, fine,
you don't want to do it that way. If you don't,
if you don't want to treat me like every other
person you're interviewing, and you want me to seem distant
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aloof you know, hazy or you know, kind of pixelated
on a zoom call while everybody else, you know, is
right there sitting across the table from the reporter.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
You don't want me to do that?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Why not? Why wouldn't you want that?
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Good morning? Good morning? How are you you want to
talk about weather?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Climate?
Speaker 4 (17:48):
My gosh, I took the dogs out walking yesterday. It
was so nice. Nice, it was so nice. We're just
gonna be scorching again. And of course that fits the
climate crisis narrative, because you know today is going to
be the hottest in human history, It's always going to
be the hottest in human history. Well, what if we
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find out that it may be hottest in human history
because we don't know how to measure temperature and we
certainly miss measure temperature when we do measure temperature. Yeah,
that and more coming up next. And by the way,
don't ever be afraid, you know, on.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
The text line, do you.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Ever want to ask me a question? Because you've always
wondered about something about Katrina. I'm an open book, baby,
I'm an open book. I'll tell you whatever.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
With how the program was starting out, I was getting worried.
Michael said, do you want to know what dragon? And
I've been up to this morning, and I thought new
then Dragon says, how much better Michael looks than he
did twenty years ago? And I was like, oh, this
is how office romance start. Is this a romance?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Is it a roman?
Speaker 5 (19:00):
I'm not sure I want to go to have that
path you too.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Dan's left his text messages up, and somewhere in the
text messages was something that made me laugh out loud.
Let me see if I can find it real quickly,
because it kind of fits with what you just pointed
out about.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
That is funny. I didn't even think about it at
the time. I was just yeh, that's good.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
That was very very good.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Let's see, Dan, I'm pretty sure most males age freeze
at twelve years old.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
In the humor department. Very true, very true.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
That's one of the truest statements you could ever pick.
I might go thirteen somewhere between Trump. Yeah, yeah, basically,
i'd say puberty in that mindset, Yeah, in that mindset,
that's where men are frozen and we never grow up,
and you should be thankful that we don't. A central
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pillar of well, it's the It's one of the gospels
in the Church of the climate activists and you need
to fit it on a bumper sticker. Which is why
this is so good. And that is the phrase that
you hear today is the hottest in human history, or
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this is the hottest day on record, or this is
the hottest day we've had in you know, one hundred
and sixty five years the record of US set one
hundred and sixty five years ago. Now that line about
being you know, a day in any day in particular
being the hottest day ever only works if you accept,
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without any question, without any critical thinking whatsoever, that we
actually have some sort of reliable global temperature data before
satellites existed. But the fact is we do not what
we have. You know what a couple of days ago,
maybe at sometime last week is the days only Tuesday,
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so it must have been last week. I talked about
the temperature record at Denver International Airport and how we
had the thermometers sitting right out at the end of
the runway. And then on the weekend program I did
the story about Oh, Phoenix hit a record, and we
find out that they have their temperature sensor at the
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end of I think runway twenty five and it's right
at the ramp where they the plane's idle until they
line up to take off, and so you've got and
I think it was a bunch of delta flights. According
to flight radar, there were like eight or twelve, you know,
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delta flights, all lined up, and of course they're blasting
five hundred degree fahrenheit exhausts right at that you know,
little thermometer sitting sticking out of the earth. And then
suddenly they can proclaim on the weather hottest day ever,
Oh well, it's scorching. We're all gonna die. Well, we
don't have the kind of reliable global temperature that we
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should have. What we have is this patchwork of land
stations that are concentrated in a few developed regions. We
have a lot of ocean guesses from ship tracks and
then later generous, really generous statistical infilling. I think we
can all agree, maybe not, but maybe we can that
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the nineteen thirties were brutally hot across the country.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
The dust Bowl.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
He was both a humanitarian and an ecological disaster. Crops failed, soils,
blew away, heat waves killed thousands of people. The worst
hard times I've mentioned that book. In fact, it's also
a series that they made a movie out of the
book Worst Hard Times. You know, my high school debate
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teacher is quoted in it. She grew up during the
dust Bowl, like my grandparents and my parents. Noah's own retrospectives,
they still actually call out nineteen thirty six as a
bench mark. Summer July nineteen thirty six remains a singular
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month in the record of United States temperatures. Now, Atmospheric
CO two, you know, because that's the gas that Polish
wants to get to net zero in the next five years.
At that time was roughly three hundred and ten parts
per million. Now we know that because we derived that
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figure from ice core records, and that's widely used in
NASA's data sets. So we get told a story, and
the story kind of goes like this, Yeah, the United
States was scorching back in the nineteen thirties, but the
world itself was cooler, and only in the modern era
the global temperatures rise anywhere else. Now that story actually
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depends less on observations and now moral algorithms. Everything about
it seems to be controlled by algorithms as opposed to
actual data. Before nineteen fifty, most thermometers were in the
United States, Europe, and parts of the British Commonwealth. There
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were huge part large parts of Africa, South America, the Arctic,
and the southern notion virtually had no coverage whatsoever. Even
the Noah led overview of their record keeping notes how
the core database is a collage of many sources with
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varying periods of record. That is, the raw material that
moderate analysis now inherits is a mission of data, none
of which we can say is you know, based on
sort of equal factors. So that kind of leads to
an uncomfortable discussion. When there are no thermometers, you either
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leave grid boxes blank on your Excel spreadsheet or however
you're keeping track of the data, or you paint numbers
in from far away HEADCRUT historically left many boxes blank,
explicitly avoiding interpolation, which means the global mean depends on
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where you actually have observations. NASA's system goes the other
direction and spreads all the anomalies up to twelve hundred
kilometers from a station. So you you get an anomaly
at point a trapolate that to another point twelve hundred
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miles away, and plug in the same number. That's what
NASA does so you fill the gaps with twelve hundred
kilometer smoothing over. We'll just take this one point and
just smooth it over in a twelve hundred mile radius
around that one point. Now, that's not I mean, those
are choices. Those are choices specifically made by the quote
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scientists who are tracking the data. But that's not trivial.
That's actually the ballgame. That's actually the framework in which
they have established a narrative to convince you that, oh
my god, we're all boiling to death. We're all gonna
die if you overlaid the nineteen thirties anomaly map with
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the station density maps. In other words, you take the
nineteen thirties temperatures, particularly the anomalies, and then you overlay
that where the temperature stations are the density maps or
the temperature stations. Do you see something that becomes pretty
obvious warm, where the thermometers were numerous, cool, or neutral.
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Where the thermometers were either threadbare or widespread. Then you
do a compilation of historical station distribution, say from nineteen
twenty one to nineteen fifty, and you find the same
basic point. The network was sparse, badly unbalanced. And that's
what we base our records on. So then fast forward
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to the present day at a new contaminant and that's
the urban heat index airport placement. Now we've talked about
over the past couple of weeks. Now the photos and
the flight logs tam We talked about Tampa. Remember how
they hyped up one hundred degree fahrenheit record was a
five minute artifact of a delta jet idling right next
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to the sensor. And then we walk through the same
playbook in Phoenix Sky Harbor trod it out there, August
record built on back to back departure plumes. These are
jet fueled laws. There are cautionary tales about about how
compromised data gets laundered into national data sets and then
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it gets weaponized into the headlines. There's a data set
called an Overview of the Global Historical Climatology Network Daily
data Set, And when you look at it, it's a
it's a Merketer's map of the globe. You know, that's
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the map where you flatten everything out so you can see,
you know, all the continents in one frame. Well, when
you look at that and you look at the nineteen
twenty one to nineteen fifty of the historical overview. The
rest of the world seems pretty normal, and it's just
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solely the United States that has the anomaly of all
this heat.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Gee, I wonder why, Michael.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
You probably remember when Ray Nagan said that New Orleans
was going to be a chocolate city, you know, just
sort of dumbly without realizing how ridiculous it sounded. What's
your response to that? How did you deal with that
at the time the thing was so ridiculous. I'm just
wondering what your perspective is on that.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Where we were, and when I say we, it's the
staff that always traveled with me, my personal assistant, my
usually my press secretary, and he's probably a deputy chief
of staff. So there would be, you know, four of
us traveling together or along with security detail. And what
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I remember in particular about that is that the head
of my detail, a wonderful human being by the name
of Kenny. Kenny came up to me and said, do
you think I'm chocolate? I said, what do you mean?
Because I hadn't heard I hadn't heard the statement yet.
(30:27):
I said, what do you mean, do I think you're chocolate?
He says, well, I'm a black man standing right here
in front of you. I you know, I'd laid down
my life for you to, you know, protect you. That's
my job. I got to take other I got to
take the bullet for you. Do you just think of
me as a as a chopic guy? I said, no, what?
Speaker 3 (30:44):
What?
Speaker 1 (30:44):
What the other?
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Because I had no context in which I'm trying to
figure out why why are you asking me this dumb
asked question you and I've gotten, which is a mistake.
You really should not become like I mean, you should
have a good you know, you should have a good
working relationship with you your security detail. You want your
security detail to like you, and you wouldn't like them
because your life kind of depends upon them. So so
(31:08):
Kenny and all of a sudden developed a really close relationship,
I mean, not best friends, even though you know when
I went out to dinner, they were always sitting at
a table, you know, not far from me. If I
got on an airplane, there was one sitting in front
of me and one behind me. And I finally said,
what that after you're talking about? And he goes The
mayor just said he's going to turn new Orleans into
(31:29):
a chocolate city. I mean, I just that's that was
kind of my response right there. I just kind of
laughed and I said something to the effect of, well,
are you wanting to move here? Do you want to
like help them rebuild it into a chocolate city? And
he just mumbled off about that racist son of a
bitch or whatever, and just and walked off. And I
(31:53):
remember turning to Marshall, who was my personal assistant, and
just saying, did you really say that? Like, did the
mayor really say that? And so later that evening we
watched the news clips and sure enough, he's gonna turn
New Orleans into a chocolate city. I think this day
that I'm pretty sure the day he said that was
(32:13):
the day that he had been bitching about we didn't
have enough supplies and materials.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
So I took him out.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
There's a road that goes from downtown New Orleans out
to Louis Armstrong Airport, and we had sees all of
I mean, some warehouses we had seized, some vacant lots, everything,
and we had just tons of equipment moving in there,
just piled up with you know, bulldozer front end loaders,
(32:40):
and you know, there were reefer trucks and there were
eighteen wheelers everywhere, And I took him on a tour
of that to say, look, it's here. We can't get
it into your city because we're blocked because of the floods.
We can't do anything right now. That's why we're focused
on putting getting people outlet stupid super dome. Were you
said them m temperature anomalies. I'll wrap that up real
(33:07):
quickly and move on
Good morning, Michael.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Michael Hey then listened to your podcast lately quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
I wish I could say a good job, have a
good day.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
You know, bite my ass if you know what Dragon
and I have been doing this morning, and then you
drop that talk back. Bite my ass is probably the
kindest thing I could say to you right now, because
actually I'd like to just say something else, but no,
we won't do it this morning, or maybe we will.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I will say, you look much better than you did
twenty years ago.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
That's as far as I'll go now.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
And why do you say that you're thinner?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, you look you just you look good, You look
less stressed.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Hair's black, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
But I kind of expected the hair to gray a
little bit besides and stuff, And I don't care about that.
It really bugs me is the balding on the back.
I told my my barber one day, you know, because
how they put the mirror up. I said, don't ever
put that mirror. Don't do not ever put that mirror
up again.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
No, don't care about that.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah, I don't care about that. And I and you
know that's back there. I don't see it. As long
as I'm facing people, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
So you know, I had the same problem because when
we had my mother had the subways, we had a
security camera straight down Oh my gosh, oh, and I
was looking at them and I'm, you know, doing paperwork
and counting things, and I look at the camera and
sure enough, I can see that just bald spot getting.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Bigger and bigger and bigger. It's like, I don't, I don't.
I don't need to see this do anymore?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Now? Are you completely bald now? Or do you shave?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I've got the horseshoe, so I know, but but I mean,
do you but is.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
There some are sides in the back? Yeah? Yeah, that's
all I've got left. Remember this there.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You probably are old enough to remember it.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
There used to be something on television back in the
seventies where you could spray yeah. Ray, maybe I need
to find that stuff and spray that. But you know what, Dragon,
I'm gonna go ahead and tell people what we were
talking about.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
You look good.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
You look better today than you did twenty years ago.
For honest you know. I I know we joke a lot,
and I know we pick pick on each other quite
a bit.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
But.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
That guy was a fat guy and me being a
fat guy can say that.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yes, and but you now you're your much better health.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Well and uh in terms of energy, in terms of
vitality and just you know everything.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
But you do look weird without glasses back then, because
I'm just used to seeing you with glasses.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Oh I even think I myself, I look weird without glasses.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
You look better with glasses, yes, because there.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
When when I'm when I'm putts around the house, I
don't have glasses on and I happen to walk by
a mirror, I even I think, oh, that's yeah, put
those glasses back on. But when you first started wearing
you know, when you first start wearing glasses, that looks weird,
you know, and then and then suddenly that becomes the normal.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
So what were you.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Doing last night?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Missus?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Redbeard and I stumbled up on a net Geo documentary
last night.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
We were really few episodes.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Oh that's interesting because I know, well, I now know
something about it because when you know, I went to
New Mexico what a couple of weekends ago, and I
had seen a blurb somewhere because I still haven't set
up in Lexus and nexus that this may seem egotistical
to you. But I do it for a very specific
(03:39):
reason because I have to monitor what people say about
me in case somebody ever crosses the line and says
something that is utterly defamatory or libelous, threatening, yeah, or
threat or threatening, then I'm gonna take action. And so
I got a uh, you know pop up that Matt
(04:02):
Geo Natural National Geographic has put out a documentary.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And it's a it's a hurricane documentary. My wife loves
the weather documentaries and everything, so it's like, oh, well,
we'll check this one out.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah, so you so, so now you've had I think
there's five episodes, were three in okay, yeah, yeah, and
into three episodes now of a documentary about hurricane This
is about Hurricane Katrina.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I think it's named Katrina, the one that hit hit
New Orleans. Yeah, that one, yeah, that one. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
So it is out there in case you go watch
it and you're three episodes into it, so you're more
than halfway through it, and how many Uh, well, let's
back up.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
You've seen numerous.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Current interviews of people that were living then, Like, for example,
you won't see any current interviews of Governor Blanco because
she since passed away.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
But he's seen the general.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You saw General Honor.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Right, You've seen ray Egan, You've seen a staff and
the chief staff, woman, the woman, uh you've seen I
don't know, I just and accomplished. They all the police
chief so.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Looks better now than he did. Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
He's also like you lost some weight, right? Yeah? Yeah?
How did you like the current interviews with me? I'm
assuming they're coming later because all that I have seen
of you is archived footage.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Oh, I'm sure you.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
You've sat down with them and they're they're waiting for
that final episode to get your side of the story.
They're they're waiting for the final episode to get your
site right, right, Michael. So it's kind of like one
of those those mic drop situations where you know, because
they've all just got their side of the story where
they absolutely vilify you in that general he hates you.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
But so we're waiting. We're waiting patiently for year turn.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
If you were doing a air quote here documentary and
you were including people that were involved in that natural disaster,
and you interviewed those players, you would indeed think that
you would reach out to Michael Brown.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I would reach out to.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
If it were my documentar, i'd reach out to everybody
all the way up to President Bush. Yeah, and if
I know that, I probably couldn't get him, So I
wanted to get some kind of staffer at least that
was by his side right to get his perspective.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, we're still waiting. Like I said, it's probably gonna
be the last episode right now.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Let me just suggest that you not hold your breath.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I didn't even know that that GEO was doing a
documentary until I saw it advertised no email, no phone call,
no snail mail, no telegram, no smoke signal, no smoke signal,
carry your pigeon, no.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
No knock on the door, no lawyer, producer, director.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Pretty fair documentary and did not get one of the
major players that everybody seems to vilify and their their
thoughts behind it all.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
And the reason I know it's out now is because
I've been told to rotten Hell. I've been told that
clearly that that I hate black people. I'm I'm a
racist s ob, and that I mean every pejority you
can possibly imagine is now being lobbed in. And I
(07:59):
would be lying to you if I told you that
it doesn't to a certain degree. Steam but I've also
like pretty much developed the attitude you know what f
you because you're watching a documentary that didn't have the
journalistic integrity to perhaps reach out and say, you know,
(08:22):
we're gonna vilify you.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Would you like to say anything?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
And missus Raybeard is surprised too, because as we're watching it,
she's like, well, this guy's being interviewed, this guy's inter
being interviewed. When are they going to bring in Michael?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I just thought I told her. He hasn't said that
he's in it, so I don't know. Maybe this just
seems a little odd. And she's like, why wouldn't they what? No,
I mean, because she likes you. She's a bit upset
because they keep, you know, picking on you, and she's like,
(08:57):
why are they picking on him so much?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
He's not a bad guy.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I think the only thing that And I'll be.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Honest here, if they had reached out, I don't know
that I would participate. I probably would have, depending on
how much editorial control I would have had over Okay,
if you want, if you want me to sit down
for an hour, and you already know what your storyline is,
(09:31):
and you're going to ask me questions, then I will
want a copy of that entire that raw footage, so
that whenever you finally produce your documentary, and if you
do as they have done, then I could pull out that, Oh,
you didn't include where I said this, You didn't include that.
(09:52):
You didn't include this. And the other thing that that
I find fascinating is they also quote emails that were written.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
About me, not from you and not from me stop,
and we're like, wait a minute, right, he didn't say that, right,
never said that.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
But they present the emails written by someone else unbeknownst
to me, as if I was the one that had
said what was in the email?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
How was the steak right?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I don't even think there now.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I don't know about today, but there was not a
ruth Chris steakhouse in Baton Rouge, Louisiana in two thousand
and five, or if there was, that's certainly not where
we went to.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
D I love how they implied that you went to
a ruthless steakhouse, right, I know, said where you went
or who you were with or what. But yeah, they
they were pretty upset with you for that.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Yeah, that press secretary about a day or two later,
I'd say, within twenty four hours of me finding out
she had written that email, fired her, fired her and
sent her back.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
To the strange hold that wasn't mentioned in the Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
I've fired her, sent her packing home. And that's when
I call Scooter Libby, Cheneg's chief of staff, who had
stolen my previous secretary away from me, and said, Scooter,
I really need Leanne back because I just fired my
press secretary and explained to him why. And Scooter was like,
(11:34):
oh my god, yes you can. We'll we will loan
you Leanne and you can have her back.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
And of course those who hate you probably still see
that as you know here she.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Is telling the truth and he fired her ass.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
By the way, so let me yes, as long as
we go to go to go down that rabbit hole.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Charel was a black woman too, Oh dear god.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
So I hired a black press secretary and fired a
black press secretary. So that GEO, what do you have
to say about that? What do you have to say
about it?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Which which I'm kind of glad that they didn't mention that,
because then well they clearly had stated before that Michael
Brown hates black people.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Right, yes, and Asians and Hispanics and Latinos and you know,
formally fat bald white guys.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
So there's that. I'm just full of hatred, full of hatred.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Well, I am full of hatred for the cabal because
they are despicable.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Organism and whatever they are, and.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Not seeing you in it. I did come in this
morning kind of curious as to if you were in it, and.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
I wait, wait, stop, stop women. So dragon Dragon comes
flying through the door, which is a heavy door to
fly through, you actually have to really push that door
to fly through it. And you came flying through that door.
You kind of leaned over the console here and kind
of hesitated, like I can't decide whether.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
To bring this up or ask you this, or.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
I can't decide whether to And of course then my
response is you know that you you present it that way,
then you have to bring it up, and you did.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I didn't want to piss you off. I didn't know
if you were having a good day, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I didn't want to, you know, and I didn't know
if you wanted to talk about it, because you haven't yet,
and I had no idea how long it had been
out and it's been out.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
At least two weeks. It's been at least two weeks.
And for those of you that follow me on x
you may have seen some of the comments. The most
recent one was just reading dragging. Some of the most
recent ones about you know, they hope that I rotten
hell and that you know I hate black people, and
oh the best one was one of the best ones.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I think.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
I I don't think. I don't think I've been hiding these.
I think I've been just letting them sit there, because again,
I really don't give a S wordy years ago, yeah,
I don't really give an S work. But some of
the best ones have been about how I don't like
(14:07):
black people and they want me to rot in hell,
and then they will go on and just I mean nasty, nasty,
nasty stuff, and I'm just like, yeah, well, you don't
do anything but just watch TV and you think that
whatever the T feeds you is the truth.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
And so there you go.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I sure hope people that do watch that documentary sit
there and go, hmm, this is are they going to
get his opinion? How come he's not talking? I mean,
maybe they'll put something up in the end that says,
you know, we offered interview Michael By, but he don't.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
My god, I hope they do.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I hope they do, because if they do, and that's
when I'll issue a press statement that I was never contacted,
reached out anything by nat Gio, not at all. You know,
the really quick story about what's going on. So the
Times Picky You, which is the newspaper in Orleans Parish,
(15:07):
New Orleans, they're doing a series of people that were
involved twenty years ago, and they sent me the first
three that they did to show me kind of what
they wanted to do. And all three of them are
in person, sit down interviews. So I looked at them
(15:32):
and I said, I would be willing to do that
under the same conditions, right yeah, live in person, and
you know, I'll even pay my own way. I'll come
down to New Orlean. I'll fly down to Norms because
I could leave here one morning and do the interview
and be back, you know, by dinner time, be back.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
In the evening.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Once I put that requirement in, silence, silence went away
and I and I understand why they want me on
a zoom call because they won't. I mean, think about
how a live interview looks sitting across the table from
you know, the Eddie Compass, the police chief. They've interviewed him,
(16:21):
and you know, they go walking down Bourbon Street with him,
which I find interesting because why don't you go walk
down the lower ninth ward right?
Speaker 3 (16:27):
I don't think as I recalled that Bourbon Street wasn't.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yeah it wasn't. There was a couple of inches of
water Bourbon Street. So they interview Eddie Compass walking down
Bourbon Street, you know, and you know, have a casual conversation.
And I'm like, you know, I mean Spike Lee and
I did that, but the Times Picky Youn doesn't want
to do that. So everybody wants to Everybody wants to
(16:54):
frame the narrative to fit the narrative that they're trying
to sell to their consumers that you know, whether it's
a TV consumer or a newspaper consumer. And I'm just like, okay, fine,
you don't want to do it that way. If you don't,
if you don't want to treat me like every other
person you're interviewing, and you want me to seem distant
(17:18):
aloof you know, hazy or you know, kind of pixelated
on a zoom call while everybody else, you know, is
right there sitting across the table from the reporter.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
You don't want me to do that?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Why not? Why wouldn't you want that?
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Good morning? Good morning? How are you you want to
talk about weather?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Climate?
Speaker 4 (17:48):
My gosh, I took the dogs out walking yesterday. It
was so nice. Nice, it was so nice. We're just
gonna be scorching again. And of course that fits the
climate crisis narrative, because you know today is going to
be the hottest in human history, It's always going to
be the hottest in human history. Well, what if we
(18:08):
find out that it may be hottest in human history
because we don't know how to measure temperature and we
certainly miss measure temperature when we do measure temperature. Yeah,
that and more coming up next. And by the way,
don't ever be afraid, you know, on.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
The text line, do you.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Ever want to ask me a question? Because you've always
wondered about something about Katrina. I'm an open book, baby,
I'm an open book. I'll tell you whatever.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
With how the program was starting out, I was getting worried.
Michael said, do you want to know what dragon? And
I've been up to this morning, and I thought new
then Dragon says, how much better Michael looks than he
did twenty years ago? And I was like, oh, this
is how office romance start. Is this a romance?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Is it a roman?
Speaker 5 (19:00):
I'm not sure I want to go to have that
path you too.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Dan's left his text messages up, and somewhere in the
text messages was something that made me laugh out loud.
Let me see if I can find it real quickly,
because it kind of fits with what you just pointed
out about.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
That is funny. I didn't even think about it at
the time. I was just yeh, that's good.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
That was very very good.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Let's see, Dan, I'm pretty sure most males age freeze
at twelve years old.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
In the humor department. Very true, very true.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
That's one of the truest statements you could ever pick.
I might go thirteen somewhere between Trump. Yeah, yeah, basically,
i'd say puberty in that mindset, Yeah, in that mindset,
that's where men are frozen and we never grow up,
and you should be thankful that we don't. A central
(20:03):
pillar of well, it's the It's one of the gospels
in the Church of the climate activists and you need
to fit it on a bumper sticker. Which is why
this is so good. And that is the phrase that
you hear today is the hottest in human history, or
(20:24):
this is the hottest day on record, or this is
the hottest day we've had in you know, one hundred
and sixty five years the record of US set one
hundred and sixty five years ago. Now that line about
being you know, a day in any day in particular
being the hottest day ever only works if you accept,
(20:44):
without any question, without any critical thinking whatsoever, that we
actually have some sort of reliable global temperature data before
satellites existed. But the fact is we do not what
we have. You know what a couple of days ago,
maybe at sometime last week is the days only Tuesday,
(21:06):
so it must have been last week. I talked about
the temperature record at Denver International Airport and how we
had the thermometers sitting right out at the end of
the runway. And then on the weekend program I did
the story about Oh, Phoenix hit a record, and we
find out that they have their temperature sensor at the
(21:29):
end of I think runway twenty five and it's right
at the ramp where they the plane's idle until they
line up to take off, and so you've got and
I think it was a bunch of delta flights. According
to flight radar, there were like eight or twelve, you know,
(21:50):
delta flights, all lined up, and of course they're blasting
five hundred degree fahrenheit exhausts right at that you know,
little thermometer sitting sticking out of the earth. And then
suddenly they can proclaim on the weather hottest day ever,
Oh well, it's scorching. We're all gonna die. Well, we
don't have the kind of reliable global temperature that we
(22:14):
should have. What we have is this patchwork of land
stations that are concentrated in a few developed regions. We
have a lot of ocean guesses from ship tracks and
then later generous, really generous statistical infilling. I think we
can all agree, maybe not, but maybe we can that
(22:39):
the nineteen thirties were brutally hot across the country.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
The dust Bowl.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
He was both a humanitarian and an ecological disaster. Crops failed, soils,
blew away, heat waves killed thousands of people. The worst
hard times I've mentioned that book. In fact, it's also
a series that they made a movie out of the
book Worst Hard Times. You know, my high school debate
(23:05):
teacher is quoted in it. She grew up during the
dust Bowl, like my grandparents and my parents. Noah's own retrospectives,
they still actually call out nineteen thirty six as a
bench mark. Summer July nineteen thirty six remains a singular
(23:26):
month in the record of United States temperatures. Now, Atmospheric
CO two, you know, because that's the gas that Polish
wants to get to net zero in the next five years.
At that time was roughly three hundred and ten parts
per million. Now we know that because we derived that
(23:46):
figure from ice core records, and that's widely used in
NASA's data sets. So we get told a story, and
the story kind of goes like this, Yeah, the United
States was scorching back in the nineteen thirties, but the
world itself was cooler, and only in the modern era
the global temperatures rise anywhere else. Now that story actually
(24:11):
depends less on observations and now moral algorithms. Everything about
it seems to be controlled by algorithms as opposed to
actual data. Before nineteen fifty, most thermometers were in the
United States, Europe, and parts of the British Commonwealth. There
(24:31):
were huge part large parts of Africa, South America, the Arctic,
and the southern notion virtually had no coverage whatsoever. Even
the Noah led overview of their record keeping notes how
the core database is a collage of many sources with
(24:52):
varying periods of record. That is, the raw material that
moderate analysis now inherits is a mission of data, none
of which we can say is you know, based on
sort of equal factors. So that kind of leads to
an uncomfortable discussion. When there are no thermometers, you either
(25:16):
leave grid boxes blank on your Excel spreadsheet or however
you're keeping track of the data, or you paint numbers
in from far away HEADCRUT historically left many boxes blank,
explicitly avoiding interpolation, which means the global mean depends on
(25:40):
where you actually have observations. NASA's system goes the other
direction and spreads all the anomalies up to twelve hundred
kilometers from a station. So you you get an anomaly
at point a trapolate that to another point twelve hundred
(26:02):
miles away, and plug in the same number. That's what
NASA does so you fill the gaps with twelve hundred
kilometer smoothing over. We'll just take this one point and
just smooth it over in a twelve hundred mile radius
around that one point. Now, that's not I mean, those
are choices. Those are choices specifically made by the quote
(26:26):
scientists who are tracking the data. But that's not trivial.
That's actually the ballgame. That's actually the framework in which
they have established a narrative to convince you that, oh
my god, we're all boiling to death. We're all gonna
die if you overlaid the nineteen thirties anomaly map with
(26:51):
the station density maps. In other words, you take the
nineteen thirties temperatures, particularly the anomalies, and then you overlay
that where the temperature stations are the density maps or
the temperature stations. Do you see something that becomes pretty
obvious warm, where the thermometers were numerous, cool, or neutral.
(27:17):
Where the thermometers were either threadbare or widespread. Then you
do a compilation of historical station distribution, say from nineteen
twenty one to nineteen fifty, and you find the same
basic point. The network was sparse, badly unbalanced. And that's
what we base our records on. So then fast forward
(27:39):
to the present day at a new contaminant and that's
the urban heat index airport placement. Now we've talked about
over the past couple of weeks. Now the photos and
the flight logs tam We talked about Tampa. Remember how
they hyped up one hundred degree fahrenheit record was a
five minute artifact of a delta jet idling right next
(28:03):
to the sensor. And then we walk through the same
playbook in Phoenix Sky Harbor trod it out there, August
record built on back to back departure plumes. These are
jet fueled laws. There are cautionary tales about about how
compromised data gets laundered into national data sets and then
(28:25):
it gets weaponized into the headlines. There's a data set
called an Overview of the Global Historical Climatology Network Daily
data Set, And when you look at it, it's a
it's a Merketer's map of the globe. You know, that's
(28:47):
the map where you flatten everything out so you can see,
you know, all the continents in one frame. Well, when
you look at that and you look at the nineteen
twenty one to nineteen fifty of the historical overview. The
rest of the world seems pretty normal, and it's just
(29:09):
solely the United States that has the anomaly of all
this heat.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Gee, I wonder why, Michael.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
You probably remember when Ray Nagan said that New Orleans
was going to be a chocolate city, you know, just
sort of dumbly without realizing how ridiculous it sounded. What's
your response to that? How did you deal with that
at the time the thing was so ridiculous. I'm just
wondering what your perspective is on that.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Where we were, and when I say we, it's the
staff that always traveled with me, my personal assistant, my
usually my press secretary, and he's probably a deputy chief
of staff. So there would be, you know, four of
us traveling together or along with security detail. And what
(30:04):
I remember in particular about that is that the head
of my detail, a wonderful human being by the name
of Kenny. Kenny came up to me and said, do
you think I'm chocolate? I said, what do you mean?
Because I hadn't heard I hadn't heard the statement yet.
(30:27):
I said, what do you mean, do I think you're chocolate?
He says, well, I'm a black man standing right here
in front of you. I you know, I'd laid down
my life for you to, you know, protect you. That's
my job. I got to take other I got to
take the bullet for you. Do you just think of
me as a as a chopic guy? I said, no, what?
Speaker 3 (30:44):
What?
Speaker 1 (30:44):
What the other?
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Because I had no context in which I'm trying to
figure out why why are you asking me this dumb
asked question you and I've gotten, which is a mistake.
You really should not become like I mean, you should
have a good you know, you should have a good
working relationship with you your security detail. You want your
security detail to like you, and you wouldn't like them
because your life kind of depends upon them. So so
(31:08):
Kenny and all of a sudden developed a really close relationship,
I mean, not best friends, even though you know when
I went out to dinner, they were always sitting at
a table, you know, not far from me. If I
got on an airplane, there was one sitting in front
of me and one behind me. And I finally said,
what that after you're talking about? And he goes The
mayor just said he's going to turn new Orleans into
(31:29):
a chocolate city. I mean, I just that's that was
kind of my response right there. I just kind of
laughed and I said something to the effect of, well,
are you wanting to move here? Do you want to
like help them rebuild it into a chocolate city? And
he just mumbled off about that racist son of a
bitch or whatever, and just and walked off. And I
(31:53):
remember turning to Marshall, who was my personal assistant, and
just saying, did you really say that? Like, did the
mayor really say that? And so later that evening we
watched the news clips and sure enough, he's gonna turn
New Orleans into a chocolate city. I think this day
that I'm pretty sure the day he said that was
(32:13):
the day that he had been bitching about we didn't
have enough supplies and materials.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
So I took him out.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
There's a road that goes from downtown New Orleans out
to Louis Armstrong Airport, and we had sees all of
I mean, some warehouses we had seized, some vacant lots, everything,
and we had just tons of equipment moving in there,
just piled up with you know, bulldozer front end loaders,
(32:40):
and you know, there were reefer trucks and there were
eighteen wheelers everywhere, And I took him on a tour
of that to say, look, it's here. We can't get
it into your city because we're blocked because of the floods.
We can't do anything right now. That's why we're focused
on putting getting people outlet stupid super dome. Were you
said them m temperature anomalies. I'll wrap that up real
(33:07):
quickly and move on
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