8-15-25 - 6am - Whining About Your Own Choices and Epstein - Maxwell

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Michael, this is Max in New Hampshire. AC is still broken.
At least it won't be one hundred today. Here's your
preemptive talkback, no cackling camelo audios.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Well, Trump's been in office. Let's see, it's August. He's
been in office for eight months. In fact, almost five
days will be eight months of the day. And Kamala
is not running for governor. She went on what Colbert
or something and tried to push a book and nobody cares.

(00:35):
Nobody watches that show is canceled. She's being canceled, and
people still leave talkbacks fearful of listening to a cackle
good And then two things before I get into some Well,
this is serious, but it's also funny. A couple of things.

(01:00):
Three things I want to do sometime in starting right now.
Three things in no particular order. Well, I want to
do Gislaine Maxwell, Epstein's girlfriend, paramore solicitor Matt Clerk, what madam,

(01:21):
madam whatever you whatever you want to describe her as. Uh,
yesterday I mentioned casually something about, oh, I know what
it was. We were doing the little CNN guy that
does the polls and talking about how interested Epstein is
just plummeted, and he just cannot he can't fathom that,

(01:42):
he can't understand that. That of course caused me to
go in and do it Lexus Mexas search and find
out how many stories there are about Epstein and and
how the searches have dropped off and all of that,
and that led me to Gisline Maxwell and that interview,
and I think I probably know why, so I want

(02:03):
to delve into that a little bit. And then there
is a story that appeared that on X that then
made me think, Wow, this is a great example of
why we can't have nice things in this country. And
I posed a couple of questions on X and we'll

(02:26):
look at what some of the replies were. And then
I walk in and this I'd heard this story before.
I'd heard it like on you know, driving around town
or something. And Dragon has it in his pile of
crap that he leaves for me every day because he
likes to pretend that he's doing something helpful, which is.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
I like to piss you off. So I'll try and
find the really stupid ones here from Colorado and then
some really off the wall ones from.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Around the world. Yeah, And I would say All three
of them really pissed me off this morning, except the
one about Brian Kolberger. He's the convicted murder of those
four students in Idaho. I think that that's the one
that I heard on somewhere traveling around town in the
past couple of days that I had to just kind

(03:15):
of chuckle to myself. Good, I know, I thought of myself.
You know how we kind of sometimes, because today's typepay
relief shot day, how sometimes we kind of celebrate the
death of a thug because perhaps they're child molester, or
they you know, they beat their girlfriend to death or something,
and we're like, well, you know, maybe we could celebrate
that one. Well, this is why sometimes maybe you ought

(03:39):
to think about the death sentence as opposed to life
and sentence life sentences. I know that people don't, I
mean people who have no faith or no belief in God,
or no belief in hereafter fear of death. But for
those of those of us, look, I don't want to
buy a painful death, but I don't fear the hereafter.
I kind of am kind of, uh genuinely curious and

(04:03):
excited about hereafter because you can't avoid it. It's going
to happen, and as when Steve Jobs was dying from
pancreatic cancer or whatever, and his family reports that as
he's taking his last breath, he's kind of pointing up,
you know, he's kind of raising his arm and pointing
to the sky and going oh wow, wow, oh wow.

(04:27):
Well yeah, you know, so there. Convicted Brian killer Brian
Colberger has whined. He's whining. I love the fact they
used the verb whine. I know you. You murder in
cold blood for people, You maintain your innocence for months

(04:51):
after they catch you. Of course you're going you escape
and run away and maintain your innocence. And then when
the DA and the prosecutor kind of dump all the
evidence in your defense attorney's lap, the defense attorney is like, hey, bucko,
come here, sit down, let's talk. Because I've had those
conversations with clients before, and I'm like, look, I'll defend you,

(05:13):
and it's your choice, but I'm here to give you
my professional advice. And my professional advice is you want
to do a crap shoot with a jury. You want
to do a crap shoot with a judge that you
know is going to be pissed off that you know,
you're making him listen to all this crap, or do
you want to make a plea deal? And oftentimes I

(05:35):
want to make a plea deal. And that's exactly what
Colberger did. He got hit with four life sentences for
the killing of those four University of idahost students. Now
he was transferred from jail to the only maximum security
prison in the state and is now being held there
in solitary confinement. Now, I don't know whether this story

(05:59):
tells it or not, but one story I came across earlier,
before I even heard about the whining, was that it's
kind of like being in supermacs. You get out. He
may get out once or twice a day solitary, so
he's in the yard, you know, for the sunlight and
whatever exercise he's going to do by himself, and he

(06:21):
eats his meals in his cell by himself. Convictor killer
Brian Colberg, according to the story, has whined that he
is extremely annoyed. He's annoyed the murder of four students,
is annoyed, and he's losing sleep, oh, thanks to his

(06:47):
fellow inmates, who apparently are constantly yelling through the vents
into his cell in a relentless taunting campaign, according to
a report, I find that glorious. That's like if you're
a child but lester and you get you know, or

(07:07):
or a you know, a child rapist or you know,
a child killer or whatever, and you go to prison. Yeah,
you pretty much got the death sentence. At some point,
somebody's gonna shank you. At some point, somebody's gonna do
something to you.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
I just feel so bad that this multi murderer you
can't get a good night's sleep.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Oh good, I oh, I didn't as there was audio
with this. Huh. Now I'm torn between whether trying it
or not trying it.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Not if you haven't listened to it yet, and.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
It's it's a heavily overweight woman who's twenty eight years old.
Twenty dragon you you love numbers. She's twenty eight years old. Yeah,
she has nine kids currently, okay, and she's pregnant with triplets.

(08:04):
Do the math?

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Well, I mean they could all be individual but I mean,
if she's already got triplets, there's a high possibility that
she probably.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
That's true, but even accounting for maybe one or two
sets of triples. To do the math, did it say single.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yes she's single.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yes, she's single. Single.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Guys, there's a catch out there. Just keep your eyes open.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Where is she? I want to well, she's at the
top of my feet and in my profile on x
right now hang on, yeah, and maybe you could listen
to it. Maybe we could listen to you if you
listen to it. I didn't realize last night when I
was sitting at dinner going through my X field, I
didn't realize there was audio. And even if I had
known there was audio, I'm not sure that I would

(08:53):
have had to put my AirPods in because I'm not
sure that the other patrons in the restaurant while I
was sitting at the bar eating would have appreciated me
playing this woman screaming about her EBT card.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
I haven't listened to it, but guys, she's a catch.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
She is a catch, isn't she? Wall Street Apes reports. Now.
I don't know whether this is true or not, but
what I do know is true is the video. I mean,
it's her video, so I know this part is true.
And if she's saying it, so I'm going to take
her at face value that it's true.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Guys. She cooks tood she ever breakfast.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Have you looked at that we have? Oh, holy Cara,
look have you seen where she takes the liquid butter,
remember the squeeze butter. She takes the squeeze butter. What
a squeeze margarine or whatever it is, and she just
fills the fry pan full of it.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
And of course, yeah, as soon. I'm just shocked and
amaze right now. Yeah, it will be at Michael said,
go here dot com. But I'm just infatuated with I mean,
she's got some cooking skills.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
She do well. Not only does she has some cookie skills,
but she also has some some child child rearing skills too,
because she's able to cook scrambled eggs while holding one
of those rugrats skills. I'm telling you this, This is guys,
this is your chance for all you guys out there
who thought there was never you know, because you know,

(10:26):
they always say you know. First of all, you know
they always say, you know, that's you know, she's not
the only you know what what what's the saying? So
that's some of you met the she's not the only
fish in to see or she's not the only if
some if if you've been dumped recently, here is your opportunity.
And we we occasionally like to reach out and for

(10:47):
our lonely hearts out there in goober Land. We really
want to try to help you. And here's your opportunity.
And I'm telling you this breakfast. I'm not sure I
can do this breakfast every single day, but this morning
I could do this breakfast. Now, I might I might
be in a coma for the rest of the day,

(11:10):
but I could do the breakfast right now.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
It would seem to me. I mean, I guess she's
she's cooking in bulk. So, but there's an easier way
to cook eggo waffles.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Well, I don't know, I disagree.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Drop him in the toaster.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well, but then you can only do two at a time, agreed.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, unless you got one of the toasters, it's like four.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Oh, well, then you can do four to time. Still
you still you have.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Right, nine kids exactly, So on the way on the
flat top.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, it's a little easier. I think. I think it's
I think it's easier and quicker. It's it's it's mass production,
mass production. So she's twenty eight years old, she's a
mother of nine who's pregnant with triple triplets, and she's
making videos about how she spends thousands, thousands of dollars
a month food stamps, food stamps, thousands of dollars a month. Now,

(12:06):
this would this woman, assuming she carries these kids to term,
she's going to have twelve kids, one hundred percent supported
by taxpayer funded food stamps. Except the post claims that
her EBT has been terminated. Terminate. Now I looked at that,

(12:29):
and I have to say, quite quite honestly, well let
me just read you what I wrote. You say it's
already up. You already have it up with like I says, go.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Here, not constracted. I was watching the whole thing, but yes,
it'll be posting the moment. Give me a second.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
It is.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
It is mesmerizing, isn't it Her skills, her cooking skills,
her juggling skills. I mean, and I mean the word
juggling literally the.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Kid and the kid's helping to Oh.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
This woman had This woman is she needs to be
a short order cook somewhere because she can whip it out, baby,
she can whip it out. Then she says, done, cut
my stamps off. Day one surviving without food stamps, and
she's really, really upset about that. Now here's my question.
I don't know what her circumstances are, But in all honesty,

(13:26):
if this is true, and I have no reason to
believe that it is not true, then I got a
couple of questions. I know the answers. Do you know
the answers? First for for those who But let me think,

(13:47):
let'split this way. How do we reach the point where
we think it's appropriate for you and me as taxpayers
to be forcibly required to pay for that. You know
what my answer is? Say it with me. Come on,
you know what the answer is, because we have abdicated

(14:08):
our compassion to the government, and we expect the government
to take care of people who get themselves, who make
really bad choices in life, and then who expect somebody
else to pay for those choices and to support her
in trying to deal with those choices. I've made bad choices.

(14:29):
I want a dragon red beard from my producers. Some
of the stupid things I've ever done. I well, I
have true sympathy for this woman. I have zero sympathy
for the choices she's made or the place that she's
put herself in. And I have zero feeling of responsibility

(14:54):
that I owe her anything out today. For iHeart employees,
although for those of us who had direct deposit, we
got our paycheck a couple of days ago. But for
employees who don't, they require direct deposit here, I.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Think they do now we have one holdover. When a
host from downstairs, it was really pissed. He's like, I
just like having the physical check.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Really, yeah, that's weird.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah you had a car guy.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Oh seriously, he hated switching over to the buddy. The
different quirks of people haven't killing you and me are
always so interesting to me, little little things that we
just stick to.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
But when they first offered that, I was like, no,
I want the check. I want to hold it in
my hand. And then they're like, you get it a
day early. I was like, never mind, never mind.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
And sometimes mine showed up Wednesday. Look at you. Mine
showed up Wednesday. I don't know. Maybe because I'm in
the bees, right, yeah, yeah, you know, and you're in
the WS. You don't get your stance for winner, Winner,
that's right. So what seriously, why are we paying for this? Well?

(16:05):
I know why because over time, you know, we start small,
like every government program, we smart we start small, we're
gonna have a social safety net, and it's gonna be
for the for the poorest of the poor, people who
clearly are incapable of caring for themselves. And then it
blows up to the point where we are paying for
a woman who has nine kids, single mother, nine kids,

(16:26):
and we give her thousands of dollars a month to
feed those nine kids plus three on the way. I
think that's an abomination, and I think it ought to
be cut off. I think we ought to cut it off,
and we ought to begin a shift back to the
private sector. Churches, charitable organizations, you know, feed the children,

(16:49):
whatever it might be, that they take care of this,
because I don't think that we have a responsibility. I
truly do not, in particularly in this in these circumstances.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Now.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Second, for those who think that cutting her off and
taking away her food stamps, my question for you would
would be for those who somehow think that that is awful, Uh,
why why why do we allow that kind of support, empowerment, enablement,

(17:29):
enabling that kind of abuse of a system. She's making choices,
absolute choices, and I think it's wrong. This morning, Brian
Colberger is in the prison in Idaho, whining after killing

(17:49):
four students in cold blood, whining because his fellow inmates
he's in solitary confinement. They can't you beat him up
or you know, harass him, so they're yelling and taunting
him through the air conditioning vails. Oh poor baby. And
the mother with nine rugrats three on the way, Mike.
With regard to the woman who has nine kids, I'm
assuming each one of those kids has a father, and

(18:11):
I'm wondering if that woman has filed her child's support
from the father's and if not, why not? And if
she hasn't, why should we be paying for food for
those kids when the father should be paying for it.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
I'm curious as to why you think each of those
kids has an individual father. She may have been married
to the same many and they have both chosen to
have all of those twelve kids. He may have lost
his life due to an accident, leaving her as a
single mother. But you can think how you want to think,
that's fine, we don't know what's going on here.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Or's gubern never seventy four hundred rites. When you don't
have to work to support your children, it's not that
hard to have twelve. Now that she doesn't have zero
PM other people's money to support her children, maybe that
will work as birth control. Before anybody gets mad about
my opinion, I'm a single mother with a child on

(19:04):
the spectrum. I work to support him, no government funds,
not even medicate in our audience, God bless you.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
I mean, it may very well be worst case scenario
that we're all thinking twelve kids, nine dads, all that
kind of stuff, But it may well be the exact opposite.
It could be maybe she could be and maybe he's passed.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Away, right, And on the other hand, it could be
she's got nine daddy's out there, daddy's out there, and
they're all not doing a damn thing, and neither is she.
And what what's her incentive? Think about? To collect child support?

(19:48):
You you got to go to court, You got to
go throw out hassle you actually have to do. If
you know who the daddies are, you got to go
through all of that to locate them, serve them, and
then you got to try to collect it. Got to
do all of that. Well, why when they'll just electronically
reload your card for you every month?

Speaker 3 (20:07):
And who's to say in the collection will happen considering
my own personal case. Right, my kid's biological mother still
owes you a grand Oh, I was gonna get out. Yeah,
she'd a deadbeat. She as it was described on the
third floor when I worked there, lesbian prostitute bank rubber.
So you know she's got no address and got LPB.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
The LPBR she's an LPBR? Is she LPBR plus two
eight square?

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Probably?

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah? Right, As I said yesterday, the CNN was astonished
that nobody was caring about the Epstein files anymore. Well,
they're so wrong, because last night, thank you for watching.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
While guys, tomorrow, President Trump is meeting with Vladimir Putin
in Alaska, and Trump is confident that he can get
Putin to make a deal.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Trump thinks he can change Putin's mind about the war.
That's why he's already calling.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
In the summer, I turned Putin and over.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
But today Trump said, whether we make a deal or not,
the important thing is to distract from Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
That's me. Yeah, Trump and.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Puttin have only met one on one twice before.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
No, that's enough. So I guess late night so called
comics still believe that it's always been amazing to me
the degree to which the Kbal, and quite frankly globle
people that listen to the Kabal allow themselves to be

(21:46):
a latter around by a defense attorney's press conference. Anytime
defense attorneys come out and talk about their clients, it
always find it amusing and frustrating all at the same time.
It's wappable and it's predict now rather than trying to
stitch together, I don't know a coherent narrative to address
the events of the whole Epstein fiasco. In the context

(22:11):
of the events since the issuance of the memo by
the Department of Justice that no Epstein materials are going
to be released, I just want to pose because what
I did last night after I because I kept thinking
about it all day, So why is it? What happened?
So I went through the I went through X and

(22:31):
did a search for Epstein, and I found some questions.
So let's walk through the questions because it's kind of
they're actually kind of interesting and it helps explain why
this is a so far nothing burger. The first question
I found read like this, why was Maxwell never interviewed?

(22:52):
Is Laane? Why was Maxwell never interviewed? In the past.
Was it because her answers would implicate implicate powerful people
in Epstein's child greate club and who were being protected
by the Deep States since they are members of the elite?
Think about this. When Epstein entered into a non prosecution
agreement with US Attorney for the Southern District of Florida

(23:14):
back in two thousand and seven, that sweetheart deal that
everybody kind of complains about. One of the provisions in
that deal was that no charges would be brought by
the United States against any potential co conspirators. Well, who
would be a potential co conspirator is laying Maxwell? Now,

(23:34):
whether you agree with that original Plea agreement or not
as immaterial, that was part of the agreement. Now, I
think the original Plea deal was a bunch of bull crap,
but it contained the language that that no charges would
be brought against any of his potential co conspirators. So

(23:55):
it seems to me quite probable that while Epstein was alive,
he assured Maxwell that she was protected from prosecution for
anything involving him. And what would that do? Well, that
would keep her loyal to him. Now, without a cooperation agreement,
she still had her fifth Amendment right not to answer questions,
and the provision in Epstein's non prosecution agreement to shield

(24:17):
her all coupled together, there was anything to motivate her
to cooperate out of fear for herself. Now, I can't
imagine any competent criminal defense lawyer recommending that she cooperate
unless it was an exchange for full transactional immunity of
her own in other words, no charges in exchange for
testimony against Epstein. So, given what some of the victims

(24:41):
have said about her involvement, a small fraction of which
was the basis for her conviction, who would have possibly
recommended that she get complete immunity for testifying against Jeffrey
Epstein because her testimony wasn't needed against Epstein, but needed
at all. So when would they When would they have

(25:02):
interviewed her? Well, probably back in two thousand and six
two thousand and seven, when Jeffrey Epstein was entering into
his plea agreement with US attorney down in Florida. What
should Maxwell had been offered in order to answer questions
when she herself had been involved in the sexual abuse
along with her recruiting and her grooming activities. Because remember

(25:26):
that's what she was convicted for. So then another question
I found, which I thought was a reasonable question, why
did the Department of Justice give her immunity in order
to secure her interview? This? What? Now? What three weeks ago?
Can can maybe it wasn't, probably was three weeks ago?

(25:46):
Can she no longer be prosecuted or made to testify
against the elites who were members slash clients of the
Epstein Child rag Club. Again, any competent criminal defense lawyer
who has a client still in the middle of the case,
even if it's up on appeal, it's not going to
allow the client to answer any additional questions without some

(26:08):
kind of protection that any answers that the client gives
will not be used against your client at some future
time should events not play out as anticipated. And we
see that, well, we got a great example of how
things don't play out as anticipated. Huh, Hunter Biden cops
are really sweet plea deal and it falls apart when

(26:31):
the judge simply asks a question, does this provide like
comprehensive immunity from everything possible? Falls apart? Now, most people
don't realize that Gislaine Maxwell actually lost her direct appeal
in the second in the second Circuit. But she still
has a petition for cert pending before the Supreme Court.

(26:55):
But even if that cert is denied, in other words,
if the court refuses to hear her case, including making
a claim based on ineffective and ineffectiveness of counsel back
in the district court. If denied, that can then be
appealed to the second court. She a second circuit. She

(27:16):
can go back and forth for a long time with
this stuff and doesn't really need to say anything else
at all. If any one of those opportunities turned out
to be successful, she could, and I think would face
a new trial in New York on the same charges
or probably even more charges if the Department of Justice

(27:37):
decided to go to a grand jury because they've got
additional evidence. Now, if a defense lawyer did not secure
what's called use immunity, that's a written agreement that no
government witness would testify in a court or any proceeding
anywhere about her answers during the interview if she was granted.
If she was to be granted a new trial, the

(27:58):
first witness called by a prosecut couter would be an
agent who was in that interview, and that agent could
then testify to the jury about every incriminating statement or
answer that she ever ever gave from the government side.
That kind of agreement encourages a person likes laying that's
being interviewed to be honest, because if the answers won't

(28:18):
be used to incriminate them, there's no reason hold back
the truth. In fact, just the opposite. They offer. The
one crime a proffer letter does not protect. The one
crime that a profit letter does not protect against is
making false statements during the interview. So you have every

(28:39):
motivation to be nothing but truthful. Michae or Michael, Hey,
seeing how you are my news source.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
I never did hear why he killed.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Those other students, So let's get on that. Get reported.
Chop chop.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
That's got to.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Annoy the hell out of you.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
I said that, Okay, chop chop, let's go.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
It's it's annoy Michael day to day. But that's any
day Indian. Why so nine zero two six Michael Trump
was hanging out with Epstein, The Left would have used
it against him years ago and deserve it deservedly. So
if true, exactly exactly, that's why that's one reason why
this is nothing. Burger but I'm giving you all the

(29:27):
other reasons why this whole Gislaine thing is a nothing burger. Also,
now those are about the girl. That's about the mom.
We'll go back to that in a minute. The other
question I ran across real quickly was if, during the
interview Gislane identified let's say one hundred and more persons
connected to Epstein, why is it that nobody's ever been

(29:48):
prosecuted for being members or clients of the Epstein Rate
Child Rate Club, which the Department of Justice learned of
at least as early as two thousand and six. Now, listen,
maybe this comes as a shock to you. I don't know,
but you know what, having sex with a person under
the age of eighteen. Guess what, that's not a federal crime.
Even if Maxwell could be seen as providing I don't know,

(30:10):
compelling evidence to some of the individual that she identified
as engaging in sexual activity with girls under eighteen at
any of the various locations that were used by her
in Epstein, that's not enough to support any federal charges.
It's the federal crime of sex trafficking that involves the
transitive individuals for the purpose of engaging in a commercial

(30:33):
sex Act eighteen USC Section fifteen ninety one. You have
to knowingly affect, engage in, or affect interstate commerce or
foreign commerce. You have to recruit enthies, harbor transport, provide
blah blah blah, knowingly in reckless disregard of the fact
that the person has not attained the age of eighteen,

(30:55):
and then will be caused to engage in a commerci
sex act. So the offense under the statute is conduct
that in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, you know,
recruiting and ticing all of that stuff, But just engaging
the commercial sex act is not listed because that's not
a federal crime. So the clients of the so called

(31:16):
rape club could not be charged with sex traffic under
the federal statute unless they played an active role in
getting the girls to travel to that specific location in
interstate or foreign commerce where the commercial sex took place
Epstein Island, New York, Florida, Santa Fe, wherever it might
have been. If the girls were already at those locations,

(31:39):
or if they just went with the clients on the airplanes,
that does not prove that the client was engaging in
that federal statute or had violated that federal statute. So
unless I've missed something along the way at all, I
don't think there's been any suggestion that Epstein was staging
orgy such that Maxwell would have personally observed any of

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those hundred individuals actually engaged in commercial sex acts with
minor girls. But the point of the answer to the
question is that the legal issues involved here are far
more complicated than I think are being assumed by most
people who think just getting a list of names is
all that's needed. And I think that's why I'm convinced

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the DOJ's really not hiding anything. Now, there may still
be questions about did he really kill himself not kill himself,
you know, and I am kind of morbidly curious about that.
I'm curious about the tapes and why we have the
video tapes and they've clearly been edited or some of
the you know, tapes of any eras or like, Yeah,
I'm curious about that stuff because I wonder if there's

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some corruption going on that does involve some of these clients.
But in so far as Maxwell's concerned or Trump's concerned,
this is a huge nothing burger, and I think the
public generally understands that are