8-19-25 - 8am - Mail In Voting

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Michael, you said do do?

Speaker 2 (00:02):
You said do doo, and you said it during the
bathroom remodeling commercial.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
I know I caught myself doing it. You think you're
so clever pointing it out when I knew when I
did it.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
That talk pack bring me so much joy.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
I know it does, just the way she says it
to do do do?

Speaker 1 (00:24):
And I don't know what irritates me more the fact
that I know that I did it and it was
a flub, or did you get such joy out of it?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Just said do do ah.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Let's get back to melean balloting. You said do do Lord. Yes,
we're twelve years old.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Why is my mom calling me at eight o'clock.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
In the morning, just making sure you're awake?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (00:53):
All right?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
No see now that now that's the brain now is like,
m what is my mother? One?

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:05):
And just so you know, I also recognize that she
probably does not She's done this a couple of times
in the past week. She's accidentally dialed me several times too,
because she's you know, when you get older, your fingers
not exactly steady and you might hit the wrong name

(01:26):
on it. Then and then she butt dialed me one time,
and I'm yelling trying to see if she might at
some point, And then I realized how foolish it is,
because even when we're actually talking on the phone together,
she can't hear me half the time. So then I
realized I'm screaming and it's like not being hurt anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
So well, we'll see if she leaves a message. I know,
and you don't have to at me. I know that
many of you love of mail in ballots. I find
the entire concept of mail in ballots to be utterly ridiculous.

(02:10):
I don't go to the post office very often, so
it doesn't really have anything to do with going to
the post office, although when I do go to the
When I do do go to the post office, I
generally don't go to the main post office in Highland's Ranch, because,
with all due respect to the postal workers, it is
like walking into slothland. Just I mean, the lines are

(02:34):
just horrible. You wait forever. They don't seem to be
in any hurry or concern about Oh, the line is
out the door. Maybe we ought to get you know,
we've got five positions and only two people. Maybe we
ought to get some people from the back come up
and help reduce the line. Oh but I so anyway,

(02:59):
when I go to the post office, I tend to
go although this doesn't always work out for me, so
just mailing something to me is just like a pain
in the ass oftentimes. Now there is over on the
other opposite direction from the Highlands Ran post office, there
is a gift store that also has a post office
in it, and I will oftentimes go there. But I've

(03:22):
walked in there before and there's grandma trying to send
a package to their grandson, and it's just well, can
we any do you have any labels? And it's just,
oh my gosh, I just want to mail this back.
I like fed X and ups, I really do. But
I'll ask you a question. Is it really that big

(03:45):
of a perk to be able to mail something in
once or twice, maybe four times a year as opposed
to I don't know, getting out, actually getting some fresh air,
some sunshines from vitamin D, physically putting a ballot into
the box, or actually voting at the precinct. You know, what,

(04:09):
what have you done? It's it's only Tuesday. In fact,
it's if we hadn't done it well, unless you count Sunday.
Let's count the weekend, and let's count yesterday. What have
you done? Where you have gotten in your car or
for those nuts, the light ride light rail, gotten onto

(04:32):
a bus, gotten on light rail and gone where somewhere
and done something. You will you will fight traffic like
crazy to go to uh, well, maybe not to a
Rockies game. You will to the Savannah Bananas which sold
out Corsfield. But you won't go to a Rockies game

(04:54):
unless maybe the Yankees are playing. I think the Yankees
kind of stuck this year. But anyway, but or you'll
go to you know, some art exhibitor, you'll go to dinner,
you'll do whatever. But you'll get in your car, you'll
go somewhere. You'll fight the traffic. You're going to work
right now. And apparently I the twenty five traffic sucks.
They're shocking news all to see what did I do

(05:16):
to see? Camera's been gone? So I went out to eat.
I came back to the studio on Saturday to do
the national program. Yesterday I actually went into King Soupers,
which man dragging. That was a disaster again. I'm ready
to I'm at the self checkout. I have five items.

(05:37):
I've put them on the place where it weighs, where
you're supposed to put them.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
I then push the little mini cart back. Get my
canvas bag.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
That's what you get wrong, put it.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Under my arm and suddenly, beat.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Beat, beat, yet fishy movements.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Little pimple faced kid comes over. I said, I don't
need help. Why does it say this is why, I
honestly said to him, So I don't need any help.
Why does it say I need help? He goes, because
it thinks you're stealing something. Yep, I you know what
I did. I want to speak to a manager. So

(06:19):
I told the manager how pissed off I was. I said,
First of all, there were I don't know ten fifteen
checkout lines, only two of which were open, but everything
else was self checked out, so I was kind of
forced because I didn't want to wait for the regular checkout.
And then I'm accused of shoplifting because I put the

(06:42):
bag that I remembered thought, fortunately, remember before I got
too far away from the car, Oh take him your
stupid bag. So I took my stupid bag in, and
then I'm accused of stealing my own bag.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
True, I hate it, hate it.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
What'd you do this week? What have you done in
the past seventy two hours that got you outside? To
really grasp the insanity of promoting a single ballot being
sent by mail not belonging to a truly disabled person
or deployed service member, or someone like my mom that
just called. Does she leave a No, she didn't leave

(07:24):
the voicemail probably, but dial So the insanity of requiring
a single ballot to be sent in by mail that
does not belong to a truly disabled person, a person,
a person in a nursing home, a person hospitalized, a

(07:44):
deployed Armed services member, or who am I leaving out here?
Your grandmother who is confined to her home because she's disabled,
Well disabled people think of to grasp that insanity. Think

(08:06):
about the absurdity of a military commander mailing home urine
tests for soldiers that he's trying to keep accountable to
not use the drugs that brings in. I go now,
I'm not gonna do it right now, I'll do it later.

(08:28):
If you examine just how easy it is for big
money to buy massive amounts of harvested ballots, and urban counties,
say like Orange County, California, which figures to be pivotabal
pivotal for determining which hard party holds the House majority
after the twenty twenty six midterm elections. How hard or

(08:50):
easy is it to harvest one hundred thousand ballots? Well,
Orange County is a great example of that, no rational
person knowing what is fully available to understand. I don't
think whatever think it was acceptable to have able bodied
people putting ballots in the mail. Even one fraudulent vote

(09:14):
cancels out a legally cast ballot. And do you really
think mom or dad ideologue isn't filling out their college
kids' ballots at the table when they're too busy partying
to come home, or they're just Mom, just fill it
out for me, Dad. You know, Dad, don't fill my
ballot out because you know, I know that you're a

(09:36):
Trumper and I hate Donald Trump. So Dad takes the
ballot and says, okay, I'll just throw it away, and
then Dad fills it out. What comes next? You know,
it's one thing to blast something out on social media,
it's nothing to actually execute. So it's clear from Trump's
post that I think there will be an executive order,

(09:57):
perhaps maybe this week. You know, he's been kind of
busy the past forty eight hours, ninety six hours. He
will assert federal authority over elections because he says, quote,
remember the states are merely an agent for the federal
government in counting and tabulating the votes. Well, some people
are going to have a field day with the legal

(10:18):
eese required to understand the current situation. But it is
clear that the parents are looking to step in. Dad,
he's looking to step in and take control of the
party that the kids have ruined with their reckless behavior.
This is the basis of Ken Paxton's twenty twenty suit
in Texas versus Pennsylvania, where he alleged the Pennsylvania's miscarriage

(10:39):
of its own election laws actually ended up disenfranchising texas
thirty eight electors. In other words, the choice of Texans
for president should have been the same as Pennsylvania's, but
their voice was negated by Pennsylvania tipping the race to
the other candidate. Now, the Supreme Court refused to hear
the case, which was probably the best of all the

(11:02):
cases that were brought, and was brought by the most
impactful political players. Texas and Pennsylvania the biggest, the largest
offenders of the mail in balloting rules, are going to
immediately file suit to stop implementation of the order and
suddenly finding themselves art and defenders of state rights and
the Elections Clause, Article one, Section four of the Constitution

(11:26):
the times places in manner of holding elections for Senators
and Representatives shall be prescribed in each state by the
legislature thereof. But the Congress may at any time, by
law make or alter such regulations, except as to the
places of choosing senators. Yes, choosing senators Now by leading

(11:54):
a movement to abolish mail in balloting, mail in voting materially,
whichever way you want to describe it, it seems to
me that Trump is planning to move quickly to have
Congress from trying as executive order into law, as is
prescribed in the second half the Elections Clause. But the
Congress may at any time, by law, make or alter

(12:16):
such regulations, except when it comes as to the places
of choosing senators. I've got little doubt he'll have massive
Republican support for that endeavor, especially from states like Texas, Georgia,
the core red states in the heart of the country.
But I think there will be enough Republicans from male

(12:38):
heavy states like Florida, Utah, and Arizona to make it
harder to get through the House of Representatives. So the
Department of Justice will need to definitively prove that male
in voting disenfranchises states with fair elections and warps the
outcomes disproportionately. Hear how states with universal mail in voting

(13:00):
came out in twenty twenty four ninety one to twelve
for Harris in the electoral College. Washington, Oregon, California, and Yes,
Little Old Colorado delivered ninety one electoral votes for Harris

(13:21):
and Nevada in Utah was six each delivered twelve for Trump. Now,
there are a number of other states that don't have
universal mail voting but still send out lots of mail
in votes. Take Arizona or Florida, for example. Michigan went
from eighteen point one percent mail voting nine years ago

(13:46):
to almost sixty percent mail voting in twenty twenty, and
then legislative fact seventy seven in Pennsylvania made the electoral
process a fiasco of epic proportions, allowing Democrats to collect
hundreds of thousands more ballots than pre twenty twenty electoral
trends and party registration shifts would even suggest possible by

(14:07):
any traditional means. You know, just as infantry always accompanies tanks,
ballot harvesting always accompanies. Mainly in voting, the pool of
available registrations is made infinitely worse by the adoption of
automatic voter registration, and that creates the most unnatural skew

(14:31):
in all of presidential politics. Because remember, Harris won just
five electoral votes not under automatic voter registration in twenty
twenty four. Now, if Trump's going to go for the
end zone on mail voting, then he should double down
and cripple automatic voter registration as well. To help. Somebody

(14:57):
will show Trump some of these numbers. If a ban
of male imballoting were to be upheld, making US like France, Italy, Russia, Belgium, Japan, Mexico, Sweden,
or even everybody's favorite Ukraine. Based on an analysis of
the last three cycles, I suspect the following states would

(15:19):
be those states mostly deeply impacted by eliminating it. Arizona back,
We'd go back to a Republican stronghold with a much
stronger legislature and probably two Republican US senators California, I
think Democrats would immediately lose their handle on at least
I don't know, maybe a half dozen US seats, and

(15:43):
then they probably failed to milk the state for enough
of a margin to guarantee popular vote victories. Colorado probably
the Petri Dish of the twenty first century. I think
it's you know, we are blue, but I think we're
light blue because male in balloting, and that would loosen
the grip on some of these House seats. Not saying

(16:06):
we would get a majority, but it might change, which
brings me two of all people. Because now that this
is in the news and we are indeed the Petri dish,
guess who CNN runs to to find out just how
secure our system is. Yes, Jenner Griswold, and you'll hear

(16:26):
from her in just a minute. Go back to those
of states, California, Colorado, Georgia, probably back to a like
three Republican state for the future. Michigan now it's moving
in the direction of Pennsylvania the next decade. Would it
probably result in the gradual extinction of the blue dog
Democrats in that state, and Michigan might actually have a

(16:48):
potential of going red. Minnesota instead of just being solidly blue,
would I think become a toss up, would remain, but
would become a true toss up state for presidential elections. Nevada,
it would transition to full Republican. I think up and
down the ticket. New Jersey its slight slide right word

(17:12):
toward competitive status, would probably continue on that path. New
Mexico difficult, but I think could be a Republican state
within a decade with continued shifts in the Latino Voote.
Oregon clearly single digits blue state because you're not going
to change Portland, the Pennsylvania, Washington, Wisconsin all change a

(17:36):
little bit. Mail in voting a scam, Mike.

Speaker 5 (17:39):
If you would have just brought your hand basket in
instead of the damn canvas bag, you would have never
been stopped and everything would have been just fine. Remember
the hand basket next time, like not the canvas bag is.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
But how do you keep them from taking your newly
acquired hand basket.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
I the reason I don't have a handbasket is last
time I tried to take one out, they wouldn't let
me take one out.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
I made it to the store, I made it to
my car, but the next day and the next time
I went to the grocery store and brought my newly
acquired hand basket back in.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
I wonder, I need to go to Kingsupers and take
a photo of their of their particular handbasket, and then
see if I can find one on Amazon that's identic.
Then take that in and the minute they try to
take it away from me, scream the top of my voice,
this is my property, and make sure I have a

(18:31):
receipt in my pocket for the I want to finish
real quickly about mail in ballots and what a scam
it is. And I was then going to go to
Jenner Griswold, our Secretary of State, but then I got

(18:53):
a text message and the person who sent me the
text message about your all for mailing out ballots. I
want to and I'm just giving you a heads up
in case you want to get some you know, some
gauz and some you know, some of that surgical tape
and some stitches and things, because I'm going to rip

(19:16):
you apart, okay, but I'm doing it with love, doing
it with love. So what I wanted to finish saying
about the whole point that Trump is making about mail
in ballots. It is a scam and it was installed.

(19:37):
Think about us as the Petri dish. Why do you
think democrats want? Democrats in the blue book, in the blueprint,
the blue book in the blueprint point out how they're
going to take control of the state. Then once they
get control of the state, what do they do to
solidify that They institute all mail in. It is a

(20:01):
scam installed by people like Colorado Democrats who realize it
is the easiest way to control election outcomes using I'm
saying that, I'm not saying they use the delay in counting,
but states can use the delay in counting mail in
ballots to drip drip the winners out. They can use

(20:22):
the mainstream media of the cabal as a mouthpiece. Some
states have taken the elections clause too far and created
election systems that altered the compensation of the federal legislative bodies,
and they manipulate the outcome of the electoral College vote
for president. The Trump forty seven administration has this shot,

(20:43):
if taken perfectly, to reset the balance of electoral power
and quite frankly, kind of slap the crap out of
American citizens and make us realize that voting. Is it
is a right, certain degree, it's a privilege because some

(21:03):
countries don't get that right to vote, So we ought
to take it seriously. Where if we're if we treat
the mail in ballot like we do the remote control,
Oh my god, I can't change the channels. Where's the
remote control? I can't get ab off my ass to
do anything. Good grief, which leads me to the text message,

(21:31):
I'm not evenna I'm not even gonna give your goober
number out, Mike. I'm all for mail out ballots so
I can take my time to consider the issues. I
fully support requiring in person ballot drop off at the
same time in place as in person voting. Do you

(21:53):
want to retract this? Are you telling me as someone
that listens to this, I'm trying to I'm really, I'm
really serious. I find this text message so incredibly offensive.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
Well, even my cookie rattle brain can sit there and go,
wait a minute. They mail out the booklets prior to
hand I don't need the ballot in front of me
while I'm reading said booklet.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Well, the blue book, which I mistakenly pointed to thinking
about the blueprint, which was actually a book thinking about
the blue book, Dragon makes one simple point I wanted
to make.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
And then I just write down my decision in that book.
Then I go to the polling place, the school, the library,
the whatever have you, the post office, and then I
mark it down that ballot that they give me.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
But let's set aside the blue book for a moment. Okay,
are you telling me that there's not Let's just think
right here. You start out with the situation with Michael Brown.
Then you have what does Ryan.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Call his show, Ryan Schuling Life.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Ryan Schuling Live. Then you have the Dan Kaplis Show.
Then over there on that other station you have Ross Commence,
the Ross Kaminsky Show. Then you have the Mandy Connell Show.
So you have three four, you have five programs and

(23:35):
I'm not even counting our competitors who will talk to
you about issues on the ballot. Then you have and
I can't even begin to list, but you know the
most obvious is you have complete Colorado dot Com. So
the Independence Institute puts out its own position on all

(23:56):
of these ballot issues. I even gotten the candidates yet,
we're just talking about issues. So you have a plethora
of places, and then of course you can go to
the Colorado Sun. You can go to Progress Colorado or
whatever Alan Franklin calls his group. Now you can go
to any number of groups anywhere to find out the
other side of the issues too. You can be inundated

(24:19):
with information that you can just sit on your fat
ass at home and either hear or read about every
issue long before you go to drop off your ballot
on election day. To sit here and tell me that
you need time to consider the issues. Holy crap, batman,
that's some kind of stupid. Sorry to be so blunt,

(24:42):
but I'm offended by this. Now, let's talk about the candidates.
Good grief. Now, I don't do candidate interviews. I refuse
to do candidate interviews because I don't want to get
in a position of having to provide equal time to others,
which is not a legal requirement, but I had gets
a little touchy if you really kind of you know,

(25:03):
it's part of our ethics training about equal time when
we go through that stuff. I don't even want to
broach it. Plus, I don't want to sit here and
waste valuable time listening to a bunch of talking points.
So I just I just refuse all candidate interviews. I
just you know, I've got all I have friends who
run for office that want to come on this program,

(25:25):
and I refuse to do it. There are a bazillion
places I know that Mandy and Ross and Ryan all
do the interviews. Dan will do interviews. You can hear
interviews anywhere else. I'm not doing them. But just because
I'm not doing it doesn't mean you can't learn about
candidates from them. The candidates themselves, all the information, the stories,

(25:46):
Every every local channel covers the candidates. All the local
newspapers cover the candidates. All the websites cover the candidates.
You could even go to a rally. You could even
ask a question. You can talk to a staffer. You
can do any number of things that tell me that
you need time before you actually go vote. By the
time the election day arives, you might not to be

(26:07):
made up to tell me that you need time to
consider the issues. Holy crap, Batman, I just don't. I
don't get it. Oh and the blue Book does not
have local information. Well, I don't like the blue Book anyway.
You know why, because it's produced by the legislative staff.

(26:29):
I don't read the blue Book. But I take that back.
I skim through the blue book just to see what
the questions are. Then I go search out my own.
But maybe I'm just a weirdo. To think that you're
claiming that you don't have time and you need that
time to consider the issues just tells me that you're

(26:50):
not really thinking about it. You're not taking advantage of
all the sources of places you can go to get
information about candidates, about issues, about anything. My god, we
you know we live in the information age? Are you
aware that this is called the information Well, actually a

(27:13):
long time ago they started calling it the information age.
I'm not really what sure we I think we're kind
of in the dumbassy stage right now. But there are
so many places you can get every point of view
that you want on any issue or any candidate anywhere.
So I just call I throw the BS flag on
that text message. Now when we get back. If you

(27:34):
think that's BS, wait till hear the Secretary of State Michael.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
You can't say you find talkbacks to be annoying because
you beg for them, you plead for them.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
What is it? Do you like them or do you
not like them?

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Yes? Exactly yes, the answer is yes, we do not
get it. We beg for them so we can bitch
about them.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Yeah, it's obvious.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Really, come on, good grief. I think all that flying,
all that, you know, pressurized air, you know, good grief.
Do you know what he probably also farted on the plane,
you know, coming and going to So good grief. I
give to you, ladies and gentlemen, Goober's everywhere, Colorado Secretary

(28:26):
of State on CNN.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
Several countries do use mail in balloting for their elections,
and election experts have been very clear that there is
no evidence of widespea well experts. Experts spread mail in
ballot fraud or widespread voter fraud.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
It's not widespread, you know, say they always say it's
not widespread. They never tell you it's non existent, because
it is existent.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Fraud exists on period.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
One of the things vowing to fight Trump's order if
and when it comes. Colorado, which votes almost universe by mail,
joining me right now is Colorado Secretary of State Jenner Griswold.
She's also running to the Attorney General Colorado. It's good
to see you again, Secretary.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
You know the one that can't keep passwords secret. They
can't keep passwords secure. Yes, it's her, she was to
be her attorney.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Hitting She's got a sticky note right next to the computer.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Exactly that password with a capital P, A zero O
zero with a slash through it too.

Speaker 6 (29:32):
Colorado has very successfully run elections with almost entirely by
mail for a decade, I believe, just the president.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Have you ever stopped in thought, seriously stopped and thought,
how does some how does an airhead like this actually
get elected? Because that says a lot about this state.

Speaker 6 (29:56):
Have the authority to tell Colorado to stop?

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Well, good morning, and absolutely not. The Constitution is extremely
clear states oversee elections, not Donald Trump. Donald Trump is
trying to power grab head of the twenty six elections.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
That's what this is about.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
We will stop him, just like I've stopped him from
rolling back mail ballots multiple times, and we will fight
any attempt to disenfranchise millions of Americans all across the country.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
All Right, how does it disenfranchise anyone? We're not saying
that you can't request an absentee ballot. We're not saying
that if you're deployed overseas that you can't get a
military ballot delivered to you, That if you're in a
nursing home, that you can't request an absentee ballot. We're

(30:49):
not eliminating we're not eliminating those at all, But somehow
the trope becomes we're going to disenfranchise millions of people
level across the country.

Speaker 6 (31:04):
He says he's drafting the executive order. It has not
been obviously clearly he has not signed it yet. But
are you already preparing a legal challenge just knowing that
it could and likely will be coming.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
We are in conversations with our attorneys to make sure
we're defending Colorado's elections. Look, mail ballots are secure. They
cannot be hacked because they're a piece of paper.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
I found that interesting. They can't be hacked because they're paper.
That's probably correct, because you've got to go through a
lot of process and ballats like that. You know, you
miss you you put your little spot on one place
and you meant to do it someplace else, and you
got to fix all of that. Hacked is a word

(31:52):
that you applied to computers, not to a piece of paper.
I can't I can't pack this paper. You can't have computers,
and you can well let this letter finish.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
That is increasingly more important as Trump has made our
elections less secure since taking office again.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Hell, please please read heart tell me how.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
He's disbanded much of the federal government's work on countering
foreign disinformation and as obvious.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Foreign disinformation. Wait wait, wait, wait, stop stop. I can't
let that go to the person that sent the text
message about you need more time to consider all of
the information. Maybe we should have less time because we
have foreign information being flood flooding the country with false information,

(32:44):
So maybe we need less time. How about that.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Cues about democracy from a dictator putin?

Speaker 3 (32:51):
And more than that, he's getting all the keywords in.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
She gets got a list of keywords Trump, dictator Putin,
Commune fraud Act eight.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Trump him himself knows that mail ballots are safe. He
used a mail ballot to vote in twenty twenty, as
did his family members. This is not about election security.
This is about a week president trying to grab power
ahead of twenty six and escalating his attacks on our
democracy and constitution.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Excuse me while I go bang my head. I've gotta
go bang my head, and we'll come back and we'll
try again. What a dus? What a dufus? Yep, maintain
those you know. She never addresses the fact that hundreds
of thousands of mail in ballots go undelivered, and then
they get harvested and filled out and they get counted