8-25-25 - 6am - Kilmar Abrego Garcia

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's everybody enjoying their entire month of August off with pay.
Oh wait, now that's just our Congress people. Years ago,
the reason Congress got breaking August was because there was
no air conditioning. But now there's air conditioning in their buildings,
so the average person gets maybe ten to fifteen days

(00:21):
paid vacation. Congress ninety eight to one hundred and five.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Wait, is that the real reason they got August office
because it's hot inside?

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yeah, they wouldn't. They would not meet in August because
DC's a swamp. I mean literally a swamp. That's where
the whole swamp creature, uh Monica comes from.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
But just taking the time off because because.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
It's miserable, and I can attest to the fact that
August and DC is miserable. I mean, you think about Houston,
which in August is miserable, but you get down to
Galveston and there's a little bit of a breeze, so
the humidity is a little offset by, you know, the
sea breeze off the guilf of God of America.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
You go to.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Feedeachs, it's you know, one hundred and twenty degrees, but
it's a dry heat. But I get a kick out
of that because it's still damn hot. I don't care
whether it's dry or human. Now, I wouldn't want it
to be one hundred and twenty degrees and you know,
one hundred percent of humidity because you know, if I'm
going to do that, then I want to pay for
it and go to asauna where I can also get
a really nice massage at the same time. Uh So, yes,

(01:25):
Historically that's why they took off in August.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
And it's also why they didn't used to. They didn't
have very long legislative sessions because it would take them
days to travel to DC. Now they can just be
there and you know, we from Denver. You can be
there in three and a half hours.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
So it's a good gig if you can get it.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
It's a great gig if you can get and think
about it. So you're making you make one hundred let's
say on average, hundred and eighty five thousand, you know, some more, well, no,
nobody less, but some some more depending on what office
you have.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Then you have your cam.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Paying funds, which if you're smart and not illegal, but
if you're smart about how you use your campaign funds,
then you can get a lot of things that you
would normally consider to be personal expenses paid for out
of your campaign funds. Now, there's a fine line. You
gotta be careful where you draw the line, but you
can do that. Uh, there are some there are some

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perks there you you get. For example, there's a gigantic
government contract through GSA with all the airlines, so there's
a government fare.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Of the time.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
That government fare is lower than what you you know,
the cheapest available fare that.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
You can buy anywhere else for them.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, but so you know you fly back and forth, well,
you're actually as long as you do something this is
the thing, this is the thing with the president. As
long as you do something like you're congressman and you
want to come home, you know for the Labor Day weekend,
make sure you have a campaign event because then that
way the campaign will pay for your flight here and there.

(03:12):
And you know, if you need a car, they rent
you a car or whatever. And then your office account,
some of your office account back in DC can also
be used for official travel. Like if you need if
if you're giving you your you're you're going to present
a check to the Mayor of Denver to cover some homelessness.
Well that can become an official trip and then you

(03:33):
can use some of your office account to pay for that.
And then within the buildings, this is why some members
of Congress actually live in their offices. Because you have
a shower, you have a gym, you have a medical facility,
you have a lawn. Uh a uh, I was gonna
say laundry, mad but I'm sorry, I totally misspoke. You
have a dry cleaners that has laundry service, so you

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can just have your stab like, would you know, drag,
would you mind just taking this bag of laundry down
to the basement to the to the Yeah, and you
can get your get your hair cut there. And of
course the gym has shown you know, the gym is.
You know, we actually have a fairly nice gym in
this building. I mean I don't use it than it
was for sure. Well yes, but I've been in it

(04:18):
and I know there are showers and everything. And if
I wanted to, I could sleep here. You know, I
could come in. You know, I could have come in
last night and slept and just showered down there and
just you know, slept in a little later and come
up here.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Okay, Shannon.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
That's like, that's my fears.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
I'd have to be running into other people, right, and
I don't really want to shower with coworkers, so you
know that's not going to happen. So yeah, it's it's
it's a pretty good gig if you can get it,
and then you consider how many workdays you have.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Now.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
I do want to say if you're a member of
the House, it's a little more intense because you only
have two years. So the minute you get elected, you're
already running for re election, so you're already out fundraised
all the time. But fundraising fall it's a pain in
the ass. Also means that you're generally not depending on

(05:07):
who's putting the fundraiser together, you're not paying for the fundraiser.
The people are doing the fundraising for you. Like you know,
you and I decide we decide to host a dinner
for Michael Bennett because we.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Want a fundraiser. Is paying for the fundraiser? Fundraiser is
paying for the fundraiser.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yes, let's say you and I decide we want to
hold a fundraiser for Michael Bennett because he's running for
running for governor and we want to put us into
the pit of you know, collapse sooner rather than later.
So we want Michael Bennett to win. So you and
I will host a fundraiser at one of our homes,
or we might go to Shanahan's. Let's see what we'll

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do it at Shanahan's. And so we'll go to Shanahan's
and we'll tell them that look, you know, we we're
gonna do blah blah blah, and we need you know,
you and I could probably get a thousand people to
show up. So we get a thousand people to show up,
not because they want to see Michael Bennett, because they
want to see you and me. And then we sell
the tickets, and the tickets are going to be enough
to cover the cost of them dinner and everything. And
if it's not, we can always turn to the candidate

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and say, oh, by the way, you know, we need
you to pay for this. And so they usually to
have their campaign funds to pay, you know, because you
got to spend money to make money, right, So you
get to eat really nice dinner at Shanahan. Now, it
also means you have to put up with you and me.
It also means you have to put up with those
ikey constituents who are always demanding something. So you gotta

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go shake hands and kiss babies and you know, hug people,
and you know, you got to have a stafford be
sure and tell you as they walk up to you,
this is Dragon. Remember you met Dragon four years ago, assent.
And so they're always telling you who that you know,
so that you never say, oh, hello, mister dinosaur. Oh no, no, no,
not dinosaur dragon. Yeah, it's golly, it's just and then

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should we Yeah, I'll just go ahead and say it.
I'm actually in a good mood this week because I'm
taking next week off, you know, because it's a four
day week, so I'm able to get like ten days
of vacation with only four days out of my bank.
But this is also the twentieth anniversary Friday will be

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August twenty nine, the day that Katrina made Landfall, and
I have turned down every single It was kind of
interesting this year because all the usual suspects asked me
to do interviews, and then really strange ones like People Magazine.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
What the hell?

Speaker 3 (07:32):
In fact, I just noticed that when did they Let's
see where's that little note? How they do it? This
is from Janelle Griffith People Magazine. Hi Michael, we're on
a first name basis. I never met this woman in
my entire life, but we're on a first name basis. Hi, Michael,
I hope this email finds you well. My name is

(07:54):
Janelle Griffith and I'm a senior reporter. Oh well, in
that case, let me give you a call, sweetheart. I
am a senior reporter with People, and People is always
in all caps in the emails, so that must be
their style there. Their style book requires that I am
writing to inquire whether you would be willing to speak
with me for inclusion in our upcoming package on the

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twentieth anniversary of Hurricane Katrina. I can make myself available
according to your schedule. Please let me know. Thank you
for your time. I look forward to hearing from you. Sincerely,
Janelle Fiono Griffith. So I looked up Janelle, and you know,
before I even wrote back. I wrote Janelle back something
to the effect of, well, I've been telling everybody no.

(08:36):
My inclination is to tell you no. However, I'm open
if you want to make your case for why People
Magazine would be different than anybody else and you have
some unique you know perspective that you want to take.
You have some unique way that you want to do
this interview. I'm open to hearing from you. Please email back,

(08:57):
explain to me what your project is, and I'll let
you know. Silence, just silence. You know why there's another
hip piece. I called him out on them, So I'm
in a.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
I'm kind of in an elated mood that I just
don't care.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
I did do one thing, and I know that there
are a couple of people in this audience that disagree
with me, but it's already done. I was going to
spike it and I didn't, but Susan Page from USA
Today reached out to me, and Susan Page asked me
somewhat similar to what the People magazine did. I've known
Susan four, I don't know, thirty years. Susan writes me

(09:43):
an email and says, Michael USA Today is going to
do a series which I assume starts today or tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
I don't know when.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
We're doing a series on the twentieth anniversary of Hurricane Katrina,
and we would like for you to be a part
of that. So I ignored her for several days because
I just you know. I thought, well, Susan, you know,
and then I just called her. I said, Susan, uh,
what are you wanting to do? And she explained the
project to me, and I thought, you.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
Know, this is the same old crap.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
It's the same old crap people do year after year
after year after year. And I and I said, Susan,
with all due respect, I have no interest in that.
I just really don't want to do it. Then she
made this pitch to me, well, but I thought. I
went to my editorial board and asked the editorial board for,
you know, get you to do an editorial for us.

(10:33):
And I said what she goes, any way you want
to approach it, You can approach it any way you
want to. I said, okay, do that. So I get
an email from one of the editors and they're like, yes,
we you know, we we might edit it for you
know some you know, to meet our our stylistic requirements,

(10:55):
but you can find those online. And we needed to
be eight hundred words or left. I got it in
at seven hundred ninety nine words. It took a lot
of work, but I got it down to seven hundred
ninety nine words. I honestly did not think they would
publish it. I really didn't think they would publish it,
and I considered spiking it. I didn't have I offered

(11:17):
a couple of people to give me some advice or
give me some idea about my approach. Some of them
didn't respond at all, which I took to be that
they don't want me to do it.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
So I just I just went ahead.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
I only showed it to one person, The one person
that I thought would say, don't do this, you know,
that was.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
The missus and Tam read it and said she had
she read it.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
She handed it back to me and said, you should
have said this twenty years ago.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
So I let it fly. I let it fly. I'll
put it up on X and maybe Facebook later if
you want to read it.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Let's start out with our favorite, our favorite illegal alien,
Kilar Abrigo Garcia KAG. Well, let's just refer him to
him as KAG. He is a reputed MS thirteam member.
He was deported to his home country of l Salvador.

(12:27):
There are two orders of removal and a withholding order
of removal. The withholding order of removal is to El Salvador.
It was put in place by an immigration judge back
in twenty nineteen when he also got his original removal order.
So he's been subject to removal order since twenty nineteen,

(12:48):
which by my calculation is about six years. This is
twenty twenty five. He is supposed to report to Immigrations
and Customs Enforcement this morning. I think he's already supposed
to have reported, because when I got in the car
this morning, they were having a rally that I don't
know whether it was an ICE protest or a protest

(13:09):
for him, but he was there. And what I found
interesting was they were doing a press cont or he was.
He was speaking in Spanish, and I'm thinking, wait a minute, bucko,
You've been here since before twenty nineteen. You've been here
in this country for at least six years, and you
can't speak a lick of English or enough to answer

(13:32):
questions or to give a speech, you know, even write
it out and read it. You can't even do that.
And there was an interpreter. And so that was my
first take on it, and then my second take on
it was, Oh, here you are playing for your playing
up for sympathy before you go into Ice, and ICE.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Is going to deport you.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
So let's go through.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
A timeline because between this story and a story that
I talked about on the Saturday program for the You
Just Know. On Saturday, I talked about a Wall Street
Journal story that was very It was a full length article.
I don't mean it was just a typical news story.
This was one of their special stories that they do

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that when you open it up, it takes up the
whole page and you've got to scroll. It must be
at least on a laptop, it's got to be at
least ten or fifteen pages or screens long. So it's
a fairly in depth article. As I read through the article,
I came to the conclusion that the Wall Street Journal
is simply trying to get me to feel sorry for
this family. And I read through the story through in

(14:40):
its entirety. Of course, then I read the comments and
read through the entirety, and then went back and because
I highlighted a few places with my cursor, and went
back to look at some of the things I had highlighted,
and one of the things that I noticed was this
story this family that's stuck in I don't think it's Jalisco,

(15:03):
but it's some border town in Mexico. They're stuck there
because they can't get across the border, and somehow I'm
supposed to feel sorry for them. Will you read the story?
They have a photographer and a reporter who has followed
this family from the time they crossed. I forget whether

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they cross I don't know which of the Triangle countries
they came from. I don't remember. I don't I just
want to you don't give a rats house. I don't
know what country they came from. But I'm as mad
at the country that they left as I am at
the country called Mexico that let them enter Mexico illegally,

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and then they get stuck at the southern border, and
Mexico's all upset about it and wants us to do
something about it. Well, wait a minute, you're the one
that let them in your country. Why should we do
anything about it? And by the way, the president of
Mexico won't let us put boots on the ground in
Mexico to fight the cartels because well, quite frankly, they're
scared of the cartels themselves, so they're not going to
do anything.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
To say. I had the same.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Reaction as I listened for the few minutes drive into
the studio is they're out for sympathy. They want us
to feel sorry for these people. Now, let me just
be abundantly clear. If you're trying to escape a crap
whole country to come to this country for a better life,
I feel sorry for you if you go to all
the trouble, because all the go all the way back

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to Bill Clinton, even though Bill Clinton said, you know,
illegal immigration, and you know, going back to when Barbara Jordan,
Barbara Jordan gives a great speech when she was a
congressman from Houston. She was a precursor to oh my gosh,
how quickly we forget the congressman from Houston that was

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such a ditz uhway, It'll come to me in a minute.
Prior to her, Barbara Jordan one of the most articulate,
well spoken, well as Joe Biden would say, clean and
articulate black people. But she was she was a she
was an amazing woman, and she gave some a maate.
She did a study on immigration and came up with,

(17:16):
you know, a speech and gave a press at a
press Garment's about exactly how bad illegal immigration was, both
for the for the illegal aliens and for the country,
and it's a it's a great speech. We should play
it sometime for you. This sympathy that's being pushed upon
us is completely misplaced. Yes, I feel sorry for people who,

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from all of the policies get drawn into this country.
They see, oh I can go there and I can
get all these freebies and I can build a better Yeah.
So I understand the draw that's our fault. We've stopped that.
And now at some point when you when you turn
off the bathwater to stop the overflowing bathtub, some people

(18:04):
are gonna get caught and they're stuck in the bathtub. Well,
too bad. Sucks to be you. You should have seen
that coming because you knew what the election turnout what
or the election results work, So you should have known
we were going to stop this stuff. So while I
may feel sorry for them because they live in a
craphole country, you don't feel sorry for me because I'm

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live in a crap or work in a craphole city.
No I know, and I know just craphole city is
better than your crap hole city. But nonetheless I live
in a crap hole or work in a crap hole city.
But I can feel sorry for them and still still say,
but you can't come here.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
Good morning, Michael ke Brown or mcgual.

Speaker 5 (18:48):
So this is your goober eleven forty three from our
city the border. We had an enjoyable day yesterday when
the grandkids shooting some two twenty threes and fifty acre
land area. It's just fantastic.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
We'll do that until.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
I'm just gonna ask, what are you doing shooting two
two three in Canada? I thought that was illegal.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Maybe the north of our border here on Colorado.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
So I guess that could be. Yeah, I guess that
could be. I tend to think it's actually north of
the US border because I had a somehow oh, taxpayer
relief shots. We had several responses from listeners in Canada
about taxpayer relief shots, and particularly one where did we

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play one or.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
There was an international one? Yeah, that was Canadia, yes.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Where they were told basically that you know, the the
homeowner was indicted and not the intruder, and that that
set off everybody in canad because well set them off
because they're all pissed off about it.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah, real quick in those talkbacks, you got thirty seconds. Yeah,
it'll cut you off right, but it does not care.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yes, you got to speed it up a little bit,
speed it up, speed it up.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
And I do love the talk pack. It was great.
You spent some time with grandkids, as did I over
the weekend. So and I didn't do the shootings that
you did. But you know, we appreciate the story. But
you got thirty seconds.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yes, And it's funny you mentioned that because the minute
you started playing the talk back and I thought we're.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Not going to get through this one. I just knew
we were going to get through that one. I've been
told that I need to slow down, but I'm not
going to do it because I've got four hours. I
still need speed up. So I'm just going to keep
going as quickly as i can.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
He we're talking about kill mar Abrego Garcia KG, so
we're gonna refer to him as KAG. So let's go
through a recap of how we got to what's coming
up this week. March fifteen, he was deported El Salvador

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was initially held in the Seacock prison used by L
Salvador to detain members of MS thirteen. Nine days later,
on March twenty four, Kag's family filed the civil action
in the district of Maryland. They were seeking an order
that he be returned to the United States since his
deportation order to L Salvador was and indeed it was

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a violation of the immigration judges order that he not
be sent there. Now I emphasized not be sent there,
because there was a previous order of removal that he
be removed them from the country, just not to L. Salvador.
Now you can, if you imagine a little bit, you

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can imagine why maybe he wasn't being sent El Salvador
and the judge had done that because well, he as
is later alleged a member of MS thirteen engaged in
human trafficking, got caught. And if he goes back to
a prison that houses MS thirteen gang members and you've

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been captured by the popo and could have been you know,
interrogated or told some secrets, well you're probably gonna end
up DRT in the prison. So that's probably that's just
pure speculation on my part about why the order of
removal also had a withholding of removal to El Salvador.

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On March twenty four, as I said, they filed the
civil action in Maryland to overturn that order, seeking and
seeking that he be returned to the United States. On
April four, Judge Zenus in the District of Maryland granted
a preliminary injunction.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Cash.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
We've learned more about preliminary in junctions to temporary restraining
or orders since Trump became president that I think I
ever learned in two semesters of civil procedure. The injunction
director of the Trump administration listen closely to quote, facilitate
and effectuate close quote the return of Kag to the

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country no later than April seven. By midnight on April seven,
the Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court enters an
administrative stay on that judge's injunction. The Court confirmed that
the district court order to facilitate Tag's release from Kag's
release from custody, but ordered that the district court must

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specify what she meant when she said effectuate his return
to the US. In other words, what should the Trump administration.
You need to specify what the Trump administration needs to
do to comply with the order, because we give deference
to the executive's authority over foreign affairs and particularly over

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this area where it involves immigration. So you have a
confluence of both foreign policy and immigration, which is in
the sole jurisdiction of the federal government, specifically the administrative
branch at the administrator the executive branch. So then three
days later she amends her adjunction or injunction, she deletes

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the word effectuate and instead orders the Trump administration to
file a report. That's all, just file a report setting
forth the very specific outline the steps that you're going
to take to facilitate Kag's return to this country. That's
April tenth, May twenty one, he is indicted. Kag is

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indicted by a Tennessee grand jury for human smuggling human trafficking.
On June sixth, he makes his initial appearance in Tennessee
because by that time he's been returned to the United
States based on the arrest warrant little I mean, very
specific wording there. They didn't return him based on the

(25:12):
judge's order, but they used that always been indicted, so
we'll bringing back based on that arrest war pretty clever
maneuver there. He's held in custody of the US Marshall
and Tennessee in connection with the criminal case of human trafficking.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
On June twenty.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Second, sixteen days later, the Department of Justice motion to
detain Kag pending trial is denied.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
You have a guy who is subject to an order
of removal, he's been indicted on human traffic and humans smuggling,
and instead the judge says, yep, you know what, We're
gonna let you out.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
June twenty sec of that motion to detain him is denied.
June twenty five, the release of Kag is delayed, pending
submission of briefs by the parties. The Department of Justice
says that if he's released from custody on the criminal case,
he would he's going to be immediately taken into ICE
custody based on the previously entered notice of removal that

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I talked about earlier. Then the next day, the family
of Kag files a motion for emergency relief over in Maryland,
not Tennessee, but in Maryland, before Judge Zenas, asking her
to order that Ice not take him into custody. July
ten and eleven, they have an evidentiary hearing before Judge

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Zenas on the emergency motion. The Department of Justice attorney
tells the court that Kag will likely be removed to
a third country. If he's released from custody but does
not identify what country, there's no need to. I good
for him for not telling the judge. It's not a
he's son of the judge's business other than to say,

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your honor, we want sending back to El Salvador. There
is a withholding on the order of removal that he
can't be sent to El Salvador, and we will comply
with that. He'll need saywhere else. July twenty third, Judge
Xenis Grant's an emergency motion, and in that emergency motion,
she orders that Kag not be taking into ice custody

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if released out of custody in the Tennessee case for
human smugly. The judge orders that he be returned to
status quante prior to his March arrest as a resident
of Maryland with work authorization as imposed by an immigration
judge in Maryland. She further orders that both he and

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his attorneys be given seventy two hours notice, not including
weekends that's very special of any intention to deport him
to a third country, and that the third country he
must be identified so that Kag can assert claims a
credible fear or seek other relief available to him under
the law in the Constitution into the order August twenty second,

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today's the twenty fifth, he gets released from custody in
Tennessee on conditions that he returned to Maryland and reside
with his brother. At the time of his release, ICE
provides written notice that in no less than seventy two
hours from August twenty second, kag will be maybe deported

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to Uganda. Now, under the terms of the order from
Judge Zenus in Maryland, the removal proceedings can begin on Wednesday,
August twenty six. So what happens now? I don't mean
when Tuesday, August twenty six, So what happens now? He

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was given notice to report to the ICE office in
Baltimore today at eight a m. That's forty three minutes
ago Eastern time. He did you notice Dragan when you
were watching? Did they actually take him into custody after
the rally or not?

Speaker 2 (29:15):
I must have. I didn't see that part. I know
he was talking, but I didn't see or Okay, I'm
going to get I'm translator.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Yeah, I'm going to assume that ICE after the rally
took him into custody, and upon being taken into custody,
he is to be scheduled for a hearing to revoke
his release order before an immigration judge. Now, those immigration
proceedings might also include a notice of a hearing to

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amend his order of removal by eliminating the withholding order
as to El Salvador. In other words, they might ask
the judge, and this is a different judge than obviously
from twenty nineteen, but they might ask the current immigration judge,
would you remove the restriction on his removal to El Salvador.

(30:06):
That may or may not happen. It's quite possible that,
in fact, I would say likely that Kag's lawyers are
going to advise him to consent to that, because it
would create an alternative to the prospect for removal to
Uganda or even South Sudan. But based on the notice

(30:28):
that was given to him about the potential removal to Uganda,
I think his attorneys in Maryland are going to file
a petition for habeas corpus for habeas relief in the
District Court of Maryland before this coming Wednesday, trying to
have the matter assigned to Judge Zenis the same judge
that already blocked it and asked her again to block
his removal from the US while his habeas petition is pending.

(30:51):
They're going to great links to keep this guy in
the country. I've got one question before the break, where
was sentenced Chris man Holland from Maryland at the protest
this morning? Because I didn't hear anybody all the reporters.
I haven't heard anybody interview him. He had a margarita
with it, and yeah, you didn't show up for the rally?

(31:14):
What a dirt bike?

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Senator Michael Brown, Come on, he really wanted us to
collapse sooner. He vote for Phil Wiser, not from Michael Bennett.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
Duh oh.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
So now we're gonna play dumb and dumber. We're gonna
try I figuret which one is really dumber.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
Than the other? You want?

Speaker 3 (31:31):
You want to go down that path? Come on, challenge accepted.
Let's let's put them side by side. Well, you know,
they they both just look dumb. Can I Can I
be crass and just say they both just looked like
a couple of dufices and they both sound like dufuses.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
You know, pot calling the kettle black over here? What
you all?

Speaker 4 (31:57):
I am a I uh.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Standing specimen of the male's side of the human species,
better much so now than you were twenty years ago.
You know, bite my ass, just bite my ass.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
True, well, true, I had some hair, you know. I God,
I hate I need to go back to advanced hair
and have them to the backside of my head.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Now it was darker then too, But your face is
a lot fatter.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Yeah, trust me. I wasn'tywhere near what you were. But yes,
I was overweight.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
I can make funn of it because fat.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
That's right, you know. I talked about that on the
Saturday program. But how we can't I went through this
whole segment on fat shaming and how despite the fact
that it's it's actually obesity is defined as you know,
it's a medical condition because it's all sorts of problems.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
You die very early from it, as you well know.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
But you you can't say fat, Sure you can, well
you can, but people are gonna be offended.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
I don't care. It's not like they didn't know they
were fat.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
And then, you know, I watched the most. I'll get
to back to KG after the break because now he's
got me off on something else.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Sorry, sorry, you will love this.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
Netflix has a documentary about.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Remember the Biggest Loser?

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Yes, have you seen that?

Speaker 2 (33:21):
I haven't watched you. I'm waiting to sit down with
Missus Redbeard and watch it.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
Really crap Ola Dragon Binge watching.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Because I mean, it's it's obviously post mortem about all
the things they did wrong and how they mistreated those contestants,
and how those contestants have all, unlike you, gone back
to their previous weight, if not even worse than their
previous weight, and the things they did behind the scenes. Crap,

(33:52):
that's that's well. I'm sure there were lawsuits, and there
should have been lawsuits, and NBC was making hundreds of
millions of dollars. Yeh off those people. It's ali. Yes,
you and Missus Redbeard have got to watch it. You'll
be furious about the way they're treated, and then you'll

(34:13):
be furious about their whole approach.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
But I don't weight loss compared to your approach to
weight loss.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
But I'm not going to be shocked by it, because
the only way somebody can lose that much in that
short amount of time is extremely drastic ways and is.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Very dangerous and in one case, except for extraordinary life
saving procedures. She was essentially dead. They just they just
were able to revive her. Yeah, and then you think
about the motivation for her to get to for her
to abuse herself that way, because she's so desperately wanted

(34:52):
to change her life from you know, being so obese,
and she thought that was the only way to do it.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
That was her only motivation to get it done. That
was I mean, it was.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
It was incredibly sad at the same time. Yeah, the
Biggest Loser. If we don't normally do documentary reviews, but
that's one you really should go watch because it shows
you just how horrible the cabal is.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
They're horrible.