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August 26, 2025 • 33 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Michael.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
What you know how the Democrats always celebrate thieves and say, well,
the thieves needed it more than the person they stole
it from. Well, the colonizers needed the land more than
the Indians.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Don't you, Michael?

Speaker 4 (00:17):
I was born on American soil. You were more non
American soil, Dragon was? Does that make us native Americans?

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yes? But the term Native Americans applied to Indians is
actually a misnomer in my opinion, because that's a backhanded
acknowledgment that we are the conquerors and we're not. We
just did what every other civilization does. We just moved
and expanded and grew, grew, and so I just don't

(00:55):
I just don't like the phrase native American. It's to
your point. I am a Native American who happens to
have art Cherokee Indian in me, and I'm not Pocahontas either.
I'm legit legitimately am What was the what was the

(01:18):
first one? Dragon? First? Talk back, Michael.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
You know how the Democrats always celebrate thieves and say, well,
the thiefs.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
Needed it more than the person they stole it from.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Well, the colonizers needed the land more than the Indians.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yes, and and every again, every civilization. And by civilization
I mean like you know, groups of people and they
they always move and they grow and expand.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
What do we do?

Speaker 3 (01:53):
What? What? What if we finally get to Mars? Are
we conquerors? Do we conquer Mars? And what if we
find out there are little green men on Mars? What
are we gonna do? Then?

Speaker 5 (02:02):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Never mind. We spent you know, trillions of dollars trying
to get here so we could colonize this place. But oopsie,
never mind, We'll go on somewhere else. It's insane.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Many years ago, when I worked downstairs in the Fox,
we had an interview with a Ted Nugent and he
got off onto a little bit of a tangent about
this because some of the Native Americans and Indians were.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
Saying that they want their land back.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
And his whole thing was like, you can't have it
because the roads are already built, the infant structure is
already there, We've improved it.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
You want it back now, after we've done all this
work to it.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yes, let's have an appraisal done and we'll gladly sell
it to you for the appraisal value. Of course, knowing
how stupid. The government is the US government. We give
them the money to buy it back from our exactly
what we would do, yes, and then they tax you
and me at a higher tax rate to cover that. Oh.

(03:01):
I took the dogs out yesterday, And in fact, the older,
the the o g Lianburger, the original Limburger, is getting
a little a little testy about the heat, and yesterday
I had to put the leash on her. Now the
younger one, whom I'm beginning to believe is on the spectrum.

(03:22):
I think she's a little artistic, she's a little wacko.
She's a teenage dog. She was like, okay, let's go,
come on, let's go. The older dog was like, it's
been hot and I'm not in the mood to go
out in the heat. And I'm like, I'm talking to
her as if she understands me. Look, it's it's.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
Only sixty quickly.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
For those that don't know, Lienburger's are big hairy, husky
type dog. Now they're not huskies, but they're.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
They're large and big bones and type dogs. They look
like from the front, they looked like either a bear
or a lion, depending on how.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
That beautiful beautiful dogs.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Thank you. You can. You can go to Instagram and
see Greta the Lienburger. She has her own Instagram page
which I have. How often does she post? I have
woefully ignored that page. Uh, maybe that's what she was
pissed off about yesterday. She wouldn't move put the put
the leash on, launched it onto a collar, kind of
gave it a tug, and she just planned. She just

(04:19):
plopped down. She did the dead dead fish thing. So
then I took her by the collar, got under stand up.
She just refused to go until I finally dragged her
ass out into the garage and then she was like, oh,
it's kind of nice out, Okay, let's go walk. So
we went walking. The heat is over temporarily probably, do

(04:45):
you remember. And we had a text. Look, we had
a text message a day or two ago about we
were going to have lower than average temperatures and nobody
was calling for you whether alert day. And here we
are now. Now it's not quite as foggy as it
was earlier, but earlier it was quite foggy out and
it's overcast and we're supposed to have rain again today.

(05:08):
Well did the co two go away. What happened here?
Because if more CO two, which is what you know
the SUPA governor in Colorado and California all the other
dumbass states, if they're trying to get to that zero
because CO two equals more deadly heat, then why are

(05:29):
our hottest days stuck back in the dust bowl era?
While alarmists hype those member of the airport thermometers that
were being blasted by the jets in Tampa, Saint Pete
and Phoenix and other places, Well, it's because we're told
there's a simple rule, and that rule is simply five words.

(05:54):
More CO two means more heat. More CO two means
more heat. Now have you ever thought about that? Because
if that rule is true, then the steady rise in
CO two, including the biggest jump on record during the
twenty twenties, surely gives us a steady temperature rise. That story,

(06:20):
that rule, and the stories that emanate from that rule
is the engine, the fuel that keeps the money moving,
That keeps the money flowing. Because all these agencies, all
these governments, all the universities, the cabal, the media partners,
all the climate nonprofits, those NGOs are all dependent upon

(06:42):
what a constant sense of emergency. Keep everybody's blood pressure up,
keep everybody alert. I don't know what made me think
about this yesterday, but I was thinking that, Okay, so
I'm in the final third of my life. If you
divide your life up by thirds, so you got the

(07:02):
first third, second third, and third third. And I'm in
that third third. And I'm thinking, I've kind of seen
this weather pattern before. I've lived in Colorado long enough,
you know, several decades that I kind of see these
patterns come and go. But then I thought, and I
don't know why, but I thought about my grandkids, and
then I thought about even younger rugrats and Tammers told

(07:24):
me before that she's had kids who truly do have
climate anxiety. They're scared to death that they're going to
burn up or freeze to death. I thought, Holy God,
who wants to live like that? Well, they wouldn't live
like that because the money keeps flowing. They keep us
all on edge, and that keeps us all in a
sense of emergency. If if everyone, if the public, ever

(07:47):
saw the trend as well, maybe it's more nuanced, maybe
it's more complicated, maybe it's mixed. Well, the crisis would fade,
and then we then the budgets would go away too.
Just as we have the homeless industrial complex, we have
the climate industrial complex too, and that's those agencies, those

(08:09):
the universities of the media, the nonprofits, They thrive on
that perpetual panic. Admit, come on, admit that this country
has fewer scorching days. I love you the word scorching
because that's the word we hear on the weather reports.
If you admit, or come on, do admit that we

(08:30):
have fewer scorching days despite record CO two spikes. And
guess what, those trillion dollar budgets are going to disappear
because the entire premise falls apart. Now, the very basic
greenhouse idea is real CO two slows how fast the

(08:54):
planet can cool to outer space. But the step from
that simple idea is how making a claim that every
place must see steadily rising daytime heat. That's where the
story kind of runs into just oh, observations, not modeling,
not theory, but simple observations. And in Earth's deep history,

(09:23):
CO two fluctuations increases decreases, or heat increases and decreases
don't move any in any sort of lockstep in preparing
the notes for this, I came across something which I
don't know. Maybe some of you people know about it.
I didn't know about it. Something called the Andean Saharan glaciation. Well,

(09:47):
that froze the planet with CO two levels that are
ten times today's levels. And you can find figures that
show high CO two two often meant ice ages. How
could that possibly be. We're told that we're warming and
we're all gonna burn up because they're rising CO two levels,

(10:10):
and we've got to redo CO two net zero. We
got to get to that zero by twenty fifty or
we're gonna die. But this and d n Saharan glaciation
froze the planet with CO two levels were ten times
the level of today's levels. Hmm, how is that? How

(10:33):
can that possibly be today's record CO two jumps, which
was three point six parts per million this year alone
so far the second largest META may increase in the
sixty seven year record. Well, that should be scorching us,
shouldn't it. But it's not because CO two follows temperature.

(10:59):
CO two doesn't lead the temperature. I had never thought
about it that way until I started digging into this
story last week. And that is CO two follows temperature.
It doesn't lead the temperature. Now, you don't need to
accept any of that to follow the argument here. All

(11:21):
we have to do is or look at measurements inside
this country. Now, all the reporters, all the cabal, including
the government institutions, will tell you that the country is
getting hotter. Saturday, May thirty, first, USA Today headline Summer
twenty twenty five forecast calls for overwhelmingly above normal heat

(11:45):
starting in June. I'm a bugaboo about language overwhelmingly above normal. Yeah,
we went through several days of Oh, we were told
tomorrow the record is one hundred and two. I think
we're not gonna make it. We're only gonna get to
ninety seven. Is that overwhelming in August? I don't find it.

(12:08):
I didn't find anything over the past several weeks, and
at least.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
For me to be overwhelming, well, just for funzis here.
Denver has has hit over one hundred degrees zero times.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
So far this year.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
In twenty twenty five, we did hit one hundred, but
that was only once.

Speaker 5 (12:24):
And that was in July.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Do you have any I don't think these are my notes.
Do you have anything about how many times we reached
or beat a record to high temperature this summer.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Oh, beating the I did no, I do not. I
did not look at any of that.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Can you just google that or something and see if
there's if there's anything locally about how many times we
broke a record in Denver. So anyway, well, while Redbeard's
looking up that, let's go back to September of last year. Noah,
in one of their reports, US sweltered through its fourth
hottest summer on record in tenths. He broke multiple records

(13:01):
across the nation. Let's Noah. Interestingly, at the same time,
remember when we talked about the National Climate Assessment that
came out. That National Climate Assessment, when you dig into
it shows fewer hot days out or above ninety five
degrees across most of the country. And then the EPA,

(13:23):
they have a heat wave index, shows the worst American
heat waves are when the nineteen thirties. If you go
to EPA dot gov slash Climate Dash Indicators, you'll find
the chart the heat Wave Index US Annual Heatwave Index
eighteen ninety five to twenty twenty one, and over here

(13:49):
on the heat wave Index, which goes from zero to
one point four, it remains virtually steady at about zero
point two, kind of bounces up and down between zero
and zero point two, and then between nineteen thirty and
then nineteen thirty nine the spikes all the way to
one point four, and going all the way through twenty

(14:11):
twenty one, it never again or does just barely get
above zero point two. Chris Marts. If you don't follow
Chris Mars over on X, you really ought to follow
Chris Marx. He did a reconstruction of very hot days
from the historical station network. It shows the exact same story,

(14:33):
with a peak around the middle of the last century
and then mostly almost always smaller values in recent decades.
In fact, if I were to take the two charts
and overlay them, there are of course there are always spikes,
because you'll just have anomalies. Everything has an anomaly, and
the anomaly occurred. Let's see, if I get nineteen eighty,

(14:55):
there was an anomaly where the percent of days very
hot days, the percent jumped up to about four percent,
and then it goes right back down to between one
and two percent, and then back in about twenty ten
to jumped up again to slightly less than four percent.
So there are from from eighteen ninety five to twenty

(15:16):
twenty three, I count one, two, three, four, five spikes,
five spikes. So what does that turn out? If you
calculate that out, the national average temperature is higher today
than it was fifty years ago. But that seems contradictory

(15:38):
until you look at what's changed. And here's where I
found something that was pretty interesting. The Knights have warned.
So these daytime temperatures have fewer spikes. I mean, there's
still the four spikes I told you between eighteen ninety
five and twenty twenty three, but the knights have worn.

(15:58):
So think about what an average means. If you combine
a daytime high and a nighttime low, you get the
daily mean. Now, if the nights are creeping up while
the day temperature stays on average about the same, the
mean rises, even if you're not getting more brutal afternoon

(16:20):
daytime heat. You can go look again at the National
Climate Assessment and the maps tell that exact same story.
Noah's own maps that separate summer minimums from summer maximums
show broad increases in the minimums and week changes in

(16:41):
the maximums, which means that some regions are showing flatter,
slightly lower daytime highs over a longer period of time. So,
in other words, we have fewer freezes and warmer nights. Well,
if you have fewer freezes but you have warmer nights,
that pushes up the average. And I know because I

(17:05):
at this point, I'm asking myself the same question, why
are the knights warm and faster than the days? Have
you ever thought about that if indeed the nighttime average
is slightly warmer when you when you stop, it's like
one of those stupid quizzes they always have on Facebook

(17:26):
or X or you know, in a magazine somewhere, and
it's kind of a trick question. But then when you
hear the answer, you go, oh, says them, Well, of
course that makes absolute sense. Why would nights on average
be warmer lately than the days. It doesn't mean that
it's hotter than the days. It's just that the knights

(17:48):
are staying warmer than the days are getting these record temperatures.
It's a really simple answer.

Speaker 6 (17:59):
Mike from South Dakota, actually the Black Hills of South Dakota,
the disputed land with the Native American immigrants. Oh yeah,
why do I call them Native American immigrants because they
happened to immigrate here about seventeen thousand years before the
White Man, and they immigrated here because, oh there was

(18:22):
nothing here prior to them coming here.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Well, the dinosaurs were here, Well, the great desert was here.
There was all of that. So dragon, you, I gave
you a research project.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
You did you want to know how many times Denver
had broken a record so far this year?

Speaker 3 (18:41):
So far this year, And my guess was twice.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
You'd be wrong.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
So I can go one of two directions. I can
go up right and go down like, go sideways and
just say, well, you're wrong. It's two. I decided it
was sto and it's too so screw you.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Only one, only one one April twelfth, the Denver. April
April twelfth, den was the record very high temperature of
eighty six degree.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Oh my god, I can't believe you are still alive.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
Broke the record by a single degree.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Eighty five to eighty six. Yep, Oh well, no wonder
you and are kind of brain dead. We we went
through that day, not even do you know what day
of the week that was? No idea. Oh man, how
did we ever ever survive it? Why? Would the nights
warm faster than day? It was a Saturday. It was

(19:38):
a Saturday.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
Saturday.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah, you're probably out shoveling snow off your driveway or something.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
In April.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
You could have been, and it was snowing that morning,
and by the afternoon it broke a record. It went
from eighty five to eighty six degrees. It's called Colorado. Yep, yep.
Before we do, would why would knights warm fast than days?
Some of you smartasses on the text line have already
guessed why, But many of you have raised other really

(20:09):
good points that I want to share. Five seven four three.
We have a super drought every one hundred years. Two
hundred years ago, this seven long expedition determined that it
never rains in the middle of the continent. Think in
terms of the Louisiana purchase. He named it the Great
American Desert. One hundred years ago we had a dust bowl.

(20:34):
We are just now coming out of a twenty year
super drought, so we're probably we will begin seeing more
precipitation for the next approximately eighty years. No matter what
the weather does, humans always adapt. Isn't amazing that humans
have existed for so many centuries and yet the weather

(20:57):
and the climate has changed and have survived, and now
we're claiming that we won't survive despite the amazing advances
in technology, things like stupid things like air conditioning, which
brings me to goober number zero nine four two. I
don't know the answer to your question, which a really

(21:19):
good question, Michael. You reminded me of the news from
last week. Schools were closed because of heat and a
lack of air conditioners. But as I recall, a boatload
of money was provided to the school systems throughout the
country for quote air handling systems during the COVID era.

(21:41):
Wouldn't that have been in part, if not in whole,
included AC air conditioning. So was the money Pilford and squander?
Am I missing the mark and speaking about what I
know factually nothing about. Thank you for your attention to
this matter. Welcome. It means he's serious. It means he's serious.

(22:03):
That means pay attention, Bucko, I am paying attention. I
don't know the answer to it. I do remember it
was for air filtration, but whether that money could have
been used or was used for air conditioning, or maybe
it was used for consultants, because before you can put
air conditioning in, You've got to hire a consultant to
look at it, an HVAC specialist to come in and

(22:24):
analyze it, and then you spend all your money on consultants.
So I don't know. I don't know. Back to the
question at hand, why would nights warm faster than days?
Because cities and suburbs hold heat. Concrete, brick, asphalt, they

(22:49):
all absorb energy during the day and then it releases
after sunset. Buildings block wind and therefore reduce ventilation. You
have waste heat from traffic air conditioners. Have you ever
got you understand the concept of air conditioning? Right? You

(23:16):
take the heat out of the air, do you run
it through your condenser? It gets cooled and then pumped
back into your house. You've removed the heat. Yeah, I
guess you could say you've cooled the air, but you've
removed the heat. The reason I like to say you've
removed the heat. The next time your condenser outdoors is

(23:36):
going full force, go stand next to it and feel
that hot air, and then listen to the nice hum
of all your neighbors condensers running, and think about how
you should be a Excel Energy stockholder. Because they're making
a boatload of money off all of that electricity, you're

(23:58):
consuming waste heat from the traffic, air conditioners, even airlines
add to the mix, and those effects raise minimum temperatures
far more than they raise the hottest part of the afternoon.
The urban heat island effect. It is strongest exactly where

(24:22):
most of the temperature gauges are located. And for example,
if they're not located in downtown Denver, which we still
have a gauge in downtown Denver, but if the official
gauge is at the end of a runway in the
middle of Denver International Airport, the largest geographical airport in
the in the country and I think now the country's

(24:45):
third busiest and I think in the world's top ten
busiest airports, YEP, adds an awful lot of heat. So
it's exactly where the thermometers are most mostly located. And
of course then that's going to end increase as we
develop and grow out around the once rural stations. So

(25:06):
here's my solution. Stop growing. This is what the radical
environmentalists want us to do. This is what all the
activists in the Church of the Climate congred gets in
the Church of the climate activists want us to do.
They want us to go back to caveman days. They
probably don't even wan us to build a fire because

(25:26):
that fire is going to put off smoke and that's
going to you know, that's going to increase, you know,
pollution in the air. Once I began to see the
role of night time heat averages increasing, then a lot
of the recent messaging by the cabal really does kind
of start to make sense. When the data for scorching

(25:49):
afternoons don't cooperate, well, what do you do if you're
a member of the church of the climate activists? You
try to find new metrics that have very short history,
So they lean on feels like numbers, wet bulb thresholds,
model modeling products that did not exist during the dustible era.

(26:11):
Those tools really do have a lot of uses, but
the problem is they cannot be honestly compared to the
nineteen thirties. In the meantime, you got some high profile
records that come from sensors that are placing the bad locations.
We talked about Tampa, we talked about Phoenix. So if
you've ever wondered how we can have fewer very hot

(26:34):
days in a lot of regions around the country, while
the national average moves up being go there's your answer.
Warm nights, fewer cold days lift the mean average temperature. Now,
that has consequences for energy demand and for agriculture, but
it is not the same thing as a surgeon deadly
afternoon extremes. The observations inside this country do not show

(27:00):
a nationwide rise or increase in the most intense hot afternoons.
Go to the EPA's own climate assessment. It admits as
much in its own figures. I'm just and I think

(27:21):
maybe it's beginning to wane a little bit. But I
really am tired of all the alarmism, and I really
am just thinking, if the sea levels go up and
go down, then maybe we have to learn to mitigate
against that. Maybe we ought to build more sea walls.

(27:42):
Maybe we ought to have more flood control systems. Maybe
what we ought to do is if we're going to
build levies around the city like New Orleans, maybe we
ought to actually engineer them correctly so that they don't
breach during hurricane. We can adapt. Mankind has always adapted.

(28:03):
People live in Greenland, people live in Iceland, they live
in Norway, I've been in Norway, in Finland, I've been
into the upper reaches inside the Arctic Circle in Canada
now in the Nordic countries in the wintertime, and it's
dan Cole. Above the Arctic Circle in Canada in the summertime,

(28:26):
it's nice, it's actually kind of nice. Same it's true
for Alaska, although in Alaska I've I've not been above
the Arctic Arctic Circle. So can we all just take
a deep breath and recognize that, Oh, it's hot out,
it's August. Oh, it's August. It's cool out. Huh, it's
the weather.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
Hi, Michael, don't forget that the caveman also.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Burned dry dumb. In fact, they probably burned more than that.
Then they did would burned dun just a hunk, a
hunk of burn and done. That's all it is. Now,
I know that gross domestic product is not everything. It
measures income, how much we earn, how much we produce,

(29:13):
but it leads out an awful lot the value of
you know, free or nearly free goods if there are
any well, clean air, clean water, good health, long life,
an egalitarian society. But all of those things are actually
better when GDP is better and those things are worse
when GDP is worse. Productive people can afford nice things.

(29:39):
Productive people have nice things like a well, a half
assed studio, but you know, studios got some blinds at
work that or a computer that sometimes works and doesn't work.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
News carts that are updated, news.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Carts that are updated when they're supposed to be updated.
But you know, maybe maybe our GDP is not that great.
The welfare state that we live in is much more
generous than those of poor countries or what even what
ours was in nineteen forty or nineteen fifty. So GDP
is imperfect, but it understates the benefits of economic progress. Well,

(30:14):
what's my point, costs and benefits. That's useful to analyze
whether some of the trillions of dollars that we spend
in our collective GDP should be spent on environmental issues,
like let's reduce the national temperature. Species extinction some people claim,

(30:39):
and I haven't fully fleshed this out, but some people
claim that we're in the middle of a mass extinction,
and for example, elephants, they're going to die from a
lack of land, They're going to die from poaching. We're
doing what we can about poaching, But there's not really
a whole lot we can do some and not a
whole lot we can do about the lack of land

(31:00):
elephants to thrive and grow and reproduce on. So for
a trillion dollars out of our GDP, how much land
could we buy and turn over to complete wilderness for
the elephants, or if we want to reduce if we

(31:23):
want to get First of all, forget the net zero
net zero emission. I mean, that's just a stupid Marxist
idea meant to control everything about how you live, how
you transport, how you eat, everything. It's just a control issue.
But if we really did want to reduce the urban

(31:44):
heat effect, how many trillions of dollars would it take
to buy up and spread out businesses all over the
state of Colorado, taking up, you know, the eastern planes
and the western slope so that we could kind of
eliminate the urban heat index so that those average temperatures
would come down and we wouldn't have this problem anymore.

(32:06):
The point is that the cabal goes out there and
blets all the time about climate change and how disastrous
it it is. But the actual way to if you
want to reduce these naturally occurring cycles. Then the elephants

(32:30):
or whatever animal is close to extinction or eliminating urban
heat in disease. How much land do you want to
buy up and turn it into you know, just have
an office building way out, you know, sixty miles out
in the middle of nowhere, which, by the way, how

(32:50):
are you going to get to that office building? Or
I mean we adapt and sometimes adaptation means as as
poor countries where these primarily where these elephants live. If
you don't think they want air conditioning, better water, more food,
if they want to grow and prosper, well, that may

(33:12):
mean that elephants die off to a point where you've
got this to decide. What's the trade off? Do I
want to save a certain number of elephants or do
I want elephants to grow and prosper or grow and
prosper just in a limited area. All of that costs money,
and so what do we must spend our money on. Well,

(33:35):
I'd rather spend my money on mitigating, like having a
more efficient air conditioner than I would trying to get
to that zero by not having any air conditioning and
just relying on a window fan. Yeah, giving my central
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