8-6-25 - 8am - Gaza & Israel

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
With respect to the redistricting and reapportioning. I wonder how
that would apply to elon Omar and her district. Maybe
she wouldn't be a congress person anymore.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
A boy can dream, Kenny, except I'm really schizophrenic when
it comes like elon Omar, Alexandria, Cossi, Cortees, you know,
Jaya Paul.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Whoever this new one is?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
The new one that is apparently from Guatemala, was down
at some congress in Mexico City in which she wanted
to speak as a proud Guatemalan and how bad this
country was. So she goes to a foreign cap of
Olan talks and detigrates her own country.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
That took her in. She got elected to Congress, and.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
She you know, why don't you go home and fix
your own country. But then, on the other hand, they
do serve as useful those useful idiots serve as useful
reminders about how precarious this republic is and what it
takes to preserve it. You've got to defend it against

(01:16):
idiots like that. All the time. I said earlier, I
wanted to talk about or maybe I told Dragon this.
I wanted to talk about Hamas and I want to
talk about what's going on in Gaza in Israel right now,
because Israel is probably facing one of the biggest battles
for its survival that it's ever faced. And I'm not

(01:37):
talking about a military battle. Based on my experience in Israel.
Been there several times. I've spoken at Herzliya University, I've
been with net and Yahoo. We've I've been to the
Gaza Strip and I got kind of chewed out one

(02:00):
time by a general. I know, I've told you the
story before about Nat and Yah who was in the
middle of a campaign and a rocket had been launched
out of Gaza and had landed not far from where
he was holding a rally. So his entire entourage and
the group that had me we all ran to that

(02:20):
place where that rocket had landed. And Nat y'all, you know,
was giving a campaign speech and late one of the
things that was pointed out to me almost incessantly, was
look at this building, or you know, look at this business,

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look at this apartment, look at this home. Last week
this was this wall was completely blown out, and you
know we fixed it and we you know, this is
what we do all the time. And I kept thinking
to myself, why do you fix it so rapidly. Let's
let the world media see what Hamas is doing, let

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them see what the so called Palestinians are doing. And
I casually made a comment like that during my speech,
and this general came up to me afterwards and said,
especially called me a naive son of a bitch. Not
quite that crude, but my guess is that's probably what
was in his head. And he and his point that

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he made was actually a great point that no matter
what they do, the world media is still against them.
So the New York Times, the La Times, they will
all continue to detegrate us and call us the bad guys.
Whether we let them see everything, or we fix it immediately,

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or what it does. He says, it doesn't make any difference.
And as soon as I understand that, better off I'll be.
And he's right, he is absolutely right. Well over the
past I don't know, maybe a week or so, the
images coming out of Gaza and Israel are amazingly powerful.

(04:17):
It is I will invoke the Holocaust. It is almost
as if we are living in the midst of a
Holocaust and we are witnessing it. Except what I'm witnessing
is not what say, for example, the New York Times
or the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom Keir Starmer,

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or the President of France Emanuel Macrone, or the Prime
Minister of Canada Mark Carney, is trying to get me
to believe is the Holocaust. They want me to believe
that Israel is the one that is committing genocide. Holoco
is creating a holocaust inside the Gaza strip. No, those

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are not images I'm talking about. In fact, I watched
a video yesterday that someone had done an amazing forensic
analysis on as one of the AID groups was trying
to distribute aid. They took it frame by frame, showed
in some sort of I don't know how they did it,
but they say in some computer program they took that

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same image and showed how it was taken from different angles.
And when you zoom out and you see the entire frame,
you get an entirely different point of view of what's
going on in terms of the distribution of aid. And
then of course we had the release of and I
apologize to the family. Oh it's I've got up my

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notes here, avatar David.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Don't mean to mispronounce the name Eva tar Avatar. He's
the twenty four year old who's now being in cact
captivity more than six hundreds probably now probably any close
to six hundred and seventy days. And we saw yesterday

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when the Foreign Minister spoke to the United Nations and
then he went on well before that, he went on
to one of the Fox News programs showed the photographs,
and then the brother had taped a speech that was
played to the United Nations Security Council in which they

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also showed the photographs. And I swear it looked exactly
as if I were looking at the videos that Eisenhower
mandated that the troops take of the concentration camps so
that the world would see what the Allies were seeing

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as they liberated of those camps. And in one of
the videos, he was being forced to dig his own grave.
The images are powerful, and also we see the emsiated
children from Gaza. They've been shared across you know, every
social media and news outlet you could possibly find. But

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I mentioned France, Britain and Canada because those three dirt
bag countries have shockingly taking steps toward the recognition of
a Palestinian statehood. So now we are faced with what's

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the truth? Do we have any moral clarity? Can we
nuance this at all? In the war between Israel and
hamas Israel is the good guy? That's an essential truth.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Am I a Zionist?

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, you could probably label me as a Zionist, but
I have purposely and deliberately, as if I were preparing
a brief for an appellate court brief, I have deliberately
looked at the other side's perspective to make certain that

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what I say is not just my full throated support
for Israel. So let me say this, we are being manipulated.
What we are seeing is being curated, and we're being

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deluged with all of these images. And then you have
and I think that Keir Starmer, the UK, Macrone of France,
Carneia of Cana are capitulating to it. They are succumbing
to the manipulation. And they're doing that because they don't
want to be seen on the side. They have now

(09:13):
gotten to the point where they can no longer fend
off the bull crap that is being force fed to
us by the Cabal, because they are determined that this
hatred of Israel is absolutely irrational. Give you the example
that I casually mentioned earlier in the week, the article

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in the New York Times that featured a at face
value and regardless of the truth behind it, it's still
a heartbreaking photograph, a mother holding a skeletal child Muhammad.
That picture was used deliberately to shape opinion and drove

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people all were the world to take action. Then we
find out when other reporters start digging into it, that
Muhammad's appearance, his skeletal appearance was not because of starvation,
but because of cerebral palsy, a fact that was omitted
initially and then clarified after the public outcry. No retraction,

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just an editor's note. You have to ask yourself why
did the Why did the New York Times.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Miss that detail? And then how many stories you got
you had?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
You must ask yourself how many other stories have been
shaped or warped by manipulated photography for that for that matter,
manipulated language, manipulated reporting. And of course this is this
isn't the first time. Remember when the war first started,

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I shouldn't say that it was no the war been
going on for a while, I think anyway. It was
the explosion at the hospital, and we were told that
I don't know, five hundred innocent people were killed by
Israel that month by that one bomb. Well we find
out again later that a smaller number perished, but the
tragedy was caused not by Israel but by a misfired

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rocket from Gaza itself. But again the narrative gets embedded
in people's brain and then dominates the global discussion, and
that becomes what everybody believes, even though we know for
a fact that the Israelis did not bomb that hospital.

(11:42):
A rocket out of Gaza that was, you know, probably
not put together properly, or there was something wrong with it,
just bloom blew up a hospital.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
That is not.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
A mistake. That is manipul That is weaponization of news
to manipulate your opinion. And it's being directed by Hamas
and it's also being directed by all of those useful
idiots that want to destroy Israel from the river to

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the sea.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
And the.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Battle is right now in the American public and on
Israeli soil. Now Again, to be objective, have innocent people
died in this war?

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I started out this program today about the bombing of Hiroshima,
in which innocent people were killed by the United States
of America in order to bring a quicker end to
the war, to save lives, millions of lives versus the
one hundred and forty thousand or so that were killed

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in the bombing.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
It's a brutal world.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
But what's going on right now is a almost imperceptible
shift where I begin to detect that the world is
turning on Israel. That's exactly what Hamas wants. They'll continue
to starve their people, They'll continue to lob rockets, they

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will continue to hold hostages, They'll do all of this.
The word genocide has now entered the discussion. You ever
thought about what genocide is?

Speaker 3 (13:51):
It's kind of like.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Nazi, Holocaust, Fascism gets thrown around a lot without really
actually applying to what the topic at hand is. Genocide
is a wilful destruction of a group of people, generally
for either a political purpose or a religious purpose. Now,

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Hamas claims that sixty thousand Palestinians have been killed in
since the beginning of the war. Israel says that twenty
thousand of those are Hamas terrorists. Now, even if we
accept the highest figures, that's three percent of Gaza's population.
That's a tragedy, that's a war. That's not genocide because

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when you look at the history of genocides, the perpetrators
actually kill the vast majority of their targeted populations. If
Israel wanted to, Israel could flatten gauze it today, absolutely
just flatten it. They could kill everyone, not a living soul. Oh,

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maybe maybe a few survivors here or there in the rubble.
But they could flatten gods if they wanted to. But
they have not. What Israel is doing is targeting Hamas.
They're the ones that started the war. They're the ones
that hold the hostages. They're the ones that keep putting

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in unreasonable demands for negotiations. They're the ones that say, well,
if you, if you, if you do X, Y and Z,
then we might release a couple of hostages. And of
course I understand. I have put myself in the position
of the Israelis too, and I understand that they will
do anything that they can, including and exchanging hundreds, you know,
a completely disproportionate number of Hamas terrors in exchange for

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one Israeli Jew.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
And I understand that I disagree with it, but I
understand it. So we can oppose, as I do, some
of their things that they negotiate, some of the things
they agree to. We can even disagree with some of
their tactics that they use. But this is a righteous cause,
an absolute righteous cause. Can you know what Israel wants

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to do? If you if you ever have the opportunity,
not just for religious purposes, but if you ever have
the opportunists you divisit the Middle East? Yeah, go to Egypt,
or go to Abba Dabi, or go to Dubai, go
to Mecca. But if you are going to do that,

(16:32):
go to Israel, go to Jerusalem and see that those people.
It's not a it's not a monolithic country. Israel is
not one hundred percent it's a Jewish state. Yes, the
population is not one hundred percent Jewish. You'll find all races.

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You'll find all people from all countries all over the
world living in Israel. You'll find Arabs living in Israel.
Israel is not the villain in this war. The villain
is a moss And I think our lack of moral
clarity and our abdication of critical thinking, and our willingness

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to just sit like they called it, you know, you
know what it's called a boob tube, right, because you
latch onto it like a mother's breast and just you
feed yourself. Well, don't let the boob tube manipulate your mind,
because that's what's going on. And mister speaking, if they

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want to occupy Gaza, Trump has said, fine with him.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
It's fine with me too, Michael, assuming country clearances are
in order, you cruise in twour me some Israel, and
I am right there with you.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
If particularly you wouldn't that be interesting? Dragon, three of
us go to Israel together.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
What it would be you and him. Israel sounds great,
but with you and him.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Okay, we'll take missus Redbeard with us.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
She'll go yeah, yeah, they can think of that's probably
the better option.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
She likes you, and I'm sure she'll enjoy you know,
your dad's company.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah yeah, all right, never mind. So so back to.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
For example, the story is about the hospital or the
photograph that's not really a starving child, but a child
that has a medical condition. That's not a mistake. That
is propaganda. It's purpose. It's done on purpose. It's weaponizing

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information from Gaza, from Hamas out to the Western world.
And you can make your own judgment whether you think
and I'll just continue to pick on the New York
Times because they seem to be the absolute worst defender.
You can make your own mind, whether it's on purpose

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or it's just really lousy broken journalism. But the less
skeptical that Western the Western world, Western civilization, the less
skeptical that Western civilization journalism becomes. That means the more

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that groups like Hamas can manipulate and prolong the distortion.
And when they manipulate and prolong the distortion, that's when
someone like Emmanuel McCrone comes along, along with Keir Starmer
and Mark Karne. Don't let me leave them out because
they're apparently you fel idiots too. That's when it allows

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them to become foils if you will.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
For Hamas.

Speaker 5 (20:10):
And recently, while while we're watching all of these layers unfold,
the leaders of France and the UK so they intend
to recognize the palace in Thean state. And then following
that news.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Have you ever thought about how stupid even thinking or
talking about a you know, a two state solution is
in the middle of a war. Well, they're holding hostages
while they're starving the their own people that's a non starter.
You want to talk about that, disband, let us jail

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as many of you as we can, let us kill
as many of you can, quite frankly, and then we'll
let the gods and people decide, which I think is
the way. Netanyahu has reached the point where it's just like,
you know what, we're just going to take control anyway.
So back to CNN, we.

Speaker 5 (20:59):
Saw him released that horrific video that we were just
showing of this emaciated hostage, hostage digging his own grave,
indicating again you say in your piece that Hamas has
no intent of agreeing to a deal right now. What
is that? What's happening in Europe, what we're hearing from
some of these leaders, How does that affect any of
these negotiations that might be ongoing.

Speaker 6 (21:22):
I know from my experience Hamas reacts to pop international
opinion and what these other leaders say. And I thought
that Macrone initiative it might be well intended. It made
stopping the war much harder.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Absolutely it did, because now you're giving Hamas exactly what they.

Speaker 6 (21:45):
Want, because Hamas now has no incentive to stop the war.
They want to see that recognition of a Palestinian state. Again,
that's not their endgame. They see a Palestinian state as
a stepping stone to eliminating Israel. But Hamas has come
out and said, this Macrone initiative, this French initiative, it's
the fruits of October seventh.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
That's what That's all I want you to hear.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
That's Brett McGirk that he's the one of the globalst
analysts for CNN. That's exactly what Hamas wanted to hear.
Macrone's initiative for a two state solution is the fruits
of October seventh. That's what Hamas started this war about.

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Now again, I don't think that every action by Israel
is justified or laudable, but I also recognize that it's
a war and mistakes are made, decisions are made based
on intel that I do not have. So do I
trust Hamas or do I trust Israel?

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Why?

Speaker 2 (22:50):
I trust Hamas? But we have an undeniable moral asymmetry
at place here. When an Israeli soldier violates the law,
what happens to him? He or she gets investigated and punished.

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If punishment is warranted. When Hamas violates the law, it
becomes not an exception, it becomes the guiding principle because Hamas,
as any terrorist organization does, thrives on chaos. Hamas hides
behind its own civilians, It weaponizes kids, it uses its

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own population as shields, and then it hoards the aid
that you and I, as taxpayers send. It hoards those
resources for their own terrorists.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
There's a text message that just came in a little
bit of that says, how can you tell the difference
between Hamas and civilians?

Speaker 2 (23:52):
And you can't, And that's on purpose. That's deliberate. You know,
if you want to talk about a tragedy, it's not
a genocide. But if you want to talk about a tragedy,
it's that these innocent gosms are bearing the brunt of
brutality from Hamas. I would guess most gossens did not

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ask for this. Now some did, some some have absolutely
they're absolutely subjected to Stockholm syndrome, so they they're wittingly
participating in this. But when we place the full blame

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for civilians suffering in gaz on Israel, that's a victory
for Hamas. That's part of their strategy. They want to
maximize the suffering of the gosms of its own, of
their own people, so that we will eventually turn our
anger against Israel. And I think we're at an inflection
point that I think I think Hamas is winning at

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this point. That's why the whole claim of genocide is
absolutely it's insane. It's absolutely insane. So what what am
I asking you to do? I'm asking you to really

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reflect on what you hear. I don't even care if
it's some Fox News or News Nation or Newsmax or
O A N wherever you get your news. I want
you to look at it with a critical eye. Now, granted,
those outlets that I just told you are probably going

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to be more objective. Some are probably actually you know,
in the Hallelujah chorus for Israel, And that's fine because
that's where I'm at. Again, I don't agree with everything
that Natanyahu in the war Cabinet have done, but again
I don't have the intel, so I can't. All I
can do is make an outside judgment. The real villainous

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Hamas and Hamas is using their greatest weapon, which is
our moral confusion. And that moral confusion is reflected in
so many different places in the midst of this The

(26:32):
King Jeffries appearing with Wolf Blitcher on CNN on.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Another sensitive issue.

Speaker 7 (26:38):
While I have you, Congressman on the war between Israel
and Hamas and the worstening crisis unfolding in Gaza right now,
you're a democratic.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
The worstening crisis unfolding? Really, Wolf, you want to explain
to us the premise of your statement, what is the
worstening crisis? Do you want to give us any nuance
to that? Because you see you do this is I
didn't intend to do this, but you know, once again
looking at everything with a critical eye and critical thinking.

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I had pulled this sound by that because I wanted
you to hear Hakeem Jeffreys. But just as I was playing,
and I'm thinking to myself, wait, would stop stop? Because
I need to I need to interject my own rule,
which is, never buy into the premise of the question. Well,
don't buy into the premise of the question here that

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Wolf is spewing out.

Speaker 7 (27:30):
Of your congressman on the war between Israel and Hamas
and the worstening crisis unfolding in.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
God, Why why do you call it a worstening crisis?
And who's causing?

Speaker 3 (27:41):
What's the call?

Speaker 2 (27:42):
If there is a worsening crisis, and let's say there
is what is it?

Speaker 4 (27:48):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Right now?

Speaker 7 (27:49):
You're a Democratic colleague. Conssman Rocana, California is now circulating
a letter urging the White House to recognize a Palestinian state.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Are you opening? Are you open to signing on to that?

Speaker 8 (28:04):
I haven't seen the letter or talked the row, but
here's what I'll say about the situation. The humanitarian crisis
right now is unconscionable, and we've got to surge humanitarian
aid and food into Gaza to prevent starvation from children
and innocent civilians who have been suffering in this war zone.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Okay, so tell me, mister leader of the Democrat Party
in the House, how would you propose to do that?
You're such a tactical expert, you're such a logistical expert.
How exactly would you propose to do that? I'd like to,
you know, I'd like to hear Wolf ask that question.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Now.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
If you were smart, he'd say, well, I don't know.
I would defer to the logistical experts and the military experts,
but at least some recognition that it's a pretty easy
to sit in a studio on Capitol Hill talking to
a y'all who in a studio five blocks away on
CNN and talk about well, you know, I want to

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I want to see that. You know, we gotta we
got to surge aid aid in there. Okay, well, how
would you do that? Explain that to me, sir knack.

Speaker 9 (29:15):
The world has turned against Israel. This is something new
to you.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Now. The world has always been against Israel.

Speaker 9 (29:23):
Israel has been fighting for its life since its existence.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
The world is a.

Speaker 9 (29:30):
Messed up place and the world's values are completely backwards.
Israel needs to do what it needs to do, take
care of Israel, destroy Hamas.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
I want to fine tune what you say, because, yes,
Israel has always been fighting for its existence. But here's where,
and here's why I'm spending an inordinate amount of time
on this today. I've I couldn't decide whether to put
off to the end of the week and decided to
do it today.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
And I'm not done.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
So you know, if you're bored with this, sorry, but
I think you'll like what's coming up next or not like,
but it'll certainly certainly should keep you thinking. Israel, yes,
has always been fighting for its survival. But the reason
I decided to do the story today is because now

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we have France, the United Kingdom and Canada coming out
in the midst of a war, which is the absolute
wrong time to do this, playing into Hamas's hands and
saying yes, we would support a two state solution, we

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would support a Palestinian state that has empowered Hamas that
that that's totally in complete capitulation by Western civilization. You
don't get much more Western civilization than France, United Kingdom
and Canada. The the only speed bump on that is

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Donald Trump right now, Who's next words in Germany?

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Hmm, could be?

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Absolutely could be. So now we've we've got the decision,
as I casually mentioned earlier, that Israel now wants to
occupy the Gaza Strip.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
It's not yet formal.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
The Cabinet still has to approve it. But if we're
talking about a story, if we're talking about uh, a
historical chapter, the the prelude is over. We we've gone
through the prelude and the introduction, and we've gone into

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the into the bulk of the chapter. And now we're
getting toward the end. And the end is a very
grave and serious phase and what will happen and I
want to talk about Next is the commentariat that will
now rush to treat this as a moral failure of

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Israeli restraint or on the other hand, speaking of duality,
which kind of seems to be our theme today. Duality.
It will be Oh, it's just the Israel's are a
bunch of hawks, it's just net and Yahoo, he's just
a warmonger. Well, that interpretation is not only false, it's

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dishonest and it's the opposite of the truth. The occupation
of Gaza is not a first resort, Unfortunately and tragically,
it's the last resort, and it's the outcome of a
lot of miss steps by a lot of international actors,
including France, United Kingdom, Canada, the United Nations. Fortunately, swell

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us before Trump