8-6-25 - 9am - Recognize A Palestinian State and Guatemalian Before American

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hamas has been offered. Palestinian has been offered as to
their own state, probably four or maybe five times, depending
on your fingers. I lived in Egypt. I understand a
little bit about what's going on there. Hamas, only once
Israel destroyed is their solution. They will one state. Israel's
never opposed a two state solution. Hamas and the Palestinians

(00:23):
have always opposed a two state solution.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Amen, let's go to MSNBC. Let's listen to a Gaza Nady.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Ahmed to you. You grew up in Gaza and you
lost family in this war, as I understand it. And
your latest piece for the Atlantic, you right, Hamas actually
wants a famine in Gaza, producing mass death from hunger
is the group's final play, its last hope for ending
the war in a way that advances its goals.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Now, I wanted you we'll finish the sound bite in
one second, but I wanted you to hear her introduction
to the question, because she quotes him in The Atlantic.
Hamas actually wants a famine in Gaza, producing mass death
from hunger is the group's final play, its last hope

(01:14):
for ending the war in a way that advances its goals.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Explain that to us. Can you explain why Hamas may
think this is an effective tool of war?

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Well, multiple things can be true at once.

Speaker 5 (01:29):
It is a fact that the Israeli government, through its policies,
through the directions of far right finance Minister Smotrich, are
ultimately responsible for reducing the supply of food inventory in
Gaza down to a trickle starting in March. Nevertheless, they
very much so fell into a trap of Hamas's design.

(01:52):
Hamas wanted to see the deterioration of the humanitarian conditions
in Gaza, knowing full well that this may be the
only hope for drawing in the international community, for producing
horrendous imagery that showcase the war as being a humanitarian catastrophe,

(02:13):
and therefore hoping to bring about a rapid end to
the war that it started, and it has an ultimate
responsibility to end. I think for sure Hamas has had
a role in siphoning off plenty of the aid going in.
Hamas has gotten us to a place where we need GHF.
I'm not saying I support GHF, but we need to

(02:35):
even have the conversation.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
That's the girls a humanitarian foundation fund that's doing the
supply right now, and Fox News is reporting yesterday on
how they are actually able to get some food to
these starving.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
People, about an alternate mechanism other than the UN and
that needs to be talked about, even if we hold
Israel ultimate responsible.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
And GHF has said that it has distributed upwards of
ninety million to one hundred million meals so far, so
it's not insignificant. How do you see Israel's policy, the
US policy, how should they navigate it from here to
try to quell this hunger crisis.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
Well, clearly GHF has been a failure in the limited
number of sites, having three in southern Gaza and only
one in the north. GHF flip flops on the messaging.
Sometimes they'll say that they were never meant to supplant
the UN when clearly the Israeli government intended for them
to entirely replace the existing UoN distribution mechanism.

Speaker 6 (03:43):
So that's an interesting point because I agree.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
With that, But why because the way he presents it
makes it sound evil that, oh, this was done on
purpose because they knew that GHF could not do it
in all throughout the country, three stations in the south,
only one in the north. Why do you think that's so? Well,

(04:13):
that is so because they Israel can't get in there,
and the United Nations was actually part of the problem.

Speaker 6 (04:24):
As I've told you before, the.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Leader of the relief agency in Gaza was a UN
employee who is simultaneously the head of the union. Because
Hamas is an organization like any other business organization, its
business just happens to be terror and the destruction of Israel.
So this is an example of where the guy may

(04:50):
say something that is true, but you have to take
it in context. Why would Israel want the United Nations
out of the humanitarian relief business because they were actually
helping and enabling HAMAS to steal the aid that was
going in. But let's not lose sight. Let's not lose

(05:11):
sight of the very beginning of this SoundBite, because this
is the jumping off point for why you've got to
understand that this is this is the endgame that I
believe we're entering into that could blow up the Middle East,

(05:32):
that could involve the United States. And why maybe things
that have been done previous to now had multiple purposes.
For example, the bombing of the Iranian nuclear facilities. Yeah,
that may have been done to set them back. But

(05:53):
could it have also been done because if the Israeli
cabinet says yes, let's just go in and occupy it,
now the Iranians and Hesbal all of their proxies are
put in a position of, yeah, well, we saw what

(06:14):
the Americans did. We don't think we want to get involved. Cutter,
who where all of the Hamas leaders hide because they're
not staying in Gaza. They're not in Gaza City. No,
they're in Cutter. Maybe we seek asylum. Maybe we seek
asylum somewhere besides Cutter, because Cutter is doing business with

(06:36):
the United States right now. Meanwhile, the Saudis, the Emeralds,
all of the Kuwaitis, they all look and say, okay,
let's just keep our head down. Let's keep our head
down because this is the end game, and we'd like
to get rid of Hamas too.

Speaker 6 (06:57):
So let's go back to the very beginning in Gaza.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
And you lost family in this war, as I understand it.
In your latest piece for.

Speaker 6 (07:04):
The Other, listen to what he writes Atlantic.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
You write Hamas actually wants a famine in Gaza, producing
mass death from hunger. Is the group's final play, its
last hope. For ending the war in a way that
advances its goals.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
All right, Hamas actually wants a famine in Gaza, producing
mass death from hunger. Is Hamas's final play. Is Hamas's
last hope for ending the war in a way that
advances its goals. So now we have confirmation that Yes

(07:39):
Nat and Yahoo has requested the Cabinet approve the occupation
of the Gaza strip. As I said, the prelude is over.
We're halfway through the history book and we're now in
the final chapters. And of course you can expect, and
I'm just warning you that all of the Western commentary

(08:01):
well treat this as a moral failure of Israeli restraint,
or that it's just Netanyahu the warmonger, just trying to
take back what he should what he thinks shouldn't have
been given away back in two thousand and five. That
interpretation is false, it's dishonest. Who's the opposite of the truth.

(08:23):
The occupation of Gaza is not a first resort. It
is the last resort, and it's the result of an
outcome born, as I said, by a lot of misteps,
by international actors like McCrone, starmer Carney and quite frankly,
Joe Biden the United States up until Trump was elected, Yeah,

(08:45):
we were at fault two. Now Trump's got to pick
up the pieces. So for twenty two months now or
maybe longer, Israel has pursued every alternative that you could
humanly think of. Now, when we demanded and the international
community demanded a surgeon humanitarian aid, Israel did it. When

(09:06):
some ceasefire negotiations gained a little bit of momentum, Israel said,
we got some flexibility here, including some territorial compromises. Then
when Hamas rejected a comprehensive offer mediated by Egypt, Cutter
and the United States, it wasn't because of a lack
of effort by Jerusalem or Washington. It was the result

(09:28):
of the calculated decision by Hamas to extract even more
gains by prolonging the conflict.

Speaker 6 (09:36):
And for a while even I thought it might go
the other way.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
But the timeline speaks for itself. Listen to the timeline.
Israel envoys traveled to Doha in Cutter in early July.
By mid month, a new draft agreement was on the table.
Steve Whitkoff, our special envoy, was scheduled to fly to
Doha in July twenty third to finish the deal, but
by then had already sabotaged the process following a Western

(10:03):
joint statement led by the UK's Secretary Foreign Secretary David
Lammy calling for an unconditionally into the war and an
unrestricted flow of aid. So from the United Kingdom, Hamas
recognized that, oh guess what, we can get our objectives
without giving up the hostages. So it increased, it raised

(10:24):
the demand level, It withdrew consent on earlier terms they'd
agreed to, and the negotiations Claptins collapsed entirely. Thank you,
United Kingdom. The labor government in the UK has got
to go. They're not doing it. They're not doing their
own country any good, let alone the international order. Meanwhile,

(10:45):
the hostages are still starving underground and the war grinds
on just like warfare trench war, except it's urban warfare,
urban trench warfare, and the humanitarian situation still hasn't ended.
So what do we get from Western civilization symbolism? So

(11:07):
go back to September. The United KINGDM of France and
Canada and others set and then did just this past
couple of weeks recognize the Palestinian state.

Speaker 6 (11:20):
Why, because they.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Think that's going to reinvigorate the peace process. Symbolic actions
which actually incentivize violence. It never breaks the cycle of war.
It perpetuates a cycle of war. So the July twenty
first statement by these stupid countries didn't bolster diplomacy. It

(11:43):
destroyed diplomacy, which of course is what Hamas wants. So
now Israel faces the consequences of that destruction by their
so called allies who have been manipulated by Hamas. Now
the IDF is reportedly reluctant to engage in renewed full
scale combat. You ought to understand why. They're exhausted, and

(12:07):
they're probably running law in all sorts of munitions and
supplies and even personnel. But they'd nevertheless been preparing us
any good military outfit would. They're preparing a range of
military scenarios, encirclement strategies, targeted incursions, but none of that's

(12:28):
going to be a quick resolution. So without a decisive
shift on the ground, the hostages that we are now
seeing that are now being blasted in our faces all
the time, are going to starve to death in captivity.
And Hamas is not going to be deterred. In fact,
Gaza will become an even stronger place for Palestinie g

(12:48):
Hattist aggression. Now, some people will argue that the occupation
is not going to bring peace. Maybe it will, maybe
it won't. But what those dis failed to answer is
what will bring about peace.

Speaker 6 (13:03):
It's not going to be diplomacy. We mean, we've seen.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
That tried over and over and over again. That's been exhausted.
In my opinion, diplomacy is done. When I was an undergrad,
I read we had a textbook. I took this class
on diplomacy, and one of the things that I remember
distinctly from that textbook is understanding when diplomacy is done

(13:29):
and you've got to move on. Well, I think that's
where we are. The incentives, oh they were lavish, but
they're done. Restraint. The restraint is actually in bolden Hamas.
They've not surrendered, they're not moderator, they're not compromised, they've

(13:49):
done nothing. Instead, they're starving the captives, they're starving their
own civilians. They're now engaged in enhanced propaganda and they continue.
You know what, this doesn't get reported much. They're continuing
to fire into different towns. And in Israel, the rockets

(14:10):
are still flying out of Gaza. So the decision that's
been made to occupy is not an ideological decision. It's
a decision of survival and necessity. It's not vengeance. It
is a grim and real world strategic calculation. They've tried

(14:35):
every alternative, They've tried everything. Now you can expect new
criticisms the Western press, the New York Times, the political class.
You already you know, I could already go on and
find people already, you know, complaining about NETANYAHUU and complaining

(14:56):
about the war cabinet and complaining about, oh my god,
now they're going to occupy. That is performative distraction. If
the occupation does proceed, it may be long, costly. There's
a lot of pitfalls, there's a lot of danger points,

(15:19):
inflection points, but it's probably, in my opinion, the only
remaining way to establish any sort of minimal condition of
security in order for Israel. The problem of Gaza has
not left Israel with any choice. It has left with
this burden, and so now it has to finally solve
that burden. Resolve that burden. And by the way, in

(15:44):
the meantime, if they do occupy Gaza. Oh, it's going
to be ugly, and I actually believe that we could
be drawn into it, not in a what not necessarily
boots on the ground, but we may be you know,
doing you know, we may have ships in the Mediterranean
again right off the shores. We may have you know,

(16:08):
advisors in you know, in the war cabinet. Uh, we
might even be finding some bombers over who knows. All
of that makes everything really really precarious. But what I
want you to do is to recognize that, much like

(16:31):
that textbook taught me, they're comes an into diplomacy and
at some point, as my mother in law used to
say that Devy and I a lot, sometimes you got
to do what you've got to do. And I think
that's where we are to be a real test for Trump,
to be a real test for us, because while we're

(16:55):
putting all of our allies kind of back together again,
and we're showing that we're in control and we're we're
here to stay, and we're not going to Dilley Delhi
around like Biden and Obama did. Yeah, that comes with
its own problems too. I'm glad, we don't get me wrong,
I'm glad we're doing it. I just want us to

(17:15):
be ready for what that entails, because that may mean
some involvement whatever that means, because I don't know what
it means. But whatever it means, we might get involved,
or he can completely blow up in everybody's face when
we have a Middle Eastern war that at some point
the Saudi's and the Kiwaitis and the Emirates and everybody

(17:38):
else says, aah, we can't stand by. We gotta we
gotta do something interesting times we live in. For sure, you.

Speaker 7 (17:48):
Should read Psalms eighty three. It's a book about how
all the Muslim nations come together at some point in
the near future or in the future and try to
overthrow and destroy Israel. It's a good read, and from

(18:09):
what you're talking about, it's definitely coming to true about
the prophecies, have a good one.

Speaker 6 (18:16):
Did he say the book was called Psalm eighty three?

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (18:20):
So when I find that in the library Psalm? Is
that is that a is that under p for? Or
is that under s yes unders for s A l M.
Or you know there there's a there, there's a book
in a book called the Psalms.

Speaker 6 (18:38):
Do you think that's what he's referring.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
To I'm sure you can ask a teacher.

Speaker 6 (18:41):
Okay, I can ask a teacher. Huh.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
What a brilliant segue you had there, So what what
about teachers?

Speaker 4 (18:52):
I don't know. I don't have the script in front
of me. You goofhead, Come on you.

Speaker 8 (18:58):
Right?

Speaker 4 (19:00):
I tried, I tried, temper, I tried.

Speaker 6 (19:04):
You tried.

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I'm speaking to you're speaking to the boss right now.
You tried, live on the air, live on the air.
I tried, you tried.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
I tried.

Speaker 6 (19:15):
It didn't work, did it?

Speaker 4 (19:16):
And the dumbass talent just couldn't take the hand.

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(21:52):
Junior got rid of them, and that vaccine prevented him
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he's gotta be an old fart. After seventy years as
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(22:14):
Colorado affiliated? Or's I liked unaffiliated? Or's I like to
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Speaker 6 (22:34):
You ever been to Martha's Vineyard? Dragon? Not know? We
should go sometime.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
It's a really you talk about hoity toity, it's really
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what happened?

Speaker 8 (22:58):
I said, oh, can I can I have a six parogi?

Speaker 6 (23:01):
And he said no?

Speaker 8 (23:03):
I said, oh, you've run out of parogi to bed.

Speaker 6 (23:05):
No, no, we have.

Speaker 8 (23:06):
Plenty of progy. I just won't sell them to you.
What do you mean your book sell them to me?
I won't sell them to you because I don't approve
of your politics. I don't approve of who you've represented.
I don't approve of who you support. I said, what
is it about my politics that you don't I'm not going.

Speaker 6 (23:23):
To tell you.

Speaker 8 (23:24):
I just so that's the buck fair. The library has
banned my books. The library has banned me once. They
allowed me to talk once after I defended Trump, but
they limited I talked to twenty people they used to
get to.

Speaker 6 (23:38):
Won't allow me to speak at the synagogue. They allow
Peter weinhart of Court.

Speaker 8 (23:42):
But a group came over to them and said, if
we ever see you talking to Elan Dershowitz again, you'll
never be invited to any events in our homes.

Speaker 6 (23:50):
And so, you know, I feel sorry for you.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
I do.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
I don't agree with this almost politics, but you know,
at least he had the cajones to represent people that
other people wouldn't represent, and he did things that he
thought was right, and I admire that. Earlier in the program,
somebody mentioned elon Omar. Well, the Somali colonists like elon

(24:18):
Omar or Omar, Fetah Deck de Locke Mana Abdi are
not the only US politicians to openly proclaim their loyalty
to a foreign country, even though they are elected officials
in this country. I couldn't think of her name earlier.

(24:38):
It's Congresswoman Delaiah Ramirez. She's a Democrat from Illinois. I'm sorry,
she's a Democrat from Illinois. She says, I'm a proud
Guatemalan before I'm an American she said in Spanish. She
then accused the United States of prioritizing imperialism, militarization, conquest, control,

(25:03):
competition in this attempt at domination. Where'd she say it?
At the second Annual Pan American Congress in Mexico City,
which also featured her colleagues Diana Pressley from Taxachusetts. He's
on Omar from Democrats, Somalia and Rascheta to leave Democrat

(25:26):
Gaza America was rounded announced by all of them. And
then on her website, ramrrors the child of immigrant parents,
that her husband is in the country illegally, and that
she's the only congressional lawmaker in a mixed status marriage
and fights for the rights of dreamers like her husband Boris,
and for comprehensive immigration reform. She's a congresswoman who puts

(25:55):
Guatemala before her own country. She's married to an illegal alien,
and she says that her job is to fight for
the rights of dreamers like her husband Boris. Oh, and
of course for the my three favorite words, comprehensive immigration reform,
which of course is dumbassy, for amnesty and open borders.

(26:20):
She's not loyal to this country, so why would she
respect the laws to protect our country from a foreign invasion.
The Daily News Caller Foundation reports that this summit was
organized by the leader of Progressive International, a radical left
wing group that describes capitalism as a virus that must

(26:41):
be eradicated, in partnership with Marina Mexico's ruling left wing party.
Wait a minute, Wait, wait a minute. Let's go back
to Congresswoman Ramirez. So she's in this country, elected as
a congressman, and she's at an organization that says that
is a virus that must be eradicated. And you guys

(27:03):
are asleep in the switch and you don't think that
the country's in danger just because we like to Donald Trump.
Everything's kind of hunky dory. Now, you've got a socialist
communist running for mayor in New York City who has
a hell of a chance of winning, in my opinion,
because he's giving out free stuff. You've got a congresswoman,
several of them, as a matter of fact. But here's
one who's attending, with several of them attending this conference

(27:24):
that wants to eradicate capitalism. You know what I say,
cut their salaries off. Yes, I you know I don't
have in front of me. But there's something in the
Congressional Oath of Office about you will support and defend
the constitution of the United States of America.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
If you go to a.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Foreign country and, as a member of the United States Congress,
denounce your country, I'm not sure you should be a congresswoman.

Speaker 6 (27:54):
I should think now the spaniel.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
Primeros America.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
She doesn't like American. I'm a proud Guatemalan before I'm
an American. And then she accuses us of imperialism, militarization, conquest, control, competition,
all in our attempt to dominate. What do you think

(28:27):
she's attempting to do. It's their own form of imperialism,
their own form of militarization. Remember, they want to go fight.
They you know, they tried to kill Trump. They they
they Antifa, Black Lives Matter, They're all militarized.

Speaker 6 (28:45):
And what are they trying to do? Conquest control?

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Oh so, but the mirror of sweetheart, it seems to
me that you're engaged in the very things that you're
denouncing about this country. And if you think think that
capitalism is a virus that i'd be eradicated, then give
up your salary, give up whatever you live in, go
live in a hut somewhere, or just go back to Guatemala. Yeah,

(29:13):
go back to Guatemala, Rannie, your goof head dragon said, So.

Speaker 6 (29:24):
I am a goof ed.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
I hadn't planned to do this story, but every once
in a while something pops up on my screen that
catches my attention, and it's caught my attention, it will
be and it's just an example and it kind of
hits me personally about how fast time flies. So in

(29:48):
about twenty three days, it will it will been twenty
years since I sat in a gigantic tent somewhere, probably
in New Orleans, may have been Baton Rouge, but I
don't remember where. And I sat with Robert Mueller, former

(30:12):
director of the FBI, well at the time, he was
the director of the FBI, and Bob and I had
a pretty good relationship, and we were discussing how I
needed cops from major cities. There's something called the Major
Police Chiefs Association in there. It's a group of police

(30:35):
chiefs from all of the country from big cities like
you know, Denver would qualify. But I wanted cops particularly
from you know, New York, Chicago, La, San Francisco, Denver, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta.
I wanted Miami. I wanted cops from those specific places

(30:55):
because they were accustomed to working in an urban environment
and dealing with what we believe to be at the
time major problems of looting and rioting and all sorts
of bad things going on in During our Kane, Katrina
and Bob and I sat in that tent, and we

(31:19):
had Eddie Compas, who was the superintendent police in New
Orleans at the time, kind of upset with us because well,
his police department had disintegrated and we were looking for
these big city cops. So that will have been twenty
years ago. In a few weeks, this just came across.

(31:42):
The House Oversight Committee has issued a subpoena to former
Special Counsel Robert Mueller, the same Robert Mueller to come
and testify in the Russia Gate investigation. Except here's what
caught my attention. Paul Sperry, with Real Clear Investigations has

(32:05):
posted this on x. House Oversight Committee has subpoenaed Robert
Muller to appear for a September two deposition to provide
details from an FBI investigation of Jeffrey Epstein from decades ago,
even though my sources tell me Bob Muller has been
living in a memory care facility for the past several years.

(32:29):
Uh oh, wow, time flies, doesn't it?

Speaker 6 (32:37):
Good luck?

Speaker 2 (32:38):
You know, Regardless of what you think of him, I
liked him at the time. I didn't like what he
did in the Russia to get investigations. But in a
memory care facility, that's actually kind of sad.