8-8-25 - 7am - First Mile Free

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Excel is run by a budget dopes it should be
predicting more energy because the demands higher. But I know
that's not how it works in this day and age speak.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
So they won us go. Let's go, let's go back
to the Excel. So at four oh eight yesterday they
send out an email. Now I don't I don't know,
you know, your mileys may vary, so you may have
gotten it at a different time. But I found it
kind of interesting that they would send down We've had
the weather predictions all week long, whether you whether you

(00:36):
watch Cody the weather guy up in Greeley, or you
watch Dave Frasier on KDVR, or whoever the others are
those it do I really pay any attention to. You
knew it was going to be hot this week. But
even if you did not watch any of the local meteorologists,

(00:57):
you knew it was going to be hot because Jack Skellen. Yes,
it's today, it's Friday, August eighth, it's the middle of summer.
It's hot. And despite those of you that lived outside
the state, you don't realize that Denver is like you know,
where the where the Queen City, the plains. We don't

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live in the mountains. The mountains are over there, they're
just west of here. Like to get into the foothills,
what do you think the distance is like from the
station dragon to the very edge of the foothills just
on the other side of four seventy from this location
ten miles fifteen miles take Yeah, so ten to fifteen

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miles ten or fifteen miles from where I'm sitting is
four seventy Interstate four seventy and just on the other
side of that are what we call the foothills, you know,
where it just kind of begins to kind of slope up. Now,
there are a few little hills here and there, but
that's kind of the beginning. And then we sit in
this kind of a little bit of a bowl because

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of the geography, so it just tends to get hot.
Oh did you know that yesterday was an ozone alert?
In fact, I got a haircut yesterday. As I'm coming
back from my haircut on the twenty five, the overhead
signs I'm coming back from the now Yesterday was Thursday.
I drive the twenty five every single day, so on

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Wednesday these signs were not up, but on Thursday it
was O zone alert Wednesday and Thursday. Wait a minute,
today is Thursday. This wasn't up yesterday. So according to
the ozone alert, I'm supposed to stay inside, not fill

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my car up, limit my trips. So I made several
extra trips yesterday. I love the smell of ozone. And
we get these warnings and then I come home and
I'm some show prep and I'm reading the story about
how it's gonna cost businesses, you know, millions of dollars
to transition to meet you know, Jared, you know, mister businessman,

(03:09):
Jared Polis wants to you know, convert everything you know
to that zero. What a foolish endeavor, What a foolish endeavor.
CO two makes up what point oh four percent of
the atmosphere and or whatever the percentage is, and whatever
mankind produces of that you want us to eliminate And

(03:32):
somehow that's gonna that's going to stop climate from ever
changing again. I mean, it's just when when you step back,
forget all the studies, forget all you know that you
know they never talk about. You know, there's a consensus,
you know, ninety five percent of climate sciences agree. Well,
first of all, if it's ninety five percent. That leaves

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five percent, So that in and of itself is not
a consensus. A consensus is we all agree. So the
very use of the language is is false. So they
try to convince us that, you know, we can by
going to net zero, we can clean up the environment,

(04:17):
we can save the planet, we can stop the climate
from changing. What utter bull craft. Just think about that.
The parts per million of carbon dioxi of CO two
in the atmosphere, you know, five hundred years ago was
one thousand times I'm just pulling numbers out of my
butt right now. I'm just give you a proportion. It
was one thousand times greater than it is today. Now.

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Is there some increasing CO two? Yes, But has anyone
ever drawn a direct correlation between that increase in CO
two which is still less than it was previously, But
nonetheless there's an increase a causal link between that and
climate change? No? Absolutely not. In fact, most of the

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reputable climate scientists agree that there is. Well, if there
is any correlation, it's the minimus. It doesn't really have
any impact at all. But nonetheless, they want to pursue zero.
It's all about control. It's all about control. And taxes.
It's all about you know, limiting again. You'll own nothing,
and we'll tell you where to live, how to live,

(05:23):
how to get from one place to another. Oh I
got a story about that in a second too, about
how to get from one place to another. The stupidity,
Oh my god, I think this is why I'm in
a mood today. We live in stupid times, really really
stupid times. Anyway, back to the weather for a moment.
So excel sends out the email. Oh my gosh, cranker thermer,

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sat up to seventy five and if you're going to
be gone, left the house, get up to eighty five
degrees you know, no, no, and don't use any turn
off all your unplugged, turn off all of your stuff.
Well what am I supposed to do? Turn off all
the lights, turn off all the air conditioning, and then
just sit in a dark house, no TV, no radio, nothing,
just sit there, you know, twiddling my thumbs. You know, uh,

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well maybe I could, you know, I could play with it,
you know whatever. We don't do that so that buildings
can convert to electricity, so that cars can be evs. No,
and it's all because it's hot outside. I Excel. How

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long have you existed in color How long? Somebody look up?
How long has Excel been in business? I mean, there's
got it's got to be decades now, decades, maybe longer.
You know, it gets hot in the summer. Why aren't
you building your capacity to meet the temperature, which by
the way, is not a record. Now, at the same
time that we're being told that we have to cut

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back must week, well you gotta get we gotta do
zero because of climate change. And it's hot. And the
reason it's hot in Colorado is because of climate change.
It's because too many of you right now are out
there driving to work. You know, just don't don't go
to work today. Call in sick. But don't call in sick,
call in and say, listen, it's an ozone alert day.
It's gonna be hot. Excel wants me to crank up,

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not use any electricity, so I can't come into the
office because we're gonna we're gonna kill the planet if
I come in. Look what I'm doing right now. My god,
I've got all these lights on, I got all these
computers on, I got all these like all this electronic
stuff on. I got the air conditioning on already in
this in this stupid.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Studio, I will say, Michael, really quickly after looking this up,
Excel is relatively new to the energy industry.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
But I bet they were. I bet it's just new
in name. Well, there had to have been a utility
for long long to.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Get their Their history dates back to nineteen oh nine,
so they're relatively new in the tell me those things.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
I just took a swallow of diet coke.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
That was absolutely fantastic. Somebody other than myself saw that
it was glorious. Yeah, they've only been around for one
hundred and sixteen years.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Wait a minute, nineteen oh nine predates the dust Bowl,
Just just saying, so what, dumb ass Excel Energy. My god,
you're relatively new to this whole thing. Yeah, they are
right outside. You're right. I apologize, I deeply, deeply apologize.
I'm so freaking sorry to call you out for your stupidity. So,

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while we're sitting here suffering through a not record heat wave,
Dragon That's worth. He has such a way of he
just hands me these stories.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
I thought you would like this.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yeah, he just hands it to me, says, I think
you'll like this. So I glanced down and here's the headline.
Entire state of California. No, not northern California. No, not
the inland, not the Bay Area, not southern California. The
entire state of California is enduring a cold, all caps

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cold summer thanks to the bizarre weather pattern the Golden State.
This comes to us from the Daily Mail. The Golden
State has been a lot gloomier this summer's California experiences
chillier weather and cloudy conditions, which experts say is set
to stick around. Temperatures in the Bay Area have hovered

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around and the average sixty seven degrees blow the average
seventy one, making it the coldest summer since nineteen sixty five.
Let's see San Francisco. San Francisco, Oh June gloom. They're talking,

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They're talking about the do do do do.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Well.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
There's a lot of bull crap in the story dragon.
So anyway, there's the headline. The entire city of California
is suffering through a cooler, cold summer. They actually call
it a cold summer. Wouldn't sixty seven degrees feel good
right now? In fact, I'd bet it's it's already seventy

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three degrees outside according to my watch, so seventy three
degrees outside already and it's only seven to seventeen in
the morning. Meanwhile, in California it's sixty seven degrees and
what are they doing? It's the stupidity just is is continues.
It just doesn't let up. So let's do this as

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long as we're doing stupid stuff. We've talked about how RTD, So, Kathleen,
if you're away from paying attention, we're going to make
fun of our TV for a moment. RTD is our
regional Transportation district. It's the one that provides us the
light rail and the buses, and you know, the stuff
that they're trying to force us to get into because

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they want to control how you get to work. I've
always complained that in a place as spread out as Denver,
light rail public transportation is essentially not feasible. It's just

(11:31):
it's just not feasible. We're too spread out, the distance
is too great. I often laugh about, you know, in
the little town that I grew up in the Oklam Panhandle,
you know, getting to Oklahoma City or to Denver was
two hundred and fifty plus miles. It was just to

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go anywhere it was you you drove a lot of miles.
So I've always I kind of grew up thinking that
that was the norm. I kind of laugh now when
we when Tam and I are like, Okay, let's go shopping,
let's go to you know, out to eat or whatever,
and suddenly we're like, oh, my gosh, that's that restaurant's

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six miles away. Oh it's just too far to go.
That's just too far to go. Hell's bells. If we
wanted to go to Amarillo, Texas, that was one hundred
and twenty miles. Not that I wanted to go to Amrello, Texas,
but if I did, with all due respect to people
in Amarello. So my complained about public transportation in a
place like Denver, or in a place like where you live.

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Un unless, of course, you live in downtown Chicago, or
you live you know, inside the Beltway in DC, or
you live anywhere in the five boroughs of Manhattan, then
public transportation is probably reasonable to use and is makes sense.
You can take the Long Isle Long Island Railroad. You
can get the l r R all the way from

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Oyster Bay, you know, into Manhattan. That makes sense. Because
you certainly don't want to get on the you know,
cross Bronx Expressway and try to get into midtown, or
go across the Arizona Bridge, or go across you know,
the George Washington Bridge, because it's just a it's a
pain in the ass, and it takes forever, and it's
damn expensive too. But let's think about RTD here, so

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I could Here's how I would use RTD if I were,
if I were to use the light rail to get
to work. Here's what I would do. I would I
would get in the beamer and I would back out.
I would take University till it turned into Lincoln Boulevard.
I would take Lincoln Boulevard all the way over to
I twenty five, where there is a light rail station

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at at Lincoln Boulevard and I twenty five. Then I
would park my car there. I would wait, you know,
for the next train, and then I would take that
train all the way down to Bellevue Station. Now, once
I got to Bellevue station, now I got a problem
because now I've got to get my ass, my fat ass,
from Bellevue station. The mile and a half two miles

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it is from Bellevue station to these studios. So how
am I going to do that? So well, I'm not
gonna do that. And if it's you know, if it's
record heat, which it's not, but if it's hot, you know,
I don't I don't, you know, I stink enough, so
I don't want to get sweaty and you know, walk
all the way over here and then have Dragon bitch about,
Oh my god, you smell it. You know, a pile
of crap? Do they Oh you're all sweaty and nasty. No,

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look at your arm pits, blah blah blah blah. So
I can't do that because then he'll bitch about the
way I look in the way I smell. Or I
guess I could call an uber, or I guess I
could just call a cab. Do they do they do
cabs still exist? Are they still around? Or maybe there
just might be a bus that would take me from
Bellevue Station over here to Bellevue and Monaco. But I

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don't whether there's a bus stop down there or not.
I don't know there's is there a best stop? There's
not a bus stop out here, as they're Dragon, I
don't think there's a bust stop out here, So I
I don't want to do that in dead of winter. No,
I'm not going to go in sub zero temperature at
you know, four point thirty five o'clock in the morning,
go tracking across there to give you get over here. Well,

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RTD has come up with a solution and it's free. Free. Yes,
it's free, which of course you know that it's not.
Denver pilot program will provide free e scooter trips to
RTD stations. Our electric scooters. This comes to a saddle westward.

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Our electric scooters the key to getting Denver residents to
use public transit. The RTD District wants to find out.
They're going to fund a two year pilot program to
provide free e s scooter and bike rides to two
Denver transit stations beginning early next year. It's called the
First Mile Free Program. It's going to subsidize forty thousand

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trips paying for the first mile of rides that end
at the University of Denver and the Decatur Federal stations.
The id originated from a school assignment to create a
policy to improve Denver's transportation system, says Joel Cox, the
University of Denver Graduate studying students study environmental policy. I

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started thinking about my own day to day experience. I
live about a mile from the University of Denver station,
and I'd like to use it more often, but most
days it's just too far of a walk. Driving and
parking there kind of defeats the point I could call
an uber But once you add that cost onto the fair,
it stops making sense. The more I looked into it,

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the more I realize I'm not alone in that well.
Mister Joel Cox, I hate to tell you, but are
you just now discovering this because I'd known this for years.
I've known this for freaking years that this was a problem.
It's you call it the first or RTD calls it
the first mile free. I call it the last mile free,

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because that's how I would use it. Now, let's think
about the practical implications of they're going to provide you
know those Lime and what are the others? Line, there's
another one? What's the other one? Dragon lime and something else?
Lime Lime, We're Bird. You can rent an eascooter or
bike from Lime or Bird as usual, but now right

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now it's only for those two stations. Now, think about
how that's gonna work. Because this is a fatally flawed idea,
and if the idea is to reduce emissions, let's walk
through how this will really work, because this shows you
how utterly stupid this idea is.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
Morning, Brownie and Dragon. Yeah, the current Rother report for Pavilion,
Wyoming is sixty six degrees with an expected high of
eighty two. You're welcome, have a great weekend.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Where are you what's your altitude? I need to know
your altitude. I need to know your coordinates. We want
to know exactly where you are. We want to hunt
you down. So let's go back to this pilot program
that RTD is going to do, because when you think
through first, I'd just like to say to the to
the I'm not student at the University of Denver. Well,

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it's a graduate student, so maybe he's happened. I'm not
Joel Cox. I don't know you, Joel, but I hate
to tell you. But there's an old saying there's nothing
new under the sun. Well, I've been thinking about this
issue for years, years and years, and maybe somebody thought
about it long before I did. But they call it

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the first mile free. To me, it's it would be
the last mile free because As I said earlier, this
is this is RTD's plan to get more people to
use transportation, because at least the RTD people recognize that
one of the reasons that we don't use RTD is
because one, we don't want to ride with all the

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druggies and inhale the Fentinel and you know, and get
off at a stop and get mugged and all that.
And we don't necessarily trust your reliability and dependability either,
nor do we want to, you know, be on the
train when it crashes in or we don't want to
use the A line to go out to the airport.
And you know, because well it's reliability is who knows

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what percentage it is. But you don't want to be
stuck on a train watching your plane. Can you imagine
that you're sitting on the train trying to get to
the to the terminal and you see your flight take off.
Oh yeah, there it goes. Well, here I sit on
in the broken down on air conditioned in the not
record summer heat of ninety five degrees. Oh my gosh,

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whiners everywhere. So I get in the beamer, I drive
to the Loan Tree Station park my car, get out,
wait for a train. Take the train down to the
Bellevue station. Now I've got to walk. Now, if this
pilot program we're here at the Bellevue station, here's what

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I would do. I would get on the Lime scooter,
which they're all They're all over the place anyway. I've
always told you about there. You know, there's always a
dozen of them hanging around the McDonalds or at the Yes.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Okay, neat and tidy put up in a little bike
rack and everything. They're not just strewn in the middle
of the parking lot or almost in the streets.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
In fact, I am so obsessed with how neatly they
are lined up in those racks over by the McDonalds
that it just my OCD kicks in and it's so
satisfying to see them, because no, not not very often,
but occasionally people will just like lean them up against

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you know, a light pole or traffic signal, or they'll just.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Be an empty parking space.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
They'll they'll just lay them across the side of the sidewalk,
or they'll lay them against the curb. And I just
find that, I mean, that's very that's very very rare.
That rarely happens everyf in the day it happens, but
that's beside the point. So I would get to Bellevue station,
and then I would search for and hope that they're

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you know that all of the Now I'm probably early
enough that there would still be a scooter for me
to take. Now that's going to be kind of interesting
because I've got a diet coke in one end and
my backpack. I guess we're show I guess I'd drive
with my free hand while I hold my diet coke
and get my scooter. And then I take the scooter
and I come down Bellevue or actually I wouldn't do

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Bellevue because there's too much traffic. So I would take
this what I take Union, and I'd come over here
and it would bring me right to the station. And
then I would take the scooter and I go around
to the employee hentrance on the back of the building,
and I would just throw the scooter to the side
and come in the building. Now that's one less scooter

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available to anybody else for the last mile at the
Bellevue station. That scooter's gonna sit back here behind this
building until the Lime or the what's the other company,
The Lime or I never can remember you said bird Er. Yeah,
well let's just use lime. So the lime scooter will

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sit behind the iHeart death start until their GPS or
somebody says, oh, there's a scooter that's been sitting behind
this building for two days. Now what do they do? Well,
they drive a pickup or some sort of van or
something which is spewing CO two. That could be an

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electric van, Okay, so they charge the electric van which
still emits CO two. So they charge the electric van,
or they drive the internal combustion van, and they drive
all the way from wherever their headquarters are, wherever their
distribution point is, and they drive all the way over
here and pick up that one scooter, and then they
pick up all the other scooters that all these people

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that work in this area have now used, and they
pick them all up and they take them back or
to Bellevue Station. Meanwhile, until that happens, there are no
scooters at Bellevue Station, So the last free mile is
still a problem. There aren't enough scooters unless you want

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to create enough scooters for everybody to do that, and
then that if I'm not the only one. But let's
say that somebody that works in one of these office
buildings over here, or somebody decides that no, they they're
really going somewhere over into Greenwood Village, so they take
the scooter even further so it's further away. Or somebody

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takes over here to these condos, or they go over
to the microcenter on the other side of Union, they
go somewhere else. They got to gather up all those
scooters and then bring them back. This is fatally flawed,
but it's free. It's free. Oh wait a minute, free,
except that RTD awarded the first Mile Free Program more

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than one hundred and twenty thousand dollars on Tuesday, August five,
this week, to be spread out over two years. The
money will go to the West Corridor Transportation Management Association,
which will run the pilot after partnering with Cox to
apply for the grant. Lyman Bird will contribute an additional

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twenty four more than twenty four thousand dollars the program,
as well as provide a twenty five percent discount on
rides that are part of the pilot. That's estimated at
value of more than forty thousand dollars. Okay, let's add
this up. So we got one hundred twenty two thousand
dollars from RTD. We have twenty four thousand dollars from

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Liman Bird, and then we have a discount of forty thousand,
so you got sixty four thousand added to So you
get one hundred and eighty one hundred, almost two hundred
thousand dollars for a free program. A free program. Now,

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if a trip is longer than one mile, the program
will provide the first oh, that's where they get the name.
If the trip is longer than one mile, the program
will provide the first mile for free. Then you will
be charged the rest of the cost as normal if
a trip. If a trip is shorter than one mile,

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then it's fully covered. In other words, it's still not
free for me. Well, it's not free anyway, because somebody's
paying for it. But it's not free. And because it's
more than a mile from where I would park over
to Bell Station, it's still going to cost me. Let's
see what else to say. Pending First Mile Freeze success

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in this initial pilot program, I'll hope to reapply for
the grant next year at a larger scale, or maybe
look at other grants or other funding sources. Says this student.
He says, the two pilot stations were chosen because they
are multimodal transit hubs that are both experiencing strong dips
in ridership despite serving populations of drastically different incomes, demographics

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and vehicle access rates. You know what's not in this story.
If you chose those two stations because they are multimodal
transit hubs that are experiencing strong dips in ridership, did
you ever stop and think maybe you ought to find

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out what the cause is for the dip in writership?

Speaker 5 (26:57):
Michael, here's the thought. You know, RTD has no skin
in the game when it comes to their reliability. Maybe
when there's a passenger who misses their flight because the
a line broke, RTD needs to pay for the change
ticket or whatever. Maybe then they'll realize they need to

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get that thing working.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Right.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
I love the idea. I appreciate the sentiment. Now let
me kill your idea.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
You got a follow through on that'd be very difficult. Well,
you got to prove when you got on that you
had enough.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Not only that this dragon. Let's yeah, turn the lawyer
brain on and let's go to the very beginning. The
contract of carriage, which will deny any liability whatsoever for
any sort of you know, peripheral kind of damages that
are incurred by the use of the transit system.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Kind of like when you buy a ticket to a
sporting event. They don't guarantee your safety, even getting hit
by a hockey puck or a base exactly. They're not
going to pay for your change of fare ticket. No, no, But.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
We loved it. Don't get us wrong. We're not being critical.
We love the sentiment. We absolutely love the sentiment. But
it ain't gonna happen now. I want to finish this
because I've had this story of my pos for quite
some time, and it comes from Denveright, and I've kept
it because I knew at some point we'd be talking
about this, but I kept it for this particular reason.

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The headlining the story in Denveright is our t D
has a new solution for the last mile problems scooters
and e bikes. Naturally, that caught my attention. But here's
the one that really proves my point, your honor, I
rest my case Denver's back. This is the subhead within
the story, Denver's balancing Act with scooters micro mobility scooters,

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those of the line bikes we're talking about, had been
controversial since they were deployed all moss to major cities
over the last decade, drawing criticism that they're dangerous and unregulated.
So Denver's been cracking down on the services. In May,
the Denver City Council unanimously approved a new law to
keep writers off city sidewalks and to ensure the scooters

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aren't left in random or obstructing places. That law takes
effect next summer. Wait a minute, a new law to
keep those scooters off sidewalks? Where does that put them? Okay,
if I'm not on the sidewalk outside Bellevue station to

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go over to the McDonald's and to the crosswalk, and
I cross over to the sidewalk on the other side
of the street. If I can no longer do that,
where does that put me? That puts me on Bellevue,
a heavily traveled arterial street that now at five o'clock
in the morning, it's not very busy. But during the day,

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if you've ever tried to get on or off I
twenty five, I'm sorry, the twenty five at Bellevue, you
know that that is always backed up. It's one of
the most horrific interchanges in the entire city. I never
use it to except at five o'clock in the morning
when I go home, I go home a different way
because it's just awful, awful, awful, awful, and nobody knows

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how to get onto it expressway anyway. So now our
TD is going to say, hey, we're going to provide
you so called free scooters, but then the City and
County of Denver says, but you can't use them on
a sidewalk. Now we're gonna put scooters in the streets.
So for all of you that are worried about you know,

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the bikes and the motorcycles and everything, now you got
to worry about the scooters too.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Ooh ooh, can we add a we've got the car
lanes for cars, We've got the bike lanes. You are
kit we have a scooter only lanes.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
A scooter only lane.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
That would be so beautiful.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
So now we'll have we'll take like we'll take Bellevue
and reduce it from it's it's it's actually six lanes
in some places three, so we'll reduce it down to
just two lanes because we'll need a motorcycle lane, a
bike lane, and a scooter lane. I forgot about the motorcycles. Yeah, yeah,

(31:26):
by the way, I saw a motorcycle. Somebody answered this question.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
For me.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Going home yesterday, I used the express lane on four
seventy because you know, usually by three o'clock it's so
backed up that it's worth paying eighty cents. At least
it is to me to get home quicker to avoid
that entire backup. It's just like like for five miles.
So I'll pay the eighty cents. But there was a motorcycle.

(31:51):
Motorcycles were exempt from paying the tolls, but the motorcycle
was weaving back and forth across the double white line
in and out of traffic. Now, because they are exempt
from the toll, are they also exempt from weaving back
and forth across the double white line? Because if they are,

(32:15):
I think that's a violation of the Equal Protection Clause.
I think that's unconstitutional. Why should they be able to
cross the double white line when I can't without paying,
you know, a seventy five dollars fine. And then that
got me as I was watching this motorcycle and I
was I was praying, dear Lord, do not do not

(32:38):
let him as he weaves in and out of that traffic.
Do not let him have a wreck. Oh I was praying,
so sincerely, do not let it happen. Do not let
it happen. But then I got to thinking, you know,
I go to Phoenix because you know my daughter and
granddaughter and son in law. There, they have the double

(32:59):
white lines because on the on the one O one,
for example, the one on one's the best example, because
everybody on the one o one drives two hundred and
twenty seven miles an hour on average. They have the
similar hov Express lanes and they have the doubles white line.

(33:20):
But you can cross in and out at any time.
There are no signs, there are no cameras. And guess
what I asked my daughter about this the other day.
I said, so are there a lot of at least
when I'm there and I'm riding with you and we
cross the double white line, I've never never feared like

(33:41):
having an accident. And of course everybody's driving two thirty
seven miles an hour. Oh no, no, there there are
very few accidents on the one oh one. So why
is it in Colorado that we have to have cameras
and fines, and we've got this not on government, you know,
private little group over here that imposes the fines and

(34:04):
then they can block your car registration. My god, that
we live in a communist state. I know Arizona's got
its own problems, but the double white line is not
a problem in Arizona. Why do we make it a
problem in Colorado?

Speaker 4 (34:20):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (34:21):
I think I know why? Control? Yeah, because we're a communist.
We're a communist state, common Colorado. So anyway, RTD, there
you go. You've got the last first three mile, last
three mile, and you're gonna put scooters. You're in here now,
gonna put the scooters in the street. Oh my god,

(34:41):
I love this freaking place. It's so so stupid.