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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Michael and Dragon. I don't know why it is,
but I can't stop watching the clip of the young
Ukrainian woman getting stabbed on.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
The light rail.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Perhaps it's because I keep thinking of my daughter, the sweet,
innocent and trusting of everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Dragon has no idea in what order. In fact, he
doesn't even know what stories often that I plan to
do correct and certainly doesn't know the order in which
I plan to do them. And in fact, I oftentimes
don't know what order I'm going to do them. It
just depends on you know. As I'm taking my pe
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break and walking around the building, I'm thinking about, Okay,
what do I think? You know, I know what's in
my I know what's in my tabs, and I know
what I've got in my notes, So what's coming up next?
But I think because of that talkback and the fact
that you don't know, can you play that talkback, I
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want to talk about Arena Zerutzka for just a moment.
Played that talk back again. Good morning, Michael and Dragon.
I don't know why it is, but I can't stop
watching the clip of the young Ukrainian woman getting stabbed
on the light rail.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Perhaps it's because I keep thinking of my daughter, the sweet,
innocent and trusting of everybody.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
There are precious few people who I think should be
required to watch the video that was released yesterday of
the Ukrainian refugee Irena Zerutzka. I. I have yet to
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see a compilation of all of the CCTV from the
light rail of the entire incident. I've now seen a
couple of snippets, and I've seen several still photographs. But
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the thing that strikes me the most about what I've
seen so far, well have several things strike me, but
let's start with this. She slowly is dying as she
cowers in what appears you know, when she when she
first gets stabbed, there is a look of bewilderment on
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her face, as if you know, the the pain the
body immediately reacts to the stabbing, and and and and
the brain causes that to occur. She knows something's happened,
but she's not quite sure yet.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
The pain with WTF, what the just happened to me?
And I don't know what it was?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Right, She's not, it's this, it's this. Few nanoseconds of
the pain in the shock have not you know, traveled
through her body yet.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
And no, I'm not going to put those videos up.
You can go you find those on your own.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
But as I watched, she really has this look of
bewilderment that then turns to abject fear. Then I see
different photos and video of people. There's a heavyset black
woman that's on the opposite side across the aisle, maybe
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a couple of rows in front of her, who kind
of looks to her left, like what's that. A couple
of people do the same thing. People get off as
the train stops and kind of looked at her as
they exit the train. Then I finally found some still
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photos of.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
A young man whom I hope they find.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
This guy who tries to render aid. He takes he
takes a jacket off. He I don't collfee took his
shirt off or not, but he takes some clothing off,
and he's trying to stop the bleeding.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
He's trying to, you know, put it into the wounds.
He's trying to do. My guess is he has no
clue what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Other than he's got to stop the bleeding and he's
trying to do that. And then there's a still photo
of a guy who is standing with his phone over
her body as she's now fallen off the seats onto
the floor, or taking a photograph.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So I go back to my point that there are
really precious few people who should be required to watch
this video, rubberneckers on the Internet who look at it
through some sort of depraved interest. I feel guilty looking
at it because I feel like I'm intruding on the
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family's private grief. That the family's private grief has now
become public and is all over the interwebs, and everybody
sees it, so not her family. Do you think her
family wants to watch it? There may come a time
when they want to see it to see what happened
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to their daughter, But for them, it's got to be
the worst nightmare that they could possibly imagine come alive.
But you know who, we'll have to work watch that video,
every video and every still photograph. A jury, or I
should rephrase that and say a jury should have to
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watch it. I say have to watch it because there's
no guarantee that this case will ever get to a jury,
because there may be a plea bargain, so it may
never make it to a jury. And I think there
are two other groups who should be required to watch
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the video. Everyone who claims to be a Democrat and
every member of the media, the cabal, including Fox News
who has covered it, but they should be required to
watch every I mean, whatever the cops have, everybody in
the media should be required to watch every single second
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of the video.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I am a bit disappointed in the need, more than
a bit because when we were finding out initial stories
about what had happened, and the reports were saying that
other passengers came to her aid immediately after watching some
of this stumbling upon I didn't I didn't go searching
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for this. It appeared in my timeline, and I'm very
upset that I happened to have that this is out there. Sorry,
but there are four other people in the camera frame
as this is happening, and nobody. Nobody helped her. She
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slunk down in her chair, fell off her chair into
a fetal position.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
One of the people everywhere.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
One of the people got up and walked away. Now,
the reporting was very different than what the video feed shows.
The video shows that one guy walked away, the other
three people sat there. The reporting was ah people came
to her aid. And tried to save her life.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, one person after everybody else had left, tried to
save her life.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
And my guess is it was too late.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
And I say to Democrats in the media, because they've
created this nightmare, so they should be forced to see
the uncomfortable truth and the direct result of what they
have done. If this horrifying act doesn't finally force the
media and Democrats for them both to confront the deadly
consequences of their support for these soft and crime policies,
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open border policies, then whatever will, nothing will. For years,
they've looked away. They've come up with all sorts of excuses. Actually,
they've celebrated policies that empower these predators and silence the victims.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
And the result is.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Obviously predictable, more grieving families, more stolen lives, more communities
that are forced to live in fear. I don't know
what it is about this particular murder. I think it is,
and unlike Dragon, I have gone searching. But I've gone
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searching because I know that my job is to discuss
and talk about it and to tell you what I
think about it, And so I go searching for it.
And I think, what bothers me the most is to
the talkback point. That could have been my daughter, It
could have been your daughter, it could have been any
family member. But here she is, still in her work uniform,
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on her phone like everybody else is these days, on
her phone, sitting.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
On a light rail.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
RTD and just try to go home, having escaped the
war in Ukraine, made it here as a refugee, got
a job, and is just doing what average Americans do.
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And as she sat there, I thought about how many
times I have sat somewhere. Yeah, I got a haircut yesterday.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
So as I as I'm getting the haircut and I'm
and I'm on my iPad and I'm doing show prep
and I'm digging around looking for.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
This video, I realized that where I'm sitting now, granted
I'm in a barber shop, and it's you know, who
could think of who could have thought of anything would
happen in the barbershop, But who could have thought of
that anything would happen on a light rail in Charlotte,
North Carolina. I can imagine something would happen in Denver, Colorado,
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but I haven't been to Charlotte in quite a while,
and I've ridden the light rail in Charlotte, So I
don't know what it's like Atlanta. Yes, I can soly
imagine it in Atlanta. I can imagine on the Metro
in DC. I can imagine on the New York City subway.
But I sat there and I thought, how easy would
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it be? Even though I am one of these weirdos
that is always trying to be situationally aware of what's
going on around me, the way that occurred, you could
be as situationally aware. Well maybe not. I mean, there
are probably things you could have done differently, But why
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should we expect her to do that? Only perverts like
me who have who understand the dangers of the world.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Why why?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Why should why should that innocent girl who escaped the
war be worried about the fact that somebody that she
didn't even pay me attention to, that she didn't even
she doesn't even give any notice. I mean, she may
have consciously heard that somebody sat down behind her, but
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why would she have any reason to fear?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Now?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Being the weirdo that I am, I probably would have
turned around and looked, I want to know who's sitting
behind me.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
It's not her talking about fear? Here too.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Let me let me get my point back in here
about the media and how disrespectful they are as to
the situation that happened. I'm gonna read. You read a headlining,
you try and figure out where it came from. How
the lives of a Ukrainian refugee and a Charlotte man
with a criminal history converged in a fatal stabbing.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
That's awful.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
That is a headline from a major news network. That's
from a cable news network that was posted yesterday. How
the lives of a Ukrainian refugee and a Charlotte with
a criminal history converged in a fatal stabbing.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Have you read the story yet? No?
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Again, I'm just the headline guy.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Curious in that story they talk about how it did converge,
because that.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Is the story it implies, I know, the headlight right
to me, it's just the headline guy here.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
It just says, what did she do?
Speaker 4 (13:24):
She must have done something.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Right they converge because they didn't converge.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
No, there was no convergence going on there. But I
bet the story does not talk. I mean it does mention,
you know, with a criminal history, But did they ever
draw a causal link between the criminal history and the
criminal act on the light rail. Then Democrat politicians and
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the cabal pretend that this tragedy and callous others like it.
They often pretend it doesn't they don't even exist, or
they do. Like the headline that dragon just read that.
They try to whitewash it, They tried to dilute it,
They try to somehow soften it that, oh, these lives
just converge. Isn't that fascinating that the lives converge. They
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ignore the victims, they downplay the crimes, and they allow
these failings of our criminal justice system, our mental health system,
of the judicial system, of all of these systems to
just faster, year after year after year after year. The
uncomfortable truth is that tragedies like the one in Charlotte
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are the inevitable result of Democrat policies that put the
rights of criminals over the safety of innocence. And it's
taken a horrible tone, not just some strangers, but on
individual lives, people that you and I will never know,
never meet, but people fellow citizens all across this fruited plain.
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This has been visited upon them too. I came across
one story reads like this decades. This is an example
of what I mean about other people. Decades after my
boyfriend and his best friend were killed by three brothers,
two of whom walked free despite criminal records, and the
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third was sentenced to only a few years, I fled
New York after watching my quality of life crumble under
the weight of failed policies that empowered criminals and punished victims.
When it came time to relocate, I carefully weighed my options.
One was rock Hill or Fort Mill, South Carolina, close
to Charlotte, and the other was Florida. I knew Charlotte
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was volatile and unsafe, just like so many other Democrat
run cities across the country. Why would I uproot my
family from one blue state that endangered us only to
live near another city I by the same bail reform
and the same social justice nonsense. So I chose Florida,
and I'm grateful every day that I did. She certainly
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didn't think about Colorado, did she. She certainly didn't think
about Denver, did she? And I want to be clear
about something. This is not about race, no matter how
desperately some will try to frame it that way. This
about what is right and what is wrong? Predators like
this dirt bag belong behind bars, and quite frankly, parenthetically,
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I hope that he gets what I expect will come
to him when he gets behind bars.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I don't care.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
You can say that that's that's a very unchristian attitude
of your here's yeah, well, you know what, I'm not perfect.
Every time they get released, another victim gets created. This
girl's attacker, do you think you know? Maybe because we
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have video, maybe because it is so gruesome that there
will be some serious justice meeted out here. This woman
should still be alive. Lcoln Riley should still be alive. Life,
Rachel Marin should still be alive. Just Nungary should still
be alive. But list just goes on and on and on.
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These young women are not stats. They are daughters, friends,
loved ones who were stolen because lawmakers that are supposed
to represent this country valued the term equity for criminals
over the lives of innocent victims. And this cycle plays.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Out over and over and over.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
How many times do we allow it to happen before
admitting the truth. At some point, society has to draw
a live de terrence matters whether it's a long prison
sentence harsher measures. There must be real consequences for those
who intend harm others.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
My understanding is that Arena's family was asked if they
wanted her bodyship to Ukraine, and they replied that she
would have wanted to have been buried in the US,
that she absolutely loved the US of A. That's really
what I wish people who come here would believe and
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want to be part of the US. But it's very
apparent most don't. They might be escaping something, but they
certainly don't want to be a part of this country.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, she wanted to be a she wanted to live
here and be a part of the country. She wanted
to assimilate. She wanted to be an American. She wanted
to be an American. Now I know that that is
driven in part by what she was facing in her
home country. But if if that causes you to want
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to be an American and you do it the correct way,
which she did by coming here as a refugee, then
God bless her. Let's go back to these Democrat policies.
I'm just I'm pausing as I'm thinking for a second
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that maybe not in this audience. But some may think
that I'm mean partisan here. I don't think so. I
think I mean factual because Democrat policies, as I said
before the break, they follow a predictable pattern, and that
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pattern is very destructive. You implement bail reform, well, that
ensures that criminals are released almost immediately, no cash bail.
Speaker 7 (19:56):
You know.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
The argument on the left is, well, that's unfair because
some poor people can't afford bail.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Well, then don't commit the freaking crime.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Don't commit the crime where you're put in a position
where you can't afford the bail, because if you can't
afford the bail, then you ought to sit your ass
in jail until you get your trial.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Loser, thank you.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Sanctuary policies like in Denver, Colorado, Mike Johnston and Jared Polis.
Those policies shield dangerous offenders from deportation. It is freaking
unbelievable to me that I want to believe that cops
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disagree with the sanctuary city policies, but I don't know.
Maybe they do, But I would also like to believe
that cops when they have someone in custody for having
committed a crime. I don't care how serious the crime is,
but they've committed a crime, they've broken the law. I
would like to think that most cops, in the course
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of their investigation, while they've got the thug in the
back seat of the car, or they've got the thug
going through the booking process, that they determine or believe
that that is an illegal alien, that they don't want
to pick up the phone and call the local Ice
office and say, hey, we got a guy here that
we're booking on an assault and battery charge or a
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murder charge. And by the way, we want you to
know that he's in the Denver County jail while we
process him, and he's also appears to be an illegal alien.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
You might want to check it out.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
And by the way, if you want to come down
and interview with him, uh, you know, the door's open
and you know we'll let you in.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
But no, they can't even do that.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I want, I want to believe the cops want to
do that, but they're prevented to do prevent it from
doing that by the Democrats that implement those policies, Those
same sanctuary policies, the open borders flood communities with unvetted individuals,
and then they go on to commit these horrific crimes,
and then we act like we're shocked by it. And
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yet Democrats will stand at podiums calling these policies progressive
and that they're compassionate. Will bite my ass. Tell that
to the families planning the funerals. Tell that to the
parents laying flowers on their children's graves. Tell that to
the parents of this young lady. Oh, we were trying
to be compassionate. Really, where was the compassion for her?
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If you want to play the partisanship card, have at it,
because guess what, it's not partisan for the victims. For
the victims, it's a matter of life and death. And really,
you know, I really do get tired of this.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Dragon.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I were commenting to each other during the break, how
much we love our work, we love our jobs. There
are days like this when I'd rather just turn this
microphone off and go home because I'm tired of it.
I'm really, really tired of it progressivism. You're telling me
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you're compassionate. Really, when do we reach the tipping point
where we say enough is enough? When do we start
demanding of elected officials at every level of government? It's
not just Congress, it's the stupid, dumbass mayor of Denver,
it's the stupid dumbass governor of.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Colorado that.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Prioritize ideology over public safety. It's time to end cashless,
technically unsecured bail, particularly for violent offenders. Now, if you've
been trespassing, or you've been loitering or something, you know, cashless, man,
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I don't care. But if you've engaged in any sort
of true property crime. You know, you've committed a burglary,
you've robbed a bank, you've assaulted, you've battered somebody, you've
murdered somebody, you've committed manslaughter, then you know what, come
up with the bail or spend your assent in jail.
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Scrap every sanctuary policy that protects the criminals over citizens.
Enforce immigration laws to prevent tragedies.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Before they happen again.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Now this guy, this dirt bag, goes and sits. You know,
I think that story dragon has the sequence, has the
events out of sequence, because I think that he was
already she.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Stepped onto the train and sat down. He came in
after she was seated and sat behind her. Drive that backwards.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
I think you have that backwards she came in and
sat after he was already sick at the window.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Regardless of what the sequence is, she got on a train,
why should we fear getting on a train? It goes
back to my whole theory that we prioritize the wrong
kind of spending. If light rail, if our td is,
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or the stations or the trains themselves are both are
hot beds of crime, or there's any crime at all.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Where's the security.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Well, the security is put into oh, I don't know,
some you know, ephemeral homelessness program that's never going to
solve homelessness, but it's going to enrich the pockets of
whoever's involved in the homelessness industry. Enforce the immigration laws
to prevent the tragedies before they happen. Demand accountability from
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judges and lawmakers who enable these repeat offenders. Democrats like
to call their soft in crime and open border agendas compassionate.
What's compassionate about women being raped in parks and then
beaten to death, Students being murdered, Families bearing their loved
ones Because a repeat, a violent offender is allowed to
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roam free. And this is no longer an abstract experiment,
this is deadly and it is yes, And let me
make a transition here. It is deadly to the families,
deadly to the victims, but it is also deadly to
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our society. It is fracturing the cohesiveness of this society.
And maybe again it's because of my background, and it's
because of what I do for a living and what
I've done for a living. But if if I spend
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even a nanosecond in a barbershop thinking about where I'm
sitting or how people could get to me and attack me,
as opposed to just I don't know, reading the comics
on my iPad, or reading the Wall Street Journal or
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just talking to my barber as we get ready to
get a haircut. When you call your policy, the soft
on crime policies, compassionate, it is not compassionate. It is deadly.
And the bottom line is that Democrats have blood on
their hands. Mike Johnston, Jared, all of you blue state governors,
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you blue city gut mayors, all of you Democrats that
perpetuate these policies, you literally have blood on your hands.
You are the cause of these things happen.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
Michael, I heard an interesting analogy yesterday about all this
that's going on. Do we hold bartenders at a higher
standard than we do judges. A bartender that serves a
person who is knowingly drunk over and over again can
be charged if that person commits dui. So is a
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judge no different when they let these criminals out over
and over again or not holding them accountable. Kind of
an interesting analogy, and I think we should think about it.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I think it's a very very interesting analogy. And so
is this from seventeen twelve, Mike. I've got an idea
the names of the judges that release dirt bags who
soon go on to murder and injure innocence. Will that
possibly in danger the judges?
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Maybe?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
But public shame has some value here. It's been done
in the past.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
It's probably in public record, right, it would be.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
It's a public record who the judge is. And there
have been past instances. I can't I couldn't game you
any specific examples, but I know I've read of specific
examples where a judge has been vilified publicly because they
let somebody out on a cashless mail and then they
committed a crime. They raped a child, they molested a child,
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They did you know, they raped a woman, they did
whatever whatever it was they did, and the local media
picked it up, splashed the judge's face all over the
newspaper that this is the judge that let this criminal out,
and now the judge is facing public shame.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Does it endanger the judge's life? I don't know. I
hope not.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
But if you're going to endanger our lives, why should
I give two hoots about whether or not your life's
in danger. I'm not advocating that, I'm just saying, why
should I care. You've endangered us by your actions, and
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you have knowingly and willfully done so. You have failed
as a judge. You should be impeached and removed. But obviously,
in a progressive state like Colorado, that ain't gonna happen. Oh,
we've had a prosecutor disbarred recently, we've had a judge
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to get their hands slapped, but we haven't really had
the kind of public shaming that perhaps we should have.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
When you become a.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Judge, you're held to a much higher standard, and the
public should be able to look upon the judiciary as
that objective, fair minded group of people who are going to.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Follow the rule of law.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Now if they're following the rule of law that says, hey,
I can't force you, I'm not allowed to impose a
cash bail on you, then our attention should turn to
the Pulop Bureau and the governor and make them change
those policies
Good morning, Michael and Dragon. I don't know why it is,
but I can't stop watching the clip of the young
Ukrainian woman getting stabbed on.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
The light rail.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Perhaps it's because I keep thinking of my daughter, the sweet,
innocent and trusting of everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Dragon has no idea in what order. In fact, he
doesn't even know what stories often that I plan to
do correct and certainly doesn't know the order in which
I plan to do them. And in fact, I oftentimes
don't know what order I'm going to do them. It
just depends on you know. As I'm taking my pe
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break and walking around the building, I'm thinking about, Okay,
what do I think? You know, I know what's in
my I know what's in my tabs, and I know
what I've got in my notes, So what's coming up next?
But I think because of that talkback and the fact
that you don't know, can you play that talkback, I
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want to talk about Arena Zerutzka for just a moment.
Played that talk back again. Good morning, Michael and Dragon.
I don't know why it is, but I can't stop
watching the clip of the young Ukrainian woman getting stabbed
on the light rail.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Perhaps it's because I keep thinking of my daughter, the sweet,
innocent and trusting of everybody.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
There are precious few people who I think should be
required to watch the video that was released yesterday of
the Ukrainian refugee Irena Zerutzka. I. I have yet to
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see a compilation of all of the CCTV from the
light rail of the entire incident. I've now seen a
couple of snippets, and I've seen several still photographs. But
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the thing that strikes me the most about what I've
seen so far, well have several things strike me, but
let's start with this. She slowly is dying as she
cowers in what appears you know, when she when she
first gets stabbed, there is a look of bewilderment on
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her face, as if you know, the the pain the
body immediately reacts to the stabbing, and and and and
the brain causes that to occur. She knows something's happened,
but she's not quite sure yet.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
The pain with WTF, what the just happened to me?
And I don't know what it was?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Right, She's not, it's this, it's this. Few nanoseconds of
the pain in the shock have not you know, traveled
through her body yet.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
And no, I'm not going to put those videos up.
You can go you find those on your own.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
But as I watched, she really has this look of
bewilderment that then turns to abject fear. Then I see
different photos and video of people. There's a heavyset black
woman that's on the opposite side across the aisle, maybe
(03:52):
a couple of rows in front of her, who kind
of looks to her left, like what's that. A couple
of people do the same thing. People get off as
the train stops and kind of looked at her as
they exit the train. Then I finally found some still
(04:15):
photos of.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
A young man whom I hope they find.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
This guy who tries to render aid. He takes he
takes a jacket off. He I don't collfee took his
shirt off or not, but he takes some clothing off,
and he's trying to stop the bleeding.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
He's trying to, you know, put it into the wounds.
He's trying to do. My guess is he has no
clue what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Other than he's got to stop the bleeding and he's
trying to do that. And then there's a still photo
of a guy who is standing with his phone over
her body as she's now fallen off the seats onto
the floor, or taking a photograph.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So I go back to my point that there are
really precious few people who should be required to watch
this video, rubberneckers on the Internet who look at it
through some sort of depraved interest. I feel guilty looking
at it because I feel like I'm intruding on the
(05:27):
family's private grief. That the family's private grief has now
become public and is all over the interwebs, and everybody
sees it, so not her family. Do you think her
family wants to watch it? There may come a time
when they want to see it to see what happened
(05:50):
to their daughter, But for them, it's got to be
the worst nightmare that they could possibly imagine come alive.
But you know who, we'll have to work watch that video,
every video and every still photograph. A jury, or I
should rephrase that and say a jury should have to
(06:12):
watch it. I say have to watch it because there's
no guarantee that this case will ever get to a jury,
because there may be a plea bargain, so it may
never make it to a jury. And I think there
are two other groups who should be required to watch
(06:33):
the video. Everyone who claims to be a Democrat and
every member of the media, the cabal, including Fox News
who has covered it, but they should be required to
watch every I mean, whatever the cops have, everybody in
the media should be required to watch every single second
(06:57):
of the video.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I am a bit disappointed in the need, more than
a bit because when we were finding out initial stories
about what had happened, and the reports were saying that
other passengers came to her aid immediately after watching some
of this stumbling upon I didn't I didn't go searching
(07:20):
for this. It appeared in my timeline, and I'm very
upset that I happened to have that this is out there. Sorry,
but there are four other people in the camera frame
as this is happening, and nobody. Nobody helped her. She
(07:40):
slunk down in her chair, fell off her chair into
a fetal position.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
One of the people everywhere.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
One of the people got up and walked away. Now,
the reporting was very different than what the video feed shows.
The video shows that one guy walked away, the other
three people sat there. The reporting was ah people came
to her aid. And tried to save her life.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, one person after everybody else had left, tried to
save her life.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
And my guess is it was too late.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
And I say to Democrats in the media, because they've
created this nightmare, so they should be forced to see
the uncomfortable truth and the direct result of what they
have done. If this horrifying act doesn't finally force the
media and Democrats for them both to confront the deadly
consequences of their support for these soft and crime policies,
(08:38):
open border policies, then whatever will, nothing will. For years,
they've looked away. They've come up with all sorts of excuses. Actually,
they've celebrated policies that empower these predators and silence the victims.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
And the result is.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Obviously predictable, more grieving families, more stolen lives, more communities
that are forced to live in fear. I don't know
what it is about this particular murder. I think it is,
and unlike Dragon, I have gone searching. But I've gone
(09:22):
searching because I know that my job is to discuss
and talk about it and to tell you what I
think about it, And so I go searching for it.
And I think, what bothers me the most is to
the talkback point. That could have been my daughter, It
could have been your daughter, it could have been any
family member. But here she is, still in her work uniform,
(09:49):
on her phone like everybody else is these days, on
her phone, sitting.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
On a light rail.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
RTD and just try to go home, having escaped the
war in Ukraine, made it here as a refugee, got
a job, and is just doing what average Americans do.
(10:16):
And as she sat there, I thought about how many
times I have sat somewhere. Yeah, I got a haircut yesterday.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
So as I as I'm getting the haircut and I'm
and I'm on my iPad and I'm doing show prep
and I'm digging around looking for.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
This video, I realized that where I'm sitting now, granted
I'm in a barber shop, and it's you know, who
could think of who could have thought of anything would
happen in the barbershop, But who could have thought of
that anything would happen on a light rail in Charlotte,
North Carolina. I can imagine something would happen in Denver, Colorado,
(10:57):
but I haven't been to Charlotte in quite a while,
and I've ridden the light rail in Charlotte, So I
don't know what it's like Atlanta. Yes, I can soly
imagine it in Atlanta. I can imagine on the Metro
in DC. I can imagine on the New York City subway.
But I sat there and I thought, how easy would
(11:17):
it be? Even though I am one of these weirdos
that is always trying to be situationally aware of what's
going on around me, the way that occurred, you could
be as situationally aware. Well maybe not. I mean, there
are probably things you could have done differently, But why
(11:38):
should we expect her to do that? Only perverts like
me who have who understand the dangers of the world.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Why why?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Why should why should that innocent girl who escaped the
war be worried about the fact that somebody that she
didn't even pay me attention to, that she didn't even
she doesn't even give any notice. I mean, she may
have consciously heard that somebody sat down behind her, but
(12:08):
why would she have any reason to fear?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Now?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Being the weirdo that I am, I probably would have
turned around and looked, I want to know who's sitting
behind me.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
It's not her talking about fear? Here too.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Let me let me get my point back in here
about the media and how disrespectful they are as to
the situation that happened. I'm gonna read. You read a headlining,
you try and figure out where it came from. How
the lives of a Ukrainian refugee and a Charlotte man
with a criminal history converged in a fatal stabbing.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
That's awful.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
That is a headline from a major news network. That's
from a cable news network that was posted yesterday. How
the lives of a Ukrainian refugee and a Charlotte with
a criminal history converged in a fatal stabbing.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Have you read the story yet? No?
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Again, I'm just the headline guy.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Curious in that story they talk about how it did converge,
because that.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Is the story it implies, I know, the headlight right
to me, it's just the headline guy here.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
It just says, what did she do?
Speaker 4 (13:24):
She must have done something.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Right they converge because they didn't converge.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
No, there was no convergence going on there. But I
bet the story does not talk. I mean it does mention,
you know, with a criminal history, But did they ever
draw a causal link between the criminal history and the
criminal act on the light rail. Then Democrat politicians and
(13:52):
the cabal pretend that this tragedy and callous others like it.
They often pretend it doesn't they don't even exist, or
they do. Like the headline that dragon just read that.
They try to whitewash it, They tried to dilute it,
They try to somehow soften it that, oh, these lives
just converge. Isn't that fascinating that the lives converge. They
(14:15):
ignore the victims, they downplay the crimes, and they allow
these failings of our criminal justice system, our mental health system,
of the judicial system, of all of these systems to
just faster, year after year after year after year. The
uncomfortable truth is that tragedies like the one in Charlotte
(14:40):
are the inevitable result of Democrat policies that put the
rights of criminals over the safety of innocence. And it's
taken a horrible tone, not just some strangers, but on
individual lives, people that you and I will never know,
never meet, but people fellow citizens all across this fruited plain.
(15:04):
This has been visited upon them too. I came across
one story reads like this decades. This is an example
of what I mean about other people. Decades after my
boyfriend and his best friend were killed by three brothers,
two of whom walked free despite criminal records, and the
(15:26):
third was sentenced to only a few years, I fled
New York after watching my quality of life crumble under
the weight of failed policies that empowered criminals and punished victims.
When it came time to relocate, I carefully weighed my options.
One was rock Hill or Fort Mill, South Carolina, close
to Charlotte, and the other was Florida. I knew Charlotte
(15:48):
was volatile and unsafe, just like so many other Democrat
run cities across the country. Why would I uproot my
family from one blue state that endangered us only to
live near another city I by the same bail reform
and the same social justice nonsense. So I chose Florida,
and I'm grateful every day that I did. She certainly
(16:09):
didn't think about Colorado, did she. She certainly didn't think
about Denver, did she? And I want to be clear
about something. This is not about race, no matter how
desperately some will try to frame it that way. This
about what is right and what is wrong? Predators like
this dirt bag belong behind bars, and quite frankly, parenthetically,
(16:33):
I hope that he gets what I expect will come
to him when he gets behind bars.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I don't care.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
You can say that that's that's a very unchristian attitude
of your here's yeah, well, you know what, I'm not perfect.
Every time they get released, another victim gets created. This
girl's attacker, do you think you know? Maybe because we
(17:00):
have video, maybe because it is so gruesome that there
will be some serious justice meeted out here. This woman
should still be alive. Lcoln Riley should still be alive. Life,
Rachel Marin should still be alive. Just Nungary should still
be alive. But list just goes on and on and on.
(17:21):
These young women are not stats. They are daughters, friends,
loved ones who were stolen because lawmakers that are supposed
to represent this country valued the term equity for criminals
over the lives of innocent victims. And this cycle plays.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Out over and over and over.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
How many times do we allow it to happen before
admitting the truth. At some point, society has to draw
a live de terrence matters whether it's a long prison
sentence harsher measures. There must be real consequences for those
who intend harm others.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
My understanding is that Arena's family was asked if they
wanted her bodyship to Ukraine, and they replied that she
would have wanted to have been buried in the US,
that she absolutely loved the US of A. That's really
what I wish people who come here would believe and
(18:29):
want to be part of the US. But it's very
apparent most don't. They might be escaping something, but they
certainly don't want to be a part of this country.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, she wanted to be a she wanted to live
here and be a part of the country. She wanted
to assimilate. She wanted to be an American. She wanted
to be an American. Now I know that that is
driven in part by what she was facing in her
home country. But if if that causes you to want
(19:02):
to be an American and you do it the correct way,
which she did by coming here as a refugee, then
God bless her. Let's go back to these Democrat policies.
I'm just I'm pausing as I'm thinking for a second
(19:22):
that maybe not in this audience. But some may think
that I'm mean partisan here. I don't think so. I
think I mean factual because Democrat policies, as I said
before the break, they follow a predictable pattern, and that
(19:44):
pattern is very destructive. You implement bail reform, well, that
ensures that criminals are released almost immediately, no cash bail.
Speaker 7 (19:56):
You know.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
The argument on the left is, well, that's unfair because
some poor people can't afford bail.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Well, then don't commit the freaking crime.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Don't commit the crime where you're put in a position
where you can't afford the bail, because if you can't
afford the bail, then you ought to sit your ass
in jail until you get your trial.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Loser, thank you.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Sanctuary policies like in Denver, Colorado, Mike Johnston and Jared Polis.
Those policies shield dangerous offenders from deportation. It is freaking
unbelievable to me that I want to believe that cops
(20:48):
disagree with the sanctuary city policies, but I don't know.
Maybe they do, But I would also like to believe
that cops when they have someone in custody for having
committed a crime. I don't care how serious the crime is,
but they've committed a crime, they've broken the law. I
would like to think that most cops, in the course
(21:09):
of their investigation, while they've got the thug in the
back seat of the car, or they've got the thug
going through the booking process, that they determine or believe
that that is an illegal alien, that they don't want
to pick up the phone and call the local Ice
office and say, hey, we got a guy here that
we're booking on an assault and battery charge or a
(21:31):
murder charge. And by the way, we want you to
know that he's in the Denver County jail while we
process him, and he's also appears to be an illegal alien.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
You might want to check it out.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
And by the way, if you want to come down
and interview with him, uh, you know, the door's open
and you know we'll let you in.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
But no, they can't even do that.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I want, I want to believe the cops want to
do that, but they're prevented to do prevent it from
doing that by the Democrats that implement those policies, Those
same sanctuary policies, the open borders flood communities with unvetted individuals,
and then they go on to commit these horrific crimes,
and then we act like we're shocked by it. And
(22:13):
yet Democrats will stand at podiums calling these policies progressive
and that they're compassionate. Will bite my ass. Tell that
to the families planning the funerals. Tell that to the
parents laying flowers on their children's graves. Tell that to
the parents of this young lady. Oh, we were trying
to be compassionate. Really, where was the compassion for her?
(22:39):
If you want to play the partisanship card, have at it,
because guess what, it's not partisan for the victims. For
the victims, it's a matter of life and death. And really,
you know, I really do get tired of this.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Dragon.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I were commenting to each other during the break, how
much we love our work, we love our jobs. There
are days like this when I'd rather just turn this
microphone off and go home because I'm tired of it.
I'm really, really tired of it progressivism. You're telling me
(23:21):
you're compassionate. Really, when do we reach the tipping point
where we say enough is enough? When do we start
demanding of elected officials at every level of government? It's
not just Congress, it's the stupid, dumbass mayor of Denver,
it's the stupid dumbass governor of.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Colorado that.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Prioritize ideology over public safety. It's time to end cashless,
technically unsecured bail, particularly for violent offenders. Now, if you've
been trespassing, or you've been loitering or something, you know, cashless, man,
(24:06):
I don't care. But if you've engaged in any sort
of true property crime. You know, you've committed a burglary,
you've robbed a bank, you've assaulted, you've battered somebody, you've
murdered somebody, you've committed manslaughter, then you know what, come
up with the bail or spend your assent in jail.
(24:31):
Scrap every sanctuary policy that protects the criminals over citizens.
Enforce immigration laws to prevent tragedies.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Before they happen again.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Now this guy, this dirt bag, goes and sits. You know,
I think that story dragon has the sequence, has the
events out of sequence, because I think that he was
already she.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Stepped onto the train and sat down. He came in
after she was seated and sat behind her. Drive that backwards.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
I think you have that backwards she came in and
sat after he was already sick at the window.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Regardless of what the sequence is, she got on a train,
why should we fear getting on a train? It goes
back to my whole theory that we prioritize the wrong
kind of spending. If light rail, if our td is,
(25:38):
or the stations or the trains themselves are both are
hot beds of crime, or there's any crime at all.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Where's the security.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Well, the security is put into oh, I don't know,
some you know, ephemeral homelessness program that's never going to
solve homelessness, but it's going to enrich the pockets of
whoever's involved in the homelessness industry. Enforce the immigration laws
to prevent the tragedies before they happen. Demand accountability from
(26:08):
judges and lawmakers who enable these repeat offenders. Democrats like
to call their soft in crime and open border agendas compassionate.
What's compassionate about women being raped in parks and then
beaten to death, Students being murdered, Families bearing their loved
ones Because a repeat, a violent offender is allowed to
(26:29):
roam free. And this is no longer an abstract experiment,
this is deadly and it is yes, And let me
make a transition here. It is deadly to the families,
deadly to the victims, but it is also deadly to
(26:52):
our society. It is fracturing the cohesiveness of this society.
And maybe again it's because of my background, and it's
because of what I do for a living and what
I've done for a living. But if if I spend
(27:18):
even a nanosecond in a barbershop thinking about where I'm
sitting or how people could get to me and attack me,
as opposed to just I don't know, reading the comics
on my iPad, or reading the Wall Street Journal or
(27:38):
just talking to my barber as we get ready to
get a haircut. When you call your policy, the soft
on crime policies, compassionate, it is not compassionate. It is deadly.
And the bottom line is that Democrats have blood on
their hands. Mike Johnston, Jared, all of you blue state governors,
(28:02):
you blue city gut mayors, all of you Democrats that
perpetuate these policies, you literally have blood on your hands.
You are the cause of these things happen.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
Michael, I heard an interesting analogy yesterday about all this
that's going on. Do we hold bartenders at a higher
standard than we do judges. A bartender that serves a
person who is knowingly drunk over and over again can
be charged if that person commits dui. So is a
(28:39):
judge no different when they let these criminals out over
and over again or not holding them accountable. Kind of
an interesting analogy, and I think we should think about it.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I think it's a very very interesting analogy. And so
is this from seventeen twelve, Mike. I've got an idea
the names of the judges that release dirt bags who
soon go on to murder and injure innocence. Will that
possibly in danger the judges?
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Maybe?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
But public shame has some value here. It's been done
in the past.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
It's probably in public record, right, it would be.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
It's a public record who the judge is. And there
have been past instances. I can't I couldn't game you
any specific examples, but I know I've read of specific
examples where a judge has been vilified publicly because they
let somebody out on a cashless mail and then they
committed a crime. They raped a child, they molested a child,
(29:32):
They did you know, they raped a woman, they did
whatever whatever it was they did, and the local media
picked it up, splashed the judge's face all over the
newspaper that this is the judge that let this criminal out,
and now the judge is facing public shame.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Does it endanger the judge's life? I don't know. I
hope not.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
But if you're going to endanger our lives, why should
I give two hoots about whether or not your life's
in danger. I'm not advocating that, I'm just saying, why
should I care. You've endangered us by your actions, and
(30:23):
you have knowingly and willfully done so. You have failed
as a judge. You should be impeached and removed. But obviously,
in a progressive state like Colorado, that ain't gonna happen. Oh,
we've had a prosecutor disbarred recently, we've had a judge
(30:44):
to get their hands slapped, but we haven't really had
the kind of public shaming that perhaps we should have.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
When you become a.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Judge, you're held to a much higher standard, and the
public should be able to look upon the judiciary as
that objective, fair minded group of people who are going to.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Follow the rule of law.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Now if they're following the rule of law that says, hey,
I can't force you, I'm not allowed to impose a
cash bail on you, then our attention should turn to
the Pulop Bureau and the governor and make them change
those policies
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