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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All from South Dakota.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Another day that we're waking up, it's not a good day,
and another family is not going to have a great day.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I wasn't quite sure how to start out today's program.
Wasn't even sure I wanted to be here today, although
I knew I really did want to be here today
and that I needed to be here today. I owe
it to you, all of you who regularly and loyally
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listen to this program. You probably don't quite comprehend how
much we appreciate. And when I say we, I really
mean me. I know Dragon appreciates it. I know corporate
they appreciate it, but for me, it's personal. It's really personal.
And I wasn't quite sure how to start the program out,
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and then I, for whatever reason, opened the text line
because I hadn't read text messages since oh, I don't know,
sometime maybe after dinner last night, because around.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Fight well at.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Let's see, you know, let's see this would have been
at seventeen oh one, twenty eight last night. You be
number twenty six fifty, wrote.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Michael.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It's rather odd listening to our one of your show today. Yesterday,
after all of the news about the tragic assassination of
Charlie Kirk. I think conservatives really need to reconsider security
needs when in public. Now, let me just go through
these backwards. Now, some of them I'm going to skip,
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but there's some pertinent ones that I want you to hear,
and I'll tell you why as I go through them.
Forty six thirty two wrote at seventeen oh seven nineteen,
Charlie Kirk shot dead. The blame goes solely to these
disgusting communist demo commies, and they're hateful rhetoric. Rhetoric toward
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Trump just heightens my hatred of demo comis. Scroll up
Little Ways forty four to sixteen. Michael, God blessed Charlie Kirk.
May he rest in peace. May God give his family
strength and peace. No more Marquis of Queensberry Rules thirty seven,
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twenty three. Flipping over to North Carolina at seven fifty
nine last night, you can hear the assailants say I
got that white girl after he walked off camera and
somebody replying to him totally race motivated. UMM sixty one
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fifty eight. This is at ten o'clock last night. This
is where I start reading from this morning, hope all's well.
Regarding Charlie Kirk's plan and assisted assassination and other destruction
by Democratic communists, we have to find a way not
to a way to not cohabitate with these monsters. Twenty
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four sixty four.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Damn it.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
This country has failed. America has failed. We have failed
our people. We have failed as a people. We have
failed the American dream. We have failed our children and grandchildren.
Between the little girl in North Carolina or Charlie Kirk
being assassinated, this country has become the crap hole other
word you kept warning us about. I hope and pray
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that my boys can grow up in America. I grew
up knowing and believing in am I wasting my breath. No.
Sixty one, fifty eight, eleven o'clock last night regarding kirk assassination.
My investigator had on find it of interest that Spark
Auto Auto is at the base of the Lorry building.
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Definitely expert marksman one shot set up and departed effectively.
Need a lucky break to find him. We'll talk about that.
Uh sixty six, fourteen five o'clock this morning. Make one
change to the events of yesterday, and just how different
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would last night have been swap Charlie Kirk for say AOC,
the left would have lost their feces two zero five
to nine. Michael Dragon said, great Dragon is great at
finding full in context videos. Does he have the one
people are talking about where Charlie Kirk said empathy was
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made up, a made up word. I know that's not
being that. That's being used out of context right now now,
and I'm having a hard time finding the full clip.
It's the same for the one about the Second Amendment.
I can't believe the fact that some people are celebrating this.
It's I don't think I've posted that, but that full
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context you can use AI and you can find it
either chat, GPT or GROC or Perplexity or any of
them will give you the full context of that quote.
And I agree with what he says. This one that
came in at five point twenty three this morning, as
Dragon and I are sitting here talking about what are
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we going to do? Forty five sixty two writes, I
don't think anyone would be too upset if you decided
to take today off. It's not like remembering nine to
eleven needed any more pain from the hands of another
monster or anything. But I don't think you'll do that.
I think you will do what you always do, no
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different than Rush or Charlie. I anticipate you will continue
the exact same fight. So please know you're not shouting
into the ether, certainly not today. Have a great show,
and please try to take those breaks some time so
you don't get cut off mid sentence. Thank you for
your attention to this matter.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Thank you for that text. Mess That's that's good. That's
damn good.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Seventy eight twenty seven at five point nine. I don't
know what you're going to talk about today, but I'm
anxious to hear your opinion today. Nine to eleven. And
then what happened yesterday? I just turned on KOW and
the interview with a man from tower Tunnels to Towers
was very somber. I didn't hear that. If you have
a chance, you should listen to it. Thanks Michael. Here's
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how I had intended and still plan to start out today.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
We'll talk.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
We'll talk about my friend Charles. We had an interesting
relationship that was I can't say was defined as a
personal relationship as I generally know personal relationships to be.
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It was entirely an online relationship and we'll get to that.
We'll get to Charlie. Charlie would want us to continue
to fight the good fight, and we will do it.
I described him as a happy warrior. Andrew Breitbart. When
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Twitter first came out and I joined Twitter, Andrew Breitbart
was one of the first individuals of I would say,
of note to follow me on Twitter account. And Andrew
and I had met a few times in d C,
but he became a staunch supporter of what I believed in,
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what I advocated, what I've been trying to do in
d C. He was he was the happy warrior. Now
we saw Andrew as the happy warrior, fully engaged.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I mean he was.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
He was a precursor to Charlie Kirk. But I mentioned
Andrew because I referred to Charlie as a happy warrior.
I want to be a happy warrior, and I am,
although sometimes when you listen to me you may not
think that I am. But I am a happy warrior
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because I fundamentally believe in a higher being. I am
a Christian. I believe that there was something greater than us.
I do believe that this kind was divinely inspired and
that the founding documents are indeed sacred documents, and that
they are divinely inspired, and that those founding fathers, being
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between the ages of eighteen and I think Jefferson may
have been the oldest at what thirty something, they fit
right in that demographic of a Charlie Kirk. And they
also knew that freedom is fragile, and that freedom was
something that you had to constantly fight for, and you
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had to push against the tyranny, which is because of
the nature of man, something that is always threatening the
very soul of this country. Yesterday, I was having lunch
with a friend and I get the text I'd have
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to go back and look at.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
The time.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
From Tamera about Hey, you need to know that Charlie's
been assassinated and there's an active shooter at Evergreen High School.
And I'm just I'm I I my friend sitting across
the room. He finally says, what's wrong because I stare
stupidly dumb, dumb struck by that simple text message the
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word assassination and it's Charlie and there's an active shooter
at the same time at Evergreen High School, literally occurring
like I think four minutes apart.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
If I got the time within minutes of each other.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, little literally within minutes of each other. And that
is because I've already been talking about you know, I've
reminded my friend that, hey, you know, tomorrow's nine to eleven,
and I had been I kind of got ambushed a
little bit yesterday my son one who wanted me to
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go on a program and spend a couple of hours
talking about nine to eleven.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
And I kind of.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Curtly told this person no, But then I decided I
probably need to explain to the host why I wasn't
going to do any other programs. And I'm not going
to do any other programs because what I want to
do is I want to go back to September eleven.
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I've only partially done this one other time. Neil Cavudo
after this was probably on the maybe the ten year anniversary,
I'm not quite sure of nine to eleven. Neil Cavudo
had asked me to come to New York and joining
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him on his program, and the Freedom Tower and Ground
Zero was still being completed, so Fox News had set
up a set that overlooked Ground zero, and I had
confided in Neil that I had kept this journal throughout
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my time in DC, and he had asked me if, well,
do you have stuff in there? About September eleven, I said, oh, yeah,
I've you know, I had several hours on a C
seventeen where or see one thirty five. I think it's
a CEE one thirty five. I think I referred to
him my notes at C seventeen. But I've got these notes.
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Oh would you come and would you just pick out
a paragraph and read a paragraph from your journal and
let's talk about that on air. Okay, sure, I'll do that.
So I flew to New York and I did it.
I want to do something different today. I want to
read you what I wrote. Not because it's well written,
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not because it's any sort of of in depth investigative reporting,
but it will give you a feel for you know,
I can't be I told Dragon that. I said, you know,
basically these text messages, particularly the one about you know,
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he wouldn't blame me for not being here today. But
we know that's not what you will do, because, like
Rush and Charlie, you want to carry on the fight.
I want to read you. How long this will take,
I'm not going to read you. There'll be a natural
stopping point, and I'll know when I get to that
natural stopping point. But I want to read you what
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I wrote simply so you'll understand why I am the
way that I am, and why I believe what I believe,
and the effect that these events that involve online friends
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that affect me personally, that I happen to be involved
in in a very unique period of time in our history,
including things like COVID, because I think there is a
thread between well, we can go back to the riots
of the sixties, the violence of the sixties, we can
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go back to the lynchings in the fifties. We can
tie a thread of American history through all of that
to where we are today, up and up and including
things like Poland is desperately trying to shoot Russian drones
out of their airspace, while Vladimir Putin is challenging Donald
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Trump in such a way that.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Could lead to World War three.
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And I think all of the things that have happened
to us in our lifetimes go all the way back
to Pearl harbor An America's greatest generation, and what few
of them that are left, they look at it today
and they look upon us as I would look upon
a Charlie and say, you've got to continue that fight,
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because the alternative of living in a tyrannical nineteen eighty
four style government is simply unacceptable. It's just unacceptable. From
my journal of September eleven, two thousand and one, I
would date every one. It was just a it's like
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a diary. So this is September eleventh, two thousand and one.
The subhead is September eleventh. I was already referring to
it on that day as September eleven. I'm somewhere over Montana,
flying in a US Air Force C one thirty five
military transport, presumably headed to the mount Weather Complex in
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West Virginia. It is right now eleven fifty nine am
Mountain time. The mount Weather Complex is a underground one
of the underground, undisclosed locations, which I can freely talk
about because if you want to know what's there, get
on your Google machine and google Mount Weather Complex, West Virginia,
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and you will see that there was a commercial airliner
that crashed into this mountain. I forget when it was,
maybe in the sixties, and suddenly everybody knows about Mount Weather.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
What you don't know, and what.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I can't tell you are of the details about everything
that is inside that complex. But it shouldn't surprise you,
and you can make a leap of logic that that
might be where we are ultimately headed next paragraph. This morning,
I was preparing to give a speech at the National
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Emergency Manager's Association convention in Big Sky, Montana. I hadn't
slept well all night and couldn't put the speech together
in my head like I normally do before speaking to
a group. My cell phone rang early this morning and
it was Scott Douglas back at headquarters, telling me to
turn the television on, as an airplane had just crashed
into the North tower of the World Trade Center in
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New York. I turned to CNN, and while watching the news,
witnessed another airplane fly directly into the South tower of
the complex, exploding in a burst of flame and building
materials out the opposite side of the building, in clear
view of the television cameras. Joe called almost immediately and
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they began preparations to get to New York.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
You know, Michael, I was in the Army for twenty years.
I had a wall of hate that got me through it.
I shed it when I got out of the army.
Right now, I'm struggling to hold the anger and the
hate at bay.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I don't know what to do with it.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I don't know how to find forgiveness.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Channel the hate into activism. As someone and I happened
to hear part of this, I didn't hear the whole
thing I heard.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I happened to be. I happened to be sitting at my.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Desk at home yesterday doing trying to do figure out
what I was going to do today, and I had
Fox News playing on one of my monitors, and it
was the five. I thought I heard Greg Guttfeld drop
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an F bomb, but I didn't have my system set
up where I could go back. I was just playing
it live, you know, through Exfinity. So I jump on
the line to see if indeed does what happened, and
indeed he did. And then I heard Waters talking about
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how they are at war with us. Well, I've got
news for you. They've been at war with us since
Woodrow Wilson. It's just that it is slowly but methodically escalated.
And by they, I mean the enemies of freedom. Yes, now,
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there are thousands of enemies of freedom. Whether that is
the dirt bag that assassinated Charlie Kirk, the dirt bags
that attacked us on nine to eleven, the dirt bags
that run for and become prosecutors in DA so that
they can let criminals run free, whether it's Mom Donnie
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in New York at a self avowed communist, socialist Marxist
running for mayor and looks like he's probably going to win.
They are at war with what we believe in. So
the hate is natural. The hate is part of being
a human. The difficult the easy thing for me to say,
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but the difficult thing for us to do is to
channel that hate into a happy warrior that is willing
to go to battle. I imagine the entire program today
is going to be bouncing back and forth between these things,
because part of my part of my being, part of
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my soul, is what I'm exposing to you today that
I wrote on this day twenty four years ago. I'm
just a few hours ahead of when I wrote it.
As I said at the beginning of the paragraph, date
of September eleventh, it's eleven fifty nine am Mountain time,
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and I said that the staff called me almost immediately
and we began preparations to get to New York for
what was obviously going to be a major disaster in
America's largest metropolitan area, but before the arrangements could be made. Now,
I wanted before I read the sentence to you, there's
a little danger in doing this because we know that
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what I wrote and what was actually occurring turned out
to not to be true. But what I wrote is
based on what the information was that we were getting
at the time, and there's a great lesson in that.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
One.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
We all know if if you're a military, you know
that the battle plans kind of go out the window
with the first shot that's fired. I hope we know
by now that whatever the initial news reports are by
the Gabal are probably going to be wrong. Either one
hundred percent wrong or one percent wrong, doesn't.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Make any difference. They're going to get be wrong. And
I think this is a.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Great look back at from my perspective that I'm taking.
I think a little bit of a risk sharing with
you completely what I wrote on that day and a
few days afterwards. So when I get to a point
here in a minute, just remember that I'm in Big Sky, Montana.
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I'm not in the White House Situation Room. Yet this morning,
I was preparing to give a speech at the National
Emergency Manager Association in Big Sky, Montana. I hadn't slept
well all night and couldn't put the speech together in
my head like I normally do before speaking to a group.
My cell phone rank early this morning and it was
Scott back at headquarters telling me to turn the television
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on as an airplane had just crashed into the North
tower of the World Trades Center in New York. That
was it, That's all he told me, I write. I
turned to CNN, and while watching the news, witnessed another
airplane fly directly into the south tower of the complex,
exploding in a burst of flame and building materials out
the opposite side of the building, in clear view of
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the television cameras. Staff called almost immediately, and we began
preparations to get to New York for what was obviously
going to be a major disaster in America's largest metropolitan area.
But before the arrangements could be made, a United Airlines
seven fifty seven, taking off from Washington Reagan National Airport,
plowed into the Pentagon. Later, as we continue to make
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preparations to head back to DC. We now learned that
a car bomb may have exploded in front of the
State Department. The Air Force has allegedly shot down a
commercial jetliner that refused to respond to radio contact, and
another United flight was cornered and circling Dulles International Airport
being chased by military fighters. That's what we were hearing.
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That's what we were being told by our operations center,
by the White House Situation Room.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
It was utter chaos. I right.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Obviously a terrace war had begun. And here we were,
the senior management team at FEMIS, stuck in Big Sky, Montana,
clogging up cell phone circuits, dialing the WA long distance
to Washington, leaving the phone sitting just to have contact.
Driving from Big Sky back to the airport in Bozeman
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was difficult. We couldn't get any news, couldn't talk to
anyone on the cell phones, and felt helpless and useless
as the disaster beyond our reach continued to play out.
The President I RIGHTE was on Air Force one, headed
to one of our secure coop continuity of operation sites,
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one of our undisclosed locations for protection, and was trying
to reach us by telephone. We were frustrated as we
knew the President was probably asking where we were and
we can't get in touch with him. We can't get
in touch with him because we don't have a satellite
phone with us. We're coming down from Big Sky trying
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to get the Bozeman and we're in a dead zone
sam satellite phone. I never went anywhere again without a
satellite phone. We were greeted at the airport by a
police escort, which took us across the tarmac to a
makeshift operations center where we could talk and work until
we figured out what steps to take next. By this time,
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the World Trade Center buildings had collapsed from the damage,
and we were watching the videotape of the smoke, dustined
debris settle on Lower Manhattan.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
It was like watching an action movie.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
On television, unreal, great graphics and special effects, except that
it was actually happening. The reality set in when I
learned that Barbara Olsen, wife of wife of US Solicitor
General Ted Olson, was on the plane that was hijacked
from National and slammed into the Pentagon. I called Tammar
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to let her know we were in Bozeman. I'm not
sure what my plans were, but that I certainly would
not be flying home to Colorado that night. Not only
was I going back east, either to Washington, New York,
but the FAA had shut down all the airports and
there were no commercial flights or private aircraft in the
air for any one across the United States. But our
immediate concern was getting out of Bozeman to either New
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York or DC. Initially, we had no aircraft available, military
or otherwise to take us back. By ten am this morning,
we had four choices. Washington State Air National Guard twin
engine turboprop, a C twelve air Force transport plane, two
F sixteens ready to fly somewhere, and to see one
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thirty five refueling tanker to get us back. I couldn't
imagine sitting suiting up for a flight on the F sixteen.
Neither could Joe, although we both knew that under different circumstances,
that would have been an exciting way to fly. Instead,
I opted for the C one thirty five because it
could land, leave the right engines running while we boarded,
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climb the ropes, turn around, and take right back off
of the East coast. It could also get us there
quick when you consider refueling the F sixteen in flight
and the turnaround time for the C seventeen. So here
I am with the staff, ten of us working our
way back to Washington, and then a young kid, one
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of the airmen, comes.
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To me, Michael Dragon, you guys are right. We are
fighting for the soul of this country, and I'm tired
of the wrong side seeming to always win. And when
we get our little victories of righteousness and faith in
God spread again, they want to silence it. Something's got
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to stop.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
And what has to happen is we have to take
what Charlie taught us and start doing it ourselves. We
have to fight that good fight, and remember why we're
fighting it. To your point, we are fighting for the
soul of the country.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
We truly are.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
At the same time that we're talking about that, we're
talking about why nine to eleven had such a profound effect.
I think on the course of the country. It really
changed a lot of things. And I'm sharing with you
something I've never shared before. It's part of the second
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book that I'm doing about my time in DC.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
And I'm to the point.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Where we're on board the C one thir five we
now know that we're going to Andrews Air Force Base.
The White House Situation Room has ordered us to go
to Andrews so that we can get to the set room,
and I write a young kid on board me. Took
me into the lower bay of the aircraft, where he
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maneuvers the boon to refuel other planes. He let me
lay in the trough where he works the boom, and
opened the outer hatch so I could look out on
the earth blow as we flew at thirty seven thousand
feet and approximately two hundred and eighty knots. It was
quite a sight, albeit under such bizarre and frightening circumstances.
We're guessing at this point that at least twenty five
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hundred people have been killed by the attacks today, But
we're also stuck on this airplane without any news of what,
if anything, else is going on. I only hope that
the initial attacks are over. I still can't believe I'm
even writing these words. I called Tamra again just before
we boarded, and she told me that our daughter had called, crying,
worried about me, where I was and what was happening.
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I asked her to call the kids back and tell
them I was all right, and I noticed that other
people in the room still back at Bozeman in the airport,
casually mentioning they had called fathers, siblings, mothers, and relatives
to let them know they were okay too. Today really
makes one appreciate family even more today, not twenty four
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years ago, which was true then, but today makes us
and should make us appreciate family even more. I finished
the journals for that day with this paragraph. I remember
in Bozeman all of the policemen who guarded our doors
walked me to and from the airplanes, the airport personnel
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who bent over backwards to assist in any way they could.
People were frightened, concerned for the country, and just generally anxious,
not knowing what was going to happen. As we took off,
I could barely see the mountains through the small door
window and thought how much I was going to miss
those mountains during the coming days. I don't write again
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in this journal. That was on Tuesday, September eleven. I
don't write again until Friday, September fourteenth, and I start
that paragraph out with tonight is the first night I've
had time or taken time to write On arrival in
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Washington Tuesday evening, about five pm, we were driven by
the Secret Service from Andrews to headquarters. The eerie thing
was the absence of activity. It was about five forty
five pm, the heart of rush hour. The freeways were
virtually deserted. It seems to have taken us only about
ten or fifteen minutes to get from Andrews to the
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White House. The drive was fast, exciting, and gave me
a little time to contemplate what lay ahead when we arrived.
So much has occurred in the past seventy two hours,
and I'll try to record what I remember, some significant,
some not. The first thing I recalled is going to
the White House Situation Room for a meeting of the
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National Security the National Security Council Deputies Council group of
deputies from various agencies with national security responsibilities. It was
such an uncanny experience, suddenly finding myself sitting around the
table with all these other deputies discussing terror threats, the
closing down of all air traffic in the country, continuity
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of government, continuity of operations procedures, just so we can
keep the government going. That was my day twenty four
years ago. So much change, What do we do with
this memorial