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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Charlie Kirk didn't deserve to die the way he died,
but his rhetoric was full of hate, division, and prejudiced
against a lot of people, including the gay and LGBTQ community,
along with black people. Charlie Kirk was not a good guy,
and it will be nice not to hear his rhetoric
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spread anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Now, let me make clear that was not left for us.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
That was left for another station, another show.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Other shows don't get talkbacks very often, so when they do,
I just find it fun on my own time between
you know, the segments, to listen to them. And that
one popped up for one of our sister stations this morning,
and I went, hmmm.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
And I walked in from the break and Dragon said,
would you like to hear a talk back left for
another station? Sure, So we punched a couple of buttons
and he plays it for me, and without any reservation,
I said, I want that plate.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Oh, we just want to make a clear it is
that one of you good goober's out there right somebody
crazy person listening to another station in the building.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
The truth about Charlie Kirk, despite that idiot's statement, is
that he believed in the power of engagement. He would
consistently do what the American left, what that guy probably
refuses to do, and that is walk into a place
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that's dominated by opinions from the other side, take on
all comers, welcoming their disagreement, arguing not in an attempt
to demonize, but in an attempt to evangelize.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I don't remember the exact quote from the movie, but
it goes along something the lines of everyone is now
dumber from having heard what you just said.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Right to that talk, try to do I do that
say if if you can disagree about any number of things,
any number of issues, race, sexual preferences, ideology of any
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political issue, whatever it is, and still recognize the humanity
of the individual who has an opposing point of view
about you or about what you believe in, That's how
we're supposed to live. That's what Again. Not trying to
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be theological here, but if you believe that Christ loves everyone,
which he does, it doesn't necessarily mean that Christ's roofs
of everything. Do you think Do you think Jesus bruises
everything that I do or that you do?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
No?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I doubt it. We're all sinners, every single one of us.
But that doesn't mean if if Charlie Kirk, for example,
he that talked back pointed out that Charlie had a
different opinion about LGBTQ issues, which he did. I tam
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and I watched him last night in response to a
question about abortion, and his argument was succinct, respectful to
the point, and I know it made the person asking
the question about because it came up about you know,
when when when a woman is pregnant, what is that
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in the womb? And the girl who was arguing with
him or debating with him, because it wasn't really an argument,
it was a debate. They weren't screaming each other, they
weren't calling each other names. It was it was actual debate.
And she said it was an embryo, and he in
some fashion asked, well, doesn't it have a heartbeat? Yes, well,
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if it has a heart beat, that makes it a human,
and she's like, no, it makes it an embryo. And
so now they're arguing about, you know, is that a
human or is an embryo And his final comment was
something to the effect, well, you just want to argue
that you know it's an embryo if it's a certain size,
physical size, and then it's only a human if it's
a larger size. That had to make that girl, whether
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she admitted or not, that had to make her stop
and least think about it. And that was his point.
That's what Dragon and I try to do here, is
we just try to get you to think about things.
I would be shocked, actually, i'd be upset if this
audience agreed with everything that I said. Now, I don't
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normally say things. In fact, I rarely, if ever say
anythings just to try to get an argument going, because
I would rather and prefer to come onto this program
and just tell you what I believe, and then you
can accept it or you can reject it, and then
you can send me text mail, text messages, emails or
posts on Twitter or whatever it is, and we can
have that debate and we can go back and forth
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it it is that he believed in at least engaging,
and that's what the left does not want to do.
The left would rather silence you than listen to you.
You know, they've tried to paint him as a white supremacist,
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as a radical, which I find kind of funny because
I was taught in high school that it takes radicals
and that the founding fathers, for example, they were radicals.
They were considered radicals in their day. So they want
to paint him as a white supremacist or radical or reactionary.
There always comparing him to the Nazi or to the KKK.
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Yet here he was as one of the most forthright, unassuming,
yet forceful voices against that extreme you know, of the
far right or of the far left. He was just
trying to have the debate. And again going back to
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my theory that he was an he was a political entrepreneur.
That's what turning point USA was it rather than I mean,
you've got college young Republicans. But do you think Heritage,
the Heritage Foundation, or any of the other numerous I
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mean hundreds thousands of conservative think tanks or conservative activist
organizations really engaged the college campus, the education campuses like
Charlie Kirk did. No nobody did. That's what makes this
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assassination so shocking because he really was mainstream and he
really was. Now, don't get me wrong, I can be
very forceful in my language and in my tone, and
he could be forceful in his language in his tone
at times, but he never streamed and yelled. He was like,
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oh you think that. Remember, Remember what his challenge was.
What were these rallies called? Prove me wrong? Prove me wrong.
Let me sit down here, you come up, ask me
any question, I'll answer it, and if you disagree, prove
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me wrong. I think that's why so many young conservatives
liked it. They were getting something there that they were
not getting in the classroom, because in the classroom they
were just being shut down. Clean cut, beautiful family. Not
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this stereotypical, plastic, fake, sort of absurd caricature of a conservative,
but a very traditional American family, two kids. He did
not have a college education. He dropped out of college
to pursue his passion. I probably respect him as much
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for that as I do almost anything else. He exemplified
this belief in the value of civil debate, and like
Andrew Breitbart, he was a happy warrior. He actively sought
out the those who disagreed with him because he didn't
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want to destroy them. He wanted to make a point.
He there are how do I phrase this, you think
about late night talk show hosts. They live in a bubble.
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I watched the video early this morning as I was
getting dressed. I watched the video of Stephen Colbert, who
had to do the perfunctory it's a sad day and
it's unfortunate and blah blah, blah blah. It was so insincere,
and then he concluded, now let us present to you
the show that we were going to bring you. So
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it was a taped intro to the show they had
already taped earlier that day. I found no sincerity in
it whatsoever. Of all the time times that we exchange
messages or that I heard him speak, there was never
an insincerity. The late night talk show hosts know who
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their audience is. Now I know who my audience is,
because I said, I don't cater that audience. Now, maybe
I'm a reflection of what you believe, or your reflection
what I believe. But again, I come here never just
throwing out a contention trying to get you riled up.
I throw out contentions because I actually believe in that contention,
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and I want to argue that contention, and I want
to make my points about that contention, and then you
can either think about it and either agree with it
or disagree with it. I really don't care guys like
that in their cowardice, are now lying about him. So
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even in death, the leftist who regularly hope for Donald
Trump's death, I mean, let's not forget the left regularly tweets, posts, protests, marches,
have signs, make tiktoks, whatever it is about the physical
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demise the death of Donald Trump. Those are the same
people that cheered and put on a pedestal Luigi Mangione
for killing the CEO of United Healthcare. So here they were,
and you can go for example, you can go on
X right now, you can look at probably the most
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dominant one is lives of TikTok, and lives a TikTok
has aggregated as many of those on the left as
they could possibly find who are cheering the death of
Charlie Kirk. That's sick, that's really sick. I can't imagine
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anyone on the right carrying the death of Bernie Sanders
or Elizabeth Warren or for that matter, Zoefram Mom Donnie.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Like the text said earlier, AOC.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
AOC any of those. Then we have to put in
perspective the attempted assassination assassinations plural of Donald Trump. Was
there any time at all where both parties seem to
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hope that that might make a change of direction for
the course of debate or the politics in this country,
an end of the demonization of either of both sides,
a tamping down of the virgular political debate.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Eh.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I don't think there ever was. And now with Charlie's
bloody murder, Oh, there'll be people talking about, oh, we
need to change, you know, we need to change the
debate and blows. But they won't. They have no intention
of doing so, they'll go right on. There'll be a
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little bit of a quiet period and they'll be right
back to where they were. You know, yesterday Speaker Mike
Johnston tried to have a so I forget who it
may have been, Lowland Boberg. It doesn't Marjorie Taylor Green,
I don't care. I think it was one of the
female members of the Republican Caucus asked for a moment
of silence and a prayer for Charlie Kirk on the
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floor of the House. Is all these congress critters are
milling about. It took Speaker Johnson probably, I mean he
finally had to yell at them for everybody to shut
up so they could have a moment of silence. Apparently
they didn't want to. They didn't want to have a
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moment of silence on the floor of the United States
Congress for the death of a thirty one year old
non college grad who was out there recruiting young people
to the views and the ideas of conservatism. And then
it actually I was surprised because the moment of silence
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actually did extend to the length of a normal prayer
in those situations. So it wasn't like, can we have
that moment, can we have a moment of silence for
Charlie Kirk? Thank you? I mean that's the way they
usually go. They lasted about two seconds and then we
move on. Now, this actually went on for maybe thirty
seconds or longer. The minute that it ended, they start yelling,
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they start screaming, They start screaming at each other. These
are the people I'm supposed to look up to. As
I've said before, I used to roam among them, and
I really don't have I've got respect for their offices,
and I have respect for the fact that they put
themselves out there to try to get elected. I respect
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that process, But in terms of their ideology, in terms
of their beliefs. I really don't respect it because they
don't have the same belief in this country that I do.
And they want to which I can't believe. I haven't
said it yet today, but they truly do want to
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fundamentally transform the United States of America. That is still
their mantra. That's the mantra that was announced when Barack
Obama won the election, and he made it as if
he was, you know, Parne in Argentina and Buenos Aires,
making the announcement from you know, high high on a
skyscraper that you know, we are now you know, this
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is the time that we've been you know, we are
the people that we've been waiting for, and this is
the time we've been waiting on. And now we're about
to see the fundamental transformation of America. And as as
Michelle Obama said, we will necessarily block believes that we
will necessarily have to change our history. No, no, we're
not going to change our history. The history is what
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it is. Our job is to learn from our history.
Our job is to understand our history and not have
it buried, not bearing statues, not bearing books, not bearing whatever,
but learning that. Yeah, we're like this nation is like
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any other human being, make mistakes, learn from them, and
move on. I don't know that well I do. Again,
I'm not going to speculate. I'm going to tell you
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what I believe. Charlie's death will not change those on
the left. Charlie's death will, however, spur those on the right.
And I think it's reflected in the text messages that
I've gotten today that when I talk about this is
political entrepreneurship. And you can do the same thing by
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taking one person at a time and working as long
and as hard as you can on that one individual,
knowing when to walk away from an individual and knowing
and not knowing that you may have changed their mind,
or at least you've got them to thinking about their position.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Michael, you know what I wish. I wish America could
get back to the America that we were on twelve,
when everyone joined together and stood behind the American flag
and took pride in being Americans.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I don't disagree with that except to say that that
was a facade, that was theater. And I say that
because being there doing the daily briefings, meeting with the
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senators and the congressman, getting cross examined all the time
about what we were doing or not doing. It was
it was a big show. I'm sure there were sincere
people in that group of five hundred and thirty five members. However,
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many showed up that day singing on the steps of
the Capitol who were very sincere. I don't doubt that
in the least. All I can tell you is that
behind the scenes they were still questioning and arguing and
debating and disagreeing, and and accusing us of not doing
everything that we should be doing or not doing, or
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that we were overreacting or underreacting. It was just, it
was just it was a time when my head was
just constantly spinning. As I said from the journal that
I read to you earlier, there there was misinformation, There
was disinformation. We didn't know what was coming next. We
had no idea we were we were looking for the
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boogeyman everywhere. We thought the boogeyman might exist based on
what foreign intelligence and human intelligence and you know, all
all of the that all the intel agencies were telling us.
We just didn't know. And then we had to sift
through and start asking the you know, the really tough
questions of all the briefers about what's actionable intelligence, what's
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not actionable, what's chatter? You know, how real is you
know how real is this chatter? What are the sources
of this chatter? Where did this come from? What's their
relationship to Osama bin Laden or to anybody else for
that matter. But there needed to be a show of unity,
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and they did, and then they went right back into
the building and started yelling at everybody. You were number
two thousand, great phone number. The Left needs to curb
their dogs, because if dealing with dissent using violence is
the new norm, remind them who was heavily armed. You'd
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think they'd understand that. I said to a coworker yesterday
at a meeting, when we learned about this, you wonder
why I carry all the time? Not because as Dragon
I were talking this morning, I don't want to use
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my weapon, but I don't want to be without my weapon.
It's been a rough week. From the girl on the train,
zena on Zurenka, Zerenka, I forget how to pronounce a person.
Yeah on the train. Obviously mental illness, somebody on the
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streets because of Democrat policies and as Charlie Kirk's last
post on X said, yes, that murder needs to be
politicized because it was Democrat policies that put that guy
on that train. But for the no cash bail policy,
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the the let them go, not putting them in mental
institutions or asylums, letting them roam the streets, those are
all Democrat policies and but for that, she'd be alive.
So yes, we should politicize it. You've number forty four
sixty seven, Michael, I'm either depressed or getting old, I believe.
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Aside from Trump and Rush, there was another not so
distant demise that the left was cheering. They are cheering it.
As I said earlier, go look at the libs now.
I haven't looked at it since last night. I don't
think I looked at it. This morning. Libs of TikTok
was aggregating all of those that are cheering the the
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demise of him. That talk back that we got that
went to another station, starts out with what's my rule
about butts? Listen to what comes after the butt? You know,
he shouldn't have died that way? Oh well, which way
should should he have died? And then goes on to
excoriate him for clearly what they believed to be homophobia.
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On March fourteen of twenty twenty three, The Sacramento B
wrote a column about Charlie Kirk, and the column was
about how Charlie Kirk had quote called for the lynching
of trans people. Sacramento B posted a retraction. Here's what
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I want you to listen to this closely an earlier
version of this column. This is from twenty twenty three.
An earlier version of this column included a statement that
Charlie Kirk had quote called for the lynching of trans
people close quote. The Sacramental B says the basis for
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this accusation is a video clip in which Kirk was
upset that a trans woman had won an INA swimming championship.
In the clip, Kirk said that this is what they say.
In the clip, Kirk said that instead of letting the
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woman compete quote, someone should have took care of it
the way we used to take care of things in
the nineteen fifties and sixties. Close quote. Sacramental BE continues.
Some trans advocates on social media extrapolated from Kirk's comments
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that he called for trans people to be lynched. An
accusation the sacramental be repeated, but a review of the
video shows that Kirk never advocated for trans people to
be lynched. In fact, he too strongly denies the accusation.
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These notes have been added to the A column. The
B regrets its comments and we apologize for any misunderstanding
this earlier version may have caused. Wait a minute, you
said that the basis for the accusation that you're making
is a video clip, and then afterwards, when someone took
issue with it, you then say, hmmm. The B repeated it,
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but a review of the video shows that Kirk never
advocated for trans people to be lynched. Don't you think
maybe you should have looked at the fan video before
you posted your comment? And the Sacramento B B dumbasses.
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We have an incredible and heavy burden to carry as conservatives.
One to make sure that we're accurate in what we say,
which worries me every time I come on air. Two
that we challenge every thing that we read, see, or
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hear we live. You know, George Orwell, I'm not gonna
say what you think I'm gonna say. I think George
Orwell would be disappointed in himself. No, he wouldn't be
saying I told you so. I think George Orwell would
be looking around going holy crap. Did I misjudge this.
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I didn't go nearly far enough in how new speak
would enter the vernacular of modern society to the point
that you couldn't believe anything that anybody says. And I
think that's where we're at. I see something that I
want to talk about on this program. This is why
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I spend, you know I am. I'm going through this
process of looking at I think I know what started
this that one of my Chase credit cards is offering.
I think it's Apple TV as part of one of
my benefits. So I started going through this whole process
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of looking at everything, every subscription that I have, everything
from Exfinity, Comcast all the way down to the newspapers,
all the different newspapers and Lexus and Nexus and everything
that I subscribe to, just to get a handle on
what is it that I'm spending. And two, are there
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ways that I can consolidate or get a discount or
have am I double paying for some things because it's
included in a bundle somewhere else? And whenever I'm doing
show prep, I spend an inordinate amount of time trying
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to confirm whether that's source. Even if it's a trusted
source that I read consistently, what other what backs that up,
or even worse, what contradicts Brownie.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
I remember back when Rush was still here, people would
ask him is it time to worry yet? And he
would say, I'll tell you when it's time to worry.
And I have to wonder this morning, what would he
be saying today?
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Have yet?
Speaker 5 (28:16):
I think I know what he would say, have a
good day.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I've thought about that question a lot. I don't know
if it's time to worry or not. And I don't
mean that as a cop out, but I really don't.
Because while we are inundated with the anniversary of nine
to eleven and Charlie Kirk and Zorenka Zrinka the Lady
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on the Train, we forget that the White House and
the Congress are starting to clean some of this stuff up.
Now again, it's not going to happen overnight. And while
Charlie may have been murdered assassinated, that turning point USA
is not going to go anywhere. It will grow even stronger,
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in my opinion. Now, on the other hand, using my
example of the United Kingdom and the EU, they're currently
still trying to crack down on so called right wing violence,
which does not exist by controlling hate speech. The pogram
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currently underway over there to stop hate speech and disinformation
from the right isn't all that much different from what
certain people were very much hoping to bring about over here.
So as in the EU and the UK, there was
a very viable censorship state was being constructed, and now
that's being constructed here by many of the NGOs and
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members of the Democrat Party, and generally speaking, in some ways,
our own federal government, with the aid of all these
NGOs that you and I have taxpayers, have been supporting
rigid speech control. The mainstream media is being extended to
social media so they could carefully restrict topics of discussion
that Americans could have with each other in the public
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square of x or Facebook or YouTube particular, any of
the others. You don't think so, have you already forgotten
about the Twitter files and when Jack Dorsey owned Twitter,
what they were doing to silence speech over there, or
what Zuckerberg was doing on Facebook when it came to covid.
See that thread never forget that thread that I talk about,
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and don't forget our history. From nineteen sixty five to
nineteen seventy three, we saw on the order of somewhere,
I mean thousands, somewhere between three and five thousand bombings
from domestic terrorists in this country, from leftist organizations, leftist individuals.
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So why does the myth persist that political violence lives
on the right and somehow we got to be on
the guard for that, when in actuality, the political violence
is almost always coming from the left, the cabal, the
disinformation that you're fed every single day, and the best
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guard against that is to question everything you think about
those bombings. Now, some were pretty big, some were small,
but nevertheless, somewhere between three and five thousand bombings between
nineteen sixty five and nineteen seventy three, an eight year period.
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If you were born after nineteen ninety and you've heard
those numbers, you probably think that I'm a nutjob. Hell's bells.
If you are twenty four years old, maybe even a
little older, depending on when you your first memory, you
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don't understand the significance of nine to eleven. All of
that history is being memory hold, and it's being memory hold,
because that's what the Communist Manifesto mandates. Marx and Lenin,
you have to make the people ignorant of their history,
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and you have to take away their free speech rights.
You can't have people thinking for themselves. That's why I
say that George Orwell would actually be disappointed in himself
because he didn't make it extreme enough. We're actually worse
off than nineteen eighty four.
Charlie Kirk didn't deserve to die the way he died,
but his rhetoric was full of hate, division, and prejudiced
against a lot of people, including the gay and LGBTQ community,
along with black people. Charlie Kirk was not a good guy,
and it will be nice not to hear his rhetoric
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spread anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Now, let me make clear that was not left for us.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
That was left for another station, another show.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Other shows don't get talkbacks very often, so when they do,
I just find it fun on my own time between
you know, the segments, to listen to them. And that
one popped up for one of our sister stations this morning,
and I went, hmmm.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
And I walked in from the break and Dragon said,
would you like to hear a talk back left for
another station? Sure, So we punched a couple of buttons
and he plays it for me, and without any reservation,
I said, I want that plate.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Oh, we just want to make a clear it is
that one of you good goober's out there right somebody
crazy person listening to another station in the building.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
The truth about Charlie Kirk, despite that idiot's statement, is
that he believed in the power of engagement. He would
consistently do what the American left, what that guy probably
refuses to do, and that is walk into a place
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that's dominated by opinions from the other side, take on
all comers, welcoming their disagreement, arguing not in an attempt
to demonize, but in an attempt to evangelize.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I don't remember the exact quote from the movie, but
it goes along something the lines of everyone is now
dumber from having heard what you just said.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Right to that talk, try to do I do that
say if if you can disagree about any number of things,
any number of issues, race, sexual preferences, ideology of any
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political issue, whatever it is, and still recognize the humanity
of the individual who has an opposing point of view
about you or about what you believe in, That's how
we're supposed to live. That's what Again. Not trying to
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be theological here, but if you believe that Christ loves everyone,
which he does, it doesn't necessarily mean that Christ's roofs
of everything. Do you think Do you think Jesus bruises
everything that I do or that you do?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
No?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I doubt it. We're all sinners, every single one of us.
But that doesn't mean if if Charlie Kirk, for example,
he that talked back pointed out that Charlie had a
different opinion about LGBTQ issues, which he did. I tam
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and I watched him last night in response to a
question about abortion, and his argument was succinct, respectful to
the point, and I know it made the person asking
the question about because it came up about you know,
when when when a woman is pregnant, what is that
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in the womb? And the girl who was arguing with
him or debating with him, because it wasn't really an argument,
it was a debate. They weren't screaming each other, they
weren't calling each other names. It was it was actual debate.
And she said it was an embryo, and he in
some fashion asked, well, doesn't it have a heartbeat? Yes, well,
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if it has a heart beat, that makes it a human,
and she's like, no, it makes it an embryo. And
so now they're arguing about, you know, is that a
human or is an embryo And his final comment was
something to the effect, well, you just want to argue
that you know it's an embryo if it's a certain size,
physical size, and then it's only a human if it's
a larger size. That had to make that girl, whether
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she admitted or not, that had to make her stop
and least think about it. And that was his point.
That's what Dragon and I try to do here, is
we just try to get you to think about things.
I would be shocked, actually, i'd be upset if this
audience agreed with everything that I said. Now, I don't
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normally say things. In fact, I rarely, if ever say
anythings just to try to get an argument going, because
I would rather and prefer to come onto this program
and just tell you what I believe, and then you
can accept it or you can reject it, and then
you can send me text mail, text messages, emails or
posts on Twitter or whatever it is, and we can
have that debate and we can go back and forth
(05:18):
it it is that he believed in at least engaging,
and that's what the left does not want to do.
The left would rather silence you than listen to you.
You know, they've tried to paint him as a white supremacist,
(05:41):
as a radical, which I find kind of funny because
I was taught in high school that it takes radicals
and that the founding fathers, for example, they were radicals.
They were considered radicals in their day. So they want
to paint him as a white supremacist or radical or reactionary.
There always comparing him to the Nazi or to the KKK.
(06:04):
Yet here he was as one of the most forthright, unassuming,
yet forceful voices against that extreme you know, of the
far right or of the far left. He was just
trying to have the debate. And again going back to
(06:28):
my theory that he was an he was a political entrepreneur.
That's what turning point USA was it rather than I mean,
you've got college young Republicans. But do you think Heritage,
the Heritage Foundation, or any of the other numerous I
(06:51):
mean hundreds thousands of conservative think tanks or conservative activist
organizations really engaged the college campus, the education campuses like
Charlie Kirk did. No nobody did. That's what makes this
(07:12):
assassination so shocking because he really was mainstream and he
really was. Now, don't get me wrong, I can be
very forceful in my language and in my tone, and
he could be forceful in his language in his tone
at times, but he never streamed and yelled. He was like,
(07:35):
oh you think that. Remember, Remember what his challenge was.
What were these rallies called? Prove me wrong? Prove me wrong.
Let me sit down here, you come up, ask me
any question, I'll answer it, and if you disagree, prove
(07:58):
me wrong. I think that's why so many young conservatives
liked it. They were getting something there that they were
not getting in the classroom, because in the classroom they
were just being shut down. Clean cut, beautiful family. Not
(08:21):
this stereotypical, plastic, fake, sort of absurd caricature of a conservative,
but a very traditional American family, two kids. He did
not have a college education. He dropped out of college
to pursue his passion. I probably respect him as much
(08:42):
for that as I do almost anything else. He exemplified
this belief in the value of civil debate, and like
Andrew Breitbart, he was a happy warrior. He actively sought
out the those who disagreed with him because he didn't
(09:02):
want to destroy them. He wanted to make a point.
He there are how do I phrase this, you think
about late night talk show hosts. They live in a bubble.
(09:25):
I watched the video early this morning as I was
getting dressed. I watched the video of Stephen Colbert, who
had to do the perfunctory it's a sad day and
it's unfortunate and blah blah, blah blah. It was so insincere,
and then he concluded, now let us present to you
the show that we were going to bring you. So
(09:47):
it was a taped intro to the show they had
already taped earlier that day. I found no sincerity in
it whatsoever. Of all the time times that we exchange
messages or that I heard him speak, there was never
an insincerity. The late night talk show hosts know who
(10:13):
their audience is. Now I know who my audience is,
because I said, I don't cater that audience. Now, maybe
I'm a reflection of what you believe, or your reflection
what I believe. But again, I come here never just
throwing out a contention trying to get you riled up.
I throw out contentions because I actually believe in that contention,
(10:35):
and I want to argue that contention, and I want
to make my points about that contention, and then you
can either think about it and either agree with it
or disagree with it. I really don't care guys like
that in their cowardice, are now lying about him. So
(10:59):
even in death, the leftist who regularly hope for Donald
Trump's death, I mean, let's not forget the left regularly tweets, posts, protests, marches,
have signs, make tiktoks, whatever it is about the physical
(11:19):
demise the death of Donald Trump. Those are the same
people that cheered and put on a pedestal Luigi Mangione
for killing the CEO of United Healthcare. So here they were,
and you can go for example, you can go on
X right now, you can look at probably the most
(11:43):
dominant one is lives of TikTok, and lives a TikTok
has aggregated as many of those on the left as
they could possibly find who are cheering the death of
Charlie Kirk. That's sick, that's really sick. I can't imagine
(12:07):
anyone on the right carrying the death of Bernie Sanders
or Elizabeth Warren or for that matter, Zoefram Mom Donnie.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Like the text said earlier, AOC.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
AOC any of those. Then we have to put in
perspective the attempted assassination assassinations plural of Donald Trump. Was
there any time at all where both parties seem to
(12:42):
hope that that might make a change of direction for
the course of debate or the politics in this country,
an end of the demonization of either of both sides,
a tamping down of the virgular political debate.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Eh.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I don't think there ever was. And now with Charlie's
bloody murder, Oh, there'll be people talking about, oh, we
need to change, you know, we need to change the
debate and blows. But they won't. They have no intention
of doing so, they'll go right on. There'll be a
(13:22):
little bit of a quiet period and they'll be right
back to where they were. You know, yesterday Speaker Mike
Johnston tried to have a so I forget who it
may have been, Lowland Boberg. It doesn't Marjorie Taylor Green,
I don't care. I think it was one of the
female members of the Republican Caucus asked for a moment
of silence and a prayer for Charlie Kirk on the
(13:46):
floor of the House. Is all these congress critters are
milling about. It took Speaker Johnson probably, I mean he
finally had to yell at them for everybody to shut
up so they could have a moment of silence. Apparently
they didn't want to. They didn't want to have a
(14:06):
moment of silence on the floor of the United States
Congress for the death of a thirty one year old
non college grad who was out there recruiting young people
to the views and the ideas of conservatism. And then
it actually I was surprised because the moment of silence
(14:30):
actually did extend to the length of a normal prayer
in those situations. So it wasn't like, can we have
that moment, can we have a moment of silence for
Charlie Kirk? Thank you? I mean that's the way they
usually go. They lasted about two seconds and then we
move on. Now, this actually went on for maybe thirty
seconds or longer. The minute that it ended, they start yelling,
(14:56):
they start screaming, They start screaming at each other. These
are the people I'm supposed to look up to. As
I've said before, I used to roam among them, and
I really don't have I've got respect for their offices,
and I have respect for the fact that they put
themselves out there to try to get elected. I respect
(15:17):
that process, But in terms of their ideology, in terms
of their beliefs. I really don't respect it because they
don't have the same belief in this country that I do.
And they want to which I can't believe. I haven't
said it yet today, but they truly do want to
(15:38):
fundamentally transform the United States of America. That is still
their mantra. That's the mantra that was announced when Barack
Obama won the election, and he made it as if
he was, you know, Parne in Argentina and Buenos Aires,
making the announcement from you know, high high on a
skyscraper that you know, we are now you know, this
(16:02):
is the time that we've been you know, we are
the people that we've been waiting for, and this is
the time we've been waiting on. And now we're about
to see the fundamental transformation of America. And as as
Michelle Obama said, we will necessarily block believes that we
will necessarily have to change our history. No, no, we're
not going to change our history. The history is what
(16:23):
it is. Our job is to learn from our history.
Our job is to understand our history and not have
it buried, not bearing statues, not bearing books, not bearing whatever,
but learning that. Yeah, we're like this nation is like
(16:48):
any other human being, make mistakes, learn from them, and
move on. I don't know that well I do. Again,
I'm not going to speculate. I'm going to tell you
(17:08):
what I believe. Charlie's death will not change those on
the left. Charlie's death will, however, spur those on the right.
And I think it's reflected in the text messages that
I've gotten today that when I talk about this is
political entrepreneurship. And you can do the same thing by
(17:33):
taking one person at a time and working as long
and as hard as you can on that one individual,
knowing when to walk away from an individual and knowing
and not knowing that you may have changed their mind,
or at least you've got them to thinking about their position.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Michael, you know what I wish. I wish America could
get back to the America that we were on twelve,
when everyone joined together and stood behind the American flag
and took pride in being Americans.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I don't disagree with that except to say that that
was a facade, that was theater. And I say that
because being there doing the daily briefings, meeting with the
(18:32):
senators and the congressman, getting cross examined all the time
about what we were doing or not doing. It was
it was a big show. I'm sure there were sincere
people in that group of five hundred and thirty five members. However,
(18:54):
many showed up that day singing on the steps of
the Capitol who were very sincere. I don't doubt that
in the least. All I can tell you is that
behind the scenes they were still questioning and arguing and
debating and disagreeing, and and accusing us of not doing
everything that we should be doing or not doing, or
(19:16):
that we were overreacting or underreacting. It was just, it
was just it was a time when my head was
just constantly spinning. As I said from the journal that
I read to you earlier, there there was misinformation, There
was disinformation. We didn't know what was coming next. We
had no idea we were we were looking for the
(19:38):
boogeyman everywhere. We thought the boogeyman might exist based on
what foreign intelligence and human intelligence and you know, all
all of the that all the intel agencies were telling us.
We just didn't know. And then we had to sift
through and start asking the you know, the really tough
questions of all the briefers about what's actionable intelligence, what's
(19:58):
not actionable, what's chatter? You know, how real is you
know how real is this chatter? What are the sources
of this chatter? Where did this come from? What's their
relationship to Osama bin Laden or to anybody else for
that matter. But there needed to be a show of unity,
(20:21):
and they did, and then they went right back into
the building and started yelling at everybody. You were number
two thousand, great phone number. The Left needs to curb
their dogs, because if dealing with dissent using violence is
the new norm, remind them who was heavily armed. You'd
(20:45):
think they'd understand that. I said to a coworker yesterday
at a meeting, when we learned about this, you wonder
why I carry all the time? Not because as Dragon
I were talking this morning, I don't want to use
(21:05):
my weapon, but I don't want to be without my weapon.
It's been a rough week. From the girl on the train,
zena on Zurenka, Zerenka, I forget how to pronounce a person.
Yeah on the train. Obviously mental illness, somebody on the
(21:29):
streets because of Democrat policies and as Charlie Kirk's last
post on X said, yes, that murder needs to be
politicized because it was Democrat policies that put that guy
on that train. But for the no cash bail policy,
(21:52):
the the let them go, not putting them in mental
institutions or asylums, letting them roam the streets, those are
all Democrat policies and but for that, she'd be alive.
So yes, we should politicize it. You've number forty four
sixty seven, Michael, I'm either depressed or getting old, I believe.
(22:13):
Aside from Trump and Rush, there was another not so
distant demise that the left was cheering. They are cheering it.
As I said earlier, go look at the libs now.
I haven't looked at it since last night. I don't
think I looked at it. This morning. Libs of TikTok
was aggregating all of those that are cheering the the
(22:34):
demise of him. That talk back that we got that
went to another station, starts out with what's my rule
about butts? Listen to what comes after the butt? You know,
he shouldn't have died that way? Oh well, which way
should should he have died? And then goes on to
excoriate him for clearly what they believed to be homophobia.
(22:58):
On March fourteen of twenty twenty three, The Sacramento B
wrote a column about Charlie Kirk, and the column was
about how Charlie Kirk had quote called for the lynching
of trans people. Sacramento B posted a retraction. Here's what
(23:27):
I want you to listen to this closely an earlier
version of this column. This is from twenty twenty three.
An earlier version of this column included a statement that
Charlie Kirk had quote called for the lynching of trans
people close quote. The Sacramental B says the basis for
(23:51):
this accusation is a video clip in which Kirk was
upset that a trans woman had won an INA swimming championship.
In the clip, Kirk said that this is what they say.
In the clip, Kirk said that instead of letting the
(24:12):
woman compete quote, someone should have took care of it
the way we used to take care of things in
the nineteen fifties and sixties. Close quote. Sacramental BE continues.
Some trans advocates on social media extrapolated from Kirk's comments
(24:35):
that he called for trans people to be lynched. An
accusation the sacramental be repeated, but a review of the
video shows that Kirk never advocated for trans people to
be lynched. In fact, he too strongly denies the accusation.
(24:58):
These notes have been added to the A column. The
B regrets its comments and we apologize for any misunderstanding
this earlier version may have caused. Wait a minute, you
said that the basis for the accusation that you're making
is a video clip, and then afterwards, when someone took
issue with it, you then say, hmmm. The B repeated it,
(25:21):
but a review of the video shows that Kirk never
advocated for trans people to be lynched. Don't you think
maybe you should have looked at the fan video before
you posted your comment? And the Sacramento B B dumbasses.
(25:41):
We have an incredible and heavy burden to carry as conservatives.
One to make sure that we're accurate in what we say,
which worries me every time I come on air. Two
that we challenge every thing that we read, see, or
(26:03):
hear we live. You know, George Orwell, I'm not gonna
say what you think I'm gonna say. I think George
Orwell would be disappointed in himself. No, he wouldn't be
saying I told you so. I think George Orwell would
be looking around going holy crap. Did I misjudge this.
(26:23):
I didn't go nearly far enough in how new speak
would enter the vernacular of modern society to the point
that you couldn't believe anything that anybody says. And I
think that's where we're at. I see something that I
want to talk about on this program. This is why
(26:44):
I spend, you know I am. I'm going through this
process of looking at I think I know what started
this that one of my Chase credit cards is offering.
I think it's Apple TV as part of one of
my benefits. So I started going through this whole process
(27:05):
of looking at everything, every subscription that I have, everything
from Exfinity, Comcast all the way down to the newspapers,
all the different newspapers and Lexus and Nexus and everything
that I subscribe to, just to get a handle on
what is it that I'm spending. And two, are there
(27:26):
ways that I can consolidate or get a discount or
have am I double paying for some things because it's
included in a bundle somewhere else? And whenever I'm doing
show prep, I spend an inordinate amount of time trying
(27:46):
to confirm whether that's source. Even if it's a trusted
source that I read consistently, what other what backs that up,
or even worse, what contradicts Brownie.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
I remember back when Rush was still here, people would
ask him is it time to worry yet? And he
would say, I'll tell you when it's time to worry.
And I have to wonder this morning, what would he
be saying today?
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Have yet?
Speaker 5 (28:16):
I think I know what he would say, have a
good day.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I've thought about that question a lot. I don't know
if it's time to worry or not. And I don't
mean that as a cop out, but I really don't.
Because while we are inundated with the anniversary of nine
to eleven and Charlie Kirk and Zorenka Zrinka the Lady
(28:44):
on the Train, we forget that the White House and
the Congress are starting to clean some of this stuff up.
Now again, it's not going to happen overnight. And while
Charlie may have been murdered assassinated, that turning point USA
is not going to go anywhere. It will grow even stronger,
(29:07):
in my opinion. Now, on the other hand, using my
example of the United Kingdom and the EU, they're currently
still trying to crack down on so called right wing violence,
which does not exist by controlling hate speech. The pogram
(29:28):
currently underway over there to stop hate speech and disinformation
from the right isn't all that much different from what
certain people were very much hoping to bring about over here.
So as in the EU and the UK, there was
a very viable censorship state was being constructed, and now
that's being constructed here by many of the NGOs and
(29:50):
members of the Democrat Party, and generally speaking, in some ways,
our own federal government, with the aid of all these
NGOs that you and I have taxpayers, have been supporting
rigid speech control. The mainstream media is being extended to
social media so they could carefully restrict topics of discussion
that Americans could have with each other in the public
(30:12):
square of x or Facebook or YouTube particular, any of
the others. You don't think so, have you already forgotten
about the Twitter files and when Jack Dorsey owned Twitter,
what they were doing to silence speech over there, or
what Zuckerberg was doing on Facebook when it came to covid.
See that thread never forget that thread that I talk about,
(30:36):
and don't forget our history. From nineteen sixty five to
nineteen seventy three, we saw on the order of somewhere,
I mean thousands, somewhere between three and five thousand bombings
from domestic terrorists in this country, from leftist organizations, leftist individuals.
(31:02):
So why does the myth persist that political violence lives
on the right and somehow we got to be on
the guard for that, when in actuality, the political violence
is almost always coming from the left, the cabal, the
disinformation that you're fed every single day, and the best
(31:30):
guard against that is to question everything you think about
those bombings. Now, some were pretty big, some were small,
but nevertheless, somewhere between three and five thousand bombings between
nineteen sixty five and nineteen seventy three, an eight year period.
(31:52):
If you were born after nineteen ninety and you've heard
those numbers, you probably think that I'm a nutjob. Hell's bells.
If you are twenty four years old, maybe even a
little older, depending on when you your first memory, you
(32:14):
don't understand the significance of nine to eleven. All of
that history is being memory hold, and it's being memory hold,
because that's what the Communist Manifesto mandates. Marx and Lenin,
you have to make the people ignorant of their history,
(32:37):
and you have to take away their free speech rights.
You can't have people thinking for themselves. That's why I
say that George Orwell would actually be disappointed in himself
because he didn't make it extreme enough. We're actually worse
off than nineteen eighty four.
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