9-22-25 - 6am - Charlie Kirk Memorial

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Part and Mike Well, after looking at all the Charlie coverage,
just kids put himself into the history books along with
John Wilkes books, and there's not a damn thing we
can do about it. I'm just wondering what kind of
lawyers speak you're gonna come with over and over and
over and over again today. That just is mind numbing

(00:22):
and covers every minute little detail. I love you mean it,
I'm a pea one.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I need a translation.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
I'm not entirely sure because he left that just before
the weekend with Michael Brown, so I'm sure he was,
you know, expecting you to talk some Charlie.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Okay, what was the part about the lawyer stuff?

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Just that you go over absolutely everything multiple times in detail.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, I mean, I guess all right.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
You must love it because you know he freely admits
to being a P one one right right right, knowing
what a P one is. So that's that's that's a
plus right there.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yes, you know, I've never thought about is P does
that stand just for persons? I guess I never thought
about what pe I mean, I know what a P
one is in terms of Nielsen ratings. I've just never
thought about what the peace stands for person, you know,
because we we do the ratings in terms of persons,
so you know, person's listening and time spent listening, and

(01:32):
it's all about persons. So I don't know. So I
dragon asked me this morning if I had watched them
the Memorial Service, and I said, yes, I did. And
one thing that before we get into a few of
the details, I don't, you know, I don't how much
of the even this segment I'll spend talking about it,

(01:55):
because I assume that most of you saw it, or
you've seen pieces of it, and there's really no need
for me to go over of it other than a
few things that it really struck me. But before we
get into the the revival aspect of it, before we
get into something that Erica Kirk said that I had

(02:15):
to fight back tears, and I thought to myself, Man,
you're a much better person than I am. Donald Trump
is an amazing producer. If I had a producer like
Donald Trump, holy cow, this program could take off like
a rocket ship, and I could. I could just I

(02:36):
could be bringing in, you know, bazillions of dollars and
just have locked down every station in them. But no,
I got Dragon. I got Dragon inst do Donald Trump,
You're welcome. Dragon's a very good producer. But we both
met neither one of us or Donald Trump, which is
both good and bad. But holy cow, now, I and

(03:00):
I'm not trying to imply that Donald Trump put together
that entire event. But Donald Trump knows how television works,
he knows the medium, he knows how to use it,
and he uses it sometimes, I think, for purely unadult
rated political purposes. Sometimes he uses it for personal reasons,

(03:23):
and sometimes he uses it for reasons that I think,
holy cow, that's the side of you that nobody's ever seen.
More people should see that. And I saw all of
that and the snippets. I didn't see the entire thing
because I knew it started at.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
The damn thing was nearly six hours long.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yes, yes, so I tuned in. I was already watching
television when because I was watching the recorded I recorded
CBS Sunday morning, and then I keep forgetting that Phoenix
is an hour ahead of us. So I tuned in

(04:02):
I don't know whatever time it started, and watched a
little bit of it, But then I had to go
to lunch with a friend for lunch, and then got
back in the car and was and I forget who
was speaking, but they kind of caught my ear. So
I sat in the car for a few minutes listened
to that. Then I ran a few errands, and then
I came back and watched a little bit on television,

(04:25):
ran a few more errands, came back because what I
really wanted to see was I wanted to hear the
president speak. I wanted to hear what Trump had to say.
But I was fortunate to hear some things that I
probably would not have heard but for they just happened
to occur when I was in front of a television.

(04:48):
We'll get to Eric in a minute. But I thought
one of the most effective speakers was a person that
I would have expected to be one of the least
effective speakers, which I always love. You know, when your
expectations are like, eh, okay, I'm sitting here, I might
as well watch. It was Donald Trump Junior, and he

(05:14):
was as I told dragon, he was self effacing. He
and I forget the context, and I don't have a
SoundBite for it. I haven't looked for one this morning.
He he inserted some humor in a situation where I
mean a lot. A lot of people inserted humor, but

(05:35):
nobody could do it like Donald Trump Junior did because
his father is the freaking president of the United States
of America. And he's talking, and he's talking about his
friend Charlie and how he got to know Charlie, and
Charlie was a better man than he is, and you know,
Charlie was always trying to teach him how to, you know, respect,

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you know, those that you considered to be your enemies.
And and somehow that launched Don Jr. Into a imitation
of the way of the way of the way his
dad speaks. And of course, the minute he started, you know,
doing that funny cannon, little Donald Trump can to talk
stuff that I can't do. But you know, Ryan Shuling

(06:18):
can do a pretty good Donald Trump. I am the
cameras immediately. I mean I think every camp I think
every director that was that was producing that, every director
that was controlling the cameras, told every camera in the
entire stadium to go to Donald Trump. So every camera
angle it was on Donald Trump all of a sudden,

(06:39):
and he was just laughing his butt off about his son,
making fun of the way he speaks, which is the
perfect kind of comedy, the perfect kind of human humor,
because you know it's true. Everybody in the audience knows
it's true. The object of the so called ridicule, and
I use that term loosely, the ridicule the person being

(07:00):
ridiculed knows that it's true, and so everybody has a
good laugh at it. So I thought that was amazing.
I only caught parts of Vance's speech, and I'm sure
it was good, But because they were close friends, I
had mediocre expectations for it, because I know what I

(07:22):
would do if I had to give a eulogy for
my best friend, which is not you, Dragon, by the way,
because although I do know them, although I do know
what my eulogy for you would be, but nonetheless him
might drop. That's him, He's gone, We're out here, which
is what he would want too. Then there was Erica.

(07:48):
I want to plagiarize a little bit about what somebody
else said on X before you hear what she said.
But when I think about females, feminism, the women's movement,
all of that, I think they have missed so much

(08:11):
about how females influence society, influence civilization, and I think
feminism has undermined that female influence, and instead we end up,
as one of my followers says, we now have a
society that has cloaked in safetyism, endless hr rules, a

(08:36):
culture of niceness instead of real strength. He writes, once
women held the deepest influence in our society, not by
grabbing titles, but by inspiring their men to fight fierce
battles for them in politics, in war, and in life itself.

(09:00):
And that one paragraph really hit me because that's the
wiscification of America, that's the emasculation of manhood. Because what
do men typically say when they are being honored for something,
or they are being asked a question about some great

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thing of bravery they've done, or some great thing they've
done to help somebody whatever else. They always point to
either their wives or their mothers. I tend to point
nothing about Tamra. This is not meant to be derogatory
toward Tamar whatsoever. But it is my mother that instilled

(09:44):
in me the fierceness that is in me now. Of course,
my dad was pretty fierce too, I mean, after all,
he was an army drill sergeant. But it was my
mother that was always about, you know, you've got to
go fight battles, and you've got to do good, and
you've got you've got to be smart, and you've got
to I mean, she that's just what she was, and

(10:06):
that's what mothers do. And we ought to recognize that
you can be a stay at home mother and still
have an amazing influence. You can be a career woman
and still have an amazing influence. But feminism, as that
term is used by the left, really has undermined female

(10:26):
influence in Western civilization. When great men of the past said,
you know, I owe everything to my mom. I owe
everything to my mother and my wife, they actually meant
that because those women, their mothers and their wives pushed
them to take risks to lead to sacrifice, and if

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you had any ounce of brains in you, you listened.
Not all but the great ones serve their wives, and
they serve their wives by helping to establ published the
civilization in which men and women are both revered for

(11:07):
their respective abilities. Think about today, though risk taking at work,
you're gonna get punished ambition, they try to blunt it.
Some of the greatest men that I know are exhausted,

(11:30):
not because they stop listening to women, but because they're
forced to listen to everyone committees, colleagues, bosses, yes, wives
and mothers. But it's a cacophony that drains rather than
inspires men to greatness. The irony is that's not anti feminist,
it's pro female. It's pro women. Western civilization was and

(11:54):
will be again stronger when women stop trading their unique
power for fake authority, when they inspire men to be
great and in serving them, men build greatness. Women, we
can't live without you. Sometimes we can't live with you,
but we can't live without you. And you have a

(12:14):
much greater influence on society than I think people are
willing to recognize. Erica Kirk represented the kind. Before we
get to eric Ka Kirk, one more thing. Selena Zito
a wonderful writer, wonderful mother, a career woman, a very

(12:39):
if you ever met she is an amazingly strong willed woman.
I'm attracted to strong willed women. You haven't met Tammerck,
then you don't understand what they mean. She wrote this
on X. The left and the press and the never
Trump folks were expecting a whole Stone moment. Do you

(13:03):
remember the funeral for Senator Wellstone do you remember that
that absolute disastrous memorial service in which it turned into
an absolute fiasco. Well, we didn't have a Wellstone moment. Now,

(13:24):
there were a couple of times that Trump said a
few things that I thought to myself, Mmm, you know,
come on, But then I think, well, it's Trump. Quit
taking him literally. He can't help himself. As I told
Dragon in our pre production meeting, there are certain things
that I think are like golf balls, because he's a
golfer that he gets slammed in the temple, and that
golf ball that has these four or five ideas get

(13:45):
stuck right over here in this temple, and he can't
get rid of them until another golf ball comes and
hits him in the head and replaces that with another
set of ideas, and he perseverates on those over and
over and over. And he did that a couple of
times in his eulogy to Charlie. But he caught himself,
and he came right back, and he got right back

(14:05):
and focused on Charlie. He said, for example, that Charlie
was always trying to teach him to love his enemies.
And he told the audience, but I can't do that.
I've tried, but I hate my enemies. Sorry, Charlie, but
I hate my enemies. You're better than I am. I
thought that was an amazing moment of self awareness that

(14:30):
here he was eulogizing someone that, I mean, my god,
the entire how rare somebody. A friend of mine and
a family member both criticized the amount of security when
they heard that this was a Level one National Special
Security event and in ssee as we referred to him

(14:52):
in Homeland security, and I said, wait, it's not because
of Charlie Kirk. No, that's not the reason the secure
is that high. There would be security regardless. But the
reason the security is a is at an n s
S level is because it's like a State of the
Union speech. The President, the vice President, and almost the

(15:15):
entire cabinet, numerous probably hundreds of members of Congress and
the Senate were at that event. So yes, that's the
reason the security was so high. In fact, I texted
my daughter and said, how does it feel that to
know that the majority of the United States government is,

(15:35):
you know, twenty or twenty five miles away from your house,
and they're all and they're they're all in there right now,
and that's that's why it was so such a security event.
But Trump did in terms of TV production to show
how well he knows how to work an audience, how

(16:01):
to work a crowd, how to control any event. Was
after his speech, he did his typical thing. You know,
you've seen him do this, where he steps aside from
the lectern and he you know, coach always unbuttoned and
he's standing there kind of kind of leaning forward a
little bit. He puts his hands out and he does
that kind of funny hands, you know, hand clapping, you know,

(16:23):
to the audience. He's like he's clapping at the audience.
He did that for a few moments, and then he
stepped back to the podium and he asked Erica to
come out, and Erica walked out and gave him a
bear hug, and he hugged her right back, patted her,

(16:45):
held her head, brushed her hair, kissed her on the head,
hugged her, you know, then presented her to the audience
again kind of you know, put his arm around her
and kind of walked her toward the you know, the
front of the stage, and then stepped back. I'm sure
at that point Secret Service was absolutely petrified because here
he was stepping outside the bulletproof glass and doing that

(17:10):
a couple of times and then allowing her to walk
off while he clapped at the audience and walked off
to an amazing command of a crowd, an amazing commandant
of a crowd and understanding his audience. Absolutely brilliant on

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his part. So Zito Selena Zito is absolutely correct that
was not a Wellstone moment that the Democrats were looking for.
I stepped over to CNN and MSNBC numerous times, particularly
after the event was over, to listen to their commentary,

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and it was it was it was still anti Trump,
not realizing that they had just seen something that a
British pastor pointed out as one of the greatest revival
services he's seen. It's like, let me get back. We'll
hear Eric and Kurt and I want to tell you

(18:13):
what this British pastor said too, because it really does
sum up what really occurred.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Yesterday, Michael. The best women pushed their men to be
the virtuous man who comes to their rescue, and men
see that you as an opportunity to not only rescue
the ones they love, but to protect all those around
them and it spurs everyone on to greatness. So yes,

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women have the right and the responsibility to make their
men better by showing them how to be.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Valiant, valiant. I love that word. Where was she see?
I can't help but listening to the background noise. Was
she in a restaurant? Was she the gym? What was
she doing an amusement park? Or something like? Are you
on the roller coaster? What are you doing? What are
you doing out there? Yes? I misspoke, Okay, So Phoenix

(19:12):
is an hour behind this. I never can remember whether
it's I just know that it's different than us right
now exactly because they don't do the stupid things that
we do. And I did. I forgot about Marco Rubio.
Marco Rubio was brilliant, proving once again he is one
of the brightest spots on that cabin.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
Was impactful, impactful because of all the things I said.
But look around this place. There's one hundred and something
thousand people here. The President of the United States is here,
his entire cabinet is here. Television, audio outlets and media
outlets from all over the world they're covering this. I
just came from overseas and every country I stopped they

(19:53):
gave us their condolence this first.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Passing, And think about that.

Speaker 6 (19:58):
Now.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
I've talked to Marco Rubio in person a lot, and
he is not prone to exaggeration, So I absolutely believe
him when he says that. Wherever I've been, all these
world leaders have expressed their condolences to me. That's that's fascinating, impactful.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
In just thirty one years of life, he made a difference.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
He mattered, and he will matter now more than he
ever has before.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
And let me close with this, how do you remember?
This is a memorial service, it's to honor him. How
do you best remember it? I'll take the liberty of
saying what I think we can best do. Look, I
think he had an in tremendous impact on young.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Americans in general.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
I think he had a very special and direct impact
on young men in this country. That's one of the
greatest developments I've seen that's been very positive. I think
we remember him for that. I think we remember him
for constantly saying you want to live a productive life,

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get married, start a family, love your country.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
These are powerful messages.

Speaker 5 (21:07):
But I hope many who are watching. I imagine there
are people watching here tonight. That didn't know much about
Charlie Kirk until eleven days ago. Maybe they were disengaged
from politics. Maybe they were partially engaged. I hope one
of the things they take from this is that the
movement Charlie Kirk led and started and gave fuel to
was about politics, but not only about politics.

Speaker 7 (21:27):
It was deeper, It was broader.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
And I would say that taking the liberty, but I'm
confident he would agree. One of the things he wants
us to take away from this, from all of this
is the following.

Speaker 7 (21:40):
His deep belief.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
That we were all created, every single one of us,
before the beginning of time, by the hands of the
God of the universe and all powerful God, who loved
us and created us for the purpose of living with
him in eternity. But then sin entered the world and
separated us from our creator. And so God took on
the form of a man and came down and lived

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among us, and he suffered like.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Men, and he died like a man.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
But on the third day he rose unlike any mortal man.
And then, and to prove any doubters wrong, he ate
with his disciples so they could see and they touched
his wounds.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
He didn't rise as a.

Speaker 5 (22:24):
Ghost or as a spirit, but his flesh. And then
he rose to the heaven. But he promised he would return,
and he will. And when he returns, because he took
on that death, because he carried that cross, we were
free from the sin that separated.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Us from him.

Speaker 5 (22:39):
And when he returns, there will be a new heaven
and a.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
New earth, and we.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
Will all be together, and we are going to have
a great reunion there again with Charlie and all the
people we love. Thank you and God bless you.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Preach it, Marco, preach it, baby, preach it. Yeah, he
was really good. I don't uh, and again I don't
have it in our folders. But he started out talking
about how Charlie decided he was going to take on
this mission on college campuses, and Marco said something, and

(23:17):
I'm paraphrasing here to the effect that it probably would
have been easier to started this mission in communist Cuba,
which I thought was one freaking hilarious two So on point,
because that's the communism that Marco understands from his family.

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That's exactly what he understands. This British minister by the
name of Jamie Bambrick wrote, my dear American friends, we
British Christians would get excited when one time a year
Queen Elizabeth would make a mild but sincere reference to
the love of Jesus Christ in her Christmas address. In
Charlie Kirk's memorial service watched by tens of millions, I

(24:01):
just heard and that he has a litany of things
that he heard that is the opposite of the Wellstone moment,
is the opposite of the Wellstone memorial and perfectly encapsulates
the difference between these two political parties. Not everyone in

(24:26):
this political party agrees with all of these things, but
we don't shun them, we don't push them aside, we
don't detegrate them. I think it showed that this is
a big tent and that all are welcome, even if
I disagree with say a lifestyle or a particular issue

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or whatever. For example. You know there's I have in
my notes, but let me just reference it now that
our two party system being a binary system Republicans and Democrats.
I know there's these little minor parties out there will
until some cataclysmic event, it will remain a binary system

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them and us. Republicans and Democrats, and because it is
a binary system, we accept that. While I know Susan
Collins of Maine and I don't necessarily like her politics,
I know that for the state of Maine, she's the
best choice and at least she's on our side. And

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people in the party would disagree with that, and they
would say that we should we should fight. Not if
you want to fight and you want to try to
get someone more conservative elected in Maine, than all power
till you go do it. But if that's what Maine
wants and that's what we get, then we ought to
embrace her and work with her to try to get

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her to do things that we would like for her
to do, both the way we'd like to get her
to vote. Again, that's just me living in the real world.
Back to Jamie Bambrick. In Charlie Kirk's memorial service watched
by tens of millions, I just heard multiple clear presentations
of the Gospel from men like any names, a couple

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of ministers with clear calls to repentance and faith, worship,
songs full of scripture sung by tens of thousands, lives
sung by tens of thousands, live and millions at home.
Personal testimonies of lives transformed by the work of Christ
and the witness of believers. Demonstration and explanation of the
value of marriage, child rearing, and family. Calls to Roman

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thirteen for the government to bear the sword for the
protection of good and the punishment of the wicked. Declarations
of spiritual warfare on the forces of evil and promises
to endure no matter of the cost. Calls to be
prophets and call the nation to repent. More scripture references
and Bible readings than I can count, and a widow
publicly forgiving her husband's killer because Christ forgave his killers

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on the cross. All of it done before and by
the most powerful people in your nation and the world. You, guys,
he ends should be on your knees thanking God for
your country because it is a light to the world.
Never stop fighting for it. Amen.

Speaker 8 (27:29):
And then at the end, he would always end it.

Speaker 7 (27:33):
With asking the most beautiful question.

Speaker 8 (27:38):
He'd always end it by asking, please let me know
how I can better serve you as a husband. Charlie
perfectly understood God's role for a Christian husband, a man
who leads so that they.

Speaker 7 (27:57):
Can serve.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
So powerful, amazingly powerful, and then.

Speaker 9 (28:07):
Michael, I watched the entire service yesterday and I cried
throughout the entire thing. It was unbelievable what I was witnessing.
The Holy Spirit was moving through that stadium and touching
the hearts and souls of young and old alike. I
wish the Democrats had been able to watch that service
with open hearts and minds, but they can't, and it's
unfortunate because what they would have seen was the love

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of family, faith, and country, and that's what we need
to get back to.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Some Democrats watched it. But Trump being Trump again, I
thought his speech. I told Dragon my opinion of Trump's
remarks were, he was seventy five percent spot on, and
he's twenty five percent Donald Trump. That's always just kind
of missing the mark. Just no, don't go there. This

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is not the right place to go there. But Trump,
that's amazing, and I still maintain he was the the
absolute master consoler in chief during that. But I want
to get to Erica because if if you and I've
read the text, I've read your text messages and I'm

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the same way I am. I'm not as good as
Erica Kirk is, and I hope that Erica is able
to maintain that because there have to be dark moments.
I guess maybe there doesn't have to be, but I

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assume there are dark moments when maybe she doesn't really
feel this way. But the fact that she can say
this publicly, yeah, really brought tears in my eyes and
made me think, Boy, what an sob I am.

Speaker 6 (30:00):
That young man on the cross, Our Savior said, Father, forgive.

Speaker 8 (30:10):
Them, for they not know what they do.

Speaker 7 (30:16):
That man, that young man, I forgive him.

Speaker 8 (31:12):
I forgive him because it was what Christ did and
is what Charlie would do. The answer to.

Speaker 7 (31:22):
Hate is not hate.

Speaker 8 (31:25):
The answer we know from the Gospel is love and
always love, love for our enemies, and love for those
who persecute us.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Amazing, absolutely amazing. Forgiveness is probably one of the strongest,
most powerful things that a human being can do. Yet
to forgive is such a complicated thing. In my opinion,

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it's liberating. It allows your mind to go much further
because the hate and all that comes with that, the
seeking of retribution, the seeking of I'm going to get
even the it just eats at the individual, it eats

(32:27):
at the soul. Forgiveness is just like a really good cleansing.
I don't mean a physical cleansing, but they just you know,
you know, you know how sheets You crawl into a
bed that's been made with newly laundered sheets or new sheets,

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and it's got that smell. It's just so refreshing, and
it's just so nice and it's so comfortable. It's that
that's what it does for your soul. It cleanses your soul.
And that's what she was doing in front of millions
of people. She was setting an example, an example that

(33:10):
quite honestly, in these quarters, I'm not quite certain that
I could do. But I would like to think, having
watched that and having been as touched by it as
I was, that the next time I need to forgive somebody,
well maybe some president company accepted, the next time I
really had to seriously forgive somebody, I hope I'll think

(33:31):
about that. I hope I'll remember what she did, because
that had to be one of the toughest things for
her to do. Think about Charlie's parents sitting that audience
watching her do that. I don't know them. They've remained
out of the limelight, they've remained totally off camera. As

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far as I can tell, she set an example for
them too. She set an example for Charlie's mother. Imagine
that that's the power of a woman.