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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And Michael Brown.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Why would someone kill someone else if they have the
same points of view, political points of view, religious points
of view, why would they kill a like minded person.
It just that's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Yeah, I like that Michael Brown and what he stands for.
I'm gonna shoot.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Him, I I told the earlier talk back.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I don't have that answer it makes It doesn't make
any more sense to me than it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Make any sense to you.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Just like that MSL former MSNBC guest that said, hey,
maybe it was just celebratory fire. I totally agree back
back bang. You know, like the Texas oil man in
the Simpsons episodeby Sam, just start shooting.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
That's the best, right ulo simbody, Sam, That's just that's
just wildly shoot in.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
The air about everything. Oh good grief.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Oh and you know, in fact, I should say, oh god,
I throw it away. No, I didn't. I need to
say this Michael Brown minute that I did about guns.
We should do that story tomorrow because that's that's that's
pretty interesting too.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Rossa Shawna. The Jewish New.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Year, we're talking about we're we're just talking.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
About it, am I interrupting you, of course, Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I'm sure you saw it, but are our associates Junior?
You know, producer sent out mass emails over the weekend.
I don't know if you saw the headline of this one,
but yes, the Charlie Kirk shooting, yes is marked down
as a school Oh yeah, yes.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I did see that. I get to remind yes, the
Charlie kip. I didn't read the story. I I pulled
the dragon. I just read the subject, the headline. I
saw the headline. Yes, the Charlie Kirk assassination is listed
under school shootings. Yep, believable. You can't make this, you
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know what, You simply cannot. Anyway, Happy New Year, told
my Jewish friends. Which is kind of interesting because yesterday,
you know, the United Nations is meeting. Uh they start
their meetings either today or tomorrow. So the the Star
Wars barroom scene will be meeting in New York pretty soon.
(02:17):
And I, you know, I so desperately want to paint
Craft Company the seven two zero?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Should we answered on air Dragon? I haven't read the
text yet, so I don't know what I don't know.
I'm getting a phone call right now. Oh oh yeah,
it's too late.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Now if they called the station. Then I would definitely
say yes, because then I can put them on the
air without even telling them right there on the air.
But somebody calling your own personal phone, there's as I have.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
No idea what it is. Yeah, but updated to the
new operating system, so h it'll be marked as junk
or it'll say to them, who are you and why
are you called?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Right? Yeah, yeah, you can do that. Now.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I love it. I haven't heard it yet, but I
can't wait. I guess I'll find out in a minute.
So anyway, Happy New Year at all my Jewish friends, and
of all times the bar at the same time. Think
about this. So you've got Rostershana, you've got the Star
Wars bar scene all collecting at the United Nations this
week and then yesterday, well all this is getting ready
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to happen. Three of our strongest allies, United Kingdom, Canada
and the Ossies down Under recognized a state of Palestine.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Could you please point to that on the map for me?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Well, in fact, my notes say, could someone show me
the borders.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
We haven't gotten our you know, googer listener map yet, Michael,
but you know we could could somebody at least because.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Someone draw force an email it to show us where
it is, and not just the borders.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Where's the capital? What's the capital? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
And then who runs the government? I mean it's just
it's the state. They recognize the quote state of Palestine.
So I'm looking for borders, capital and the government.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Now, so let's do this.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Let's step back and let's pretend, like like Canada, the
United Kingdom and the Aussies. Assi's let's let's pretend for
a moment that Palestine is real.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
What do we know about it? What do you know
about it?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well, we know that the West Bank government is a
state sponsor of terrorism. It funds what are called martyrs payments.
In other words, if you if you go out and
commit an act of terrorism and the idea for somebody
else you know, kills you, well you get you get
a martyrs payment. Now, it doesn't do you any good
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because you're a martyr, which you know kind of in
any case that you're dead, but your your family will
get payments for that. Lots of money. They underwrite various brigades.
They're engaged in terror against Jews, and interestingly not just Jews,
but to show you how communists, something like the state
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of Palestine is they also engage in terror against non
compliant Palestinians. Now, if the country doesn't exist, be a
non compliant Palestinian, doesn't that make everybody a non compliant Palestinian.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Now, we know the Gaza government is Hamas. We know
the West Bank is a kleptocracy with its leaders net
worth in the billions. And by the way, the leader
of the West by the Hamas leaders, Uh, they don't
live well realatively speaking, they don't live anywhere near.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
The Gaza strip. They live in cutter or guitar or cutter,
whatever you want to pronounce it.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
We know both the West Bank and Gaza are completely reliant,
totally reliant on aid from the outside world. Tell me
what they produce in Hammasque, Tell me what they produce
in the Gaza strip. Tell me about their school system,
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because they don't do a very good job of education. Well,
they do a very good job of indoctrination, but they
don't do a very good job of educating. And let's
think about security for their own people. Because if you're
going to use your own people to as ponds and
put them in the line of fire between you and
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your enemy. They clearly don't provide security for their own people.
So you know, as many people mistakenly believe that the
number one obligation of government in this country is to
keep us safe. Well, no, it's not true in this country.
I don't think it's true in whatever the state of
Palestine is either, And I know you counter. There are
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other countries that have disported butters, disputed bitter, that have
disputed borders. India has a disputed border and China has
a disputed border. India and Pakistan, they both have disputed borders,
and that's true. So are parts of India, Pakistan or
China governed by rival factions?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
No, they're not.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
But Libya is Libya is. It is governed by rival factions.
But we only recognize one faction. Now true. The amount
of Video Convention in nineteen thirty three says a new
state should have these things a defined territory. So you know,
there's always a dispute. We had our own dispute with Mexico,
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the Gadsden purchase. That's why New Mexico is shaped. New
Mexico and Arizona shape the way their shaped. A permanent population,
a government which in effect has control and administration over
the population, a capacity to enter into relations with other states.
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You have diplomatic ties, you enter into treaties, all of
that sort of stuff, right, I don't see any of that.
You can go to any AI platform, you can go
to the Google machine, you can go anything. But you
can pretend. You can pretend now to enter the United
If if Palestine wants to enter the United Nations as
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a full member state, you have to have a recommendation
from the Security Council and then a two thirds vote
of approval from the General Assembly.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
So any veto.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Wielding member can block accession to the United Nations. I
kind of think the United States would object on the
Security Council. So what does recognition from London, Paris and Canberra,
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from the UK, France and Australia, what does it mean
for Palestine?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Well, if it doesn't mean anything, then why are you
doing it? And that's what the Western game is all about.
If the well being of the Palestinian people, such as
they are air quotes around Palestinian, if the well being
of those people was first and foremost in the minds
of Prime Minister Starmer or President Macron or the Prime
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Minister of Australia Albanese. Then I would think that those
leaders would have set in places safety guards for democratic
governance for the residents in the West Bank or the
Gaza Strip.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Surely over decades.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Now they would have worked to build some institutions resist
the rise of Islamic extremism, have elections, accountability from the
Romala government. But you show me any evidence of that,
because you know what, there is no evidence of that.
The truth is that Starmar and all these other Yahoos
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are uninterested in the people that they call Palestinians. What
are they actually concerned with. They're concerned by their own
constituents and their growing radical demands of the Western left.
That's what they care about. They don't care about any
group of people, whether you and label them Palestinians or
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anything else. They only care about capitulating and gene reflecting
to the radical left in their countries. You know, a
lot of the anti apartheid movement of the seventies and eighties,
they cared little for who would govern South Africa's black
or brown people. As long as they were white. That's
all they cared about. Just you can't be white. I
think this so called Palestinian Party is indifferent to the
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true plight of the residents of the West Bank or
gosp The only thing that there is something that's very important, though,
and that is they're indifferent to the plight. They're indifferent
to the governance as long as the Jews aren't around,
as long as they're not governed by the Jews, influenced
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by the Jews, live next to the Jews. In fact,
as long as the Jews just don't exist, that's really
all they care about. From the river to the sea,
that's the demand of the decolonized anti Semites. Palestinians are
kind of like the plush toys of today's leftists. Yahoos,
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So what's in it for the Marxist nostalgic Remember how
Marx felt about the Jews. This is nothing more than
simple politics. It's basic raw politics. Kiir Starmer in the
brick in the United Kingdom is struggling in the polls. Okay,
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why do you think he was so happy to meet
with of course he would have met regardless of his
polls standing. He would have met with Trump during the
state visit regardless. But he was ecstatic about it. Why
because he's about to lose his prime ministership. He's desperate
to try to increase his extremest political confederates to save him.
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He's a far lefty. Keir Starmer truly is a Marxist.
Mark Carnio in Canada is presiding over a collapse of
Canada and like France, a growing islam As constituency and
a right the supports Israel and Albanese. In Australia is
just as weak, lamely flating his manhood in the vague
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direction of the hard left labor compatriots slabbering over Australia
is eight hundred thousand most Muslims. The motives are embarrassingly clear.
Well wait a minute, you're hear from But this is justice,
says those in the left. Do not the so called
Palestinians deserve self determination. Can Israel hope to rule over
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the West Bank in Gaza forever? This two state solution,
that's the only way forward, right, No, let's go to
the beginning. There's never been a Palestine. The name was
chosen to nullify jday A two millennia ago. Islam had
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not even been born yet. The natives of the land
were driven forth by the Romans. In the modern era,
the territory that is so called Palestine lived under Ottoman
rule and then the British rule. In so far as
there was a so called Palestine, it was a Palestine
a Zionist, the holy land of the Jews. Yet still
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the damass United Nations partition offered a Palestine to the
Arabs of that land. And guess what they did. You
remember your history. When it was offered to them, they
rejected it. And when the war that the Arabs wage
to ensure that there would be no Israel, when they
lost that war, the Arabs, then sovereign over what was Palestine,
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were neither pressured nor asked to deliver sovereignty to anybody.
Why because their aim at that time was the eradication
of Israel. That's why they wouldn't accept the state of Palestine,
and that's why they immediately, almost immediately.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Went to war.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
If you remember the first Palestinian National Charter before the
Six Day War, that charter renounced claims to the West
Bank and Gaza. The land they were demanding just before
the Sixth Day War was all of Israel.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
That has not changed the aim of.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
The leadership of the movement for Palestine has one simple goal,
and it is not a state in the West Bank,
it is not a state in Gaza. It is the
eradication of the Jewish state. It is the eradication of
Jewish people everywhere. That's what Amas wants, and that's what's
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supported by the majority of the people that call themselves
Palestinian and apparently a lot of people in the Western
world too.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Offered half a loaf.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
With the leadership of the West Bank and Gaza ever settled,
what do you think, I don't think they'd ever sell.
They they survive on the death and destruction of Jews,
and they survive on the death and destruction of their
own civilian populations. Why do you think Hamas, Why do
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you think the leadership of Hamas doesn't live in Gaza City?
Why do you think the leadership of Hamas lives, you know,
on the other side of the river. They live in
Cutter They live nicely, safely, richly, ensconced in Connor. And
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the Israelis know that, and that's why they Well, let's
send a few jets over and love a few bombs
on their headquarters and see what happens. You have when
you think about the history. How can you wonder the
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Israel or how can you imagine Israel would ever capitulate
to the demand for its own annihilation? Is there just
that one path forward equiescence two steaks. No, there's one
simple solution. The moss must go. It's all must go.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
At the beginning of the Charlie Kirk Memorial service, I
saw Elon Musk sitting all by himself in a section.
I texted a few friends saying, I wonder if Elon
and Donald Trump will make up because of Charlie Kirk. Well,
indeed they did. It is very telling things that happen
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when someone dies. Some people make up and for other people,
families break apart.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, I'm gonna say it. I don't know whether that
was genuine or not. I think I'm sure that Musk
wanted to be seen, and I'm sure that Trump obviously
had to tell Secret Service, Hey, go down and get
Elon and bring him up here. But was it more
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than a photo op?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Have either of them come out and said, yep, we're
best buddies again.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, So I'm reserving the fact they shook hands and
sat together for a while doesn't surprise me. But if
it goes beyond that, I will be surprised. Not because
I think they have a dislike for each other. I
think that Elon got his fingers burned in politics. And
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you look at the compensation package that the Tesla Board
of Directors has offered him. Yeah, you might want to
stay in Texas and build cars and shoot off rocket
ships and do stuff like that and stay away from DC.
We'll see, I mean, I don't know, we'll see anyway.
So back to this Palestinian state. So our allies declare that,
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you know, there is a state of Palestine. They recognize
the pretend state. I'm not quite sure what it means,
except they're capitulating to.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
The left wing faction of their.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Political parties, and to put up bluntly and a little harsher,
they're capitulating to Hamas because Hamas sees that and they see, oh,
we're further isolating Israel. Israel is rightfully so determined to
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eliminate their enemies, and I think it's I think it's
morally justified, it's legally justified, it's militarily justified. And the
fact that they use civilians to hide behind, well, that's
a choice that they made and the IDF does everything
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they possibly can to minimize that. But when you're involved
in urban warfare, bad things are going to happen, and
we have to accept that bad things are going to happen.
Go back to that first Palestine Palestine National Charter just
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before the Sixth Day War, they renounced all their claims
to the West Bank and Gaza. They wanted the entire
state of Israel and that has never changed, never wavered.
It is the eradication of the Jewish state which is
the objective. And by recognizing a so called pudity fake
state of Palestine, the UK, France, Canada and Australia have
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all capitulated to a terrorist organization that admitted atrocities in
October seven, two years ago.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
And have strengthened them in so doing.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
The people, well, before I get to the Jews, if
there were a Palestinian government, it would have to accept
Israel's right to live in peace and security. And if
you're involved in negotiations, that's a non starter for them.
They'll live, they'll prevaricate, they'll be wishy washy, they'll try
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to convince you otherwise, but at their heart they hamas fatal.
They will never let go. They have to renounce terrorism.
They simply cannot do that. That is the very nature
of them. They are terrorists. In addition to I mean
just getting to the nitty gritty, there needs to be
a viable reconstruction plan that benefits the people that.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Live in the West man or that live in God's in.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Particular, not that benefits the kleptocracy of those leaders that
live in those areas, and absent any or all of
those things, Israel cannot and should not agree to one
single thing.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
The people of Israel survive far greater predations than the
weak performative gestures that the anti Semites in those Western
civilized countries are now reigning. But here's one lesson that
I think is clear. There can be only one response
to the people who wish you ill, who wish you vaporized,
who wish you eliminated from the face of the earth,
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strength will in victory. Anything else is just an empty gesture.
None of these people in those countries are doing anything
they'll help so called Palestinians. In fact, I would argue
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it's not even meant to help the Palestinians. It's meant
really to deal with their own internal political problems that
every single one of those countries have. We have it
in this country too, but we haven't capitulated to it.
In fact, we've had universities professors fired for allowing that
kind of anti semitism on their campus. We've told our
State Department has told people, you want to come to
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this country and you're anti Semitic and you call for terrorism,
you advocate terrorism, you advocate the demise, the eradication of
the Jews. Way, you're not going to get a visa.
We don't want you here. And I think that's morally
and legally the right thing to do. All those countries
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that have made this announcement yesterday, they've all got left,
and they have, in most cases, very large Muslim populations
that are attacking Israel. We cannot sugarcoat that they have
large population of these migrant asylum seekers, illegal aliens we
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call them here, migrant asylum seekers who are taking over
and destroying their own those countries cultures, and what are
these leaders doing. They're kissing their feet, they're capitulating to them.
So the only effect of recognizing a Palestinian state is
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actually striking at Israel itself. And remember it doesn't help again,
this soul colored Palestinians. It doesn't help those people living
in Gaza, the West Bank, it doesn't help them at all.
It's it's very striking that it's not just the timing
after October seventh, it's the lack of condition of conditionality.
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To be fair to the Belgians, for example, they said, well,
we're not going to do this until there's a ceasefire
and every hostage has been released. Now, personally, I don't
think that's enough, but that's certainly more than what these
other four countries have done. England, France, Australia, Canada have
put no conditions whatsoever. They haven't said anything about the hostages.
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What they have said, which is utterly ludicrous. We're doing
this because we have promises from mockmood of Boss, the
Palestinian president. Really until he flew a plane into the
North Tower of the South Tower, it would be the
World Trade Center. I had all these promises from what
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was his name, I'll do the leader of the nine
eleven group. He made all sorts of promises. Yeah, claike
ksn claik shake. Muhammed makes all sorts of promises. Why
because he went out, he went out of a GYPMO.
They're meaningless, absolutely meaningless, and so is any promise from
a boss. And on the basis of those promises, we're
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supposed to go forward and recognize a Palestinian state. Those
countries really are in some kind of denial.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
It's some kind of.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Stupidity, and it's all theater. Look at look at President
Macron for example, and look at look at how he
announces it. Now, why didn't he say I today recognize
a Palestinian state and instead say I'm going to do
this in late September and New York the General Assembly,
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or I go even further, I'm going to do this
when Hamas surrenders and lays down its arms. You know,
you know why it didn't because it's all theater, it's
all performative, and the impact within the United Nations system
itself is zero. Do you know that Palestine is already
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a non member observer state. Now it can't be a
member state because we're going to veto that detail that
in the Security Council and we can talk about the
political impact, the impact on reputation, but the international legal impact.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Is going to be ziltz. Nothing.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Nothing's going to happen, can or do people and they
are argue that somehow this is a one step, this
is the first baby step to a two state solution.
My answer is no, and the reason is well, it's
not going to work. It's not going to satisfy Palastinian nationalism.
People will say, well, well, you see, Palestinians demand a
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state and they have a right to a state. Well
go back to that too, and once they have a state,
there will be peace. I don't believe that for one second,
not one second. You've got to recognize who you are
dealing with. Do I feel sorry for the people in Gaza?
I absolutely do to a degree. And I only say
to a degree because it's easy for me to sit
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safely in the studio and talk about how I would
never allow some terrorist organization to take over my country
and then put my wife, or my children or my
family out there as as targets for the enemy. But
that's what they've done. They've had a lot, They've allowed
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Hamas to literally take over their country, to take over
the and I think it was five when they turned
over the Gaza strip, and I knew at the time
that over time, a time period I didn't know how
long we'd reached this point, and here we are.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Michael.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
We cannot have a discussion about the climate crisis unless
we include a discussion about the geoengineering warfare that is
going on. I am not denying the other impacts that
humans have caused in this climate, but we need to
discuss the geoengineering that is going on.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Period back to Palestine. So what would be a next step, Well,
the war's got to end. It's got to end, that's
the first thing. You're not going to end this kind
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of paroxysm of hatred of Israel or anti Israeli activity
while the war is on, because well Al Jazeera, the
Muslim populations all over the world, a lot of liberal,
left leaning politicians and so called Western civilization countries respond
actually just to one thing they respond is to Israeli's
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committing acts of violence. That is to say, war against
the Arabs, against Palestinians. That excites the opposition.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
So the war's going to have to end. The only
way for the war to end.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Is for Natanya Hudna's war cabinet to eliminate Hamas and
then it's going to take a lot of reconstruction she's
going to take you know, the day after kind of concept.
So the war either ends with a deal in which
the hostages are released, Hamas is relegated back to Cutter
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or Jordan or wherever they can send them, or they're
just eliminated. It ends with an Israeli conquest. There were
moments over the past twelve months when I thought it
looked like a deal was going to bring an end
to it, But I sincerely do not believe that Hamas
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wants to end the war. Think about you know, in
this country, we often talked about how easy it is
for members of Congress or a president to send their
children off to war, because well, their children don't do it.
It's just everybody else's kids have to go fight the war.
Remember that trope that goes around all the time. Hamas
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actually practices that nobody in their immediate family, nobody in
their extended family's in danger. They're all living off their
billions that they have scooped off the top of all
the aid that's been sent and living comfortably in Sconced
while they were comfortably in Sconced until Israel said, ah,
we've had enough of that too, So they have nothing
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at risk. They have no motivation whatsoever. In fact, their
motivation may be if the war ends, then you know,
how do we then corruptly start skimming off all of
the aid that's going to come in from the reconstruction.
So I I think Hamas is somehow convinced. And what
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worries me is they could could be right about this
that if they just keep dragging this out, the tide
as it does, ever so slightly once in a while
turn against Israel because you know, we hear all the
claims and charges of genocide and everything else there was
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there was at one point, there was never one occasion
where the Israelis rejected a deal that hamasen agreed to.
Well false statements. The Israelis accepted the deals, Hamas turned
them down. They'd offer a deal, Israel tod say okay,
then Hamas to say, oh never mind, I'm not going
to do it. So this thing that happened yesterday, when
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those four countries declared that there was a state of Palestine,
my head exploded.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
There is no such thing
And Michael Brown.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Why would someone kill someone else if they have the
same points of view, political points of view, religious points
of view, why would they kill a like minded person.
It just that's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Yeah, I like that Michael Brown and what he stands for.
I'm gonna shoot.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Him, I I told the earlier talk back.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I don't have that answer it makes It doesn't make
any more sense to me than it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Make any sense to you.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Just like that MSL former MSNBC guest that said, hey,
maybe it was just celebratory fire. I totally agree back
back bang. You know, like the Texas oil man in
the Simpsons episodeby Sam, just start shooting.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
That's the best, right ulo simbody, Sam, That's just that's
just wildly shoot in.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
The air about everything. Oh good grief.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Oh and you know, in fact, I should say, oh god,
I throw it away. No, I didn't. I need to
say this Michael Brown minute that I did about guns.
We should do that story tomorrow because that's that's that's
pretty interesting too.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Rossa Shawna. The Jewish New.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Year, we're talking about we're we're just talking.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
About it, am I interrupting you, of course, Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I'm sure you saw it, but are our associates Junior?
You know, producer sent out mass emails over the weekend.
I don't know if you saw the headline of this one,
but yes, the Charlie Kirk shooting, yes is marked down
as a school Oh yeah, yes.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I did see that. I get to remind yes, the
Charlie kip. I didn't read the story. I I pulled
the dragon. I just read the subject, the headline. I
saw the headline. Yes, the Charlie Kirk assassination is listed
under school shootings. Yep, believable. You can't make this, you
(01:54):
know what, You simply cannot. Anyway, Happy New Year, told
my Jewish friends. Which is kind of interesting because yesterday,
you know, the United Nations is meeting. Uh they start
their meetings either today or tomorrow. So the the Star
Wars barroom scene will be meeting in New York pretty soon.
(02:17):
And I, you know, I so desperately want to paint
Craft Company the seven two zero?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Should we answered on air Dragon? I haven't read the
text yet, so I don't know what I don't know.
I'm getting a phone call right now. Oh oh yeah,
it's too late.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Now if they called the station. Then I would definitely
say yes, because then I can put them on the
air without even telling them right there on the air.
But somebody calling your own personal phone, there's as I have.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
No idea what it is. Yeah, but updated to the
new operating system, so h it'll be marked as junk
or it'll say to them, who are you and why
are you called?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Right? Yeah, yeah, you can do that. Now.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I love it. I haven't heard it yet, but I
can't wait. I guess I'll find out in a minute.
So anyway, Happy New Year at all my Jewish friends, and
of all times the bar at the same time. Think
about this. So you've got Rostershana, you've got the Star
Wars bar scene all collecting at the United Nations this
week and then yesterday, well all this is getting ready
(03:30):
to happen. Three of our strongest allies, United Kingdom, Canada
and the Ossies down Under recognized a state of Palestine.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Could you please point to that on the map for me?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Well, in fact, my notes say, could someone show me
the borders.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
We haven't gotten our you know, googer listener map yet, Michael,
but you know we could could somebody at least because.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Someone draw force an email it to show us where
it is, and not just the borders.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Where's the capital? What's the capital? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
And then who runs the government? I mean it's just
it's the state. They recognize the quote state of Palestine.
So I'm looking for borders, capital and the government.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Now, so let's do this.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Let's step back and let's pretend, like like Canada, the
United Kingdom and the Aussies. Assi's let's let's pretend for
a moment that Palestine is real.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
What do we know about it? What do you know
about it?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well, we know that the West Bank government is a
state sponsor of terrorism. It funds what are called martyrs payments.
In other words, if you if you go out and
commit an act of terrorism and the idea for somebody
else you know, kills you, well you get you get
a martyrs payment. Now, it doesn't do you any good
(05:03):
because you're a martyr, which you know kind of in
any case that you're dead, but your your family will
get payments for that. Lots of money. They underwrite various brigades.
They're engaged in terror against Jews, and interestingly not just Jews,
but to show you how communists, something like the state
(05:24):
of Palestine is they also engage in terror against non
compliant Palestinians. Now, if the country doesn't exist, be a
non compliant Palestinian, doesn't that make everybody a non compliant Palestinian.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Now, we know the Gaza government is Hamas. We know
the West Bank is a kleptocracy with its leaders net
worth in the billions. And by the way, the leader
of the West by the Hamas leaders, Uh, they don't
live well realatively speaking, they don't live anywhere near.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
The Gaza strip. They live in cutter or guitar or cutter,
whatever you want to pronounce it.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
We know both the West Bank and Gaza are completely reliant,
totally reliant on aid from the outside world. Tell me
what they produce in Hammasque, Tell me what they produce
in the Gaza strip. Tell me about their school system,
(06:36):
because they don't do a very good job of education. Well,
they do a very good job of indoctrination, but they
don't do a very good job of educating. And let's
think about security for their own people. Because if you're
going to use your own people to as ponds and
put them in the line of fire between you and
(06:58):
your enemy. They clearly don't provide security for their own people.
So you know, as many people mistakenly believe that the
number one obligation of government in this country is to
keep us safe. Well, no, it's not true in this country.
I don't think it's true in whatever the state of
Palestine is either, And I know you counter. There are
(07:21):
other countries that have disported butters, disputed bitter, that have
disputed borders. India has a disputed border and China has
a disputed border. India and Pakistan, they both have disputed borders,
and that's true. So are parts of India, Pakistan or
China governed by rival factions?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
No, they're not.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
But Libya is Libya is. It is governed by rival factions.
But we only recognize one faction. Now true. The amount
of Video Convention in nineteen thirty three says a new
state should have these things a defined territory. So you know,
there's always a dispute. We had our own dispute with Mexico,
(08:04):
the Gadsden purchase. That's why New Mexico is shaped. New
Mexico and Arizona shape the way their shaped. A permanent population,
a government which in effect has control and administration over
the population, a capacity to enter into relations with other states.
(08:25):
You have diplomatic ties, you enter into treaties, all of
that sort of stuff, right, I don't see any of that.
You can go to any AI platform, you can go
to the Google machine, you can go anything. But you
can pretend. You can pretend now to enter the United
If if Palestine wants to enter the United Nations as
(08:48):
a full member state, you have to have a recommendation
from the Security Council and then a two thirds vote
of approval from the General Assembly.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
So any veto.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Wielding member can block accession to the United Nations. I
kind of think the United States would object on the
Security Council. So what does recognition from London, Paris and Canberra,
(09:22):
from the UK, France and Australia, what does it mean
for Palestine?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Well, if it doesn't mean anything, then why are you
doing it? And that's what the Western game is all about.
If the well being of the Palestinian people, such as
they are air quotes around Palestinian, if the well being
of those people was first and foremost in the minds
of Prime Minister Starmer or President Macron or the Prime
(09:53):
Minister of Australia Albanese. Then I would think that those
leaders would have set in places safety guards for democratic
governance for the residents in the West Bank or the
Gaza Strip.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Surely over decades.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Now they would have worked to build some institutions resist
the rise of Islamic extremism, have elections, accountability from the
Romala government. But you show me any evidence of that,
because you know what, there is no evidence of that.
The truth is that Starmar and all these other Yahoos
(10:28):
are uninterested in the people that they call Palestinians. What
are they actually concerned with. They're concerned by their own
constituents and their growing radical demands of the Western left.
That's what they care about. They don't care about any
group of people, whether you and label them Palestinians or
(10:49):
anything else. They only care about capitulating and gene reflecting
to the radical left in their countries. You know, a
lot of the anti apartheid movement of the seventies and eighties,
they cared little for who would govern South Africa's black
or brown people. As long as they were white. That's
all they cared about. Just you can't be white. I
think this so called Palestinian Party is indifferent to the
(11:12):
true plight of the residents of the West Bank or
gosp The only thing that there is something that's very important, though,
and that is they're indifferent to the plight. They're indifferent
to the governance as long as the Jews aren't around,
as long as they're not governed by the Jews, influenced
(11:34):
by the Jews, live next to the Jews. In fact,
as long as the Jews just don't exist, that's really
all they care about. From the river to the sea,
that's the demand of the decolonized anti Semites. Palestinians are
kind of like the plush toys of today's leftists. Yahoos,
(11:58):
So what's in it for the Marxist nostalgic Remember how
Marx felt about the Jews. This is nothing more than
simple politics. It's basic raw politics. Kiir Starmer in the
brick in the United Kingdom is struggling in the polls. Okay,
(12:19):
why do you think he was so happy to meet
with of course he would have met regardless of his
polls standing. He would have met with Trump during the
state visit regardless. But he was ecstatic about it. Why
because he's about to lose his prime ministership. He's desperate
to try to increase his extremest political confederates to save him.
(12:43):
He's a far lefty. Keir Starmer truly is a Marxist.
Mark Carnio in Canada is presiding over a collapse of
Canada and like France, a growing islam As constituency and
a right the supports Israel and Albanese. In Australia is
just as weak, lamely flating his manhood in the vague
(13:07):
direction of the hard left labor compatriots slabbering over Australia
is eight hundred thousand most Muslims. The motives are embarrassingly clear.
Well wait a minute, you're hear from But this is justice,
says those in the left. Do not the so called
Palestinians deserve self determination. Can Israel hope to rule over
(13:31):
the West Bank in Gaza forever? This two state solution,
that's the only way forward, right, No, let's go to
the beginning. There's never been a Palestine. The name was
chosen to nullify jday A two millennia ago. Islam had
(13:54):
not even been born yet. The natives of the land
were driven forth by the Romans. In the modern era,
the territory that is so called Palestine lived under Ottoman
rule and then the British rule. In so far as
there was a so called Palestine, it was a Palestine
a Zionist, the holy land of the Jews. Yet still
(14:15):
the damass United Nations partition offered a Palestine to the
Arabs of that land. And guess what they did. You
remember your history. When it was offered to them, they
rejected it. And when the war that the Arabs wage
to ensure that there would be no Israel, when they
lost that war, the Arabs, then sovereign over what was Palestine,
(14:38):
were neither pressured nor asked to deliver sovereignty to anybody.
Why because their aim at that time was the eradication
of Israel. That's why they wouldn't accept the state of Palestine,
and that's why they immediately, almost immediately.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Went to war.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
If you remember the first Palestinian National Charter before the
Six Day War, that charter renounced claims to the West
Bank and Gaza. The land they were demanding just before
the Sixth Day War was all of Israel.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
That has not changed the aim of.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
The leadership of the movement for Palestine has one simple goal,
and it is not a state in the West Bank,
it is not a state in Gaza. It is the
eradication of the Jewish state. It is the eradication of
Jewish people everywhere. That's what Amas wants, and that's what's
(15:41):
supported by the majority of the people that call themselves
Palestinian and apparently a lot of people in the Western
world too.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Offered half a loaf.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
With the leadership of the West Bank and Gaza ever settled,
what do you think, I don't think they'd ever sell.
They they survive on the death and destruction of Jews,
and they survive on the death and destruction of their
own civilian populations. Why do you think Hamas, Why do
(16:15):
you think the leadership of Hamas doesn't live in Gaza City?
Why do you think the leadership of Hamas lives, you know,
on the other side of the river. They live in
Cutter They live nicely, safely, richly, ensconced in Connor. And
(16:35):
the Israelis know that, and that's why they Well, let's
send a few jets over and love a few bombs
on their headquarters and see what happens. You have when
you think about the history. How can you wonder the
(16:55):
Israel or how can you imagine Israel would ever capitulate
to the demand for its own annihilation? Is there just
that one path forward equiescence two steaks. No, there's one
simple solution. The moss must go. It's all must go.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
At the beginning of the Charlie Kirk Memorial service, I
saw Elon Musk sitting all by himself in a section.
I texted a few friends saying, I wonder if Elon
and Donald Trump will make up because of Charlie Kirk. Well,
indeed they did. It is very telling things that happen
(17:43):
when someone dies. Some people make up and for other people,
families break apart.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, I'm gonna say it. I don't know whether that
was genuine or not. I think I'm sure that Musk
wanted to be seen, and I'm sure that Trump obviously
had to tell Secret Service, Hey, go down and get
Elon and bring him up here. But was it more
(18:17):
than a photo op?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Have either of them come out and said, yep, we're
best buddies again.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, So I'm reserving the fact they shook hands and
sat together for a while doesn't surprise me. But if
it goes beyond that, I will be surprised. Not because
I think they have a dislike for each other. I
think that Elon got his fingers burned in politics. And
(18:45):
you look at the compensation package that the Tesla Board
of Directors has offered him. Yeah, you might want to
stay in Texas and build cars and shoot off rocket
ships and do stuff like that and stay away from DC.
We'll see, I mean, I don't know, we'll see anyway.
So back to this Palestinian state. So our allies declare that,
(19:09):
you know, there is a state of Palestine. They recognize
the pretend state. I'm not quite sure what it means,
except they're capitulating to.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
The left wing faction of their.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Political parties, and to put up bluntly and a little harsher,
they're capitulating to Hamas because Hamas sees that and they see, oh,
we're further isolating Israel. Israel is rightfully so determined to
(19:43):
eliminate their enemies, and I think it's I think it's
morally justified, it's legally justified, it's militarily justified. And the
fact that they use civilians to hide behind, well, that's
a choice that they made and the IDF does everything
(20:07):
they possibly can to minimize that. But when you're involved
in urban warfare, bad things are going to happen, and
we have to accept that bad things are going to happen.
Go back to that first Palestine Palestine National Charter just
(20:27):
before the Sixth Day War, they renounced all their claims
to the West Bank and Gaza. They wanted the entire
state of Israel and that has never changed, never wavered.
It is the eradication of the Jewish state which is
the objective. And by recognizing a so called pudity fake
state of Palestine, the UK, France, Canada and Australia have
(20:55):
all capitulated to a terrorist organization that admitted atrocities in
October seven, two years ago.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
And have strengthened them in so doing.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
The people, well, before I get to the Jews, if
there were a Palestinian government, it would have to accept
Israel's right to live in peace and security. And if
you're involved in negotiations, that's a non starter for them.
They'll live, they'll prevaricate, they'll be wishy washy, they'll try
(21:34):
to convince you otherwise, but at their heart they hamas fatal.
They will never let go. They have to renounce terrorism.
They simply cannot do that. That is the very nature
of them. They are terrorists. In addition to I mean
just getting to the nitty gritty, there needs to be
a viable reconstruction plan that benefits the people that.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Live in the West man or that live in God's in.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Particular, not that benefits the kleptocracy of those leaders that
live in those areas, and absent any or all of
those things, Israel cannot and should not agree to one
single thing.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
The people of Israel survive far greater predations than the
weak performative gestures that the anti Semites in those Western
civilized countries are now reigning. But here's one lesson that
I think is clear. There can be only one response
to the people who wish you ill, who wish you vaporized,
who wish you eliminated from the face of the earth,
(22:39):
strength will in victory. Anything else is just an empty gesture.
None of these people in those countries are doing anything
they'll help so called Palestinians. In fact, I would argue
(23:00):
it's not even meant to help the Palestinians. It's meant
really to deal with their own internal political problems that
every single one of those countries have. We have it
in this country too, but we haven't capitulated to it.
In fact, we've had universities professors fired for allowing that
kind of anti semitism on their campus. We've told our
State Department has told people, you want to come to
(23:22):
this country and you're anti Semitic and you call for terrorism,
you advocate terrorism, you advocate the demise, the eradication of
the Jews. Way, you're not going to get a visa.
We don't want you here. And I think that's morally
and legally the right thing to do. All those countries
(23:44):
that have made this announcement yesterday, they've all got left,
and they have, in most cases, very large Muslim populations
that are attacking Israel. We cannot sugarcoat that they have
large population of these migrant asylum seekers, illegal aliens we
(24:04):
call them here, migrant asylum seekers who are taking over
and destroying their own those countries cultures, and what are
these leaders doing. They're kissing their feet, they're capitulating to them.
So the only effect of recognizing a Palestinian state is
(24:24):
actually striking at Israel itself. And remember it doesn't help again,
this soul colored Palestinians. It doesn't help those people living
in Gaza, the West Bank, it doesn't help them at all.
It's it's very striking that it's not just the timing
after October seventh, it's the lack of condition of conditionality.
(24:47):
To be fair to the Belgians, for example, they said, well,
we're not going to do this until there's a ceasefire
and every hostage has been released. Now, personally, I don't
think that's enough, but that's certainly more than what these
other four countries have done. England, France, Australia, Canada have
put no conditions whatsoever. They haven't said anything about the hostages.
(25:09):
What they have said, which is utterly ludicrous. We're doing
this because we have promises from mockmood of Boss, the
Palestinian president. Really until he flew a plane into the
North Tower of the South Tower, it would be the
World Trade Center. I had all these promises from what
(25:34):
was his name, I'll do the leader of the nine
eleven group. He made all sorts of promises. Yeah, claike
ksn claik shake. Muhammed makes all sorts of promises. Why
because he went out, he went out of a GYPMO.
They're meaningless, absolutely meaningless, and so is any promise from
a boss. And on the basis of those promises, we're
(26:00):
supposed to go forward and recognize a Palestinian state. Those
countries really are in some kind of denial.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
It's some kind of.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Stupidity, and it's all theater. Look at look at President
Macron for example, and look at look at how he
announces it. Now, why didn't he say I today recognize
a Palestinian state and instead say I'm going to do
this in late September and New York the General Assembly,
(26:29):
or I go even further, I'm going to do this
when Hamas surrenders and lays down its arms. You know,
you know why it didn't because it's all theater, it's
all performative, and the impact within the United Nations system
itself is zero. Do you know that Palestine is already
(26:52):
a non member observer state. Now it can't be a
member state because we're going to veto that detail that
in the Security Council and we can talk about the
political impact, the impact on reputation, but the international legal impact.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Is going to be ziltz. Nothing.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Nothing's going to happen, can or do people and they
are argue that somehow this is a one step, this
is the first baby step to a two state solution.
My answer is no, and the reason is well, it's
not going to work. It's not going to satisfy Palastinian nationalism.
People will say, well, well, you see, Palestinians demand a
(27:31):
state and they have a right to a state. Well
go back to that too, and once they have a state,
there will be peace. I don't believe that for one second,
not one second. You've got to recognize who you are
dealing with. Do I feel sorry for the people in Gaza?
I absolutely do to a degree. And I only say
to a degree because it's easy for me to sit
(27:53):
safely in the studio and talk about how I would
never allow some terrorist organization to take over my country
and then put my wife, or my children or my
family out there as as targets for the enemy. But
that's what they've done. They've had a lot, They've allowed
(28:14):
Hamas to literally take over their country, to take over
the and I think it was five when they turned
over the Gaza strip, and I knew at the time
that over time, a time period I didn't know how
long we'd reached this point, and here we are.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Michael.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
We cannot have a discussion about the climate crisis unless
we include a discussion about the geoengineering warfare that is
going on. I am not denying the other impacts that
humans have caused in this climate, but we need to
discuss the geoengineering that is going on.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Period back to Palestine. So what would be a next step, Well,
the war's got to end. It's got to end, that's
the first thing. You're not going to end this kind
(29:19):
of paroxysm of hatred of Israel or anti Israeli activity
while the war is on, because well Al Jazeera, the
Muslim populations all over the world, a lot of liberal,
left leaning politicians and so called Western civilization countries respond
actually just to one thing they respond is to Israeli's
(29:40):
committing acts of violence. That is to say, war against
the Arabs, against Palestinians. That excites the opposition.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
So the war's going to have to end. The only
way for the war to end.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Is for Natanya Hudna's war cabinet to eliminate Hamas and
then it's going to take a lot of reconstruction she's
going to take you know, the day after kind of concept.
So the war either ends with a deal in which
the hostages are released, Hamas is relegated back to Cutter
(30:13):
or Jordan or wherever they can send them, or they're
just eliminated. It ends with an Israeli conquest. There were
moments over the past twelve months when I thought it
looked like a deal was going to bring an end
to it, But I sincerely do not believe that Hamas
(30:35):
wants to end the war. Think about you know, in
this country, we often talked about how easy it is
for members of Congress or a president to send their
children off to war, because well, their children don't do it.
It's just everybody else's kids have to go fight the war.
Remember that trope that goes around all the time. Hamas
(31:00):
actually practices that nobody in their immediate family, nobody in
their extended family's in danger. They're all living off their
billions that they have scooped off the top of all
the aid that's been sent and living comfortably in Sconced
while they were comfortably in Sconced until Israel said, ah,
we've had enough of that too, So they have nothing
(31:23):
at risk. They have no motivation whatsoever. In fact, their
motivation may be if the war ends, then you know,
how do we then corruptly start skimming off all of
the aid that's going to come in from the reconstruction.
So I I think Hamas is somehow convinced. And what
(31:47):
worries me is they could could be right about this
that if they just keep dragging this out, the tide
as it does, ever so slightly once in a while
turn against Israel because you know, we hear all the
claims and charges of genocide and everything else there was
(32:08):
there was at one point, there was never one occasion
where the Israelis rejected a deal that hamasen agreed to.
Well false statements. The Israelis accepted the deals, Hamas turned
them down. They'd offer a deal, Israel tod say okay,
then Hamas to say, oh never mind, I'm not going
to do it. So this thing that happened yesterday, when
(32:33):
those four countries declared that there was a state of Palestine,
my head exploded.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
There is no such thing
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