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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Pull on, Miguel, I don't know if you heard the
breaking news about the domestic terror attack on the Dallas
Ice facility. Just wondered what your take is, wondered if
you thought this might be one of the white nationalist
terror cells that the Biden DOJ kept warning us about.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
That's a great lesson about radio audiences. When was that left?
Can you tell what time that was left? Dragon, I'd
have to go back and double check on that one.
Do you think it was before or after I talked
about Dallas.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
I am not sure about that, to be quite honest
with you, I know it was left around that time.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, we talked about Dallas at the top of the
last hour. There were three news things that we covered.
Do you remember what those were? Now? We covered Dallas,
the airlines, and something else better Denver? Huh do better Denver? Yeah,
do better Denver. We talked about, uh, three news stories

(01:01):
very quickly at the top of the last hour, and
Dallas was one of those. When when Kamala Harris, you're
pissed off about Jimmy Kimmel, Well, now's your turn in
the nine o'clock hour to get pissed off about Kamala
Harris when when she sat across from Joy bayharr on

(01:22):
The View, it revealed more than just political spin. Now,
Bayharrn insisted that Kamala's struggles on the campaign trail were
largely about racism and sexism, not her performance, not her
word salads, nothing like that. It well, it it went

(01:48):
like this.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Un included. And President Biden also think that a lot
of it is about racism and sexism, and those are
the reasons that you really lost, not because of the
time thing. What do you say to that? Do you
think this country will ever elect a woman president in
my lifetime?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Probably not.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
I beg to differ.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
I believe that we will, and listen, you know this,
and I've been honored to be on this show many
times and talk with this esteemed group. Every office I've held,
I've been the first, usually the first woman, and then
often the first woman.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
And the first person of color.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
The only time, actually I was the second, when I
was the second black woman ever elected to the United
States Senate. And it's hundreds of year's history, so I'm
not naive.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Race and gender.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
Do play a factor in some people's minds about how
they vote, But my history tells me because I have
been the first in all those that people ultimately want
to know that this is the best person to do
the job, and that's their focus. And that's how I've
always and I've never run as a woman or as a.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Person of color. I run it because I believe I'm
the best to do the job.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Because I'm the best to do the job. It's kind
of funny she claims that she was every time I've
been elected, I was always the first. Isn't that the
same as the claim that the pencil and fire.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
Lie about the sitting vice president then takes up the
mantle running against a former president of the United States
who have been running for ten years, with one hundred
and seven days.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
To go, it's unprecedented.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
It was the closest presidential election in the twenty first century,
and as history writes about that election, I felt very
strongly that I wanted to make sure my voice was
present and how that election is discussed and covered. It's
part of American history, and I wanted to the closest.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, I like how she call it.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
I had that of the twenty first century, of the
twenty first anything after two thousand and one wasn't there
a very extremely close election two thousands.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, there was, if I had to go to them
all the way to the US Supreme Court. Yes, decided
by nine justices. Actually not decided by nine justices. Technically,
they just said you got to stop counting. Your state
rules say you gotta stop counting. You got to stop counting.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
But good to note it's the closest one in the
past twenty four years.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Okay, whew, I and I wouldn't even play. I mean, first,
Trump won. He's the first Republican in my lifetime I think,
to have won the popular vote. He won all the
swing states. The margin in electoral college wasn't exactly a landslide,
but it wasn't closed. So I don't get that now.

(04:58):
Her answer about race and sexism might sound polished, but
it doesn't hold up to scrutiny, just like her claim
about the closest selection in the twenty first century doesn't
hold up to scrutiny. She has built her career, her
entire career, on identity politics. She was polling below four

(05:19):
percent in the primaries back in twenty nineteen. That was
a campaign that was so weak that it collapsed and
she quit before one single vote was cast. Yet, when
Joe Biden pledged to select a woman as his running mate,
the Democrat base and the cabal the media made it

(05:41):
clear that race and gender would be the central factors
in the choice, and at some point Biden said, yes,
not only a woman, but I want to pick the
first black woman, the first woman of color. You see,
you have to say woman of color because she's not
really the first black. She's the first well South Asian
and black person. Okay, we'll get that out of the way.

(06:02):
Identity politics is so difficult to to follow now. Kama
Harris ultimately benefited from that push for representation that revived
her candidacy, not because she was leading in the primaries,
but because she fit the identity politics and the historical

(06:23):
profile that Democrats wanted to showcase. She wasn't chosen for merits.
She wasn't chosen for her skills, She wasn't chosen for
her speaking ability. She wasn't even chosen for her policy positions.
Can you tell me what her policy positions were? Without
Biden's pledge, Harris would not be the vice would not
have been the vice president. She didn't get propelled to

(06:45):
the ticket because she outperformed the competition because she quit
before the competition really even started. She was propelled into
that position because the Democrat Party wanted to showcase there. Well,
they would say representation. I would say identity politics. Identity
was wielded as power. And that's just the truth. And

(07:08):
this is what makes her comments on the view so
stinking hollow. She can't run on her race and gender
when it benefits her and then just dismiss questions about
competence by claiming she never used identity in the first place. Voters,
whether you vote for her or against her, or not

(07:29):
for her, either way, voters remember the reality. They saw
a campaign during those one hundred and seven days that
leaned heavily on being the first, the first woman, the
first black woman, the first South Asian woman, without ever
answering the more pressing question first in what vision for America?

(07:50):
First in what are you going to do differently? Because
the economy was in the crapper, we were still reeling
from inflation, we had all these we you know, they
talked about how Trump's an embarrassment on the world stage.
Did you see Biden on the world stage, the times

(08:11):
that he could get up and off the stage without
falling down. Did you see that it is truly a
tired trope? Refrain from the Democrats that every failed candidate
they ever put up is the victim of racism or
sexism or some combination of both. And it's beginning to

(08:31):
wear thin. It's it's over, guys, stop it. Hillary Clinton
blamed misogyny in twenty sixteen. Stacy Abrams has repeated, well,
first of all, she's in election denier because she continues
to claim that she was actually elected, but she continually
repeatedly blames voter suppression for her loss as governor. Now

(08:55):
Joey Bayhart and Biden himself are floating racismism is the
reason that Harris couldn't break through nationally. So at some
point you got to ask the question, why can't Democrat
leaders admit when a candidate simply ran a really lousy,
sucky campaign her twenty twenty run. Twenty twenty run, not

(09:20):
twenty twenty four, her twenty twenty run. Her twenty twenty
campaign failed not because we are an irredeemably bigoted nation,
but because she never gave a clear or compelling reason
to vote for her, to support her. Her positions were
constantly shifting left, word on criminal justice, back toward the

(09:42):
middle of healthcare, left to Grant Green, left on the
Green New Deal. She couldn't, she cannot, and I don't
think to this day if she and Doug are sitting
alone cooking her pot roast like she likes to talk about,
could she really define herself and could she defy herself
in a way that gets noticed. That's not prejudice, that's politics.

(10:08):
I know that people vote against candidates, but to vote
against the candidate, you've got to find somebody over here
that even if you have to hold your nose, you're
willing to vote for, because otherwise you'll just stay home,
you just won't vote. That's politics. Now, what makes what

(10:32):
makes this cycle especially insulting is the implicit message that
says to the electorate, Because if voters reject a candidate
of color, or they reject a female candidate, Democrats are
probably always going to suggest, well, it's because you're a racist,
you're a misogynist, you've got some sort of bias. Well
what does that do to a voter that says you

(10:53):
don't have your own agency, you don't have your own
self will you can't make up your own mind. It
tells them that their decisions aren't thought, they're not principal,
they're just hateful. You're just hateful. And I think that
just sums up the entire Democrat Party apparatus, everything from
their big donors to their small donors and everything in between,
all of the NGOs, all of the elected officials at

(11:14):
the state and federal level. They just operate from a
position of hatred. And then if you're a clear thinking
member of the Democrat Party, which may be an oxymoron,
but if you're a clear thinking member of the Democrat
Party and you're trying to analyze and do some self

(11:35):
reflection about why you fail to connect, you can never
do that because they always fall back on the same stick.
And the irony is really thick in this case because
Harris's defenders weaponize race and gender as a shield against criticism.
Yet Harris herself has never ever hesitated to display her

(12:00):
identity as the credential that's necessary to get elected when
that's convenient. She used that all the way from her
first appointments in California by William Brown, all the way
to her first elections in California. When it doesn't work,

(12:22):
then she turns around and says it was never about
race or gender at all. That is only not only disingenuous,
it is corrosive, and it's also a sign of how
imploding the Democrat Party is now. Black conservatives have been
sounding that alarm for years. Black conservatives understand that truck
that tying their worth to identity politics doesn't elevate them.

(12:46):
It reduces them. It reduces the black experience just a
talking point. It reduces the female experience to a checkbox
in every election outcome to some sort of morality play
about prejudic this one of the most famous and influential

(13:06):
Black individuals in this country, Booker T. Washington, warned against
leaning on grievance instead of focusing on competence. Shelby Steels
written powerfully about how white guilt sustains that very cycle.
I refuse to engage in the white guilt. I refuse
to engage in the whole white privilege thing. Yeah, Democrats

(13:27):
remains stuck in that because what does it do. It
gives them a convenient excuse for failure, and unfortunately, for
an uninformed kind of stupid electric sometimes it gives them
a convenient tool to gain power. So here's Kamala Harris
wonning it both ways. Oh, celebrate me for breaking barriers,
but excuse that for, you know, excuse my failures by

(13:51):
blaming those barriers that she says she keeps breaking. She's
a classic example of how And I think this is
where Trump fits in, not perfectly, but he fits in
leadership because leadership requires something deeper. He requires being judged

(14:13):
on results, not optics. Now, Trump's really good at playing
the optics game. If you don't think so, you go
back and watch that memorial service with him and Erica
Kirk on the stage. That was amazing political optics, amazingly produced.
But what's Trump always talking about? Well, we were a
dead nation and there were the hottest nation. We've whipped this,

(14:36):
we've done this, We've accomplished X, Y, and Z. It's
always about the metrics. Now, he may always be or
may not always be precise about the metrics, but he
uses metrics to convince you and to show you that
he is a leader, that he's doing things. What I

(14:59):
don't want is a another lecture that they're the Democrats.
Skepticism of weak candidate is somehow rooted in prejudice it's
the race card. It's just using the race card in
a different format. It's old, it's tired, and it's insulting it.
In fact, it tells black people that the very people

(15:21):
she claims to represent, that their only role, their only
purpose is to cheer on her color, not to question
her record. That's manipulation, not empowerment. And I think voters
are wise to it. And I think that's what's being seen.
You know, it's interesting that CNN yesterday puts up you know,

(15:47):
the guy that jumps around about poll numbers. He's always
flailing his arms and jumping around and bouncing around, and
his voice gets real excited about stuff. He was doing
that yesterday during this program about Kamala Hills approval ratings,
which are just on a downward slide, like a slide
on a playground, just boom right into the dirt. Well, Shapiro,

(16:11):
Ignusome and the others are beginning to rise. And I
think there is a direct causation and correlation between this
book tour and her suddenly coming back out and using
all of the word salad crap that she does, and
voters are looking at that and going, huh, that's that

(16:32):
is what I thought it was, you know, doing a book.
I get it. She wants to make some money and
she wants to try to excuse, you know, her loss.
So that's the real purpose of the book tour. But
I think she made a mistake because there was that
time between the election and then this book tour, when

(16:56):
the book was finally published available for purchase, that we
didn't think about Kamala Harris. Oh, she had pop up
every once in a while when people talk about, you know,
who are the Democrats going to run? Who's the leader
of the Democrat Party right now? You know, is it Shapiro,
is it Gavin Newsom, is it Kamala Harris? I mean
she had pop up a little bit, but we we

(17:17):
didn't have soundbites to play, We didn't have her words,
We didn't have that. You know, I'm going to answer
the question, you know when I think about it in
that slow kind of hesitating, altering lee way of answering

(17:37):
a question. Just answer the question. We all hear that.
Now we hear it again, and we're like tuning it out. No,
we don't want it. We don't want that. Does she
believe she's the best person to do the job then
she had to prove it on the merits. Stop with
the racism and the sexism. Stop reducing American voters to

(17:58):
bicketts for simply Oh, I see what I see, and
I don't like. Because we deserve leaders to have vision.

Speaker 6 (18:08):
And things, Michael, no one ever wants to admit they're
a bad candidate. And with Donald Trump in the mix,
you can always claim the reason I didn't win is
because it was rigged. Unfortunately, Donald Trump left the window
open for It's never my fault, it's always somebody else's fault.

(18:31):
So you know, that's the way it's going to be
in American politics. If I don't win, it's rigged.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Rigged, racist, sexist everything. It's never the candidate. It's always
somebody else's fault. Always, just like it, Just like here,
I come in here, I do a flawless program, and
you're the one that screws it up everything talking to them, right,
not me? They well them too, Yeah, them those toilve

(19:00):
out there, right, and you it's their fault. Yeah. Yeah.
By the way, you hear all the noise as they're
trying to fix. Should we tell almost going on?

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah, we're currently week six of our bathroom remodel here
up on the fourth floor of the iHeartMedia complex.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
And we got an email yesterday, uh huh that said
we've discovered the word was either serious or significant. It
was an S word. I'm not sure which a serious
or significant drainage problem, which has now brought the sixth
week remodeling.

Speaker 7 (19:34):
Just remodeling, not new pipes, new tile, just yeah, new tile,
not even new divide, not not even change, not even
new dividers between the toilets.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Just nothing has been moved. Yeah, right, just take out
the old toilets, the old urinals, and the old sinks.
Now they did rebuild the the countertop, countertop, but that's
still just the wood framing, the right anything on that.
And I did check the women's and it's not it's

(20:05):
not any different than the men's.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Real well, I mean, now they're the significant plumbing problem
three and inches problem is that's affecting the third floor now,
so the third floor women's side doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
So now women have to go to the first floor. Yeah,
Kelly's really upset about that. Who is Kelly? Who cares?
Who cares? She just gave you an e give me
the evil I every single day so I'm just I'm
used to it. But I was going to be upset
because I misread the email last night and I thought

(20:39):
it was that they were all out of commission and
that because I was thinking, now the entire building has
to go to the first floor. That'll be interesting, like
the line like you know at a at a football
game or any other event concert, and you know, because
women have to have their own stall, so you know,
there's always a line like for my outside a women's restroom,

(21:01):
and the manners like yeah, I get in, whizz, get
out of there. You know, boom boom. Can use the sink.
It's fine, Yeah, just use the sink. Use there's a
drain on the floor right there, I can use that.
So that's just the construction update six weeks.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
However, it's currently at six weeks. We have no idea
as to win everything will be done.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
And in fact, the email even said I cannot give
you an estimated a completion date. Now we have to,
you know, to be fair. Something did get fixed. It's true,
well turned on, turned on or repaired or maybe both,
maybe both. Right, we can now use our badges on

(21:45):
the uh North North stairwell, fourth floor. Yeah, fourth floor
to get in well northeast stairwell to get back onto
the fourth floor. Yet people continue to prop it open
because they either forget their key, card or something.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Well, thank goodness, there's a sign now on that door
that reads card reader working with a little.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Somebody.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Somebody was very kind to write on their card reader working.
When did you do that about an hour ago? Okay,
I mean I noticed it about an hour ago.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Oh, you noticed it about an hour ago when you
taped it up there.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
I didn't be a complete ass and move the brick.
So it's still propped open. So if somebody went down
there without their badge thinking it would still be propped open.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Right, it's still, but it no longer needs to be
speaking the brick. Have you looked at the brick? So
called brick? What is that? I don't know. It looks
like a concrete boob. That's what it looked like to me.
Its shaped just like a concrete boob. I probably found

(22:56):
it on the third floor. I should find Kathy Lee
and ask her are you missing a boob? Is this
yours she lose? Did you lose a boob somewhere?

Speaker 3 (23:07):
They have done molds of I'm not sure of her,
but they have had They did like the Denver's Biggots
Biggest butt competition and they had on their wall in
the studio of the number one biggest but mold.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah who won that? Oh, I don't know it was
there exactly. Yeah, it wasn't Kathy Lee because she's too tiny.
You Kathy's is pretty linear. Oh is that the Is
that the signal for a flat butt? Yeah? Yeah, is
that what that? It was? Dragon has given me nd
signals to describe buttocks straight down. The fact that the

(23:48):
fact that Dragon's even giving me signals and we're even
talking about Kathy Lee's buttocks is probably you know that
there is this in the public interest.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
She talks about it constantly. Also, so it's I consider
this fair game. I was on that show for ten years.
This is the Tony fair Game.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Okay, well, I'm just slightly uncomfortable talking about Kathley's buttocks.
But if but if you know all about them, and
you and Kathy and Rick have talked about their butt dogs,
well then I guess why not on the fourth floor.
We mean to culturally enlighten the fourth floor a little bit.
The legislature of North Caro but there's no segue for

(24:24):
this whatsoever. No, but this is what I wanted to
talk about. Next the legislature in North Carolina, and I'm
glad they did it, but it bugs me. They've approved
a criminal justice reform bill. It's called IRENA's Law. That's
the woman and if this was done a memory of
Irena Zurutska, the she's the twenty three year old Ukrainian

(24:47):
refugee that was Oh I think about that video. It
just makes me sick. That was killed back in August
while riding the Charlotte light rail train. The bill, well,
finally titans bail rules and could restart executions in North Carolina.

(25:07):
It's sitting on the Democrat Governor Josh Stein's desk waiting
to see if he's going to sign it or veto it.
The reason I am happy yet pissed off about this
bill is the suspect in that killing had over a
dozen prior arrests, but was released without bonding a misdemeanor charge.

(25:31):
He has been diagnosed with schizophrena schizophrenia, at least according
to his mother. He's facing first degree murder and federal charges,
both caring potentially carrying the death penalty, and you know what,
the surveillance girl wha he says, I got that white girl.
During the debate a state rapping, a state rep in
North Carolina criticized the lacks bail practices. She said, this

(25:56):
heinous act was preventable, which it was. When when we
have magistrates who are asleep at the wheel like this
one that obviously was, then we've got to make a change.
So the bill eliminates cashless bail for a lot of offenses,
and it limits judicial discretion in pre trial releases. It
seeks to resume executions in North Carolina that have been

(26:19):
on pause in two thousand and six. And there's a
state senator down there that's introduced a bill to explore
alternate execution methods like firing squads, electrocution, lethal injection, whatever.
You know. I guess they get to choose. I don't know.
But here's what irritates me. Why do we know we

(26:40):
know in every state in this union, the cashless bail
is an effing disaster and has resulted directly in the
murder of innocent individuals. And we've noticed since before she
was murdered on that train, we've talked about it before

(27:00):
that murder occurred. Oh well, now that it's happened, maybe
we should do something. State legislatures are virtually worthless, virtually worthless.
So I've watched this online. Speaking of worthless, I've watched
particularly hiccken Looper Bennett's try and stay away from So

(27:21):
Senator Hickenlooper is complaining because the Colorado legislature increased funding
for medicaid, because, of course, the Democrats passed the bill
offering states a bunch of money to expand medicaid. So
we ran after that money. The Democrats did, ran after
that money, expanded medicaid without thinking about, oh, when that

(27:44):
money runs dry, because the money always runs dry at
some point, or it always gets cut back. Bill Clinton is,
I'm going to put ten thousand cops on the street. Yeah,
for how long, Well, until you know, I leave office,
or until Congress doesn't appropriate the money anymore. So they
rely on that money from the FEDS to hire ten

(28:06):
thousand cops or a hundred thousand cops, whatever it was,
and then the money dries up, and then cops police
departments are stuck holding holding the bill. We can't pay
your salary because we use the money we got from
the fans to pay for something else. Well, the same
with Colorado and medicaid. So Medicaid gets slashed a little bit,
and now they're all upset because they use that money
to fill their budget hole and now they don't have

(28:27):
the money for medicaid. I mean, it's the shell game,
absolute shell game. It's all Democrats know to do. Huh,
let me rephrase that. It's all Democrats and a lot
of Republicans know to do is just play a shell game.

Speaker 8 (28:42):
Hey about the whole Pete Booty Judge Kamala Harris' issue.
The thing was that Kamala didn't say that he wasn't
her VP choice because he was gay. What she said
was he was gay, so he couldn't be her VP choice.
You see, you just put those salad tongues in there,

(29:05):
stirred up a little bit, and it says whatever you
wanted to say.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
He didn't choose Pete Budajig not because he was gay,
but that because he was gay that made people uncomfortable.
Because once again it fits in with my point about
she always goes back to identity politics and then blames
voters biases and prejudices for her for her own personal

(29:32):
failings and failings. Oh yeah, no, I never remember this.
We played a sound bite yesterday in which Rachel Maddow
in which he asked her which Rachel Maddow asked, Kamala Harris,
now about this, you not about you not choosing Pete
Boudajig because he was gay, And she leans back and says, oh, no,

(29:54):
I didn't say that, and then the word salad starts
and it really was the way I interpreted it was,
I didn't pick I did not. I did not pick
him because he was gay. The fact that he was
gay made it complicated and uncomfortable. Not for me, no,
not for me, but for those voters. It's unbelievable. So

(30:18):
you think that what goes on here in terms of
letting criminals go is just us. A man that attacked
a protester for burning the Quran outside of the Turkish
consulate in London got a suspended sentence instead of prison.
Now maybe that's legitimate or not, but doesn't it seem

(30:40):
to me that there's a two tier justices in the
United Kingdom because they're handing out draconian prison sentences to
people who simply say things on social media that offends
other people insanity, utter insanity, but I guess I should
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