9-26-25 - 8am - Ice Detainee Deaths and Government Shutdown

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Michael, I don't know why everybody is like seriously
sucking on the hopium pipe because nothing, nothing, nothing is
going to happen to any of these criminals in DC.
Absolutely nothing, and it is absolutely disgusting. Thank you, have
a good weekend.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
The hopium is that what she called it? Hopium?

Speaker 3 (00:22):
I believe that's what she said.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, well I took a dose of opium today. Uh,
at least we.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
Got an indictment. Come on, give give me that. We
got the indictment. Now they just got it, you know. Oh,
let's see CNN call me vows to fight back against
federal indictment. Well, no, I just got indicted for something.
I think I'll just roll over.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Yeah right, yeah, before I let me just tell you
that it's the end of the world as we know
it on well wamite, I got the right day, right,
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Tuesday, today's Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
I know the end of the world that we know
it is Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
This upcoming Tuesday is coming Tuesday. Yeah, the end of
the fiscal year. Then we'll run out of money and
will go broke and shut down. But before we get
to that, I want to turn the program over to
the Red Beard, mister producer, he has some news for you. Typically,

(01:36):
I don't listen to the situation with Michael Brown, even
though I'm the producer of the show, and then by
many who say that's the real talent of the show.
I just don't listen. I just I just don't. But
now today I actually had an excuse to not listen
because a text message came in that really piqued my
interest and I really wanted to look into it. Text

(01:58):
message from goober number forty three forty four. I saw
a post on the socials that point out so far
the anti ice crowd have killed more illegals than Ice.
I was like, well, that's a fairly bold statement. Let's
dive into that a little bit.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
So I did.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
And then and I know he has been because one
he's already cross examined me about some of the numbers.
But also every time I had would you know, because
when I look up at the clock to see where
I am in the segment, my eyes kind of glance
into the room back there, and he's had his head
buried in his computer.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
As he normally does because he doesn't listen.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Anyway, It's a different kind of yeah, a different kind
of it was well for him, it's porn because it's numbers.
So this is straight from ICE dot gov slash detain
slash Detainees Deaths Reportings. What's that website again, Ice dot
gov slash detain slash Detainee death Reporting. So they keep

(03:04):
track of this stuff.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
And thank goodness they do, right.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
So first off, let's go back to the recent shooting.
Three people were shot. Three detainees were shot. One is dead,
the other two are still in critical condition from what
I can understand from CNN. So this is, you know,
if you want to take the most conservative side on
those those numbers, one dead, two injured detainees. Now that's

(03:34):
that's that's three shot by an anti ice person. One dead.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Now in.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Five I did find that there were thirteen deaths detainee
deaths in ice facilities or in ice custody. I can
go over them one by one, but suffice it to say.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
This one.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
A thirty two year old male upper respiratory died of
upper respiratory complications who has a history of COVID many
many times. Then there was a thirty two year old
male hung himself in the shower. A fifty five year
old male had a brain bleed. Seventy five year old
male had a heart attack, Forty nine year old male

(04:22):
found unresponsive, so this could be you know, a little
asterisk could be but has a history of malnutrition and
refusing medications and food. Then there was a forty five
year old male hung himself. Sixty eight year old male
asterisk unresponsive in transport, but was arrested on drug charges,

(04:46):
so could could be. Really a forty four year old
female the only female on the list found unresponsive, has
a history of hypertension and refusing medicaid. And fifty five
year old male has a dementia and had respiratory distress.

(05:10):
Twenty seven year old male hung himself, Forty four year
old male had a stroke, Forty five year old male
complications of tuberculosis. Uh did to do last one here
on the list. Twenty nine year old male respiratory complications,
also has a history of psychosis.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
So those are all the date.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Detainees in twenty twenty five in.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Twenty twenty five that have died of or died in
ice custody. Correct, I didn't hear anything, so unresponsive found unresponsive.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Those can be kind of questionable.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
Questionable because Oh he's not responding. Guys, let's school finish
our ham sandwiches and come back in a minute, right, yeah, okay,
so but I doubt it could be. All right, The
rest seem like natural causes suicide, drug abuse, history, hypertensions.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Strokes, past, medical histories, you know, things, things of that nature. Right,
So we have a total how many thirteen in twenty five?

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Okay? All right? All right?

Speaker 3 (06:17):
But the anti ice guy shot three, one dead, two
in critical condition. So who has killed more detainees than theater?

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Yes, Now let's go a little further into the numbers.
Because you asked me a question and I was totally
off of this. Oh yeah, you asked.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Me about their or their home, their country of ora
of origin.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
And I guessed somewhere between fifty and sixty percent, fifty
percent to a third, you know, half to a third.
We're probably Mexican from Mexico. I was completely completely wrong.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
On I'll run down the list here, Mexico, China, Vietnam, Cuba, Canada, Mexico, Mexico, Haiti, Vietnam, Columbia, Ukraine, Ethiopia, Honduras.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
So we have and the age groups I heard twenty
two or twenty three.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
And twenty seven to sixty eight.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah, and we had male and female, albeit only one
female one female.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, yeah, all right.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
So another narrative that dispelled on the situation with Michael
Brown Curcy of producer.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Ragen redbeerd Now, arguably the year two year numbers of
detainee deaths are a lot higher this year than in
previous years. But this is really the first year so
far that they've really gone after and really gone after
the illegal criminals that are here. So there's correlation for that.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Quar, did you find any evidence that in the asked
that ICE has shot and killed a Now we're talking
about detainees, so they're already correct.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, so they're already in custody. I tried to find.
I tried to search that kind of thing is to
you know, like a police officer shooting and killing somebody
on the street for a confrontation. I tried to search that.
I did a number of different phraseologies when trying to say,
you know, ICE agent kills or ICE agent shoots there's

(08:29):
something along those kind of lines. The only thing that
continuously pops up, and because it's in the news now
is the ICE facility shooting. So I had to go
like the third or fourth page of Google, and I
still really can't find anything about Ice agent shoot and kills.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
No, there you go, any other questions for the producer?

Speaker 3 (08:52):
So thirteen oh wait, zero zero to three, zero to three, yeah, yeah, yeah,
actually zero thirteen no no, well these guys, that's right,
but actually killed, right, But so zero one with an
aspect of two still in critical condition, yes.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
But thirteen total for the year, none.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Of which none of which were caused now by an
Ice agent. This guy, this terrain shooter, caused at least one,
possibly two more.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
She he was aiming, and he was aiming for Ice agents,
not the beauty of that's horrible to say. That's the
amazing thing about it, that he's aiming for them. Good grief,
all right. So anyway, it's the end of the world
next Tuesday, the end of the fiscal year, and in
accordance with that coming up, there's been a leak that's

(09:55):
caused all the lefties heads to start exploding all up
and down these coasts, the West Coast, the fruited plane everywhere.
One of the cabal's mouthpieces for the Democrat Party, Politico
reported this week that the White House has notified cabinet
officials to make plans to execute I just wouldn't let

(10:22):
the word execute hang there for a moment, because, considering
what we just talked about, I came across the word executing, thought, well,
let's just let that hang. Have they've notified the cabinet
officials to make plans to execute mass firings of bureaucrats
should Congressional Democrats force a government shut down, Mike Davis

(10:48):
uh tweeted out, for decades, Democrats have used government shut
downs to extort more wasteful government spending for their left
wing allies. Trump's not playing that game anymore. When a
government shut down, every are gonna get fired. Reporting on that,
apparently intentionally of that memos into department heads from the

(11:09):
White House, Politico says the firings would focus on employees
who work for programs that are not legally required to continue.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
If the programs are non essential and can.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Just shut be down willy nilly whenever one party or
the other forces a partial closing of the government, doesn't
it ask yourself, doesn't it make sense that the employees
are non essential too? Of course it does if the
program's non essential, then the employees working in the non
essential program are not essential. But here's an excerpt from

(11:44):
the political story. OMB moved to permanently reduce the government
workforce if there's a shutdown, outlining a memo shared with
Politico ahead of release to agencies tonight. This was on Wednesday.
Escalates these escalates the stakes of a politic potential shutdown
next week. In the memo, OMB told agencies to identify programs, projects,

(12:08):
and activities where discretionary funding will lapse on October one
and no alternative funding source is available. It's a twofer.
It has to be discretionary spending and there's no alternative
funding source for that discretionary program. Political says OMB has

(12:32):
instructed the agencies to begin drafting riff reduction enforced plans
that go beyond standard furloughs, permanently eliminating jobs in programs
not consistent with Trump's priorities in the event of a shutdown. Now,
what they don't say is it also said for those

(12:53):
programs that are deemed non essential, because those are the
ones that will be closed and and so it's not
or and for which there is no alternative source of funding. Now,
I could go into more in detail about the political article,
but suffice it to say political is trying to light

(13:14):
a fire under all the lefties to start panic and
start screaming. I want to emphasize, if there's a shutdown
next week, when the governm runs out of Monday at
money at midnight on September thirtieth, if on that Wednesday,
the follow that Wednesday after that Tuesday, if the program

(13:36):
is deemed non essential and it gets shut down and
a n D and there is no alternative funding for
that program, fire the employees. Isn't that what'll we do
in the business world, isn't it? And isn't that kind
of wonderful? Now, we already have statistics from the Bureau

(14:00):
of Labor Statistics, whether you can believe or not, but
we've already had a reduction of almost three hundred thousand,
maybe it's slightly more than three hundred thousand federal workers.
I call that a good start. But knowing that lying
Democrats and they're lying toties in the cabal are going
to lie to you that such firings are going to

(14:23):
prevent you from getting your Social Security or Medicare federal benefits.
Omb again, I point out was very careful to indicate
those programs are not going to be impacted by this memo.
The memo says programs that will continue regardless of a
shutdown include social Security, Medicare, veterans benefits, military operations, law enforcement,

(14:52):
immigrations and customs enforcement, customs and border patrol, and air
traffic control. According to an OMB official granted anonymity to
share information not yet public, but one thing we do
know is the Democrats are going to lie about it
anyway because some things will never change. Last night, at dinner,

(15:14):
I'm having dinner by myself because I have a pathetic life.
I'm having dinner by myself last night, and I'm reading
an editorial from the Wall Street Journal that was posted
by Kimberly Strassel, who I think is one of the
most amazing writers for the Wall Street Journal, posted at
five point thirty nine Eastern time three point thirty nine

(15:36):
Mountain time yesterday. The headline is russ Vot's secret shutdown weapon.
Democrats will suffer lasting effects if they go through with
their threats. Here's what Kimberly Strassel writes yesterday evening. I
want to share this with you almost verbatim, because I

(15:57):
want you to understand what she said, because it's so
important in terms of this shutdown. She starts out with,
most Americans think of Chuck Schumer Senate Majority Leader and
Hakeem Jeffries House Minority Leader as the Democrat leaders of
the Senate in the House. That's better than the reputation

(16:18):
they may soon have as Russ Vaught's secret weapon. Who's
Russ Vaught. Oh, he's the Director of the Office of
Management and Budget. He's the budget guy. He's the one
that issued the memo. She says, Washington is barreling toward
a shutdown. The Senate returns from a break on Monday

(16:39):
with two days to provide stop gap stop gap funding
to keep the government humming. Messrs Schumer and Jeffries are
having none of it. They insist the government won't run
unless Democrats are given four hundred and fifty billion dollars
in additional Obamacare money and and to Presidents Trump, President

(17:01):
Trump's hold on spending, and a reversal of the Central
Medicaid reform in the Republican's Reconciliation bill. She says, let's
put it another way, Democrats are going to give the
Trump team exactly what it's been wanting a shutdown in
return for Democrats continuing to demand something they will never get.

(17:26):
What a deal, she says, even Faust got some worldly
pleasure in exchange for a soul. This is trading hell
fire for brimstone.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Now, when we get back, I want.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
To finish this because her reading of the politics and
how she thinks it's going to play out is utterly brilliant.
In my opinion, the Democrats have set themselves up to
shoot themselves, probably in the head, not the foot. Remember
back when the government shut down quite some time ago,

(18:00):
I seem to remember it affected me absolutely zero.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Well, that's unfortunate.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yeah, I can add to him saying, yeah, it didn't
affect me personally at all. But I do have a
friend who works for the state government. I do have
a friend friend who works for the federal government. So
it does kind of affect them.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yeah, except most in the past, whether you were an
essential employee or non essential employee, when the shut down
was over, you got reimbursed all your back pay.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yeah, Trump's this is Kimberly Stossel in the Wall Street Journal,
Mister Trump's biggest second term transgression, according to his opponents,
has been his dismantling of the federal government doege firings

(19:01):
or resignation incentives, expected to result in three hundred thousand
fewer federal employees.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
By this year's end.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
The President has also clawed back grant money and frozen funds.
Wat's an incandescent democrat to do well, she writes, hand
him a gift wrapped opportunity to do more of the same. Obviously,
she says. The true scope of this losing proposition came
clear with the memo Mister Vote, director of the Office

(19:31):
of Management Budget, issued Wednesday night explaining how a shutdown's
going to roll. Shutdowns usually mean furloughed federal employees who
suffer temporary inconvenience before resuming their jobs, but not this time.
The VAD memo orders agencies to identify all programs that
depend on discretionary funding, which left us next week and

(19:55):
does not align with the President's priorities. Employees who administer
these disfavored programs or projects won't be furloughed, they will
be fired. Now for small government advocates advocates, she says,
the beauty of this is its reset potential. When government reopens,

(20:18):
the Trump team will hire back the fewest possible statutorily
required employees at programs it already wanted to cut. For
a starter list, see the more than forty five. Mister
Trump's recent budget asked Congress to eliminate, among them. Listen

(20:38):
to these, the Economic Development Administration, the US Interagency Council
and Homelessness, the Legal Services Corporation, and of course, she says,
and then the Department of Education. She says, no need
to ask Congress now, mister Schumer grause on Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
He's not the king. He can't just dictate.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Dictate, well, he can, except when Democrats let him with
a shutdown, which is what they're going to do.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
She says.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
This administration also has every incentive and decent means to
lessen the shutdown pain for average Americans while maximizing it
for Democrats.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
The Trump team.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Has already listed the programs that will continue regardless of
the shutdown. Social Security, Medicare, military operations, veteran benefits, border security,
air traffic control. The recent GOP reconciliation bill helps ensure
they continue to function, she says. And additionally, they have

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the experience of twenty eighteen, when they weather the longest
shutdown in modern times thirty five days, thanks to creative
use of doctrines which allowed them to keep some discretionary
programs ticking. The architect of that much the architect of
much of that nimble maneuvering was Mark Palette, who in

(22:07):
twenty eighteen was Omb's general counsel. Guess what, He's back
in that role again. She says that the Democrat's intellectual
confusion over the shutdown continued with the reaction to the memo.
Mister Schumer brushed aside the layoff threat, claiming that any

(22:27):
firings would be overturned in court, while haqing Jeffreys Warren
federal employees in Virginia that mass firings were coming to
ruin your life. Well, she says, give them credit for
being united in the worst political idea since Biden.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Twenty twenty four. Democrats, she says.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Are digging in with mister Jeffries, even getting a little spicy,
telling the malignant political hacked mister Vault that we will
not be intimidated by your threat.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Well, he can say that.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Because House Republic have already passed a continuing resolution over
the Democrats opposition and Speaker Johnson said he is not
bringing members back to d C until at least Wednesday,
after the shutdown deadline. All the oners, she says, rests
on Chuck Schumer, since it will take Senate Democrat votes

(23:23):
to keep the government running. Now, don't be fooled.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
He knows.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Chuck Schumer knows well what a horrible idea this shutdown is.
In March, he argued that to close the government would
be a gift to the White House since it would
give mister Trump heart blanc to destroy vital government services
at a significantly faster rate, and mister Vaught would give
him the keys to the city, the state, and the country.

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The only thing that's changed, she says, is Chuck Schumer's
personal political situation. His smart decision in March to provide
funding votes was met with howls from the left, complete
with demands that he stepped down as leader and threats
of a primary. His defiance this time raises the expectations

(24:12):
of Democrat voters to a level that all but locks
the party into a shutdown that won't end well. All
this would be amusing were it not for scratch out.
This is amusing. The reason Democrats don't usually do shutdowns
is because governments do government. It's that simple. Yet here

(24:33):
we go. The point's quite simple. House is passing to ACR.
The Democrats will be the ones that will shut it
down in the Senate, and when they do, because Chuck
Schumer can't give those votes to the Republicans. He's put

(24:56):
in a position because of the left wing of his party,
which is now that Marxist wing that controls the party,
he knows he cannot give into Trump.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
He cannot give Trump the votes. So now he is in.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
A Hobson's choice. He's on the rack. He's being pulled
from both ends, and what's he going to protect his
personal political future? So he'll let the government shut down.
He'll try to blame it on Trump. But even the
even the Cabal's going to have a hard time saying,

(25:31):
wait a minute, it's shut down because all the Republicans
voted to keep it open, they voted for a CR.
Democrats are the ones that wouldn't give the votes. Democrats
shut it down, and when they do that, the firings begin.

Speaker 5 (25:45):
So we were told that there might have been twenty
five FBI agents in the j six crowd. Now we
learned the number is really two hundred and seventy five
playing clothes FBI agents. That's eleven times the number we
were told they knew how many were in there, and
that changes so much about the J six narrative. I

(26:09):
hope for many people.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
It will change the narrative, and it will also lead
to all sorts of inquiries about now, inquiries from whom
I don't know, because Republicans and Democrats alike in the
legislative branch, most of them still see it as an insurrection.
Oh my gosh, the day the government almost died, which

(26:32):
is insanity. But this is one more example of how
to Kimberly Strassel's point in this article about the shutdown,
all of this is part of a giant reset. Trump
is resetting virtually everything, and for the first time other

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than maybe Ronald Reagan, actually carrying through on his promises
and doing so in a way that is visible, is
sometimes really in your face. But he wants you to know, Yeah,
I said I do this, so I'm going to do it.
We all know the federal government's bloated. I Democrats themselves

(27:15):
know it's bloated. But even though they know it's bloated.
It's bloated in their favor. All of those independent agencies
that's going before the court. I mean, I probably not.
I'm not going to not, I know, and I'm going
to do this thing because we have taxpay release shops
coming up. But the Supreme Court's about decide whether or
not those independent agencies, whether or not Trump has the

(27:37):
authority to fire someone that's in an independent agency like
the FCC or the FDC. Now there's an old case
from the nineteen thirties that they're going to have to
overturn if they do so. But nonetheless, independent agencies are
part of the executive branch. The founding fathers never imagine
agencies outside, you know, the three branches of government what

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we've created. And we've just come to accept that. So
go back to the shutdown. Schumer knows. First of all,
let's think about politicians. What's their number one priority? Self preservation,
which means reelection. In the last shutdown, the radical left
wing of Democrat Party, which I believe is now the

(28:21):
majority of the Democrat Party eviscerated Schumer. AOC threatened to
primary him. They're all, you know, donors, stop doing anything. Why,
because anything that Trump wants. He wants, you know, to
send flowers everybody to every mother on Mother's Day. He
wants to tell every mother Happy Mother's Day on Mother's Day. Well,

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Democrats would be opposed to that. If he did an
executive order, you know, talking about how great mothers are,
they would be opposed to it. So Schumer's self preservation
is he has to vote against any spending offered by
or c are offered by the Republicans, because not to

(29:04):
do so, to vote in favor of the Republicans continuing resolution,
is to vote in favor of Trump and to vote
in favor of these firings that are sure to come.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
So he can't do it.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
So now we are, for the first time ever Democrats
are directly responsible for shutting down the government next week.
And I believe that's what will happen unless Chuck Schumer
one surprises me and delivers the votes to keep the
government open in order to avoid any firings, any discretionary

(29:42):
spending being cut off, entirely hurting those independent agencies in
any way. The come on, some of those the stupid
legal corporation. Why are we funding that?

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Why? Why are we doing that.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
When that happens, the radical wing of the left, the
right left wing, radical part of the Democrat Party will
pounce on him like flies on chicken poop and pig poop,
and they will eviscerate him. ALC will primary him, or
somebody will. His donors will cut off he will He's

(30:22):
boxed himself into a corner and it's all his fault.
And I'm glad he's done it. I'm glad he's done it.
I think Kimberly Strassel is spot on in this article.
So tomorrow, tomorrow, next week, Tuesday, and Wednesday will know
more about it. I bring you the story today simply

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to prepare you for that. We talked about the smoke
bombs going off earlier. Smoke bombs are going to go
off about fists, just like they'll go off about the
Komby indictment. Just get ready to find your way through
all the smoke of the left