9-27-25 The Weekend Hour 2: Antifa, Anarchists, Black Lives Matter. Far Left Groups Need To Be Targeted for Illegal Activity

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Good night. Michael Brown joins me here the former FEMA
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I think even before the assassination of Charlie Kirk. But

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since and following the assassination of Charlie Kirk, there has
always seemed to me to be this urgency within the
Trump administration to take on the radical left lunatics. It's
not you know, it didn't take the assassination of Charlie
for Trump to refer to the radical left as lunatics. Now,

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as I've said on my weekday program, and I sincerely
believe this, and I think that I think I could
probably find empirical evidence to prove my point. But my
point is what we refer to and what I often
refer to as the Marxist wing of the Democrat Party

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has over time, and I would say that time really
began in earnest, speaking of that at a US in Chicago,
with the election of Barack Obama. Now, as despicable as
Hillary Clinton may be, and I can call her despicable
because I know her personally and I've dealt with her before,

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Barack Obama was truly a Marxist slash Communist at heart.
That's how he was raised, that's what he believes, that's
what he taught, and that's what he told us. That's
what Michelle Obama. That's what Big Mike told us. Barack
Obama told us that, you know that they his wing

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of the Democrat Party were the people that we've been
waiting for. Really, that those are the people I've been fearing,
and that we would have to fundamentally, fundamentally transform this country. No, no,
we don't. We need to stick to our foundation, to
our fundamental principles. And Michelle Obama, and I think she
was shortly taking off the campaign trail after this, and

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I know this may be ancient history to some of you,
but she actually said that Barack Obama. You know, Barack
believes that we need to relearn our history. But that's
she didn't mean relearn like study our history. She means
like Animal Farm or well all of those great writers,

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that we need to erase Marx and Lenen, that we
need to forget our history and learn a new history.
That's what Chairman Mao did. That's what the current chairman
and General Chairman President of the Chinese Communist Party, Eugene
Ping does. It's how he was raised. There are some

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great videos online, by the way, about the background of
Sugen Ping, which you ought to go read or watch
sometime he'll teach you a lot about what's going on
in communist China. Well, I believe that wing of the
Democrat Party has become the majority of the Democrat Party.
Defeating the forces that Trump describes as the radical left lunatics,

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Defeating those forces that are arrayed against this republic. That
requires a detailed understanding of who they are. And it's
going to require a systemic, systemic, systematic plan to break
up that network and all of those networks. And that's

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going to require utilizing every method of national power that
we have. And I think we have to do it
in order to save the Republic. And don't get me wrong,
I think that Trump is doing an amazing thing in
terms of do I think he overreaches sometimes? Yes? Does
he sometimes say things that I wish he wouldn't say. Yes,

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But I've always said, don't take Trump literally, but take
him realistically. The biggest initial problem that I think Trump
faces in confronting what can now be defined as the
radical left, the Marxist wing of the Democrat Party, is

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a fundamental refusal by our own national security apparatus, our
intel agencies, our federal law enforcement to even recognize who's
the president talking about? Do you know it? Currently, the
government refers to domestic terror threats in very broad categories.

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Those categories are things like racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists,
anti government, anti authority, violent extremists, animal rights environmentalists, environment
violent extremists, abortion related violent extremists. Those are actual categories

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in federal statutory code. What I want you to think
about those terms, Let's just go back to the first one,
racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists. That category, along with
all those other categories, are deliberately written to appear to
be content neutral. If I just say racially or ethnically

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motivated violent extremists, well, that could be white supremacists, it
could be black supremacists. So on the face of our
definition of extremists, it appears to be content neutral. That
example of racial or ethnically motivated does legally include both

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white and black supremacist groups. But the problem is when
it comes to an enforcement, When it comes to practice,
the government spends its efforts targeting groups that are perceived
and sometimes actually are, but mostly degily perceived as white supremacists,
and they ignore or at least under emphasize or turn

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the blind eye to black supremacist groups. So while the bureaucracy,
the bureaucrats, the deep state, the administrative state, might claim
to target ANTIFA or similar radical left actors under the oh,
what can I put them under the anti government, anti

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authority of isolent extremists. Let's put them under that group.
In practice, what they emphasize is investigating parents of school
board members, or investigating those J sixers, or investigating somebody
that attends a Catholic church. They don't really investigate Antifa.

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They don't really investigate Hasbilaw or any other group that's
anti government, anti American in this country. They don't investigate that.
So while federal law enforcement devoted, for example, twelve informants
to the Governor Whitmer kidnapping case, remember that case completely
collapsed at trial. All the evidence suggests it completely neglected

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to investigate the John Brown gun clubs, which have conducted
numerous armed ANTIFA attacks on federal offices in multiple spots
around the country. So the President's going to have to
direct the creation of maybe a far left violent extremist
category and then through executive order tell all of the

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law enforcement agencies in the Intel agencies, in the FBI
and all the others. To implement that definition, they would
include all far left violent extremist categories when it comes
to their enforcement activities. Now, well, the action you know,
I don't care about the actual name, but it must

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explicitly include anti fascist, anarchist, autonomous, Marxist socialists, Marxist Leninist, Maoist,
communist extremists and ensure that these distinctions are accurately and
define correctly. That needs to be a directive to law

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enforcement and the intel groups. And that's not radical. That's
used by our allies abroad, for example, the German Ministry
of the Interior Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution.
That ministry in Germany defines far left extremism precisely the

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same way, and then it categorizes each subcategory every year
in reports that are openly available to the public. Any
German can access them and see how they define it,
see that groups that they have identified as being extremist
and anti government, and then they can read about report.
You can see similar to the Inspector General reports. What

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has this ministry done, the mystery of the Interior done
to counter these anti government organizations. Now, what I find
fascinating about this entire discussion is aren't we all generally
anti government? Yes, at least it's in my DNA, But
you go so far that you cross the boundaries of legality.

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We're talking about this attempt by the Trump administration to

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target the far left lunatics that are literally ripping our
society apart. And the more that Trump does what we
voted for, the more radical they get. Now, getting the
government to use this new terminology to actually define what
we need by racial or ethnic violent extremist groups is

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going to be difficult. Back in twenty twenty one, insiders
in the Department of Homeland Security leaked documents about Trump
one point zero trying to require the Department of Homeland
Security to use accurate terminology to describe Antifa by creating

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a category of violent Antifa anarchist extremists. Not surprisingly, the
bureaucracy rejected that that. So that ends up limiting and
derailing the very necessary edition of that language to give
law enforcement and the intel communities the guidance they need

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about what are you looking for? It's also a great
lesson in how everybody thinks. And and don't get me wrong,
the president president is the most powerful human on on
the on the planet. But what's my rule about butt
pay attention? While I say, anytime anybody uses a butt,

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pay attention to language after the butt. He's the most
powerful human on earth. But the deep state, the administrative state,
the bureaucrats can, by simply just sitting on their hands,
virtually prevent a secretary, a deputy secretary, and undersecretary from

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implementing the agenda of the commander in chief. It happens
all the time. I watched it happen with Bush. It
happens with every president Now, most likely the effects are
greater with a Republican president than a Democrat president because
the vast majority of those people that work in the

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deep state, the administrative state, are registered Democrats. A granular,
a really truly granular understanding the far left is necessary
to understand what our response should be. Now, let me
make make clear I thought about this. You know, as

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I do these segments, I put down on in a
word document the titles for Michael to use out in
Los Angeles when he puts together the podcast, And for
this segment, I've written down and TIFA, anarchists, black Lives Matter,
far left groups need to be targeted for illegal activity.

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I am not in any fashion saying just go target
these groups because they exist. No, we need to define
them so that we know when something is being committed,
an act is being committed that is in violation of
federal law, that we can identify the group that is

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doing it. And if it can be proven that the
group ANTIFA as an organization or Black Lives Matter as
a actual I don't know whether it's a Delaware corporation
or what, but as an actual entity can be held
crimly liable for its members in I don't know, maybe

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eurico a racketeer influence corrupt organization charge, but you can't
hold them liable criminally or otherwise until you can define
who they are. Think about just anarchists and autonomist Marxists.

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Those networks dominate what are considered anti fascist or antif activities,
and it includes direct action and violent direct action things
like sabotage, vandalism, docxing, pre planned violence, and that encompasses
both rioting and terrorism, or the assassination of individuals or

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the attempted assassination of ICE agents in Dallas, Texas. They
label all of American society, both mainstream conservatives and liberalism,
and all of our public constitutional institutions. They label everything
as fascists except themselves. Anarchists and autonomous Marxist groups typically

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get funded by crowdsourcing, mutual aid, local community based fundraising,
NGO's the money laundering scheme. Where now this is beginning
to wane a little bit, but nonetheless it still exists
to some degree where Congress will fund some you know
organization's got some really nice, lovey dovey, kind of cuddly

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teddy bear name to it. And then what do they
do where they pay themselves big salaries, and then they
take that what's left if they pay themselves big salaries,
and they take that money and they follow it off
to different groups, maybe two or three levels of different
groups that are actually anarchists and Marxist groups that are
out there committing violence, committing murder, attempted murder, that whole

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mechanism of funding. Go look up sometime the Russian anarchist
Peter Kropotkin's theory of organizing. That's what's being used by
anarchists and socialist groups describe how voluntary organizing provides unofficial

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quasi governmental services. NGOs are the great example of that
inngo's and I'm not talking about every NGO, but inngos
that are engaged in this anti American activity, in these
illegal activities that is actually a Russian anarchist theory put
into practice by American organizations. I know your head's hurting

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right now, isn't it. You don't realize the depth of
the evil and the anti American groups and organizations that
exist in this country, Marxist, Marxist Leninist malice. Just think
about that. Be right back tonight. Michael Brown joins me

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here the former FEMA director of talk show host Michael Brown. Brownie, Now, Brownie,
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think about when I'm not on air, follow me on
x at Michael Brown USA. So I described ANTIFA on
how they use NGO's. Well, if you look at a
Marxist organization or a malist organization or a communist organization,
what they do is slightly different. They'll create these structures,

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these organizations and they really become mass movement organizations. The
Communist Party USA they actually focus on They're much more
business like in this sense. They have a greater strategic
purpose than the anarchists or the Marxist They actually we

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have a system of command and control, and those networks
are focused on indoctrination, organization, creating networks of community organizations.
Does that sound familiar? Who was a community organizer? Oh? Yeah,
Barack Obama they put together front groups think Chinese Communist

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Party and all the front groups that they put in
place in this country, and then they co opt independent
groups through their controlled organizations. What they then do is
they infiltrate and they organize large scale protests, large scale disruptions,
and they'll use different labels and different issues, and whether

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controlled outright are dominated through infiltrators and key positions of authority,
they can operate at a really tiny level, even a
local level, and then they can focus on a broad
based a national mass organization, a broad based or national issue,
or even a niche local issue. These particular groups are

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the most likely of all the far left extremists to
have access to fiscal money sponsorships, through which they can
access huge amounts of donor funds from progressive tax free foundations,
the Open Society Foundation. So they will then fund certain

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physical sponsors, and those fiscal sponsors will then pass money
on to very you know, the Atlanta Solidarity Fund. These
are bail funds and community groups, and they will take
that money and then they will fund either an Antifa
organization or a communist organization, or they will engage in

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activity by finding you know, and I can't think of
one off the top of mine. I had, but some
immigrant organization, for example, it sounds you're like, you know,
it's it almost sounds like, well, it's it's some you know,
it's the Baptist Men's Association. I just I want to
pick a name that that's just like, oh, it must
be a really great group. And the Baptist Men's Association
is they do a great work in disasters. But they'll

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pick a group like that that sounds very good, like
they're doing, you know, wholesome work. And what are they
really doing. They're providing bail money where somebody actually requires bail,
which might be kind of unusual, and they bail people out.
It's imagine an inverted triangle, and that inverted triangle is

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you have the big groups atop, and that money funnels
down to the smaller groups. They're a vertically integrated organization.
They're a vertically integrated network. And those are the ones
that actually have operational ties to foreign governments, to the
Communist Party either in China or in Russia or for
that matter, Cuba Think Party for Socialism. They have direct

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ties to the Chinese Communist Party, the Freedom Road, Socialist
organization that's a networked organization that is tied to other
communist parties in China and in Cuba. And then they
have organizations that have actually been designated by the federal

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government as terrorist groups, the Popular Front for the Liberation
of Palestine HAMAS, the Communist Party of the Philippines, the
New People's Army, and then you have Russia, Venezuela, Iran,
North Korea. They all do exactly the same thing. The
tentacles are everywhere, and all these groups have ideological and

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doctrinal differences, and they actually compete with each other for attention,
for money, for recruits. But they do something that our
political parties are horrible at. They effectively interact and coordinate
through the use of the concept of diversity of tactics.
Popular fronts and we, for example, Republicans, well you're a rhino. Well,

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sometimes a rhino is the only person you're going to get.
I always use Susan Collinson as the example. I personally,
I don't dislike Susan Collins, but she's not my favorite
senator because she really is a rhino. She's a the caller.

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A moderate Republican is I think a misuse of that agedy,
but nonetheless she's the only kind of Republican that can
probably get elected in the state of Maine. Communists recognize
that sometimes you have to bring in other people. Am

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I saying we had need to act like communists in
this regard? I would say, yes, we need to build
a bigger tent. The Communists, the Marxists are willing to
bring in other people that might be on the margins
of their true ideology, but they know that they can
work on them and maybe eventually convert them, re educate

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them if you will. Now I say re education. I'm
not trying to re educate Susan Collins. I don't want
to put her in a re education camp, but I
do want to put political pressure on her, and I
do want to put political pressure on the voters of
Maine to recognize that, Yeah, I know you're a bunch
of woodsman, and I know you live up there, and
I know you're kind of isolating, you're kind of far

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away from the rest of the country, But come on,
you can do better than Susan Collins. They take a
whole approach, a whole of what other organization is. Yes,
we're a big tent, and we have different people in
here that maybe we don't like in particular issues, but
they're still part of the Communist Party. You, for example,

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if we were to take on these groups, seriously, take
on these groups and identify them correctly, and then tell
Pam Bondi and Cash Betel, tell John Ratcliffe at the CIA,
tell Tulcy Gabbert at the Directorate of National Intelligence that

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these are the definitions, and we're looking for groups that
meet these definitions, and that if your investigations show that
they are engaged in illegal activity, including espionage, if it's
the CIA, they're engaged in foreign espionage or domestic espionage,
which would include Homeland Security and the d n I

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and the FBI all their counter terrorism intel departments, and
it's illegal, then go after them. We are not doing that,
and it is allowing them to proliferate and to do
things like get prosecutors elected in districts where they'll allow

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no cash bail so that people with multiple rap sheets
rap sheets say is long as this building is as
long as the city block to be let go. The
guy that killed the Ukrainian woman on the flight rail

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in North Carolina, she would be alive if the judge
had simply imposed bail, but no, the judge, maybe the
prosecutor too, I don't know, just speculating that they might
be part of these groups that get elected because they
get money from these nice sending organizations which are really

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Communist or Marxist fronts in goos that help them get elected,
and then they implement this kind of policy that what
rips apart the fabric of our society, and we just
let it go. So if we're going to fix this,
we're going to have to recognize that some of these

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charitable organizations, some of these organizations that have nice names,
are really fronts for Marxist communists socialists that are trying
to rip apart the country. Trump's got to do this
charity fraud investigations against far less extremist organizations. Well, that

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actually has played a key role in Georgia and Virginia.
Civil rights enforcement is likely going to be necessary in
different situations, but it's going to have to be enforcement. Nonetheless,
without any enforcement, they'll continue to proliferate, continue to raise money,
and to continue to at arm's length, engage in illegal activity.

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It's kind of like when we do drug busts. How
many movies. Have you seen, for example, where they identify
the pusher in the neighborhood, but they go to the
pusher or they watch the pusher because that's not who
they really want. They don't even want the next level up.
They want the direct source. That's how we need to

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start approaching these organizations. And then under Title eighteen, Chapter
one fifteen of the US Code, then we can engage
in prosecution for certain things. I'll describe that. Next, it's
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is half drunk. Back to Title eighteen, Chapter one fifteen

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of the US Penal Criminal Code, that section of the
Criminal Code is aimed at groups that are engaged in
seditious conspiracy or engaged in direct advocacy for the overthrow
of the US government. Well, using that code may at
some point prove necessary. Now that option, I fully understand,

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is going to provoke an aggressive legal challenge. Why because
those particular statues have rarely ever been used, and primarily
because of the Supreme Court decisions beginning back in nineteen
fifty seven, a lot of which was a response to
the McCarthy era. But just having the challenge, I forget

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what the subject was this week, but I made the
comment something to the effect that whatever that issue was,
it's probably going to go to the Supreme Court. And
I'm fine with that because it's time that we reevaluate
some of the precedent and as long as we have
a somewhat solid majority on the court, this would be

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the time to look at those old cases and see
if it isn't time to change it. Oh, I know
what it was in referral to the president's ability to
fire people. Well, I get it to the court. Get
that to the Supreme Court, and let's see if we
can overrun rule a case that dates back to nineteen
thirty five. This says that the president cannot fire people

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that are part of these so called independent agencies like
the FTC and the FCC. Congress just created that, and
president after president after president has let Congress establish these
so called independent agencies and they're still part of the
executive branch. We don't have a fourth branch of government

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called the independent agencies. So I want that eventually challenged.
And the Supreme Court case from the nineteen thirties that
allow that to occur needs to be overturned. And Congress,
if Congress doesn't like what the Supreme Court says, then
you go enact the law and follow the law and
make them a part of the executive branch, which they
technically are. Well, anyway back to these fifteen of Title

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eighteen the seditious conspiracy and statutes against the overthrow of
the US government have just languished. Well, the Department of
Justice ought to consider pursuing either material support or accessory
charges against you know, websites that do crowdfunding or organizations

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that negligently or purposely assist ANTIFA groups in raising funds
for items, materials, or actions that are used in the
commission of terrorist acts or criminal acts. They might be
crowdfunding for weapons, armor shields, face masks, or the cash

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needed to keep the extremist viable and acting. It's going
to take a lot of work, but that's what you know,
people ask, well, why are we doing this one You've
you've got to direct I mean, the White House Council's Office,
in coordination with the Department of Justice, is going to

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have to draft executive orders or at least policy statements
from the press that says, here's how we're going to
define these groups, and if they're found to engage to
be engaging in illegal activity, then we're going to pursue
and prosecute them. Now that prosecution is going to cause
whiplash because those who have been accustomed for decades now

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of getting taxpayer money or money from groups from overseas
organizations that are engaged in trying to rip this country apart.
Holding them accountable is going to cause all sorts of lawfare,
all sorts of legal challenges. But that's kind of what
I voted for to upend this just malaise that we

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have been in of never challenging. And I know it's
going to take time. And Trump only has what three
and a half years left, less than three and a
half years left, which gets back to the politics of everything,
and that means that we have to be engaged to
make sure that four years in the twenty twenty eight election,

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that another Republican wins. Is that JD. Vans. That's fine
with me, Is it Marco Rubio? That's fine with me?
But someone who will carry on this agenda, because it's
going to take more than one presidential cycle to get
it done. People get mad and then they get mad
at me. Oh I want it done today. Well, I'd

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like to have it done today. We don't live in
a dictatorship. We still have due process, we still have
the rule of law, and we still have politics. So
if you brush all of this off because they say, oh, Michael,
this is just too hard and it's just going to
take too long. Well, then you're a part of the
problem because it is hard and it is going to
take time, and it means you have to remain heavily

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involved in politics. And that's it's not just at the
federal level, it's at all levels. For exams, Do I
really have to say this? In Des Moines, Iowa, you
have sat on your duff while an illegal alien served
since what was it twenty seventeen or something as you're

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superintendent of schools. He's been paid millions of dollars set
to get a raise up to I think over two
hundred thousand dollars a year, and you're telling me that
local politics isn't important. How did that guy survive because
in this country, yeah, I'm picking on you, Des Moines.

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In this country, when we failed to recognize that the
local politics is as important as the national politics, that's
what you get. You get an illegal alien who carries
around a glock nineteen, a hunting knife, and three thousand
dollars in cash, which tells me he knew that he

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was vitilating the law. He knew that he was living
off the taxpayers, and he knew at any moment that
that whole act might come crashing down. Indeed it did,
and he goes runs away in his car, hides in
the bush, finally gets arrested. If I were to Moin,
I'd be kind of embarrassed. And that's not to say

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that similar story couldn't pop up right here in Denver
some time. Wouldn't surprise me in the least. So don't
tell me that politics isn't important. It's amazingly important. And
this weekend, des Moin, it's your turn to stand at
as the example of why hang tight. I'll be right

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