9-4-25 - Hour 1 - Jon Caldara Filling In - Vaccine Mandates

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, come on, John, you just got done telling us
how the Democrats have ran this state into the ground
and Colorado's at the bottom of the list for everything
that matters.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
And now.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Military people would rather live here than in Alabama, where
they have more freedom in a lower cost of living.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
All right, arguable, let's take it on. Hey, it's six
minutes after Good Morning. I'm John Caldera in four the
Big Man. We can't find him. He's likely in some
rehabs someplace, but you know, we wish him, we wish
him the best. When we find him, he'll be back,
which should be I believe Monday won't it in meantime,

(00:53):
But do was that any care that he's gone? Somebody does,
because you know, I don't know how you morning people
do this, Like I'm not doing this next week? Uh no,
I don't you know, I think do you guys just
stay up all night and then go to bed after
this show? Bedtime is like eight o'clock at nine o'clock

(01:16):
in that range, so we have no night life. So
basically you're you're ninety year olds. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so
you hit the buffets at four o'clock in the afternoon.
You call that dinner and then you watch it. It's
special for you. Yeah. Then you watch a couple of
episodes of Madlock and then you go to bed too true.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah yeah, and then you know, you have some some
fantasies about Angela Lansberry and you know, it's it's a
good it's it's a good good thing being being.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
A morning talk show host. I don't know how they
do it. My brain doesn't work in the morning, and
I know I'm different. People always talk about the golden hour.
Know what the golden hour is? The golden hour supposedly,
did you get up at five o'clock? You get up
at five o'clock when the world is asleep, and then

(02:09):
you get all that stuff done that other people don't
get done. That doesn't work for me. It just never
has worked. I've tried the five in the morning wake
up call. No, doesn't know, because all I can do
at five in the morning is stare at a wall

(02:33):
and then and then I gotta go to work. So
I don't know how you guys do it. Is it caffeine?
Are you addicted? Do you take it by the gallon?
I've never really been a coffee or caffeine guy. But
I know Michael does the diet coke. It doesn't do
like the zero or whatever uncaffemated one, so he's got

(02:55):
that at least. Yeah, that's not not much, are you
guys on meth s? Oh? Okay, Well, well we'll talk later.
Whatever works. Anyway, give me a call three h three
seven to one three eight two five five seven one
three talk. Got a lot of good stuff to talk about.

(03:17):
Let's go first to Florida, shall we? Florida? Is is
it going to get rid of the vaccine mandates? Is this?
Is this a good thing? Is this a bad thing?
Is this a terrific thing? I'm not certain. My suspicion

(03:39):
is it's a good thing. My suspicion is this is
a fine thing. I know people are freaking out about it,
and I am pro vaccine. Let me make it really clear.
When you have kids, you have to decide whether or
not they get vaccines. When you're an adult, you have

(04:04):
to decide whether or not you have vaccines. For the
most part, I take the vaccines. I no longer take
the COVID nineteen vaccine. I took it when it came out.
I still have questions about it. I'm not a big fan.

(04:24):
I don't like the policy that government had that you
had to have the JAB in order to go anywhere.
Remember we had our little cards, our little cards that
proved we had the vaccine. You couldn't go on an airplane,
you couldn't go on all sorts of things until you

(04:44):
showed your little papers. It was your papers, please, in
order to travel, did you have your vaccine? If you
had your vaccine, then then we'll let you into the concert.
What that's not America, that's insane. That was different than
the usual arguments for and against vaccines, the smallpox vaccine,

(05:14):
meningitis flu vaccines. Florida becomes the first state to eliminate
vaccine mandates. Now, this has been a longtime cornerstone of
public health for keeping school kids and adults safe. The

(05:34):
state attorney the state surgeon general who announced the decision
cast the current requirements in schools and elsewhere as immoral.
I like that immoral intrusions on people's right to hamper
parents' ability to make health decisions for their kids. Quote.

(05:57):
People have a right to make their own decisions, informed decisions,
he said. Now, this guy clashes with the medical establishment.
I think it's wrong not to give your kids certain vaccines.
Smallpox is largely eliminated from the world stage thanks to vaccines.

(06:27):
When we had kids, we had to make those decisions
early on do you give them vaccines? And we decided yes.
Others decide no. But if you decide no, your kid
can't go to school. Oh wait, the law requires your
kid to go to school. Here's what I find fascinating.

(06:52):
Here's what I found fascinating during the COVID lockdowns, during
the COVID mandates, that people were saying, government needs to
force you to have the jab to be scrapped into
a chair against your will while people put chemicals into
your body and you have no choice. These were the

(07:17):
same people who largely said my body, my choice when
it came to abortion, and I could not understand the
hypocrisy there. I could not understand the logic that they
would go crazy mad about restrictions on abortion, saying, wait,

(07:39):
you cannot tell me what to do with my own body,
and then they turn around and say, but you have
to have this thing injected into you. There's something really
weird about that. I'll go one further in Colorado is

(08:01):
the most progressive when it comes to abortion law. Not
only can you kill your unborn child up to the
millisecond before at birth and they're completely viable outside of
the womb, but now you cannot choose not to have

(08:22):
an abortion. Let me explain it. So, not only do
we have these protections, but now, thanks to a new
change in our constitution, public financing of abortion is mandated
in Colorado, So you have no choice. Everyone's paying for it.

(08:45):
When you have an abortion, you can either have a
traditional abortion or you can have a chemical abortion. You
can take an abortion pilled. There are actually two different
pills that you take spread over a certain amount of time,
a few days. I believe there is a reversal pill.
That reversal pill. If you change your mind after taking

(09:06):
the first pill, you go no, no, no, I was wrong.
I want to keep this baby. I think it's pregnant.
Zone is that it's what the hormone is. You can
take a pill that counteracts what the first pill was doing.
You're can do that in every state in America, but

(09:26):
you can't do it in Colorado because our legislature voted
to make giving that pill out, to prescribing that pill,
to making it available illegal. They banned it So let
me see if I understand this. The people who said

(09:47):
get out of my uterus, the people who said my body,
my choice, are the people who then banned a pill
to give women choice in their pregnancy. It changed the
state from a pro choice place to a pro abortion state.

(10:14):
So how does one walk around with a sign saying
my body my choice, I'm pro choice, I'm pro choice
on abortion, and then say except if you want to
keep the baby, then you don't have the choice for me.

(10:35):
It seems either we have bodily autonomy or we don't
have bodily autonomy. What does it mean? Well, it's a
tricky road because if you believe that you are your
skin and everything inside your skin that's you, and therefore
you have control over that, well then you should be

(10:59):
able to just if you want to take that anti
abortion pill, you should decide if you want to take vaccines.
You should choose if you want to. Dare I say it,
take drugs for recreation because it's your body, isn't it?

(11:24):
Is there anything else that is you? Now, along with
that comes with a lot of responsibility. But for the
sake of society, we have forced kids to take certain vaccines.
I'm in that weird position where I am very pro

(11:45):
vaccine and very anti vaccine mandate? Is that reasonable? Is
my position wrong? Three or three seven one one, three
eight two five five seven to one three talk by
all means send us a text as well, What what

(12:07):
does that? What does it mean? Well? I think I
think it means that we've got a right to our
own bodies. That's it. It's it's just pretty darn simple.
So here's here's Florida saying parents now have that right.

(12:36):
You know what the other side's going to say when
you don't mandate these things, Kids are gonna get sick.
When kids get sick, who's going to pay for it?
Not the parents, but society who's going to pay for it?
But the taxpayers who have to pay for them to
go into into the hospital. It's going to be the

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other families who gets sick because their kids are exposed.
And you've had kids, you know, kids are diseased, sponges,
their sickness sponges. You send your kid to daycare, you
send your kid to school, and he comes home and
he's he's typhood? Mary? Did I say typhood? How about typhoid? Mary?

(13:21):
There we go that's better. So is this a good idea?
Is this the right thing to do? The chair of
the Florida chapter of American Academy of Pediatrics says removing
the vaccine puts students and school staff at greater risk.

(13:41):
Now I need to understand this, because if you've been vaccinated,
shouldn't you not be at risk? In other words, if
I hang out with people who have smallpox, but I've

(14:02):
had the smallpox vaccine, shouldn't I be safe from that?
If you're a doctor, I'd love to hear your viewpoint
on this. Three or three seven, one, three, eight, two five,
five seven to one three talk. Here's a quote from
the American Academy of Pediatrics chair. She says, when every

(14:23):
school is vaccinated, it is hard for diseases to spread,
all right, I get that, easier for everyone to continue
learning and having fun. Obviously, she never went to middle school.
When children are sick and miss school, caregivers also miss work,

(14:46):
which not only impacts those families, but also the local economy.
Wait a second, honey, your job is being the head
of the American Academy of Pediatrics. Your job is not economist.

(15:10):
Your job is not to say, oh well, I got
to give your kid a shot by law because it's
good for the local economy. That one doesn't work. Democratic
state representatives so and so who is running for the
Orlando mayor said it is scrapping the vaccines is reckless
and dangerous and could cause outbreaks of preventable disease. This

(15:39):
is a public health disaster making in the making for
the Sunshine State. All right, So you've got that happening
in Florida, and then you've got turmoil at the US
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention fueled by Kennedy's extensive

(15:59):
restruct string and downsizing. I'm reading reading for the AP.
Democratic governor Washington, Oregon, and California announced Wednesday that they
have created an Alliance to Safeguard Health policies, contending that
the administration is politicizing public health decisions. Excuse me, wait

(16:23):
a second. So the left coast states are creating an
alliance to safeguard health policies, contending the administration is publicizing
health decisions. Did we just live through through COVID mandates,

(16:45):
through the lockdowns, through forced jabs? Did we already do this?
The partnership plans to coordinate health guideline by aligning immunization. Yeah,
I said that right, plans on the recommendations from respected

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national medical organizations. The problem is we have no trust
in government anymore. We have no trust in government. The
government's mishandling of COVID ripped away our faith that they're
telling us the truth. The hypocrisy of watching our leaders

(17:34):
tell us to do one thing as they did another
thing ripped away the trust we have in government. And
what's the response. The response is, we're not going to
listen to you anymore. Maybe even when you're right, we
don't believe you. We simply don't believe you. Okay. Now,

(18:02):
the AP says it this. Vaccines globally have saved at
least one hundred and fifty four million lives globally over
the last fifty years. After the World Health Organization put
me in this category. Vaccines absolutely yes, Vaccine mandates not

(18:33):
for me. Give your kids a shot for measles, chicken pox, hepatitis, diphtheria.
I didn't get home till eleven last night, had to
be up that five. I forgot to set my alarm clock.
But it's still lowcup long time. That's how we do it.
That's how we do it. That's a morning people do it.

(18:53):
Their bodies are wired to wake up and be sharp
in the morning. My body is wired to sleep till noon.
But you know, I think it's important to wake up
for lunch. I'm John Caldero in for the Big Man.
Give me a call three or three seven, one three

(19:13):
eight two five five seven one three talk. Now I'm
hitting that age. I don't know if it's what's happened,
but I'm doing that thing where you wake up at
like four o'clock and you can't get back to sleep.
Is this is this an age thing? What?

Speaker 4 (19:30):
When?

Speaker 2 (19:30):
When did this happen? You're there just laying there, going hmm,
what should I think about? Now, it's not your old
man bladder that wakes you up and then you can't
go back to sleep after that. Oh no, no, the
adult ipertakes here of that. Oh okay, good god. Yeah. So
I had a heart attack a year ago. I'm fine,
I'm fine, I'm fine, and ever since then, Yeah, I

(19:55):
don't sleep at night. I wake up and I'm just like,
why do And they say, well, then you should get
up and do something. But don't watch television, don't be
on a screen. What do you want me to do?
I think about how much I want to go to sleep.
That's that's what I do, all right, give me a call.

(20:17):
Three oh three seven to one, three eight, two five five.
Florida becomes the first state to remove mandates for vaccines. Now,
when you think about it, you think about all those
those things that we now have some control over thanks
to the vaccines. Smallpox is largely a thing of the past. Polio.

(20:45):
Polio is not a thing. It's not a thing. It
was only a couple generations ago that polio destroyed people.
Vaccines are miracles. We've got shots for measles. Measles are miserable,
chicken pox, hepatitis B, diphtheria, whooping cough. I remember when

(21:11):
my kids were born. I asked the I asked her doctor,
what about this whooping cough? And she said, quote, if
you've ever seen a kid with whooping cough, it would
be an easy decision. I'm like, all right, that did it.
So is it consistent to say yes to vaccines and

(21:34):
no to mandates? If your kid is vaccinated against these things,
then is it a problem when he's hanging out with
other people, other kids who have who might have these
these viruses. Is it okay for your kid if he's

(21:59):
had the measle shot to go hang out and with
people with measles? Well, having a vaccine doesn't mean it's guaranteed,
but you build up an immunity. Every year the flu
vaccine comes out, I try to get it because having
the flu stinks. But it's not a guarantee. The CDC

(22:26):
tries to guess as best as they can which strain
of flu is going to be the big popular one
for the winner, and they create vaccines for it. I'm
happy to take that shot. I've never had a reaction
to it. The idea that vaccines cause an increase in

(22:53):
autism is such an amazing debate because the science community
says no, no, there's there's nothing there. Other people, including
our former Senator Kennedy, who now takes care of our
departments of Health, say yes, absolutely, And so you've you've

(23:20):
end up you end up having this bizarre, truly bizarre coalition.
You've got hippie dippy progressives who live in places like Boulder.
Boulder has the highest level of unvaccinated kids in the state.

(23:44):
Why is it because they're they're crazed Trump fanatics. No,
they're hippie dippy people who don't want to put the
chemicals in their kid. And they're joined by the Hicks
from Florida and the Republicans from Florida who don't trust

(24:05):
the government. What a weird coalition. So you've got this
horseshoe politics that people on the far left and far
right agree for different reasons on the same policy. Did
you get your kid vaccinated? Would you have done it again?

(24:27):
If not, why not give me a buzz or give
me a text? Three or three seven one, three eight
two five five hmm, John. One big difference from when
we were kids and got shots was that they were
mostly single vaccine per shot, and they were over a

(24:47):
period of time. Now they mix it all together in
a single shot. Actually, I think there's some truth to that.
We tried to spread out the shots for our kids
so that they didn't get you fifteen shots all in
one day. Vaccines reading for the text should be the
parent's decision, and if the kid gets sick, it's on them.

(25:12):
But they shouldn't be punished for their choices regarding their kids.
But that said, all older vaccines have been studied and
have been proven to be effective. The covid JAB hasn't
greed and we need more studies regarding vaccines relation to autism.
Thanks Karen, and I appreciate the comment that these old

(25:38):
vaccines are effective and I believe they are largely safe.
Isn't it funny what you think is good science at
the time turns out to be bad science. My favorite photograph,
favorite photograph of all time, next to the Beatles walking
across the street on Abbey Road, is this black and

(26:00):
white photo from the Tortoise Rounds. I think it was
nineteen seventeen, nineteen seventeen, and all the racers on their
bicycles are are smoking cigarettes. Why because the science of
the time was smoking a cigarette before you took the

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big hill in the race, opened up your lungs, opened
up your lungs. And therefore all the racers are doing
the healthy thing and smoking while they're pedaling their bicycles.
It's spectacular. It's just spectacular because that was the science

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at the time. Subscribe a phone call. Let's talk to John. John. Welcome,
you're with Caldera. Good morning, Good.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
Morning John for my call. I you know I was
vaccinated as a kid and all that stuff. But I
believe in vaccinations for the most part as well. But
I think I really think today in today's environment after COVID,
the fact that we forced kids, we forced everybody to
take this, We made people lose their jobs on a
vaccine that neither prevent COVID nor we're not even sure

(27:14):
how much it actually helped. And I know people that
have been severely damaged from the COVID shot, or at
least we believe that's what happened. I think you're going
to steal a lot more distressed to the government and
vaccines and all these other things, and I think they
really did some damage, unfortunately by doing what they did.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
I don't think we understand the damage the COVID lockdowns did.
I think I think it's only catching the surface of
how it ripped away trust from government institutions and other institutions.
How it trained people to become subservient to government mandates

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without question, which I never thought would happen in America.
It was wild to see. And then the damage it
did to children who lost a year to two years
of education and socialization. You know, you wonder why our
kids are going crazy, why there's mass shootings, why crime
is up, why suicide is up, why mental illness is up. Well,

(28:17):
when you put children in house arrest for years for
no reason, Yeah, this is going to happen. So the
fallout of this, the generational fallout, will take decades to understand.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Yeah, I agree, and I think I'm concerned. I absolutely
think that we might see some of these childhood diseases
starting to crop back up that are preventable just because
people don't trust anything the government says anymore. That's just
the really unfortunate part of what they did.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
To your point, there have been outbreaks. There have been
outbreaks of measles. There are outbreaks and measles in Texas
and a couple in Colorado measles. There's no reason we
should have measles. That's that's that's a thing of the past,
but here it is, and it's going to scare people
into making bad decisions. Government. Government screws up just about everything.

(29:19):
So whatever government's investing in, invest in the other direction.
You'll probably be be okay that way. Hey, thanks for
the call, h yourself with terrific morning. Thanks for the buzz.
How about this one, John, Notice how illegal kids aren't
required to be vaccinated like citizens. Or the correlation between

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the rising number of illegals and the rising number of
diseases we haven't seen in any significant numbers for generations.
Is that true? I haven't verified that. So if if
kids go to school, aren't they all required to have
vaccines even if their kids are here illegally? Hmmm? I

(30:07):
like this one, John, Without the mandates, now the doctors
and those for the vaccines will have to work to
convince everyone not only to get vaccinated, but to vaccinate
for each disease. Yes. Yes, this is the whole argument
between those of us who believe in individual liberty and

(30:30):
those who believe in collectivism. Those who believe in collectivism
believe an elite should make decisions for us. How much
easier is that just make those decisions for us instead
of coercing us. We liberty junkies say, convince us you

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don't want us to use a plastic bag or or
want us to use a paper straw by all means,
I'm open to it. Just can convince me all right?
Three oh three seven, one three eight two five five.
I'm John Calderic. Keep it right here. You're on six
thirty k how gone. I got a question for you.
When you told your daughter that what you were saying

(31:14):
wasn't sexist, it was misogynist. How did she respond? I
think that's pretty funny line of line of reasoning and
uh and it made me laugh when you said that.
But I'm just curious how she responded. And you said
that good question, So got it. My daughter was little,

(31:36):
said Dad, you're such a sexist, and I said, no,
I'm not. I'm a misogynist. She said, what's the difference,
and I said practice And she laughed because she shares
my very sick sense of humor. I've done terrible things

(31:58):
for my children, but giving my daughter my terrible, sarcastic,
sometimes vulgar sense of humor was was was the worst part.
And my allergy to being a morning person. How about

(32:24):
this text, John, I'm not a morning person either. I
tell coworkers if they want a coherent conversation with me,
then schedule meetings after ten a m. Absolutely, thank you, Rochelle,
And she sends me this very important bit of research
from neurolaunch to website that looks at at brain studies

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illuminating to the realm of night hours. Owls. A growing
body of research suggests that those who burn the midnight
oil may possess a cognitive edge, sparking a captivating exploration
into the complex interplay between sleep patterns and intellectual prowess.

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Oh I like this. As the world slubbers, these nocturnal
creatures find themselves wide awake, their minds buzzing with ideas
and creativity. But what exactly sets night owls apart from
their early bird counterparts? Could and could their preference for
burning the midnight oil be linked to higher intelligence? Oil? Duh,

(33:45):
the world hates night owls. The world loves early birds,
and early birds catch worms. Who the hell wants worms?
But no, you go ahead and have a seven am
meeting at work and people are like, oh, yeah, I'll
be there. Try one a ten at night and see

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what they say.