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Let's go. Six is the time. This is ninety seven to one of
the Freak. It is the speakeasy. Here with you today as we are
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every day from two until the witchinghour of six o'clock this evening. Well,
a little Hollywood swinging coming up here, and just a bit Chuck Cooperstein,
the Higher Authority himself, AH isgoing to be with us at four
five today. But there are acouple of things we need to get to
first, one of which is this. All we have to give is what's
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in our bucket? All right.The NFL Draft is tomorrow, and I
love the NFL Draft, So we'regonna talk about some Cowboys stuff, but
not yet. I do want tohit one Maverick thing first. And I
know they played it on Been inSkin earlier, but was watching the Maverick
game last night. My favorite Markfollow Well play by play moment ever happened.
It was absolutely incredible. And thisis why you have broadcast teams that
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are local, because you can't hidewho you want to win, right,
And I want that on my broadcast. I don't want over I don't want
over the top homersm no matter what, like, yeah, team's gonna win.
By fifty every night. But Ialso don't want sheer objectivity. Yes,
yeah, there's a little lean inthere, which is what I'm looking
for. I know who you wantto win, and I'm gonna hear it
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throughout the game. So as theuh, it's kind of winding down,
I believe at this point it isa three point Mavericks lead with like twelve
fifteen seconds left something like that.And it's right after the Kawhi layup where
Kyrie we thought he fouled him.They challenged it. It wasn't a foul.
So it's a three point lead.Yeah, and it's Mavericks ball.
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And Mark Followell is as professional asit gets it as a play by play
guy, except for this throw itin and to Luca Kyria roller coaster of
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a possession. No I'm not,I'm not okay. He couldn't make he
couldn't make words. He's one ofus. He's just a fan right there,
because they invited it to Luca andthere's like he's fakes a pass.
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The guy gets the air, hestarts to go around him, and then
Luca leaves his feet and it's like, oh God, what's he gonna do?
He threads a needle with a bouncepass that one of the clippers is
the like clapping and jumping like howdid we not steal it? And as
it's en route towards going follow up, can't make words anybody else and it
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comes off as phony, contrived whatever, but not Mark. No, that
was amazing, so amazing. Iwant to hear the whole thing again.
If you mind blow it in Lucahaf are you okay? Well then Skin's
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trying to Skin sounds like he's losinghis voice pretty bad. That was a
It was just such a wild assgame. Yeah, it was such a
wild ass game. Like, ifone of these games is a blowout,
get ready because they're gonna have abunch of the push and shove and guys
taking cheap shots. Oh yeah,like it's cranking up. And if it
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ever isn't gonna cost someone a game, shots will be taken. Yeah,
Like Westbrook shoved PJ. Washington twohanded in the back and the rest didn't
even see it and he went down. And if there's a game that's out
of hand, it's gonna get outof hand. The time has come to
keep it real. Go team oneone on your homes. Wow, that's
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how I would sound trying to callit like it's it's hard to hide your
excitement sometimes. And I love thathe was just so raw on there.
It's like this is how he reallyfeels. That's the inner mark follow well,
showing he can say that was hisbest follow Well ever, what that
that was right there? Yeah?I mean it's my thought. I thought
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I heard him say say that lastnight, and it might have. It
must have been on that. It'smy favorite followell ever because like he is
so good and like kind of buttonedup right, And sometimes when you say
polished, I think boring and Idon't mean it that way because he's not
boring, but he is polished.Yeah, he's as good as it gets.
Yeah, and he just lost hismind and just made sounds that was
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so good. Well, we knewhim when he didn't care quite so much
about being polished, and you shouldhave seen him then. Was it a
lot of that? I've heard therewas that and a whole lot more I've
heard follow I was willing to havefun. I don't know if he has
as much fun as he once did, but I'm chilled out, but I've
heard he has a time or hadtimes. Okay, Tomorrow we will be
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at Buffalo Wild Wings in Grapevine,and that's where we're gonna do our radio
broadcast from two to six. Thenat six o'clock I'm gonna stick around.
KT is gonna join me and weare going to cover the NFL Draft.
The first round is tomorrow night,starting at six. And I don't know
how long we'll be there. Asit ten minutes now or is it still
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fifteen minutes per pick? We mightbe there. The Cowboys might not pick
until nine thirty or ten. Idon't know. We're gonna be there a
long time. Yeah, we're gonnabe hanging, painting and baiting. Yeah,
picks the Cowboys pick. Yeah,we'll figure out. We're gonna have
fun. We'll keep it eye onKT. I will because I hear he
comes to laugh when he covers thethe does. He does. He's a
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wild card. He's a tough one. He's tough. I've heard flirtation.
I saw some stuff on the internet. Kevin Gray might swing by. I
don't know. Maybe, I don'tknow, but maybe we'll figure it out.
Uh, Kevin's out there, Yeah, there are Kevin's I saw something
that interested me this morning. Thatis from an ESPN content producer. Producers
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are important in this world. Yeah, And what one of them did is
he ran the last twenty years ofNFL drafts, the ones that you'd be
comfortable grading, which means wait fouror five years, and he ran the
numbers on first round picks over atwenty year span from twenty to twenty nineteen
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and figuring out did you hit ona pick? Did you miss the pick?
And you have to pick a criteriafor what counts as a hit.
And so what he went with isand I think this is fine. It's
as good arometers you're going to get. Is guys who signed a second contract
with the team that drafted him,he calls that a hit, and if
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they didn't, he calls it amiss. Okay. And then he broke
it down by position over the lasttwenty years, and it's interesting on where
teams hit the most, where theymiss the most. It's interesting like wearing
the draft no like which positions?Okay, Like you pick every first round
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pick over the last twenty years,If you picked a quarterback, it was
a hit forty six percent of thetime. And then he did that for
each position, and it makes memore confident than ever that the Cowboys are
picking an offensive lineman in the firstround. I think that was already yeah,
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pretty well established based on who they'retalking to and what we know that
they need. But this is kindof while. So the highest hit percentage
on first round picks over the lasttwenty years is guys that play center,
and the hit rate is ninety twopercent, eleven out of the twelve picked.
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And the twelfth one's name was BillyPrice, and he got traded for
a good d tackle from Cincinnati,So even he was useful for them,
they'll miss on first round centers.They also don't take a ton of first
round centers, which is probably partof it, because I think part of
the NFL draft is also if Ihit, How awesome is that? So
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like quarterbacks these days make fifty milliondollars If I hit on a quarterback that
is the highest paid center. JasonKelsey was like fourteen fourteen, twenty eight
forty two, So it's like threeand a half times better if I hit
on a quarterback. Yeah, that'swhy teams try to find quarterbacks. Yeah,
it can change the direction of yourwhole franchise. A really good center
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won't nescessarily do that, but it'svery important. Right, So all spots
are important. And if you geta good enough player, I don't care
where you drafted him. Right,If I get the next Jason Kelce,
if I get the next Travis Frederick, sure use a first round pick on
a center. It's just that hittingon that position is well, look at
what the Cowboys are doing right now. They're having trouble trying to get Ceedee
Lamb signed because he's gonna make overthirty million dollars a year, which is
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why teams will take wide receiver inthe first round. If I hit,
I have a thirty million dollar player. If I hit on a center,
I've got a twelve or thirteen milliondollar player, which is fine. It's
good. So ninety two percent ofthe time it's a hit when it's a
center. In the last twenty years, the next highest hit rate offensive tackle
fifty nine percent from ninety two tofifty nine. Wow. Uh. And
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teams make that pick a lot moreoften, sixty four of them over this
span, so pretty much three ayear. You hit on tackles more than
guards. You hit on tackles morethan guards. Guard is fifty percent.
Uh so ninety two, fifty nineto fifty those are the three highest hit
rates of any position, all offensiveline. That makes you feel pretty good,
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Yeah, knowing that they're probably gonnatake an offensive lineman. Yeah,
I thought guard would have been higherthan tackle. I guess I would guess
that too. I guess though,that's because if you miss on a tackle,
everybody knows about it. Yeah,you know that's a big miss for
you. What's funny is I canstart thinking of names of guards because I've
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been doing the draft sense. Idon't even know, but I remember some
of the guys that I really reallyliked and they went in the first round.
There's a guy named Jonathan Cooper thatwasn't a hit. There's a guy
named Chance Warmack that wasn't a hit. So it's also in an exact science.
Yeah, but I do think it'sinteresting that the highest hit rates are
all the offensive line spots. AndI'm pretty sure the Cowboys are picking an
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offensive lineman. And that can makeyou feel good that, even if it's
not at a premier position, that'sthe balance of the draft. If you're
picking twenty four, I would loveto pick a great pass rusher. I
would love to pick a great widereceiver. I'd love to pick the most
expensive positions and have him be astud. But guys pick those guys earlier,
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and eventually you get to the pointwhere you're like, hey, what
about a less valuable position. Butwe feel really good that he's going to
be good, and that might bewhere the Cowboys are going to end up.
I think there's a decent chance thatthey're going to pick a center with
their first round pick, and you'llfeel pretty good about it, and hopefully
you'll find your next Travis Frederick.But I also hate the second part of
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this is I also hate that theyare so kind of stuck in what they
need, which makes it kind ofpredictable what you're going to do. I
would much rather than they draft thisthing wide open and pick the best player.
A buddy of mine, his nameis Katie Drummond, and he runs
Cowboys Wire for USA Today, andevery year he writes this thing. It's
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called the ten Draft Commandments for theCowboys, and it reminds me of something
that normally you can kind of predictwhat the Cowboys are going to do a
couple of ways. One we knowwhat they need. Right, they don't
have a left tackle, they don'thave a center, they don't have a
running back. They need defensive tacklehelp, they need linebacker help. Normally,
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you can also look at their rosterand go, okay, but who's
going into their last year? Whohas to be replaced a year from now,
because you'll start picking guys to belike, all right, this guy's
gonna be gone. We're going topick a guy and be ready for when
this guy's gone, because you can'tsign everybody. And that brings up way
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more stuff that the Cowboys need.So they don't have a left tackle,
they don't have a center, theydon't have a running back, they don't
have enough defensive tackles, they don'thave enough linebackers. They don't really have
a third wide receiver or a fourthcorner. All those things are important.
Now add in that in most yearsthey would be looking up and go,
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Zach Martin's in the last year hiscontract. We got to get ready for
that. Oh soo, Diggi Zuwa, your only decent defensive tackles in the
last year of his contract. Wegotta get ready for that. Jordan Lewis
is a starting corner he sounded aone year deal. We got to get
ready for that. Tank Lawrence isin the last year of his contract.
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We got to get ready for that. Yeah, and oh, if it's
worth mentioning the quarterbacks in the lastyear of his contract, I don't know
if we have to get ready forthat or if they're going to keep him.
But man, that's a lot,that is a lot, a lot,
a lot. Yeah, that's alot of stuff you need. Now
when you start getting to those guysin the last year. Are they just
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not in position to worry about thatat all right now? Or are they
going to push you to the laterrounds of the draft and maybe do something.
Then. I think they know thesethings and they'll do their best to
address as many things as they can, obviously, But yeah, I just
I think that they have had sucha uneventful and terrible offseason partnered with they
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have signed some bad extensions and notgotten the extensions done with some of their
best players, and they've just putthemselves in such a weird spot that they
haven't been able to do the thingsyou're supposed to do to get ready to
go drafting. And now the numberof things that they need need need is
so high that I don't even thinkyou can draft to get ready for later.
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I think that they are probably infor two years. Yeah, of
hope that god, our superstar playerscan carry this thing. I think they're
in for two years of it.Because they're not on a good run,
the historically good drafting team Cowboys lastfew years. Not really. You don't
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look up and down that roster andgo we can let guys go because we've
drafted so well. You found somestars, you found Parsons and CD and
digs. You hadn't found a bunchof guys. Yeah, you haven't found
dep You need a fourth corner?Why Calvin Joseph and Nashan Wright at Eric
Scott and all these guys that you'vepicked. Offensive line is in shambles.
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All right, Let's go back tothe guys that they've picked recently. See
any hits Tyler Smith. They doit good in the first round, but
outside of that, not really.They're not ready for what they're gonna do
in so many different places, andit's not good. It's not good.
The way they're doing things right nowreminds me of like sometimes how you feel
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in life when there's just way toomany like balls up in the air that
you just have to try to ignoreeverything and go do something totally different.
Just take a nap. Yeah,I'm just gonna go take a nap,
or I'm just gonna go, youknow, workout or whatever and just not
think about this as long as Ican. I feel like that's their office.
I do think that there's an elementof that, like they're throwing up
their hands because they're looking at themselvesand they're going, like Jerry said at
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their pre draft press conference, Iwant to see more action. I want
to see more leaves fall. Whenasked about why they haven't gotten deals done
with CD or Micah or Dak,it's like, right, but those are
the right Domino's fall leaves. Yeah, he wants to see more leaves fall.
Knows what to do. I thinkhe meant like more dominant. It's
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essentially essentially he's saying, like,I just need to they need to prove
it, and it's like, no, Michael Parsons has nothing to prove ceede
Lamb has nothing to prove uh,Dak. We could debate it, but
yeah, who needs to prove it? It's like, why do you need
more leaves? The Detroit Lions todaysigned their wide receiver Amen Ross Saint Brown
thirty million dollars a year. Theyjust signed him to that contract. Every
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guy that signs like that is justthe price tag on Ceede Lamb going up,
And honestly, there's maybe nothing thatcan do about it right now,
because they could call and be like, hey, we want to make you
a fair offer, and he mightbe like, absolutely not. You guys
like last year you had a shotat that, But now I'm closer to
free agency. Justin Jefferson's going tosign soon, Jamore Chase is gonna sign
soon. I'm enjoying watching what's happeningnow. You should have done last year,
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And the same thing's gonna happen withMichael Parsons. They can extend him
right now, and the number thatwould get it done, go look up
Nick Bosa or t J. Water, whoever signed last at a million a
year. He'll sign it. Butwhat they do is they get gunshy.
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And the reason they're gunshy doesn't evenline up with the guys we're talking about.
The reason that they are gunshy isTerrence Steele, Michael Gallup, Zeke
Elliott, Jalen Smith, because that'spart of where they are now. They've
got all They've got a bunch ofmoney that's about to bite them in the
ass a year from now, andit's because they signed a bunch of bad
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contracts. They've been eating Zeke moneyfor two years. They're eating Gallop money
now and they're gonna eat it againnext year. Terrence Steele is an underperforming
player that they're stuck with. JalenSmith. They had to eat money.
And so all those guys who gotsigned early, they're like, that doesn't
work out for us. We can'tsign them early. The reason those ones
didn't work out is because you signedthe wrong guys. They signed the guys
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that when they call them and they'relike, hey, we're thinking about low
balling you, they're like that soundsgreat. They're like all right, sweet.
And then when those guys underperformed becausethey weren't as good of players,
you're like, see, that's whathappens to us. We can't be doing
that. And it's like, no, this is Ceed Lamb, He's one
the best receivers in football. Thisis Michael Parsons, one of the best
pass rushers in football. We're nottalking about Jalen Smith or Michael Gallup.
But they paralyze themselves and then theywait too long, and then they have
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to pay the very very very topof market and then some and that's where
we are with the best players,and they haven't been on a good run
of signing good contracts and they haven'tbeen on a great run of drafting and
buckle in because they got to nailthis one. Yet we're all in.
They got it. Jerry said itagain and he said, we're all in
on this draft. So really whathe means is we're all in on whatever
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I'm doing right this second, LikeI'm all in on this hot dog.
Yeah, I'm all in on thispress conference. Turn out some all in
T shirts, I bet, andeveryone's gonna buy him. Then he's gonna
make money off of the dumb thinghe said that he shouldn't have said.
I think somebody probably had all inT shirts last year, and Jerry saw
it and he's like, that's acool slogan. Yeah, I bet that.
Yeah, use this with the withthe leering press. But we're gonna
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go drafting tomorrow and we're gonna tryto find good players, and then they're
going to have a whole bunch ofdraft picks next year, and they're going
to clear out their moneys and we'regonna try to be the best team ever.
So we'll try, We're gonna giveit a shot. We'll see you
tomorrow. That's Jeff's bucket of crapuh coming up. Next we go Hollywood
swinging jewels. What you got.Don't you love a good meltdown. I'll
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