November 29, 2023 • 23 mins
Jeff is out today, so TC joins us! When TC was deciding whether to propose, there was only one person he asked about it…Rhynes! When was the last time you went to the library and checked out a book?
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Here we go, here we go, here we go. Look at us,
Hey, look at us, Lookat us. Who would have thought
not me? Two oh five isour time. That is five minutes past
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two pm Central Standard time. Accordingto the Tower of the Friendly Mercantile.
Your tuner is set to ninety sevenone the freak and this is the speakeasy,
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warmest greetings to one and all.It is Wednesday, the twenty ninth
of November, and we are standingby and prepared to edify you in that
way that we do for the nextfour hour. Now you may be asking
yourself, okay, who are thesepeople? Well, I am Mike Rener,
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and with us today is Julie Dobbs. Howdy over at the helm there
is Shoopy Hello. Now, normallywe have one Jeff kavanav featured very very
prominently in this presentation, but thatis under normal times, and today these
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are not normal times because he hasturned his back on us once again in
that way that he will do,and we're expected to just put up with
it, deal with it, becausehe's carrying this whole thing. Hey,
he knows it, We know it, The American people know it. Yeah,
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that's true. But he is nothere. So in the spirit of
worrying about those who are here andnot those who are not, let us
rise face the north and salute theteal tone Turtle. TC Fleming, thanks
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so much for having me. ThinkJeff's looking for love right. He seems
to be. You know, I'venever really had that kind of conversation with
him. It was kind of afather figure. I think you ought to,
oh, father figure. Well,I don't think he sees me that
way. His his dad is verymuch with us. Yeah, well,
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my dad's alive. But this isa true story. When it came time
for me to decide whether or notto propose, I sought the counsel of
only one man, Mike Reiner.Absolutely, I don't remember this. It
was kind of a casual conversation.I didn't really need set up a dinner
and no. We were in ameeting room, you know, kind of
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his show hadn't kicked off yet,and I was walking through and I was
like, you know, what doyou think And he's like, let me
try and remember exactly how it wasput uh, something along the lines of
like it's it's hard to live withthem and it's hard to live without them,
and you just have to figure outwhich one of those you're are willing
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to live with. Yeah, thecounsel, I would say that that's very
much in keeping with something I mighthave said, although I do not remember
this conversation. No, I'm jokinga little bit to the way that I
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did. No, it happened.It happened. I did find a valuable
counsel one hundred percent. Yeah,yeah, it's but it's not the kind
of thing that you would remember yearslater. It was a two minute Hey
man, what'd you think about wheneveryou were approaching this only person that you
asked? I mean, how manypeople do you really need that? Like
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the idea, it's a big decision. I could see asking it's a big
decision, but like you should thinkabout it a lot yourself, and I
did. But how many other peopledo you need to think about it?
For you? Like, they're notgonna be able to tell you whether or
not you love your perspective partner.You can answer that for yourself, just
you and only you and Mike Reiner. Uh huh. Yeah, they're only
able to give you very very limitedoutside council. Yeah, in the endgame,
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it's something you've got to decide foryourself, and nobody can make that
call for you. So therefore Iwould say I was at best a very
very tangential character in this. Butyou could still play a big part in
Jeff's future marital situation. I thinkit's the time for you to step in.
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Yeah, it'll be interesting if Jeffever gets to that point with a
lady where he's thinking about proposing,because the man tells everything going on in
his life to all of the peoplelistening to our show, so we'll all
get we'll talk through it together.I wish I had that gift. Yeah,
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I wish I could do that,but I just can't. I was
on for four hours last week andfound out that he had a flashlight,
So I think I get what you'resaying when you say something. Yesterday,
I see ring that he left outall these things that I didn't I never
knew about, and I was fine. I was just fine not knowing about
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any of them. Really, lifewas kind of better then. And then
I'm like, you know what,I think I'll I should probably get a
job, And how about this jobwhere I'm doing radio. I've done that
before. Okay, you want meto work with this guy. Never heard
of him. I've heard of him, but I don't know him very well.
What's this going to be like?And here we are? Nah?
I think that kind of honesty andtransparency is admirable. I do too.
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Yeah, like I say, Iwish I could do it. Yeah,
it's admirable. What's your secret?Min? Oh wow, I'll never tell.
What have you been holding back?The most lots? I'm not like
that. I'm not terribly transparent.When I was twenty three, I smashed
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a small filipeanut boy over there witha rock. Oh no, I don't
kidding. I didn't do that.That's okay, very very good. So
TC for like, we know youquite well. But for people that might
be tuning in that don't know you, sure tell us a little bit about
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TC. We know you're married nowbecause yeah, because you said you proposed
you're just gonna have to listen toevery hour of podcasting I've ever done.
That's that's how to answer that question. I don't I don't mean, I
don't presume that anyone's going to goAnd I don't know how to answer any
of those questions. You know,like usually people say their job. I
don't have one. You know,where do they say how many you know,
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like their family? I have akid, You have a kid that's
important. Your kid she's four four. Let's say that somebody did want to
know everything about you that's out there, and if they were going to make
it their mission and to listen toevery bit of broadcasting or podcasting you've ever
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done. How many podcasts does doesthat entail? We recently on the on
the main we crossed the thousand episodemark a couple of weeks ago. So
north of a thousand episodes. Wow, that's good. I can I can
barely stand the thought of living fora thousand days. You might not have
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to worry about Yeah I might not. I might not, But but doing
anything that much is just to thatlittle fanfair tale is just an absolute mind
blow for me. Now, Ilove it. I love any of this
kind of thought, you know,like i'd I did a podcast called Life
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Skills. If anyone I think,I mean, I don't know, I
don't mean the short change any ofthem. But uh, I love all
my my podcast babies. But Ihad a very interesting high school experience.
Is kind of like it was arehab. It was a school for bad
kids. It was whatever, youknow, and uh, back in the
I did like to do. Istill you're still a pretty big fan of
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bad things. It's still fun.And uh I found out, you know,
a decade after that, that oneof my good friends, uh during
that time at the school had movedto Dallas, and so we you know,
started hanging out and we did abunch of episodes explaining that experience.
I forget exactly where I was goingwith this, but I just that was
that's what experience, the experience ofmoving to Dallas or of going to the
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school. Could just describe what theschool was like, the crazy things that
happened there, that sort of stuffthat was called life skills. I had
some other point whenever I was startingthe sentence, but I don't remember what
it is. Now, talking aboutthe various podcasts, I think, yeah,
yeah, well that's cool. Well, we're glad to have you.
I was a little jealous when youfilled in for me last week. Sounded
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like fun people like you. Yeah, that's awesome. We need we need
a bench, we need this.This is good. I didn't say that
groovy sounded like you did. Yeah, I said bench. No, that
didn't sound like mint bench. Tome, she said, bench, Yeah,
he knew what I said. II don't know. I was hearing
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that pretty strong tea in there,But what do I know? I've never
called TC that, but a lotof people tell me that based on what
you did, based on your finework that you turned in when you were
last in here with us, theynow view you differently. That's wonderful.
Yeah, seems to lightly imply anegative review recently, but I can accept
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that. Well, negative reviews somewherealong the line, but their their eyes,
you've turned the thing around. Yeah. I haven't always been in love
with me either. That's fine,that's good. That's great to hear I've
turned it around. Are you fullof self hate? No? I'm on
a journey of self improvement. Butyou know, I think, yeah,
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anyone looks back at ten years agosees the mistakes they were making, it'd
be weird if you didn't. Itwould meant that you hadn't grown and corrected
them. Yeah, Mike, areyou still? Are you still on a
journey of self improvement? I thinkI've gone probably about as far down that
road as I possibly cann There's alwaysmore progress available, do you think Do
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you think I should do. Whatdo you think my next step toward that
end should be? You know,I don't know that if you got to
hit on the Golden Bachelor. Yeah, I think that would help. I
think that would do a lot.I am very interested. Like I,
I don't actually go to that muchtherapy, but I'm I think it's good
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and I've I've got a positive opinionof the ideas therein And uh, I
don't you just strike me as aguy you probably has never stepped inside in
the office. I'm interested. Haveyou had any experience and would you be
open to it in the future.First blush answers are no and no.
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Yeah, I don't know. IfI gave it some thought, then I
probably could be brought around. It'sjust like anything where the details are very
very important. There's a lot ofbad therapists out there. There's a lot
of very good therapists out there,and if you get a bad one,
it's probably a waste of your time. I can't imagine getting anything. Yeah,
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I mean there's wise people out there. Uh. Jonah Hill did a
documentary with his therapist that's on Netflix. I think that he's a therapist to
the stars. So maybe you couldstart there. Wow, watch it.
I think I'm a little bit lowlevel for him. Well not, I
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don't know that he would take youon an appointment. But you could watch
the documentary and get an idea ofwhat his what he's got to bring.
And if you like that, thenyou can start from there. See if
there's a hymn of Dallas that's available. See that's another great thing about you.
You know about all these obscure documentariesthat I know nothing about. I
do love documentaries. I love watchingstuff. You have done just about everything,
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haven't you? Pretty much? Notin the context of you mean,
but yeah, I guess how doyou know what context? I know what?
That's the referencing oh Man Tiger Woods. Being impressed by the experience of
all. Let's find out what's onmy will the same say? What's on
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today? Mike's mind is fueled byCelsius Essential Energy Drinks. Well, thank
you, Celsius Essential Energy Drinks.Let's go around the horn here with a
little question for everybody. When wasthe last time you went to the library
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and, through traditional means and traditionalmethods, checked out a book. Mine
was actually not too long ago.We moved to the library somewhat often with
the kids. Yeah, children's bookdoesn't count. Oh well, then never,
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maybe not never, but a reallylong time ago. While you're in
the library and they're goofing around withthe kid's books, you don't take a
look through some of the shelves andsee what's there. Nothing. Ever,
I don't really grabs you. Idon't. There was a time I don't
know, five or so years agowhere I bought books pretended like I would
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read them. Yeah, I've donethat too. Yeah, I just never
find the time to sit around andopen up a book and read. It's
hard. I just finished one acouple of weeks ago. Now I'm looking
to start my next one. Lookat you. I try to keep one
going all the time, but ittakes a long time to get through them.
Yeah, it's a project. Whatwas your most recent? Cornflakes with
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John Lennon by Robert Hilburn? Whatwas it about? Robert Hilburn is a
very, very decorated music writer forthe Los Angeles Times. He's one of
those guys who has been in thegame for so long and is so prolific
and so significant that what he saysmatters to all these people and if he
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wants somebody to sit down with himand talk to him, he makes that
happen. And it doesn't matter whoit is. You can go as big
as you might want. And chancesare going to be pretty good that they
will know him by name, andthat he has interviewed them at least once.
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Some of them might consider him afriend. And he wrote a book
of his memoirs not too long ago. That's cool, And it was titled
this because one day he was hangingout over at John Lennon's and they had
corn flakes together. Wow, that'scool. That was my last one.
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But I finished that last week andnow I don't know what's next. Did
you know you mentioned cornflakes and Iam the Walrus? Yes, he did.
Do you know the line? Idon't. He liked cornflakes and thick
cream? Yeah, he did.What was his treat that he enjoyed?
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Yes, sounds kind of grown andice cream with rice crispies. They used
to have a rice crispy cereal.I definitely, as an adult, acquired
Dallas Public Library card and checked outa book, but it was long enough
ago. I don't remember what bookit was. There's probably kept the card
active. I think I would haveto renew, which comes up a lot
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because I'll take the kid to libraryand she's not she doesn't really want the
books, but she'll think that shedoes sometimes, I mean, whatever she
goes with my mom, she'll checkout a bunch of books, but she's
got enough books, so she's alwaysShe'll sometimes be like, I want this
one, and I'll be like,well, I'll probably have to renew my
card. I guess I could doit at the desk, and by that
point she's lost all life for usand just agrees to leave. Well.
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I bring this up because of thisstory that I found, and I've read
it over and over again, andeach time I read it, I just
go, man, that's crazy.There's a book called Famous Composers, and
it features tales of the likes ofBach Mozart. And this book turned up
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not too long ago in Saint Paul, Minnesota. Somebody had checked it out
and they finally brought it back tothe library there. Now you may think,
Okay, that's cool story, bro, and well here's the end.
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The library checkout slip shows that thisbook was last borrowed in nineteen nineteen.
According to Minnesota public Radio. LikeI say, it's titled Famous Composers and
tells tales of Bach, Mozart andthe like. And this book turned up
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while someone was sorting through a relativesbelongings and apparently it had been there ever
since. The library, like manyacross the country, stopped charging late fees
in twenty nineteen. But they broughtthis back. They brought this book back
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to the library and it is therein the Saint Paul Public Library. If
anybody wants to check it out,that's nice. They did the right thing.
Yeah, and there will be themayor of Saint Paul, apparently a
part time mayor, part time I'mhumorist, joked in a tweet that there
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would be no fine for levied againstit. Now, the future of the
book is uncertain. The public Library'sdigital library coordinator, one John Larson,
also the name of a program directorwho fired me once Oh, said he
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doubted it will go back into circulationbecause of its delicate condition, but did
expect that the library would hang onto it. He said, it's reached
a point where it's not just anold book, it's an artifact. It
has a little bit of history toit. He said in his twenty five
years of lurking or working for thelibrary and lurking at the library. It's
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the oldest book he ever saw returned. Wow, it is really hard to
remember to return your library books.It's difficult. They just get in the
mix of all the other books inyour house and go on with your life.
And you know, it's not likesuper pressing. You know, you're
not gonna go to jail. They'renot going to come to your door and
rest you. Yeah. Late mightbe what seven fifty or something much.
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Yeah, I'm really bad at it. What's the world record you think for
most overdue library book? I betthis is it. Yeah, you familiar
with the the rarities held at theDallas Public Library. No, they have
an original copy of the Declaration ofIndependence. Really yeah, Yeah, it's
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in like that big like the CentralLibrary downtown across from City Hall. I
think it's like the sixth or seventhfloor. If you go up there,
it's got its own little room.I think there's also a the original copy
now whatever they obviously there's like theone that Jefferson wrote. You know,
it's not that that's the National Archivesin DC. But they they ran off,
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you know, like that day theymade like ten copies. You know,
I think someone else, maybe Jefferson, but probably like some kind of
intern just sort of took down,you know, made just rewrote the whole
thing. And there was a bookstorein Philadelphia that closed in the eighties,
nineties something like that, and ithad been continuously operating since the seventeen hundreds,
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and whenever they were cleaning it out, they found one of those copies
that they had made that day,you know, July fourth, seventeen seventy
six. And they didn't know whatthey do. I don't think they had
a xerox yet. I think itwas probably just someone writing it by hand.
Again wow, But yeah, theydidn't know what to do with it.
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Say, they just auctioned it off. And there was a group of
Dallas businessman. The list of thingsthat people in Dallas like the important people
here like this will put us onthe map. It's a hilarious list every
time. And their big idea wasif we had a copy of the Declaration
Independence here, then those folks inNew York would stop laughing at us.
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Perhaps that was the motive. Soyeah, they spent you know, a
million dollars towards that end, andeveryone kept on laughing at them. They
laughed harder, in fact. That'sfun. What an interesting tidbit. And
we'll have more on prominent Dallas ofbusinessmen coming up next in Julie's Sports Desk
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and the book Famous Composers as well. Oh yeah, yeah, it was
a really big day and night foryour Dallas mavericks. More on that next
Here we go, here we go, here we go. Look at us,
Hey, look at us, Lookat us. Who would have thought
not me? Two oh five isour time. That is five minutes past
(00:56):
two pm Central Standard time. Accordingto the Tower of the Friendly Mercantile.
Your tuner is set to ninety sevenone the freak and this is the speakeasy,
(01:19):
warmest greetings to one and all.It is Wednesday, the twenty ninth
of November, and we are standingby and prepared to edify you in that
way that we do for the nextfour hour. Now you may be asking
yourself, okay, who are thesepeople? Well, I am Mike Rener,
(01:46):
and with us today is Julie Dobbs. Howdy over at the helm there
is Shoopy Hello. Now, normallywe have one Jeff kavanav featured very very
prominently in this presentation, but thatis under normal times, and today these
(02:08):
are not normal times because he hasturned his back on us once again in
that way that he will do,and we're expected to just put up with
it, deal with it, becausehe's carrying this whole thing. Hey,
he knows it, We know it, The American people know it. Yeah,
(02:30):
that's true. But he is nothere. So in the spirit of
worrying about those who are here andnot those who are not, let us
rise face the north and salute theteal tone Turtle. TC Fleming, thanks
(02:53):
so much for having me. ThinkJeff's looking for love right. He seems
to be. You know, I'venever really had that kind of conversation with
him. It was kind of afather figure. I think you ought to,
oh, father figure. Well,I don't think he sees me that
way. His his dad is verymuch with us. Yeah, well,
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my dad's alive. But this isa true story. When it came time
for me to decide whether or notto propose, I sought the counsel of
only one man, Mike Reiner.Absolutely, I don't remember this. It
was kind of a casual conversation.I didn't really need set up a dinner
and no. We were in ameeting room, you know, kind of
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his show hadn't kicked off yet,and I was walking through and I was
like, you know, what doyou think And he's like, let me
try and remember exactly how it wasput uh, something along the lines of
like it's it's hard to live withthem and it's hard to live without them,
and you just have to figure outwhich one of those you're are willing
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to live with. Yeah, thecounsel, I would say that that's very
much in keeping with something I mighthave said, although I do not remember
this conversation. No, I'm jokinga little bit to the way that I
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did. No, it happened.It happened. I did find a valuable
counsel one hundred percent. Yeah,yeah, it's but it's not the kind
of thing that you would remember yearslater. It was a two minute Hey
man, what'd you think about wheneveryou were approaching this only person that you
asked? I mean, how manypeople do you really need that? Like
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the idea, it's a big decision. I could see asking it's a big
decision, but like you should thinkabout it a lot yourself, and I
did. But how many other peopledo you need to think about it?
For you? Like, they're notgonna be able to tell you whether or
not you love your perspective partner.You can answer that for yourself, just
you and only you and Mike Reiner. Uh huh. Yeah, they're only
able to give you very very limitedoutside council. Yeah, in the endgame,
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it's something you've got to decide foryourself, and nobody can make that
call for you. So therefore Iwould say I was at best a very
very tangential character in this. Butyou could still play a big part in
Jeff's future marital situation. I thinkit's the time for you to step in.
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Yeah, it'll be interesting if Jeffever gets to that point with a
lady where he's thinking about proposing,because the man tells everything going on in
his life to all of the peoplelistening to our show, so we'll all
get we'll talk through it together.I wish I had that gift. Yeah,
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I wish I could do that,but I just can't. I was
on for four hours last week andfound out that he had a flashlight,
So I think I get what you'resaying when you say something. Yesterday,
I see ring that he left outall these things that I didn't I never
knew about, and I was fine. I was just fine not knowing about
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any of them. Really, lifewas kind of better then. And then
I'm like, you know what,I think I'll I should probably get a
job, And how about this jobwhere I'm doing radio. I've done that
before. Okay, you want meto work with this guy. Never heard
of him. I've heard of him, but I don't know him very well.
What's this going to be like?And here we are? Nah?
I think that kind of honesty andtransparency is admirable. I do too.
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Yeah, like I say, Iwish I could do it. Yeah,
it's admirable. What's your secret?Min? Oh wow, I'll never tell.
What have you been holding back?The most lots? I'm not like
that. I'm not terribly transparent.When I was twenty three, I smashed
(06:58):
a small filipeanut boy over there witha rock. Oh no, I don't
kidding. I didn't do that.That's okay, very very good. So
TC for like, we know youquite well. But for people that might
be tuning in that don't know you, sure tell us a little bit about
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TC. We know you're married nowbecause yeah, because you said you proposed
you're just gonna have to listen toevery hour of podcasting I've ever done.
That's that's how to answer that question. I don't I don't mean, I
don't presume that anyone's going to goAnd I don't know how to answer any
of those questions. You know,like usually people say their job. I
don't have one. You know,where do they say how many you know,
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like their family? I have akid, You have a kid that's
important. Your kid she's four four. Let's say that somebody did want to
know everything about you that's out there, and if they were going to make
it their mission and to listen toevery bit of broadcasting or podcasting you've ever
(08:03):
done. How many podcasts does doesthat entail? We recently on the on
the main we crossed the thousand episodemark a couple of weeks ago. So
north of a thousand episodes. Wow, that's good. I can I can
barely stand the thought of living fora thousand days. You might not have
(08:28):
to worry about Yeah I might not. I might not, But but doing
anything that much is just to thatlittle fanfair tale is just an absolute mind
blow for me. Now, Ilove it. I love any of this
kind of thought, you know,like i'd I did a podcast called Life
(08:52):
Skills. If anyone I think,I mean, I don't know, I
don't mean the short change any ofthem. But uh, I love all
my my podcast babies. But Ihad a very interesting high school experience.
Is kind of like it was arehab. It was a school for bad
kids. It was whatever, youknow, and uh, back in the
I did like to do. Istill you're still a pretty big fan of
(09:13):
bad things. It's still fun.And uh I found out, you know,
a decade after that, that oneof my good friends, uh during
that time at the school had movedto Dallas, and so we you know,
started hanging out and we did abunch of episodes explaining that experience.
I forget exactly where I was goingwith this, but I just that was
that's what experience, the experience ofmoving to Dallas or of going to the
(09:37):
school. Could just describe what theschool was like, the crazy things that
happened there, that sort of stuffthat was called life skills. I had
some other point whenever I was startingthe sentence, but I don't remember what
it is. Now, talking aboutthe various podcasts, I think, yeah,
yeah, well that's cool. Well, we're glad to have you.
I was a little jealous when youfilled in for me last week. Sounded
(09:58):
like fun people like you. Yeah, that's awesome. We need we need
a bench, we need this.This is good. I didn't say that
groovy sounded like you did. Yeah, I said bench. No, that
didn't sound like mint bench. Tome, she said, bench, Yeah,
he knew what I said. II don't know. I was hearing
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that pretty strong tea in there,But what do I know? I've never
called TC that, but a lotof people tell me that based on what
you did, based on your finework that you turned in when you were
last in here with us, theynow view you differently. That's wonderful.
Yeah, seems to lightly imply anegative review recently, but I can accept
(10:45):
that. Well, negative reviews somewherealong the line, but their their eyes,
you've turned the thing around. Yeah. I haven't always been in love
with me either. That's fine,that's good. That's great to hear I've
turned it around. Are you fullof self hate? No? I'm on
a journey of self improvement. Butyou know, I think, yeah,
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anyone looks back at ten years agosees the mistakes they were making, it'd
be weird if you didn't. Itwould meant that you hadn't grown and corrected
them. Yeah, Mike, areyou still? Are you still on a
journey of self improvement? I thinkI've gone probably about as far down that
road as I possibly cann There's alwaysmore progress available, do you think Do
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you think I should do. Whatdo you think my next step toward that
end should be? You know,I don't know that if you got to
hit on the Golden Bachelor. Yeah, I think that would help. I
think that would do a lot.I am very interested. Like I,
I don't actually go to that muchtherapy, but I'm I think it's good
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and I've I've got a positive opinionof the ideas therein And uh, I
don't you just strike me as aguy you probably has never stepped inside in
the office. I'm interested. Haveyou had any experience and would you be
open to it in the future.First blush answers are no and no.
(12:16):
Yeah, I don't know. IfI gave it some thought, then I
probably could be brought around. It'sjust like anything where the details are very
very important. There's a lot ofbad therapists out there. There's a lot
of very good therapists out there,and if you get a bad one,
it's probably a waste of your time. I can't imagine getting anything. Yeah,
(12:37):
I mean there's wise people out there. Uh. Jonah Hill did a
documentary with his therapist that's on Netflix. I think that he's a therapist to
the stars. So maybe you couldstart there. Wow, watch it.
I think I'm a little bit lowlevel for him. Well not, I
(12:58):
don't know that he would take youon an appointment. But you could watch
the documentary and get an idea ofwhat his what he's got to bring.
And if you like that, thenyou can start from there. See if
there's a hymn of Dallas that's available. See that's another great thing about you.
You know about all these obscure documentariesthat I know nothing about. I
do love documentaries. I love watchingstuff. You have done just about everything,
(13:20):
haven't you? Pretty much? Notin the context of you mean,
but yeah, I guess how doyou know what context? I know what?
That's the referencing oh Man Tiger Woods. Being impressed by the experience of
all. Let's find out what's onmy will the same say? What's on
(13:54):
today? Mike's mind is fueled byCelsius Essential Energy Drinks. Well, thank
you, Celsius Essential Energy Drinks.Let's go around the horn here with a
little question for everybody. When wasthe last time you went to the library
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and, through traditional means and traditionalmethods, checked out a book. Mine
was actually not too long ago.We moved to the library somewhat often with
the kids. Yeah, children's bookdoesn't count. Oh well, then never,
(14:50):
maybe not never, but a reallylong time ago. While you're in
the library and they're goofing around withthe kid's books, you don't take a
look through some of the shelves andsee what's there. Nothing. Ever,
I don't really grabs you. Idon't. There was a time I don't
know, five or so years agowhere I bought books pretended like I would
(15:11):
read them. Yeah, I've donethat too. Yeah, I just never
find the time to sit around andopen up a book and read. It's
hard. I just finished one acouple of weeks ago. Now I'm looking
to start my next one. Lookat you. I try to keep one
going all the time, but ittakes a long time to get through them.
Yeah, it's a project. Whatwas your most recent? Cornflakes with
(15:35):
John Lennon by Robert Hilburn? Whatwas it about? Robert Hilburn is a
very, very decorated music writer forthe Los Angeles Times. He's one of
those guys who has been in thegame for so long and is so prolific
and so significant that what he saysmatters to all these people and if he
(16:00):
wants somebody to sit down with himand talk to him, he makes that
happen. And it doesn't matter whoit is. You can go as big
as you might want. And chancesare going to be pretty good that they
will know him by name, andthat he has interviewed them at least once.
(16:25):
Some of them might consider him afriend. And he wrote a book
of his memoirs not too long ago. That's cool, And it was titled
this because one day he was hangingout over at John Lennon's and they had
corn flakes together. Wow, that'scool. That was my last one.
(16:45):
But I finished that last week andnow I don't know what's next. Did
you know you mentioned cornflakes and Iam the Walrus? Yes, he did.
Do you know the line? Idon't. He liked cornflakes and thick
cream? Yeah, he did.What was his treat that he enjoyed?
(17:07):
Yes, sounds kind of grown andice cream with rice crispies. They used
to have a rice crispy cereal.I definitely, as an adult, acquired
Dallas Public Library card and checked outa book, but it was long enough
ago. I don't remember what bookit was. There's probably kept the card
active. I think I would haveto renew, which comes up a lot
(17:33):
because I'll take the kid to libraryand she's not she doesn't really want the
books, but she'll think that shedoes sometimes, I mean, whatever she
goes with my mom, she'll checkout a bunch of books, but she's
got enough books, so she's alwaysShe'll sometimes be like, I want this
one, and I'll be like,well, I'll probably have to renew my
card. I guess I could doit at the desk, and by that
point she's lost all life for usand just agrees to leave. Well.
(17:59):
I bring this up because of thisstory that I found, and I've read
it over and over again, andeach time I read it, I just
go, man, that's crazy.There's a book called Famous Composers, and
it features tales of the likes ofBach Mozart. And this book turned up
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not too long ago in Saint Paul, Minnesota. Somebody had checked it out
and they finally brought it back tothe library there. Now you may think,
Okay, that's cool story, bro, and well here's the end.
(18:52):
The library checkout slip shows that thisbook was last borrowed in nineteen nineteen.
According to Minnesota public Radio. LikeI say, it's titled Famous Composers and
tells tales of Bach, Mozart andthe like. And this book turned up
(19:17):
while someone was sorting through a relativesbelongings and apparently it had been there ever
since. The library, like manyacross the country, stopped charging late fees
in twenty nineteen. But they broughtthis back. They brought this book back
(19:40):
to the library and it is therein the Saint Paul Public Library. If
anybody wants to check it out,that's nice. They did the right thing.
Yeah, and there will be themayor of Saint Paul, apparently a
part time mayor, part time I'mhumorist, joked in a tweet that there
(20:03):
would be no fine for levied againstit. Now, the future of the
book is uncertain. The public Library'sdigital library coordinator, one John Larson,
also the name of a program directorwho fired me once Oh, said he
(20:26):
doubted it will go back into circulationbecause of its delicate condition, but did
expect that the library would hang onto it. He said, it's reached
a point where it's not just anold book, it's an artifact. It
has a little bit of history toit. He said in his twenty five
years of lurking or working for thelibrary and lurking at the library. It's
(20:48):
the oldest book he ever saw returned. Wow, it is really hard to
remember to return your library books.It's difficult. They just get in the
mix of all the other books inyour house and go on with your life.
And you know, it's not likesuper pressing. You know, you're
not gonna go to jail. They'renot going to come to your door and
rest you. Yeah. Late mightbe what seven fifty or something much.
(21:12):
Yeah, I'm really bad at it. What's the world record you think for
most overdue library book? I betthis is it. Yeah, you familiar
with the the rarities held at theDallas Public Library. No, they have
an original copy of the Declaration ofIndependence. Really yeah, Yeah, it's
(21:36):
in like that big like the CentralLibrary downtown across from City Hall. I
think it's like the sixth or seventhfloor. If you go up there,
it's got its own little room.I think there's also a the original copy
now whatever they obviously there's like theone that Jefferson wrote. You know,
it's not that that's the National Archivesin DC. But they they ran off,
(22:00):
you know, like that day theymade like ten copies. You know,
I think someone else, maybe Jefferson, but probably like some kind of
intern just sort of took down,you know, made just rewrote the whole
thing. And there was a bookstorein Philadelphia that closed in the eighties,
nineties something like that, and ithad been continuously operating since the seventeen hundreds,
(22:26):
and whenever they were cleaning it out, they found one of those copies
that they had made that day,you know, July fourth, seventeen seventy
six. And they didn't know whatthey do. I don't think they had
a xerox yet. I think itwas probably just someone writing it by hand.
Again wow, But yeah, theydidn't know what to do with it.
(22:47):
Say, they just auctioned it off. And there was a group of
Dallas businessman. The list of thingsthat people in Dallas like the important people
here like this will put us onthe map. It's a hilarious list every
time. And their big idea wasif we had a copy of the Declaration
Independence here, then those folks inNew York would stop laughing at us.
(23:07):
Perhaps that was the motive. Soyeah, they spent you know, a
million dollars towards that end, andeveryone kept on laughing at them. They
laughed harder, in fact. That'sfun. What an interesting tidbit. And
we'll have more on prominent Dallas ofbusinessmen coming up next in Julie's Sports Desk
(23:29):
and the book Famous Composers as well. Oh yeah, yeah, it was
a really big day and night foryour Dallas mavericks. More on that next
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