September 11, 2025 • 23 mins
An extremely emotional day, today!
The assassination of Charlie Kirk has captivated the world. We focused on the father, the son and the husband!
We caught up with Jill, who lost her father on 9-11 in the World Trade Center.
The assassination of Charlie Kirk has captivated the world. We focused on the father, the son and the husband!
We caught up with Jill, who lost her father on 9-11 in the World Trade Center.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yesterday, Charlie Kirk, a political speaker but also a father,
a son, and a husband of one, was assassinated for
his belief somebody disagreed with him and chose to not
say a word but instead shoot a shot. Yesterday. It
was the first video that I saw when I got
up out of an app. A friend of mine sent
it to me on Snapchat and I watched it and
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it was a two second clip, so it wasn't enough
time for me to even walk away. And I wish
my eyes hadn't seen it, but it did, and I
started to think about a man like Charlie Kirk, whether
you agree with him politically or not, gave his time
every single time he was out in public, gave his attention,
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gave his platform to people who vehemently hate him and
disagree with him. And if you heard some of the
things that people would say to him in public on
a microphone, but also behind the scenes, the threats that
he and his family received, the things that people would
say about his kids, you would think most people would
pack it up, they wouldn't show up the next day,
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but not him, and he still gave everybody a platform
out of discussion. He wanted to make sure that people
were having a conversation. And I was floored yesterday because
that's what the world needs, you know, when we get
so far away from one another, that's what the world needs.
You think about relationships, and you think about marriages. One
of the biggest reasons why marriages fail and end in
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divorce is communication. People stop talking to one another. You
work with somebody and they stopped talking to you, that's
when bad things happen. Communications needed. You don't always have
to agree, but you have to have those communications. And
I was so saddened yesterday to know that a son
of Christ, a father of two, a husband of one
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lost his life because someone disagreed with him and was
too much of a coward to speak up.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
You know, you're absolutely right, and I immediately. We actually
had previous plan last night to spend some time with
two of the tiny humans, the youngest ones. And you know,
one of their parents is out of town right now,
their mom is out of town. And just so innocently
Emma asked, she said, you know, when is my mommy
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coming home? And I said tomorrow. She'll be home tomorrow,
And that hit me like a ton of bricks. Because
Charlie's wife was having to have conversations where she's having
to tell her kids that he isn't coming home. And
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it's scary. You know, everybody hears me talk about these
tiny humans that I have the privilege to get to love,
and it's so scary to think they're going to grow
up in a world where there's so much hate for
people and a lot of it comes down to you
just don't agree with their opinions. And it just broke
my heart last night. And even Emma at one point
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she said she looked at me and she said, what's
wrong because she could tell that I was crying. But
it's like, I'm I'm not a parent, but I do
get to leave these tiny humans, and I can't fathom
having to have a conversation like that with one of them.
I just I can't and talk.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
About that situation. You know, you have tiny humans. You're
not faced with those questions and you get that question
and you feel like I want to tell you, but
it's also not my place. I'm not your parent. I
don't know what they want you to know right now.
Right kids younger and younger have access to information that
you and I as kids did not have that my
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parents did not have, and it's got to put you
in a bad spot. I mean, I'd love to hear
from parents who had to have those conversations. Yesterday I
saw a video that just broke my heart. Yesterday. It
was Charlie. He was on a TV show and he
was getting up off the couch and his baby girl
was dressed in this cute little dress. I saw that
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she runs over Todsman. She says, Daddy, I'm not a father,
but those words. Hearing Daddy, I'm sure every parent listening
is sitting there going to not hear that again. It
just has to cut you like a knife.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
And what's even beyond that, Spencer is as I was
sitting there, we're at Chick fil A, you know, and
like I said, Emma and Cooper they're they're little, you know,
and we're talking five and almost four, and they're so innocent,
and you want to raise them to stand up for
what they believe in and be able to, you know,
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have confidence that you can do that, and then something
like this happens, and all of a sudden, I find
myself wanting to tell them, no, I don't.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Stand up for anything.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
You know, which is not the way you have to
go about it. But it's just so scary to think
that this is where, you know, the United States isn't
supposed to be a place where you lose your life
because you stand up for what you believe in.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
We stand better with power of positivity. Y'all jump on
with us and just share with us how you shared
with your kids, how you shared with your family and
your friends, how you felt about the situation that unfolded yesterday.
Eight five five Graves zero. Hey, Cole, what's up?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I detended to work this morning.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
What do you do?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I'm a nurse.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
How do you feel after the events yesterday?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
It was terrible?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
You have kids?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I'm just not yes, I.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Did you talk to them? Did you talk to them
about it last night?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
My mattle child, I did because she looked like mama
mama as soonished to get home from school. But it
was very, very disheartening.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
What was that conversation?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I basically just told her, you know, there's a lot
of main people in this world, and it's not like
it used to be. The world is not like it
used to be, for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
It's sad. Yesterday I was I was floored I was devastated.
And I've never even met Charlie. But the main reason
why I was devastated is when anybody gives their time
to other people, to me, that speaks volumes about who
they are. And he was the type of man who
gave his time, his attention, and his platform to people
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who vehemently hated and disagreed with him. And when most
people would be faced with that, they would hear some
negative comments, they would pack it up and they wouldn't
show up the next day. But Charlie did. He continued
to put himself out there in front of people who
didn't like him. And whether you agree with him politically
or not, it's admirable. It's admirable when somebody gives their
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time for understanding so there can be dialogue among two
people who may not see the world.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I die right, and everybody has a choice.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Well, thank you very much. I hate that you had
to have that conversation with your child. I know it's
just a part of life and what happens when you're
raising kids. But I just appreciate you for calling today.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
What's up man? How are you?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
I'm doing good?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Are you doing pretty good? What's your name.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
My name's Alex.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Alex Oh, just like my brother. What's going on, Alex?
Speaker 6 (07:10):
I was just calling in about Charlie kirk Man. He
was a Yeah, he had a very big impact on
my life. And I'm a twenty five year old father
to a two year old and he definitely gave me
some great pointers as I followed him, and he's planning
and see hes the faith in my life. And he
talked about I want to be remembered for his courage
of his faith, and I think he was a good
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testament to that. And I just thought to hear it.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Were you a follower of Christ before Charlie kirk or
did he just reaffirm your faith?
Speaker 6 (07:42):
I mean, I wouldn't say, I mean now that I am,
I wouldn't say that I was, but I mean I
grew up in a Christian home, but just never really clicked.
But he definitely, he definitely made me open my Bible
and talked to God again after I struggled to for so.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Long, you know, and you've probably never met him.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Oh no, no, no, after you know that I'm saying
now that I'm here, No, I didn't, But.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
That's what people have started to forget is the majority
of people that he touched in a very uh poetic way.
They've never even met him, laid eyes on him through
a digital screen, just like all of us really have.
But his impact is so profound. You can hear it
in Alex's voice.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I just I'm sitting here and I'm tearing up as
you talk, Alex, because you know, I obviously I never
met Charlie, but like you, I followed him for years
and just thought he was such a unique individual, somebody
who was willing to stand up, like we've talked about,
you know, for what he believes in. And to hear that,
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you know, I know it's more than just you, Alex,
but to hear from somebody whose faith was reaffirmed by
this person proves exactly what type of person Charlie was
and what type of person he wanted to be remembered as.
And you know, I'm so grateful for Charlie for being
able to do that for you and for so many others,
and it just again, it just breaks my heart for
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people who truly loved and cherish this man, whether you
met him or not.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Alex, you shared with us that you have a two
year old what was it like when you put them
to bed last night?
Speaker 6 (09:21):
Just hugging my son when I got home yesterday and
just that was the first thing me and my wife
talked about, was just his family and the fact that
he has two daughters who have to He was really
you know, he was really proud of the fact that
he was a good father and they don't have a
father anymore. So just gonna be tough to them. And
that's that's the main person that I'm praying for, is
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those two just two daughters.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Alex, God bless you. I wish you nothing but the
best today. And you know, if you're somebody who prays
on a consistent basis and you want to pray for
Charlie and his family, also pray for Alex and his family,
you know, as they're going through this tough time as well.
I'll be thinking about you a lot today. But Alex,
thank you so much for calling the show. Thank you,
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Good morning, Courtney. This is a very sad day. We
were just talking about Charlie Kirk though after the assassination yesterday.
How did you talk to your children about it?
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Well, I have an almost eighteen year old and a
thirteen year old, and I really only talk to my
eighteen year old because she's a senior in high school,
and this is things they talk about.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
How do you tell somebody that a man was killed
because yes.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Of his belief.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
I may not agree with him, but he was a
Christian man who went to college campuses.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
I'm about to send my daughter next year into the
world of college and now I'm like, I have to
do this.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
But because she is also a believer in God so much,
all I tell her is keep your belief and as
long as you believe, you're going to be fine. And
that is what Charlie Kirk was about.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, and the belief of Christianity. You're never walking alone,
even when you feel like you don't see anybody, you
always have God. You always have Jesus with you.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
And that's what I told and that's what I told
her yesterday. I know that if something happened, she said, well,
I'll be with God. And I said, yep, And I said,
that's what this man believed. And there's a senseless, nasty
person that took his life.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Oh, we're going to be thinking about you today, you know.
I'm sure. I'm sure that it's going to be a
heavy day for all of us and for you. Just
keep your head up. Let's use that positivity as power
and try to get through this day as much as
we can.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And love on those babies like I know you will today.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Yes, ma'am, I absolutely will, giving you all the warm
fuzzies and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It's the good good on the Spencer Grave Show. I
don't think we have anybody listening to The Spencer Grave
Show that would admit this, but I love this story
for what it is. Family in Texas is celebrating the
first baby girl in over a century in their family.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I love when I hear stories like this because I
just get excited for I'm like, that is so excited.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Michael Sherman and his wife just found out they're having
a daughter. Michael's side of the family has only had
boys for one hundred and eight years now. I know
people Blair that have had two boys and they went
for a third trying to get a girl and it
turned out to be another boy. I know people that
have had four daughters and they tried for a fifth
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and it turned out to be a daughter. I wonder
if anybody will actually admit to, yes, we tried for
our last child to be a different gender, because I
think if a kid found that out, the kid would
be like, wait a minute, you don't really why you
were just trying.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
No, I think that, I genuinely think that there are
people that will admit this. I mean, let's be honest.
It may be unsaid, but we know what Thomas Wrht
and his wife are doing with his next baby. He
wants that baby boy so bad he can't stand it.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Eight five five Graves zero. Over the last twenty four hours,
the world has seemed very, very, very heavy, and today
is a day that we cannot forget about. September eleventh.
It was this day twenty four years ago when tragedy
struck three different sites in America, the World Trade Center,
a field in Pennsylvania, and the Pentagon. Actually have a
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dear friend, Jill, who lost her father during that and
I just wanted you to kind of share your story
with all of us and Blair, because every year it
feels like people get further and further away from the
remembrance of nine to eleven.
Speaker 8 (13:32):
Well, look, it's been twenty four years and I know
that all too well because I was pregnant at the
time six months pregnant with my daughter. So you know,
I look at her and I can see the span
of time just by looking at her, because I know
where I was that day obviously, and you know twenty
four years later, you know where.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Where are we?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Can you take us back to that day for those
that don't know your story.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Sure, I was at work.
Speaker 8 (13:59):
My co worker came to my office and said that
plans had hit the towers, and I said, you don't.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Know what you're talking about.
Speaker 8 (14:05):
I said, let me call my dad. So I called
my father, who was on the one hundred and fourth
floor of World Trade Center two, which was the second
tower hit but the first tower to collapse, and my
sister was in the building across from him, in three
World Financial. So I had a lot of family downtown,
and I picked up the phone. I called my dad
and couldn't get through.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
So when you called your dad after hearing that the
towers had been hit and he didn't answer the phone,
did you have a sinking feeling or did you still
carry a lot of hope throughout the day.
Speaker 8 (14:38):
I had a sinking feeling that something was seriously wrong.
I mean I heard from my mother at about ten
thirty and That's when I knew things were very dire.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
It was very eerie.
Speaker 8 (14:48):
It was almost like Armageddon.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
It's wild because the world really did stand still. And
I know Alan Jackson is saying about that for the
last twenty three years that he put that song out,
and how it really did feel ominous and very eerie
that day, Blair, we're talking about twenty four years ago.
You were not even ten yet.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I was in elementary school, and I mean, I remember
it like it was yesterday, and from a child's perspective,
I didn't understand the gravity of what had happened. I
was in my fourth grade class, and I just remember
my pe teacher running in and his name was mister Biggs,
running in and miss car Up Cargill and saying the
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towers had been hit. I didn't know what that meant.
The next thing I knew, I was on safety patrol
and they were coming to get us to lower the flag.
And then my sister was coming to check me out
of school because my dad was traveling, and he was
just like, get everybody home, get everybody home. It wasn't
until later that night when my dad got home and
sat us kids down and tried to explain exactly what
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was going on. But I just remember, even as a child,
this sense of everybody was family in our neighborhood that night,
like everybody was coming together. So even as a kid,
I remembered it being different. And by no means am
I saying that I would ever want something like that
to happen again. But I do miss that sense of
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everybody being there for everyone in each and everybody. You
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Well, Jill, you know how much I love you, and
I think about you often, and I certainly think about
you on a daylight today just when you know, I
can't imagine what it's like to lose a parent, and
lose a parent at such a young age, especially when
you're going through a pregnancy at the same exact time.
Speaker 8 (16:34):
Well, I appreciate that. And Blair, you were so right,
not only in your community where you were, but what
we did in our town is we gathered at church
and it was called Mass for the Missing, and we
met every night and had masks for fourteen days until
everybody was accounted for. And I'm going back to church
where we were twenty four years ago to gather with
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the town again, as I have done every single year
with my mom after a visit to ground zero.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Well, thank you Jill for jumping on with us.
Speaker 8 (17:06):
Thank you both, and thank you for just remembering and
for keeping this alive.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Talk to you soon, Okay.
Speaker 8 (17:13):
I love you both.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
By How are you sure?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Hey, buddy? What's going on?
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Man? I just want to tell you, man, I love
what you do. You guys are so good at what
you do. It's it's amazing. You got to laugh. That's
infectious and I love it. Keep doing what you're doing, man, Please.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Thank you. Can you do us a favor because today
has been a very heavy day and we'll continue to
be a very heavy day given the fact that it's
nine to eleven and the events that unfolded yesterday with
Charlie Kirk. Can you just give us a little positivity
in your world? Share with us something that's great going
on with you.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
I've got grandchildren that come and love on me every
day because they need me. You've got people in your
life that need you.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Man.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
We got to keep doing what we're doing because this
is what it's all about.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
It's very true. The positivity side is we were all
given today and hopefully we're all given tomorrow and We're
all here for a very specific reason. And I have
said this and I will shout it from the rooftops.
We're here to help others.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
That is exactly right. And so nine to eleven is
is today. Yes, it'll live in infamy. We know this. Wellether.
You think God's gonna zap you with all these fuzzy
feelings just so you can have love. No, He's going
to give you the opportunity to love. And this is
what He's done for us. So man, we love you,
We love you. We love to show you. Guys got
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to keep doing what you're doing because you bring positivity
to every single one of us.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
We appreciate you, We appreciate the heck Outia, So thank
you very much.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Oh you're welcome, sir.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
It's How country are you? On the Spencer Grave Show. Jenne,
where are you from?
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I'm from Dora.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Shout it out to all our friends listening in Dora
this morning. Jan On a scale of one to country,
how country are you?
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I'm gonna say a six point.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Hi very specific this morning, but why so low, Janna?
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I mean just some days it feel it feel a
little bit country than others to day. I'm feeling six
point five.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Gotcha, not a problem. I got three questions for you.
We'll give you a score at the end of your ready.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
The state of Alabama has a rich history of country
music and other forms of music. What area in the
northwest corner is known most for it?
Speaker 5 (19:26):
North?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I'm bad with directions.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
That's up and over.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
North was up and over, So like the muscle Shouls area.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Good.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Question number two, Share with us a time you fought
with a wild animal.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I fought with a wild animal. I had a cat
up in a tree one time that I had to
get out.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Okay, not really wild, a little more domesticated, but understood
it could be. Maybe it was fair.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
It was wild, It was not my cat, and I'm
very much allergic to him. But I wanted it gone.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So what was the deal? How to get up in
the tree? It ran up there? But then you were
trying to get it out. Why didn't you just leave it?
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Because it was up there yewing and he was sailing.
I couldn't. It needed gone?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
It needed gone. That actually adds a point because that's
a great Southern phrase. Here we go. Final question, what
is your mama always remind you.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Of My mama always remind me of.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah, what does she always remind you of about? She
always brings this story up.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Oh about how when I was little, she one time
got three tickets by when she got pulled over one
because I was not restrained in my cars because I
invoked it myself, and I was also not clothed at
the time. I would not keep my clothes on.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Flags. They hit you with some indecent exposure.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Wow, nothing like mom getting pulled over and getting three
tickets and then always telling you that story. I say, yeah,
six point five. Really love today, You're a seven point nine.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I'll take it.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Today has been a very heavy day nine to eleven,
the assassination of Charlie Kirk. But there are some other
stories that we have shared with you in the last
couple of weeks that now have a close and one
of them is Ella Langley. You know, after she was
in Birmingham at the Coke Cole Amphitheater, she stepped away
from touring for two and a half weeks. Those were
tour dates that she was going to be out on
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the road with Morgan Wallen. She got back out on
the road, and she finally addressed what was going on
with her. What I'm grateful for is the past version
of myself. There's a lot of things that I think about.
I'm like, why, why why that situation here?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Why didn't you say that thing?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
You know, your shower thoughts. You're in there having an
argument and recently in it over my break.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
One of my biggest takeaways from it was I'm so
grateful for her.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I'm so grateful for the the girl.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
That went through those things, went through that situation because
now I'm the woman that I am because of her.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So just now, if you're struggling with something today, God's
doing something in your life that's going to make you
so grateful for the struggles that you went through. That's
such a positive thing from Ella Langley. How she ended
that that if you're going through something, God is such
a positive and powerful part of your life, and you're
never alone when you walk with Jesus Christ. And you
may not be a believer, you might not be somebody
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who goes to church, and this isn't our place to
try to convert you in that way, but it's true.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Just like Ella said, trying to be positive I think
that's the biggest thing we can do. I believe without
knowing Charlie, you know personally, that's what he would want
us to do, is to continue to be positive, continue
to remind ourselves, Like you said, Spencer, even when we
feel alone, we're not.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
There's so much power and positivity, you know. You and
I mentioned that earlier in the show. Wasn't something that
we had planned out, but those three words power in
positivity can move mountains when you change your mindset and
you go from hating everything and having a victim mentality
and feeling like the world is against you too. What
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can I do for you? How can I help you?
How can we make this better? There is power in positivity.
Yesterday, Charlie Kirk, a political speaker but also a father,
a son, and a husband of one, was assassinated for
his belief somebody disagreed with him and chose to not
say a word but instead shoot a shot. Yesterday. It
was the first video that I saw when I got
up out of an app. A friend of mine sent
it to me on Snapchat and I watched it and
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it was a two second clip, so it wasn't enough
time for me to even walk away. And I wish
my eyes hadn't seen it, but it did, and I
started to think about a man like Charlie Kirk, whether
you agree with him politically or not, gave his time
every single time he was out in public, gave his attention,
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gave his platform to people who vehemently hate him and
disagree with him. And if you heard some of the
things that people would say to him in public on
a microphone, but also behind the scenes, the threats that
he and his family received, the things that people would
say about his kids, you would think most people would
pack it up, they wouldn't show up the next day,
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but not him, and he still gave everybody a platform
out of discussion. He wanted to make sure that people
were having a conversation. And I was floored yesterday because
that's what the world needs, you know, when we get
so far away from one another, that's what the world needs.
You think about relationships, and you think about marriages. One
of the biggest reasons why marriages fail and end in
(01:25):
divorce is communication. People stop talking to one another. You
work with somebody and they stopped talking to you, that's
when bad things happen. Communications needed. You don't always have
to agree, but you have to have those communications. And
I was so saddened yesterday to know that a son
of Christ, a father of two, a husband of one
(01:47):
lost his life because someone disagreed with him and was
too much of a coward to speak up.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
You know, you're absolutely right, and I immediately. We actually
had previous plan last night to spend some time with
two of the tiny humans, the youngest ones. And you know,
one of their parents is out of town right now,
their mom is out of town. And just so innocently
Emma asked, she said, you know, when is my mommy
(02:16):
coming home? And I said tomorrow. She'll be home tomorrow,
And that hit me like a ton of bricks. Because
Charlie's wife was having to have conversations where she's having
to tell her kids that he isn't coming home. And
(02:38):
it's scary. You know, everybody hears me talk about these
tiny humans that I have the privilege to get to love,
and it's so scary to think they're going to grow
up in a world where there's so much hate for
people and a lot of it comes down to you
just don't agree with their opinions. And it just broke
my heart last night. And even Emma at one point
(03:01):
she said she looked at me and she said, what's
wrong because she could tell that I was crying. But
it's like, I'm I'm not a parent, but I do
get to leave these tiny humans, and I can't fathom
having to have a conversation like that with one of them.
I just I can't and talk.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
About that situation. You know, you have tiny humans. You're
not faced with those questions and you get that question
and you feel like I want to tell you, but
it's also not my place. I'm not your parent. I
don't know what they want you to know right now.
Right kids younger and younger have access to information that
you and I as kids did not have that my
(03:38):
parents did not have, and it's got to put you
in a bad spot. I mean, I'd love to hear
from parents who had to have those conversations. Yesterday I
saw a video that just broke my heart. Yesterday. It
was Charlie. He was on a TV show and he
was getting up off the couch and his baby girl
was dressed in this cute little dress. I saw that
(03:59):
she runs over Todsman. She says, Daddy, I'm not a father,
but those words. Hearing Daddy, I'm sure every parent listening
is sitting there going to not hear that again. It
just has to cut you like a knife.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
And what's even beyond that, Spencer is as I was
sitting there, we're at Chick fil A, you know, and
like I said, Emma and Cooper they're they're little, you know,
and we're talking five and almost four, and they're so innocent,
and you want to raise them to stand up for
what they believe in and be able to, you know,
(04:39):
have confidence that you can do that, and then something
like this happens, and all of a sudden, I find
myself wanting to tell them, no, I don't.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Stand up for anything.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
You know, which is not the way you have to
go about it. But it's just so scary to think
that this is where, you know, the United States isn't
supposed to be a place where you lose your life
because you stand up for what you believe in.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
We stand better with power of positivity. Y'all jump on
with us and just share with us how you shared
with your kids, how you shared with your family and
your friends, how you felt about the situation that unfolded yesterday.
Eight five five Graves zero. Hey, Cole, what's up?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I detended to work this morning.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
What do you do?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I'm a nurse.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
How do you feel after the events yesterday?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
It was terrible?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
You have kids?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I'm just not yes, I.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Did you talk to them? Did you talk to them
about it last night?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
My mattle child, I did because she looked like mama
mama as soonished to get home from school. But it
was very, very disheartening.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
What was that conversation?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I basically just told her, you know, there's a lot
of main people in this world, and it's not like
it used to be. The world is not like it
used to be, for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
It's sad. Yesterday I was I was floored I was devastated.
And I've never even met Charlie. But the main reason
why I was devastated is when anybody gives their time
to other people, to me, that speaks volumes about who
they are. And he was the type of man who
gave his time, his attention, and his platform to people
(06:16):
who vehemently hated and disagreed with him. And when most
people would be faced with that, they would hear some
negative comments, they would pack it up and they wouldn't
show up the next day. But Charlie did. He continued
to put himself out there in front of people who
didn't like him. And whether you agree with him politically
or not, it's admirable. It's admirable when somebody gives their
(06:38):
time for understanding so there can be dialogue among two
people who may not see the world.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I die right, and everybody has a choice.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Well, thank you very much. I hate that you had
to have that conversation with your child. I know it's
just a part of life and what happens when you're
raising kids. But I just appreciate you for calling today.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
What's up man? How are you?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
I'm doing good?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Are you doing pretty good? What's your name.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
My name's Alex.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Alex Oh, just like my brother. What's going on, Alex?
Speaker 6 (07:10):
I was just calling in about Charlie kirk Man. He
was a Yeah, he had a very big impact on
my life. And I'm a twenty five year old father
to a two year old and he definitely gave me
some great pointers as I followed him, and he's planning
and see hes the faith in my life. And he
talked about I want to be remembered for his courage
of his faith, and I think he was a good
(07:32):
testament to that. And I just thought to hear it.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Were you a follower of Christ before Charlie kirk or
did he just reaffirm your faith?
Speaker 6 (07:42):
I mean, I wouldn't say, I mean now that I am,
I wouldn't say that I was, but I mean I
grew up in a Christian home, but just never really clicked.
But he definitely, he definitely made me open my Bible
and talked to God again after I struggled to for so.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Long, you know, and you've probably never met him.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Oh no, no, no, after you know that I'm saying
now that I'm here, No, I didn't, But.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
That's what people have started to forget is the majority
of people that he touched in a very uh poetic way.
They've never even met him, laid eyes on him through
a digital screen, just like all of us really have.
But his impact is so profound. You can hear it
in Alex's voice.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I just I'm sitting here and I'm tearing up as
you talk, Alex, because you know, I obviously I never
met Charlie, but like you, I followed him for years
and just thought he was such a unique individual, somebody
who was willing to stand up, like we've talked about,
you know, for what he believes in. And to hear that,
(08:48):
you know, I know it's more than just you, Alex,
but to hear from somebody whose faith was reaffirmed by
this person proves exactly what type of person Charlie was
and what type of person he wanted to be remembered as.
And you know, I'm so grateful for Charlie for being
able to do that for you and for so many others,
and it just again, it just breaks my heart for
(09:12):
people who truly loved and cherish this man, whether you
met him or not.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Alex, you shared with us that you have a two
year old what was it like when you put them
to bed last night?
Speaker 6 (09:21):
Just hugging my son when I got home yesterday and
just that was the first thing me and my wife
talked about, was just his family and the fact that
he has two daughters who have to He was really
you know, he was really proud of the fact that
he was a good father and they don't have a
father anymore. So just gonna be tough to them. And
that's that's the main person that I'm praying for, is
(09:42):
those two just two daughters.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Alex, God bless you. I wish you nothing but the
best today. And you know, if you're somebody who prays
on a consistent basis and you want to pray for
Charlie and his family, also pray for Alex and his family,
you know, as they're going through this tough time as well.
I'll be thinking about you a lot today. But Alex,
thank you so much for calling the show. Thank you,
(10:04):
Good morning, Courtney. This is a very sad day. We
were just talking about Charlie Kirk though after the assassination yesterday.
How did you talk to your children about it?
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Well, I have an almost eighteen year old and a
thirteen year old, and I really only talk to my
eighteen year old because she's a senior in high school,
and this is things they talk about.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
How do you tell somebody that a man was killed
because yes.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Of his belief.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
I may not agree with him, but he was a
Christian man who went to college campuses.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
I'm about to send my daughter next year into the
world of college and now I'm like, I have to
do this.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
But because she is also a believer in God so much,
all I tell her is keep your belief and as
long as you believe, you're going to be fine. And
that is what Charlie Kirk was about.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, and the belief of Christianity. You're never walking alone,
even when you feel like you don't see anybody, you
always have God. You always have Jesus with you.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
And that's what I told and that's what I told
her yesterday. I know that if something happened, she said, well,
I'll be with God. And I said, yep, And I said,
that's what this man believed. And there's a senseless, nasty
person that took his life.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Oh, we're going to be thinking about you today, you know.
I'm sure. I'm sure that it's going to be a
heavy day for all of us and for you. Just
keep your head up. Let's use that positivity as power
and try to get through this day as much as
we can.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And love on those babies like I know you will today.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Yes, ma'am, I absolutely will, giving you all the warm
fuzzies and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It's the good good on the Spencer Grave Show. I
don't think we have anybody listening to The Spencer Grave
Show that would admit this, but I love this story
for what it is. Family in Texas is celebrating the
first baby girl in over a century in their family.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I love when I hear stories like this because I
just get excited for I'm like, that is so excited.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Michael Sherman and his wife just found out they're having
a daughter. Michael's side of the family has only had
boys for one hundred and eight years now. I know
people Blair that have had two boys and they went
for a third trying to get a girl and it
turned out to be another boy. I know people that
have had four daughters and they tried for a fifth
(12:24):
and it turned out to be a daughter. I wonder
if anybody will actually admit to, yes, we tried for
our last child to be a different gender, because I
think if a kid found that out, the kid would
be like, wait a minute, you don't really why you
were just trying.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
No, I think that, I genuinely think that there are
people that will admit this. I mean, let's be honest.
It may be unsaid, but we know what Thomas Wrht
and his wife are doing with his next baby. He
wants that baby boy so bad he can't stand it.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Eight five five Graves zero. Over the last twenty four hours,
the world has seemed very, very, very heavy, and today
is a day that we cannot forget about. September eleventh.
It was this day twenty four years ago when tragedy
struck three different sites in America, the World Trade Center,
a field in Pennsylvania, and the Pentagon. Actually have a
(13:17):
dear friend, Jill, who lost her father during that and
I just wanted you to kind of share your story
with all of us and Blair, because every year it
feels like people get further and further away from the
remembrance of nine to eleven.
Speaker 8 (13:32):
Well, look, it's been twenty four years and I know
that all too well because I was pregnant at the
time six months pregnant with my daughter. So you know,
I look at her and I can see the span
of time just by looking at her, because I know
where I was that day obviously, and you know twenty
four years later, you know where.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Where are we?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Can you take us back to that day for those
that don't know your story.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Sure, I was at work.
Speaker 8 (13:59):
My co worker came to my office and said that
plans had hit the towers, and I said, you don't.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Know what you're talking about.
Speaker 8 (14:05):
I said, let me call my dad. So I called
my father, who was on the one hundred and fourth
floor of World Trade Center two, which was the second
tower hit but the first tower to collapse, and my
sister was in the building across from him, in three
World Financial. So I had a lot of family downtown,
and I picked up the phone. I called my dad
and couldn't get through.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
So when you called your dad after hearing that the
towers had been hit and he didn't answer the phone,
did you have a sinking feeling or did you still
carry a lot of hope throughout the day.
Speaker 8 (14:38):
I had a sinking feeling that something was seriously wrong.
I mean I heard from my mother at about ten
thirty and That's when I knew things were very dire.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
It was very eerie.
Speaker 8 (14:48):
It was almost like Armageddon.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
It's wild because the world really did stand still. And
I know Alan Jackson is saying about that for the
last twenty three years that he put that song out,
and how it really did feel ominous and very eerie
that day, Blair, we're talking about twenty four years ago.
You were not even ten yet.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I was in elementary school, and I mean, I remember
it like it was yesterday, and from a child's perspective,
I didn't understand the gravity of what had happened. I
was in my fourth grade class, and I just remember
my pe teacher running in and his name was mister Biggs,
running in and miss car Up Cargill and saying the
(15:31):
towers had been hit. I didn't know what that meant.
The next thing I knew, I was on safety patrol
and they were coming to get us to lower the flag.
And then my sister was coming to check me out
of school because my dad was traveling, and he was
just like, get everybody home, get everybody home. It wasn't
until later that night when my dad got home and
sat us kids down and tried to explain exactly what
(15:55):
was going on. But I just remember, even as a child,
this sense of everybody was family in our neighborhood that night,
like everybody was coming together. So even as a kid,
I remembered it being different. And by no means am
I saying that I would ever want something like that
to happen again. But I do miss that sense of
(16:15):
everybody being there for everyone in each and everybody. You
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Well, Jill, you know how much I love you, and
I think about you often, and I certainly think about
you on a daylight today just when you know, I
can't imagine what it's like to lose a parent, and
lose a parent at such a young age, especially when
you're going through a pregnancy at the same exact time.
Speaker 8 (16:34):
Well, I appreciate that. And Blair, you were so right,
not only in your community where you were, but what
we did in our town is we gathered at church
and it was called Mass for the Missing, and we
met every night and had masks for fourteen days until
everybody was accounted for. And I'm going back to church
where we were twenty four years ago to gather with
(16:57):
the town again, as I have done every single year
with my mom after a visit to ground zero.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Well, thank you Jill for jumping on with us.
Speaker 8 (17:06):
Thank you both, and thank you for just remembering and
for keeping this alive.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Talk to you soon, Okay.
Speaker 8 (17:13):
I love you both.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
By How are you sure?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Hey, buddy? What's going on?
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Man? I just want to tell you, man, I love
what you do. You guys are so good at what
you do. It's it's amazing. You got to laugh. That's
infectious and I love it. Keep doing what you're doing, man, Please.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Thank you. Can you do us a favor because today
has been a very heavy day and we'll continue to
be a very heavy day given the fact that it's
nine to eleven and the events that unfolded yesterday with
Charlie Kirk. Can you just give us a little positivity
in your world? Share with us something that's great going
on with you.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
I've got grandchildren that come and love on me every
day because they need me. You've got people in your
life that need you.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Man.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
We got to keep doing what we're doing because this
is what it's all about.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
It's very true. The positivity side is we were all
given today and hopefully we're all given tomorrow and We're
all here for a very specific reason. And I have
said this and I will shout it from the rooftops.
We're here to help others.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
That is exactly right. And so nine to eleven is
is today. Yes, it'll live in infamy. We know this. Wellether.
You think God's gonna zap you with all these fuzzy
feelings just so you can have love. No, He's going
to give you the opportunity to love. And this is
what He's done for us. So man, we love you,
We love you. We love to show you. Guys got
(18:32):
to keep doing what you're doing because you bring positivity
to every single one of us.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
We appreciate you, We appreciate the heck Outia, So thank
you very much.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Oh you're welcome, sir.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
It's How country are you? On the Spencer Grave Show. Jenne,
where are you from?
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I'm from Dora.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Shout it out to all our friends listening in Dora
this morning. Jan On a scale of one to country,
how country are you?
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I'm gonna say a six point.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Hi very specific this morning, but why so low, Janna?
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I mean just some days it feel it feel a
little bit country than others to day. I'm feeling six
point five.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Gotcha, not a problem. I got three questions for you.
We'll give you a score at the end of your ready.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
The state of Alabama has a rich history of country
music and other forms of music. What area in the
northwest corner is known most for it?
Speaker 5 (19:26):
North?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I'm bad with directions.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
That's up and over.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
North was up and over, So like the muscle Shouls area.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Good.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Question number two, Share with us a time you fought
with a wild animal.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I fought with a wild animal. I had a cat
up in a tree one time that I had to
get out.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Okay, not really wild, a little more domesticated, but understood
it could be. Maybe it was fair.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
It was wild, It was not my cat, and I'm
very much allergic to him. But I wanted it gone.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So what was the deal? How to get up in
the tree? It ran up there? But then you were
trying to get it out. Why didn't you just leave it?
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Because it was up there yewing and he was sailing.
I couldn't. It needed gone?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
It needed gone. That actually adds a point because that's
a great Southern phrase. Here we go. Final question, what
is your mama always remind you.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Of My mama always remind me of.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah, what does she always remind you of about? She
always brings this story up.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Oh about how when I was little, she one time
got three tickets by when she got pulled over one
because I was not restrained in my cars because I
invoked it myself, and I was also not clothed at
the time. I would not keep my clothes on.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Flags. They hit you with some indecent exposure.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Wow, nothing like mom getting pulled over and getting three
tickets and then always telling you that story. I say, yeah,
six point five. Really love today, You're a seven point nine.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I'll take it.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Today has been a very heavy day nine to eleven,
the assassination of Charlie Kirk. But there are some other
stories that we have shared with you in the last
couple of weeks that now have a close and one
of them is Ella Langley. You know, after she was
in Birmingham at the Coke Cole Amphitheater, she stepped away
from touring for two and a half weeks. Those were
tour dates that she was going to be out on
(21:34):
the road with Morgan Wallen. She got back out on
the road, and she finally addressed what was going on
with her. What I'm grateful for is the past version
of myself. There's a lot of things that I think about.
I'm like, why, why why that situation here?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Why didn't you say that thing?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
You know, your shower thoughts. You're in there having an
argument and recently in it over my break.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
One of my biggest takeaways from it was I'm so
grateful for her.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I'm so grateful for the the girl.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
That went through those things, went through that situation because
now I'm the woman that I am because of her.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So just now, if you're struggling with something today, God's
doing something in your life that's going to make you
so grateful for the struggles that you went through. That's
such a positive thing from Ella Langley. How she ended
that that if you're going through something, God is such
a positive and powerful part of your life, and you're
never alone when you walk with Jesus Christ. And you
may not be a believer, you might not be somebody
(22:30):
who goes to church, and this isn't our place to
try to convert you in that way, but it's true.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Just like Ella said, trying to be positive I think
that's the biggest thing we can do. I believe without
knowing Charlie, you know personally, that's what he would want
us to do, is to continue to be positive, continue
to remind ourselves, Like you said, Spencer, even when we
feel alone, we're not.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
There's so much power and positivity, you know. You and
I mentioned that earlier in the show. Wasn't something that
we had planned out, but those three words power in
positivity can move mountains when you change your mindset and
you go from hating everything and having a victim mentality
and feeling like the world is against you too. What
(23:16):
can I do for you? How can I help you?
How can we make this better? There is power in positivity.
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