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August 21, 2025 125 mins
In this (somewhat) electric Wednesday night edition of The Sports Cave with Biggest Puma, host Sam Freas and the crew dive headfirst into the chaos, comedy, and controversy swirling around the sports world and beyond. With NFL kickoff now just 15 days away, Sam and Cap dissect the new Cowboys docuseries, exploring its nostalgic highs, controversial omissions, and the marketing genius (or madness) of Jerry Jones. From Michael Irvin’s unforgettable quote—“The doctor tried to spank me and I caught his hand”—to the infamous “White House” party mansion, the crew breaks down the dynasty years, the fallouts, and the legacy that still haunts Cowboys fans today. Whether you're a Gen X diehard or a younger fan learning the lore, this documentary sparks debate, emotion, and plenty of member berries.

Then, the show shifts to the surreal spectacle at San Antonio City Hall, where the mayor took the mic during a rally for Project Marvel. Sam and Cap unpack the political theater, the fearmongering from both sides, and the optics of a mayor shouting “Go Spurs Go” to a silent crowd. Is this about civic progress or personal branding? And what does it mean, if anything, for the future of the Spurs in San Antonio?

Things get weird along the way—in the best way possible. From radio day reflections, Arby’s airport cravings, and X-Files throwbacks, this episode is a rollercoaster of sports, satire, and San Antonio absurdity. And yes, there’s a grown-man football league pep talk that includes possibly the most unforgettable line ever plus a deep dive into the infamous Nick Castellanos curse and its eerie connection to world events.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lid Be, lie Be, lie Be, line be, light the beam.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Indeed, enough talking about Jeremy Sohan Instagram stories, Off Mike,
Let's talk on Mike for another one of these programs.
Welcome into the Wednesday night edition of The Sports Cave
with Biggest Puma once again. I am your host, Sam Freeze,
joined in the room by the cap as well as
producer Extraordinary LG. In undisclosed location under the same roof.

(00:41):
We actually have a fourth person under the same roof tonight.
Convinced the roommate to come out here with us.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Oh, she gonna make an appearance or she's just reading
small steps small steps.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Well, I'll tell you when we talk about that Amazon
wish list, when we talk about our show's wedding registry,
maybe that can help us get a little closer to
getting her back on. Would love to get third set
up here. I guess a fourth setup so we can
have some people start coming into the room with us. Now,

(01:13):
as always, we are broadcasting live here on the north
side of San Antonio, where we are almost almost down
to two weeks away. We are fifteen days away from
NFL Opening Night.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
It's two weeks coming up, quick man, coming up quick.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
It's so weird too, because okay, so fifteen days away
today obviously the way math works fourteen days away tomorrow,
which would be exactly too. Yeah, dude, count on your
fingers and you're gonna need your toes to get there. Okay,
we're all on the same page.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
That's how math works.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Tomorrow, or so I've been told. Tomorrow, we're two weeks away.
But the Cowboys play this Friday, they play their final
preseason game. Yeah, and maybe I'm just I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
This preseasons always no starters exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Well, if you're the Cowboys, that's the first and second
as well, which.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Again maybe the Niner should have been taking that heat. Man,
we've been we lost our third string running back, torn pecktorre.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Oh third string running back.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
That would be we had to play our like fifth
and sixth last year. Yeah, you get a little nerve.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, that's fair, that's fair. Well, when I think of
the Cowboys third string running back, that's the equivalent of
any other team's fifth or sixth string having to play.
Like you said, no, Cowboys play Friday night, So they
that's thirteen days between their final preseason game and the
season opener. Up in Philly September fourth, not to mention

(02:43):
the fact that none of the starters have played football
since December, actual football, besides you know practice.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
I wonder how many Kak hasn't played.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Since October whenever that was that he got hurt last year.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Dak Prescott sucks. Oh buddy, it's uh, it just it
kills me. In all the quarterback polls they have, like
even the Madden Scores, they have Dak Prescott and Brock
Purty the same.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
I mean, come on, well, okay, well you want to
start with that. One of those guys has finished second
place in an MVP voting in the last two seasons.
The other one is Brock Purty. Yeah, I would think
that's disrespectful to Dak to be ranked the same as Party.
Not the way you're thinking of it from a Niners perspective.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
He's actually been to the Super Bowl, been to an
NFC championship. Beat Dak Prescott.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
I'm sorry, were you talking about the Niners team ratings
or individual ratings of a quarterback? He is because again
one of those guys, one of those guys finished second
in MVP voting behind U, the greatest football player potentially
of all time. So, uh, it's going to be a
long football season. There's gonna be a lot of this,
and you can you can pretty much rest assured because

(04:01):
of how I think the Cowboys are going to perform
this year. I'm gonna come over to your side within
six seven weeks. Like I'm going to be bashing the
Cowboys heart worse than you are by about week seven.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
I mean, if we have a receiver corps, you know
we're out there searching for receivers right now because we
have auks not going to be back for a month.
Ricky Purcell is probably the only Ricky Pierson piersaal per sale.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
You gotta say it like he's a like he's a
villain and a Duke's a hazard episode pearsall boy, Ricky
petersall down there, just from up the road and now
it's running that shine Cross County line.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Watkins are up and coming like second year player. He's
a hurt. Everybody's hurt. Who knows when Jiwan Jennings comes back.
I mean, if they want to tell you that his
calf is flaring up, but you know that's just gonna
make Kittle and McCaffrey go up the draft boards a
little more and a little more in a little more.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Oh for fantasy fantasy for sure. I Uh, we're gonna
have to. We're gonna end up talking a little bit
because I want to ask you when I I haven't
played fantasy in like seven eight years now. This will
be my first quote unquote team I've played. Uh, and
I've got my GM in place. Got GM claims he

(05:24):
has multiple championship belts on the on the mantle already,
so ends on the wall. Yeah, Well, we'll see how
it goes. But I I still need we need to
talk without giving away too much, too many of your
draft secrets. We do need to have some generic fantasy
football draft talk for all the guys that aren't playing
in our league but are still gonna be drafting here

(05:46):
in the.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Next couple of weeks. The best advice I can give
you is mock drafts. See where people are going, you know,
realize like, oh, this person's usually going third or fourth round.
Don't sit there and pick him in the second because
you know you can get him back on the swing.
So knowing kind of like the draft styles and a
lot of people go pick you up on those magazines
where it's like the top one hundred, everybody like kind

(06:09):
of goes off of that and then know your homers,
you know, know who's a Dallas Cowboy fan because you
know Dak Prescott's gonna be a quick grab for them.
You know.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
So the last league I played in was when I
was still across the street at God, what's the CMG
Cox Cox Media Group back working for get your jokes
in now, Uh back working over there with.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
That like a hard job.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Uh, it was. It was pretty stiff competition. I mean
it really was.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
There had to be the elite. Yeah, you couldn't.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
You couldn't come in there with any kind of uh limp,
nonchalant attitude. You had to to really focus. Really, you
had to get your nut. That's correct, That's correct. Now
we were playing over there and the first like three
of the first five picks of the draft were it

(07:04):
was like Dak see or No, it was still Romo.
It was it was even before that, it's been that long.
It was Romo. Uh might have even been like Julius
Jones maybe maybe not that old, but it was whoever
the running mark, Yeah, that's what it was.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
It was Marco Murray, ye r I p U Bernet, Yeah,
we're not going to resign you, sir.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
And then the wide receiver was Dez and those Romo,
Dez and DeMarco were three of the first five picks
in the draft, and I remember just sitting there thinking, like,
you know what, I think I'm done with I think
I'm done with this.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
So pro tip number one, pro tip cap pro tip
number one, don't pick your team. That's just like, unless
it's like a defense or the kicker you know that
you know is going to go off.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, if you're a if you're a Cowboy fan, pick
Brandon Aubrey because they're going to be kicking a lot
of filled exactly and he's the best offensive weapon outside
of CD.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Just let that one go so you can enjoy your
your team's game without sitting there being like throw it
to Ricky.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
See. I've always I've always fallen on the other side
when it comes to not fantasy per se, but when
it comes to betting regarding my favorite teams, like Cowboys games,
majority of every game every week throughout the season, I'll
have money on the other team, so that then when

(08:35):
the Cowboys lose, I don't feel as bad about it.
So at least I can be like, Okay, well I
got a little something out of it. It helps with
the emotional turmoil of being a Cowboy fan.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
So you're willing to spend money to garner a win.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
That's correct. Yeah, that's that's sports in general, is it not?
It kind of?

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Kind of is? Speaking of the Cowboys, we gotta talk.
Both of us have started through the cow Boys documentary.
I'm curious trying to burn through it so I can
just forget about it. So tell me you were five
or six episodes?

Speaker 3 (09:07):
In?

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Six episodes? Six?

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Okay, so I'm only two ins. So we're gonna take
this in chunks.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
I'm at the after after six is where it's the
fall of the dynasty? Is this post nineties?

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (09:20):
So the first six episodes are all still just through
the mid nineties.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
A lot of fluffing going up.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah okay, oh yes, that's kind of what I'm worried about.
So I am two episodes in. Uh, I picked the roommate,
speaking of the roommates, she's here.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
UH picked her? You know. He has a national like
a Natty Championshivering from Arkansas.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
He was an All American offensive lineman. He was the
team captain of a national champion co team.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
The captain.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, yeah, never knew that played guard at his side. Grant, Okay,
we'll talk. We're gonna talk about the documentary because they're
I think there's a lot of that A lot of
people already know, but there's stuff like that where still yeah,
educating a younger generation. But we got to talk at

(10:12):
the documentary and what I watched. We've got some other
cow notes to get to. We're gonna try something new
tonight as well. I've got uh with as many you know,
the roommate and I do. Who won the Internet? Which
I cross your fingers.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Oh, gonna be this Friday.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Potentially maybe we're all of these last second travel uh,
you know, obligations that pop up, Like I picked her
up from the airport yesterday. She was in Cleveland, uh,
first part of this week, and then I got a
picture I forgot to tell you all this Monday night.
Tell me if this is not the sexiest thing you've

(10:51):
ever heard a woman do. Okay, ordering an Rby's roast
beef sandwich at the Baltimore Airport.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Some delicious armies. Yeah, I'd look in Baltimore at the airport.
Why did they make her go east to just go
west airplanes? Airplanes?

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, it's above it's above my pay grade. But yeah,
I forgot I had that on my That was one
of my notes that got left on the cutting room
floor for money.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
It was it just a regular roast or beach and cheddar,
beef and shed. Definitely beef and shed.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Uh So yeah, no, we got counter. We're gonna try
something new, calling it working title. Uh the X Files,
which randomly turns out our producer extraordinary has a tie
in there, as we will hear.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Nerd It's greatness. It's greatness.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
It holds up so well. Now basically, anytime something gets
sent to me multiple times on X yeah, probably we'll
probably end up doing an X file segment on it,
because I've got a couple of a couple of clips
that were sent to me multiple times already this week,
so we'll get to those in their ex files and

(12:10):
the main segee. I swear I'm not trying to just
do Project Marvel every main segment, but when it should
should come to an end tomorrow night, at least this
phase of it, this phase of the fight, the fight
apparently is going to continue for a while, but earlier

(12:33):
today our our city Hall was turned into Pawnee Parks
and rec and our little uh you know, the just
when you thought the absurdity couldn't get it, Like we
were talking about it the other Monday, about how we're
you know, we've entered this silly stage of our country's history.

(12:57):
It's not just at the highest levels of politics, it's
apparently even here at the local the lowest.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Levels of politics. Ain't nobody compromise?

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, we had. We had the mayor taking the microphone
from spurs Jesus of all people earlier today. So we'll
have fun with that in the main sege and then
of course see the funny you say that the lightning
round as always will close out the show, and we're
going to end with a five year anniversary something happened

(13:29):
five years ago yesterday, and we will Yeah, I mean
that too. We were right in the middle of I
think the NBA had just reopened the bubble, had just
started their season back up, or we're about to. Yeah,
I think was it doing because they took the whole
summer off.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, but I thought they did it before football open.
I thought they opened the bubble like and started doing
that during July and the end of July.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Was it that? Yeah, okay, yeah, but no, it ran
through it was beginning of July because they had to
play like eleven games to finish the regular season, or
of what they called the regular season. Started July seventh,
ended October eleventh, so it went all the way into
but we got Anniversary to get to there to close

(14:19):
it out. But as always, we got to start with
Oh my god, National Days. This one actually the FATA
one I over sold Monday. I'll admit that wast faetas
are delicious. Okay, this one actually, I'm sure a lot

(14:41):
of people have seen. I enjoy this one personally. It
is National Radio Day. What yeah, I pat yourself on
the back. I don't get too sappy about a lot
of things, but I do like to see all of
the you know, old timers, the radio Hall of famers.
You know, I do the podcast with Bama Brown from

(15:03):
out of Austin over there. You know, he's a Texas
Radio Hall of Famer. He's got thirty seven years, almost
thirty eight years now in local radio. So just the
amount of stories those guys have.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
You know, Jay King here.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Not Ja King, Ja King's the DFW guy. Jerry King,
the country Classic Country Now guy. Here was one of
the first dudes I got to work with. Speaking of Cox,
Speaking of Cox, don't pull that as a drop the
you know some of these old school radio guys. It

(15:42):
really it's like talking to It's like talking to someone.
You know. Radio has changed so much over like use
Bama for example, He's been in radio thirty seven years.
What it is now in twenty twenty five compared to
what it was in the seventies, eighties, even nineties, hell,

(16:02):
even last decade, it's changed so much. Yeah, some of
these I went back and uh specifically pulled some of these,
some of the pictures of when I was just getting
into radio. Tell me which one's up.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Now, one with the mouth of gape and looks like
you with puba care stash.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Oh well, yeah, that was that was the time. Okay,
So that one, that one is that is the nineties
rock band Trapped one of the first things I had
to do because I my first job in radio. I
was working for kiss H ninety nine five and Trapped
was doing a acoustic studio performance for exactly exactly for

(16:48):
some chosen winners of a kiss contest, and so that
one I had to go pick them up from the airport.
You'll notice, if you know anything about that band, which
I would, I have further follow up questions. If you
already noticed this, the lead singer is not in the
vehicle there. He demanded his own vehicle that was driven

(17:10):
by a professional Like, uh, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Wait, wait to throw your band under the bus.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, the rest of them, they jumped in the giant
Toyota kiss truck with me, and then immediately we're like,
we're starving, do you have like can we just pop somewhere?
So we had grabbed a hot and ready Little Caesar's
pizza and that's us eating it on the way from
the airport back to the station. What else did I

(17:37):
send you, LG? I can't remember that.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, one we got the Coyotes.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Okay, So that's with the great Randy Bonias. Randy was
the first guy that taught me how to run aboard
in radio. I had zero I remember that old school
kids never took uh never took a single broadcast radio
class in college, unlike LG, who has the full education
from Texas State. One of the best programs and outside

(18:04):
of North Texas products like it. Yeah, well as they
should these. Yeah, well get used to that. That's uh yeah. No,
Randy was before I ever had any reason to be
on a board. Randy was teaching me how he was
just a cool dude, kind of took me under his

(18:24):
wing whenever I first because I came from working as
a data analyst for a marketing company here in town
and just got a wild whim to. I was like,
all I do is listen to sports talk radio and podcast.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
San Antonio seems like a town where if you can
just get your foot in the door, who knows what
could happen, Who knows where it could go? And so
when I got.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
My data analysts, like what what does this data?

Speaker 2 (18:52):
So it was a lot. So we were buying paid programming,
so like you fall asleep and then you wake up
on your couch and there's a you know, some thirty
minute paid programming. So my job was to analyze like
how many calls an AD would generate? Okay, stuff like that,
So then gathering and then analyzing revenue type thing.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, data analysts. Yeah, well you didn't tell me what
kind of data?

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Well, sometimes the big because also I was doing it
for a dude named Armando Montelongo who was making millions
of dollars off of doing these house flipping seminars.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
So yeah, at the local holiday that's correct, Yeah, very much,
so very very time shift, very very much.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
So let me tell you how you can be a
millionaire just like me.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Just follow these three simple steps. You see this two
hundred dollars before you leave today?

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Do you see this fancy car I'm driving that I
rented right now?

Speaker 2 (19:56):
It's a big part of the smoking mirror is a
big part of it. What else did I send you?

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Ology?

Speaker 2 (20:01):
I think I sent you a couple more.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Uh we got looks like a mcfoley.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yes, okay, that was the first uh like real celebrity
I met in radio. It was none other than dude
love mankind mcfole. That absolutely is m He was on
a legend. He had come on Billy Madison show that
morning and Derek texted me and he was like, dude, like,

(20:27):
if you're not if you're not scheduled to be up
here today, come up here now. Mick Foley is in studio.
Uh you know, well, I'll introduce you. I'll get a picture.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Was like he had a documentary going around and he
was traveling. Yeah, because this would have been this would
have been.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Sometime around like twenty sixteen ish, sometime in there.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
I think, you know, that's one of my secret little passions.
I love watching old school wrestler documentary.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Dude, They're so good because they're so wild ass. They're
so oh wheels off.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Like imagine being on the plane with a bunch of
wrestlers that are just like going like they're like hopping
off in Tokyo or they going like because they go
to city to city every day. Oh yeah, you know,
and they're all drunk, they're all pilled out, and I'm like, God,
I would have just loved been a fly on the
wall and those times.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, some of the women that were flies on the
walls don't have such glowing stories to tell from some
of those plane flights. If I remember one of the
documentaries I watched, well Anymore Dressing any other LG.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Let's see you looks like is that an eagle with
two cops?

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Oh okay, yeah that was so Some people might remember
this before Billy Madison Show had John on as a
yuck monkey. Yeah, he was my go to mascot guy.
So that is John in the Eagle mascot at Oyster Bake,
probably sweating ten pounds off.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yeah, right, so bad.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
It was so bad. I think it was right before
Dennis Deyong or.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah, the eagles start wobbling and stuff.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
So then it's funny. There were multiple times where I
would see him walking through the crowd and I could
tell the gate was a little slower and like the
head was starting and it would wiggle one way and
the other, and that would be like, dude, you gotta
he was a trooper though he was he again someone
who just wanted to get his foot in the door

(22:36):
and started as the Eagle mascot, ended up as a
member of Billy Madison Show for a short while, a
while at least nonetheless. Oh buddy, yeah, and uh what
else is that it?

Speaker 1 (22:49):
And we got one. It looks like you're sleeping at
the boarder.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Ah, yes, yes, yes, that Uh that wasn no, not
the overnight. That was the Snowmageddon. That was when everything
froze and Mike and I did the show late night,
uh you know, took over the ticket air waves at
like eleven, ten thirty at night something like that and

(23:15):
just went live for an hour and a half, opened
up the phone lines and just we had one guy
call in that his power was off and he you know,
he didn't have blanket, he didn't have stuff. So we
were able to get him in touch with another listener
that had a vehicle that could take stuff to him.
That was one of the coolest. Obviously, the snow Mageddon

(23:36):
sucked and everything that something that went along with it
and bring you close.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Enough to a base, so you like next to Methodists
had hospital powers, so I had. I had heat and
power and no buddy.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
On my one hundred and twenty year old house on
the East Side. It was We woke up that first
morning and the thermostat said forty degrees zero insulation. Like
we were running out to the car to heat up
and then going back inside.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Oh man, my dog, I got like I got huskies
and so but yeah, they loved Yeah, they were like
I couldn't get him inside. I'm like, why can't this
happen every year at multiple times?

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, that was.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
So.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
I had just dropped the roommate and Leroy, our dog
at the time, off at a friend's house who was
close enough to base so she never lost power. So
we I dropped her off over there with our pets,
and then drove made it to the station. Charlie Parker
had brought cots for everybody, and so I got a

(24:49):
caught from Charlie Parker. And that was also the day
where he realized there was nothing to eat in the
entire building except an egg salad sandwich from the like
break room concession machine.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
I always think that's like a joke.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
He bought it, took one bite, bought it, took one bite,
and just immediately everything out and threw it away, walked
out of the room, just complete silence, no reaction, no
verbal reaction whatsoever. But yeah, that again, I know, it's
it's uh, it's it's easy to make fun of seeing

(25:28):
all the people that have posted stuff talking about how
much it's such an honor to celebrate National Radio Day
as a member, and it's it's there's some that are
worth laughing at.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
But I mean there as a national national ship talking day.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
I guarantee you I think I think I think.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
I should be awarded awarded something for that.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Uh it is, Oh, I think we've already missed it.
It was julyaven Son Noble. Oh no, wait, June thirteenth,
still already missed it day. Right, October seventh is National
POS Day, and maybe we could make that work.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
I don't know. I don't think I'm on POS, but
I definitely talk a lot of especially during fantasy.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
That's what I was about to say. I can feel
these next these next few months, these next few months,
we might have we might have full nuclear detonation in
this room at some point.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Man, we've already had We've already had an incident in
the league. I've already drafted in the dynasty.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
It's been like two days.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, that possible because the commissioner is an idiot who
in my league gives me the most hell because we're
in the set like we're in. He has his league,
I have my league, but we both are in each
other's league, and he is the most annoying goes off.
I want pp a change the rule, blah blah, this
is not a dictatorship. You're such a dictator blah blah.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
And like literally and I'm like shut up, you know,
Like I'm like, the rule is the rule. So therefore
he had a rule. The waivers after the draft, everybody
goes on waivers and then you get to put a
waiver on somebody. Sure, well, of course he didn't set
it up right, and he picks up two stud prospects,
and all of a sudden, he's like, should.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
We just leave this as it is and not changing?
And I'm like, no, absolutely not. He's like, I'm never
gonna get it. You had a high pick, and I'm like, yeah,
but you're not gonna get it. He don't get both. Yeah, Like,
this isn't about That's what he fails to understand. This
is not about me getting an advantage. Yeah, there are
rules for a reason. Donnie, Like, what was it?

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Like, I can literally read the conversation was crazy because
I like, I go full legal minded, like I put thought,
I put facts in that assumptions burocrat on his ass
and he hates it. Dude, Like I can understand that too, though,
what was it? He comes to me lives likely for that.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
This is riveting as we watch search his phone for
a conversation about fantasy football. How do we have it? No?

Speaker 1 (28:24):
No, so basically all I have talked about too. I
was like, oh, how the tables have turned and how
democracy sometimes leads to chaos because people are stupid and
you just need rules to be rules, and that's it.
And basically just threw it all back in his face.
And he's like, but I riled up the chat group.

(28:46):
He personally chatted me the d M me this, and
then he rowed up the chat. I rolled up the
chat group to get after his ass.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
That that I think is probably the only part of
fantasy football I miss is the arguing the Yeah, the
politics up.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
I'm good at it. I'm good at like swinging the votes. Man,
That's why I have full house of cards, you know,
non pediass. Yeah, Kevin Spacey, I whipped the votes, so
to speak.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
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Speaker 1 (29:25):
LG.

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Speaker 1 (30:33):
You're begging the wish list, Yeah no.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Shout out again to Wes for being making the first
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The more equipment, well, the more tips we can get,
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List items we can get, all just means more equipment,

(30:58):
more investment, more.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
We want to bring people on. We like definitely like
having a third person here. We need camera, Mike's all
that kind of good stuff. So more content, more controversy.
We can also later in the year bring a fantasy
football member up while we're at it. Unless they believe
in momentum, then keep watching that. Keep watching that. Damn

(31:24):
America's team. I've heard, you've already heard it. Oh you're
going to hear it a lot more. I've heard it's
said a lot.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Just because it's said a lot doesn't mean Jimmy Johnson
doesn't mean Hall of Famers by Troy a Man. What
did Jimmy really do? He quit?

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Troy Aman never? What did he do with Dolphins? I mean,
who was the who was the head coach for the Steelers'.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Twitter at Oklahoma before he had to go to the
woke left.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Coast, Troy Sharpstick. He's like, that's the real reason why
I went to Oklahoma not Oklahoma State. Is I wanted
to win the title.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
And I'm like, you know few, dude, Yeah, uh, it's
just a country boy from Henrietta.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
But let's fantasy. We got two more members in good, good, Yes,
we got four spots left to get twelve. We have
eight right now, so we can start it. But that's
a lot of players that you know you're gonna have
that fomo like, should I start this? So twelve is
the perfect number.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
And we're doing the draft Tuesday, September second, so we
got four spots left and you got uh and we're
doing it live basically ten days, two weeks, yes, twelve days.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
And uh it's gonna man. I'm telling you, man, I
love like bring bring that grade A S talking man.
You need you need to get you need to get
that blood flowing. Make them an easy You know, the
draft is a strategy. You know who's gonna go on
a tight end run, who's gonna go on the QB run?
You know who's gonna be the first one to pick

(32:55):
a kicker.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
How can there be a tight end run when there's
only like three worth half? Those are just watch Okay.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Someone has someone hasn't done a mock draft. Its looks like,
oh absolutely not. I am putting full face. Whoever writing yes, okay,
he knows exactly what I'm talking about. Then, but you
can always at least I hope he does. He will see.
But you can always get at me on my email.
Vcapy tan two one oh at gmail dot com. And

(33:28):
unlike A O L but it is T H E
C A p I t A N two one oh
at gmail dot com or hit me up on my
d MS at the Captain's Chair two one oh on Instagram,
or you can text Puma. Uh, get Puma over there
if he ever gives me. Yeah, it gives me the names.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
If y'all have sent me I need to go back.
I'll tell you to be honest what I'm really bad about.
Like I noticed check not not checking emails, but checking
this little box that says requests. Yeah, I uh, I
literally just saw a message on X that had been

(34:11):
sent by someone I know, like and they never said
anything to me, like, hey, a message to do something,
you know. And it turns out it wasn't that important.
But it was from June twenty fifth of not this
summer but last summer.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Oh my god. It was just it was a I
mean again, nothing was important. It was just my grandmother's
funeral pretty much.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, it was something. It did involve family members, It
wasn't It wasn't a funeral. It was kind of the
opposite of that.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
It was a wedding. Yeah, and he just ghosted them
on the way.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
I know, I know, I'm sorry. I learned now the
roommate has introduced me to this little thing called DM
request folder, and uh, I am now checking that daily
on each of the planet.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
I didn't think you cared about our reunion.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
That's what happened to her. I mean with the twenty
year her high school reunion. It a bunch of that
stuff had been left in oh, been left in the request.
But yeah, if you you still got time, if you
want to get into the Fantasy League, I promise if
you do send it to me, or if you have
sent it to me, I'll make sure CAP gets it.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
And if have you started sending anything out yet to
the people, well, but the day they know, the eight
that are in know they're in already, right, Okay.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
They're already in the They have to they have to
physically accept the request. So I mean you cannot can
do it by email. I usually just I can send
it to the email. If you want me to text,
you just throw a phone number in there, and I
can throw you a text mess and you literally click
on the link and you put your team name on there.
I like some of the team names already on there.
Can't wait to beat up on AI overlords.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah, let's let's get some bits going we need That's
the other uh, the other part of fantasy football I
actually do kind of miss are the uh team names.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Speaking of AI, you know who, I had a running
with Alan iverson that joke is not going to get better, dude, Like,
it just doesn't keep me.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
There's a I's mom, Oh chat gp girl. What you
get into an argument with now?

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Oh we are not using real name? So her name
is Addie and it's a hot alias name. I was like,
either you have a problem with some pills or that's
a pretty good name.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
I got a buddy Reese shout out Reese. It was
his birthday a couple of days ago. His little sister's
name is Addie, and I as soon as I said that,
I'm like, hell, Reese is gonna get mad now.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Name The reason why she broke up with him was
because he was moving incredibly too fast. Besides, it's the
chat cheap et disel being way too acting like a
real person when I'm like, you're a freaking robot man,
you know but even if you're listening you, I'm gonna

(37:14):
be a home I'm gonna talk to you personally. What
like on a third day, you do not give a
magnet of your dad's ashes. Whoa, whoa, whoa. If you
don't have any homies, if you don't have any homies,
that tell you that that is too much. You're gonna
scare away. I am that homie for you right now.

(37:37):
You cannot do that.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Don't over ever, I have so many do that third day,
third day a magnet with Okay, first, dad's ashesn't it?

Speaker 1 (37:50):
First of all? How many this?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
I guess My first question would be many of.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
This? This move. I'm telling you right now, that's not
your move, buddy, that's not your move. If he's doing.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
If he's doing it now, it means it's worked at
some point.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
What pity sex sounds like this is that's almost like rape.
It sounds like, well, that's a little date rape. You're like,
you're guilt tripping them so much into.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
A Yeah, I guess it's the antithesis of it, by
making yourself so pathetic that you have no other choice.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Again, I'm suggesting that is his move because it has
at least worked in some capacity.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Along the words I remember, I'm I always told you
like on the first story, I was like there was
something I am missing that was just so over the
top with this guy.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
And that was that.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
And when I found out and I was like, oh
my god, that's it. I gotta like remember this, remember this.
Remember what was he gonna give for a fourth date?
A stuff dead catiste exactly, tact his childhood pet.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
That's taxidermy.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
This was big orange. Here you go.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Yeah that. Uh. Stories like that make me really happy
to have a kind and loving room.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
I see, like she's like, well, I'm really into magnets.
And I'm like and I'm like, don't tell me you
kept it. She's like, yeah, it's still on my friend.
Oh no.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
I was like, oh no, no, no, no, no, that
thing's gotta leave.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
That's got the house, and that thing's gotta be you know,
send it into the wind, you know, throw it in
the ocean.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Yeah, go, uh go throw it into the river. Walk
have a a little.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Ceremony, yeah exactly. Yeah, we'll have a full ceremony. But
I am your homie telling you don't do this ever again.
Ever again. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
That is unstable. That that is serial killer. Stable is creepy.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
It's creepy enough to have to ask Jack chat geete.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
But it's.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
How do I break up with this guy?

Speaker 2 (40:04):
My favorite thing about you say, it's not even a bit,
it's just literally overgetting. Yeah, that's my favorite.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Don't my mind is programmed to be like fight the
AI overlords and don't remember the name.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Well, good luck to the AI overlord's fantasy football team.
We will be Uh, we need four more people, so
get your names in the hopper before we get to September. Second,
let's jump into it. We've It's funny. I felt like
I was gonna have to really pressure, really apply some
pressure on you to watch this Cowboys documentary. And now

(40:39):
you're six episodes in and I've only watched two.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
So I'm just trying to get it over with because
I was like, I just need to know, like A
I knew there was gonna be some great parts about
the catch. Sure, the Niners, we were the team to be,
y'all should have never won in ninety two. There was
no holding, There was some there was some plays that
were questionable on that you know, and how about them

(41:03):
Cowboys would have never been a thing?

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yeah, because that was that was ninety two after the
NFC Championship game. I think a lot of people forget
even the small part I don't know's it's giants padres
and we're talking cowboys. Don't be distracted. It's the first inning.
Even at that man, it was a great kidch So

(41:26):
it was Dwight Clark's the A lot of people I
think assumed that that was after one of the Super
Bowl wins, that Jimmy's about them cowboys. That was after
the NFC, after finally getting past the Niners in the
championship game. I want to go back start we're gonna do.
I'm gonna have the whole series done by the time

(41:49):
we're back in the room next Monday, So I mean,
it gets good.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Like I wanted to hear about the White House more,
and actually seeing the front of the White House, it
looks like a how I like rented, Like when I
was like, oh, it's just there was a random house
and who's who's the who's the neighbors in this? Like
the neighbors were living their musclage, you know, you know
everybody in there. They I love the montage they did.

(42:15):
Oh I don't know much about that. I never did that.
The in comes Michael Irving, all right, let me break
it down for you.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
I'll tell you how we got this room over here.
For this this room over here, for this see, I
haven't even I haven't gotten there yet. I'm only two
episodes in. I've seen the clip you're talking about where
he's like, we got weed in this room, we got
cocin eggs.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
In this room.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
We've got girls in every room, and you just go
room to room. Yeah, and that's exactly. I mean again,
I think for this documentary is great for.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
So you are you at ninety two right now? Like
when the ninety two.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Finished, I finished the second episode, Okay, so I am.
I think episode three starts with that first NFC Championship
game at Candlestick.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yeah, yeah, so it starts there and then it kind
of like doubles back like I thought the first two
episodes were like him buying the team and then going
one in fifteen and Troy and then getting his whole
buddy roommate Jimmy Johnson and stuff, you know, which another
fact I did not know they were roommates in Arkansas

(43:22):
and played on Arkansas.

Speaker 7 (43:23):
See.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
And that's where that's where I think for talking about
who this documentary is for, Like, it's been interesting, you know,
like my uncle is twelve twelve or so years older
than me, Is that right? Yeah, yeah, No, he's like
he's like fourteen years older than me. So he was.

(43:44):
He's the same uncle that during these Super Bowls in
the nineties was paying me five dollars a quarter if
I stayed absolutely quiet, if I didn't make a single noise,
I would get five dollars for the quarter. But he
would always ended up tickling me and get me to squeal.
So they're like, got no money, you're not getting it.

(44:05):
But so it's been funny. If he's been drunk, he's
been telling me, uh, yeah, it's on moonshine. That's what
we do in the Hillbillies. Why are you acting surprised
the that's my heritage. Also, you're attacking so tread lightly,
tread very very lightly. No, it's been funny. He I

(44:26):
was surprised to hear how much he was enjoying it
because he's very much the you know Gen X Cowboys
fan in there.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
He knew Tom Landry exactly.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
He had that bridge, that connection that his his childhood
was when the Cowboys were becoming quote unquote America's team,
which they talk about, Yeah in the you know, first
couple episodes, that first episode, I think so he had
the memories of what it was before Jerry Jones, the
process and how slow and ugly it was at the

(45:02):
beginning of Jerry Jones buying the team, and then obviously
the pretty quick greatness that it would get to. And
now the thirty years wandering in the desert.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
It was a three ye three. They went three years
that was just horrible. And then that's when they got
im it and he started getting the rushing Rookie of
the Year, two rushing titles.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
And yeah, because that's the other thing, you know. Mike
Irvin Playmaker was there the last year of Landry, which
is something I kind of forgot about. I remember him
being there the year before Troy, but I'd forgotten that
that was still.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Yeah, and I knew about all the Steelers the rest
of the old regime and all like kind of like texture.
It's like everybody you know acts a certain way. You know,
act like you've been there. There was no celebrating and
kind of stuff like that, like how your grandpa was like,
I can't believe they're dancing, you know, but it was like.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Tom Landry was attended Highland Park Methodist Church. He was
the most conservative Dallas prototype that you could come up with.
It was very much the antithesis of what Michael Irvin was.
It was very much the opposite of having anyone nicknamed
the playmaker on a Tom Landry roster like that just wasn't.

(46:23):
That's not how the Cowboys do things, or at least
it wasn't until Jerry bought it. It's it's as soon
as it started and you get the spaghetti western music, uh,
you know, the same music Metallica starts all their shows
with that classics Sierra Leone, you know, soundtrack back drops.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Looking at that was I instantly was like, Okay, this
Tarantino very much what they were going for.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Yeah, like old school, but I will So it's it's
Kurt Gibson's sons that are doing the documentary. They're the
ones that are producing, directing it, and they do the
They've done the Untold series on Netflix. If you have
have done you know, those untold sports stories, so they have.

(47:20):
I think this is definitely the biggest thing they've ever done.
But clearly you could see instantly they had a vision
for this thing. And even you know, when I was
making the roommate watch it last night, she pointed out
She's like, all the players are in front of the
back drops. Berry's flipping off the camera Switzer when they

(47:41):
show him, and then when they showed Jerry, it's Jerry's
full desk with his name. That was immediately Steph goes, oh, okay,
so this is Jerry Jones fluff piece. I was like, yeah, okay, yes,
but I think we're going to add actually get some

(48:03):
not insight, but like even the stuff I already know
from what I've watched so far through two episodes, the
member barriers are pretty strong, and when it's as well
done as as it has been so far.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Just they some of it will pop back in because
of the whole riff between when after Jimmy got canned.
It's great because they just go back and forth with
them about like their feud and whatnot, and him going
on to Fox and then having to talk about the
Cowboys and stuff. Just after winning the second Super Bowl

(48:40):
and who's got the cohone's the fire a two time
winning Super Bowl champion.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Well, the same guy that has the cojones to fire
Tom Landry? Yeah who the city of Dallas ends up
giving a parade to Yeah you had Tom Landry Day
and this is where again. I mean we're talking eighty eight,
eighty nine. You know, I'm two three years old, I'm
six seven, you know, during the Super Bowl runs, Like

(49:10):
I vaguely remember some of this, Yeah, but most of
it is from the retelling from my dad, my uncle,
my grandpa, or or seeing you know, random NFL films
covering it. But I think for the forty and under
NFL fan yeah, Like I don't think it's common knowledge

(49:34):
that Dallas had did a parade for Tom Landry after
Jerry Jones had fired him. Or how about when uh,
you know, Jerry even admitting the you know, I've always
heard the story of Jerry and Jimmy going to the
Mexican food restaurant. Yeah, and you know, getting the picture
in the paper the next day.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
End up being Tom Landry's favorite Mexican restaurant.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
I did with Tom Landry. Pictures all over the wall,
the But like small stuff like that I've always heard.
But it's pretty fun to see the old clips. The
fact that they bill O'Reilly when he was still a
w FAA. I saw young Chris collins Worth. Chris, Yeah,
the worst anchor ever. The uh, now here's a guy

(50:21):
there was there was another young another guy that would
go on to well, of course.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Skip Skip Skip could never get that joy he wanted
he was.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
He was a big contributor in that era, not only
because he was the Cowboys beat rider, but he was
also the first voice that was ever heard on The
Ticket in Dallas, the sports talk station that dominates the
airwaves up there and has since nineteen ninety three. Skip

(50:55):
Bayless was the original morning show host on the Ticket.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Andy, like they said during the Dynasty run, he had
full access and was writing a book about him, and
he's like, I got hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of
hours access, so I was there everywhere and I'm on.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
It's also the book where he suggested Troy Aikman was gay,
which led.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
To I'm at the racist part.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Troy would never do anything when he was a Fox employee.
He would never go on any of the Fox shows
to talk NFL because they employed Skip Bayless, and that
was as recent as like up to you know, two
three years ago when Joe and Troy joined ESPN and
now they do all the hits with s VP or

(51:41):
whoever else. Troy refused to do anything with Fox except
call games because they because Skip was there, you know,
high paid attractions. Small details though, who.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Got the last lap on that one course? Yeah, Troy.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
The the production value of the people doing this. This
was one of the first things I noticed, besides the
spaghetti western music.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
During the intros.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
The first time Jerry appears on screen after the intros,
it's a Johnny Cash song that's playing in the background. Okay,
the name of the song is Arkansas Loving Man. Listen
to the lyrics. This is how the song starts. And
this is as you're getting flashbacks to Jerry as college

(52:34):
football player.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Jerry quote.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Some men were born in poverty, some were born with wealth.
I was born a loving man, and I just can't
help myself with a man that we have pictures of
him squeezing waitresses up tops at bars in Dallas. He's
had a fun baby with a flight attendant, or not

(52:57):
even a.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Finding that that's going to come on the documentary.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
I God, no, no, they're not getting any I think
this is as close as we're gonna get to referencing
any of that. Because I didn't you talk about the
White House. They're more than happy to share the stories,
the secrets of the players.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Yeah, because as he says he wants to all year
round soap opera.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
But we're not getting We're not gonna get Jerry's secrets.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
What they did. They did say one thing. He's like, oh,
Jerry would drink, he would come out with us and
want to be party with us and be one of
the guys.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
And you know, it's like, again, I think that's the
closest you're gonna get to any actual details of Jerry's
skeletons in the closet. The next line, the woman have
all made over this old boy ever since I was born.
But that's why these old Arkansas traveling shoes are so
well worn. That was the song choice in the background.

(53:46):
As soon as I heard it last night, I just
died laughing, explaining the stuff, the lyrics of using that
I was a luming man. Yeah, exactly. The a couple
other I had from it. The footage of the Saturday
Night massacre, the intro press conference where Jerry is announcing

(54:09):
that Jimmy's the new head coach. He's announcing the firing
of Tom and Tech Shram and Gil Brandt and all
the guys literally Tech, Tom, Tech's and Gil. Where the
three figures that single handedly built the Cowboys through the seventies,
you know, sixties, seventies, eighties, until.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
And even until the nine Ers took over the eighties.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Well, and that's the thing in I think it was
the eighty five season. They started the season really really well,
really good, and then Danny White got hurt. I think
they were like six and two to start the year,
and then from Danny White's injury, it was all downhill
until Jerry bought the team and that was where so
like when they the documentary kind of made it sound

(54:57):
like the Cowboys had been terrible for ten years. It
had been like two and a half years, but that
was so out of the.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Norm for them. But they weren't. They weren't winning NFC championships. Yeah, No,
they were just because Danny got to Joe Montana's first
was eighty two, Yeah, and then they had elapsed eighty
six and eighty seven or eighty eight, eighty nine, ninety
uh what was it. Steve Young came in and that

(55:25):
was the ninety two when Montana got injured and Young
was the first one to come on.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
But Montana came was healthy.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Yeah. The year before Montana won the MVP, So it was.
It was like, what do you do? You got the
legend you know himself Joe Montana back there, But this
guy just won the MVP and he's killing it. He
was Michael Vick before Michael Vick, you know, like no
one ran the ball like he did.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
No, he was Roger Staubach is what he was like
in terms of like did Roger run?

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Oh? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, big.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
The you mentioned it. Michael Irvin is the star of
the documentary, even just through two episodes, and I know
it's only gonna get more and more. He is. I
would watch, I would watch an eight part playmaker documentary.
Just give me full Mike. He was the fifteenth of
seventeen children.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Yeah, I was born to be a wide receiver. That
doctor tried to spake me and I caught his hand. Yes,
so good.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
I had that note to have it again, just and
you know, watching it specifically with the roommate, you know,
she's always seen Michael Irvin the media personality or the
clips when you know, when he gets so torqued up
and is yelling about the Cowboys on NFL network or something,

(56:46):
that's the Michael Irvin. She knows, she doesn't know the
intent that MF for wide receiver actual you know, early twenties,
mid twenties superstar Michael Irvin.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
So it's been fun for me to see her be
like Miami Hurricane, Michael exactly her.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Like last night she was like, oh yeah, Like I
was like, yeah, I'm telling you he was.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
He was different. He was in in in more ways
than one.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
He was.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Yeah. The him talking about how you know, Jerry became
a father figure to him in some of those early
episodes because he had lost his father to cancer right
as he was was getting into the league. I mean
I would I would watch.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
A Michael Irvin documentary. I like, like the one thing
that stood out to me was like he was like
I gave Jerry a list of all the old Tom
Landry players that gotta go, Like they gotta go, they
gotta go, you know, because like Jimmy went in there
and man, he ran them hard like college kids, like
college kids.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Yeah, And that was the other thing. It's listening to
Irvin talk about some of the veterans on that team
that were telling him like, no, this is the pros,
we don't do that.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Yeah, you know you're talking about like the Gillman's game, right,
it was just like oh waity twitty and stuff like
that instead of just being like, let's be dirty dollars.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
No, it wasn't like U.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
It wasn't the Oakland Raiders or at that time or were.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Getting off the plane at University of Miami in full
military fatigues in full camo to show. I did love
that they showed that fifty eight to seven final score
in the Catholics versus Convicts game when they spank Notre Dame. Yeah,
you mentioned Jerry. I think there's again, if you're forty

(58:42):
and under watching this documentary, there's probably gonna be some
things you didn't know unless you grew up in in
DFW area. There's a lot that you're gonna learn, like
the fact that Jerry Jones was a national champion offensive
lineman at the University of Arkansas co team captain. Also

(59:04):
the fact that he did his thesis at Arkansas titled
Marketing in Football.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Yeah, like he was all ready like he always went
to own a football team.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
And this is where there's so many There's so many
things about that that now in twenty twenty five, drive
me crazy. But putting myself back in that time in
nineteen eighty eight eighty, Like, Jerry is a marketing genius,
and it sucks to have to admit that, Like, the

(59:36):
Cowboys would not be worth thirteen billion dollars if it
wasn't for Jerry being the best marketer of his generation.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
You have, so you haven't gotten to the prime time
like when prime gets higher. Oh no, not yet. So
he's not so much a marketing genius because all of
them knew how to market because they all did split
shares back then. You know, all the jerseys went into
the kitty and everybody got a piece of the kiddie,
you know what I'm saying. So, like that's how every

(01:00:09):
ad revenue, every sponsor.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Yeah, that's why Miller Lyte is the official beer of
the Dallas Cowboys, but bud Light is the official beer
of the NFL. It's my Coca Cola is the official
drink of the NFL, but Pepsi is the official drink
of the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Exactly. He was just the first one to sit there
and say, f your rules, I'm gonna do it here
and let's see who wins in court. And that's where
it kind of ends, Like that's where I ended it
on and I'm surprised. To me, I know who already
won that battle, you know, but it was just he
was the first one to break ranks and I always

(01:00:44):
thought that would might should have been old buddy on
the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Yeah, al Davis.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Al Davis seems like he like as much as he
got screwed on his stadiums and stuff. I feel like, man,
why didn't he just break ranks and stuff? And but
you know, is that genius or is that just being
a dick?

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
I think it's genius to be the first to do it.
And the fact that now you know, selling the stadium
tours of the art that's at the stadium, selling the
you know, having the star in Frisco, being a multi
like you could go grab a pizza for lunch and

(01:01:26):
watch the Cowboys practice like stuff like that. I think
it sucks for the overall value of the product on
the field, but it's great for his bottom line, which
you know it the fact that the Cowboys value is
so astronomically higher than everyone else. I think you have

(01:01:46):
to give the props to Jerry for being a marketing
genius because it wouldn't have happened without him. I'm just unfortunate.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
I'm just wondering if you took Jimmy Hoffa's money and
did buy the Chargers.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
I was thinking about that too, how much different would
the league be and would see I do think there
is a there is a sense of it wouldn't have
been the same in any other city except for maybe

(01:02:23):
La or New York. I mean, Dallas being the not cultural,
culturally important outside of the jfk assassination, but you know,
the Dallas the stupid Dallas TV show, Like Dallas was
just this weird.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
It's not the Richmond tropolis that it is now.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Yeah, and it was, and there were parts, but not
nearly what it is now. It was just much more
of I think it was much higher held in the
consciousness of our country and where Dallas was like, oh
that's Dallas. Like now it's like, you know, that's Dallas,
you know what I'm saying. Like it it had more
of a relevancy to.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
It than I think, mostly because of the jfk assassination.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
I think the JFK assassination. The I mean the Dallas
TV show was huge. I mean that was outside of
mash that was the most viewed episode I think ever
at the time when it did shoot himself or something,
it was all a dream, right, I think he woke
up and they had just all been Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
I don't hell, I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
We used to go to south Fork Ranch where that
was filmed every year first celebration Freedom. The big k
were what were the call letters, k T kt L
Y something like that, ninety four to one the Christian
music station. We'd always go celebrate Freedom July fourth up
there at South Fork Ranch. But yeah, I'm going to

(01:03:52):
burn through the rest of it because I'm enjoying it
way more than I thought I would, and that equally
upset me as much as it does.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
It's it's a rundown nostalgia lane, you know what I'm saying.
But it also it's a it's a.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Drug I need to hit from these days with how
the last thirty years, because again, put yourself turns my
ass that like y'all got Dion, See, I'm I'm excited
to get to the San Francisco. You know, the Charles Haley,
the Ken Norton, Dion, you know a bunch of the
guys that played on both sides of the rival lost

(01:04:30):
draft picks.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
He should have been suspended. He should have never went
down like he did. Some shady crap. Did it get
get that? Well?

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
I think that's the other side of it. We'll move
on after this. The you know Jerry as the wildcatter
oilman is there are so many variables that if they
had just gone slightly different, there would never be a

(01:05:00):
national consciousness, national understanding of who Jerry Jones is. He
would just be a random oil guy who you know,
might be rich, but wouldn't be as well known.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
The best example like the Hunt family, the family that
owns the Chiefs. They got all of their money because
they're great, great great maybe one more great grandfather won
a land track in a game of poker, and it
just so turned out that they struck the most oil

(01:05:37):
that had ever been found in the world at that time.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Jerry talking about that oil.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Was just and see that's what I'm saying, like, that's
the that was the cheese factor thousand percent. It's clear
he's doing it. He just wants to get another cameo
on land Man or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
That Taylor shared.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Exactly that was I'm just like, oh my god, and
again I knew, I knew we were gonna get a
lot of that, But I'm looking forward to get to
the actual Niners Cowboys as I start season three or
episode three after the show tonight, we'll burn through a

(01:06:16):
couple more and we'll do uh great.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
My Yankees just blew a save.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
You know you're being helped out at least by the
fact that no one at the Astros and Mariners can't
win games.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Were God, man, can we just get a closer? Can
we just get a closer? Two outs in the bottom
of the ninth and we gave up two runs? Like
what is wrong with the Yankees? Encloser? Right now? We
give us our give us Chapman back, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
And he's been great for Boston. So you had three
k's and the ten last night or a couple of
nights ago. Uh the only other before we get into
some X files, the only cow notes I had you
mentioned Monday night, we mentioned a little bit of Jaden Blue.
He is officially set for his preseason debut Friday. So

(01:07:08):
if he shows the slightest signs of uh life potential, anything,
he'll he'll jump everyone else in the pecking order because
there's been no Miles Sanders Davonte Williams deuce. The Deuce
Vaughn story needs to go away. We're done with that experiment.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
I think, yeah, if he can make if he can
pop one time in that game with uh, with making
his debut, I think he will set himself up nicely
the whole rock, the fifty three man roster. I think
we're going to see potentially some surprise cuts. Not I

(01:07:51):
shouldn't say surprise because they'll be based on performance, but
I think just the way it's shaping up where I
think we talked about the Monday too, where Joe Milton
not being able to reallylidify the backup role. That means
you're probably gonna end up carrying three quarterbacks. So that
takes a roster spot away from another position.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
But most teams carried three quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Uh yeah, well they the Cows had been doing the
again talking most teams compared to the Cowboys, they had
been doing the one backup one on a practice squad.
So it was like last year Will Greer on the
practice squad, Cooper Rush as the backup, and you know
Dak as the starter. That's also, most teams carry three

(01:08:39):
quarterbacks because most teams are actively developing a young quarterback
at all times, something the Cowboys don't do, as we
talked about previously talking about their draft history with quarterbacks.
But it's going to be interesting to see how the
fifty three man roster shakes out. The only other note
I had for you, Luke Schoonmaker exited practice yesterday. I

(01:09:04):
haven't seen an update yet on him, but that twenty
twenty three draft is only it's just looking like there's
you're not going to get any body from that draft
class that is on this roster in two years. That
was the Mazzie Smith first round, Schoonmaker second round overshown

(01:09:26):
Tomorroo but injuries, he can't stay on the field, can't
stay healthy. So yet to see exactly what his career
is gonna look like in five years. Fojoko Awesome Richards
who might end up getting cut because the seventh round
pick from last year, Nate what was his name, Nate Thomas,

(01:09:49):
is out performing him in camp so far. It was
also your Deuce Vaughn year Deuce in the sixth and
Jalen Brooks in the seventh and Eric Scott Junior, who's
already off the was a sixth round pick to corner.
So that entire draft class that's crazy potentially could be
a full whiff. Barring the only saving grace would be

(01:10:13):
Overshown stays healthy for the next five seasons, doesn't miss
major time. But outside of that, you're they think.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
You're gonna give him a contract after being injured that
many times. No, no, not not a He's gonna be
twenty four to twenty Yeah, so he'll be You'll have
like three, two or three more years.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
And this is why I think, this is why it
stands out so much. Twenty twenty draft, Col's got CD,
Trayvon Diggs, and Tyler Biadis who's already moved on. But
at least you got CD and Trayvon at the top
of that class. Then twenty twenty one was your Michael Parsons,
but it was also your Osa Odigizuwa. It was there

(01:10:54):
was one more mcwamu's still on the roster as well
from twenty twenty one. He a six round draft pick.
He might be your starting corner come September. Fourth up
in Philly. Twenty twenty two draft was arguably one of
their better ones. That was your Tyler Smith, your first
round Sam Williams who apparently sounds like it is fully

(01:11:16):
recovered from the injury, having a good camp. Jaalen Tolbert
a wide receiver might be on the fringe roster cut,
but Jake ferguson the tight end. You just extended to
Ron Bland, who you're gonna have to pay after this year.
But that's five guys, six guys. That was also your
Matt will lets go. That was the Amari Cooper draft pick.

(01:11:37):
All they got out of that. And Damone Clark, who
as much as I talked about the uninspiring play from
last week, and Damone Clark actually played. He looked really
good again at linebacker. Actually, when the defensive line can
allow linebackers to play it more freely without guys already

(01:11:58):
on him. He looked at least serviceable again, which is
more than you could say from last year. But then
that twenty twenty three class compared to the three before it, Uh,
you're not getting any kind of team building from from
that year.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
So that that I think gets some scouts bro.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Yeah, again, I it's hard to it's one of the
I don't know. I would like to see how it
stacks up compared to other NFL, Like what is the
average hit rate on getting a starter, like the average
starters a team gets from every draft class, Cause it's
gotta be two and a half three every year.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
I would say, like, you want to someone that you're
gonna sign after their rookie contract is something I would
like to see.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
And you're assuming you're gonna get that with your first
round pick? Yeah, second round pick. It's still feeling pretty
good about Yeah, so at least two guys you're wanting
to give second contracts to pop and then everyone else
you're hoping for someone to pop. Yeah, and they had
been I mean, we just ran through it. They had
been nailing that every year until twenty twenty three. In it,

(01:13:06):
you know, twenty twenty four wasn't so far at least
doesn't appear to be much better.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
Stand pitch hit too home run to run, home run.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Tied it back up or won it?

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
I earned the bottom of the tenth now ghost runner? Nice, Hey, buddy,
stan Stan, you want to talk about someone who's been hot,
He's I don't he's hot. Gian Carlo. His mom calls
him Michael. I'm gonna call him John Carr, call him
John Card Like when he's bad like this, I don't
call him Michael.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
Let's do some X Files LG. Shall Well. I mentioned
the tie in at the top of the episode. Apparently
LG is burning back through.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
The X Files.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Yeah, the first time. What did you say, the first
time since you watched it? Actually?

Speaker 6 (01:13:53):
Yeah, back in the early nine days. Yeah, maam, yeah,
good times, good time. I'm on episode four of season
one right now.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
I yeah, I think you're gonna enjoy the ride back,
gonna get together?

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
What is going on?

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
I'll just wait till season seven.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
I made the I found a list online a couple
of years ago that was just all of the actual
like Cannon canonical episodes where it actually furthered the overarching story.
It wasn't just basically it cuts out all the Monster
of the Week episodes. Yeah, and I got the roommate
to start burning through those with me, and I kind

(01:14:36):
of forgot how awesome the X Files was. If I'm
being honest, I think you'll I think you'll enjoy that.
That rewatch LG.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
What.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
I got a couple clips for y'all. We'll start with
the one that was sent to me the most. This
was actually turns out it was over in Houston, And
there were so many good jokes delivered regarding this clip.
Just look looking through the retweets, Yeah, the comments and whatnot.
So it's we've all seen it before. It's a couple

(01:15:07):
of influencers sitting at a table. They got their camera
set up. They've got this whole spread of food. I mean,
we've got the guy that does it now here on
case at what's his elder doing? The elder eat Like
we've we've all seen this content. It's the the beard
guy that eats all the food, the English dude.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
They come down and pound down a couple of hot
dogs or a dog file.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Yeah, there you go. So hey, I saw it's a
Popper burger Burger of the week, not poppers, Yeah, popper.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
Popper like saying poppers, no popper.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
That's funny. It's just it's just funny. That's represent the pepper.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
Know how to read the pole? I did? I don't
know how to read it?

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
Yes, can anyone help read pole?

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
This?

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
The best caption I saw regarding this was okay, which
Georgia football player did this? And that this was drive
their vehicle right into the restaurant.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
I love it. Oh yes, I was gonna say, I've
only seen the one where it's slow mo, and I
was like, I was like, I want to see the
one where it's like full speed. That was the best

(01:16:35):
case scenario. But why are they wearing the same thing,
same clothes?

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Production value, consistency, Yeah, the amount of question. He's doing
food influencer videos with his girl, Like, yeah, buddy, I
think I think we can all assume that's the case.
The The Fear of I mean, South Park did the

(01:17:03):
great episode the Fear of Elderly Drivers, Like I thought
it was in park. I thought I had put it
in park. Just smashing into a place.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Oh my step mom smashed into a store spectacular, but
I think drunk.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
Yeah, that's the other. Yeah, that's the other part of it.
We had a couple of those growing up in town
where someone uh forgot to put their car in park,
but also might have just taken.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Might have taken.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
Oh that's even better, Okay that One of my favorite
things is when you pull up to a gas station
or a liquor store and you just see all the
traffic poles are knocked crooked and you're like, hell, yeah, brother,
like I I know what you did here. So yeah,
that one. That one was sent to me multiple times,
and then.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
I could not.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Stop watching these these other videos earlier today. I don't
know what started it or how it started trending, but
I got sent so many videos of grown men playing
in these forty and under leagues or these thirty seven leagues,
full pads, full speed or as fast as a you know,

(01:18:14):
middle aged man football. Yes, oh body living living the
first of all, First of all, tell me if this
pregame hype pep talk is going to get you ready
to go lay some wood.

Speaker 4 (01:18:31):
So to speak, they need to mail us now. Bro
no diddy, broh diddy, Yeah, my last bro, that's ship up. No,
I'm horning.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
Oh, I'm just this guy. It's like I got two
games left in my career quote unquote career. He's like,
we they got to feel us.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Again.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
I'm just imagining. First of all, it's like we were
talking about my buddy playing in these grown leagues playing baseball.
It gets heated, but it's baseball, so there's not a
whole lot of contact.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
I thought we were gonna see some We're gonna see
them laying some wood.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
L G play that next clip.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
Yeah, Tim Tebow out there to handle it off. The
little Darrence bro he done got a little listen. I
thought he was onto something. I swear, I'm this motherfucker
moving right here. Now. Look at number nine. Just creep
up and just hit him with the body. Just tell
him to call off right now. He got to concussion.
I want Jim Tebow up.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
The hours of these videos earlier today because there are
so many. I didn't want to there are so many.
After after we played Micah talking on the phone a
couple of months ago, I forgot there. There was some
language in there that might not want to include. But

(01:20:07):
there are so many good clips of middle aged dudes
just getting their ship rocked running across the middle, or
a quarterback leaving them out to dry.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
Did you catch the Jamis Winston pregame speech while he's
eating Popeye's chicken.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Oh yeah, that's a classic.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
Yeah, pee oh pe e y e s Papa.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Look, I'm serious.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
I'll go out there with this good chicken.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
I'm serious about the Cowboys. Yeah, they're trying to trade
for Jamis, Like the Giants don't need him. He's never
gonna play a snap with Russ and now Jackson Dart.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
Yeah, come be the backup go be Colts. Danny Dimes
has got the starting job. I got that. I got
that for the lightning round. Uh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
If you haven't seen any of these, just look up
you thirty seven football on any social media and you will.
I guarantee you you will enjoy the next hour or
at least all Diddy I want. I'm horny. I popped
a blueto.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
I need that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
We need to get that drop. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
So yeah, we'll do when I when y'all all are
sending uh the same stuff. We'll do a little X
files every now and then when it pops up. But
let's get to the main suche because i'd really I
really thought it was all eyes on Thursday city council meeting. Yeah, uh,

(01:21:40):
until I saw the absurdity that happened at city Hall
or the courthouse wherever it was earlier today.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
I think it was a city hall.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
The So we've seen the you know, the people that
I think I talked about it. There was some protesters
at the Alamodome last week, and we've seen the groups
that have come out on both sides of Project Marvel,
host rallies, gatherings.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
Never once did I think we would end up in
the situation that we were in earlier today. And this
is a two minute clip from Casat. There are so
many tentacles, so many avenues, so many roads to go
down here. I don't even know where to start besides

(01:22:31):
just playing the video itself and then we'll go from there.

Speaker 8 (01:22:34):
We our city has had a number of great leaders,
real civil rights leaders, Henry B. Gonzalez, Right, what would
he be doing right now? What would Choco Mezza be
doing right now? What would Choco Mezza.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
Do be doing right now?

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
She'd be fighting for the people. She'd be demanding answers
and making sure our community got a good deal here,
not rushing through on this, That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Gospur's hmmm, pause it right there, lg oh god, okay,
hold on, hold on, well, go back like ten seconds.
So she, you know, references you feel the pulse of
the crowd right there, She references Henry B. She references
Choco uh, you know, longtime activist. She's feelings starting to

(01:23:26):
feel like she's getting the crowd support. She hears one
random person and he's gotta be or it's one of
her out of town uh, you know, carpet bagging political consultants.
Play that again, because not only does her ghostpurs go
first of all, it sounds like it might be the
first time she's ever said it. Secondly, zero response from

(01:23:50):
the crowd, and then listen to the follow up that
she has after that falls flat.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
That's right, go spars, go Spurs Jesus, you had a question.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Goddamn, this is where we find ourselves. Spurs Jesus is
holding a shovel head that just says build it. Our
mayor is shouting, go spurs go to zero response. After
the press conference that she is now commandeered was a
local business, business leaders, hospitality groups, and Spurs Jesus doing

(01:24:30):
a rally in supportive Project Marvel right out in front
of her office, So it's not like she traveled out
of her way to go down there. She like, I'm
not critiquing that part at all, but just all of
the absurdity.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
How would you give that guy any pub.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
Well that's a whole nother question. Yeah, that spurs Jesus
Us with a hot topic take. I wonder what you're
gonna want.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
I just love the fact that we have Spurs Jesus
is gonna think about all the poverty stricken people in
our city.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
Like the real would be very Jesus, are you just
saying just build it? I think it's the shovel head
saying build all these poor Yeah. I think it's a
little bit of both, that all these poor people. The
I just love the fact that we now have tickets
that we now have recorded in perpetuity. Here saying Spurs Jesus,

(01:25:24):
I think you had a question or whatever she said,
they're playing. What are you going to say to the
people you said not on your watch?

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
What are you going to say to the people of
San Antonio when it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Happens on your watch the Spurs decide to move to
Austin and you're left without what about the economic impact
study of what happened? Pause it there real quick. So
his question, his question was good until it turns to
what if they up and moved to Austin. Spurs aren't
moving to Austin, Spurs aren't moving anywhere. The Spurs are
gonna end up getting the stadium they want. This is

(01:25:56):
all politics at.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
This point, and just this bad side Jesus leans on.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
Correct a second amendment, Jesus, pro business, Jesus. The the
honest arguments that both sides are making in pockets. I
think that part of the conversation absolutely needs to be
had that actually talking about but the account.

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
But when one side is allocated reports on it, when.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
One side says we have to do this or they're
going to move to Austin, Vegas wherever, and then the
other side exactly and the other side of fear mongers
of well, we're not going to be able to do
anything for our poverty residents if we build this stadium.
Like again, I think we have done a decent job

(01:26:52):
of pointing out the absurdity of both of those positions
while agreeing with the mayor on a line of things,
while also calling out her style of communication. Let's call it.
Let's like going down and taking the microphone at a
rally a pro project.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
He had the microphone in his hand, They like, why
why I would have been like, get this clown out.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
Of here now. Again, as you've heard a lot of
people's spokesman, No, and that's the thing you've heard a
lot of people talk about, Well, San Antonio is a
top ten city in America. That what we saw on
the steps of city hall, that's not stupid, that's not
the seventh biggest city in America type of behavior, type
of shit like that, that's embarrassing. The amount of this is.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
Going to be on John Oliver, dude, damn it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Oh we can only god, I would hope, I would
hope we get to that level.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
On Bill Maher, John Oliver anything, dude, like we're gonna
get roasted.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
Well, if it's on mar no one will see it
at least.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
Uh. He like that Bill Maher.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
I used to love him. I used to love arm soured.
It's not like it's like in the last year. It's
like like five six years.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
He's consistent.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
Yeah, but he stopped he started it stopped being as
funny and it was more like targeted. It was a
lot of what like John Stewart was before he went
on self imposed hiatus, like it started. You could just
tell it's kind of started to just be like mean
and not as funny. Yah, that's kind of where I lost.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
I think he's trying to like, I think he's getting
so upset of like where because he's an old school liberal,
you know, and he's like this woke crap has made
us look stupid, and I think he's getting a little
bitter on that. But he's not going to like yeah,
but he's not going to take the bait to be like,
now I'm going to be a Republican.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
He's exactly what so many other people. He's old school liberal,
like there are plenty of new school liberal like Nick Mullen,
Adam Friedland, like the old Cometown Crew, like there are
any of young liberals.

Speaker 1 (01:29:02):
Did you ever ever listen to that? The Cometown Group
one of.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
The most influential podcast ever. It was Nick Mullen, Adam Friedlin,
and Stave, the big fat stand up comedian Greek dude
from Baltimore. It was one of the absolute I cannot
recommend enough going to find but it was that same
kind of It was very very liberal, yeah, but also

(01:29:26):
very very and not woke, Let's put it that way.
It was everything was a punching bag. But now back
to just the absurdity of that playing out. Obviously we
all know both sides are rallying support for Thursday. We
talked about it on the last episode. The actual city

(01:29:49):
Council vote that the two votes were going to get
tomorrow in the meeting, the first vote that the mayor
wants asking for the strategic pause, and then the second
vote being actual voting on moving forward on the agreed
to term sheet. And I think there's it feels again

(01:30:10):
that's why all of this, like her popping down there
and asking spurs Jesus if he had a question, it
all me. I think there are ways, like, for example,
a lot of people are learning that we have you know, democratics, Democrats,
Socialists of America City council members and people that like

(01:30:35):
Gina was recommended by DSA, although they I think they
called it, what did they say? It was something like
it's a real Sophie's choice for mayor, Like they didn't
like her, but it was better of the two options
in their eyes. Obviously my city council member and district too,
Jalen member of DSA, the only actual member. And the

(01:31:01):
way I think the way he has been messaging on
X versus the way the mayor has been messaging one
of those fils very actually connected to the community, very
in you know, in awareness of the conversations that actually

(01:31:22):
are taking place versus the mayor's. It very much feels
like it's just not being it's not being combated in
the same style. It's very much and she even says
it later in this clip will play more in a second.
You know, it's like, but if we do what I want,

(01:31:43):
I mean, what I think we should do. But that's
a bit of a Freudian slip in a way, because
it does really just feel like you're doing it purely
for yourself. The optics aren't great. It doesn't feel like
you're doing it actually for the poverty stricken.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
Citizen brand exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
And that's where I think a lot of the people
that you know, whether you like I think I'm one
of the ones that I tend to agree with a
lot of what she's saying, but the messaging and the
way she's presenting it absolutely turns me off to the ideas,
even though I still support them. Think it's not a

(01:32:22):
bad idea, but we also want the stadium that's correct,
and just the messaging about it it absolutely it does
mean something as silly stupid as that sounds. Play some more.
That's gotta pop, Yeah, you gotta connect, and you're.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
Left without what about the economic impact study of what
happens to San Antonio and the economic impact and the
Spurs lead So to.

Speaker 3 (01:32:46):
Your point, the Spurs have never said that they would
leave San Antonio.

Speaker 7 (01:32:51):
That is that is a that is a comment.

Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
That is a fearful comment. I understand that, But the
Spurs have never said that. The Spurs have never said, hey,
city council, if you don't vote on a term sheet
on Thursday.

Speaker 8 (01:33:04):
We're leaving.

Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
They've never said that. Hold on, that's we've never said that.
We've never said that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
But that's not the question.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
I understand that, but that but that is not and
I understand people are trying to frankly scare people into
into into that, but again, to do this right. My
concern is, folks, oh, I am answering the question. So
the Spurs, if the Spurs is decision. I want a deal.

(01:33:32):
That's why I'm working so hard for it.

Speaker 7 (01:33:34):
But if we do the things that I want that
I'm asking for, more for the people and more public engagement,
people will vote for this in in November, people will
vote more.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
People will vote for.

Speaker 3 (01:33:46):
It if they understand they're getting a good deal. I
think fewer people will support it if they feel like
they don't have all the data and they're getting this
rammed through.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
So we are.

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
We are working very hard. I've told all the Spurs,
do you have never spurs.

Speaker 7 (01:33:58):
Jesus, you have ever heard me say I do not
want to deal.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
Let's get a deal that requires having the data and
that requires public input. That's what that requires.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
She's talking like the fact that is dressing spurs.

Speaker 1 (01:34:15):
Jesus. Got to stop.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
I couldn't stop laughing about.

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
We're gonna get a roasted like dude. The dude was
just well, vollun chance. My question like, what did you
take a Charlie Kirk freaking like montage video before you
went up there and didn't yeah, answer the question.

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
There's definitely a big Stephen Crowder, would.

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
You classify a woman and a man x Cromison and Crimson.
It's like, dude, that's not listen to listen to her,
you know what I'm saying. But it's not that's we
don't need, we don't need to engage in questions that aren't.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
Real exactly, you know. And that's why I'm not going
to Austin. Her answer to that I think was really
good until she kind of let it slip a little
bit where it's like, if we do what I want,
then I'll get the credit for more people supporting this.
In November, when the county votes on it, and again
that's just my I think that's I think there's a

(01:35:15):
lot of people that are supportive of her, yeah, that
are in agreement with the people that can't stand her
because of stuff like that. And at the end of
the day, like you said, I think Thursday, I think
we're gonna end up seeing Hersville the city managers term

(01:35:36):
sheet pass and then we get to November on the
county vote and hopefully, hopefully we're done seeing spurs. Jesus
pop up at city Hall because I uh, I don't
know how much we.

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
Give that man. A dude like, he dresses like Jesus
and he goes to all the events and people buy
him shit. He's a beggar, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
And okay, so there there are layers to this too.

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
There are I guess Jesus was a beggar too. Whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
Also was a carpenter the raptor superfan. He's a chic dude,
a carsos from up there at all the games. So
he is has the money to buy the tickets to
be the super fan and also donates them to kids
and stuff. And I saw a bunch of people rushing
Tom like our superman or our super fan is a

(01:36:32):
grifter that dresses up as Jesus, completely sacrilegious and a
majority Catholic dominated stay. And then this guy is actually
paying for all of his stuff and giving his tickets
away to underprivileged children and.

Speaker 1 (01:36:50):
Or like I've been saying, I'm like, all these people
who want attention, go be an adult and go get
a stripper, Like, come on, you know, if you want
tension that bad, pay for it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
That's a problem. Though, as it's pretty funny, there is
some there is some humor or irony in the fact
that the guy being given all of this stuff for
free or being paid to appear as spurs Jesus at
events is also the one that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
Is like.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
Not thinking about like I'm just thinking about the bottom line.
I'm thinking about my nut, Like I gotta get my nut.
What about my nut?

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
Yeah? Yeah, but I mean okay, so what happens if
they leave town?

Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
And then yeah, I mean, well, but what's up with
the economics?

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
Then?

Speaker 1 (01:37:42):
Huh, Well, don't you answer the question. I'm not going
to answer a stupid questions. I would just like, I
would just say stuff like that because I'm like, that
is not like what if an asteroid hits the Spurs Stadium.
What happens then, Like, I'm not going to answer that
stupid question.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
Yeah, what else?

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
You got the next one? What next one? I was like,
that's dumb, get out here again.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
If nothing else, If we look back and you know
what is it twenty thirty two, If we look back
in seven years on this going to be over this
week that was in our local politics, I think I
think we'll have a lot of fun remembering when our
mayor said, Spurs, Jesus, I think you had a question.

Speaker 1 (01:38:27):
Is that then that's going to be a drop, Go
Spurs go, And you know it would be It wouldn't
be our first time to be on John Oliver, our
morning crew people, they would always snipe at each other,
the girl and the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
Oh yeah that was a'stabond.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
Yeah. They did a montage on John Oliver about them,
and I'm like, oh crap, we had we had a
lot of those.

Speaker 2 (01:38:51):
Uh, we had a lot of those drops at some
point when when that first ran. Uh, Eliger, let's get
to the Lking round. Try to stay a little more
on time tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:39:02):
Well we're gonna be on time.

Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
Maybe maybe I've got to I wanted to get to
it early because I've got a lot for the closer. Okay,
but I'll hit you with this first. I saw this number.
I know you've been bringing to the lightning round some
random statistical comparisons, and I call yeah, thank you, mayor
thank you, thank you. H Spurs News had this graphic

(01:39:33):
you put out. I think it was yeah earlier today.
So this is most dunks by a player aged thirty
nine or older since the year two thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
Oh, most dunks, I want to say, big men.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
You would naturally think of man. Yeah, the second, the
second guy on the list is a big man, and
most of them along the way are big men. And
this is from what time to what time since year
two thousand? Anyone thirty nine years or older the amount
of times they've dunked, So it has the answer is

(01:40:12):
the number one answer is obvious. Check No, it's the
guy who's still dunking nightly playing at forty years old.
Forty one years old, Lebron, Lebron so, but the number
Lebron has one hundred and twenty. The next closest is
Kevin Willis, former Spur at fifty nine. But here's some
of the funnier He was a bruiser he was. Here's

(01:40:34):
some of the funnier So Jordan only had twenty two
from age thirty nine or older. Genobili nine, same as TODJ. Gibson,
which is just kind of funny. But Genobili is still
dunking at nine times at thirty nine or older. That
was five more than Tim Duncan. Duncan only had four.

(01:40:57):
That was two more than David or Robinson. Actually, I
think that's a different Robinson. That's got to be a
different Robinson, right, David Robinson, he didn't play it until
thirty nine.

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
He wasn't last last year, like his back was about
blowing out in two thousand and three.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
Yeah, I don't think he was that. It's got to
be a different Well maybe I don't know. I'll do research.
But the other funny one, Dirk and Hakeem Olajawan both
had three.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
The fact that Dirk had.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
Three dunks after the age of thirty nine Jones, Yeah,
that one.

Speaker 1 (01:41:32):
That was the number.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
KG had one. Paul Pierce had one. That's about it
on that though. Oh Patrick Earing had twelve and that
was your last double digit guy on the list.

Speaker 1 (01:41:48):
So coming back to comparisons, I'll bring you one of
my one of my own, Babe Ruth and Shohei Otani,
all right, one hundred and fifty nine home runs, and
this is Baby with one hundred and fifty nine home
runs in his first six hundred and seventy four career games.

(01:42:10):
His win loss in pitching was thirty five and eighteen
in his first four hundred and fifty five career innings pitched.
Show Hey won sixty home runs in his first six
hundred and seventy four games and a win loss of
thirty five and nineteen in his first four hundred and

(01:42:30):
fifty five games.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
Oddly similar, like damn near exacts identical almost.

Speaker 1 (01:42:37):
That's crazy, man, Oh, it's so weird. That's why the
like the comparison. That's so out comparing Otawni to anybody
except Babe Ruth. Yeah, and Baby Ruth got to pitch
just because he told them I want.

Speaker 2 (01:42:54):
To pitch and then stopped pitching. Yeah, I think it.
What's the story behind it? Because it was a it
was like they he had started, he had gotten like
there was it wasn't an injury, but there.

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
Was some oh John Goodman back in the day, the babe.

Speaker 2 (01:43:12):
Yeah, there was some reason Uh, I might we might
have to follow up on that because I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (01:43:19):
Hit me LG.

Speaker 2 (01:43:22):
The uh. Speaking of Spurs, the Austin Spurs actually have
a new head coach there.

Speaker 1 (01:43:29):
Ye Jesus Moody, I apologize you were you?

Speaker 2 (01:43:36):
It turns out you were correct. Uh No, they hired
a This the only reason I'm saying it's kind of
a just funny connection because obviously I had had a
lot of success with Australian players, of course Patty, but
not just Patty. Now this Austin G League team, their

(01:43:59):
new coach. She's a dude named Jacob Chance. The last
two seasons he's been an assistant coach in the National
Basketball League, which is Australian league. So we're tapping back into.

Speaker 1 (01:44:14):
Roots. I like it. I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:15):
We need more Austin with the Aussie's are wild ass.
Aaron Bain's getting carried out by Timmy after celebrating at
the club. We need more Aussies. I think that could
be the key to deep postseason runs.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
Yeah, hit me o G. Alright, we have no other
than our second Homeland Security Christy Nome, who have, as
we all seen in the last South Park episode, really
likes puppies. She said that she will paint the border

(01:44:50):
wall blacks so it will make it harder to climb.
Why do we have dumbasses running stuff in our well?

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
Okay, Devil's advocate or not even Devil's advocate, but how
is that? What's the logic behind it? Black absorbs heat,
so it's making it hotter. Yeah, it's not like they
can't get a pair of gloves or nothing, or dig
underneath it. Maybe I'm correct me if I'm wrong, But
don't most crossings happen at night anyway?

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:45:24):
Possibly? Yeah, that just seems logical too.

Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
How much pain? How much of my tax dollars in
paint is going to go to make a rust colored
fence black?

Speaker 2 (01:45:36):
Yeah? I think you're going to lose that battle at
this point. It's literally a drop in the bucket. Hit me, LG.
You mentioned Daniel Jones Danny Dimes named the Colt Starter.
I didn't realize the more I read about it. The
Anthony Richardson pick fourth overall out of Florida after having
he had only played in like ten college games. Something ridiculous. Small.

(01:46:01):
You know. Bill Parcells used to always talk about when
he scouted college quarterbacks. The first number he looked at
was the amount of games they played, in the amount
of snaps they took. And if you if a guy
hadn't played two full seasons in college, unless he was just,

(01:46:21):
you know, unanimous top prospect, that was someone Bill didn't
spend a whole lot of more time scouting. The Anthony
Richardson won.

Speaker 1 (01:46:31):
They thought they had him Cam Newton, so reading more.

Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
They didn't think that. The late Jim Ersay thought that.
Oh and when Ersay passed away, that's kind of when
I think a lot of Colts beat riders and a
lot of people doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:46:49):
He's kind of like the he was like the trade.
Lancey doesn't have to touch. He can throw it down
the field seventy eighty yards in the air. But do
you remember a little out route touch or through the middle,
you know, do you.

Speaker 2 (01:47:01):
Remember a quarterback named Kyle Bowler. He was a Raven's
first round draft pick. He played at played at Cal.
It was a Cal Berkeley dude. He was his big thing.
I remember in the lead up to the NFL Draft
that year, there was a rumor going around that he

(01:47:22):
could be sitting on his knees at the fifty yard
line and still throw the football through the uprights. And
that was just this sign a thousand person exactly. And
it feels like at some point the league probably should

(01:47:46):
get an understanding or an idea that that's not what
makes a good quarterback. That's never been the identifier of
someone that's going to succeed. And we're seeing it with
Joe Milton and he looks like Nolan Ronny and every
time he throws a pass, no touch.

Speaker 1 (01:48:02):
It's like this, like the long the long drive, long
drive people. Yeah, they can hit the ball at the time. Oh,
that's a great comp Yeah, can they put Yeah, that's
that's exactly what it is. They ship it on the green.

Speaker 2 (01:48:15):
Yeah, you're saying, some dude that can vombit five hundred yards,
but yeah, has no other attributes that would make them
a good golfer.

Speaker 1 (01:48:24):
That's a great camp and one out of every four
is not on the fairway. Hit me LG. So did
you know they caught one of the w NBA dildo throwers? Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:48:42):
It's is it the one we were talking about where
they he got two charges. We were talking about how ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:48:49):
Now this this is after the one.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
This is an other one.

Speaker 1 (01:48:51):
Eighteen year old Caden Lopez, and he looks about what
you think a guy throwing dildos out? What exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
Okay, actually that checks out.

Speaker 1 (01:49:07):
If you guys want to google Cayden Lopez with the
K just like all my all my son's friends named Aiden, Jaden, Gaiden, Dayden, Baden, Nayden,
j Like, what is going on with Like yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:49:20):
That is that is absolutely it drives me.

Speaker 1 (01:49:23):
No, you it's and in you know and in And
I'm like yeah, I was like I also know Aiden
and Jayden, Like come on, man, give me a break. Yeah.
I uh.

Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
Anytime, anytime there's a K when it could be a C,
I have questions. First of all, I grew I grew
up next to a town that had the coffee Cup Cafe.

Speaker 1 (01:49:44):
That's that's East Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:49:46):
They didn't they didn't change that third.

Speaker 1 (01:49:49):
K for years. It was there's one that have you
ever seen?

Speaker 3 (01:49:54):
Was it.

Speaker 1 (01:49:56):
Something crap Country Corner or something? Oh yeah yeah, as
you go down to eighty one towards like Corpus Christie
and everything is all cake cake, you know, like it's
like Chris Country Corner or something. I'm like, yeah, that's
not obvious.

Speaker 2 (01:50:12):
Yeah, don't yeah, I'm going to have You can try
to explain all you want, but I have absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:50:20):
Need dildo throwing. Let that come on, man, let's let's see.
Let's get a couple of colors involved in here, not
just green. The one's got to stick. Get the suction
cup ones.

Speaker 2 (01:50:31):
We've kind of hit a wall now, Like I.

Speaker 1 (01:50:33):
Told you, like, what's what's the over under on the
dildo throwing? The WNBA? I bet we could find it
on polymarket. Poly market. I'm gonna say it is dropped
down to gotta be a one in twenty because they
really I guess they're padding down crotches now, sir, Yeah,
what is this? That's my penis?

Speaker 2 (01:50:56):
It appears I need that drop. It appears as if
the odds are no longer posted. The last one I
can see is from August tenth, so it was ten
days ago.

Speaker 1 (01:51:06):
Now hit me, LG.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
If you're buying frozen shrimp at Walmart, just be prepared.
They're going to be more radioactive than they already were
to begin with.

Speaker 1 (01:51:17):
What's a radioactive isotope get into frozen strimp.

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
That's why we need to buy American cap. If you
were just buying shrimp from the Gulf from Goal of America.

Speaker 1 (01:51:26):
Gold from America. We don't have radioactive, it just be
covered in oil.

Speaker 2 (01:51:31):
Yeah, it's uh, caesium one thirty seven, a radioactive isotope
that is made through nuclear reactions and exposure. Oh, this
is thank you. Maya say exposure to the substance over
time could pose a potential health concern. Yeah, that's uh.
I think that's putting it lightly.

Speaker 1 (01:51:52):
Uh, but that just reminds me of the what you
would call it. The HBO mini series are the last
of us? No, what does that have to do with
radio action? That's fun, guy, have you ever watched it?
I played the game? Yeah, you know. No, though the
happen in real life with Gorgochov.

Speaker 2 (01:52:13):
And oh the uh yeah, the meltdown, the nuclear.

Speaker 1 (01:52:19):
Yeah Chernobyl like you saw these like they were pretty
graphic on how like what happened after radiation.

Speaker 2 (01:52:27):
It's pretty graphic. It's it's not not good. The only
other thing I had before we close out. I don't
know if you have one more or not, but the
terroriffs are getting real. They have finally they have finally
hit me where it potentially hurts.

Speaker 1 (01:52:45):
The most old records.

Speaker 2 (01:52:48):
Now the records are still fine. We can get those
printed in America. We're still fine there. PlayStation Sony announced their.

Speaker 1 (01:52:57):
Right rising raising raising raising.

Speaker 2 (01:53:02):
Yeah, the prices of all PlayStation fives by fifty bucks.

Speaker 1 (01:53:06):
What was it? Oh l G put me onto? Uh
the he put the Joe Rogan mics on that are
made in Japan and they got tariffs.

Speaker 4 (01:53:15):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:53:18):
Hundred bucks bucks. And the ones that he wants are
from Germany. No tariffs. Oh, okay, till till the Germans
piss them off. I don't even know who it is anymore.
It used to be Angola. It wasn't the female like
the one where you like stood in front of like
at the.

Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
Yeah, excuse me, yeah, I think they Oh yeah, that's right.
It's murders now he was just in the conservative.

Speaker 1 (01:53:45):
Is a little more.

Speaker 2 (01:53:47):
But they've they've swung conservative, but not full because there's
still a little believe it or not, Germany to go
full right wing again. All right, let's close with this
because this is gonna take a minute. August nineteenth, two
thousand and twenty five years ago from yesterday, we had

(01:54:15):
the day one of the worst cases of being caught
on a hot mic.

Speaker 9 (01:54:24):
Oh pray nothing ballgame with the Reds in front of
the Royals. We go to the top half of the
fifth inning, Costianos to Lee, thanks off. Jim Day's going
to be taking us the rest of the way through
this game as Holland takes over on the mound. I
made a comment earlier tonight that I guess went out

(01:54:46):
over the year that I am deeply ashamed of. If
I have heard anyone out there, I can't tell you
how much I say from the bottom of my heart,
I'm so very, very sorry that I got caught. I
pride myself and think of myself as a man of faith.
As there's a drive in a deep left field by Costiganos,

(01:55:08):
it will be a home run, and so that'll make
it a ball game. I don't know if I'm to
be putting on this headset again. I don't know if
it's going to be for the Reds. I don't know
if it's gonna be for my bosses at Fox. I'm
gonna apologize for the people who signed my paycheck for
the Reds, for Fox Sports, Ohio, for the people I

(01:55:30):
work with, for anybody that I've offended here tonight. I
can't begin to tell you how deeply sorry I am.
That is not who I am and never has been.
And I'd like to think maybe I could have some
people that they could back that up. Very sorry, and

(01:55:51):
I beg for your forgiveness. They'll take you the rest
of the way home.

Speaker 2 (01:55:58):
That's my favorite nothing ball game. It might be my
favorite part where he's it's the don't take you the
rest way home?

Speaker 1 (01:56:05):
Is there?

Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
Like, yeah, you're done? Like you get this wrapped up?

Speaker 1 (01:56:10):
So yeah, it wasn't in like a homophobic remark, so
he he.

Speaker 2 (01:56:15):
His initial explanation was he was making a Blazing Saddles
reference when he called, uh, Kansas City the gaysler capital
of the world, the capital of the world, and very
Tom Brenneman voice, which I've seen Blazing Saddles one hundred times.

Speaker 1 (01:56:40):
I mean, how many how many times you just hear
that word watching waiting? Oh yeah, just now before talking
about the brain time just to drive home the point
that we're not gay here different times.

Speaker 2 (01:56:56):
Again, if you're doing it on a Mel Brooks movie
or a highly underrated but still shitty Ryan Reynolds comedy, Uh,
those are two different environments than on a play by play.

Speaker 1 (01:57:10):
He is a classic surface Have you ever been a waiter.

Speaker 2 (01:57:14):
Yeah, I waited tables on the Riverwalk the first week,
two weekends I lived here. And then I said, you
were I had done I had done it before years
in that life, sir, I had in college. Uh maybe
not years, maybe maybe still months added collectively. So the

(01:57:37):
great thing about obviously Tom Burndeman, they took him. He
lost his job. I think he's now. He was doing
Ohio high school football games. Now he's got a job
with the c W doing ACC games. Right, And it
was funny last year. One of his first games of
the season was a Boston College game. There's quarterbacks. Last

(01:58:01):
name was Castillanos, no relation, but Tom had fun with that.
But some of the other it's not that it became
the Castillanos story and not the Tom Brenneman story, which
I think in the long run is for the better
because let's not remember the gaysler he dropped. Let's start

(01:58:24):
blaming Nick Castillanos for everything that happens in our world.
Here's a running list of some of the random things
that have happened on the same day or at the
exact same time that Castillanos hit a home run. Okay,
his first career home run, as a professional baseball player.
He was a minor leaguer for the West Michigan White Caps.

(01:58:49):
On the same night that Obama announced we had killed
Osama bin Laden, Nick Castillanos hit his first career professional
home run. So that was May one, twenty eleven. That's
where it really started. And then we got the September eleventh.

(01:59:12):
Can I interest you in a September eleventh connection twenty
twenty one, twentieth year anniversary of the September eleven attacks.
Castianos hits another deep drive to left field in the
third inning. I got a home run there. During pregame,
during a Memorial Day tribute by Phillies play by play

(01:59:35):
guy Tom McCarthy honoring American veterans American service members who
had lost their lives. Right in the middle of that,
Castianos hits a home run. I think that one's more.
He was celebrating along with them during roughly a half
hour after the announcement of the death of Willie Mays.
The Phillies won their game on a walk off hit

(01:59:55):
by Castianos. Not a home run, just a double.

Speaker 1 (01:59:58):
He is just juice from like horrible things.

Speaker 8 (02:00:01):
He hit.

Speaker 2 (02:00:03):
Wow, here's here's here's two for both sides of our
political leanings. He hit a home run on the same
day that Trump was shot. He also hit a home
run on the same day that Joe Biden announced he
was dropping out of the race. So he got he
got both sides of our politics here. Uh uh. In America,

(02:00:29):
he hit a home run three minutes after Obechkin broke
Wayne Gretzky's all time NHL goal record. I'm cutting some
of these because there are so and granted now it's
all about castianos. Hit a home run, let's see what
happened or what. But the other one that I remembered specifically,

(02:00:51):
this one was daring. It was, ironically enough, during a
Kansas City Royals game and the Royals are eulogizing a guy,
a World War Two veteran, George Gorman, whose son had
been working for the Royals for almost thirty years, and

(02:01:13):
this was what the eulogy sounded like.

Speaker 10 (02:01:18):
Well, we're going to tell you about a great man,
and it's a loss for the Royals family. This is
George Gorman, who passed away at the.

Speaker 1 (02:01:27):
Age of ninety six.

Speaker 2 (02:01:30):
He served our country in World War Two.

Speaker 10 (02:01:35):
He went to the University of Kansas and so did
his son, Pat Gorman, who's been working for the Royals
in the clubhouse for twenty six years. Wow, and that
was Pat's father. That's a great life, ninety six years.
And Pat, just like his dad, went to KU, he

(02:01:56):
also went to Bishop Ward High School. And there's a
drive into Deep left center field. And there's never a
great time to eulogize someone during the broadcast.

Speaker 1 (02:02:07):
So we apologize for the climbing, but.

Speaker 2 (02:02:12):
Our hearts go out to Pat.

Speaker 1 (02:02:14):
It's just been a tremendous war and his wife Katie just.

Speaker 2 (02:02:22):
Hearing the pop like it's a sniper shot. He just
took out the World War two veteran himself with the
home runs.

Speaker 1 (02:02:32):
Man, he's just upstaging everybody. He's the one upper. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:02:37):
Like I said, there is a if you are interested,
there is a whole Wikipedia page that is just titled
a Drive into Deep Left Field by Castillanos that has
all of these occurrences.

Speaker 1 (02:02:53):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:02:54):
So I lost quite a bit of time this afternoon
diving into these, and some of them I had completely forgotten.
Another one. Uh, former Phillies manager Charlie Manuel had just
had a stroke and the announcers were talking about his
how he was going to have a long rehab ahead
of him, and we're all pulling for you, for you, Charlie.

(02:03:15):
And then Castillanos hits the home run. Yuh so there again,
I did about half of them. There is a whole
pay and a.

Speaker 1 (02:03:23):
Lot of it. Now it's just that man needs to
go like wash his body off in the Lakes of
min and Tonker or something.

Speaker 2 (02:03:30):
Man, he needs to buy a powerball ticket from HB
like the person that just won.

Speaker 1 (02:03:35):
How much.

Speaker 2 (02:03:36):
I didn't see how much it was.

Speaker 1 (02:03:38):
I just saw it was one of those here. Yeah, yeah,
I mean give me that name on the track.

Speaker 2 (02:03:43):
Yeah, exactly, we need some get Nick Castillanos on it. Well,
that'll do it for the Wednesday night edition.

Speaker 1 (02:03:50):
Here.

Speaker 2 (02:03:51):
Remember we've got Cowboys Friday night. Well you've got the
city council vote tomorrow and then Saturday college football, first
callege football Saturday of the year.

Speaker 1 (02:04:01):
Not a full slate. Oh, this is the little ones.
This is the little ones.

Speaker 2 (02:04:05):
Next week, Memorial Day weekend, we'll we'll talk a lot
of college football. Yeah, Labor Day, talk a lot of
college football. Next week, cap let them know how to
find you.

Speaker 1 (02:04:13):
And we still got four slots in our Fantasy football League.
Hit me up on thecapy ton two one oh at
gmail dot com at th A G C A p
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or you can hit me on my Instagram the Captain's
Chair at two to one oh.

Speaker 2 (02:04:29):
Yeah, if you want to find me on x at
Biggest Puma Instagram, Biggest dot Puma. LG one's the next
stream Saturday Night, Saturday Night with LG hop in on that.
Appreciate all of y'all hopping in tonight. We are closing
in on a ten thousand downloads. Boys, we're gonna cross
it with this episode. I didn't want to say too

(02:04:49):
much at the beginning, but I'm pretty happy. Thank you
all for the support. Yeah, only getting started, so until
we talk again, you'll be good.

Speaker 3 (02:04:57):
Peace.

Speaker 1 (02:04:58):
Peace kids.

Speaker 7 (02:05:02):
What do we say about DRUGSIA?

Speaker 1 (02:05:05):
You don't stay

Speaker 3 (02:05:08):
Yeah,
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