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September 19, 2025 128 mins
In this hilariously unfiltered Thursday night edition of The Sports Cave with Biggest Puma, host Sam Freas and the crew dive headfirst into a chaotic blend of sports, culture, and pure Cave energy. From the Cowboys trip to Chicago to the heartbreak of the Rangers’ collapse in Houston, this episode is packed with raw emotion, (somewhat) sharp wit, and unexpected detours.
  • Rangers Meltdown: Sam mourns the Rangers’ playoff hopes after a brutal series against the Astros, complete with a legendary clip from announcer Dave Raymond on pitcher A.J. Blubaugh.
  • Cheeseburger Justice: A deep dive into National Cheeseburger Day turns into a wild history lesson on Texas death row meals and the infamous triple bacon cheeseburger that changed policy forever.
  • NFL Week 3 Preview: The crew breaks down Cowboys vs. Bears, Niners vs. Cards, and the rest of NFL Week 3, with betting lines and a few bold predictions.
  • Roommate Cameo: The Roommate joins the show, book in hand, tasked with keeping the boys from spiraling into chaos (spoiler: she fails gloriously).
  • X-Files & Keith Hernandez: A long-awaited clip from Mets legend Keith Hernandez and a few other internet gems round out the night.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Li da be Lie da Bean lived bean line d b.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Oh light the beam you were looking live, as the
great Brett Musburger would probably say, he's still alive, right.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Oh no, man, he's still checking out girls in the audience.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, it's still What was it the University of Alabama
just got twenty thousand new student admissions.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
What quarterback was that? I believe that was Oh man,
it was the one that he didn't do very well. No,
he did not look that up well. I do our
intro here.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Okay, welcome into the Thursday night edition of the Sports
Cave with Biggest Puma.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I am your host, Sam Freeze, the.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Voice you have already heard his cap of course, LG
running the Mothership from parts unknown here on the north
side of San Antonio, where we find ourselves thirty four
days now, thirty four days till Spurs opening night, that
the massive Wednesday night match up up in Dallas October

(01:11):
twenty second, Spurs open the season. Indeed, but we are
still in the midst of at least for another few weeks,
in the midst of all football all the time, especially
with the way my beloved Rangers showed their ass down
in Houston. The last few nights. Of course we'll talk

(01:34):
a little bit about that. We've got a lot of NFL,
a lot of college football to get to. We're going
to preview the upcoming weekend. Sprinkled in a few X
files to get to got some We didn't do the
Keith Hernandez clip Tuesday Sweet Keith, so we got to
get to Sweet Keith tonight. I promised you, Keith Hernandez, we.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Will get to you. We will give you some Keith Hernandez.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
I got some couple other random X files videos that
got sent to me. Of course, cow Notes will start
our NFL preview with Cowboys Bears preview, and then we'll
get into the rest of NFL Week three, as well
as a couple of college football games to highlight, and
then of course Lightning Round to close it out.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
But I've teased if also.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
The roommate is in the roommate is sitting in with
us tonight, because if you listen to Tuesday Nights Show,
we talked about how we're switching to Tuesday's Thursdays now
because we don't want to go up against Monday night football.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
You can't can't be distracted.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
We don't want to end up like the Houston radio
guys we heard at the end of the program Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Just do the show, bitch, do the show. The show.
I don't know why you're yelling at me. Do the show.
Bengals Bingalsa. There we go. It's not even east, it's
not even north.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Well, it's kind of it's like it's right where North
Texas and Central Texas. Like I'm equal distant. I could
get to DFW in an hour or Waco in an hour,
my little.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Hometown right in the middle there.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
So I I I picked my accent depending I code
switch my accent among white people. I I go, either
you like that one, yeah, because she knows it's true people.
The roommate giggled at that, because she's actually heard it.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
I code switched my accent if I'm talking to a cop.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
That, Oh, well, that's the number one code switch. That's
when the eagle scout, Yeah, exactly, the eagle scout son
of a mayor, grandson of a county judge comes out like, off, sir,
I'm sorry you're having to spend any time with something so.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Prosperble day exactly, Like, just just know I'm not gonna
be one of the ones that gives you any trouble.
I am.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Back the Blue brother, back to Blue. I've considered putting
it one of the stickers.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
I got one for you. It was a three pack. Well,
I give one of my other guys got it put
on his.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
It's not a bad bit, not a bad bit. No,
we've got the roommates sitting in with us. What book
are you reading tonight?

Speaker 1 (04:15):
What is this one? Abby? Spot? Is a stay you'll
remember me? Okay? New York Times bestseller. Well, your main
job is to make sure that.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Neither one of us get distracted to the point of
yelling at each other like those Houston radio guys. Because
we were not going to go up against Monday night football,
but we are going to go up against Thursday night
football game.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Is it a good game? I mean Miami's backs on
a wall, So I think they're going to produce. They
already showed Oli Gordon always Oklohoma State's own. They're starting
to do power running, which they never do because they're
all speedsters. So I think they're motivated. Players only meeting
last week, Yeah, players only meeting before the third game
of the season. That's you a sign of the veterans

(05:02):
are cutting out some people.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, that's usually a sign of a team that has
already lost the season.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
But we'll keep an eye on the Thursday night football game.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
But your job, if you so choose to accept this mission,
is if anything big happens, if there's a big touchdown,
any points scored, a big hit challenge, anything like that,
just kind of give me a nudge and tell me
we might wanna want out. Okay, all right, we have confirmation.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
I don't. That didn't instill a whole lot of confidence.
But uh, we'll see. We'll see what we get from
the roommate. Uh see, if we can't, it's gonna it's
gonna happens every time she looks over there. I'm gonna
look over there because I'm like a.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Raccoon in something, or like the you know, the rubber
neck fan at a NASCAR race, the you know, you
see everyone turn that.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Oh what's going on over there? Yeah, exactly what's up? Yeah?
I uh, we'll see or slowly walk for healthy reas.
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
We'll see what she can provide to the show tow. Yeah,
I'm already distracted.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
I know it's all ready. The bitch do the show. Okay,
we'll get right to it, because we got to start
with what I watched last night. I have Wednesday. I
don't know if every Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
We're very close to having hockey and basketball back into
our lives.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, but last night was the.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Well Stars play their first Well we're thirty four days
till Spurs opening night. That'll be a Wednesday, October twenty second.
Stars play their first preseason game a week from Saturday.
They I had it on the notes. They opened training
camp actually yesterday, I think today was their first team
skate so we're closer to hockey starts about two weeks before.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Is that what they call it team skatey? Yeah, it's
like instead of a practice, it was just a light
like a walk through a team to skate, hold hands
and skate around. Yes, they do.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
They do choreograph Olympic Olympic routines. Yeah, to exactly. Very
blades of glory basically is what the first couple of
days of NHL training camp is.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
No, we have last night.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
I didn't do the National Day. I told you we
talked for it for a full hour about how great
it was. Okay, September fifteenth, three days ago, three days
it was National Double Cheeseburger Day, double cheese double.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Not even a single. No, no, no, it was like
in and out, like doing his thing.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
I got a hair.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
I would assume there has to be there probably was
some marketing wing behind the selection of that day, especially
when I tell you that I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Hold out my hopes for triple cheeseburger Day. Just wait,
so today is National Cheeseburger Day. Just single. This is
so they get celebrated after it makes no sense, and
they're the original. You don't have a double without a single.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
You would think, so you mentioned the triple cheeseburger though,
Oh buddy, the do you know the reason? Right now,
in Texas, we no longer offer last meals to inmates
before we before the state takes their life.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Oh yeah, we're just that's just too nice. So like
we're gonna kill you. We still we're gonna murder you
in some forida former fashion, but giving you something good
to eat before we murder you.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, that's sir, that's too much. You're compassionate. Yeah, go woke,
go broke.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
We don't do that here.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
In on September twenty first, this apparently is just Cheeseburger
Week because we had the fifteenth was double Cheeseburger, Today's
National Cheeseburger on September twenty first. In twenty eleven, James
Bird Junior was put to death by the State of Texas.
His last meal was a triple meat bacon cheeseburger, a

(09:07):
meat lover's pizza, a big bowl of fried okra with ketchup,
a pound of barbecue, a half a loaf of bread,
peanut butter fudge, a pint of ice cream, and two
chicken fried steaks.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Bro I think he died eating all that. He refused
to eat any of it. He just raw. So he
runed it for everybody. He runed it for all the others.
The guards didn't like. Maybe he gave it to the cellies,
you know, so that's what you do. You buy the
commissary and you gain favor. They served it to.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Him and he refused to eat any of it, and
he just told prison officials he simply was not hungry.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
That could happen when you're facing death.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
So because of his giant order that was highlighted by
a triple bacon cheeseburger on this National Cheeseburger Day, that's
the reason Texas inmates on death row don't get a
last meal anymore.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
They just get served the cafeteria served that day to
on our you know, on our taxes. Nah, I've all
I already said. Man, if however, was on death row,
save the meal. I don't think I'm gonna eat. You
know what I'm saying. Bring me a box full of puppies, Okay, okay,
just to have one last rush joy, have them like

(10:27):
all run all over the place and walk all over
me and bite my beard. And it's it's it's the
sweetest thing ever.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
That feels like such a better use of a final
five minutes instead of eating a meat lover's pizza and
two chicken fried stage five minutes.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
I'm going easily two hours with that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
The UH.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
It's also on a more serious it's also the Air
Force's birthday today.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Ah, so that my uncle.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
You want to take a you want to take a
guess on the year when the Air Force was when
it was officially separate, raided from UH and made its
own official wing of the Armed Forces.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Nineteen forty eight? Whoa am I right? Forty seven?

Speaker 2 (11:11):
I knew it was right after World War Two? Yeah, yeah,
but Pearl Harbor yeah yeah, and yeah towards the end
of the world. Yeah, it was both of them.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
So yeah that. Uh.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
When I read what the national day was today, it
immediately because I originally I just googled how many what
is the most common last meal? Because I thought it
had to be cheeseburgers. So that was going to be
my line of Kitchie humor here. But then I went
down the wormhole of learning about why Texas no longer

(11:44):
has them, which also involves a cheeseburger, So celebrate.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Accordingly, eat I can't.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
I don't trust the man who eats a regular hamburger
when a cheeseburger is an option.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
I mean, I see the lactose involved. Yeah, let's really
the cheese, even bacon on it. Yeah, that's a horrible view,
by the way, L g that wide shot.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Oh I oh, so I have a monitor now I can.
I can finally see what we're actually putting out there.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
I don't think I like it. I liked it makes me.
It makes him go twenty pounds heavier, and it looks
like he's.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Got the angle up. You man, I have a I
kind of already wish I couldn't see what it looked like.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
You won't stop in this algorithm that he puts on
it is killing me. Well, well, LG, how are you
doing in there? Power through? Let's say we do we
have some do we have some life back there? I would,
I would hope.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
So considering now that I can just around now, yeah,
now that I can see the camera moving so much, LG.
Before we get into the meat of the content tonight,
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(13:42):
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Speaker 2 (13:57):
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Speaker 1 (14:06):
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(14:31):
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Speaker 2 (14:39):
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Speaker 1 (15:21):
She's already got a fan. She wants to. Let's be
honest with you that you're beautiful Tammy in Austin.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Oh, shout out, Tammy. Great listeners over there in Austin.
Let's get right to it. It's it was a rough
night of sports viewing. I was watching w NBA playoffs
at the bar after the show Tuesday night, or no,
last night. I mean it was blown out or something
like that. Yeah, I think one of the games was
a blowout. It was either that or watch my Rangers

(15:51):
absolutely implode.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
See that's why it's a rough night for.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
You because the two thousands, Well, it's a rough night
one because the Ranger season might not have mathematic ended,
but it pretty much ended last night and there was
no there's no fallback, like, there's no Okay, this game sucks. Now,
let me put something.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Else like it. I watched the Yankees beat the Minnesota Twins.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Again, I could have watched show, Hey, getting pulled in
the fifth inning with a no hitter. I mean I
watched more, I watched baseball.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
But as he can't say no hitter with fifth inning, Dude,
did he get out of hit? That's not even that's
not even a full he's not even qualified to get
a win. No, I guess not. No at that point. No,
because he's got to get through minor details, minors detail.
I love how they're promoting show. Hey, it's going to
go back to back fifty home run seasons and Judge

(16:42):
is about to do it himself, and he would have
done it the year before if he didn't get hurt
running into the outfield wall in Dodger Stadium. Yeah, again,
making an excellent play.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Did Aaron Judge throw five innings of no hit baseball
last night? Because that's well, I'd love to see it.
I'm sure got an he'd be pretty intimidating on the mound.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Actually, no, it was.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
It was a rough night of the sinking realization that
I am officially done with baseball for the I mean
I'll watch, of course, I'm gonna watch the playoffs. I'm
gonna watch every game that's on TV.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
But there is you're done watching the Rangers. There's no
drama left for me with Rangers baseball. This year's a
lot of drama right now.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Not with the Rangers, though, with the it's actually there's
more drama. There's more drama in Cleveland now than there
is an Arlington because the Guardians have now passed Texas.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
In the wild card nine game win streak.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Something like that or eight out of nine, nine out
of ten. Something ridiculous to clime at the end of
the year, man, especially after they, you know, were sellers
at the trade deadline and have climbed. I don't think
anyone catches. I think the the standings of the way
they are now is how it ends, except for maybe

(17:58):
Houston and Boston flipping places.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Boston, well, Boston's got to play the Blue Jays. They
got a series with the Blue Jays that's gonna be
an interesting one. And Houston has to play Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Okay, So Cleveland still has a path where if they now,
if they sweep Houston they could potentially.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
And the Boston sweeps Toronto. I mean, we got cupcakes,
the Yankees playing Orioles in the White Sox we play
Oriols twice in two series in the White Sox in
the sandwich in the middle, so we could go in
on a ten game wind streak and possibly steal the division.

(18:38):
That is rightfully ours. Odds of that actually had like,
how what's your confidence level? Like are you talking because
there's still this thing called the Yankees bullpen. Yeah, it's
a it's a bit of a wild card.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
So the only highlight from this Rangers Astro series, as
I think it was when you were out of the
room Tuesday, LG and I were highlighting the Astros prospect
that started the game Tuesday night. Mister a J blue
ball spelled b l U B A U g H

(19:18):
blue ball, blue ball, blue ball, man, I'm holding it in, okay.
So LG and I had we like anybody, that's correct.
We we tested, We killed some time while you were
out of the room with our own line of blue
ball jokes. But uh, the Rangers announcer Dave Raymond, he

(19:40):
had his own line of humor calling the game Tuesday night,
and LG this clip is I apologize. I know, as
with your high standards for audio and video, this is
just a random person recording it off their TV.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
So it's a little low volume.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
But see if you can hear Dave Raymond's line of
humor towards mister blue ball.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
You have a little trouble finishing. Oh buddy, so it's
such low hanging fruit. But that's but see that's not
the definition of blue ball finishing. That's that's that's that's
penile impotence.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, but that also what is what is what results
where you get hold on Let's yeah, let's let's try to.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Keep individual with the blue It's an actual thing, not
literally women, it's an actual thing. Yeah, I always to completion.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I think the I think LG's line of humor around
needing some relief blue Ball needing some relief was probably
probably the better, the better line of jokes. But we
did at least get Dave Raymond trying as bad.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
I see that correct. What was the number on his jersey? Uh? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:01):
He also he wears number sixty nine. He's very very
obviously down for bits sixty nine. He needs to have
a endorsement with Blue Choo or some of these oh
buddies generic viagra companies that are popping up left and right.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Thank you, thank you for that Blue che Outside of that,
I was like, I always wanted something to other. I
want I want to reverse the blue chee where it
didn't so I can faster. Yes, yes, I think they have.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
I'm like, I ain't got all day for this, you know,
I want to be sixteen again and just be like,
hey man, I got a minute and let's get this done.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
With a minute. You're like, I'm trying to cut my
time in half. Yeah, I've only got a trying to
run a faster I can go two minutes. I just don't.
It's not in my schedule. The time will not allow it.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
These five k's are killing me. Man, let me ask you,
what did you mister? I'm guessing baseball was the majority of.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, baseball, Like, yeah, man, just watching the Yankees is
beat up on the Twins after we totally showed her
tushes the Tushi's on the first game. So it's baseball
from here and now. Man, I'm like, I'm there's a
lot of drama in it. And I know as a

(22:26):
Ranger fan, and actually, you know, talking to people around
the city, they're starting to actually say, yeah, I'm more
of a Ranger fan than an Astro fan. Those Ranger
fans from back in the day we went to two
World Series in a row. And then when I love.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Those teams more than the one that won the World Series,
Like that Ron Washington burning heaters in the dugout.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yes, he's trying to. It's trying to decide whether to
pull a pitcher or not, so he'd go down into
the tunnel light a heater. He's coming out excelling. This
is so great.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
At times, literally during the broadcast, you could just see
smoke like coming up from the dugout and you'd be like, Oh,
Ron's about to make a decision.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
He's burning. He's like, oh, buddy, why'd you put me
in this situation? Again? Yeah, those teams were so much
more fun than the Yeah, but like a lot of
people are actually are actually coming out being like I
like the Rangers more than the Astros. And like when
the Astros were dicks with the basketball, with the trash
cans and everything.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
That one definitely Brendan Carr would have a problem with.
That doesn't pass the radio master. No, the the thing
they were they were Richard's Yeah, go with That's that's perfect.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
That was their acronym name. The problem with the Astros
they are inevitable, like that's the the in the AL West.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
They are, so this will be eight out of the
last ten years that they have won the West whatever
that's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Number is I mean, there isn't Seattle right there? How far.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Seattle's going to probably win the division this year. Yeah,
but that will be the second time in the last decade.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Followed behind mister Rump or Big Tush or whatever was Lumber.
I believe we're going with Big Dumber. Yeah, Kyle Roley, Yeah, dude,
Like I think Seattle's getting late. The torch is being passed.
I'm not so sure Varez cannot save them. So, okay,

(24:31):
are you ready for this? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Going back to twenty twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen, the
Rangers won the AL West back to back years. So
again nine years ago, okay, these are the years that
the Astros haven't won the division since then. Since twenty sixteen,
it's probably one time. These are the it's twenty twenty,

(24:54):
the COVID year when the Oakland Athletics won it with
a thirty six and twenty four record. Every other year
that they've played a full season, the Astros have won
the division. That's why I say they're inevitable. So if
you're all of a sudden changing alliances back to a
Ranger fan or four as a Ranger fan for the
first time, just know it doesn't it doesn't feel good

(25:16):
to have your ass handed to you by the Astros,
and that tends to happen more often.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
There was that that was at Houston. Wasn't at Texas? Uh?

Speaker 2 (25:25):
The series this week was down in Houston. Yeah yeah, yeah,
not so Houston. The Astros will keep the Silver Boot
Trophy for whatever that is worth.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
What we got, we got a wattle, We got a
wattle sighting.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Look at the run sheet react to Thursday night football update.
So we're right on schedule. Figure Wattle sighting, my figure,
Oh little Jayleen, Jayleen Wattle getting Uh, looks like the
Dolphins are going to tie things up here with eight
seconds left in the first time.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
This is gonna this is gonna be a high scoring game.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
So we're going when we go through the NFL Week three,
we're gonna look at the betting lines on each game.
We're actually we're gonna pick five games each week starting
to night. One game will always be the Cowboys, and
one game will always be the Niners. And then we'll
pick three other NFL. Sure, we got to rep both
our team, but the line on this game before it

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started was Bills by six and a half. Which way
would you have gone? Oh?

Speaker 1 (26:24):
I would have picked I would have picked the Dolphins
to cover, to cover, maybe not win. But there's something
about getting embarrassed. How do we have that? Yes? Are
you a dolphin? Can you speak dolphin? When he goes
oh man? I love that scene Ace Venturer, Classic Cinema.

(26:45):
Whenever there's a players meeting, you go zero and two.
You're expected that you have all that talent on offense
and you just get you know, Danny Dines embarrasses you
week one and then you're coming from behind twelve points
and you should have won that game and you actually
lose it on just not being cohesive in the like

(27:06):
on your final drive last week with the Dolphins. Yeah,
they're pissed. Yeah, but I would have going. And it's
not like the Buffalo's defense has been outstanding and they
gave up like forty points against Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
And it's also not like Buffalo is a frozen tundra
yet either.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
So Miami, you know the normally Miami traveling north what
is it anytime after October? I think Miami traveling north
in November December, they're yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
They gave to a little bone a little yeah. Yeah,
you don't have to go to Buffalo in November this season.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
I would have said, I still would have said Bill's
win by a touchdown that I liked that six and
a half hook.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
I would have said a touchdown. I think it's gonna
be four points. I think it's gonna be where they're
gonna they're gonna give up, They're gonna get up to
where they're gonna have to score a touchdown to win,
and it's gonna be that final drive. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Well, if the first half is ooh, we got to
fumble trying to trying to kneel the ball to in
the half, yeah, if the first half is any example
of how the second is gonna go.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Looks like your breakback camp, looks like.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Your fins with the points would have been would have
been your first win against me in our weekly pickms here.
But we'll get to that in the main Segi LG.
You have those videos I sent you for. We got
some x files to get into. Starting with the aforementioned
Keith Hernandez.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Video that we didn't get to.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
This will be this will probably be the last night
I play any Rangers related audio. So I had to
get the Dave Raymond clip in there. This Keith Hernandez clip.
Back last weekend, the Rangers played in at City Field
up in New York, New York City, New York Mets Stadium.

(28:55):
It was which also to play interleague games in the
last two weeks of the season. That man that throws
my childhood brain off, just because that didn't feel right whatsoever.
But the main storyline was Jacob de Gram's first time
pitching back in back at City Field after leaving the

(29:16):
Mess to sign for the Rangers. So the top of
the first inning of the game de Gram pitched in.
The Rangers scored six runs and it was a It
was six runs scored with two outs.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
So it was just they were rolling.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
I mean again, back when, back when things were great
for US Rangers fans, when when it looked like it
might not just be the wild card in play, it
might be the whole damn division.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Well, keithr.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Nandez had a little problem with the in stadium DJ
who was trying to get the crowd hyped for Jacob
de Gram's return right after the team gave up six
runs in the top of the first.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
Cap to one was just a disastrous furs jenning for
the Mets, and now Jacob de Grov takes the bound
back of his old Hawks city field, Let's want to
get this party started.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Back Okay, okay, stop at the restarted LG.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
So you hear.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
First of all, you hear what's his name? It's not
U Gary Cohene. I think the play by play guy
he mentions, you know. And now the Mets look to
get the bats started after just a disastrous top of
the first. Then you hear the hype, DJ, get on
your feet, welcome back one of our own, Jacob de Grom.

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And at that point, Keith hernandez he's so frustrated, pissed
off at watching the sloppy six runs that just got scored. Uh,
he has very little time for this. DJ, give me
that one more time, He'll cap.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
So one was just a disastrous first jenning for the Mets,
and now Jacob de Grov takes the bound back of
his old Hawks film.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Let's want to get this party started?

Speaker 4 (31:02):
Background?

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Oh god, oh god. Yeah, they they're they're hanging on
by two point the two Mets. Yeah, well they uh
they got Sincy breathing down their necks. And believe it
or not, Arizona, who sold everything, is there. They're back
within two games. Two games.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
And also one of the pieces they sold was Merrill
Kelly to the Rangers. Now the d Backs are closer
to a playoff spot than the Rangers are, highly highly frustrating.
We also U from the Sports World also had this
clip where one of my favorite things when it comes
to play by playing color analysts is when the one

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of them makes a joke and the other person clearly
has no idea what the reference is.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
It happens all the time and you hear it.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
You hear it a lot where it just gets played
off or it's like the fake left, like the you know,
it's like I have no idea what you just said
or something, Yeah, very much. So yeah, yeah, yeah, no
that that makes sense. Yeah no, no, no that yeah,
I believe that checks out.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
It's a solid pass.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
So jj Watt is doing uh games now as a
color analyst and what is it? I think CBS, right, Yeah,
So he is joined by Iron Eagle in the broadcast booth.
JJ Watt played a majority of his career for the
Houston Throw your hes up Houston Texans. Iron Eagle had

(32:37):
no idea the glorious reference. JJ Watt drops right here.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Oh no, here today and there is Mike Jones. Who.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
How about that we say his name, he shows.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Up on the air, and you also here listen to
it again because you can hear JJ after he drops
the who, and Ian completely misses it, and then you
hear JJ go Mike Jones, like, listen, good.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Here today and there is Mike Jones.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
How about that we say his name, he shows up
on the air, Jones to can't believe he was not
gonna be like, no, that's Mike Jones.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Who just keep on, man. I think it to JJ's credit.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
I think if he wanted to be a bad partner,
he could have absolutely strung him along a little further
and really embarrassed him if he had won. What you
know about exactly? Yeah, that one chopping on dose with elbows, keep.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Going, keep going. No.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
I I don't know why, but it's something about midwestern
Wisconsin's own JJ Watt dropping a Mike Jones Like I
remember when that first Mike Jones album came out.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
I was like, oh five, oh, maybe even O four,
like I was in Stephenville, Millionaire, Paul Wall, Oh.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
The Rise of the Third Coast. Yeah, that was all
after out of prison before he died, Screw died, uh
massively underrate. We were watching the top uh number one
Billboard or Hot one hundred number one hits for every

(34:26):
like through the whole nineties, and then another video of
the whole two thousands. I forgot back to back weeks,
three weeks in a row. Chamillionaire was on a number
one song in America, Paul Wall was on a number
one song in America, and then Slim Thug was on
a number one.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
What was it was like six? It was. It was
a Southern takeover exactly. It was so glorious it was.
It was the Port Arthur's own takeover right then from.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Port Arthur, Texas, ninety miles away. Yeah, no, it was.
I mean again, that was twenty year old me. Just
I remember being when I was in high scho well,
we were put into a district with southern South fort
were South Dallas, and we would literally go and listen
like as we were warming up playing them at their

(35:11):
gyms and we would have had one guy that's just
like write down all the songs. We gotta figure out
like these like this is good stuff we get like
we have no idea.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
What this is. We gotta try to find it.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Like Pick and Roll Defense, we need the set list
for their warm up music because we need to go
home and download it on LimeWire.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
So yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
And then lastly, a true X file here. This one
was actually sent to me by the roommate herself.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
A video you might see soon on Who Won the Internet.
Here you can see the monitor. This last one, this
is a I believe it's an Ohio State fan because
they it appears that they're all in Ohio state gear uh.
And I think one of the girls is telling the
other girl something along the line like Hey, yeah, like

(36:00):
I'm recording a video for my mom. Uh, you know,
tell her hi or whatever. And it looks like maybe
the athletic ability of one of the girls in question,
she might have overestimated what she was capable of pulling off,
because it looks like she has a Teddy Bridgewater level injury.

(36:25):
I can't handle gruesome, but the way she bends is it's.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
It's not good.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
This jacket merid it.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
From my mom. This jacket merid it blue. Your a
c L man, I think that's a c L, M
c L and p c L. We need to close

(36:58):
up of the roommate. She wasn't on She was on
the cheer squad, not the cheerleaders. That's what I'm saying.
She I think she Oh we got oh we have
slow motion. Oh god, you don't be that way man, Sorry,
I don't been that way. Good. Oh LG LG LG producer.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Oh, I didn't know we had that capability available. Oh
that was even better. That was even better than I anticipated.
Yeah that uh yeah, we just need to close up
on you crying laughing. This is this is this is
typical female y'all's crab mentality. You're just dying laughing at this.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Poor girl.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
I for one hope she gets the medical trifles.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
It's ridiculous, the vitriol you'll have for each other. Yeah,
anyone falling is funny.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Oh girl, come on, girl, there's no dis's like up
and rows over the past couple of years. Hey girl,
what's up? Girl? Oh girls, hey girl, I'll be yeah
once mean just yeah, uh if you do it roll tape.
That's all I'm saying. Uh So, yeah, if you if

(38:23):
you're again, if you see something.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
That you think I might enjoy, send it to me
on X at Biggest Puma. We'll see if it gets mentioned,
gets featured here in the X files. Thank you, lj oj.
Let's try not to get too far behind the clock
because we got a lot to get to in the
main Suggie starting with some cow notes. Let's talk about
the Cowboys matchup Sunday. What are they They're not the

(38:48):
noon game this time, right, Bryce? I think they are
the I believe it's the three point thirty kickoff up
there in Chicago. This will be one of the games
you and I are picked, so as we discuss it,
be thinking about your pick. I'll start by telling you
the Cowboys are one and a half point favorites in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Called that. Yes, you did. You nailed that. Nailed it
on the right, on the head, nailed it. Chat to
Topizzle just needs to refer to me, you know.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Okay, don't be using chat GPT for your picks, though, dude,
because I will never download that, okay, fair, Yeah, I
don't know why I would ever.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
I don't know why I would think to accuse you
of that. You would be the last person trying to
pass that off. I'm about to break something what I
don't know? Okay, I was like, what do you have?
What do you I thought you were. I thought you
had brought props. I thought you were about to go

(39:49):
download some AI B S fair, So explicits.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Tuesday night we talked a little bit about I threw
it out there. I thought had been playing like the
second best quarterback in the NFL so far this year.
And I threw a stat out that I didn't exactly
have correct. Imagine that I had seen it.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
It was that's what I do. It was in my head,
that's the captain's job.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
So I had all of the numbers I said were correct. Order, No,
the order was correct. The problem was the stat I
attributed to the numbers was incorrect.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
So I have I have it. I have it all
correct for you here.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
So THEAYA stats this is through PFF, which again it's
not the end all, be all Bible of statistics, but
it does provide you unless you're sitting there watching the
twenty two Uh no, there actually didn't they have They

(40:54):
had like, well, this doesn't make you feel any better.
They had like I think a couple of British dudes
that were part of the Yeah, look, if we can
love soccer, then they can love There you go.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
So this is what happens on each team's dropbacks.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
So purely speaking, these are your options every time a
quarterback drops back to pass the ball. These are the
options that they have laid out. So it's batted pass
or broken in completion, So the ball actually got played,
quarterback took a sack, the ball was thrown away, the

(41:35):
quarterback scrambled, or lastly, the quarterback hit the target, and
hitting the target would mean like in the open seems.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Like three out of four of those can be quarterback
related though a batted pass.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Means he just oh for sure, or or a broken
incompletion mints he meant he threw into coverage like that's
it's a it's showing what it's. What this is trying
to show is more of a true value of the
quarterback without like the CD drops from the first game,
So that would be that hitting the target. Yeah, so

(42:12):
it's not so he should have had sixty more yards
in passing, but we don't see those stats show up,
but he was hitting the target.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
But with next gen stats, the completion ratio rating percentage
on the catch was only thirteen percent.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
You want to use next gen status. That's chat GBT brother,
that's AI powered. Like again, I live in denial. Stop
breaking the fourth wall. It's all around you. It's all
around you. You just don't realize it. So that being said,
there are two quarterbacks through two weeks that have not

(42:50):
thrown the ball away one time. Whatsoever. You want to
take a guess who they are. They have not thrown
away the ball. Haven't thrown the ball away. Danny Dimes, No,
he has thrown it away four percent of his dropbacks.
You think about the guys who scramble to but also
to throw well, see lamartin the guy It's It's it's

(43:12):
Pat Mahomes. I'll break it for you is the ultimate.
I'm gonna hold this ball as long as possible and
then and then throw it.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Then I'm gonna do it, and then I'm gonna stay
down exactly.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Uh. But the only other quarterback with UH at least
you know that that's actually played full games, like not
counting guys that have come in as injury relief or anything.
The only other quarterback not to have thrown the ball
away all season is dak And that might not sound
like a crazy impressive stat but let me add in.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
He hasn't thrown the ball away.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
He's only had pass broken up or batted down three
percent of the time. He's taken a sack nine percent
of the time, which is considerably lower the next The
only one ahead of him is Jordan Love with the Packers.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
What about a tackle for loss? Does that have that
on that?

Speaker 2 (44:09):
That would just be a sack. If it's a quarterback
the ball, it's still a sack. If you're behind the
line of scrimmage, it gets calculating. It still gets calculated
as a sack because at any time they could stop
and throw it still, so it's still a passing opportunity.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Sure, but it's not. That's not the intended play at
that point. Uh.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
But also if if a running back pulls up to
throw it and then gets tackled, I think that does
count as a sack.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
I'm not sure on that. But the most.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Impressive thing here you mentioned Danny Dimes, Indiana Jones. Daniel Jones,
he is second in total percent target hit. So God,
Daniel Jones. What what tiger blood did he when he
It's incredible, It's insane. When he has dropped back this year,

(45:03):
he has hit the target on seventy one percent of.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
His past attempts. That is insane.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Here's here's just looking through the top five. So Danny
Jones seventy one percent, Sam Darnold sixty eight percent, Matt
Stafford sixty eight percent, CJ. Stroud sixty eight percent. But
Stroud has taken a sack on twenty three percent. Yeah,
he has taken more sacks than anybody on drop back

(45:31):
opportunity shakes down.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Exactly all the time.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
And then fifth is Mahomes at sixty eight, and then
there's a big jump down to sixty four, which is
where the combination of uh Perdy and mac Jones comes
in because it's by team. Dak's number of hitting the
target is eighty three percent. He has hit the target
eighty three percent of the time on dropbacks through two

(45:57):
weeks this season.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
That is in is going the way I always love
it to go. Cowboys do well at the beginning of
the season.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
And then look that I won't y'alls hops up, baby,
that I won't y'alls oaps up. I won't argue with
a word because it's true. There's no arguing against the truth.
But I would also expect when you look at like,
it's not just Dak outperforming everybody, it's Dak outperforming everybody
by such a wide margin it's actually insane.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
He's gonna come back down as he should. I mean
Eagles first week, or as you would expect Eagles first week.
Nobody played first, the first teams didn't play much. But
I will get I've already said it. I gave it
to Dak. He looks way better than last year. He
looks his body looks better, he looks skinnier, you know,

(46:49):
a little bit more tone muscle definition. I mean his
passing like I mean, it's his in between passes that
always got me. And then the decision making. Yeah, when
ever it comes down to, oh, let me try to
fit this in between double covers.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
See and that that's where it's funny you say that,
because when I think of the type of quarterback I
want on my NFL team, there is a risk reward
trade off where if you have a guy like Dak
who thinks he can squeeze it into a small window
and ends up making a mistake and throwing an interception.

(47:26):
Because of that. The alternative to that is having a
guy that never no, well.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
That's the exception.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
The alternative to that is having a guy that never
tries to make that throw at all.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
So like if Dak that was like Aaron Rodgers for
three years well or like when he was getting his
MVPs and he's like, oh, yeah, it's two interceptions and
thirty four touchdowns exactly, I'm like, yeah, because he's a
Devonte Adams is a beast and he's.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Not taking any risk, which is great when you can
still win like that, but the majority of the time
you need your quarterback to take some amount of risk
in order to win football game awards exactly.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
So like I still think.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Dak is at a healthy level on that ratio. Yeah,
that feels like, oh yeah, that's not going to work.
Though it's only first game, but I think I agree
with you. Like the the Dak interceptions, At times you

(48:29):
wonder what the hell he was doing, but I also
know when he drops that same pass right in a
dude's hand. Majority of the time, I'll take the interceptions
every now and then, it's just the timing of them.
You know, look at go back to the game on Sunday.
You know the reason they won that game was Brandon

(48:49):
Aubrey for sure kicking the field goal, you know, doing
what he did. But Dak's fourth quarter and overtime performance
was outside of taking one bad sack in overtime, the
Cowboys don't win that game unless Dak is hitting targets.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
And getting but they gave it up twice. Sure, but
Dak doesn't play defense. I mean, that's Dak through what
should have been the game winning and overtime. It wasn't
like he drove the field seventy yards, No, but again
it ended on a special teams. He took the bad
sack that put him behind the chains and then rushed

(49:24):
for fifteen yards to get in with the seventy yard zone.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
For which also you mentioned Dak looking better this year.
I don't think we see Dak make that rush last year.
And James, lastly on Dak if if a lot of
people like that, these numbers are not sustainable, and I
know that Dak's not going to finish the year.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Now with the schedule, y'all gotta play for sure, But
I also well, I mean it's Pittsburgh gonna be any good?
Well yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
I also would quickly remind people the last time Dak
played a full season healthy, he finished second in MVP voting.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Yeah so, and that was only two years ago.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
So if we're getting some in between of Dak the
MVP candidate and Dak at his worst, I think we're
still closer to Dak the MVP candidate than we are
to Dak being washed that he's not washed.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
And especially if you think closer for Cowboy fan to
get their hope.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
There's your favorite, there's your favorite, because yeah, Cowboys, this
would be the type of game. It's funny because a
lot of the Cowboys fans I've talked to over the last.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Two weeks, oh, real down on the beginning of the year.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
So as very understandably, you trade away your only game
changing defender a week before the season starts, and your
whole coaching staff is now completely changing their uh not
scheme but their plan of attack on defense, but the
way Cowboy it's weird because Cowboy fans, I think, felt

(50:59):
good about the loss in Philly and felt bad about
the win against the Giants, like it didn't you know,
like you watched the Philly game, and you're like, oh, man, okay,
maybe we're not that far off.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Looked washed in the first game, like they look like
they're gonna put Jackson Dart in exactly that during the
Cowboys game, and then all of a sudden, he has
almost puts up almost five hundred yards and y'all thrown
deep balls like he was old school Russ to Tyler Lockett,
you know, but just perfectly dropping them in. Yeah, the
uh in in the house that a God builds, you

(51:37):
know that.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Eli signed his name on the wall after they won
the first game that was held there. The one of
the storylines with the Cowboys traveling to Chicago. Matt ever
ever Flew returned to Chicago was fired as their head
coach last year the game the day after the Thanksgiving

(51:58):
game when he didn't inexplicably didn't use a time out
at the end of the game. Did you realize this though,
And I'm sure I heard it at the time, but
I just didn't remember it. He was the first coach
in Bear's history to be fired in season. It was
the first time the Bears had everything.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
They were so tired of his ass. They literally said,
We've never done this before. But you are so bad
at this. The Bears are closer to the Browns than
they are like Green Bay.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
It's really actually crazy when you know, I mean outside
of like two blips, outside of the both of.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Them can't get a franchise quarterback to save their life.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Outside of the Super Bowl shuffle and the other Walter
Payton's run. Yeah, the crazy thing about him is they're
on this weird cycle where they they hire, they draft
a quarterback, and then they fire the head coach the
next year, so then they hire a new head head

(53:00):
coach who decides that he doesn't want that quarterback, so
then they draft another quarterback, and then the head coach
gets fired and this cycle just keeps repeating itself for
thirty years now. I mean, yeah, the last what's the
last Bears memory you have of them being relevant?

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Rex Grossman in the Super Bowl against Peyton Jake Cutler
ish ish ish You know, when you had Devin Hester
who ran back every kick.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
And Peanut Tillman punching out every every ball to create
a fumble.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Yeah, that was actually Peyton Manning's One of his two
Super Bowl victories was against the Bears. Against Rex Grossman
floored his own, Uh, one of the and didn't he
who was the best in Miami? It was the backup
that actually won all like the critical games. Oh man, yeah,

(53:52):
I'd have to look it up. I can't neck. Yeah,
I forget who it was.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Someone tell us in the chat the a couple other
quick DAC points, so we didn't mention it Tuesday. But
against in the game against the Giants, he became the
Cowboys all time completions leader.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
He passed Romo and he's now the game's just so different. Yeah,
I mean when he's throwing fifty plus times a game, right,
but forty plus times? Oh no, well, I mean more.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
I mean Aikman should own every passing record in Cowboys
history exactly, and he handed it off to Emmett majority
of the time. Dak is twenty one hundred yards away
from passing Romo for the yards record, but he's one
win from tying Romo for third.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
On the list. Uh in Cowboys wins behind nine years. Yeah,
it was the twenty twenty sixteen draft, right, Romo about
the same time.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
They have identical career numbers. Basically, Dak is about to
pass him in games played, which is why he's passing
like their average yards per game numbers and touchdown interception numbers.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
He's basically it's basically roma stick on a quarterback that
just doesn't win you. Crab Well, I think it's the
alternative of, you know, the alternative winning something. No.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
I think, well, again, the alternative why moving on from
a quarterback when he leads you to three straight twelve
win seasons. I know postseason success be damned, but the
alternative to that is being in the wandering abyss of
darkness where it's Chad Hutchinson and Drew Hinson and Anthony Wright.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
And the Cowboys, the coveted Cowboys Amurcus team right, can't
get a free agent quarterback that is damn good like
a Baker Afield. See, and you guys don't want to
move off Dak because Baker A will help you on
your salary budget for sure.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
First of all, I would still take Dak over Baker. Secondly, oh,
you were out of your mind all the time. Not
these past two years, but that listen at the time
that Baker wasn't available free agent again, Dak finished second
in MVP voting.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
You're not moving on from Dak at that point. You're
giving him the money.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
It's been a timing issue because I think if there
had been like I think, if there had been available
options before.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
They gave him the money.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
It kind of felt like that was part of the
reason why they drugged Dak along for two years instead
of giving him the money earlier, because it kind of
felt like they were like, well, maybe we can trade
for Aaron Rodgers, or maybe we can get into the
Kirk Cousins sweepstakes if we finally decide that we're moving
on from Dak, But those at that time has passed

(56:53):
at this point just because of the way his contract structured.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
Lastly, on the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Game, it looks it's like Cavante Turpin, Trayvon Diggs, and
Tyler Guidon were all full participants at practice earlier today,
so it looks like they are all good to go.
We talked about Cooper Bebee starting center. He's out six
to eight weeks, so brock Hoffman will be starting.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
More for the shotgun. You would think you would think
it's not going to take away from Javonte's numbers instead
of being a downhill runner that he is.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Yeah, it'll be interesting. I mean, I'm curious to see.
You know it's a Bears defense that gave up fifty
two points last week. They obviously are going to be
playing with Pisson Vinegar trying not to get embarrassed back
to back weeks. They're you know, still trying to get
their new head coach his first win, Ben Johnson from
the Lions last year. I I I think that one

(57:49):
and a half point line is pretty I think I
think these teams are the Cowboys are definitely closer to
the Bears than they are the Lions or Packers of
that division. So oh, also, no deron Bland in practice.
It looks like he's set to miss another week as well.
With that foot in Oh, DJ More and a Doozier,

(58:10):
that's gonna be trouble, They're.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Gonna be trouble. And if Caleb can actually get some
time to throw the ball. But what's here's here's a
here's a what you might call it a quick bet,
what they call those prop bets. Yeah, one and a
half over under trick plays by Chicago. Uh, because he

(58:34):
is the master of trick plays. Yeah, I think he
has to pull some out. He's got to pull some out.
Everybody's wondering when it's gonna happen. I would I would
think we see at least one one, so you're gonna
go under.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
I think I got I think, yeah, it wouldn't surprise
me if we see him dig deep into the bag
and we get one in the first half and one
in the second half. Hell, we might get one on
each of the first three drives. Kyle Orton is who
you were trying to think? Yeah, also another vagabond Cowboys
quarterback at one point like that's why the when when

(59:10):
you said it and I started listening listing those other
Cowboys quarterback from the dark years, Uh, it made me remember, Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
I want to believe the Cowboys. If Dak plays as
good as he's doing and Pickens becomes that man, it
seems like Turpin's your second wide receiver at the moment.
Well it's CD and Pickens and then Turf is the
tur seems like he's gotten more targets. He's certainly getting
more integrated.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
He I mean in week one, we saw more of
him on you know, reverses or end rounds, real quick
handoff stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Didn't see that as even on the crucial crucial play
on the Philly it was to Turpin. Yeah, that was
like when they were like near the red zone right.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Well, and again, if if it's a tie game in
the fourth quarter, all you need is an average turp
return and one first down, need turn a Turp turn, uh,
and then you're in Aubrey's field goal range. So I
think the one and a half number makes me think,

(01:00:17):
I don't think. I don't think the Cowboys win this
game by one point. I think if the Cowboys win,
they win by a field goal, which means they cover.
So I'm going give me the Dallas Cowboys to cover
surprise one and a half. Look, I picked against them opening,
now I didn't. I thought there was no way they

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were covering against Philly, and they ended up doing it
in the elements.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
What what's the weather going to be?

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
It's not gonna because it should be good. But you
were just up there in Chicago it was fine, still windy.
Still Wendy is the windy city, buddy. Let me keep
on the wind.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Come when the fall, when fall happens, Yeah, right off
the lakes, the leaves, off the trees.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Huh, NFL picks, But I'm gonna go with a shocker.
I think I'm not gonna say a complete blowout, but
a healthy spanking the Chicago puts on Dallas. Who this
is like, I just got a feeling, just a feeling.
So I'm gonna take Dallas minus one and a half

(01:01:25):
and you were taking Chicago plus one and a half.
You get some shorthand there, buddy, Chi d a L No.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
I like to write it all out because a lot
of the I'll look at I'll look at it and
then I'll be like, Dalchii, what the hell sounds like
the roommates Starbucks order.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
I if Dallas, if Dallas wants to be a serious
playoff contender, you gotta win this game.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Oh yeah, there's just no way around. This is just
this is just the time of the year where the
Hope train goes like this, Like you said, like it's
a Hope brotherer coaster. No, this is the Yeah, it's
like the Yankees for me. Ah, we suck again.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
I think the Cowboys would lose a lot of momentum
if they lose this game in Chicago. Let's talk your
Niners next, so we can get them on the board
as well. We've got cards at Niners. Tell me about
the Niners injury situation because this line is only San
Francisco minus two and a half. They're two and a

(01:02:30):
half point favorites. So against the division rivals.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
We'll find out tomorrow. If we get pretty party might
come back after one week. Really, yeah, even though MiG
Jones showed out, he showed out against the Yeah, what's like,
you want to beat a division opponent. Yeah, yeah, division opponent.
But we'll see, Like, so he practiced, but now they're

(01:02:56):
having to see how he reacts, is what we heard,
John Lynch. And so we're gonna see if he's like
if his foot's inflamed. They're gonna give it another week,
but we definitely want to keep on pace. We already
got one win in the one win in the division.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
You know, we need these division wins if we're gonna
be hopefully get in the playoffs where we don't have
to go wildcard route.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
You know, we got to like win the division. And
because believe it or not, man, you know, the Rams
are they're that they're that team. If Matthew Stafford's healthy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
The Rams will be one of the other games we're
picking this week because they I think they have the
game of the week matchup.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
Seattle's defense is ridiculous. And if Sam Darnold is like
you already said, he already has like a high completion rating. Yeah,
I mean he's doing great. Yeah, hitting hitting the target
at least Jin's Nibuka Smith.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Oh, the wide receiver from Uh Yeah, I'm horrible. Let's
go with that though, I like, I like something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
And Jingba Smith? Is it Smith at the end or Jigma? No,
it's uh Smith and Jimba. Yes, that's right. Yeah, that's
about right. That is correct. So yeah, Jackson Smith and
Jackson Smith and Jimba He he's becoming the truth and

(01:04:22):
he's got he's gonna be he's on his second year
rookie deal.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
But he doesn't play for Arizona. We're saying, fran I'm
just talking about the division.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
This is this is why we need this game because Arizona,
believe it or not, they've been their first round picks
besides Marvin Harrison Junior, have all been defense. They are
trying to be a defensive team, you know, And that's
what scares me because you have Buddha Baker back there

(01:04:52):
stalking one of the best safeties in the game. You know,
and that you know, turnovers kill momentum. And we've seen
Purty in his first game with the stellar Seahawks defense
throw it in, throw some ill timed passes where I'm like,

(01:05:15):
what are you doing? A? Yeah, what are you doing here?

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
I will say the Cardinals lost their top three corners
during that week two game. Two of them are day
to day and one of them has already been ruled out.
I was, uh, Garrett Williams is out and Will Johnson
and Max Melton are still day to day, so they
might be down a corner or two or even three.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
I see this being a thirty touch game for McCaffrey again.
We're gonna have to lean on Hi until we get
our receiving core back. But when we do get our
receiving core back, we're gonna have one the deepest receiving
course in the league.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Does Kyle what is Kyler Murray? What level of fear
or confidence does Kyler Murray instilled in you?

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Like? What? As someone who sees it as zero but
very minimal?

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
See, I'm someone I have the memories of you know
O you Kyler Murray being unstoppable in the Cotton Bowl
Big twelve, Right, exactly, but against Texas, specifically watching him
in the Cotton Bowl, and you know, I've seen him
beat the Cowboys with the Cardinals, but as someone who
watches a lot of that division because you're a Niners fan,

(01:06:28):
it's just I'm curious what you're rating. I guess, like,
where does he slot in in the quarterback tier?

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
List? To you? Is he a top is he even
a top fifteen guy?

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Is he a fringe top twenty? He's between fifteen and twenty?

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Yeah, you know, and it's just a he's small, can't
see the line, be happy feet and see makes ill
time decisions. And speaking of ill time decisions, he had
to appolo Gizz this week because he took a picture
wearing his Virginia Tech Michael Vick jersey on his dog

(01:07:07):
while he's holding his pit bull and he's like, oh wait,
I had I didn't think about this at all. I
had no idea this would cause people to get upset and.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Whatever happened to rehabilitation man? Come on, man, yeah, he
served his time. Let's put it on. It was just dogs.
Come on, watch yourself. Yeah, don't look. We give dogs
a lot of riots when you're about to be get
called the boo ball is about to get called up
in there, buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
If you've got enough money, if you got enough money,
you can get out of just about anything unless a
dog is involved.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Yeah. But here's my thing is when he's going to
roll out, we have speed. We have h Fred Warner,
the world beater. He is like, what was it some
notable receiver basically said he's the He's this generation's Ray
Lewis for real, And I've been trying to.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Guy is vicious. He's faster than any what's the argument?
Who would who would that? Who else would that even be?

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
And like people always say, oh, Bobby Wagner And I'm
like that was another error. Yeah, that's that's Patrick Willis. Yeah,
that's you know, that's a different time. God, Patrick Willis
was so awesome. Oh he was brut Yeah, and uh
but like we got Fred Warner, we got Nick Martiner, rookie,
he's fast, but he was still working at but de Winters.

(01:08:29):
He's our third year guy. He he's got that instinct
where he just knows to go, like when to break
and when not to break. And he is becoming the
second coming of the Great dream Law. You know, so
I'm not worried about him rolling out. I want him
to roll out. I want him to feel that pressure.

(01:08:50):
And then he makes a throw and then one of
our safeties is going to come over and pick it,
you know, And he's just gonna make ill time throws.
I guarantee he's gonna have two interceptions at least that game,
and he's going to have three sacks if not more.
And the only thing that can beat us is us,
you know. So that's with penalties and pretty much it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
With that being said, do you beat yourself enough that
you don't cover two and a half points?

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
No, Mac Jones look good if we roll with him. Party,
that man's that man is Brockthaniel the next coming mystery relevant.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Yeah, I have a hard I have a really hard
time putting any faith in the in the Cardinals on
the road, even whether it's Party or mac Jones.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
And this is our homecoming, this is our first game home. Oh,
this is your first home game. Yeah? Remember we Yeah, yeah,
it's like we both remember I told the start of
the week last Monday or Tuesday. Yeah, we when we
go to and oh new listeners every five minutes too,
And oh, on the road we've gone to the NFC
Chainampionship or the super Bowl. It's fun.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
It's a fun fact. That's a fun fact. Yeah, I
I I just think the Niners are the Cardinals. Two
and oh feels way more of a paper tiger than
the Niners too, and so I I think I and
you might actually have a kicker now, which would help
cover a and a half point spread.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
Yeah, even though he missed his first extra point kick,
I was like, that was a bad start. I was like, oh,
buddy was one of his field goals. I guess yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
I I hate to do it, but I think I
agree with you. I am going Niners to cover that
two and a half. Uh. There are two games that
I think serve We can argue and debate and bicker
over which one of these is actually the game of
the week. But we're gonna pick both of these games.

(01:10:54):
So we'll start with the one that happens first. This
is Oh and I should say that Niners game is
a three to twenty five kickoff the noon window before
we get our Cowboys or Niners on the field.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
I think this is the game of the week. Two
and oh rams at two and oh Eagles.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
The line is blessed you. The line is that's a
playoff Philly minus three. It feels like an opening round
playoff matchup Philly minus three and a half at home,
at home in the link against the two and oh Rams,
who have looked they haven't looked like they hit.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Their full stride. Now they look better than the first week.
I mean, if they can keep them from third and short,
where the tush push is utilized twelve times, I will
be curious to see if they If the league tells
how to spawn. They got to respond to the fact
that half the guards are popping off early.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
The guards are leaving early. Every single linement is lined
up in the neutral zone. The league is copyright putting
copyright claims on anybody on social media. Every single clip
I've sent LG to play the replay of them jumping early,
they've all been struck with copyright claims. That's why we
haven't shown any of them. Really, Yes, they continue like

(01:12:21):
are they protecting Philly? It seems like they're protecting It
seems like you don't do that unless you know you
have a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Yeah, it's like if you if the league, why didn't
they get copyright all those bag calls.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
That kept the Chiefs from losing well, because I think
that is less about the integrity of Like this is
pretty blatantly clear, Like you can just see and you
know the fact that the tush push was one vote
shy of being banned this last this summer, this last offseason.

(01:12:57):
Clearly the NFL knows everyone in the league is keeping
an eye on that one specific play and they don't
want they don't want it to be spread day in
and day out of how much they're letting the Eagles
get away. I think you're gonna see a crackdown, yeah,
And I think you might even see something more dramatic
than that, potentially starting like mid season.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
Yeah, I think they. I think if they're gonna do something,
they're gonna do something early. If they're going to do.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Something, yeah, I think the first time they line up
for that, I guarantee you the official step in and
very clearly denote where the neutral zone is. If I
was if I was the Eagles head coach, I would
hold off on doing the toush push unless you're at
the goal line. Oh you mean you wouldn't do it
on twelve percent of the plays? You were exactly like

(01:13:47):
they did last year.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Last week, it's a problem problem now because.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Twelve percent of your offensive snaps where the toush rugby
right well, and also on how many of those twelve
percent of snaps did your offensive did your guards fire early?
How many of those twelve percent of snaps where you
lined up like all, I think you're right. I think
Philly's gonna be like, we got to lower the heat

(01:14:12):
level a little bit and use it more strategically.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
So that means a they're going to try to get
their wide receivers and involved in the game. They got
to get Aj Brown involved fantasy You.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Mean the Aj Brown that the Cowboys held to one
catch and eight yards on opening night.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Yeah, don't be so excited, but they also also got
held to like two catches the next game. Just let
me have it, because I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Trying to I'm trying to believe in Eberflusa's scheme where
we only blit the time or we only run man
three percent of the time.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
Y'all said the bland out there planes that helped.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
That helped us significantly. Yeah, that helped significantly. A West
Coast team traveling to the East Coast for a noon
kickoff is a normally is a betting for the East Coast.
It's a betting man's favorite because you you bet against
the West Coast team traditionally.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
But that gets that gets the energy up of they're
all counting against us, we're the underdogs, blah blah blah
and all that kind of good stuff. And Matthew Stafford,
if there's one person that eats that junk up in
stat no question him is all about it too. Yeah.

(01:15:29):
So the fact that they're gonna do like and the
fact that the Rams have a really good defense surprising me.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Yeah, Like, oh, they've invested in their edge rushers the
last couple of drafts.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
They've got some dudes.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
I was really surprised at their d line, and I
was surprised at their corners, you know. And they got
some good young corners that you know are going to
be put to the test with Puka Davante and then
who's their third guy at well, their deep threat and
then Tyler Higbee, that guy's a vet, you know. And

(01:16:09):
then some people are saying beware of Blake Quorums, this
is his coming out party, but I see no reason why.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
Kyrine Williams, Yeah, I don't see why you're going to
be taking like that can catch the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
He's a three down back and he led your team
in touchdowns last year.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
So oh, I didn't realize that this is Actually they
did this exact not as far east last week, but
they traveled from LA to Tennessee to Nashville for a
noon game against the Titans. It's back to back. They
definitely went back to LA three and a half, isn't that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
What I said? Three and a half, So you're getting
the three point home field advantage, plus they're getting the
the point over on the thing. I'm going to pick
the upset. I'm going to NFC West do you think?

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
Do you so you're getting three and a half points?
Are you thinking it actually is an upset or not?
You're gonna get counted either way, But.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Yeah, is it. It's not going to be shockingly upset.
But like if you get seven, you know analysts in here,
two or three of them are going to pick the Rams,
Oh for sure, I think with a team, but the
majority will pick the Eagles. Yeah, I would. I would
think the majority of public money is they're going to
be like they're going to have to get Davante and

(01:17:35):
aj Brown involved in the passing game period.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Yeah, the the half point on that hook makes me.
That's the part that makes me nervous. I think it's,
you know, twenty four to twenty one Philly, twenty seven
to twenty four, thirty one, twenty eight, that would be
really high scoring.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
The overrun the field goal wins it there tied.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
I kind of think it comes down to an Elliott
field goal long field goal exactly, but then the Rams
still win. I exactly, you would still cover me. But
all that being said, I will I will take the
Eagles to cover.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
So give me Eagles. Do you pick the NFC East
and you picked the NFC West. It's funny how that works,
isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
The other potential game of the week that I had
circled was the Monday night matchup. I think this one
we could so the Cowboys Bears over under is fifty
and a half, and that's because both of those teams
are terrible defenses.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
The only over under bigger than that game this week
is Lions Ravens, and I think that's more because those
teams are so good offensively. Yeah, the over under on
that game is fifty three and a half. But the
individual line is Baltimore minus four and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
This could be a Super Bowl preview very much so,
you know, very much so. And I'm waiting to see
what Chad Hutchinson.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
Uh does Chad Hutchinson? Wait, Steven Jared Goff? No, the
edge rusher that Aiden Hutchinson? Aiden, Yes, of course, Aiden,
like fifty other Adians. My kid knows that's popular this era,
Aiden Hutchinson. Where did I get Chad Hutchinson? Well, because
I said it a minute ago. It's a former Cowboys,

(01:19:26):
that's right, terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
So Aiden Hutchinson, I'm seeing this is going to be
his first game back. That's going to be the like
the circle game. You're circling it on the schedule, you know.
And I think he's gonna get about two and a
half three sacks this game. That's a big number on
Lamar on Lamar, that's a big going to man. He's

(01:19:49):
drinking all the five hour energies, you know what I'm saying.
He's taking a blue choe just to go out there.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
What was that that video we had as the guy
in the over league, No, no Diddy, but all did
I took a blue cheer man. I'm horning. I'm horning
to win. I'm morning to football. Yeah, so, I think
with eight and Hutchson, he's gonna seal that. Definitely roll

(01:20:18):
out to the right for Lamar because that's his favorite
thing to do. You know, pocket breaks down, roll out
to the right. You have to deal with eight Hutchson.
That's why I'm thinking he's gonna get a sack or
two because when he's gonna roll out and he's just
gonna be poof. I'm right in front of you, you
know what I'm saying. So they're gonna have to chip
them block them. Z Flowers or no, Zay Flowers, right,

(01:20:40):
za Flowers. Looks like he took over the role of
Mark Andrews. Andrews is a shadow of himself, and.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
I think we kind of all saw that coming. They
also are waiting unlikely.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
To get back to Yeah so, but it actually has
you know, Lamar actually has a great receiving core right now.
DeAndre Hopkins mister, you know, coming back from the dead,
you know, taking shots at Arizona, being like like, why
are y'all so mad at me? You know, He's like,
I been good for y'all. Yeah, and Arizona just totally

(01:21:11):
disrespects him at every turn. So you got two good receivers,
you got King Henry. I think they're gonna try to
if I was gonna go over under on the points,
I think both coaches are gonna try to switch it
up and run the ball. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
I think I get this game over in a hurry. Yeah,
I think I would go under that over under that
fifty three and.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
A half is just giant. I would. I would.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
It's no fun playing the unders. But I think this
is one where I agree with you. I think you're
gonna see more of a control the clock with our.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
Run game, Montgomery than you got Henry. With who's the backup,
not not just as Hill, but it's just As Hill
the backup. Who is the Ravens? I know he might
be the third stringer Justice Till, Oklahoma State's own.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
Yeah, you never seen because it's always Derrick Henry, it's
it's listed Justice Hills.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Yeah, so I think he's more the third down passing back,
but he can still bang. And Lamar is definitely I
think he's second on the running back chart.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
Yeah, exactly, exactly, that's your backup running back. Four and
a half is a for like you said, a game
that might potentially be a super.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
Bowl three Ravens minus four and a half correct, Oh,
gimme Detroit aka dang it. I was hoping it sounded
like you had tucked yourself into mister five touchdowns last week. Yeah,
Tarry Golf, you're taking Lions. Saint Brown probably got another
list that is Oh, trick play trick, play the chant

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we have dolphin It was, it was. It was a
passive the middle. Yeah, look the with the backwards lateral throw.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
If you're giving Dan Campbell four and a half points,
I will take those four and a half points on
Dan's behalf.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
I agree with you. He's gonna get angry, he's gonna
motivate his team, give me especially after last week putting
fifty two on the board. And I think Aiden Hudgson
has his uh breakout a.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
True breakout post since Yeah, because he got his first sack.
But it hasn't really he hasn't been the disruptor exactly.
Was so just for those keeping count at home, we
we've picked four games. We're gonna pick one more from
the rest of the list. I'm actually gonna have the
roommate randomly pick a number and that'll determine the fifth

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game we picked this week. But I took dallasmate, I
took Dallas minus one and a half. You took Chicago.
We both agreed San fran minus two and a half.
I took Eagles minus three and a half. You got
Rams and the points. And then we both agreed on Lions.
So we've agreed on to we've differed onto. Let's look

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burn through the rest of the week.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
Here.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
Packers at Browns. I don't think we need to talk
a whole lot about there's no reason to talk about
the Browns. Green Bay seven and a half point favorites.
There kind of surprise that's not eight and a half
or even nine.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
I think they take out their starters in the third
good point, good point. Colts at Titans, which now it's
two and oh.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Do the Colts punt at all for a third straight
game going up against Tennessee's defense.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
Tennessee's d is not that bad, but Daniel is just
on another level right now.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
Yeah, it's insane what what he has done these first
two games, coming off the scrap he leaving New York.
I think the Titans are the Titans are an interesting
zero to two team because they're clearly they have no
desire to win in games. They have their quarterback of
the future, cam Ward. It's all about building around him.

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This is a process that they won high draft picks exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
Colts minus four and a half is kind of a
funny number, though, because if you had told me the
Colts were four and a half point favorites over Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (01:25:18):
They're just trying to see if Oh Daniel's going to
come back down to earth at some point. Very much.
Throw four interceptions instead of four touchdowns?

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
What could be what looks like on paper an interesting
game now not so much? Two and Oh bingals at
the one in one Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
Tyreek Hill for the touchdown ties it up, look at
them back handspring, zeb I hope you started him. I'd
need to I did, zeb I didn't look. I didn't
look at her. I keep forgetting I need I need
to pay better attention.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
Uh Bingles playing of course without Joe Burrow, Vikings playing
without JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
So we have the Jake.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
Browning versus is Carson Wentz Bowl in Minnesota. Who's got
the who's got the points on that you want to
take a wild guess. I was gonna ask you it's
it's the Bengals. No, Minnesota minus two and a half.
But traditionally Vegas gives three points to the home team,
so they're basically saying, dude, we don't know it's it's yeah,
so Minnesota at home with that defense, sure, let's go

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with them.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
I'm going with the Bengals. They don't have Vikings, doesn't
have Addison for another game.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
So I think we've seen Jake Browning be at least
serviceable and get be able to get the ball into
the playmakers and into Jamar Chase and to.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
A lot of swing passes. Oh my god, what's the Higgins? Higgins? Yeah,
thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
I think I think potentially, if this is the game
we end up picking, I would lean Minnesota just because
of the defense. Uh, but I hate that game. I
hope she doesn't pick that number. Uh, Steelers Patriots. I
don't think this game has any impact on anything this season.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
You know, the Steelers have the highest highest budget on
defense in the whole league. They spend more money on
defense well, I mean what anybody in the whole league,
and they have been giving up forty points sixty five.
Seventy percent of that is just TJ. Watt's salary.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
You know, it's like, what do the Packers spend on
defense now that they signed the Mica deal?

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
Well, no, they spend like I mean, they're not spending
anything on Aaron Rodgers. It's all incentive base. I think
he got sixteen base salary he's not getting he's not
demanding a forty you know, they're improved.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Yeah, and it seemingly chose the Steelers just so he
could play the Jets week one in case he blew
his leg out again, so he at least got to
play the Jets first. Yeah, neither one of these teams
are are falling into the playoff or fringe playoff column.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
Steelers ded actually step up. That's where they're getting. They're
getting called out.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
Yeah, Steelers minus one and a half on a game.
Jets bucks bucks bucks pretty easily. You want to take
a guess on this line. Six and a half dude,
My man.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
Bailed that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:18):
Yeah, it is Buccaneers six and a half bucks at
home justin fields out tyrod Taylor in Jets winless. Baker
Uh conducting miracles in late game situation.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
Bakers.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
He's he's a miracle that played in one of the
biggest Texas powerhouse programs at Lake Travis. Uh turned down
scholarship offers so he could walk on at Tech so
he could have the nobody believed in me.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
I was a walk on.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
Yeah, Uh is the one first overall pick in the draft.
But still somehow no one believed in you because you
were a walk on.

Speaker 1 (01:28:56):
The baker towards a cl only to jump up Gardner
And you know what his quote was, Well, you know
we're not going to take any ship man, right bringing
cars back on your ass now for that one. Yeah,
we lay in the episode and that's a baker. I

(01:29:16):
love that quote.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
Yeah, that covers Raiders at Commanders an interesting game. If
Jaden Daniels is not playing, maybe Marcus Mariota or how
does he what he changed Mariota Now I think it's Mario.
I think it's Mariota and I had always said it Mariota. Oh,
it's like the Bejon Bijon Like he's like, I like

(01:29:40):
Bijon right, but my mom calls me Bijon.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
Right or the other way around, whichever one. But no,
he likes being called the spicy Mustard.

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
Raiders and Commanders both one and one. I think obviously
Commanders have higher hopes for this season than Vegas.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
Does It all depends on Jade Daniels. If you gone
to the head, who's Who's home field? Washington? I'll pick Washington.

Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
Yeah, it's a Washington minus three and a half. I
kind of I love the Geno Smith career revival. Uh
in you know, see, I want I want the Raider
They're a team that I want the Raiders to be.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
Good because it's silver and black and they're just awesome
having the black Hole. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
Uh, you know Al Davis being the big giant f
you to anybody and everybody. Yeah, the league is better
when the Raiders are good. Yes, I am not sure.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
Jerry Rice played for the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Oh god, I've forgot about those years. Yeah, the Super Bowl,
that's right. Yeah, when uh what's his name? The the
TCU offensive lineman had a bipolar episode and went missing
the day before the Yeah, man, what was his name?

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
You don't remember that? No? Barrett Robbins? Is that? But
bring does that ring any bells? Man? Back in that
day of My concerns are.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
Yes, yes, it was Barrett Robbins, and he was a
former a TCU horned Frog. He was first team All
Pro in two he was first team All Southwest Conference
back when we actually had conferences that meant something. Forty
ninth finish in the nineteen ninety five draft, and the
day before the Super Bowl he was reported missing for

(01:31:27):
most of the day after not taking his antidepressants. He
surfaced that I wanted to get a little bit more
angry for this game. Surface that night so incoherent. He
didn't know where he was and al Davis wanted al
Davis told coach Callahan that Robbins was going to play

(01:31:48):
in the game, and the development coach Willie Brown had
Robbins running sprints in the parking lot on the morning
of the game to see if he could play, and
Callahan overstepped al Davis and said, no, we're not We're
not playing him, and then it was gone, this man's life.
I know he had a psychotic episode, but fun fact, yeah,

(01:32:11):
so Washington, Yeah, I tend to agree with you there.
We'll see if the roommate picks that one for our
final game. How about Falcons and Panthers. I kind of
think the Falcons are frisky I think the Falcons are
better than Ion is no question, the second best, third
best running back behind sa Quan and Henry, maybe even

(01:32:35):
second in front of Henry, just because of everything else he.

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
Can bet on McCaffrey's name.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
You think McCaffrey's still ahead of Bijon, Yes, I don't
know about that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
Oh, I know. I think he's ahead of Henry.

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
Oh, I don't know about that either. Homes maybe again,
maybe because of everything else he does the way he can.
He blocks, he catches, he does every thing the receiving is.

Speaker 1 (01:32:57):
It's not like if you're looking at fancy points, he's
above all of them on fantasy points.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
Yeah, and see again, if you're looking at fantasy points,
you would say Daniel Jones top five quarterback in the league,
which I don't think is true.

Speaker 1 (01:33:11):
I think he zeb hit up the old super check. Oh, yes,
we've a little collsion there, zeb, Yeah, we've got we.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
We are indeed playing Tyreek Hill tonight, so nothing to
fear there. Falcons minus five and a half feels like
a lot for a division game. I'm not sure the
Falcons are six points better than the Panthers. Panthers almost
came back and won that game against Arizona.

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
They have they have a I always say, a sneaky
good defense, so.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
They invested in it. So they they had been the
worst pass rush team for the last two years running. Yeah,
and then they draft two edge rushers in the first
round of this most reason they trade back into the
first round.

Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
They've got some young cornerbacks that are damn good, you know,
So yeah, I go, I go Falcons with that for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
Well if that is the one that's again Atlantic, Well
do you have any trust in C. J.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
Stroud right now?

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
Because the Texans are oh and two and trying to
avoid the dreaded oh and three start as they take
on the Jaguars in Jacksonville. Jaguars one in one, guess
this line, take a guess on this one in jackson
Jacksonville two.

Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
And a half. I'm gonna say Jacksonville four and a half. No, oh,
so you went even way, even higher. It's only Jacksonville
one and a half. It's only only one and a half.
So they're thinking if it was a neutral field they
they put Texans would still be I was like I
was going to say, is the coach and Trevor Lawrence

(01:34:46):
are getting at each other. Yeah, Cohen and Liam Cohen
and Lawrence. That was and did you see the what
it was?

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
Cohen was telling Lawrence to hit throw the ball at
guy's numbers instead of up at their hands, like that
was the And of course, like you would expect, both
of them brushed it off as nothing in post game.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
But I I'm with you. I think again kind of
like the Bears, where it's when you're kissed off at
your coach, you like, look at uh, what was it?
The rejuvenation old buddy, Like when someone tells me they
don't believe in you all the time, like Tua. Oh,
and then you have Mike McDaniel's coming there, and like Mike,
Mike McDaniel might be dead man walking still. But it

(01:35:27):
made to like it was like a research into TUA.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
I think like the Bears, the position they find themselves
in where every time they hire a new coach, he's
inheriting what is supposed to be the franchise quarterback. Yeah,
you know it's Ben Johnson with Caleb Williams in Chicago.
Now it might be Liam Cohen with Trevor Lawrence and Jacksonville.
Now I mean that, like you said, already.

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
Franchises need to be more cut through, Like the Niners,
you know, they invested ridiculous amount and Trey Lance and
then they're like nope, you know, and even in the
what was it when they drafted Rock Party, they like
Shanahan goes over to Lynch and says, I think our
third string quarterback is our first.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
You have to admit, though, it's not a good team
building strategy to rely on drafting a seventh round quarterback
that you.

Speaker 1 (01:36:20):
Just got lucky.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
Yeah, well, like he's in the same way the Cowboys
got lucky with Dak being.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
As good as he is. You just don't know Tom
Brady being that in sixth round, you know, sixth round
looking like always, he was just a backup of Michigan,
you know, playing in garbage time. So it's just when
you when you see that dog and you know, and
that leadership and the way they hold themselves and their

(01:36:47):
decision making is key in practice. It was like they
saw Trey Lance go all over the place, you know,
they saw.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
Jimmy clearly saw that he wasn't going to be able
to run their system the way that they couldn't run
any No. Well, he he ran a system for what
eleven games at North Dakota State and became a top
five pick.

Speaker 1 (01:37:10):
Like it's lot upside.

Speaker 2 (01:37:12):
It's so the one of the greatest, one of the
greatest rules of football I've ever heard in my life
was the Bill Parcells rule. Belichick followed it as well.
It's if you haven't taken was it twelve, twenty four,
thirty six? If you haven't taken snaps as the starting
quarterback for thirty six games in college, I have no

(01:37:35):
interest in you. If you haven't started at least three.

Speaker 1 (01:37:38):
Years then so he's not going. He's not going after
those flashy highs been trophy, Like, I.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
Want to see you play three years worth of quarterback
in college before I even begin to evaluate you.

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
Yeah, And that's like now, that's also the old mentality
is we're gonna draft you, but you're not going to
sit there and you know play right, you know you go,
You're gonna sit you for you You're gonna hold a
clipboard and learn, you know, you know. Aaron Rodgers the
Brett Faarr tends to work. At least in Green Bay.
It seems like it matures them and gets their headspace
in the right you know, right zone to get the

(01:38:14):
momentum behind their.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
Back there it is, this is a this is a
more interesting game then. I mean, it's a great division
matchup Broncos at Chargers. Chargers two and oh Broncos one
in one, coming off that lost to the Colts last week.
The Broncos are throwing up some warning signs for me,

(01:38:35):
Yeah they are, and the Chargers look pretty damn good.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
We all know Herbert can be that guy. Yeah, Herbert
can be a well why do we all know that?

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
Because, let me, we have rushed to anoint anoint Justin
Herbert as a true top tier quarterback. But we haven't
seen that translate into postseason success yet. We haven't seen
that because trans laid into top three MVP votes yet.

Speaker 1 (01:39:04):
I mean, he looks like everything you would ever want
for the quarter that he has the arm r he
has the posture. He's six foot five. You know that
means you can see over the quarterback. He has the
scrambling skills. You know, he has the you know, unshakable confidence.
Now you don't see him in there because their team

(01:39:26):
is always dog crap.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
Which again, what's the most important position in defense football?
It's quarterback and usually but then when you're a top
tier quarterback, you're not a He had.

Speaker 1 (01:39:38):
Melvin he basically he was in talk on MVP. On
his rookie year, he passed over five thousand yards except
the rookie passing record, so that's why he was being anointed.
But he didn't have the weapons he had old man
Keenan Allen, which I love, you know, the resurgence of
going back there on a one year deal. He sign

(01:39:59):
for three years. Man, in my opinion, he needs those weapons,
you know, Like why did Patrick Mahomes get all that
love because he got Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey. All Right,
you need two good options to go to with a
solid running back.

Speaker 2 (01:40:19):
And then you're not suggesting if you had put Herbert
in Kansas City with the same weapons, that it would
look exactly like Pat Mahomes.

Speaker 1 (01:40:29):
Does I think that's a Are you joking? Do you?
Who do you think is a better deep ball through
or Mahomes or Herbert?

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
Probably Herbert, I guess on death ball, still I see
a bunch of touchdowns. I don't think you can immediately
say Herbert would go on to win three super Bowls
in his first nine years, But.

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
That's also having a stellar defense.

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
The only quarterback that would ever have a better start
to him than Tom Brady, and he gets.

Speaker 1 (01:40:57):
Coached by Andy Reid, one of the greatest coaches ever
to do it. I think that's a big part this
why his resurgon is he's getting coached by John Harball.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
I completely agree. I think that for the first time,
like the Staley experiment compared to please Jim john it's
a gym out there, Jim out there and then John
in Baltimore. The Brandon Staley experiment. Compared to what Harball
is bringing to that room, that's just got it. That's

(01:41:27):
like going from Jimmy Johnson to Dave Campo. You know,
like that's but in reverse.

Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
So now that's why you're seeing all this. You saw
it last year and Mike Williams, who retired this year,
was with a second quarterback. They drafted Quinn Johnson to
be their first. You know who's showing up Now finally
he's showing up because Lad McConkey. That helps a lot
to the late round stunner, you know PPR machine. He

(01:41:54):
wasn't that late, was he.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
I feel like he was a I feel like he
jumped on board like third I was thinking second, let's
see real quick, uh, second round thirty fourth almost first
round pick. He jumped up boards like crazy, okay, because
everyone saw Combine. Well yeah, one thousand and he tested
out like, uh, what was the the Rams not Puka,

(01:42:17):
but the before him.

Speaker 1 (01:42:19):
Uh uh Cooper Cup, Cooper Cup exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
Everyone saw what the Rams did with Cooper Cup, and
then it became the hunt for the next you know.

Speaker 1 (01:42:28):
Yeah, but see, I don't I never got that, only
because Cooper Cup had the size to block. Yeah, a little,
definitely bigger, but that, but got Lavic Conkie, Quentin Johnson
actually becoming that stud and then you got Keenan Allen,
the old man who can still run routes and catch
like still with some of the best hands in the game.

Speaker 2 (01:42:48):
So it sounds like you like Chargers minus two and
a half at home? Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, I don't disagree.
We'll burn through the rest of these and then get
stuff to pick a number. Saints at Seahawks. Saints are
another team that have no interest in winning games. Seahawks
at home, that's I mean, feel pretty comfortable. The number
is insane, though, when a team as average as the

(01:43:10):
Seahawks is getting or is having to cover seven and
a half points.

Speaker 1 (01:43:15):
That's a little that makes me nervous, that.

Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
Might make me say, you want to pick give me
the Saints with the points and Vinzer Rattler did put
up twenty one on one on y'all y'all, but like
it was a late touchdown that they targeted after up
in stout win downs. Then only other game besides the
ones we've talked about already, Chiefs at Giants, a battle

(01:43:38):
of oh and two teams.

Speaker 1 (01:43:41):
The Kansas City Chiefs and the.

Speaker 2 (01:43:43):
Dude New York Football Giants both own to Casey case
only six and a half point favorites.

Speaker 1 (01:43:52):
Season a half points.

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
Uh, the Seahawks are bigger favorites because they're at home.
Case is on the road in New York. But yeah,
feels like the Chiefs are wanting to embarrass somebody to
try to prevent that oh and three start. I feel, man,
the reps are gonna be heavily involved in this game, man, Like,
come on, man.

Speaker 1 (01:44:12):
They just put up forty something on Dallas. That's correct,
thirty seven thirty seven on Dallas. Yeah, thirty seven. I
thought they both were in the forties.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
I was thirty seven forty final score. Okay, all right, roommate,
I need a number from you. One to sixteen can't
be one, can't be sixteen three only we're going low.

Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
We're going so one. So two would have been Packers Browns.
Three is.

Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
Colts, Titans, Colts Titans, Indie minus four and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:44:53):
Ninety's four and a half. I'm ryan Danny Dimes until
he lets me down. You will take final answer. Colts
minus four and a half. Colts Jonathan Taylor looked damn
good last last week.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
It's going on your ledger. We have you down, Colts
minus four and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:45:13):
Are you going the upset? Cam Ward have his signature game.

Speaker 2 (01:45:19):
Danny Dimes cannot do this three straight weeks. The Titans
defense is, come on, you can't three weeks. Give me,
I say, maybe a month.

Speaker 1 (01:45:31):
He can't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:32):
Ui W's own cam Ward and those old bloody fighting
Tennessee oilers.

Speaker 1 (01:45:38):
Give me the Titans. Give me that point. Give me
the Titans plus four and a half. I think.

Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
I think you're gonna I don't think the Titans win
that game, but four and under I'll take that. I mean,
I think could be again like a twenty seven to
twenty three. I'll take that, Yeah, seventeen something like that. Yeah, So, uh,
to recap, You've got Chicago, I've got Dallas, both have
San fran I've got the Eagles, You've got the Rams,

(01:46:10):
both have the Lions, and then I've got the Titans and.

Speaker 1 (01:46:13):
You've got the Colts. So we have someone will win
no ties, no ties, we will have an odd number. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:46:21):
To close it out quickly, I've got some college football talk,
but I think I might save that and I'll do
uh might record tomorrow with maybe a little who won
the Internet?

Speaker 1 (01:46:34):
A couple other NFL thoughts quickly? What do you make
of the whole.

Speaker 2 (01:46:39):
Tom Brady having the access, Like, yeah, that's I feel
like that's another Again.

Speaker 1 (01:46:45):
I think Golden Boys getting golden privilege.

Speaker 2 (01:46:48):
It kind of it's hard to argue against that, especially
when we had Antonio Pierce, former Raiders head coach.

Speaker 1 (01:46:56):
So, so what can broadchet?

Speaker 2 (01:46:58):
He came out today and specifically said Tom would go,
he would do the team meetings for the games he
was going to broadcast, and then he would call me
and if he had something he learned about the team
in the meeting, he would call and tell me and
take Antonio.

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
Pierce at his word, at your own risk.

Speaker 2 (01:47:17):
He's obviously got a vendetta against the Raiders who let
him go after giving him his.

Speaker 1 (01:47:22):
First Pearce was last year's head coach. Correct, So he's
basically calling out Tom being like, he's getting me inside information.
That's exactly what he said today. Well, that is exactly
what he's doing. You would think that's kind of thing,
kind of exactly. So his exact quote was, and as
Pete Carroll, we just have a conversation like beings.

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
His exact quote. Antonio Pierce said today. It's not hard
for him to watch a few things on a Friday
practice or hear things in a production meeting and be like, hmm,
I have tidbits. And you'd be foolish enough to think
that he's not going to share that with the Raiders
because we had those conversations about certain things.

Speaker 1 (01:48:02):
Pierce piercing the skin of the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (01:48:06):
Oh that uh uh like a like a stropper, Yeah,
like a like a bad You sound like the Noah
Noah Eagle that the Iron Eagles kid who's doing Notre
Dame games.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
He every time the love kid. Love is in the
air in South Bend touchdown Notre Dame interception Buffalo. Yeah,
we're gonna see Buffalo cover this that. There's no question. Yeah,
I think the you know between.

Speaker 2 (01:48:36):
We know he's talking to Chip Kelly midweek about the
game plan of some sort.

Speaker 1 (01:48:43):
Uh. We now have Antonio Pierce saying you see him
in the offensive coaching Booth's.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
Concerning I don't see how, like even the biggest Tom
Brady defender.

Speaker 1 (01:48:56):
I don't know how. You say, no, there's nothing man
has gotten away with the flating balls. Yes, add on
his history his track record of cheating. Yeah, yeah, come on, man,
I didn't even think about that. Yeah, obviously he's cheating.
But but he's the goat. It's kind of kind of

(01:49:17):
like kind of like the l kind of like job.
The first three one the first three championships were his defense.
Joe Montana had a good defense, but Joe Montana put
up the number.

Speaker 2 (01:49:31):
Are you really going to try to say the greatest
quarter Dan Marino is a better quarterback than Joe Montana?

Speaker 1 (01:49:38):
How many? How many Super Bowls? Dans?

Speaker 2 (01:49:40):
Oh, well, if you just put him in the chief
system where he had Tyreek Hill and the defense to
Steve Spagnolia dialing up blitzes, he would have won nine straight.
He goes now, I, uh, Brady's the best, but it's
not as clear cut. I'll give you that, just like
AJ blue ball, the the only other thing I had.

(01:50:02):
You want to take a guess right now. On the
youngest team on average in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:50:10):
UH, the youngest team on average, I want to say
Tennessee something like that, or you would think or Carolina.

Speaker 2 (01:50:20):
So the Titans still actually have some uh, they have
some veteran hangers on. The Titans are actually towards the
back half of the list. The youngest team in the
league is scary because of how good they apparently are,
or seem to be, at least through two weeks this season.

(01:50:42):
Oh wow, and they just added a major piece who's
only twenty six years old.

Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
Bay Green Bay is the youngest roster. They don't have
any old receivers. No, they have nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
They traded their oldest player, Kenny Clark to the Cowboys
for Micah like they I mean, he might not be
their oldest, but he was one of them. The UH
Packers on average, their roster is twenty five point six
years old.

Speaker 1 (01:51:08):
God man, that's pretty concerning. UH.

Speaker 2 (01:51:11):
Rest of the top five youngest, Packers, Jets, Seahawks, Cowboys, Eagless.
So the Packers are the youngest, and the Eagles are
the fifth youngest, and the Ravens are the seventh youngest.

Speaker 1 (01:51:26):
So god, man, they're gonna be good for a long.

Speaker 2 (01:51:29):
It's pretty concerning. Your forty nine Ers are one, two, three, four, five, six,
seven or eighth from the bottom. Y'all are the eighth
oldest team. Uh, the oldest three teams Steelers, Commanders, Browns,
which if you're a Browns fan, Oh, God, like, I don't,
I don't know what. Leave Cleveland, wat Just leave Cleveland.

(01:51:51):
There's no redeeming Like I know, the Guardian Bridge is
probably cool. She saw it, she said it was nice, But.

Speaker 1 (01:51:58):
Leave Cleveland. Rock and Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (01:52:01):
Yeah, and Canton is close at least the NFL Hall
of Fame. But none of your Browns players get in there,
So why do you need to be close to it?
Just leave Cleveland, LG. Let's do some lightning round before
we get out of here. Biggest news I think earlier
today the announcement from Clayton Kershaw that he will be

(01:52:23):
It's an announcement I think we all knew, but just
had expend hadn't beneficial, he announced.

Speaker 1 (01:52:28):
I didn't know. Like when I heard that, I saw
that number, I was like, man, sixteen years it flies by, Yeah, dude,
like he was. He was starting pitching while the Yankees
won their last chip. He was pitching for Highland Park
High School when.

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
That was probably that was before Roma, probably when like
Vinnie Testaverdi, yeah, was playing quarterback. Yeah, or when Bledsoe
still had the starting Yeah. Look, it's the Kershaw one.
It's so I just wish he had played for any
other team but the Dodgers the whole time. That's the

(01:53:11):
killer for me because I would.

Speaker 1 (01:53:13):
Have like, you don't like a guy that says the
same team. No, I love that. That's just West Coast. Like.

Speaker 2 (01:53:18):
I never like Dodgers games unless it's a national broadcast
or the playoffs, Like it wasn't like getting the Rangers.
Never played them, so I never got to see him
there the And you don't like interleague games. Uh, Now
it doesn't matter, But the majority of his career it
you know, when they still had DH or pitchers hitting,

(01:53:41):
it mattered a little more. Now it's it's all the same.
So I don't have a problem with it, but I
mean instant Hall of Famer. Yeah, no question. How many
has like four? Oh, I don't think it's that many,
is it. I thought it was only two. Clayton kersh
in the middle of three. Yeah, I was about split
the difference and you might have your answer here.

Speaker 1 (01:54:06):
It's three. Look at that three times.

Speaker 2 (01:54:10):
NL saw Young Award twenty eleven, twenty thirteen, and twenty fourteen.

Speaker 1 (01:54:14):
But he's missed full years of like a couple times.

Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
Yeah, and only got that one World Series championship, which
it's the most unstable World Series ever. It was Dodgers
against the Tampa Bay Rays, but it was all held
at the Rangers brand new stadium. Yeah, before the Rangers

(01:54:39):
had ever played a playoff game in that stadium. It
hosted a World Series last year. Oh yeah, surely has
last year?

Speaker 1 (01:54:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:54:51):
Yeah two rings then yeah, well Wikipedia, you need to
update your unless they took him out like I mean,
he would have gotten a ring though, because he was
I mean, did he pitch it all last year? Yeah,
but you still get as part of the organization, still
get still good a ring.

Speaker 1 (01:55:06):
I had forgotten, man, who was that? What was that
World Series? Were there any memorable interesting moments from that
or did the you like your computer just took care?
Go ahead hit me lg all right on this week,
just to let you know, a little film called One

(01:55:29):
Night in Paris came out. Wait the Paris Hilton the
sex tape.

Speaker 2 (01:55:40):
That's right, one of the greatest name sex tapes ever.
One Night in Paris.

Speaker 1 (01:55:45):
I think a lot of us have forgotten that was
dedicated to the nine to eleven victim What what okay?

Speaker 2 (01:55:55):
First of all, at the beginning of the tape, it
as the American flag says, this film is de catered
to all the nine to eleven victims.

Speaker 1 (01:56:03):
That's what they would have wanted. Never forget, never forget.
Thank you parents. Now let's bring on the Hilton sister
for being a true patriot. God, there are so many
softer ways of saying that. You can't just not say
the final word and it's okay, that's how you know

(01:56:25):
that's describing a sex act.

Speaker 2 (01:56:28):
I know we're talking about a porn but good God, man,
use some creativity man there see on look a donut buddy,
The way they're yanking people off air, Like, why do
you think.

Speaker 1 (01:56:43):
I'm being so careful here? Hit the lg.

Speaker 2 (01:56:48):
Uh we're gonna have to hold off on the David
murder case potential situation. Have you been following have you
all been following any of that box? Okay, so there's
a it's a kid, you know, like a soundclown, SoundCloud kid.

Speaker 1 (01:57:01):
I think he was.

Speaker 2 (01:57:01):
Actually, he was a gaming streamer who got tired of
all the generic music we have to play, so he
started making his own music to play during his streams.
And then people were like, oh dude, you're like, I
want to hear your music more than like you suck
at video.

Speaker 1 (01:57:18):
Let's just do the music thing. You suck a cad.

Speaker 2 (01:57:21):
Yeah, and he blew up, so you can say that
that's perfectly fine, and I mean by call of duty correct, yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:57:29):
He uh.

Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
Well, it turns out there was a dismembered body found
in his cyber truck.

Speaker 1 (01:57:36):
Oh yeah, with the Okay, I just saw this today.

Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
The body might be that of a miner. Tattoo, not
a Chilean miner that gets stuck in a cave, but
a individual under the age of eighteen, supposedly the murder.

Speaker 1 (01:57:56):
Yeah, the truck was registered to his name, and let's
just do it here. Since you do know what I'm
talking about now because I just read this, I was like,
I didn't know. I was like that he's from he
came up in Houston. Yeah, supposedly. What they know is
she has the same tattoo on her forefinger as he
has on his index finger. Was it a s where

(01:58:18):
it's like you put it up? Which again, and it's like,
so you know the person, But this would also be
one of his homies being like, hey, I can hook
you up with the old buddy to roll with me.
There's a lot what's your crew looking like right now?

Speaker 2 (01:58:36):
Yeah, there's a lot of footage that has popped up
from like his past streams or tiktoks or stuff where suspect,
well an individual that might or might not match her
descriptions in the videos with him, which again she I
think was she went missing last year.

Speaker 1 (01:58:54):
She was fifteen.

Speaker 2 (01:58:55):
She went like a decomposed body, right, So it's it's
been who knows how long, he's twenty. She went missing
last year. So even if we just go back one year,
he's nineteen, she worked. Then if we go back to
the point where he would have been underage, where even
then you.

Speaker 1 (01:59:15):
Know how many guys that would probably be like not
a good look, David is not a good look. And
I always hated this, Like all the homies be like oh,
I was like, did you ever date a freshman when
you were just out of high school? And they're like yeah,
and I'm like you're gross and they're like no, it's
not that real big of a deal, not that big

(01:59:35):
of a jump, and I'm like, they just got out
of middle school.

Speaker 2 (01:59:39):
Bro, Look, there are some things that happen in small
towns in Texas. Yes, I don't think enough.

Speaker 1 (01:59:44):
Small towns, Like I hear it all the time. The
girl's like twenty some years old, the bar turning, and
the guy's like twelve years older me. You're like, yeah,
he used to pick me up at school and stuff.
So I was like, so you were twenty something. Yeah,
I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (01:59:56):
In small towns, they get celebrated and they still go
to a high school proms and homecoming dances. Because there
were multiple guys in my high school that were freshmen
or in college that were attending high school dances and
not to be with girls that were seniors about to graduate,

(02:00:17):
but to be with girls that were playing eighth grade
B team volleyball the year before oh god, very very
questionable behavior. Very yeah, we need to keep tabs on
this day because he's still on tour. I think he
I think he canceled the date of either tonight or
last night.

Speaker 1 (02:00:36):
But he's he's not.

Speaker 2 (02:00:37):
He hasn't canceled the whole tour yet, and he hasn't
had any charges filed against him specifically yet.

Speaker 1 (02:00:44):
But definitely a story to follow here. Me lgh LG.
It's too busy at racing. Some times he's busy googling
this David guy. Oh man, I'm gonna hit you with
some quick hitters some sleepers look out for in Fantasy
today a one Jacob Browning got two of the top

(02:01:08):
going like, I would start him over. He's gonna feed
Jamar Chase. I think he's gonna be a top ten
in Fantasy points. I would start looking at some backups.
Chase brown isn't doing it. Check out the backup there.
Check out the rookie out in Chicago he's got. He's
got one of those little I'm gonna mumble that name.
Oh fun, you know?

Speaker 2 (02:01:29):
And then wait, you mean the Chicago that's going up
against the vaunted Dallas Cowboys defense this week? Wait, are
you suggesting you should play Chicago Bears players if you
have them available.

Speaker 1 (02:01:42):
Yeah, yeah, that's solid advice, solid advice. We're still weighing
on if one Brockthaniel party will play against Arizona. He
would be a solid three hundred three three touchdown back.
McCaffrey as usual going up King Henry, people that look

(02:02:05):
to rebound AJ Brown. I see him getting fifteen targets
next game, so I would definitely start them, don't sit
there and bench them just yet.

Speaker 2 (02:02:18):
Well in the Rams edge rush, the Rams pass rush
potentially is a bit nullified with Jalen Hurt's ability to
scramble and yeah, get out of the pocket and avoids
the pressure.

Speaker 1 (02:02:29):
They're gonna they're definitely going to scheme up like specific plays.
They're gonna have ten specific plays for AJ Brown. I
guarantee you that it feels like a week where they
force it. Ye, whether it's working or not. We gotta
also gott keep him happy.

Speaker 2 (02:02:44):
I gotta keep him happy because he might be he
might be like the roommate reading a book on the
sideline in the second half if they're not careful and
give me some Danny dimes. As a top five quarterback,
once again. I just titan, I'm not against my team.
He's gonna put he's gonna rush for two touchdowns and
throw for two.

Speaker 1 (02:03:05):
Those are my predictions, all right, LG. Hit me, I
got one more and then we'll close it out here.
Uh the.

Speaker 2 (02:03:14):
I'm not I'm sure you're not that tuned into the
doings of high school football over the past few weeks.
So we had a kid up in the Metroplex for
he plays for Frisco Legacy Christian. He kicked a sixty
four yard or one of these private schools that pops
up one of one of the schools where you can

(02:03:35):
use a voucher at soon. He kicked a sixty four
yard field goal in a high school game. So we've
talked about this for even going back to last year,
where the final horizon of.

Speaker 1 (02:03:50):
You know, football player.

Speaker 2 (02:03:53):
Progression, athletic progression, like we've seen it at every you
see defensive lineman running four fives for four you know,
stupid athletes. But the kicking game has still always been
oh he's a kicker. Yeah, It's like we've seen now
Aubrey pushing it. The kid in preseason hitting the seventy yarder.
I think we're going to see a seventy yarder in

(02:04:16):
the pros in a game in the regular season, at.

Speaker 1 (02:04:19):
Some point, you're try a seventy yard I believe the
record gets broken this year, but the record sixty six. Yeah,
but I see someone because if you if you miss
the seventy yard or you're basically given that guy, Oh,
it would only ever be you're in a field range
right back.

Speaker 2 (02:04:35):
It would only ever be at the end of the
half or again, no question, I don't think you're going
to see those situation. I don't think you're gonna see
Shoddy Send, you know, Brandon Aubrey out there in the
first quarter of a game.

Speaker 1 (02:04:47):
Yeah, I don't that's I don't think you'll see that.
But yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:04:50):
The something I didn't know the state record for field
goals in the state of Texas. A dude kicked a
sixty seven yard field goal back in the It was like, er,
I think it was late nineties, must be windy that day. Well,
I don't know of the weather conditions, but I do

(02:05:11):
know he was using a kicking tea. Oh, you were
still allowed to use the kicking tea in high school
when he set the record at sixty seven So this
kid jack Edragus, who kicked a sixty four yarder. Technically
that is the longest field goal in Texas high school
football history. That was kicked like a field goal should

(02:05:34):
be kicked. Wow, So the kids kicked. It's set the
state record as far as it should be concerned.

Speaker 3 (02:05:39):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:05:40):
And then we'll end with this LGD, have that clip
ready because we have the the family announcement, the news
of Cardi b and Stefan Diggs now expecting their it's
like their second child.

Speaker 1 (02:05:58):
In twenty months. So like do the math the Irish
Irish twins. Indeed indeed it Uh. Again, congratulations to the
to the happy couple. Whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:06:11):
But this video granted, also we saw stuff on Diggs
handing out the pink candy to chicks on the boat
in the off season. It's amazing to me that he's
New England Patriots. So this video was making the rounds.
I don't think it needs much introduction.

Speaker 1 (02:06:29):
Finish this phrase, leave it what name something specific like
some specific people. Is this real? Oh my god, finish

(02:06:53):
this phrase, leave it what.

Speaker 2 (02:06:56):
No hesitation and he's a man of his words. So
congratulations to the happy family. We will leave you with
that enjoy the football this weekend game. That's correct. Again,
we're trying not to. We're trying to stay off the
FCC's radar. So if you could find more creative ways
to describe sexual acts. Uh, how can the people get

(02:07:19):
ahold of you? How can they find hit me on Instagram?
And the Captain's Chair at two to one zero? And
then I forgot my Twitter. I keep waiting for you.
I keep waiting for you to continue to look up
videos and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (02:07:35):
LG. When's the next stream?

Speaker 4 (02:07:37):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:07:38):
Tomorrow night? Oh very nice. We are back in LG's
house tomorrow night. LG. If you are playing outro music,
I hear absolutely nothing.

Speaker 2 (02:07:50):
Hey Yankees one, Well, what was the over under on
the score on the raidar the Dolphins the Bills?

Speaker 1 (02:08:00):
What did we say? Six and a half? Yeah, Bill's
covered Bill's cover, But what was the total score? I
didn't see that.

Speaker 2 (02:08:07):
You can find me on x at the Biggest Puma
on Instagram, Biggest Dot Puma roommate.

Speaker 1 (02:08:13):
Tell the people to light the beam. Light the beam.

Speaker 2 (02:08:16):
We will be back for an episode of Who Won
the Internet? Okay, we'll talk tomorrow. Remember Tuesday Thursday shows
during football.

Speaker 1 (02:08:23):
Be good peace, anybody want a camera?

Speaker 3 (02:08:29):
Kids?

Speaker 1 (02:08:30):
What do we say about drugs? Yeah,
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