Jerry Calls Micah's Bluff

In this impromptu Thursday night edition of The Sports Cave with Biggest Puma, host Sam Freas and the Crew return, still a little under the weather, to dive into the Micah Parson's trade. From the moment the run sheet was torn up, this episode became a real-time reaction to one of the most controversial moves in recent Cowboys history. Sam and Cap dissect every angle of the trade—from Jerry Jones’ press conference spin to the implications for the Cowboys’ future. Is this Jerry’s attempt at a “Herschel Walker 2.0” moment? Or did he just gamble away a generational talent? Subscribe now, leave a review, and share the show with your crew.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Oh was that you or me? Clearing your throat with
Oh see, you're not supposed to be You're the one
that's supposed to be healthier. Now light the beam and
clear your throat. We are back for a Thursday night
edition now of one of these programs that we call
the Sports Cave with Biggest Puma. I am your host,

(00:32):
Sam Freeze, broadcasting once again live here on the north
side of San Antonio, where we might still be slightly
under the weather, but we have returned from the il
to at least to see how long we can go tonight.
We'll see how long the We'll see how long the
episode is tonight.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Local cords will hold up.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, it's going to be it's going to be a
real test. If you can't already tell I feel like
I am not sound being one hundred percent, I don't.
I don't feel bad that these are the most like.
This is when it's most frustrating. When I don't actually
feel sick, but I sound awful. Yeah like, and I'm

(01:13):
all nasily running note like, I feel like I could mind.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Straight vocal cords. I was just a little too much
yelling Yeah, well.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
A bunch of a bunch of Cowboy fans would probably
join in with you there, because I think, yeah, I
think we're gonna have a bunch of sore vocal cores
vocal cords from Cowboys fans. Of course, the run sheet
got torn up today. We're gonna talk about Micah right
off the top, but before we get into anything else,

(01:43):
we are since we're doing this on Thursday now instead
of yesterday, one week exactly, one week week, seven days,
seven days, next Thursday, NFL Opening Night, which if you
looked at the line this morning versus right now, I
think it's already moved a point and a half. That's correct. Yeah, No,

(02:06):
in Dallas's favor because they got Kenny Clark to stop
the run. As Jerry said in his press conference about
half an hour an hour ago.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Now against the Eagles, you don't really have to worry
that they are a run first team.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah. No, it's gonna be great, cav It's gonna be
it's gonna be so much fun. Okay, your level of
trolling is only going to be tolerated for so long
because it is uh that there are a lot of
different ways to think about the mica trade. Uh. It
also threw off my national day that I had. I

(02:42):
had a whole skit, I had a whole bit planned
for you. Yesterday was National Peach Day. I had peach
cobbler for us. All we were gonna enjoy it. It's one
of my favorite dessert.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
I can't even peach for hours now.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
I'm kind of out on peaches too, so to speak.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
No face off reference. Oh that's I can eat a peach.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
For I'm highly medicated right now. You're gonna have to
cut me slack tonight. No momental arguments of any kind
because I am. I am still under the weather. No,
it is ironically enough. Now today is National red Wine Day,
so again for all of those.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
As much of an alcoholic as I might be, I don't.
I don't down't partic in the wine.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Red wine is that's like exclusively wedding.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
That's steak. I worked at an Italian restaurant, so that's steak.
Some maybe some heavier fish or like something like that.
But when the Captain was a ut, he was a youth,
he went to a college dorm room where they made
homemade spectacular or made white wine. At eleven eleven am

(03:53):
we were picking something up that may or may not
have been marl warm may or THC, completely legal, and
there was two gallons of this homemade white wine. And
then there's a beer bomb, and me and my buddy
were a little crazy and no way we both beer bongbed.

(04:16):
A gallon of the homemade white wine killed me forever.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, I could imagine life. Yeah, I would imagine not
wanting to drink any wine the rest of your life.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I'm good.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
When I met the roommate, she had just gotten back.
She lived in Italy, uh for had a white girl summer,
lived in Italy for UH school, and all she drank
for like the next six months was red like cabs,
like cabernet. Yeah, And I quickly learned one red wine

(04:49):
does not treat me the same way as tequila or beer.
It's a very not only is it a different hangover,
but it's a different drunk to begin with, Like, it's
a very different personality on red wine. And then the
secondly I realized quickly I can't keep up with her
on red wine.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
So that was a yeah, yeah, it always kills me.
Is those people who go out to eat before they like,
they go out to the nice restaurant, then try to
come out to the club afterwards and they're they're pounding
shots on red wine and they get so sloppy and
I'm like, dude, you're mixing like all of it. You know.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
No, that is a recipe for utter disaster.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Uh, some good news before we get started, follow up
from what we talked about Monday, YouTube and Fox have
reached an agreement, So fears of blackouts of college football,
we've got actually had college football on the TV beforehand.
The world is right. We're not gonna have to worry

(05:51):
about the Fox broadcast of Texas Ohio State getting blacked
out come Saturday morning, even though it is going to
be at eleven am. Unfortunately, if we make it to
the main Segge, if our voices hold up, we are
going to finish our fantasy football positional rankings talk as
we get ready for our draft next Tuesday night. And

(06:14):
if you miss the show Monday, we are full. Yeah,
we are locked in twelve teams. Shout out to the
ten ten others that joined and Zeb my GM running
our team. I bet he's I guarantee you Zeb wouldn't
trade Micah for a thirty year old defensive tackle.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
And how are we doing in the long two?

Speaker 2 (06:36):
First in the twenties?

Speaker 1 (06:37):
How are we doing over there? Buddy?

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Are we having tech problems on Lawrence's side?

Speaker 3 (06:42):
We're testing some stuff out.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Oh okay, tell me what's happening. I can't see it.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
The camera comes home.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
It's called switching, switching the cameras switching when you talk.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
But you got to gotta put it on the guy
who's talking.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
I'm not switching the cameras. The cameras are switching.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Oh, they're doing it.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
You have a I'm not switching over.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
I wonder the cameras are switching. Yes, is overtaking the
testing out a new future? And it doesn't seem to.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Be working at all. Well, it's like every time he talks,
it's on me and I'm.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Like, yeah, I'm tweaking the settings. Give me a second here.
It's the first time I've used it. They just released
this firmware update the other day.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Well, and what better time to roll it out as
we're already under the weather. This sign, Yeah, this whole
episode is gonna be still sounds good and looks good.
It's all gonna be a trial. This good.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Then that's all we need.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Maybe I thought you wanted more FaceTime anyway, man, Yeah,
there you go.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
That's perfectly uh, perfectly fine with this side of the table.
If we could, we could we just if you need
to least one of these cameras out, LG, go ahead,
we can just run a one camera set up. I've
done it the whole time. Yeah, in the New York
Comedy Club there. Since we have a good connection with LG,
I saw boys, we're getting closer and closer to five hundred.

(08:02):
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Speaker 1 (08:40):
We'll see about that email.

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Something about you got to verify this that, and that.
I just saw it about an hour ago. But we'll see.
But once we hit five hundred, we don't got to
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Speaker 2 (09:03):
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The return on investment for freedom the last paycheck, the
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Speaker 1 (09:16):
I'm not going to tell you what. Literally, you look
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Child support, gas in your car? Who needs any of those?

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We need microphones much more important. But you can check
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Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, as soon as we we want to get to
that five hundred so we can open up the super
chats for football season, because we do plan on having
some Cowboys watch along parties as well as some postgame
shows along the way.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
And we want to interact with a little bit more
with our people listening.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Live exactly exactly, and we need to apparently we're probably
gonna need to do it quick before everyone loses interest
in the Cowboys when they start three and seven. And now.
So I've got a whole run sheet from what would
have been last night's show. I mean we could have

(10:08):
We could have done some Saint Louis Cardinals poor attendance talk,
could have done some college football future odds talk. Could uh,
how about another edition of the X Files. I found
that Rampage Jackson, the original. I sent it to LG.
We've got that in the cam. We've got a Spurs
player that I fought the whole country of whoever they

(10:29):
were playing. I can't remember who it was because I'm sick.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Oh, buddy, man, we had high school football talk.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
We could have done oh yeah, like the Spurs named
a new play by play radio guy. Oh Man, There's
so much that we could be talking about right now,
but instead because of an idiot owner who makes himself
the idiot general manager and gives golden quotes like there's
no one that could effan do a better job of

(10:58):
GM and the ship out of this team than I can,
because that guy runs our favorite football team. Speaking on
my behalf and all of y'all's behalf out there except
for the three Niners fans that Cap has and the
Eagles fans that LG has on his side.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
I'm sure there's some Packer fans out there.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
There's a bunch of Packer fans here actually, yeah, those
Packer fans everywhere.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
I'm getting mixed. I'm getting mixed reactions with the whole
Micah trade, Like we gave up way too much money to.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
First from Packers, fans from Packers, Well, that's that's idiotic. Like,
first of all, if you're if you're concerned, if the
question is, why did we paying forty seven million dollars
a year when instead of forty three or forty four, Okay,
there's some argument to be made there, but if you're
complaining about what you gave up to get him, that's stupid. Yeah,

(11:51):
that's idiot.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Late late, Like I mean, obviously, at best.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
They'll be at best, they'll be twenty Yeah, at best
or at best, but they're still no, that's what I'm saying.
At best like best bet Like Jordan Love snaps a
femur and then the backup snaps his other femur and
then they're playing Will Greer from the Cowboys practice squad
at quarterback or god forbid all that.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
In the NFC Championship at quarterback.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
You know, yeah, exactly now, I at best, they're not
They're not going to be anywhere close to the position
in which they took Micah in the first place.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, which was like Micah, Like I always like whenever
I talk fantasy, I'm like, you want to get that
player that will decide you again, like a game or two.
Those are like crucial players. And in real life it's
kind of the same thing because Micah, well could decide
a game or two sometimes with a stripsack funk board

(12:52):
do a good but like with like goes off for
three sacks, totally dominates the you know, changes their offensive
like playbook because they can't stop them, so they have
to run schemes on them all game. So I don't
think they're getting anything. I think they're getting to twenty five,
pick twenty five, twenty four, and like get two of

(13:12):
those picks.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
I'm like, and Kenny Clark, Kenny Clark, they get a lot.
That's not a lot, Like.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Why not tear dreams of the Jets? You might potentially
get a number one.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
So I'm going to I obviously am going to talk
a lot from a Cowboys perspective on this, but I'm
really curious from you know, Niners fan perspective. You obviously
viewed the Packers as more of a postseason threat than
Dallas was to begin with, absolutely right, one thousand percent,

(13:46):
as I don't really pose.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
I mean, the Niners got Packers and Cowboys numbers, So
I'm like.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. How much like from a
Niners fan or from a perspective of another NFC contender,
how much does this change your perspective on the Packers
as a team this season contending for a Super Bowl?
Because you talk about Micah being a guy that can
win multiple games, not.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
What was my What was the over under that we had?
Because I know the Packers, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Really have No you were down on him.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
I was down on them. I think I went you went.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Under what they're Yeah, they're over under was nine and
a half and you went under.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
And I think they might win ten eleven games now,
you know, yeah, because I think I think Mike is
gonna side two games because a everybody's gonna have to
scheme against him. He's that guy. Everybody schemes against Nick Bosa,
everybody schemes against t J. Watt, everybody schemes against Miles Garrett.
You know, he's that guy. You know. So you literally

(14:49):
like the whole AFC North just throughout their playbooks in offense,
and it's like, now we have to scheme for Micah Parsons.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, I you know, there's so many places.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Way Michael Parsons.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Michael, So, I was listening to the listening to the
press conference because of course Jerry immediately starts a press
conference scheduled for six thirty that starts closer to seven
tonight to do you know, give instant analysis.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Oh, he's gonna get ripped tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Man, Oh, it's I mean, it's already, it's already starting.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
There's salivating right now.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Well, let's start with that. The the Jerry appearances yesterday
on Michael Irvin's podcast and Stephen A's podcast. Clearly now
you're seeing were pr spin because it was already he
Jerry knew they were trading him today. They had already

(15:46):
given him, uh you know, had already been negotiating with
the Packers and multiple teams, according to Jerry, for multiple
days this week. They had singled in on the Packers,
and the Packers had started contract negotiations with Micah, so
it Jerry knew at that point he was getting out

(16:06):
in front of what was going to be and announced trade.
But by the end of the week, I.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Just don't know how you trade them in conference, you know,
with the possibility if your team ever gets good, you're
going to see Micah.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Well, okay, ironically enough they see each other this year. Yeah.
How about week four, late September, Green Bay travels to
Dallas to play the Cowboys. How about the fact that
the Packers were the team that single handedly probably convinced
Jerry that this current group wasn't good enough to win

(16:42):
it all when they got their pants pulled down forty burger,
fifty burger, whatever it ended up. Yeah, but it was
like forty straight points to start the game, or however
bad it was. Yeah, yeah, and you saw that in
the documentary. Also, speaking of the documentary, what was the
biggest point of contention between Jimmy and Jerry, specifically the

(17:04):
one specific fracture that they both continued to reference and
both had a different retelling of the truth herschel Walker.
Jerry claims it was his idea, and he went to
Jimmy with the idea to trade Herschel. Jimmy claims it
was his idea, and he told Jerry, look, if we
trade Herschel, I can get the picks I need to

(17:26):
build a team. Both of them think it was their
idea that was a big part of their a big
fracture point in their relationship tonight Jimmy tonight, in Jerry's
press conference an hour ago, he literally verbatim says this
could be a situation like Herschel Walker, where Micah's greatest

(17:48):
contribution to the franchise is what we got in return
instead of what he did as a player.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Jerry wait for next year's draft.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Jerry literally rewatched the documentary last week and said, oh,
I've got a chance here. Everyone wonders was it Jimmy's
or was it my idea to trade Herschel. Well, guess what,
right now, if I trade Micah, everyone will know it
was my idea. So when we went a Super Bowl
in three years like we did after I traded Herschel,

(18:19):
then I'll get all the credit for it. Again, none
of this makes No other team does business like this.
It's all because one meglomaniac owns and runs the team.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Who do you think, like, who's hurt more like, I mean,
who hurt Dallas Moore, the Cowboys or the Mavericks. So
this is almost And I know quarterback is the main position,
but defensive ends got to be top three, you know
what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean it's definitely I would

(18:53):
I would say it's probably the second in terms of importance,
I would probably say second or left tackle. Yeah, And
it's I think those are the three. Those those are
the three that you have to seal in. And they
just traded away one of the top defenders who like
he had more pressures on the quarterback and he might

(19:16):
not have got all the sacks and all that stuff,
but he disrupted the quarterback more than any other player
in the past three years.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
How about the fact this is a PFF stat when
Micah since Micah was drafted by the Cowboys, when he
is healthy and on the field playing in a game,
they're the number one defense in the league over that
over the four seasons. When he's not on the field,
they're second to last.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
In the EPA.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, so you ask which one. The thing about Dallas
the Cowboys are all of Dallas like that is everyone.
Football is just so much more dominant than basketball, even
the mass in terms of consciousness.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Even when the Mas went to the finals last year, it's.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
One fiftieth of what it would be like if the
Cowboys were in a Super Bowl. I mean it's one
hundredth one thousandth I'm probably still under selling it.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
The the maps of one and gone to the tournament
and in the past thirty years.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
The difference, the difference, I mean one football is just
more important. Yeah, but the difference in situation between the
way Luca was traded, like the Micah one. You know,
Micah requested a trade.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, that is true, that is that is.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Like that never happened with Lucas and we all thought,
which I still think at the time it was posturing.
It was contract negotiation. It was this is what players
of my ILK do when we get to an impass
in the in the negotiations, I demand a trade, even
if I don't actually want to trade, but potentially that

(20:55):
gets some movement in the deal.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah. So yeah, so I think the Luca trades like
that way, it's different Luke and trade hit harder.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
But how about you know, uh, you know, trading away
a generational twenty six.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Year old that is done first contract.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah. Yeah. And the irony two. There are two players
that have gotten ten or more sacks every season in
their first four seasons in the league. It's Micah and
ironically it's Reggie White.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
And even Reggie did it at an older age. He
wasn't you know. Micah was twenty two when he entered
the league's twenty six.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Now, Reggie went all four years in college.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah, and he played what was at CFL before as
well or USFL, whichever league he had started in Dallas.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Man, like, are you gonna come over to the dark side?
What's up? Man? No?

Speaker 2 (21:46):
I mean, it's just like anything else like I have, Uh,
you know, there's no The Cowboys to me have always
been this like this is not yeah, thirty thirty years
of your life and it's and it's always been at
the whim of one individual. It's it's not like there's
a it's not like there have been. You know, think

(22:07):
about your in your lifetime with the forty nine ers,
how many like you love John Lynch now right, who
was the GM before that.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Our front office was Jed York for a while, right,
And who was the GM before that? Like you've had
the GM. We were in shambles right after we got
rid of Garcia. Uh, and then it was like we
got Alex Smith, and then we had got an offensive
coordinator every other every year after that. He went through

(22:35):
five of offensive quarterback offensive coordinators in five years. And
that's why Alex could never like before John Harbaugh got there.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
And guess and guess what happened to the general manager
when the coaching turnover didn't lead to success on the field.
He got fired. He got right out of town.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Samurai Mike where he's like Vernon Davis.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Pull what was this?

Speaker 1 (23:01):
What was was like I'm pulled pants down?

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah. But my point is when every other, every other organization,
when when things do not go well on the field,
there is a new brain trust that's brought in to
fix it. So, as a Cowboy fan my entire life,

(23:25):
having seen no indication that I should have any faith
in the brain trust, that is not going to go
anywhere until speed Under.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
When we thought Parcells was going to be the strong
enough just as Jimmy was to yeah and stand up.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
That's the closest, that's the closest we've gotten and that
as close or as separate, as as different as Parcels
was than Jason Garrett, it kind of felt like Mike
McCarthy was that middle ground between those two, you.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Know, and then Jerry force t O on Mike on Bill. Yeah,
and that was like kind of like, you're not this
isn't a Jimmy thing. I totally feel that was a move.
Of course t O wanted to be, you know, he
loved the drama, he loved the soap operas. My quarterback,
that's my quarterback, man. But it definitely was a Jerry

(24:24):
move to be like, you aren't Jimmy, you know, and
he kind of like stuck his finger and part.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Oh for sure, And who knows what he told Parcels
to get him to sign the deal to begin with,
to come and fix the mess that Parcels specifically was
hired without Jerry saying as much, to come in and
fix the mess that Jerry had built that had gotten
so bad. And then they got lucky with Romo and
an undrafted free quarterback a miracle. It goes a long

(24:54):
way to also fixing that this that that's why when
you asked me, is it ever, you know, is there
ever any consideration that like an event like trading Micah
could lead to a change in fandom. No, because this
is just this is just what it is to be
a Cowboys fan, and it's I will, okay, time out.

(25:15):
I will say this. Something is clearly different with this
situation than any of the ones in the past, because
Micah is far from the first Cowboy to play contractual
hardball with Jerry. He's the first one I can think
of that actually got traded. Though.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
You know why I got a theory on this is
because if he sat out, he could have sat there
and paid all that fine money with his podcast money.
You know how much. You know how many more listens
he would have gotten his podcasts if he sat out
all year, Like.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
How many more sponsors that would have wanted to advertise
because the millions.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Millions and millions of more people would have been listening
to Michaeh Parsons because they're like, maybe he's maybe he'll
come back and rescue us. Yeah, and he's not replaced
When they lost the first two games and then they
finally made the deal.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Oh yeah, can you imagine what the listenership would have
been like? If Micah had set out after Week one
when the Eagles smashed the Cowboys, Micah's listener like the
podcast would have.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Had as much as Kelsey's and Teas the Swifties, the
Swifty Podcast. I don't call it the Kelsey podcast anymore.
That's a Swifty podcast.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, No, that's Travis Swift at this point. The but
something is clearly something was clearly different, and it could
be you know, Micah pulling Jerry's pants down metaphorically by
acting like a child on the sideline, laying on the
trainer's table. Uh. It could be that the strong that

(26:51):
Micah laid on the table, you know, claims that you know,
Jerry's version of what happened back in art when Jerry
claims Micah came to him to have the negotiation, they
ironed it out, and then Micah has then switched to no, no, no,
You've got to talk to my agent. Which if if

(27:13):
that's the turn of events, Micah one shouldn't have initiated
contract negotiations without the agent. Yeah, but also Jerry should
have still said this is a generational talent. I'm not
going to hold this against him. He should like, like
we've talked about before, like Jerry, there should always be
negotiating with the agent to begin with, not the player.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
I don't think Jerry made him sign an NDA on
the contract negotiation finale that Himen did like him and
he did or whatever. So I'm hoping that he breaks
that news to be like Jerry offered me this and
then the green Bay offered me this.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah. I am curious to see how much exactly like
how far Micah peels the curtain back and how much
she does talk about specifically Jerry now, because I could
also see Micah saying that was in my past, I
don't want to talk about it. I'm in green Bay now.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
You see that from Micah Parson.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, I think now that they're green Bay is paying
him forty seven million dollars exactly in green Bay's the
kind of organization I kinda, I kind of do.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
I think they think they got that hold on him,
like he just seems like seems like a wild card
to me.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Well for sure, but they did just make him the
paid yeah, and and.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Get like a notch above teav No, no, no, he's
went up to a different bracket.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, he's uh, he's making four and a half million more.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Basically, he's making more money than half the quarterbacks in
the league. See.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
And that's the other thing. So if even if Dallas
had signed Micah to a deal that would have made
him the highest paid defensive player or highest paid non
quarterback but wasn't forty seven million, but was closer to
the rest of the pack there TJ and Miles, Yeah,

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Dallas would have then had the highest paid quarterback and
the highest paid non quarterback on the roster. So for
those for the for the section of Cowboys fans that
want to point to that as a reason, like, look,
I'm speaking as that section of Cowboys fans that say
trading Micah is not the end of the world because

(29:30):
locking up that much cap space between him and Dak
would have handcuffed us for half a decade. Okay, so
let's follow Let's hold on, We're going to get to
that too, because that's funny. Let's follow that line of thought.
So if you're telling me you knew, at what point
did you know Micah was going to demand the highest

(29:52):
non quarterback contract in the league year three exactly? So
if you already knew that after year.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Three, sign them either before he gets a year five.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Again, those are your options. Either sign him then or
trade him then, or trade him this past March if
you trade him on draft day or draft back when.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
You got three first rounds from a team exactly.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
And you know, and also, uh, what do what do
teams have more of in April than they do the
fucking week before the season starts. That's cap space, cap,
they have cap space. So teams that might have been
interested in giving Micah a contract like this would have
had the room to do that, be like.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Well, to give you three million more than TJ exactly.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Like again, it's I had it right here. The Cowboys
are always half a year at minimum behind on their
business because that's doing now they should have done in
a four hour soap. Oops, exactly right, not just twenty
four hour, but three sixty five sixty It's exactly right.
And again so when you ask me, is this Jerry

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has never been enough for me to change fandom. But
that also is why it's full nihilism now, because this
is just what this is there operating, Uh, come out
and support of Hesbalon. I don't know, like it's gotta.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Be more than ideas.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yeah, yeah, well look we we love the Palestinians West
not so much. But no, I mean there's no there.
There really is no thank you, there is no line
that you could get me to change because that's just
I mean, it is what it is. I don't know

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what to tell you. Yeah, it's not done, it's not
going anywhere. But I that's where I'm still I'm still
always of the belief when you when you're a team
in a situation like this, even going back to the
Luca trade, like, yes, are there warts? Do you do

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you not like Luca's effort on defense? Do you not
like him yelling at the ress? Do you not like
Micah's podcast on the side? Do you not like the
fact that he hasn't really taken a leadership role outside
of saying he wants to be a leader like zero,
If you're bumping your gums talking about how you're running shit,
you're not really running shit like it? What have we
seen to actually show.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
He's talking all that locker room talk on air.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Right, and he's doing it. Yeah, and specifically, as soon
as Jerry says we need guys to be leaders, well,
then Micah vocally starts talking about you know, like it's
like the warts are there on both of those players.
But if you're going to tell me that's your justification
for trading a guy that has all of those warts
but is also a thirty point triple double every time

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he walks into the gym, there's a fifty to fifty
chance that happens. The other guy is a guaranteed ten
sacks his first four years in the league. Yeah, when
you're trading true generation.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
From the bottom half to the town.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yes, Like when you're trading true all pro top three
at their respective position kind of guys. You don't handle
your business the way those two teams did. That's the frustration.
So if you're in that sect of fandom that says, no,
I'm okay with the idea of trading Micah, I I
still tend to fall on the I want the All

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Pro guy, because what what are the Cowboys now going
to be chasing with those two extra first round draft picks.
They have someone that might be as productive as Micah, Like,
they're still you're always why I never fall on the
idea of giving up talent like that with the hopes
that you get in the maps got lucky, they won

(33:46):
the lot they got lucky. Quote won the lottery got
Cooper flag. The Cowboys won't get that, you know, random
stouts of luck. I just don't. You don't trade away
talent like that.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
I'm still in the theory, and if.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
You do, you do it in a better way to
get more back.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
I'm in the theory because Jerry, Jerry is a gambler.
He's a gambler. He is tanking, so he's expecting the Cowboy.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Don't even start this. Are you about to throw out art?

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Conspiracy?

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Very very very low conspiracy. This team is still a
six win team, is it? Yeah, there's still I mean,
Micah's worth a win and a half in Vegas. I mean,
I would love to see if you got if you
took that Cowboys under like I did, you're feeling at
least they're feeling a little better about that.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
You gotta think also about the like is the group
happy about this trade or are they gonna be mad
about this trade? And that's gonna cause I think people
not to go on. They're gonna be thinking about their
next contract and staid their next uh said, They're like,
I'm gonna run through a wall for you this play.

(34:57):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
I don't think Mica has that kind of sway. I
think guys like Trayvon Diggs might do that. I don't think.
I don't think Micah has nearly the team swell of
support as specific individuals on the team. I mean the
reports on Micah had his little crew, which again is
something when McCarthy was coached, McCarthy tried to get Micah

(35:19):
to break out of that click to be more of
a team leader. They moved his locker from across the
locker room over right next to Dak to try to
basically push him to do that, push Dak to show him, yeah, exactly,
be more of a team leader instead of this little
you know, like the Trayvon Diggs in him. We even

(35:42):
saw it in training camp, the press conference they did
together after Jerry spoke about both of them.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
But now you've got Trayvon Diggs who like, what was
his deal four years?

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, and his he didn't break the bank, Trayvon got paid,
Trayvon took a really fair market contract, and also they
can get out of it after this year.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
So therefore I'm just thinking, like, who's gonna have that
mentality of Barry Sanders or Troy Aikman to be like
you are not actively trying to win. I want to win,
and there's gotta be players on that team who have
that same mentality of we have to win at all costs.
And now you just give up your best piece literally

(36:27):
on defense, the best piece on the team of CD
might be the next one right up below it. But
like someone's gotta throw it to him and that ain't
the best piece.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
No, that's where s the you know the argument again
going back to this time last year when CD's holding out,
Like you said, you knew after year three Micah was
going to be demanding the kind of contract he was,
you had a decision to make because you delayed the
CD decision. Again, you can trickle all of these back

(37:02):
and deals that should have going back to pretty much
pretty much exactly.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
He saw the writing on the wall. He's like, if
I don't get my bag now the way the RBS
are getting paid, sure, I'm not going to get a bag.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
And and uh, which is interesting again to me, Zeke
got the bag but Micah didn't. You could argue that
is insanity that a running back got the back. No
other team would have done that. Again, like the the
the the mantra for today is there is only one

(37:35):
NFL team that would conduct their business like we saw today,
and that's the team that conducted their business like we.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Saw took a page out of and being like, look,
I won Rookie of the Year, I led the NFL
and rushing two years in a row. I need to
get paid, you know.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
And and he also and Zeke also saw Dax deal
coming up and saw the line potentially where if he
didn't get his money that summer next year, they were
gonna say, well, we'll franchise tag you, but we won't
give you.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, he was seeing whatever all the other leagues were
doing with running backs. It's like, we're gonna franchise you
until you're twenty seven and then yeah, you're not as
good as you used to be.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
But then that would also have to be based on
the assumption that the Cowboys would do business like every
other team in the league. They did turn around and
learn their lesson into it with Tony Pollard right after
they learned the hard way with Zeke. But there there's
at least one example where the Cowboys kind of learned
from their mistakes. You mentioned I had George Pickens and

(38:38):
some of the because now the Cowboys spin. Also, it
was reported Jerry apparently told Micah either play on the
fifth year option, which is what he because this is
this is different from a franchise tag situation, where both
the owner, the team, and the player high to sign

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a franchise tag contract. This was Micah's fifth year option,
so Micah had no choice. He was under contract, which
he also knew, which is why he pushed the leverage
to try to get it down down. Uh no, it's
uh somewhere what because he's argued he was also fighting
with the NFL trying to be trying to exactly try

(39:23):
to get a linebacker instead of an edge because linebacker
actually was getting more.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
No, I thought the edge was getting.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
No, surprisingly because it was based off last year's salaries before.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
The Fred Warner got the bag last year, right.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
And before all these edge before Miles Garrett's and t J.
Watts deal kicked in.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Because so, but like I said, he's probably making that
much money on his podcast right right, right, So what
he was saying is if I got to sit, I'm
gonna make the money. Like I'm not going to be broke,
you know.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
But he also was leveraging. He was threatening to sit
to leverage to get forty seven million, or at least
you know somewhere in the men for.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
I think he was trying to get forty five and
then the Green Bay just said, hey, we'll break the band. Hey, yeah,
I'll be curious seven this is a this is you
can't say no to this offer.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
I'll be curious to see what more we learn about
how that whole negotiate, like when actually it did start
and how it came to a conclusion. But they the
reporting now is that Jerry told Micah play on the
fifth year option or we're trading.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
You stepping on his foot and.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Right again, Like, if you're Jerry, you you knew that
was your position, If that was your position this week.
You knew that was your position on draft day, in April,
or in March, when the calendar year start, when the
season started, when the new year rolled over in the

(40:58):
league office, like all of the all of the leverage
that Jerry open just openly gives up in negotiations to
maintain that level of soap opera throughout the summer. It's
so infuriating. It's so infuriating, especially when you get solid

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reporting like that.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah, there's also un reading in the Chad like but
also Greg brought up a good thing. Maybe it's the years,
Like Jerry wanted five, but Michael wanted a four year
contract so he can get that another big contract, you know,
when the cap rises and that all the money rises,
because like the NFLPA talk what every two to three

(41:41):
years about the cap or something, and I think it's
coming up this year.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah. I still think if Jerry Jerry is shown, if
nothing else over the years, when Jerry wants to keep
a player, that player stays a cowboy. So if it
was a difference of four or five years, if it
was a difference of forty four or forty three and

(42:08):
forty five. So that's why I say this one, just this,
something about this is different because all of those hurdles
in the past have been successfully.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
I got a theory he was jealous of his podcast.
Jerry goes on radio every every five days a week.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
I'm not so sure that's a crazy conspiracy. I'm not
he was jealous.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
He was jealous of the podcast, and I did success
that Micah was getting with it and he was gonna
be the next football So if it wasn't like well,
if Shannon Sharp didn't have all that you know drama,
I don't know how the Shannon sharpot Josenko one's going.
But Micah was like right up there, and then the
Kelsey's got what one hundred million yeah for their podcast

(42:56):
the podcast Michael was going to be right up there,
probably getting you know, eighty million dollar contract.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Too, and I was trying to find my notes. I
remember when we were when we first started talking about
the uh uh Jerry and Micah negotiating process, and I
said something along the lines of, you know, Jerry has

(43:24):
potentially met his match, and you know you knew me
when we were talking about how Micah Micah's understanding of
the new media and Jerry's understanding of old media. On
Jerry's the master of manipulating old media, Micah's showing he's
pretty good at manipulating new media, and those two you.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Can pressure old media to create a narrative in the.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Bouan present, which we saw Jerry doing yesterday with Michael
Irvin's podcast with Stephen A. Smith's podcast. That's yeah, and
that's why I think you're not crazy.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
But they're still on old, old media, and so their
podcasts are still.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Heads doing new media, new media.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
But like when you got the new head going like
knows this field way more than anybody else.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
I think that falls firmly under the headline of something
is different here, Like that's something that's different here.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
I absolutely think it's.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Not conspiracy to say that Jerry. At the end of
the day, Jerry wants publicity for the organization he owns
over everything else. So does Micah's podcast do that? Yes,
it achieves that for Jerry. But I also think the threat,

(44:45):
the threatening angle of that of Jerry not being able
to control that potentially necessarily, I think that that's not
a conspiracy. That's a conspiracy. I would buy stockings. So Jerry,
it's not that Jerry didn't he likes you to do
the podcast. He doesn't like it when you're Charles Haley
light doing the podcast when who knows what you might

(45:07):
say next? Yeah, nothing wrong here.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Yeah we should never have traded him. But you know
when he's out there masturbating in front of Romo Romanowski.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Yeah, that's uh, that's when Romanowski knew man he really
doesn't want to be here.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
This guy is really here, but not like what was
the point? So usually the most famous guy on a
football team is the quarterback. Uh huh. So these past
couple of years where y'all got franchise quarterback, the undrafted
Tony Romo, Oh my god, Jerry found this guy out
of nowhere. Then Dak Prescott, which.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Was actually Sean Payton that found him because they went
to the same college, but exactly. But who was on
Bill Parcell's staff but Jerry, But it was Jerry. Jerry
was like, here's a miracle, we found him. I found it.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Then Dak Prescott in what third round?

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Fourth round?

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Four?

Speaker 2 (46:00):
But he was third on the depth chart behind Romo
and current Saints head coach Kellen Moore, who both got
hurt in training camp, which elevated.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
And then it made him seem more like a genius. Yep.
And now Micah we all knew coming out of Penn
State he was going to be a problem.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
You know what, Yeah he did.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
I will think he was going to be a T. J.
Watt or if you like number two pick.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
That's what I was about. Say, if you were redrafting,
Micah would be a top two pick in that draft.
I think the fact that he slid to twelve I
took further your point the fact that he slid to
twelve and the Cowboys were smart enough to trade with
the Eagles. They traded back and took him with that
next pick. Like that's again, Jerry would say, I I
knew Micah was going to be a star, and we

(46:45):
were able to get an extra pick, and Micah that he.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Wanted to continue that look what I did type mentality,
you know. And the only person that did like that,
ever bucked that system with them was Jimmy Johnson because
he's like, Micah's like, I'm doing this and I'm doing
my podcast and I'm creating my own narrative in my
own fan base, and it's not about the star. It's
about me.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Yes, yeah, I'm I don't need your star, Jerry. I am.
I'm the star, and I'm the only star I actually
care about. Yeah, the one on my helmet I care
about because you pay me exactly. Yeah, And I do
think you know, I heard some people talking about how
Micah was never really a Dallas guy. He was always

(47:30):
at seventy six ers games or wearing a Lebron jersey
to MAVs games, like he was he never you know,
Dak is always Dak goes to Rangers and Stars games,
and it's like, okay, spare me all.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Of that Lebron war and Yankees hat when he went
to New York and stuff.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
And I think that's more of that new media or
like that new head mentality of like, no, I'm not
just going to instantly become a fan of every team
in this market just because I play in this city.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
The it's like, why are you a Niners fan and
you don't live in San Francisco. I don't need to
live in San Francisco to group for a team.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Yeah, I mean, I'm a Chelsea fan and I've only
been to London once. You didn't even see the stadium.
It's there was something else you just said about thinking
about I've got a couple more notes to get to,
but there was something specifically you had just said. We
were talking conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Conspiracy about him being the more popular. Yeah, the only
one to buck the system was Jimmy.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
And yeah, maybe it'll come back to me. You did
mention George Pickens. Uh so Jerry is now spinning it. Oh, okay,
this is what it was. I also don't think it's
a conspiracy to one percent say that Jerry watching that
documentary changed the way he negotiated this deal.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Yeah, he wont he won that fireback. He wanted that control.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
That's exactly exactly, and Will McLay and Steven had clawed
some of that away from him. This is the equivalent
of if Steven doesn't tackle him, literally physically tackle him.
This is this is this is drafting Johnny Manziel instead
of Zach Martin. This is Jerry saying, guess what I know.

(49:26):
Y'all all think I'm just uh, you know, living off
my my accomplishments from the nineties. Here's a whole documentary
showing it. But now I'm about to show you who's
still really in charge. This is because I don't think
I would like to think Will McClay probably doesn't agree
with this decision. I wonder what Steven. That's what I

(49:50):
was about to say, like I honestly, and Jerry squirmed
away this time. I don't know I'd be really I mean, well.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
I'm doing it, damn it.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
I equal because it's the Cowboys. We'll get plenty of
reporting post on.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
We're going to get too completely different.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Oh for sure. So yeah, I don't I don't think
it's conspiracy at all to say that Jerry watched that
documentary and said, I have a I have a chance
to do it, to make this my final herschel Walker moment.
I'm glory. I'm on the way out. I'm going to.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Hole. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Well, now you mentioned Pickens, though it does the narrative
now is well with this money, Uh, you know, Tyler
Smith should be the highest paid guard in the league tomorrow.
Get that deal done right now, and don't leave yourself
in because because he's the next, Tyler Smith is the

(50:50):
next name that they're going to drag along like they
did CD, like they did Micah Dak all of them.
He's going to be the next. You don't get as
much run out of an offensive guard, yeah, dragging those
contract negotiations out. But because he's so good, I think
that's the obvious one that they're going to mess with now.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
But they're gonna they're gonna mess it up and give
Pickens money.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
So I definitely think Pickens gets paid now.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
He won't. He's gonna want at Tyler I Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
He's gonna want wide receiver one and a half money.
He wants not wide receiver one, but not wide receiver too.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
He's gonna want forty mil I guarantee.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
You no, it won't be that high. It won't be
that high because.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Did you see Jamar Chase his contract?

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Yeah, but you're talking, that's what I'm saying, Like, that's
that's like CD asking for that.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
But he was number one over there and now he's
with CD. Let's see if it was the first big sneeze,
do it away from me? Don't do it away for me?

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Big Okay, now went away?

Speaker 1 (51:52):
God, don't put that germs on me.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Bro come, it's gotta come back. Yeah, Jamar Chase. See,
but Jamal is the only one at forty. Jefferson thirty five,
CD thirty four Metcalf I think you're I think you're.
I got thirty million, Yeah, that's that's number.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Yeah, four years and he got one.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Well yeah, I mean that's yeah, that's the number. Probably yeah.
But guess what.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
I think he's gonna want more than that. Honestly, I
think he's gonna want thirty five or something like that.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Yeah, I mean again, dependent on what the season looks like,
what he uh, you know, what kind of numbers he
puts up. But the funny thing specifically about Pickens, guess
who his agent is no, no, no, no agent buddy, literally
Pickens agent. He it's not Mullagetta specifically, but it's another

(52:47):
agent at that same agency. It's the athlete's first agency.
So Pickens is literally represented by the same agency house.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
And he's literally going to be like, look, if you
don't want to put up with this bullshit it we'll
get you in somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
I think money always, money always speaks louder than anything else,
and I do think the Cowboys, if Pickens has a
big year, I think that's the that is the obvious
choice for where Micah's money, a big chunk of Micah's
money goes, because I think they would, you know, Deron
Bland is the other name that pops up. I think
they would be much more likely to give Pickens big

(53:23):
money than they would Bland big money. And the Tyler
Smith one just feels like a given. But yeah, I
thought that was hilarious when I saw uh.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Just crushing again.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Well, hey there's some good news today.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Yeah, they're against the White Sox though, come on now.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
That doesn't help me at all. The other last note
before we move on here, I saw a lot of
people comparing you do you remember the Jamal Adams trade
from Jets to Seahawks.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Oh, Greg, you're just gross. He said, I'll buy ten
coffees if you sneeze in caps face. Oh well, sir,
I do not want to go.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
It's not covid. Uh. No, the Jamal Adams trade back
in July of twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
I forgot he was on the Packers, right.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
He was on the Jets. He went from Jets to
Seahawks at this point.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
But specifically who they get They got Exavier. No, they
trade away Xavier McKinney.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Right, Not in that trade. It was mcdonnaugh believe was
the But the specifically the comparisons between Jamal Adams trade
back then and the Micah trade. Now, first of all,
the deal was done in July of that year, not

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the week before season started, and you're supposed to do it.
That's correct. And I do think this is where because
we haven't we really haven't talked about what the Cowboys
have gotten back in the trade besides to first and
the first picks are going or the first that was
going to be was Kenny Clark.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Kenny Clark, and I was like Clark Clinton, so he superman.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
I mean, he's an All Pro defensive tackle. But when
he entered the league he was twenty years old. He
was in the twenty sixteen draft class, same draft class
as Dak.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Yes, he's got nine years tread on that time.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
At defensive tackle in the trenches. He turns thirty in
a month.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
It's only like, yeah, what Aaron Dodges. So he was
an Aaron Donald's.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Draft twenty sixteen. Yeah, yeah, and he's been great. Yeah,
he's all I mean, he's he is. He is a
massive upgrade by a mile over everything they have on
the interior defensive line currently. He is absolutely immediate starter, run,

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an immediate impact guy because now you can put him
next to Odiggy Zoo turned Osa, allow him to be
more of that pass rusher interior lineman. And so the
football the idea that the Cowboys got significantly worse, I
think is overbooked. They definitely got worse losing Micah, You're worst.

(56:12):
There's no significant No, I hear me out. What is
significantly worse when you're already only a seven win team?
You get what I'm like, This didn't turn them from
a seven win to a four win or a three
win like you're trying to get the market.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Like I think everybody comes, I haven't heard this is
our year.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Oh it's not. Now. When you trade your best player
a week before, you're admitting yourself it's not your year.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Like every Cowboy fan is just like, we're gonna lose.
We suck, blah blahlah blah. It was very pessimistic this year. Yeah,
that's because.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
We've all been here thirty.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
And y'all went to the playoffs even though you got
you know, like got dog walk by Green Bay.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
But like Kansas City or San Francisco two years before that,
for the preceding two years.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Like that's everybody's like, oh man, we're gonna win this.
I was like, dude, we already we already know Micah,
we know how to scheme against him. You know, don't
don't sit too high and mighty on there thrown that
you don't have. Oh my god, is it bad? I
didn't even look at it.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Is it bad?

Speaker 3 (57:26):
All right? We gotta address this right now?

Speaker 2 (57:30):
What are we addressing?

Speaker 3 (57:32):
No, we gotta not do a show if we're sick.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
We're not sick. We are no one sick.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Yes we are sick, or we need to get you
with the setup at home so you can remote. No
one do the show from the.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Only one sick is Jerry for trading Micah. No one's
sick here.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
So LG Studios is closed for sick people there.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
From here on out, there is very well. I have
a doctor's note that it cleared me for work.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
This ain't work.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
They don't get paid.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
Well, you get paid for work.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
We got we got a microphone gable.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Here. Let me.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Coughing in that mic I didn't cough in the mic
He's just every time he's just like, oh my god, hey, LG,
I got I need to scratch my back, man, I
gotta itch the uh.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
So Jamal Adams and uh. Everyone was rushing to compare
it to that trade because that one they still got
the two first like Dallas did. Uh and a third. Yeah,
so the comparison getting Kenny Clark instead of getting that
extra third round pick, it does help them win football

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games this year, at least that is even still the goal.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
It makes me cringe that we gave up three first
round or just to move up to second. Lance. That
was I was like, oh my god, this is gonna
be awesome. And then I'm like wait a mane, this
is the stupidest trade in the world. And yeah, I
gotta live with that one. But you know, you find

(59:12):
some gold on mister and mister irrelevant. Yeah, the legend
of Brockthaniel party.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
If in itself, if the Cowboys in drafting, the odds
of the Cowboys drafting anybody that does what Micah has
already done, the odds of the Cowboys getting a ten
sack for four seasons guy in the late twenties, I send.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
In a double zero on the roulette table.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Yeah, it's pretty pretty low, pretty low. So I mean,
there's no I don't think you can, as a Cowboy
fan sit back and say no, I'm actually I'm happy
they traded Micah, and I'm satisfied with the return. Even
if you're happy they traded Micah, you gotta be it's
the same way with the Luca. Like you're happy you
didn't like Luca. You want it in gone, Okay, you

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got your way, But you can't be happy with this return.
And it's just it doesn't match up with what you're
giving up.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
I mean, you gotta look who has really broken out
and it's a late twenty plus round.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Or that you know, oh they're there, but I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
It's usually second year breakouts. It's not first year like
maybe Puka Nakua what was he like? Usually find those
crazy ones in like the second and third round, Like
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Yeah, I think it's you know, like, well, right now,
a guy that is going to be expected to pick
up a lot of the slack with Micah gone is
the Cowboys second round pick this past year, Donovan as
a Rocket, the kid out of Boston College. So, I mean,
I think final thoughts on the Micah trade one wouldn't

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have done.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
It, wouldn't have done it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
But if you're gonna do it, would have done it
six months ago. Yeah. And at the end of it,
if you get a guy a getting with one of
these picks that is as good as Micah, I would
probably pay them before they get to their fifth year option.
Those are the Those are the four year maybe even

(01:01:24):
before that, maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
We want you this much, you know, that really tells
a player or something like when you're ready to give
them a bag before they're even out of their rookie contract,
you know, so, and then without even going for the
fifth year option.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
You know, Yeah, not not the way I would do business.
But alas uh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Oh cowboys, they never ceased to them.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Cowboys gonna cowboys. You boys want to do any lightning
ground or you want to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Just get out of here, you get out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
I might be about needing to get out of Let me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Let me just get some fancy news to y'all. We
are doing the draft live. It's gonna start. The draft
room opens up thirty minutes before before we uh draft
and a draft set it up at eight fifteen, So
we're gonna go live at eight. We're gonna be able

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to sit there and see our draft positions. Like when
it opens up thirty minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Before, how do we get how are we assigning draft position?

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
It does it automatically.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
I need to be in the room when it does
it automatically. We need to verify that no one's getting screwed.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
The draft room opened, like, I can't do it. Man.
I had one of my buddies still like to this day,
had a Yahoo stack correction during the playoffs from the
Semis to the championship and it was like six points
and they did it on a Thursday, which they usually
do stack corrections on a Wednesday, and he swears I
did it it was one of the years I won,

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and I was like, how could I do that? He's like,
you called up Yahoo were something.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Yeah, you called y'all miss excuse me, mister Yahoo. Like
I'm trying to screw over my friend. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
No, it was just like I don't know, like three
players had sat correction and he had all of them.
And but anyway, thirty minutes before seven five, the draft
room will open. You will know your order right then
you can prep your order. Please do mock drafts. You will.
It will help you immensely. It will make you see
players where they're positioned, and hopefully you don't pick anybody

(01:03:29):
who you know is suspended.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Or kick her in the first round.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Yeah, go for it, hey Man wild Card, one of
my buddies was it. His first pick was Jalen waddle
To two years ago and he's not even the number
one receiver on Miami and he took that in first.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Overall, it seems like a rough, rough foundation.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
To build up. So but we will go live at
eight and at eight fifteen we will start the draft
and it's gonna take about an hour and fifteen minutes.
And I'm gonna set the clock at one minute so
we can get we get through it fast so we
can make sure that we do it live. All the
picks will be on here, and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Then we're still gonna do shows Wednesday and Friday, right yeah, yeah, okay,
yeah Wednesday, but for the what you McAll before the
Cowboys Eagles opener, and then we're gonna do a post
game so after that, but have any questions, I set
all the league settings on there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
We're doing rolling waivers, which means once you use it,
you go from you go to the bottom at twelve. Waivers.
Are you put your waiver in before Tuesday at two
am that's when the way or Tuesday at twelve that's
when they shut down. And basically any player that's on
a free agent, you get a chance to get him

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before anyone else if you have a high waiver. But
once you use it, you go down to twelve. And
that's a rolling waiver, and trust me, you win or
lose championships with waiver pickups. There's always a break out
wide receiver, there's always a hurt running back, there's always
a hurt quarterback. There's always a breakout rookie quarterback. You know,

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so kind of like keep that in mind handcuffed your
handcuff your backups, especially running backs. If you're gonna pick
up Christian McCaffrey, might as well think that in the
twelfth thirteenth round, pick up Brian Robinson Junior or Isaac Grendo.
You know, because if Caffrey gets hurt, which he won't
this year, you know you have a solid running back

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on your bench. So that's if you have any questions,
feel free to email email me DM me. I see
those a lot easier at the Captain's chair two and
oh and email is the Capyitan two on oh T
H G C A P I T A N two
on O at gmail dot com. And we got everybody

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in the league. We're set. I go to league settings
to look at the points and yeah, man, like hid
your kids because it might be a little bit of
cussing during this little thing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
I'll come tuesday.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Yeah, that's that might be a little PG thirteen.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
You know, I'm curious to see I need to get
on the same page. Was curious to see, uh, what
our strategy is going to be and how I can
contribute to the overall success.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
You just sit there and look pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
I already told him I'm going full Jerry Jones.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
This is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Oh yeah, yeah, we're going full Jerry.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Well, on that note, LG, get us out of here
for the night. Shout out Dan, Why shout out Steve
Spreester one on the way out, one on the way in.
Congrats to both of those guys. We will be back
Tuesday night. Enjoy Labor Day Day, Labor Day weekend. Enjoy
the college football slate. Uh, you'all be good, well, not

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sickly peaced kids.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
What do we say about drugs? You just stay yeah,