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September 26, 2025 140 mins
Light the beam and buckle up for a wild Thursday night ride inside The Sports Cave with Biggest Puma, hosted by Sam Freas! Broadcasting live from the north side of San Antonio, Sam is joined by Cap and LG for a fast-paced, hilarious, and insight-packed episode that blends sports talk with offbeat banter and cultural commentary.

With just 27 days until Spurs opening night, the crew kicks things off debating whether the primetime matchup featuring Wemby will be the ESPN headliner. LG, now officially a Spurs employee, gets roasted for his new corporate life and lack of media pass privileges—while also being congratulated for his “first day of school” style post.

From National Lobster Day to the culinary fusion of lobster quesadillas, the conversation spirals into cheese pairings, Lou Dobbs mispronunciations, and the golden rule of saying things fast when unsure. But it’s not all comedy—this episode dives deep into:
  • MLB playoff chaos: The Guardians’ miracle run, the Astros’ collapse, and the Rangers’ emotional farewell to their World Series core.
  • As Micah prepares to return to Jerry World, the guys get their picks locked in for the Sunday Night Football matchup in Dallas and discuss the potential avenues to improvement for this historically bad Cowboys defense.
  • NFL & college football previews, including a look back at the infamous 6–6 Thursday Night Football game between Seattle and Arizona.
  • Lightning Round: Featuring what might be the greatest athletic achievement ever caught on film, rivaling even Bo Jackson’s legendary wall run.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lie du bean Lie d bean Line, bean Line.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Be oh light the beam. Indeed, Welcome into the Thursday
night edition of the Sports Cave with Biggest Puma. I
am your host, Sam Freeze, joined again in the room
by Cap across the table in LG under the same

(00:27):
roof broadcasting live on the north side of San Antonio
where fellas twenty seven days is all we have till
Spurs opening night.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Is it gonna be a primetime game?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Uh? Yeah, but I think I'm pretty sure it's espiin.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
I mean, like, is it gonna be like the featured game. Yeah,
it's gotta be Wimby versus.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, it's Uh. I think it's the second game of
the doubleheader, Okay, Like I think I can't remember what
the early one is because I don't. I think it's
actually a later start. I think it's like an eight thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
So no TNT anymore so.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
But you're forgetting about the preseason game against the.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Guang Xiao Lung Lions.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Thank you October six. Thank you company man Lgu who
is now also a SS and E employee.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
He was drafted.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
I mean, give me your hot opinions about that guang
Xi Dragon roster how are they looking this year?

Speaker 3 (01:24):
At that point?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I is Wang Jiji still active in the Chinese Basketball Association?
Gen Lynn, careful, I can already see where that's going.
And we're only two minutes into this thing. Save that
at least for the second hour, because we have a lot,
a lot to get to tonight. On this National Lobster Day.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Oh Monney, what rock lots? That's a big one, hey, man,
I like a good lobster.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
That's also National Case of DIA Day, which naturally brings
the question of would a lobster cas idea be as
delicious as it sounds in my head?

Speaker 3 (02:05):
I don't know, man, It had to be a different
type of cheese than like your regular Monterey Jack or check.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Oh yeah, no, no, no, you got seafood and cheese, sweet seafood.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
It's a sweet a lobster by itself.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Some of the best case ideas I've had, though, are
shrimp case ideas.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, but the shrimps are sweet.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Not as sweet, No, not as sweet, especially not poached
in butter like you like my lobster.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Will we go with a good breeze?

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Uh no, Now you're getting a little French that's ultimate fusion,
Like some wa hawkan cheese, maybe something a little oh man,
something a little sharp. I don't know what you just said,
a little kid, But I said it fast because I
wanted to. I said it fast because I didn't want
to sound like low daubs that time when he was

(02:51):
trying to say uh, cities in Mexico and he was
weighing over his head, but he did fall. He didn't
follow the golden rule of if you're not sure, just
say it fast. He went the opposite. He went holla.
One of the greatest clips of lou Dobbs's illustrious career. No,

(03:13):
we have a lot to get to tonight. It's Thursday night.
We've got the game on in the room with us
as we speak. You'll remember, let's hope for draw not
we almost got one nine years ago on Thursday Night
football with this exact matchup. It was a six to
six game that went to overtime. Oh god, that's like Thursday, Yeah,

(03:35):
like that whole year.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
The Thursday games I remember were awful.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, they were multiple. I think the Dolphins were involved
in a really bad one too. The Thursday games have
I mean, they've gotten better three weeks in, but they've
been fairly decent, at least so far.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
I mean, we had Buffalo last last Thursday with Miami.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, that was and it turned out to be a
better game than the their line suggested until two gave
it up. You know, yeah, I bet everybody to it
on the ball. Oh you're proud of that one, aren't you.
You should be as you should be. Uh No, We're gonna,
of course, start with what I watched here in a minute,
and we'll wrap up a little bit of baseball talk there.

(04:15):
But we've got cow notes to get into. We've got
football weekend preview and the main, Suggie, We'll start with
NFL before we try to squeeze in some college football
at the back end of the main, and then of
course Lightning Round to close it out, including what might
be the greatest athletic achievement ever recorded on film. Oh,

(04:38):
at the end of Lightning Round.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
That's that's how I praise there, buddy.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
We'll see where we'll see where you fall on the
on the argument.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
But every time I hear athletic achievement like bo Jackson
just pops in my mind.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
See, and this is a very bo Jackson esque clip
that happened I'll give you a hint.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Who does that.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
It happened on this day in.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
The year two thousand, two thousand.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
That's that's when America went to hell when they took
Conan off. When Conan actually really it was when Letterman
went that was the last of the of the Golden
But no, on this day in the year two thousand.
Arguably again, it's right up there with the best bo
Jackson clip you're thinking of right now. It's to think

(05:23):
about it, though, think about it, because we've got two
hours till we get there. Of course, we always got
to start with LG the company, the Spurs company man
that he is, despite being able to give us his
CBA All Star list. Definitely, first of all, congrats to LG. Again,

(05:44):
we said it when he got the job, but I
saw he put out a very cute official first day
of work post.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
It was like a first day school pig.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
It's exactly what I thought of.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
It was real corporate Yeah, well, corporate bonding.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
You gotta build that tuture, you gotta build that culture.
That's the Spurs way. That's it, right. LG got introduced
to it firsthand.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Oh yeah, last night, like he tells me, Yeah, no
sexual harassment.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, probably rules.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
I'm not allowed to represent the company in any way
whatsoever in the media. So my thoughts are my thoughts only,
not not anything to do with the spurs.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
I can't.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
I will no longer be able to bet on any
n B A or w n B A or affiliates
of the franchises at all.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Like w n B A, Like, how does that play?

Speaker 3 (06:38):
I guess silver Stars.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
You can bet and they got they got. W n
B A is owned by the n B A, so
I think that's why that falls under that same.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, that's like who bets on w n B A game? Right, buddy?

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Let me tell you there are some efficiencies in those games?
Is that a good sharp.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Might always bet the under? I heard something like that.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Okay, there's there are some sharps out there that would
suggest w n B A used to be easy money.
It's a little more difficult now because their viewership is
skyrocketed six times what it was two years ago.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Now. The thing I want LG to get us is
some media credentials. Yeah, just like everybody.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
I don't even I don't even get a media pass now.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
They don't. They certainly don't make it that easy for
LG to be handing them out like candy. But LG
tell the good people the multitude, now, multitude of ways
they can support the program.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Well, immediately, you could jump in the super chat and
let us know what.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
You think of us, Yeah, buddy, Or you can hit.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
That subscribe button and that'll help us in the long
run getting to our goal of one thousand subscribers.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yes to our own YouTube plan as, Uh, I think
we're a ways away from a.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Could we actually hang that on the wall, LG, because
you always knock down on my other ideas.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
Yeah, if you get the YouTube play button, we'll put it.
We'll put it on the wall.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
YouTube play buttons, what a million.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
To the.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
First one, because they're like plant, they're like records, you know, platinum.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
That's what your DARE graduation. It literally looked like you
had well I.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Take it over my government.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah it's not as it looked.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Like you actually were a kid that needed DARE. Like
from the from one.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Frame of the one day. In that frame is a
speech I wrote. As you say it. When you graduate.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
One thousand subscribers, I will read that. You will read
the speech one thousands?

Speaker 3 (08:50):
So bad?

Speaker 2 (08:52):
What was that first off, is like it's.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Like sunny, always sunny in Philadelphia. Charlie trying to read
me good bad drug.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Okay, listen, listen, folks. Subscriptions are absolutely free. They will
never cost you a single penny. I need to hear
Cap recite this dare pledge he made in fifth grade.
We need to get to a thousand as we continue
to grow this thing. Absolutely appreciate the five hundred and

(09:21):
some odd that have subscribed. If you have not, again,
it's super easy, super free. And if you don't have
a YouTube account, just make one real quick. It'll never
cost you a single thing. Links to Google, man, and
Google never gets tacks. No, yeah, I mean out of
all of them, I would, I guess, feel the safest there.

(09:43):
And you mentioned also the super chats we were talking earlier.
We we missed one last week. I think it was
Homeboy Josh that threw one out.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
So I'm gonna pay more attention to you guys on
the on the chats.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
So over here, I'll put it up right now, here's
Josh super chat.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
From Josh appreciated from last show.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Oh yeah, Josh is a big Michigan man. He is
a He's a huge Michigan fan. I he was. Actually
I don't have This might not surprise you. Uh, I
don't have a whole lot of Midwesterners or fans of
Midwestern teams in my inner circle, for you, not a
whole lot, not a whole lot, not a whole lot

(10:28):
of time for it. But Josh is a good dude
who somehow roots for Michigan.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
I guess I'm the old blue collar man. It seems,
you know.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Oh you can, no, you can be blue collar from like,
I'm just not Midwestern blue collar. I'm not jamming Bob
Seger on the drive home.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
I'm watching that. Uh well those Seger's fine. It's just
that that mayor, the mayor of Easton. And now it's
the task where it's like the Pittsburgh accent.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Oh no, I can't.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
It's so I'm like, dude, that is the weird do they.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Really talk about? The hardest thing to Mike McCarthy about
was nothing that had to do with the Cowboys.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
It was just, oh, well, we played the football. It's
got the you know, it's just it's just how it's
how we do it in Pittsburgh. You know, you know,
you know, I can't I couldn't do it.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
I had never I guess I had never had someone
with a Pittsburgh accent in my life until hearing him
do press conferences. I'll take shody asking himself questions that
he turns around. Did we play well?

Speaker 3 (11:29):
No?

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Do we plan on playing better this week?

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Like that's that's shoddy in every press conference that Yeah,
it's grading on me. It's good. It would be a
lot nicer if you had beaten beaten Chicago, and then
I might not be as uh torked up about it.
But let's jump into it because, like I said, we
have a lot to get to tonight, starting with what
I watched, and it it was a it was a

(11:55):
mercy kill. This afternoon up in DFW, the Rangers played
their final home game of the season. Now after charging
all the way back to get within half a game.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
I thought you weren't watching them anymore.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Well, it was one thirty and it was one on
a Thursday. I did watch. I watched Tanner Testaman the
Americans score a banger of a goal for Leon and
Europa League. It was pretty sick, but no I was.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
I was.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
I'm a glutton for punishment.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Apparently the terms again man banger like all like, you know,
I got called low level the other day from like
a gen Z person. Oh no, And I'm like what
is that? What is that? And like you'hould so low
level blah blah blah blah, like a I'm learning not
to like have a possible debate or discussion with pregnant women.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Oh no, I feel that I'm a feminist. I thought
you were gonna say, I'm a feminist.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
I should be able to talk with them, empathize, sympathize, relate.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
I thought you were gonna say with gen Z and
I couldn't know gen.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Z one was twenty six, the other one was twenty
eight or something. Well she sat next to me. I
don't like.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
I was like, wait, where's the line? Twenty eight feels
like a young millennial.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
No, man, I'm a mo, Like we're millennials. We're in
her late thirties maybe early forties. But yeah yeah, gen
Z's like no.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
No, no, gen Z, So a twenty eight year old
is the youngest possible millennial.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Oh my god. Now we're going like, I'm we're I'm
barely in the friend. Yeah, you're in your friend. What
are the liberals like to call you you're a geriatric millennial. Yeah, yeah,
that's someone dropped that on me. I'm the one who
baby millennials and stuff. But yeah, no, I was talking
to him and like she was like, yeah, I had

(13:47):
a COVID baby and my baby daddy was sitting there, uh,
sitting there asleep and only time he woke up was
talking to his girlfriend. And I'm like, well, hold on.
I was like why. I was like, why would you
allow that to happen? And this girl, this little redhead
you know, just turns around to me and she's like,
oh my god. And I'm like what happened? And she's like,

(14:11):
how can you say that exactly? And I'm like how
can you say that? I'm like what. She's like, how
can you? You don't know what she's going through? Blah blah.
And while the whole time, the person we're talking to
you is like we weren't together. Like I was like,
she wasn't mad. But then she called me low level
and I'm like I don't understand this word. And then

(14:33):
she's like, now, I bet you think you know what
pain feels like is a pregnancy?

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Oh we jumped to that real quick.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
I was like, well, I've shattered my pelvis, which can
happen on a regular birth if you don't give a
C section, you know, and the tearing. I have had
a kidney stone, so I have torn my p hole.
My Richard, My Richard got torn up.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
I appreciate.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
My Richard torn up? And why you?

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Why you?

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Before you have the kiddie stone, you have labor pains
because it's working your way through the thing, like it
was like six hours labor pains. And so I'm like,
I think I can relate, and she's like, you're a
cringe and start calling me cringe and it's like I
gotta get up, and I'm like, well, no one to
ask you to say.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
So I might or might not use uh some AI
to create, you know, maybe episode descriptions and stuff. I
feel like AI, or at least the one I'm using.
It speaks exclusively in bad gen Z Internet, like everything

(15:42):
is cringe or I'm dead. Yeah, it threw a six
seven reference in there that.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
You can't say dead now because I hear someone it's
an unliving like my phone is unliving right now.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Well, that's like you know this.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
I've never knew I heard this till yesterday.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, as our government told us, Epstein unlive himself. That's
that's the official line. That's what I mean. Yeah, you can't.
I can't just be crass and say say the S word.
How did we get here from talks starting with okay? Actually,
you know what, I enjoyed that conversation way more than
I did the Rangers for nothing shut out this afternoon.

(16:25):
It's over.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Want to hear about that, but I will.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
That's how we got there, now, it was I feel like,
I mean, they've been out of it now for a
week after teasing my uh, teasing my emotions and climbing
all the way back in it two weeks ago or
however long that's been now. Yeah, it was the only
reason I'm bringing it up, and really the only reason

(16:53):
I watched it is because they're about to have a
lot of roster turnover and it's a lot of the
guys that won the World Series two years ago. Contracts, Yeah,
contracts and uh, you know, like Bochie is Bruce Bochie
back as a manager. I'm right now probably leaning no.

(17:16):
It feels like.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Well, or get a different hitting coach.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Well, well, you know, Brett Boone changed a few things
in the second half of the season. They fired their
first coach halfway through, but you know, yeah, yeah, that
was that was a desperation move. Adoles Garcia World Series hero,
Astro's killer in the playoffs, absolute emotional leader of that

(17:44):
team for the World Series around. He's had it down
two years since the World Series and he was always
a you know, flyer of a prospect to begin with.
He's you know, Cuban defector, had played in Japan before
you know exactly, he was pleet so by the you know,
he got to he was in Saint Louis before Texas,

(18:06):
and by that point he was already like twenty seven
twenty eight. When Texas won the World Series, he was
twenty nine thirty. Now we're in age thirty two moving
into they're not offering him a contract. He's about to
get non tendered as soon as the season ends, So
you know, it is I think we've talked about it
a little bit. The uh, you know, for me, the

(18:29):
Rangers teams that I emotionally connected with the most were
the ones with Ron Washington, Michael Young leading you know,
the early uh you know, twenty ten, twenty eleven, and
not just that, but the whole build up that got
him to that point. You know, the Hank blaylock in
Kinsler Uh to Shara who ended up becoming the big

(18:52):
trade piece that got them. You know, Matt Harrison starts
a World Series game for him, He was in the
to Shara trade, Elvis, all of Yankees tally. Now he's
also running for US representative now back here in Texas, Buddy, Yeah,
he's playing the politics game.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Now. I don't think that's going to Democrats if.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
You want to h not so much, buddy, if you
want a fun deep dive search. You know how like
a bunch of these average to spare NBA players now
have big podcast. Yeah, the same can be said for
Latin American baseball players. There's a bunch of guys that
you'll hear the name like, oh I remember him, he

(19:34):
played with the Rays for two years or three years.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
You know.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Well, now they have big, big time listenership podcast. There's
a whole wormhole, a whole thread of former Latin players
just straight up calling Mark to Sarah Racis just straight
up saying like oh no, no, no, he only did that
to the Latin players, like it was not a rookie
hazing it was like, yeah, there's.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Again, they're pulling out receipts on him.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Democrats probably aren't gonna win that seat with them running
in Texas, but no.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
They're gonna put out those receipts and they're gonna be
like even better exactly.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
I mean, why do you think he's running here the No,
it's it's just the it's the end of an era.
But it feels like it was an era that even
though it got the World Series, I'm not even sure.
I'm not even sure the World Series team was like
a top three favorite team. It was just out of
nowhere and they, you know, go undefeated on the road.

(20:31):
That whole playoff story.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Just more of Astros losing the Astros in LA.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, them getting past the Astro not.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Going to the World Series. That was the whole story
because it was like Arizona and Texas.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, what are we doing with that?

Speaker 3 (20:46):
They beat the Astros in the LA which we had
another collision. Course.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
I will say this though, that the Rangers' offense the
first half of that year was historically good until it
plummeted and they were under five hundred for the second
half of the year and barely held onto a wild
card spot the No.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
One.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
I think at the All Star break, it was conceivable
to see the Rangers in the World Series that year
because of how well they had what seven all start
something ridiculous. The Diamondbacks were the team that was really
like whole out of nowhere.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
And the bullpen that was it.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, and and young Corbyn Carroll starting to become a
superstar who's now a thirty to thirty guy. I saw
him get that last week. But no, it it's we're
gonna talk baseball, and the story obviously is not the Rangers.
But I had to mention at the top.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Of about to get the division.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Are you what's the what's the update on that?

Speaker 3 (21:46):
We are We are tied, but the Toronto has the
tiebreaker at seven to five, and I do not know
what the score of the game is with Boston. They're
having the last game with Boston. We are having the
last game with Chicago White Socks. We're up five to
three and if we win, if we basically if we
win one more, we have to win one more because

(22:08):
they own the tie breaker. Our last series is against Orioles,
their last series against Tampa, and Tampa is actually playing good,
right now, so I think if there, I think, so.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Do you want the Blue Jays to win against the
Red Sox or lose? Right now? Okay, they're they're winning
for yeah, that's why.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Yeah, I was about to its position, so gross to say.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
But Toronto's winning six to one right now in the
eight at the bottom of the eighth.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
So it looks like I was I said before in
the last uh these last two series, we have to
win out and to win it. And I think we
have a one game you know, like I think Tampa
can take one game from them, and we got to
sweep the Orioles.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Y'all, how can we get the first round by you
have clinched a spot at least though, yeah, Boston still
waiting to clinch a spot.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Oh in New York media, like in all the old
Yankees in the fashion, why are we celebrating a playoff
birth and blah blah blah blah blah. That's never our
goal and like, come on, man, this was a tough
year man injuries, Garrett Cole going out at the beginning,
all these rookies starting they actually doing good.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, who was so going back to the twenty twenty
three year when the Rangers clinched their playoff spot. Yeah,
the division was still open for them to win it.
And I remember that was Brian mctigert, the Astros rider,
who was pointedly criticizing the Rangers for celebrating as if

(23:44):
they had just won a World Series when all they
had done is clinched a playoff spot. Like, there's different
levels to it. Like the Rangers celebration might have been
more than your average playoff clinching celebrat, but they hadn't
been in a decade. They're close to it half a decade.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
We got Roy saying thank yous things for the super
chat saying the bad officiating is killing Toronto. Now is
that in favor of Toronto or in favor of Boston?
Because I haven't been watching this series too much. I've
been focusing on my Yankees, you know. Yeah, I watching
Judge get to be one of the fourth every fourth
ever player to have four fifty home run seasons.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
I've got that on the list for you.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Yeah, buddy.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Now, I've watched more Olympic leoned soccer this week than
I have Red Sox or Blue Jays.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
So it's been some like top ten sports centers there
have been some soccer shots.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Man, That's what I was saying, my bicycle finger. One
might say, uh no, it's looking at the The story
with the playoff push right now is the fact that
in the last week of July, as teams are trying
to decide are they buyers are they sellers at the

(25:00):
trade deadline, you look at the standings what they looked like.
The day of the trade deadline, Cleveland was fifteen and
a half games out of the AL Central lead. Fifteen
and a half in the last week of July. They've
got two pitchers that had been suspended with the gambling probe.

(25:22):
They decide their sellers at the trade deadline. They don't
sell their big pieces like Rameirez or Kwan, but they
sell complimentary pieces. Yeah to you know, reasure the farm
system get some prospects out of because they clearly fifteen
and a half games out of the division. You're not
thinking about it at all the.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Top of the wild card right now? Or are they?

Speaker 2 (25:45):
How about I tell you on September first, they were
still ten and a half games out of first place,
so they had only made up five games from basically
the month of August. So starting in September and granted,
remember that is twenty four days ago. Twenty four days ago,

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Cleveland was ten and a half games out of the
AL West. They've gone seventeen and two in their last
nineteen games, and they now officially lead the AL Central,
with the Tigers now the final wild card team, a
game ahead of the Astros.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
Dude, the collapse of the Tigers and the Prastros the
past this past month, I mean, nothing makes me see
hellttle happier to see the Astros collapse. But seeing the Tigers,
how sure they were and how much they got the
pitching locked, hitting, locked, bullpen was nice, you know. And
now they just they can't buy a win this in September.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Now they are just looking at it here. I mean
they are.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
They got to be like seven and something.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Two and eight over their last ten. Oh god, and
uh with uh? Did you see what? So the Guardians
and Tigers have been playing each other most recently in
the series. That's what allowed Cleveland to pull past them.
Detroit's best player, best picture in the AL Schooble. Yeah,

(27:16):
did you see him pluck the Guardians guy right in
the eye? I mean, just.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Like the dude didn't even flinch.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
No, he did.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
He stood there and took it.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Right to the cheek, right to the David fryes his
name in a ninety nine mile an hour fastball from
the best picture in the al and.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
It shook him straight to the It shook school. They
had to take him out like an inning and a
half later because he just couldn't get right. I don't know,
I mean, dude, he was dude. He took his hat off.
It looked like he just saw death.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
So he ended up going and visiting Fry at the
hospital along with the Guardians manager. They went together to
go visiting fractured all kinds. Yeah, surgery, you know, repair
only six to eight weeks on the timeline, so we'll see.
I mean, it's just a pain tolerance kind of deal.

(28:12):
But unless Cleveland makes a deep, deep playoff run.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
And was one of their good ones, man, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Mean he was a guy. He showed up big in
the series last year against y'all. Yeah, against the Yankees.
But yeah, you mentioned the Astros. Astros have now slid
a game behind the final wild card spot, a game
behind Detroit, and you know, I don't I'm gonna talk.
I'm hosting Andy's uncle Andy's show tomorrow, and Bartlett is

(28:46):
a big Astros fan, so I'm curious to, you know,
pick his brain of exactly where he pinpoints the downfall.
But from what I've seen, you know, the discussions online
regarding the Astros, it feels like a lot of the
fan base is upset, mainly about the.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Lack of movement at the trade deadline.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, but also the shift in because the lack of
movement is being blamed on the big free agent contracts
they've given out recently that haven't really you know, showed up.
Brayw was a huge miss for them. Yeah, Hater was
better this year, good this year, but had the injury
and has been out for the second half now.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Show shout out to James with a twenty dollars super chat.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Hey, good dude, Good dude, j.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
G Man, congratulations on the job. But hey, Man, appreciate it. Man,
keep it coming. Roy's had a good deep dive Detroit
as one to ten since they did the Trump dances
in New York.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Oh that's okay. I feel like you can always.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
How do you do stay? Do you notice that?

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Like that?

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Good job, Roy?

Speaker 2 (29:55):
So there's some liberal baseball nerd out there how can
I find way to tie us back to Trump? Here?

Speaker 3 (30:03):
There was like I hear enough of that guy.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
I feel like I feel like someone of the other
leaning could easily look up because like, uh, soccer players
were doing although well, no Polisic has scored in like
every game so far this season, So you could argue,
what is that next Thursday, We're just going to do
all that's Thursday night game next week.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yeah, we're just gonna do all NFC West Thursday's divisional games.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
I wonder if there's some connection to like schedule waiting,
where like w E, I G HD like waiting. So
if there's it's less of a advantage for if every
team in the division has to do it back to
back weeks. Maybe that's their logic there, But I mean
that's not like this game.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
It seems like they're doing heavy in the beginning for
some and heavy at the end and then like a
lot of middle games for other divisions, you know. But
like he's like NFC West is the one where it's
the beginning in the end because the very end and
then Dallas what was it the last game they play
is with the what was the h what was that
when we were doing the picks.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
I think it was Washington, wasn't it, because we were
just saying it potentially could be a final How funny
that sounds now it could be potentially a final walk
card spot. Yeah. The uh this game that we're watching now,
the Thursday night game, it feels like both of these
teams are two and one, but I feel way better
about one of them than the other.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Oh yeah, well, I mean since Concrete Connor went out
like way to jinx my fantasy football player there, buddy.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, that doesn't that doesn't help their case whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Seahawks, I mean, what was it they said? Uh, they
stopped putting them on primetime now in home games because
they would just blow everybody out because they had such
an advantage at home.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
What back with the Legion of boom years.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, and you used to piss something off on Pete Carroll,
like Royally pissed them off.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
And I'm like, yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't I
guess I don't mind. If Pete Carroll is a little
hot under the collar, that's par for the course of
being at USC. No offense. Chris dule proud Trojan graduate
should mention the NL side of things. Too, because I
think they're way more exciting outside of the fact that

(32:21):
it's the Astros involved. For all you Astros fans out
there in the AL. In the NL, we have a
three team race for that final wild card spot, the Mets.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Because Cubs are already locked in.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
The Cubs are locked in, Yeah, the Padres. Everyone's locked
in on the NL side except for the final wildcard spot.
The Mets have a half game lead over the Reds.
Did you happen to see the catch earlier today that
the Reds outfielder had, So the Reds are it's two
to one, they're up two to one in the top

(32:54):
of the ninth, Yeah, one out runner on first or
runner on first or second runer on base, regardless, a
Reds outfielder straight snagged like video game stereotypical forearm above
the outfield walls, robbed a home run that would have
been a game leading.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Home run like the go ahead home run.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah, would have been the go ahead put the game
at three to two. Reds still would have had a
chance in the bottom of the ninth.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
But I'd like to see the Reds. I'd like to see.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
That's what I was going to ask you out of Mets,
Reds or technically the Diamondbacks fought hard as hell against
the Dodgers last night.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
One they're one and a half back. I mean, you'd
have to have a collapse of the other two teams.
So I think it's between just the Mets and the
Reds right now. I would I want to see that.
I want to see that young kid that was it,
Dela Cruz.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, ally, I.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Like to see him in the playoffs, see if he
steps up to the moment.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah, should mention the Yeah, the Diamondbacks have already lost today.
The Dodgers beat them eight to nothing, so that's where
that half game comes into play. And then Reds, like
I said, ended up winning today. Mets and Cubs are tied. No,
Mets are up eight to five in the seventh, so

(34:09):
it looks like if the Mets can hold onto that
their magic number will decrease by one. Between the Mets, Reds,
and Diamondbacks. I agree with you. I would. I wouldn't
mind seeing Ellie de la Cruz. I wouldn't mind seeing
young talent Hunter Green out there with Cincinnati. Obviously, Arizona,

(34:31):
you know what they can do if they can just
get into the playoffs, referencing two years ago where they're
the final wild card team make the run all the
way to the World Series. But all that being said,
not just to not just to make Walter Pass the
Creta happy, but I something I want to see the
biggest market like the Mets. I think would have the

(34:53):
best environment if it ended up being Mets, Dodgers or
you know, Mets like I don't want to see the
Brewers play the Reds. I don't want to see the
Brewers play the diamond Backs series. I don't disagree. It's
like Kansas City a couple of years.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
You just need this student last. You need the superstar
that they can promote. You got Dela Cruz and there's
your Bobby Witt junior, and you can promote the miz
and you know Yellow still so I mean, you can
promote those and then you.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Got but the Mets. You've got the Polar Bear, Pete Alonzo,
You've got Lindor, You've got yeah, they.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Everybody, of course two years ago and gave them all
the way back again.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Verlander was a Met. You know what, I'm full circle.
I don't want the Mets to be rewarded for just
out spending everybody. I want the Diamondbacks in there. Screw
Cincinnati there in the Midwest. Give me, give me Arizona
to keep fighting, hopefully to try to get that one
cool thing. One other cool thing you mentioned Aaron Judge

(36:02):
getting fifty home runs for the fourth straight season.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Now, not the fourth straight before, he has four. This
is the second straight season with fifty. Oh miss, and
he's got four all like four seasons with five with fifty. Yeah,
and only three other players have done that, which is.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Name them American League or any any league.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Bonds Yeah, oh no, actually, no, Bonds is not on
that list. Sosa, Sosa, McGuire, McGuire and Judge.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Oh and three others hold on, God, Sosa, McGuire, uh.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Griffy, No, Judge and Babe ruth ah God, like the
babe that's still Bonds is not even on that list.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, that doesn't make that crazy, right, that doesn't make
any So how many is.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Because he got walks so much? You know what, Judge
just surpassed the great Ted Williams for the most intentional
walks for the American League.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
I guess what number to I wouldn't even know where
to thirty five that's it.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
And Bonds used to get one hundred.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
That's what I was about to say, comparing you know what.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
I'm saying, it's like you got a seventy to one
hundred per season. Like they were walking them to load
the bases.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, I know, they'd walk a run in. There were
multiple times where he got walked, intentionally walked with the
bases loaded exactly like no, no, no, we'll just give up
a run instead of letting you hit. I gotta see
how because now you've tickled my brain unexpectedly. I got
to see how close with what Bonds was with baseball

(37:42):
fun facts. That's the best way with my best ask
the roommate. You want to brain, you want to stimulate me,
give me some baseball fun facts. So ninety three Bonds
had forty six home runs. These are his years where
he had at least forty ninety three, forty six, ninety
uh six, and ninety seven he had forty two and

(38:03):
forty respectively. But then he didn't top forty again until
the year two thousand when he moved to San Francisco, Right,
and that was well, it was that was still uh,
that was still that was like his year seven in
San Francisco. He had forty nine in two thousand and
then two thousand and one, seventy three, and then forty six,

(38:27):
forty five, forty five, Yeah, the rest of the way.
But just this, the intentional on BoNT had seventy three
home runs in his age thirty six year. What are
we even doing calling him the home run king, like
he didn't even have fifty four other seas, I don't
know that.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
He's the home I mean was steady. He was just steady,
thirty high thirty, Like he was a thirty thirty.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Player who took steroids for a five year run allegedly
and set.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Record with persion, of course, because.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Baseball was dying and they needed something to entertain the
people and the chicks dig the long ball.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
It just shows you how much steroids Sosa and Maguire
just were pounding. Yeah, yeah, yeah, did you see how
like all this was like in l It also shows
you how impressive a guy like Griffy was to keep
up as much as he did.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
During that era of hyper inflated home run numbers. Speaking
of Mariners, though, we did have other history made last night,
L Do you have that radio call I sent you Hey, thanks, James,
appreciate you. Maybe he goes by Hamas like the Colombian
soccer superstar.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Oh, I do not know, man.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
No, there's going to be a solid argument, Hayes. There's
going to be a solid argument among baseball riders of
how do we not give cal Rawley the m v
P even if we're if we're looking at.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Switch that switch that, how do we not give Judge
the mva Well, that's.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
From your perspective. I'm saying from the perspective of seeing
a catcher, a position that affects the play more than
anybody as a fielder.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
A guy who's not a top ten catch, he hit.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
He just set the record forty eight. He has forty
eight home runs, forty eight of his sixty now coming
in games where he was catching. That's five more than
the closest guy. Hovey Hovey Lopez back with the Braves,
He's carried the Mariners to their first Division title since
two thousand and one. Collapse, Sure, collaps, But I'm telling

(40:36):
you what do baseball writers love more than anything narratives.
They like to paint the picks. They romanticize the game,
romanticize the story. Romanticized the play guy dumpers, that's pretty
who's dropping watching He's dropping major.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
League, He's he's by position by position setting records. But
Judge is setting records in hole while playing a solid
right field and one of the best arms in the game.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
But MVP this year is not about So it's not
about Judges four years of fifty home runs. It's about Judges.
What fifty one now and Raleigh sixty?

Speaker 3 (41:21):
You've always got a flash in the pan with guys
who go like like crazy.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
I think absolutely is just that the longevity of Judge.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
So here's the numbers, real quick. The numbers War.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
I bet it's not. I haven't looked. Let me guess
war on the season.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Yeah for Raleigh seven and a.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Half, seven point two, Okay, I'm pretty decent at War.
For Judge, I would honestly say, like nine nine point three. Yeah, okay,
all right?

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Games played one fifty five for Raleigh, one eight for Judge.
He has more games play, Yeah, but that's a push
play appearances six eighty seven versus six sixty two, hits
one forty four to one seventy three. He's gonna win
the batting title this year for all the League. He's
the best judge, He's the best hitter in the Holy League.
Cal Raley's average is below two fifty I believe exactly. Yeah,

(42:17):
I'm with you, and a home run sixty for fifty one.
But Judge got intentionally walked three times this game today already.
So there, which I just said, he's getting intentionally walked.
He broke the record for the American League. Raley's not
getting intentionally walked. Then you got RBIs. Raley's got him
one to twenty five to one oh nine, stolen bases

(42:37):
fourteen to twelve, batting average two forty eight to three
twenty eight, which has now bumped up to three thirty
for this game. On base percentage three sixty one to
four fifty five, slugging five ninety eight to six eighty one,
OPS nine fifty nine to one point one three six,

(43:00):
and OPS one seventy two to two thirteen. Yeah, those
are astronomical numbers, man.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
I don't disagree.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
And let's add the narrative of no one's had a
beginning season ever like him, he had to go through
a major slump to win a batting title like I
still lead the league in six other freaking stats.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
All of the numbers are on your side, But what
are baseball players notori They wouldn't give Mariano Rivera a
unanimous Oh yeah, he's the only one. Oh yeah, that's right.
Yeah it was a Boston writer of course, of course.
But that's what they're baseball writers. That's what they do.
They look at all of those stats you just said

(43:44):
and said, no, no, I like my narrative better, and
my narrative is gonna be that cal Rawley just became
the what fourth player in Ale history to hit sixty
home runs?

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Somebody on like Yankees Twitter put out like one of
the wives's uh friends with one of the right and
the he's like from the writer's consensus. They're all saying, judge.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
So I'm curious. I'm curious. It's I will give you this.
It should be Obviously I agree with you. I think
judges the more deserving. But I don't put it past
baseball riders to say, well, you know, cal Rawley just
hits sixty home runs.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Now, Kyle Ray gets that sixty third home run this
game over, Okay, so that's a record. Sure, that's a record,
but also the I mean right now, so if he
gets the record I can see.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Over that is the overall record that you say would
put him over the top. Okay, well, last night this
is what as long with my Rangers falling out of it.
I gotta admit I played a lot of King Griffy
junior baseball growing up, Like the Mariners have always been.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Yeah, they were always a safety.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
It was great. J. J. Buner, Edgar Young, a Rod
a Rod Jong Griffy.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
The King, the pitcher, John Olarude as well, Randy Johnson.
What was it, no, the.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
He recently, Oh, King Felix, King Felix, Y Felix was
a beast. So Dan Wilson is their manager. He was
the catcher in two thousand and one, the last time
they won the division. Edgar Martinez is the hitting coach.
Obviously we know how big of a role he played
in that division championship. In one something about seeing those

(45:32):
two guys in the dugout managing the Mariners, and the
scene there last night, as cal Rawly had already hit
his fifty ninth home run early in the game, he
ends up smashing his sixtieth home run as the crowd
I won't even run it because if you haven't heard
this it is. Look, you're gonna have to deal with it,

(45:56):
because I'm dealing with it because this is the team
that is winning the division and keeping my Rangers out
of the playoffs. You have this LG.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
Forty thousand channing MVP.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Got a little off on their chanting man.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Yeah climb on a right down. Yeah, pretty awesome. You know,
if it wasn't rainy last night, they were channing MVP
pretty ferociously when Judge hit his fifty in a home
run two games ago. Uh, yesterday, that's crazy that yesterday

(46:39):
both got.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
It's pretty sid It was a good it was a
good uh, a good night for the MVP argument because
it feels like they get.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
An MVP a nicknamed Big Dunker.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Oh, I think that dunk truck. He's caring. I think
if anything, they got to try to see this is
twenty thous Look, I agree, I agree, But you know
what it kind of like when you kind of like
when you argue momentum being a something that actually affects
the outcome.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Of games the city.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
I believe stupid crap like that amongst the players, like
when the Rangers used to do the antlers and stupid
stuff like we had Kevin Polar, who started the year
with the Rangers before he retired after they released him,
openly talking about how the Rangers had no locker room culture.
The guys didn't talk to each other. A lot of

(47:32):
the dudes warmed up and did their routine, their own
routine by themselves. Corey Seeger, No no cohes, nothing that
binded the team, Like when they won the World Series,
Hedgy hedges, the backup the third catcher was putting the
number of wins they needed until the World Series on
his butt, on his ass after each game, and they're like,

(47:53):
just stupid baseball, stupid like that. You're with these guys
two thirds of the year, playing one hundred and sixty
one hundred and eighty games. If you make the World Series,
you need you need stupid things like the home run,
tried it and stuff like that. And it's hard to
argue against the results because that stadium was wild last
night as he was hitting number number six.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
I mean, you can do something like the Yankees have that. Hey, hey,
he's like running around almost like a soccer type thing.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Look at college football. Run at dlnt's doing the stone
Cold celebration with liquid death. Ole miss has the turnover
slam dunk, the turnover hoop where Lane Kiffin was throwing
an alley oop to a player last Saturday.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
All it's all for the gram for the like kind
of like you're.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Saying the falsehood of momentum. I think the falsehood of
team morale. Stuff like this. It does.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Actually you don't think that Channing in that momentum behind
him when he's up at bat and when the MVP.
I think it gets to the juice them a little bit.
And I think it's like charge.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
I think it gets to the picture and probably causes
him to miss his location like he did. Yeah, and
also gets to cal Rawley to think, oh man, I'm
about to put I'm about to put the piss. It
hit the piss out of this ball, you know.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
I'll tell you the lawn. The biggest uh, what was it?
It was Game five twenty thirteen with the Spurs when
we we end up losing that year. But it was
with the when they changed the last two three two
format they had, which they changed because of us. Uh.
Genobli went off in Game five and I've never heard

(49:34):
a stadium or a center or anything loud. The vibration,
just everything shaking. That was like it is like you
just felt like an outer body experience, like all chills
all the right, still get chills thinking about it. You
know what I'm saying. It's like that would have been
a great place to be. You know, Like again that

(49:55):
stadium sounds loud.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Yeah, it's uh in a fan base, you know, the Marigny.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Is that cold. They're up there in Seattle that just.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Only possibly right on the water. They've only won the
AO West ninety five, ninety seven, two thousand and one,
and now twenty twenty five. So they've waited twenty four
years to get that division back in that division banner
back in Seattle. That's all time HM with AO West.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
Oh so they were like what they before? Were they?
You know?

Speaker 2 (50:28):
No, they were what were they before? I mean they've
been AO West for.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Most of those Rangers is dominated for years. Then athletics dominated.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Really again like we talked about the other night, Remember
the Astros have won this division like eleven out of
the last twelve years they have been it's been their division.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
They have passed the flag.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Yeah, well we'll see how long that actually lasts. Did
you see the kid who caught that sixtieth home run
ended up giving it to a kid out there in
the stands. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Yeah, oh man, I'm dad. I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna
need that back. Yeah it was.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
It was a grown man that.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Roley needs to get me about fifty K for this ball.
I'm not gonna juice them too much, but fifty hundred
K for the sixtieth home run ball for you.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
That only seems I'll take that. Yeah, that only seems fair.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
I'm not gonna be like the guy who's like, i
want one point five million dollars. I'm gonna put it
up for auction, and like, I'm not gonna be that guy.
You know, I don't know if we're talking, I'm juicing
them a little bit.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
If it's like record record breaking home run, that's gotta
be catch I'm holding out for. I'm holding here.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Ye hell yeah, you're like, this is my requirement.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Like, I brother, I know how much you're signed for
for the next five years. Like, I'm not asking for
a lot, you know, percentage wise, Just give me a
little bit of that. Uh. By the time we get
in here next Tuesday, the season will be over.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Yeah right, yeah, but five years. Uh, well, the baseball
the season. Yeah, so the next time we got because
there's only that's it. Yeah, that's it. So Tuesday we
will be in wow, what do they even call those?
It's like wow, like wild card playing playing.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Playoffs basically, uh.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Playing playoffs.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
But we will at least know the matchups and know
exactly who has and hasn't made it.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
The Dodgers actually, all right, they had they're in the
play in playoffs.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Yeah, they're throwing Kershaw and uh what's his name out
in the bullpen last night. Yeah. They their other their
other starting pitcher, they've got they got seven yeah, exactly.
And they not only do they have all this a
lot of starters, but they also Japanese star Yamamoto Sasaki.

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Yeah it was rookie Sasaki.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Who was that just being like severely racist? No, I
think that's their other star.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
You know, the the Asian players love to play on
the West Coast. Yes, apologize, you want to market market
Here we go, let's get into some cow notes as
we shift gears, get into some football talk. Uh. You
mentioned well starting with this is going to be one
of the games we pick. If you remember, we're picking

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five games a week now and after week one, you
were up three to two. You got three out of
five correct, I got two out of five. Of course,
we'll pick Cowboys each week, We'll pick Niners each week.
We'll pick the game of the week each week or
the best two games. And then last week we had
the roommate pick a number. This week we'll have LG

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pick a number and that'll be our fifth game. Uh.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
So LG are now my roommate.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
With that big Yeah, that's actually you always be so cute.
We'll be so cute together, such a.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Such a.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
I'm the big spoon, such a such a bear and
cub relationship. Uh, Cowboys six and a half point dogs
at home and that might not even be big enough.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Yeah, they're gonna get routed. No, Like I always like
to like think these are like to catch him games?
Like how I maybe if Chicago, like everybody thought, Cowboys,
we're gonna go up there and put it on Caleb Williams.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Maybe if Green Bay hadn't lost to Cleveland last week,
I might be able to talk myself into Mike.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Is just gonna he's gonna break Dak's other legue.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Dude, So Micah did say it's gonna he Basically, Micah went, basically,
it's gonna hurt me more than it hurts you talking
about how it's like, I don't want to have to
do it, but you know if I, if I get
to Dak, I gotta take him down. It's gonna be weird.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
You know he's gonna love it.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Yeah, I think so too.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
That's been one to take him down for years.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Yeah, I smiled. Hard to argue, hard to argue that
you're wrong there. You mentioned Tuesday night we were talking
about how Dak ranks. You know, how he stacks up
now compared to where he was going into last week's
game with the what do we call it the adjusted

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EPA and PFF rating. Basically, all it is is how
well the quarterback is performing taking away the pressure and
grading location and accuracy of where the ball. This is

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how weird this season has been already. So Dak fell
from number one to number two on that list now
after last week. But do you want to take a
guess who number one and number three are?

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Baker number one nope, number three nope. But he's leading
in this but he's not.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
It's not an efficient it's uh, Daniel Jones number one
Daniel Jones number three, number three.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
All right, so number one I'm gonna go with. I
know it's gonna be something tricky.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
It is. It absolutely is Herbert. Uh No, he is
actually playing on this TV screen right to the right
of us. Well it's Sam Donald, Sam Donald, Sam Donald Donald. Yeah,
so it's Donald dak Indiana Joe.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
This is why I don't like the Just kill those stats,
get another, get another source. They're very I mean, another source.
But again it's these starbage so hold on garbage stats.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
So these stats are taking into account where if a ball.
If you're so let's just say, okay, let's look at
the account, let's look at completion percentage. Well, then you're
not calculating for the fact that the quarterback literally threw
it right to the dude's hands and he dropped it.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
The speed of the ball, like if you need to
put a little bit more, not throw a fastball when
he needs to throw.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Now, it's all placement based place all yeah, it's not.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
So it does. So if you're throwing an out route
to a running back that doesn't have the best of hands,
and you throw a ninety out like a seventeen mile
an hour football at him. That's horrible quarterback play. But
even though you put it on him, that's too fast.
You need to put like a forty mile an hour, Like.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
That's fair, that's fair. Yeah, if you're blasting a dude
like Uncle Rico, then you probably should have that count
against you if you're looking like Arch Manning. So this
is it's adjusted for past protection, receiver drops, dropped interceptions,
so meaning it would count it as it should have
been an interception, fumble recoveries, interception returns, and it gives

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credit for expected yards after the catch. Only what about
and accounting for defense is defense? Face?

Speaker 3 (58:03):
Wrong route running? I mean I saw Lamar just lose
his crap.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
So that's a funny one.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Was like that dude, like what was it? Just ran
a completely different route like Zay Flowers or something.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
That's a funny one because Lamar is number eleven on
this list because he's taken so many sacks, which again,
if you guys seven sacks, your guy's running the wrong route.
All of a sudden, your drop back is thrown off
and you're not you know, you're out of rhythm. But
just for the weirdness of this year so far, I

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will tell you there's another outlier in the top six
because after his one game played as the starter, Tyrod
Taylor is number six on this list. So don't take
it as don't take it as the gospel whatsoever, but
it does give you an idea.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
What is Russell Wilson on that list?

Speaker 2 (58:56):
So funny you ask, even though Russ threw for four
hundred and fifty yards against the Cowboys, he is only
eighteenth on this line of.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Course, because like that's something I was, oh, like, I
wasn't gonna use it for like both.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
And Caleb Williams, who just lit up the Cowboys as well,
he's only sixteenth on this list. The rest of it
is pretty uh you can you can? You asked Baker
Baker's eighth, Jordan Love seventh through the Cowboys going up
against Sunday Night.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
So you got here's Russell Wilson's stats Week one, one
hundred and sixty eight yards, zero tds. Week two four
hundred and fifty yards, three tds. Oh well revival Week
three one hundred and sixty yards and zero tds.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Oh in Week four, who is it going up against?
He's going against that bench. Oh yeah, he's holding the
board bitch, baby. Yeah, look, there is we can start
with that. At least there is some hope of personnel
improvements Sunday night that weren't available last week. We have. Surprisingly,

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Trayvon Diggs didn't practice yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
I don't think I don't think he wants to play
in this game.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
See okay, and I I was looking at I went
back and looked at a bunch of his grades from
this last game in Chicago. Outside of the misplay on
the jam and the slip where it gives up the touchdown,
they didn't target him a whole lot after that because
they could just target kyer Elam on the other side.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
It's like people start targeting up to the stout and
exactly like they're not going against the Deependor Lenor Illonoris,
DeAndre Leonore, like I'm butchering his first name.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
I will give Diggs credit, though, because he he actually
hurt himself making a tackle, which is not something we
normally see him, uh seeking contact, And you know, grade wise,
he wasn't bad the rest of that game. It was
the one misplay that unfortunately is a big, you know,
give up a touchdown type of mistake. But he didn't

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practice yesterday. Today was a full participant though, so it
looks like it was weird because all of a sudden
he hit the injured list yesterday with a knee injury, misspractice,
but now is back full participant. The more important one,
I would say, if you have Digs available healthy.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
They also got Deron Bland who practiced yesterday for the
first time. He was limited, but today was a full participant,
so it does he's expected to play that. It does
look like you're gonna have Bland and Digs, both your
top corners available, And.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
It looks like they're still not going to have wis
not Wicks, but they're not gonna have one of their
top people that went out with a dislocated shoulder.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
The Packers.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Yeah, it was like there was one of the three.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Well more, the most important name I saw is their
starting tackle, Zach Tom He's gonna miss the game again,
which granted, we saw the Cowboys go up against a
third string tackle with the Giants and couldn't get pressure.
We saw them go up against the Bears offensive line
and get even less pressure.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
So I'm taking Josh Jacobs for one hundred and fifty
yards and two tuddies see.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Okay, that's a good question too, because the Cowboys haven't everyone.
It feels like there's been a rush to say, oh,
but they actually they they have been stopping the run,
and I think there's some balance here of they're doing
well at stopping the run. They're like barely top ten
in the league. But is it more a factor of

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teams knowing we can just attack them through the air, Yeah,
and not have to worry about them getting pressure getting
to our quarterback. So we're not We're just choosing not
to rely on the run game.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Besides Week one, and I even though Saquon Barkley is
one of the top tier, it was the first game.
He didn't play any through the preseason, you know, so
that was his first game, and he didn't have he
didn't have like an overly horrible game, but he didn't
have like one hundred and fifty yards on him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
But then you don't even think he had an average game.
I mean he was real quiet. Yeah, but I think
I give that that's his first game. That was the
startup game, you know, because he had no practice, he
had no reps, and the Eagles offense was in a
funk for the first two and a half games. They
didn't feel like they they didn't have rhythm.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
So the next game is Giants with Tracy and Scattaboo.
Skattaboo didn't get the ball that much, and then you
got Chicago with Swift. They're not going against a banger
of I put Josh Jacobs as a top five runner.
He run the rushing title two years, three years ago,

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he uh, what was it? In the last four years,
he's top three in yards and touchdowns with Henry and
like a mccaffe not maybe not a McCaffrey, but like
one of the other big names.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
I think the question to me will be what is
the Packers' chosen plan of attack? Because if they do,
there is an argument to be made if you run,
if you run heavy, that sure it might it definitely
it was gonna wear down the Cowboys defense. But it
also if the Cowboys defense has any strength right now,

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that's playing into their strength. And not only that, it's
also slowing the game down. So the Cowboys are backtrack on.
The Cowboys are looking at the only way right now
they can win is if they have ten, twelve, thirteen
play drives and they actually are running the ball well
with Javonte Williams and they are down CD, who's not

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going to be available.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
It would be a better strategy to go up fast
to make Dak have to pass the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
That would be that would be what I thought. It
can let the and then second half.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
I'm retreating on that because Jordan Love didn't have a
good game, so we want to get him a good game.
But Josh especially, he probably can. Yeah, Josh Jacs didn't
have a good game. So it's like, I think it's
gonna be a very bounds attack, but I think they're
going to look to score fast, so there will be big.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Plays, especially with the emotions of the Micah return. And
it's it's you know, the Packer Packers Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
Is always look for turnovers, man, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Yeah, well see, and that's if the Cowboys turn the
ball over at all, they let's.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Win the Cowboys turn the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Let's talk about the fact that they have they're six
and a half point dogs for a reason. So saying
something like at home.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
At home in a prime time that's nine and a
half point.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
That's correct. Yeah, that's that's what that would tell you.
The Packers in games at at and T Stadium, so
we're counting the route. So it's three regular season games
in the stadium against the Cowboys, two postseason games in
the stadium against the Cowboys, and the Super Bowl that

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they won in the stadium when Mike McCarthy was the
head coach. Six games in Cowboys stadium. They're six and zero.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Yeah. Yeah, Now I was about to say that giants sly.
I was like, I know, the Packers had like a
great record and they always stomp on the Cowboys at
the New Jerry World.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Now I did mention the injury. The Packers have fourteen
dudes on their injury report right now.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
Oh, well, they're taking the page from the Niners.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
They're not necessarily all going to miss the game. The
biggest name is the right tackle. I mentioned who's who's
most likely out, but they are banged up. We talked
about the metric of yeah, I wish we could have
more research on what happens to a team when they

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play a physical team the week before, because that Cleveland's
a joke. Joe Flacco forty year old starting quarterback, but
Jim Schwartz and that defense are barely giving up over
two hundred yards a game and their physical as hell
and Miles Garrett absolutely abused the Packers physically last week

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along with the rest of that defense. So again, fourteen
guys are on the injury report because they just got
their ass beat on the scoreboard and physically against Cleveland.
If you're hoping, if you're grasping at any signs of host.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
Chicago beat them up like the touchdowns, Yeah, I mean
it was a lot of But that's where you know,
looking at potentially, what does jadeveon Clowney due to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
The Cowboys past rush if the fact that you're bringing
in a guy off the street to play in a
game and what are week four? Yeah, and he might
be your best pass rusher you have on the roster.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
So he's gonna suit up this game for the Cowboy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
It looks like he is set to make his debut. Yeah,
he's gonna wear number forty two, which is unstable for Yeah, what.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
Was that as like pee wee football numbers?

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
I think there were like two other numbers that he wanted,
but he couldn't convince the guy, like he couldn't change. Yeah,
so he went at his interview, he mentioned he said
he did it in honor of Jackie Robinson actually wrong,
sport buddy, or he might have just forty two might
have been the last number available, and then he was like, oh, okay, Jack,
you're out. Uh yeah, I mean I it really it

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really seems like, uh, there's not there. The problems they
have on defense aren't fixable by bringing in guys off
the street in week four. Now, the problems they have
are going to require either development from the young guys
that they currently have or uh, some kind.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
Of better Pickens. Get them on the same page.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Yeah, Dak and Pickens. Dez and Pickens already are on
the same day. I feel like they were born on
the same page, just watching Pickens through three games and
going back to Pittsburgh. But I six and a half,
I don't I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
Yeah, let me let me guess we're both taking Green
Bay on this. Are you going look at your fan
that's at six and a half points.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
I get it's not fandom, and I'll tell you why.
So point your AI Overlords ran a thousand simulations of
this game, and sixty percent of the time it came
back twenty four to twenty one. Hey, as an idiot,
I don't disagree.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
You ain't getting me AI.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
But the Dallas Cowboys have played eighty three times on
Sunday Night Football, the most of any team. It is
when they shine, it's when they tend to Actually, it's
when they tend to get your hopes up. Is what happens.
They have a no CD play up big for the.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
Mid time line.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Yep, yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
Chavante Williams actually going against like we saw what happened
when he went against a solid defense.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Yep. But I was told Michah Parsons can't stop the run,
so I'm not worried about that. Javonte Williams will run
all over Micah because Micah can't stop the run. That's
why we traded him, right, Jerry, That's what I was told.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
What was it though? I guess you still got the trade?
Uh your defensive tackle.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Yeah, Kenny Clark's been solid, and it's the Kenny Clark. Uh.
It's the Kenny Clark game, not the Micah game. That's
how I think that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
I think they're gonna know how to There's no way
they're gonna like Cowboys are going to scheme for Micah.
But I think Green Bay can know how to scheme
for of.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Course, there is no scheming for Kenny just literally is
uh yeah, he's blocking block him like he's a push him,
by the way, not a pass rushing defensive tackle. If
you can just move him off his block a little bit,
we're fine. Uh. It sounds like you are solidly taking
Packers minus six and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
And that hurts because some of some of the people
that annoy me the most are Packer fans. There's a
second on.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
My list behind Dallas.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
I figured, I uh my, my my brain is telling
me there got to.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
Get one up on me. Man. You can't just be
picking with me all, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
You see, the Cowboys aren't giving Mike a tribute video,
which I kind of agree with.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
He's only twenty six. Yeah, he's not going to.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Be the ring honor, yeh. Michael Parson, Michael Parson will
never be in my my ring of honor because it's
not the Cowboy ring of honor, it's Jerry's ring of honor.
Oh buddy, I just don't. I mean six and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
That's two field goals and you still win.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
I know, like twenty seven to twenty six or twenty
seven twenty one. I mean yeah, that doesn't sound too
far off.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
Make this choice, buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Can the Cowboys score three touchdowns though they didn't do
that against Chicago.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
And they look this, that's like cowboy hope. That's that,
that's that, that's the nectar of the gods for me.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
I gotta ride riding.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
He's riding Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Cowboys with Boys six and a half at home.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
Nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Nobody covers the spread better than the Cowboys at home
on Sunday Night football.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
Nobody, nobody, They nobody, They don't like, they don't get blown.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
Out unless it's Eli Manning across the line of scrimmage.
You want to jump into Niners.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
Yeah, we will have one brock Daniel Purty back, so
for sure, for sure he's practicing. He was a game
time decision last week.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
Yeah I saw that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
Yeah, but like he will be playing. And we will
have Juwan Jennings. We have Ricky Piersall, who is number
one in two categories. Okay, with all receivers.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Returning in season after getting shot through the chest.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
Well, that's just that's just a legend.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
That's pretty bad. We don't talk about that enough.

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
The legend.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
We really don't, but we really don't.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
But no, the yards catch through the air and uh oh,
how the percent the lowest percentage catches the ones that
he's not supposed to be heard. Yeah, so he's number
one in the league. Thanks, So he catches the hardest passes,
thinking back to his Florida days when he had an

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ass quarterback one handy catch. So McCaffrey's he's running like,
you know, like twenty twenty three McCaffrey. So we're going
against who are we going?

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
You're three and a half point favorites.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
At home versus dude, I had it Jacksonville. That's right, me,
Me and my buddy Gary. I don't see Etn doing work.
I see Brian Thomas Junior getting covered by the Leonore

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shut down. I see upton Stout getting targeted. This might
be a game where Travis Hunter gets up some touches.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Upton Stout just sounds like a name of an author
that was required reading sophomore year of high school. Yeah right,
it sounds very I guess up to just.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
Seeing him every yea as he as he sits there
and does like complaints like that was fears, like, yeah,
man grabbed him, dude. I think he's burned or something.
Like that. But we got d Winters playing like green
law Fred Warners that man best of one of the
best to ever do it. But we lost lost Nick Bosa,

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Mikhail Williams. Still going with Niners. I still go with
Niners at home. That's Niners all day. I kind of
I just think, I think it's gonna be a high
scoring game.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
I kind of was surprised this number was only Niners
three and a half at home.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
Was because Bosa's out. Bosa, like I said, like, what
was it in the four years that Bosa's played with
or like, what was it in like the four or
five years four years he's played He's been out for
two years with acls and stuff like that. He has
sixty and a half or like, what was it sixty

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two and a half sacks?

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
That sounds good, that feels like that's a good number.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
You want to know what the next highest one on
that on our team, the rest of anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
One combined is sixty and a half. Okay, Yeah, So
he has more sacks himself and more pressures than all
the rest of the team combine, anybody throughout the history
that's gone and left. So I was curious. I was
looking up whether the line moved, because when you said
Purdy is for sure playing, yeah, I thought maybe the

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line had drastically changed because when it came out there,
he was obviously questionable. It's still only opened niners minus
four and a half, and it's only it's down to
three and a half. I bet that number creeps down
to three by kickoff Sunday because especially as perty gets.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
If they think he's gonna have some rust on him,
I think he's a Jwan Jennings is going to be there.
He wasn't there last game. He's They're not Like their
first game, they planned for Kittle for like thirty percent
of their offense and he went out early. So I
think they're going to game plan with Pearce all and

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McCaffrey's gonna do what McCaffrey does.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Yeah, I just I don't get the respect for Jacksonville here.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
What is they They had a great game last week.
They had a great game last week?

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
Which one was that?

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
Didn't they they? Oh they barely won, Like yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
They beat the winless Texans seventeen to ten division game.

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
But yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
I don't get the Jacksonville love here.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
It's the week before that, they I thought they put
thirty up on somebody. Yeah, No, I think I think
they're maybe trying to think it's gonna be a breakout game.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
So they beat Jacksonville, beat Carolina in Week one twenty
six to ten. Lost in Cincinnati, the game where Burrow
got hurt and then Browning came in, and they lose
that game thirty one to twenty seven. Why are they
giving us three and a half, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
I mean, that's crazy, man, that one. We will always
be underdogs. It's crazy. We were like, we're not the
teams you want to see in the playoffs, but we're
not gonna bet. We're not gonna bet against them. We're
not gonna bet with them, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Like,
I don't know how many times I've heard that going
into the playoffs with us and we end up in
the NFC Championship or the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
Here's the only problem I have right now. I followed
your lead last week when they were two and a
half point favorites against the Jets. No, not against the
against the Cards. Yeah, and they won that game by
one point. Jacksonville might be better than Arizona. You didn't

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have party, I understand.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
But we beat like we beat ourselves, and we had
a Gimpie mac Jones.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
We didn't have Jewong Jenny's. We only had Pierce aw
This feels like a game, y'all. Might you win by
three points and don't cover? Yeah, I'm trying to talk
myself into going against you on this one too, because well,
because here's the deal. I feel like my Cowboys one
is already a loss. But but I'm taking a chance.
I'm risking it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
You gotta double down, then, baby, you gotta double down.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Look, if Vegas is telling me you take the split
on the black Jack Jacksonville only three and a half.
If this number, if it had if it was still
the four and a half, it opened up.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
Yeah, I probably go Jacksonville. But I can't. I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
I gotta. I gotta follow your lead and take I think.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
I mean, we beat ourselves with penalties galore last game.
I mean the safety because.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
We held and yeah, that was a bad you held.
You held on the goal on the one yard line,
and if you had just held on to him there
and taken him down, you wouldn't have needed to hold
again in the end zone. The guys exactly if you're
going to hold the first time, do it while you're
still out of the end zone before you have to
hold again to save Mac.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
Even if it's a squeaker, the Niners are gonna win.
But it's if they cover. Yeah, it's that's the I
think maybe is the last second field goal? Is what that?
I think their Vegas is thinking that's.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
A thousand, That's what That's what scares me. But I'm
following your lead. If if the if the Niners, if
we lose this again, I might reconsider.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
Like like to get my blood pressure up.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
They feel like a team that wins a lot of
games but doesn't cover a lot of spreads.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
How was the Yankees?

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
They just squeak by dude just enough.

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
Not so much this year, but like I remember, what
was it last year? It was just so many games
we had to come back or like we're just barely
doing it. But like this year is just our bullpen
just letting eight runs go and it was like it's
a blowout after the seventh in.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Yeah, that's a hard way to win baseball games. So
we so far. You took Packers, I took Cowboys. We
both took Niners the game of the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
James, you're killing me. He goes put a Cowboys out
on them when we beat ourselves, saying, I'm like, that's
what the cowboys say. No, the cowboys just suck me.
We were actually good.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
Jerry Jones beats the Cowboys, so in that way, they
do beat theirselves.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
I put on Jerry Jones wig. Yeah, like we beat
ourselves this week, but we still won. That's all. That's
the difference. We won, but we could have beat ourselves.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
Minor detail. Game of the week I think is it's
pretty clear to me which one it is. Eagles undefeated
Eagles at undefeated Bucks.

Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
Woo.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
You want to take a guess on this line?

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
Oh, wh what's the home team?

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
Because I did I know you haven't seen it unless
you saw it somewhere else because I don't look at
lines and you don't look at the run sheet. Oh yeah, LG,
did you get the run sheet today? I know, LG?
You got it though, right, yeah, got it? You know
what segment? What's coming up? What videos to have ready?
What we're gonna I like to talk about next?

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
Like, did not know what's coming up? Well?

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
Where is it at at Tampa Bay at Tampa take
a guess, Tampa one and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
No, no, they still got the Eagles winning.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
Dude, they're giving Baker Mayfield three and a half points
at home. It is Eagles minus three and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
That defense is good. Tampa's defense is not. Some of
the joke about it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
Tell me why Tampa isn't the second best team in
the NFC so far.

Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
Oh, Baker's just gonna he's he's loving.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
You know, you just gave He gave Baker a field
goal in a half some night at home against a
team that he's already going to be hyped to go
up against. A potential statement early season looked.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
Good last week.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
They finally opened things up. Second half of that game
last week started looking more like the Eagles that we know. Yeah,
although Videve is a hard person to try to, you know,
put up yards against. And then that whole Tampa Bay

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defensive front.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
Now I think Mike Evans might be.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
Out hamstring again. God Win, full participant, full participant first game.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
And then you got the young buck you boo.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
Them, Buka, I suck yeah again. Don't go full lou Dobbs.
Don't go slow because that's how you get yourself into trouble.
Uh yeah, I saw Evans, my Evans. Now it's seven
straight seasons with hamstring injury. Just brutal.

Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
Gets a thousand. It's even more impressive. Now, man, what's
up with this hand? News Man? Do some yoga.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
I think when you're six five and built like a
tight end but can run like a wide receiver.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
I get it. Man, I'm six five. My hamstrings hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
Yeah, but you and I are. Yeah, come on, come on,
I'm built like an offensive analyst up in the damn.
I know it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
I want to I want to just be a great
want to hiccup pick the bucks, you know, But I
I'm thinking, you know, like why do they have them?
Like it's a home game for them.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
If it makes any difference to you, it is a
noon kickoff?

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
Uh no, because both these coast teams.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
Yeah, it doesn't matter a whole lot.

Speaker 3 (01:24:51):
Yeah, so it seems also.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
Going to be the heat of the Tampa Bay weather
kickoff right at noon.

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
Baker's used to the heat.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
The home kid Eagles might not Texas kids. Eagles haven't traveled.

Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
Yeah, and Eagles are full healthy though, right or any
key injuries.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
Off the top of my head, I don't think so.
I can't think of any big, big ones if there is. Uh.
They apologized to l and show Eagles fans.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
Yeah, do you know if any injuries there, LG or
do you even keep up with.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
Your No, they've you know, outside of Zach Bond being questionable,
there's not a whole lot. Jack Campbell questionable.

Speaker 3 (01:25:39):
Man. I went against the Eagles last week.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
Should know that's j Campbell, Jack cam.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
I went against them, should have won, and I'm going
to go against them again.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
Oh that's right, we should refresh this was This was the.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
Block field goal to the big man running in a touchdown,
screwing my points.

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
And that game was in Philly at the link. So
the Eagles were three and a half point favorites at
home last week against the Rams, and now they're three
and a half point favorites on the road against Tampa.
Vegas loves La a lot more than they love Tampa.
That's something to think about. I don't know, as Brent

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Musburger would say, some folks out there in the desert
might have something to say about that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
Yeah, they definitely had some West Coast bias. It seems like.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
Kind of seems like it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
It feels like massive disrespect to Tampa.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
And I think Baker's gonna eat that up.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
That's who what quarterback? He thrives more.

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
I'm at home and you're not giving me the three,
Like you're basically saying I'm a six and a half
point doc on a neutral you know, on a neutral field,
Like they're gonna beat me by a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
Yeah, I don't. I don't see that one.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
But they did the tush push as many times they
like how many times they do it last week, they
didn't shy away from it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
No, and uh again, they didn't get flagged for anything,
while other teams, as.

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
They clearly shown and replaced the guard shooting off early.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
Yeah, and I saw a bunch of people rushing to
be like, well, everything looks like when it's in when
it's in slow motion, it's like no, no, no, you can
tell that's a penalty. You can tell they're firing early
real time. Like the slow motion just makes it even worse.
It's like a three and a half Philly minus three
and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
It's like a teenage kid at a swimsuit contest. I'm
going Tampa. I think you got to Tampa. I want
some Baker taking the points. Give me some Baker, dude, Like,
it's not like Philly's defense has been all that good.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
No, and man again, I just don't think the Eagles
aren't good enough to be more than a field goal
favorite on the road this early in the season.

Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
I they haven't had any signature wins. They barely beat
the Cowboys, they barely beat they should have lost against
the Rams. Who is the week two guy matchup?

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
I think I got it right here. It was? Oh
that was that was the Super Bowl rematch? Beat the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
Yeah, they barely beat the Chiefs. So like, where's the blowouts? No?

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
No, In fact, have they not all been.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
One score games?

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:28:33):
Yeah, Cowboys them and last week? But that was like
that was a loss until still a one score game
though it was on they only won by seven. Yeah.
So yeah, give me Tampa.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Bucks plus the points. I see. I'm I'm hoping we disagree.
I thought this would be one that we would disagree on.
I thought I would easily be able to pocket the
points with Baker and have a split with you here.

Speaker 3 (01:28:58):
But I we both love Baker. Yeah, even though he's
OEU trash and you.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
Know tech exile as well, and the the the no
one believed in me, guy who went to one of
the biggest football powerhouse factories in the state of Texas
for Lake Travis over there in Austin, has always been
a underdog, even though I was the best at everything
I did. That's correct, Yeah, even though I was an
old state quarterback, even though yeah, yeah, so the other game,

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tell me if you want to pick a different one.
But I thought this would be a fun one to
pick before we ask LG.

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
Uh, what's the games in the contenders category?

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
So the only other the only other game that I
was even split on. Uh, regarding what should be the
game of the week, there's Ravens Chiefs, but they're both
one and two.

Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
Don't care, that's gonna be a great game.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
I hear you, I hear you. And then other one
Colts Rams Rams coming off the loss to the Eagles,
Colts undefeated. Yeah, those, let's just do both of those.
You want to just do both those? And screw LG.
He doesn't get to pick a number, OLG.

Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
You want to pick a number? Do you give it?
Do you give a crap? No? You don't give a crap.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
I think there's your answer. Yeah, I did the one
I was gonna suggest. It wasn't gonna be a fun
one to pick, but it's kind of a it's a
historic matchup. We have the first we have an eight
thirty am game Sunday morning across the ponds, the first
game ever Dublin Dublin Ireland, first regular season game ever

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in Ireland. Vikings at Steelers, Vikings two and a half
point favorite. Okay, well then we'll take that one off
the list. Well, then you want to jump into Ravens.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
Chiefs, Ravens chiefs Lamar.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
Guess the line you get at Arrowhead at Arrowhead three
twenty five, Raven's one and a half, pretty close, Ravens
two and a half, two and a half. A lot
of respect for Baltimore on the road.

Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
I mean he doesn't have her she Rice Travis Kelsey
as we see what you might call it real real
Adam put it. He dropped the pass. They would Uh,
Kelsey's just been anger management. It seems like things might
be going too well with over in the Swifty household.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
He does look like a Swifty feuding with Ticketmaster every
time him and Andy Reid face off with each other
on the side of the Holmes.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
I mean until she Rice gets back. I mean, you
just got Patrick Force in the ball, Xavier Worthy back yet. Yeah,
Xavier Worthy is playing okay, but he's never shown to
step up to be that number one. In my eyes,
he's supposed to be. At the beginning of this year,
they gained planned with him for the first game until

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Kelsey took them out.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
We're eighteen games into his NFL career. Let's let's not
flush the baby with the bathwater there.

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
Yeah, Adams, right, Ravens d has not been good.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
Nope, it's been deceptive, and even the numbers that it
does have have been deceptive. Like the good the good
things you can point to with the Ravens defense, it's
it's hyper inflated.

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
So the Ravens lost against Buffalo and the lost against Detroit.
Got the Ravens just got out.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
It's a rough four game schedule. Well, and you could
argue the Chiefs four games schedule is just as hard,
if not harder, I guess outside of the Giants game,
but the Chiefs went say almost called him San Diego,
uh Chargers, but that was in Brazil. Yeah, then Super

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Bowl rematch with the Eagles, then they beat the Giants
last week.

Speaker 3 (01:32:51):
Yeah, oh, man, I gotta go with my man Lamar.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
Dude, Oh we might have a split here, are you locked?

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
I shouldn't have I shouldn't have given it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
I shouldn't have tipped my hand.

Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
Yeah no, no, I'm going with Lamar locking in rave
and I got him on my fantasy team. SOMBI room
for him anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
And you said that was Ravens minus one and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
Well, even though I feel like those rest flag the
rest are gonna put on those Chief jerseys again.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
Okay, they line is actually two and a half. I
just thought I could get you to agree with what.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
I still picked the Ravens. I think Derek Henry's pissed
that he's fumbled three times this year. He's gonna go
be smoke leading the league in fumbles, which is another one.
Help me out chat. Someone in a keeper league suggested
I trade Myleak Neighbors for Derrick Henry, and I'm like
leaning note on that one because it's a keeper and

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leak Neighbors is only in his second year and Henry,
you know, he's got about three or four more years
but he could be that man of Frank Gore that
stays playing until he's thirty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
That sounds to me without you know, with my fantasy expertise,
I have now as a.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
The general managers the owner slash general manager of an
undefeated fantasy football team.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
Oh God, that to me sounds like that sounds to
me like zev don't you. Don't you get too comfortable.
I could always Will McLay is replaceable. Let me just
remind you also, Will McClay. Those last four drafts haven't
been so hot, have they might need to get a
little change at the top. No, that to me would

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be an instant. Uh, you offend me with that trade offer.
There's no way I'm considering neighbors for Henry because it's
a keeper league.

Speaker 3 (01:34:38):
Yeah, because that, to me is the I was like,
But I'm like, I am desperate. I had John Connor.
So my running backs are Henderson, the rookie out of uh,
what's gonna call it New England. Who's getting out touched
by John Connor?

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
Is Sean Conners. You're meaning James Connor.

Speaker 3 (01:34:59):
It's John John Connor.

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
That's correct. As soon as you said that a couple
of times it just now finally, finally, Yeah, it took
a minute.

Speaker 3 (01:35:10):
I always say that at the draft. I'm like, give
me John Connor, like it's James Connor. I'm like, no,
he's John, is John. He kills terminator, it goes by,
goes by John, but not like what's you McCall like that.
I know we're bearing off, but I have Henderson and
then I have the backup now because Benson has been
playing for what you McCall, the Eagle for uh the

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Michio Dmitio whatever. Like he's just not who are you
trying to think of? He's a third string back. I
have no running backs.

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
How many years has Okay, here's a better question. How
many years into this keeper league are you?

Speaker 3 (01:35:50):
I've been playing this one probably like seven eight years.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
Okay, so there is. It's not like me whenever. Yeah, uh,
it's not like me when running that Madden franchise where
now I'm like seven eight years into it, I'm like, okay,
now let's start a new one.

Speaker 3 (01:36:06):
But I got so many like I have, like my
wide receivers are Jamison, Williams, Milk Neighbors, Goodwin, Godwin, Rashi Rice.
When he comes off like I might keep. Like that's
gonna be a top because I only you only get
to keep three people in this keeper league. It's not
like a dynasty.

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
See that's even more.

Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
I only have to do a she Rice orl Neighbors.

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
And that's an easy one. Mylik Neighbors not even close.

Speaker 3 (01:36:31):
Right, you got one of the best, one of the
best quarterbacks to ever do it, Jackson Dart. No oh,
Patrick Mahons.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
Oh that guy throw.

Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
Rice versus Jackson Dart. We'll see how that works out.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
But you know, I feel like Rashi Rice could he's
gonna do. He's six months away from leaving a Lamborghini
in the middle of a toll road. Again, like I
wouldn't trust Rashi with the keeper leagues, let's do. Let's

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lock in that last game for our picks here. So
Colts undefeated.

Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
Colts Lamars one and five against my home when the
season the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:37:12):
That means he's upset. It's in it's in ink. So
it's not changing. Undefeated Colts at two and one Rams Rams,
coming off the disappointing loss in Philly where they should
have kicked the game winning Rams at Rams.

Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
Let me guess the line Rams four and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
You're about a point off on all it's Rams minus
three and a half, three and a half. Actually they
putting some spect on his nap on the Danny Indiana Jones,
I think it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
I can't say dins where that's his New York.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
No, No, we're past Don Jones.

Speaker 3 (01:37:47):
Does the sequel match the original?

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
I'm telling you, eventually we're gonna get Kingdom of the
Crystal Skulls, and I think we I think that might
be debut Premier Los Angeles out in oh Man with
the points. I'm just it's my fandom not wanting to

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pick the Rams, sure because of the NFC West bias.
But John uh Taylor. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say,
Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
He's looking good.

Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
All the talk about the Colts has centered around the
career revival of Daniel Jones, Tyler Tyler Warren. Daniel Jones
isn't doing what he's doing if Jonathan Taylor is not.

Speaker 3 (01:38:36):
The play action is working perfectly, and it's.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
Such and and he's also catching the ball out of
the back.

Speaker 3 (01:38:42):
Danny is running. Yeah, he's flying down the sidelines, you
know what I'm saying. So it's like he.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
Always been an incredibly underrated runner runner. Yeah, as someone
who watched him way too much when he was at Duke.

Speaker 3 (01:38:57):
Three and a half. So how many or how many
we split on these? So right now you've only agreed
on one, right.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
We have agreed on two. We are split on two,
and we've agreed on.

Speaker 3 (01:39:08):
To So you get to pick first.

Speaker 2 (01:39:09):
You want me to go first?

Speaker 3 (01:39:10):
I picked first last night.

Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
I feel like the Colts are a facade eventually.

Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
Sure, maybe maybe not. We thought the facade with Sam
Donald last year.

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
And that might be what we're looking at. We might
be looking at a fourteen and three yeah Colts team
in a week division but not playing division. That's right.
And I think I think the Rams, specifically their pass rush,

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their edge rush, I think is going to be what
finally brings Daniel Jones back down to a more realistic
verse draw verse on one end and uh what's his
name on the other. They've been their past rush has been. Yeah,
I know they're I'm really really good this year.

Speaker 3 (01:40:05):
But I haven't heard any big injuries out of Indy.
Haven't heard any big injuries. I think there hasn't there
been some line injuries out of uh.

Speaker 2 (01:40:16):
Uh la, so uh the only Colts have a couple
of linemen questionable. But it doesn't it doesn't look like
anyone's uh anyone big big is.

Speaker 3 (01:40:34):
Here's my thing with the Rams. Besides the Eagles game,
where like they score, I mean they the Titans, they
barely beat the Texans. You know, are they starting to
get in the flow with with Puka? And you know
DeVante Adams has been eating.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
He's listed as questionable, by the way, but he's I
think he is playing.

Speaker 3 (01:41:00):
He's probably gonna play. Yeah, Oh, Marvin Harrison Juji with
the touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
That's better than quitting on the route like he did
in the first half.

Speaker 3 (01:41:08):
Gage garbage touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
I don't think the Colts are gonna be able to
run against one of my favorite named football players ever,
South Carolina high school kid ended up at the University
of Texas, mister Poona Ford. Tell me there's a better
name for a six foot tall, three hundred pound defensive tackle, Poona.

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He looks like a Poona.

Speaker 3 (01:41:33):
So you're so you're going Rams, I'm I.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
Will pick first. I will put my pick on the
board first, and I think the Rams win this game
by more than a field game.

Speaker 3 (01:41:42):
I'm gonna say this is the Temple of Doom. Give
me the Colts.

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
Yeah, you think we're still.

Speaker 3 (01:41:49):
I think we're still in the Adventure.

Speaker 2 (01:41:51):
We're still in the eighties Indiana Jones movies.

Speaker 3 (01:41:53):
Yeah, we're still were still riding the adventure. I think
they're gonna go six or seven and oh and surprise
people and then they'll finally get that loss.

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
So you were getting three and a half points for that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:06):
Okay, Yeah, Matt Gay, he's looking good.

Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
The kicker, well, I mean that could be that could
be what separates it. Uh So we got under We've.

Speaker 3 (01:42:17):
Only punted one time in the past three games.

Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
We'll burn through the rest of the league slate real quick.
We're under six minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:42:24):
I'm trying to hype up for this.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
In the Thursday night football game, Seahawks still winning twenty
to thirteen over the Cards. Yeah, Jayden Daniels still unsure
whether he's gonna play for Washington. They travel to Atlanta
two and one Commanders versus the one and two Falcons.
Falcons coming off an absolute, absolute, bottoming out embarrassment thirty

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to zero loss to Carolina.

Speaker 3 (01:42:50):
Man, they gotta get right, man. They got Bji, one
of the best in the game. Drake London is.

Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
Like, if Mariota's still starting for Washington, maybe it is
an opportunity for Atlanta to get right.

Speaker 3 (01:43:02):
Everything's yeah. I think Jane Daniel is still limited that practice.

Speaker 2 (01:43:06):
Yeah, I haven't. It still feels like it's truly a
game time decision.

Speaker 3 (01:43:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:43:12):
We mentioned the Dublin game Viking Steelers. That's eight thirty
Sunday morning on NFL network.

Speaker 3 (01:43:20):
I think Steelers take that one.

Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
Uh yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:43:24):
I Addison, I mean, I have zero faith.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
I think the Vikings with Carson Wentz might. It's a
Minnesota kid. It's a hell of a homecoming if he can.

Speaker 3 (01:43:35):
I don't trust Redhead and Dublin look as.

Speaker 2 (01:43:38):
A as someone the age of Aaron Rodgers, Uh, traveling
eight hours on an airplane is not good on an
old man's body.

Speaker 3 (01:43:47):
That man had a hyperbolic chamber in that flag.

Speaker 2 (01:43:50):
I think I'm going Vikings there. Saints at Bill's. That's
a no brainer. Oh and three versus three and oh
win it. Browns at line is now right exactly. That's
how the NFL works.

Speaker 3 (01:44:03):
Lions are just their defense is clicking.

Speaker 2 (01:44:05):
Lions at home. Brown's riding high off that win. Against
green Bay. They might be riding a little too high.
You want to guess the line on that one though.
So you just watched Cleveland beat green Bay last week.

Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
I still say Detroit seven and a half, nine.

Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
And a half, big, big number, yeah, because the're gonna
straight destroy Flacco back there.

Speaker 3 (01:44:29):
You might see Sanders at halftime.

Speaker 2 (01:44:32):
Might see Dylan Gabriel. You know, something should be said
about the Browns. I was reading an article earlier today.
Every single one of their draft most recent draft picks
have all contributed now in a substantial way. Except for
Gabriel and Sanders, every other pick they made in this
most recent draft is Junkins. Looked great in his debut,

(01:44:52):
but he go for like ninety four yards.

Speaker 3 (01:44:54):
Yeah solid. He is an NFL running He's a starting
fantasy player. Every week. You gotta start him. But Jared
j Jerry Judy yet to go off do anything again.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
He is Joe Flacco is.

Speaker 3 (01:45:11):
Flacco and him had connection at the end last into
last year, the last six games, Judy decided some championships
for fantasy.

Speaker 2 (01:45:19):
Yeah, I think maybe, uh, you know the difference between
thirty nine year old Flacco and forty year old Flacco
might be significant Panthers at Patriots. Who cares about that one?

Speaker 3 (01:45:30):
Patriots?

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
Yeah, I mean it's it's a big number. You saw
the Panthers beat the Eagles by thirty last week. Take
a guess on the number Panthers at Pats.

Speaker 3 (01:45:41):
Panthers at Pats, uh Pats.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
Four and a half, five and a half, still higher
than I would have guessed. Undefeated Chargers at winless Giants.
Jackson Dart making his first NFL career start.

Speaker 3 (01:45:57):
Jackson throws a pretty ball. He's like, I feel like
I haven't heard good things about a quarterback since Herbert
was a rookie.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
Oh, let's not get crazy. Jackson Dart was an upper
average secquel.

Speaker 3 (01:46:13):
I mean, did you see him in during the preseason? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
Again, like when he's going to get stat line, when
he's going against guys that are working in call centers.

Speaker 3 (01:46:22):
Now, I think him with the LSU kid and the
neighbors and these guys, Skataboo out there is scatting around.
Which have you have you seen him? Like?

Speaker 2 (01:46:31):
He like yells wheels off. Yeah again, guy, I think
a baseball team needs a guy like Skattaboo.

Speaker 3 (01:46:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46:37):
I don't know if an NFL team necessarily appreciates that
nearly as much. I don't think there's I think the
Chargers are good, and I think the Giants are just
waiting for to be able to fire Dave hit Nick,
Jibba Smith, Jackson Smith, and Jigba yea a deep bro
a double move. Yeah that if they can get a

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score here, this game is over. Yeah. This is an
interesting one because a lot of people, you know, these
survival polls, a lot of people were going Chargers over
the Giants, undefeated Chargers, windless Giants, Jackson Dart. Granted, it's
a West Coast team traveling to New York, and it's

(01:47:19):
a noon kickoff, so it's the early window.

Speaker 3 (01:47:21):
You always got, like it's always that kid, like the
rookie first game, Brookie.

Speaker 2 (01:47:27):
Yeah, the Bam. It's either gonna it's either gonna be
probably really.

Speaker 3 (01:47:30):
Good or really bad. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
But the other game that a lot of people are
looking at for survival pools, the winless Titans at the
windless Texans. Someone's got either cam Ward is getting his
first NFL wins.

Speaker 3 (01:47:49):
Someone's got to suck to a win someone.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
The Texans aren't out of this division with an OH
to three start unless we assume that in the Annapolis
really does become the Christs Minnesota last year. Yeah, again,
I think we're gonna get.

Speaker 3 (01:48:05):
Until we get to the Crystal School. That might be
next year.

Speaker 2 (01:48:07):
I think we're gonna get the dial of Destiny at
some point.

Speaker 3 (01:48:10):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:48:11):
It feels like the Texans get their first win of
the season. But I still if I was in a
survival pool, I would have.

Speaker 3 (01:48:18):
But you got cam Ward, he's thirsty.

Speaker 2 (01:48:20):
It wouldn't be good picking ANH to three team.

Speaker 3 (01:48:23):
And survival pool. That kid, man, if you're ever.

Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
Gonna do it, he was also the Titans. Rumors are
Simmons might might be on his way out the defensive
lineman as well.

Speaker 3 (01:48:35):
What was it the kid the rookie Tennis Simons to Tennessee.
He has a real weird name to this starts with an.

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
Uh elephant Titus elephant.

Speaker 3 (01:48:53):
Uh. Anyway, the rookie out of him? Uh? Oh, I
am I am man or a man? Yes, okay, Yeah,
he's looking like he's becoming the number one over Ridley.

Speaker 2 (01:49:09):
That's not that shocking to me. It feels that whole
team is them.

Speaker 3 (01:49:15):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
See that's like it's I wouldn't feel good about taking
the Texans in a survival pool.

Speaker 3 (01:49:20):
I think I think, I think the Texans can go.

Speaker 2 (01:49:23):
For lastly only other game from Sunday, we haven't talked
about Bears at Raiders. Who cares. Raiders are one and
a half point favorites there. And then Monday, Monday, we
get a double header, which is why we're doing shows
on Tuesday nights.

Speaker 3 (01:49:39):
Now Monday double headers.

Speaker 2 (01:49:41):
I love him now, granted or not? Greater games, it's
Jets at Dolphins, both winless, and then the burrowless Bengals.
Did I say it right?

Speaker 3 (01:49:54):
Yes, a little bit right?

Speaker 2 (01:49:55):
It was a little better if I go burrowless Bengals
for Bengals, it's Bengals. Just let me say Bengals, it's Bengals.
You could say what however you want, bing bing bing
bing bing bing binging you like you like to.

Speaker 3 (01:50:07):
B bes knees Bengals.

Speaker 6 (01:50:10):
Hey, I like to talk like a Transatlantic announcer saying
that Cincinnati Bengals traveling exactly kind of link to the
mile highest city to face those raging Denver Broncos one
and two Broncos Broncos team that has high, high expectations
after last year.

Speaker 2 (01:50:27):
But boat, you know it's okay. The the chart we
were talking about, the e p A PFF chart. Bo
Nick's second to last. I believe. Yeah, he is awful.
He's been awful.

Speaker 3 (01:50:36):
Yeah, and I think this might be a game to
get right. Oh, a miss field goal by Seattle and
they're only down by a touchdown three minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
Left keeps Arizona in it. Maybe we'll have an end.

Speaker 3 (01:50:49):
Maybe we'll have my hi, maybe we'll have my tie
that I want.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
Well, that would definitely not happen before we sign off.
We're not going another hour.

Speaker 3 (01:50:58):
Yeah, but but yeah, I might go with.

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
The Bengals seven and a half point dogs. This feels
like I mean, it's Jake browning it. Jamar Chase had
nothing less.

Speaker 3 (01:51:12):
Yeah, I know it seems my number one pick.

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
Yeah, I have my number one pick. Actually Zeb's number
one pick. Zeb. You have, You've got some answers, you
have some explaining to do. Why did you pick a
guy that wasn't going to have his franchise quarterback of
a line.

Speaker 3 (01:51:27):
Number one picks got high anklespran, so suck it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:30):
Yeah, but he's still got a healthy deck. Who's number
two in the EPIK. Yeah, there's the there's the NFL
schedule quickly. I do want to mention a couple of
college football games. UTSA is on by uh LG. We'll
we'll scrap that trailer audio. He talked about how he
has spoken to the team, spoken to the administration about

(01:51:54):
the Oklahoma State job. Because clearly his name has he's
been spoken to about the Oklahoma State job. One would
think uh, And he continues to say, Look, my track
record shows this is where I want to be. I
signed an extension. There's I've got a big buy out
for a reason because I don't want to have to
I don't want to use it.

Speaker 3 (01:52:14):
Hey, Traylor, you're not gonna have to deal with all
the construction and still water. Man, it's a beautiful city.

Speaker 2 (01:52:20):
Y'all should go go get GJ. Kenney, piss off all
the Texas State fans. Go get Tulsa record setting university
of what coin flip you'd rather have trailer than Kenny? Yeah,
I don't blame you there, although I think you honestly,
if you get either one of those two guys.

Speaker 3 (01:52:36):
It's gonna be a win. You're solid.

Speaker 2 (01:52:38):
That's a great hire. Eric Morris at North Texas well, I.

Speaker 3 (01:52:42):
Think both Texas State and North Texas are gonna they're
gonna leap frog to a better thing, like if they
there's a stepping stone.

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
Everything Traylor says, And granted, I don't think as soon
as you start to say, well, he's not like your
average college football coach. At the end of the day,
he's still a college Believe it at your own risk.
But like everything he says, it sounds like he is
absolutely solely committed.

Speaker 3 (01:53:06):
If there's one place that obviously we stick with our
head coaches where he can sit there and lay down
a fact, like we talked about it, it's still water.

Speaker 2 (01:53:16):
And he can recruit the piss out of East Texas,
bring all those kids up there.

Speaker 3 (01:53:20):
And I mean, we got our own stadium that just
got rebuilt with team Boom Pickings money, we got our
own practice facility, or like everything's brand new in that
thing from the past decade of that billionaire Pickings money.
He's gonna think about that one.

Speaker 2 (01:53:38):
I think it's I think it's more of a desirable
landing spot than a lot of the way it's been
portrayed in the media this past week. It's been kind
of like maybe I'm just biased from all of the
awesome Big twelve memories I have hell the old like

(01:53:59):
big a Southwest Conference? They were Southwest Conference, weren't they
maybe just big or big anyway? But like all the
memories I have of you know, Oklahoma State being an
actual desirable job, I think there. I think if again,
if they get either of the two guys within thirty

(01:54:21):
miles of where we sit right now, they'll be in
in good position.

Speaker 3 (01:54:25):
Friday night game this week, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:54:28):
A fun one. TCU traveling out to the desert playing
in Arizona State, a nice Big twelve matchup.

Speaker 3 (01:54:33):
I was saying, Oklahoma State's got a Friday night game?

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
Oh God, who do you all have to play?

Speaker 3 (01:54:38):
I think a known namer. Actually, maybe it might be BYU.

Speaker 2 (01:54:43):
Were getting out BYU's playing Colorado. If I remember off
the top of my head, I think, oh it's a
I did see it. It's a it's a big twelve galer. Yeah,
that's it's right. It's travel Baylor travels up to y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:54:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a two thirty oh no oh day,
So they moved it was a Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:55:02):
Yeah, I'd say I think the only Friday game Big
twelve wise is that TCU Arizona State, which is actually
a fun one. Uh. The game of the week is
in the up in the Big Ten, the traditional classic
Big ten matchup. Let me see Penn State number three,
Penn State, Happy Valley. Are we going to get a

(01:55:23):
wide out traditional classic Big ten football facing number six.

Speaker 3 (01:55:31):
Oregon? Oh, buddy, defense versus offense.

Speaker 2 (01:55:35):
Exactly what I think of when I think of the
Big Ten, Oregon traveling to Penn State.

Speaker 3 (01:55:41):
Classic Big tid classic classic. I remember growing up watching those.

Speaker 2 (01:55:47):
Houston's the other Big twelve Friday night game Houston plays
Oregon State.

Speaker 3 (01:55:52):
Maybe that's what I thought. Maybe that because I saw
the issue. Yeah, yeah, that's what I bet. That's what
it is. And orange and black, yeah I would. I
gotta go with the Ducks. Ducks offense is rolling, Yeah,
I want to see and their defenses, I mean they
show us out. Their defense ain't bad, Dad, Like, they
haven't let anybody close to over twenty points.

Speaker 2 (01:56:13):
It's it's one of those games where I think a
loss for either team, it's still it's not deathson, No, No,
They're both still in a position teams. Yeah, yeah, a
good position. I mean, if Penn State loses, they probably
don't even fall out of the top ten. If Oregon loses,
they're probably ten, eleven, twelve somewhere right there. It's a

(01:56:34):
big weekend in the SEC.

Speaker 3 (01:56:37):
Is that the six thirty game?

Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
Yeah, that's the night game. That's the NBC Night game,
the big, big weekend in the SEC. Number four LSU
traveling to number thirteen Ole Miss, both teams undefeated.

Speaker 3 (01:56:54):
Big so the John Blant takes exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:56:57):
And then also number seventeen Ban traveling to number five Georgia.
And that's the ABC Night game.

Speaker 3 (01:57:07):
Off of Georgia's loss. And Bama did they They came
back and put a mud stompy on someone right last week?

Speaker 2 (01:57:16):
Yeah? Who was that that?

Speaker 3 (01:57:18):
They? It was like it was a layup team, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:57:22):
Was it not the was it not the Oh it
was Oh yeah it was Wisconsin. Yeah that was two
weeks ago. And yeah yeah Obama. So yeah, Sobama's got
the rest. Lost to Florida State, who's now a top
ten team, spanked Louisiana Monroe, and then spanked Wisconsin.

Speaker 3 (01:57:42):
Yeah yeah, so, man, it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:45):
Should be a good game.

Speaker 3 (01:57:47):
Georgia's Georgia might be out if he if they lose.

Speaker 2 (01:57:52):
George is still undefeated there. I mean, we're so early. No,
they pulled, they snuck it out. They had uh that
late touchdown over the shoulder. The kid missed the kig right.
That was the Tennessee game. Tennessee should have beat them
in regulation, loses in overtime. Speaking of Tennessee, another interesting

(01:58:13):
game in the SEC that one lost Tennessee team who
should have beaten Georgia travels to stark Vegas. Starkville playing
Mississippi State. Missippi State's undefeated. Now they haven't played anybody
except for Arizona State. Who that's Arizona State's only loss.
It'll be interesting to see how Tennessee bounces back there.

(01:58:36):
I think they win. It's a seven and a half
point spread. I think they win. We'll see if they cover.
And then, lastly in the SEC, the other big noticeable
or notable game Auburn traveling to College Station three and
one Auburn. Auburn lost to OU last week, but we

(01:58:57):
talked about that on Tuesday. That game could have gone
the other way easily if a couple of plays had
been correctly officiated. Traveling to College Station playing undefeated number
nine ranked Texas A and M BE a good Mike
Elko got the signature win in South Bend against Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (01:59:15):
This is gonna be another test.

Speaker 2 (01:59:17):
Now you got to bounce back. Now it's conference play.
Now it's Auburn. Auburn has NFL defensive linemen. Auburn has
first round edge rush talent.

Speaker 3 (01:59:28):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:59:28):
Now will be a big, big response game, big conference response. Yes, exactly.
That is the two thirty game. Yeah, that's outside of that.
The only other thing did you see any of the
Texas on by? They're on by. They traveled to the
swamp next week. Only other thing I was going to

(01:59:51):
say college football wise, the did you see the SEC
solidified their permanent rivalry permanent? It's only four they're doing
it in four year cycles, so they they're having each
team has three annual guaranteed rivalry games, which.

Speaker 3 (02:00:12):
And they're gonna switch it every four years.

Speaker 2 (02:00:14):
Every four years, they'll they're taking it under consideration. They're
not necessarily gonna switch it.

Speaker 3 (02:00:20):
So like it's been like a two year thing where
it's like you play it ours and we play it yours,
like Texas and Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (02:00:26):
So it's weird. Now because the SEC added a ninth
conference game, they're going up to nine conference games instead
of eight. And the way they're they're trying to wait
the schedule where no one is getting screwed strength of
schedule wise, so they're rotating all opponents against each other.

(02:00:47):
But in the SEC where tradition is so rich, like
you can't rotate Alabama, Auburn, can't rotate Florida, Georgia, can't
rotate Texas. Oh you now can't rotate Texas, Texas and
M Now can't you get so like?

Speaker 3 (02:01:05):
It's so they're going to create. So they're going to
try to create.

Speaker 2 (02:01:07):
They've created pods that now each team has a secure
but here's the problem. Like Texas secured rivals are Oklahoma,
A and M and Arkansas. It's great for the viewer
because those are all traditional Southwest Conference rivalries that date
back decades, twelves, but also those are three teams that

(02:01:32):
want to beat the hell out of each other every
time they play. Like the other teams, you might have
one or two out of the three guaranteed games that
actually have true hostile you know hostilities amongst the team.

Speaker 7 (02:01:49):
Cardinal Cardinals, are we about to actually get a minute?
Nice cats having a bounced back first and goal fifty
seconds left. Cardinals have one time.

Speaker 3 (02:02:03):
Donald is no. Number one on a PFF crap list
that you have.

Speaker 2 (02:02:07):
I mean, dude, he led a team to fourteen wins
last year, not this year, on the precipice of being
three and one. If they can get us stop, I
don't know about that. You run an inside draw, you've
only got one time out left.

Speaker 3 (02:02:23):
They're killing, They're killing, they're killing the clock. They're making
the Seattle burn.

Speaker 2 (02:02:27):
No, that has to be Arizona that just used their
final time out. There's no way Seattle took it.

Speaker 3 (02:02:33):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (02:02:34):
I don't agree with that either. Make a force force
their hand if they want to get cute and hand
the ball off inside the ten. Yeah, it's only to
tie the game, exactly. You're not unless they go for
two in front of a home crowd to.

Speaker 3 (02:02:49):
Maybe that's what he's thinking, because like they don't want
to sit there and against the own crowd. They don't
want to sit there and do the overtime.

Speaker 2 (02:02:55):
Potentially, Yeah, I don't know. It feels like it feels
like they might be. I think that was I was
smarting one. The Cardinals outsmarted themselves, and then the Seahawks
bailed them out by outsmarting themselves.

Speaker 3 (02:03:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:03:08):
I don't like. I don't like the play there to
give me, like, get you a little point a shave
a shave of a point.

Speaker 3 (02:03:17):
Yeah, hey, well he's still in there. They're just still thinking.

Speaker 2 (02:03:20):
We'll see if we can see how this ends there
you go, Okay, okay, hold on, I got We can't
do play by play. Oh is that Mercado? Oh TCU kid?

Speaker 3 (02:03:36):
Yeah, buddy, he had.

Speaker 2 (02:03:38):
He was part of that TCU team that made the
national championship for.

Speaker 3 (02:03:43):
The All right. Hey hey, yeah, you're twisting the knife
right now. I lost Gundy, I lost Bosa. Yeah, you know,
you want to bring up all you want to bring
up all the pope chokes.

Speaker 2 (02:03:55):
They're out there, just pointing out out there, just pointing
out some facts. Well, I'll tell you what. Okay, they're
kicking the field goals, so we might have overtime. Let's
do this, uh extra point LG? Yeah, yeah, extra point,
my bad LG. Let's do some lightning round, shall we?
And maybe if this game goes to overtime, we'll have
some time to watch it in the living room. First

(02:04:17):
one I had. Did you see do you remember the
iconic when Tony Hawk first landed the nine hundred at
the San Francisco X Games. What you're nineteen ninety nine.

Speaker 3 (02:04:29):
He actually went overtime, you know, and they just like
that exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:04:32):
It was just he was doing no no other moves.
It was there wasn't a full set or a full run.
It was just I'm going to land the first nine
hundred in competition.

Speaker 3 (02:04:44):
Nine hundred back they had best trick vert yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:04:46):
But this was this was this was yeah, this was
And also now nine hundreds are done by twelve year
olds at summer camps, like it's so crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:04:58):
Small only squat them out, you know, it helps.

Speaker 2 (02:05:00):
But his uh man, now that you say that, that
might have been just best trick run. I didn't think
it was around yet in ninety nine. But the skateboard
that he used during that run where he got the
first nine hundred in competition sold at auction for one
point one five million dollars deserving, I would say, So

(02:05:23):
that was that was an epic moment. That was the
precipice of bringing skateboarding from the eighties.

Speaker 3 (02:05:32):
H to where it was all about those weird tournaments
and yeah, the flat like the flat, yeah, freestyle competitions.

Speaker 2 (02:05:38):
It was twenty years of building up for that.

Speaker 3 (02:05:42):
Yeah, like Rodney Mullen's style skateboarding, which I love to watch.
Man some one of my favorite skaters.

Speaker 2 (02:05:48):
Bob Burnquist bringing in the Brazilian flair. Yeah, Bucky Lassic, Yeah,
I think what was it?

Speaker 3 (02:05:55):
Man, Bucky and Tony used to do the doubles vert
into in their forties, yeah, and still win.

Speaker 2 (02:06:01):
Oh yeah, and then Bucky went on to do some
u no like rally cards, rally cross Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (02:06:11):
Yeah, I heit me ol g. Christian McCaffrey has seventy
seven touches, are the most through three games since Derrick
Henry had ninety two in twenty twenty one. It's the
most ever for forty nine ers player through three games.
The previous was seventy five Frank Gore two thousand and six.

Speaker 2 (02:06:34):
And how much does that concern you?

Speaker 3 (02:06:36):
Concerns me a lot? Yeah, that is that is we
need our receivers back, Like that's.

Speaker 2 (02:06:40):
Derrick Henry four years ago, the most recent someone had
that many touches.

Speaker 3 (02:06:46):
He said he felt good. Well, I'm just saying he's
two thousand and three. You know, we got a short window. Now.

Speaker 2 (02:06:53):
That is that is a lot of a lot of touches.

Speaker 3 (02:06:58):
And especially that includes catch man because he has like
eight catches a game.

Speaker 2 (02:07:01):
But you went out and you made the trade. You
went out and made the trade for Robinson Jr. Yeah,
to potentially avoid some of this.

Speaker 3 (02:07:11):
Because that was we got an injury, like our running
back corps was getting injured. You know.

Speaker 2 (02:07:18):
Yeah, so, but I would think you should. We could
probably use him. You could probably utilize him a little
more to spare McCaffrey.

Speaker 3 (02:07:26):
Yeah, hit me LG.

Speaker 2 (02:07:29):
Quickly. I mentioned on Tuesday the Stars opened their preseason
play over the weekend. Well, damn it if last night
Jamie Binn didn't puncture his lung that would lead to
his long collapsing, stayed overnight in the hospital, had X
rays at the arena, rushed to the hospital, had the

(02:07:52):
surgery to plug the hole in his lung. Now is
expected to be he's not going to be able to
skate for a month and then probably we'll need a
week or two to ramp back up. Basically, have another
training camp. Now that he's not going to get a
training camp, get into shape.

Speaker 3 (02:08:10):
I always feel like hockey, nobody ever like dominate, no
one ever runs away with it, you know what I'm.

Speaker 2 (02:08:16):
Saying, especially not now because it's so it's so restrictive
salary cap wise that there, it's really like hard.

Speaker 3 (02:08:24):
Six and seventeen draws.

Speaker 2 (02:08:26):
Exactly, especially if you have a lot of top tier,
top end talent. Yeah, they take up such a large
percentage of the salary cap compared to the NFL or
the NBA or any of that. It's really hard to
build depth if you have a lot of If you
have Connor McDavid's I mean also, you can find ways
to do it, but uh, way more difficult. In the NHL.

(02:08:50):
Jamie Benn starting his seventeenth season with the Stars, he's
been captain now for seventeen seasons. I hit around on
the ice eleven something like that, And it wasn't even
a big hit. If you had, if I had shown
you the hit, you'd be like, that's it? Like that
that puncture that caused his long to collapse. It wasn't

(02:09:11):
even a It might just be a man that's getting
a little old.

Speaker 3 (02:09:15):
Yeah, hit me lg.

Speaker 2 (02:09:18):
One.

Speaker 3 (02:09:19):
Stefan Diggs is getting accused of oh no by a
gay hairdresser.

Speaker 2 (02:09:28):
Oh the plot thickens.

Speaker 3 (02:09:30):
I wish I found this out on National Bisexual.

Speaker 2 (02:09:33):
I did see a CARDI b talking about how.

Speaker 3 (02:09:37):
Yeah, and there's like some girl named JT.

Speaker 2 (02:09:39):
It doesn't have her.

Speaker 3 (02:09:40):
They're like, it's supposed to be a new rap battle,
be for something, but she's backing up like when it's home.

Speaker 2 (02:09:47):
When it's against men, like sexual assauts against men, it
never gets taken seriously and stuff and blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (02:09:52):
But they're accusing one Stefan Diggs of being.

Speaker 2 (02:09:58):
Yeah, well, I again, there is anything wrong with it.

Speaker 3 (02:10:02):
I'll wait.

Speaker 2 (02:10:03):
I'll wait and see if this actually makes it to
a court date or charges are actually filed before I
rush to any kind of legal judgment, not personal judgment
at all. Look at this, we're gonna have a game.
We have a final kick potential.

Speaker 3 (02:10:17):
Where are we at?

Speaker 2 (02:10:18):
What's it going to be?

Speaker 3 (02:10:19):
Like a fifty eight fifty? Like it's doable the way
what you might call it, Kyler Murray's looking right.

Speaker 2 (02:10:26):
There well and the way Seattle the play before handed
the ball off to set up the hash mark they wanted, yeah,
and get a couple more yards.

Speaker 3 (02:10:35):
I think it might be a fifty. I think it
might be a like a high forty.

Speaker 2 (02:10:41):
Unless Jerry traded Brandon Aubrey to see fifty two that's
a chip.

Speaker 3 (02:10:46):
Shot only like we look, how crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:10:49):
It's so different. Now, if you can't consistently make fifty
two yarders, you can't be a kicker in the NFL.
You've got to make eight out of ten at fifty two.

Speaker 3 (02:10:57):
Yards and he missed. He missed one just second ago.
That's gonna go foo wins.

Speaker 2 (02:11:06):
Well, they made it a little more difficult than it
should have been, but that's probably the deserving.

Speaker 3 (02:11:12):
The outcome touchdown.

Speaker 2 (02:11:14):
LG hit me one more time. I got something here.
You have that Rory audio. It's quick, we'll get to it.
And then I got one more after that. So Ryder Cup,
of course starting tomorrow at six am. That's when TV
coverage on US.

Speaker 3 (02:11:31):
Maybe that's why it's starting at six am because it's
supposed to be playing on Thursdays as well.

Speaker 2 (02:11:36):
Yeah, they squeeze it in. It's Friday, Saturday, Sunday all day,
all day, every day. Well that's why you said it
to record and then just get caught up throughout the time.
So the best part of the Ryder Cup is one
the fact that the golfers it's the only international competition

(02:11:57):
except maybe the Olympics. Now they all play in it,
it's the only one they seem to actually really take serious.
I mean it is cutthroat. All these guys are looking
up to Sevy and all the uh previous European golfers
that win.

Speaker 3 (02:12:15):
Oh they're talking talking smack to each other.

Speaker 2 (02:12:17):
Well. And when it was opened up from it used
to just be England and Ireland and then it was
opened up to all of Europe. So that's when you
started really seeing Europe. It's when you started to see
the Ryder Cup get competitive. And along with that, the
best part of it is the crowds and the fact
that they actually talk madge to the golfers, and the golfers,

(02:12:41):
for their part, take it and play along and it's a.

Speaker 3 (02:12:45):
They definitely stare them down when they do something good.
There's like thousand hey drunk golfer, dude.

Speaker 2 (02:12:51):
Bro Ryder Cup is what golf should just be at
all times. If you ask me, I want to see
that all the time. Waste management, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:13:01):
The Waiste management is great because they're all like, they're
all for it, They're for the hole in one. They're
not sitting there talking crap. But have you been out
to the TPC. Yeah, we go like all the all
the golfer bros and stuff who sit there and just
act like their crap doesn't steam.

Speaker 2 (02:13:18):
That's what I'm saying. Golf would be much more popular
if they treated it like every other sport and let
the fans actually be fans like they do at the
Ryder Cup.

Speaker 3 (02:13:27):
But those guys are so arrogant.

Speaker 2 (02:13:29):
Yeah, it's never happened, but I'll continue to found that
a guy like.

Speaker 3 (02:13:33):
I've been shoulder bumped like eighteen times at there, and
like none of them turn around and say, hey, I'm sorry, man, No, no, no,
you know, and I'm like, we're not going against different
teams here, Bro.

Speaker 2 (02:13:41):
They've got more on their wrist than I have in
my Like, I can I get the entitled I don't
agree with it.

Speaker 3 (02:13:48):
I'm gonna follow in the bathroom and then I'm gonna
have more of my wrists than they will. Whoa again
again but all blue chooes.

Speaker 2 (02:13:58):
Yes, we got our first real first trash talking moment
that went a little bit viral earlier. This was Rory
I actually this is a good line from the fan. Yeah,
you don't need a button to choke Rory. All the golfers.

(02:14:23):
The entire team Europe turns around like, actually, that's a
good one. So if you're just listening, Rory's adjusting his
caller and he's trying to fix a button at the
top of his caller.

Speaker 3 (02:14:33):
He's trying to butnon it back up and it looks
like he broke the button.

Speaker 2 (02:14:36):
That's pretty good. That's a good start. Hopefully we get
some Hopefully we get some good audio to play when
we get back in the room next Tuesday. Uh, hit
me LG and we'll close it out here. I got
a couple on this days for you. I teased it.
We're gonna end with possibly the greatest athletic individual, athletic
achievement I've ever seen that occurred on this day the

(02:15:00):
year two thousand, but also on this.

Speaker 3 (02:15:03):
Day, not me, no cowboy crowd in.

Speaker 2 (02:15:05):
Nineteen seventy four. Now playmaker had already retired. Yeah, and
Emmett was with the Cardinals on this day in nineteen
seventy four. A man that would go on to be
way more famous for his off the field name than

(02:15:28):
his actual baseball achievements, Dodgers pitcher Tommy John. Tommy John
had experimental surgery on this day in nineteen seventy four,
the first what would become known as the Tommy John Surgery.

Speaker 3 (02:15:44):
You know you like I heard this, Like, what's mc caulle.
I was listening to some radio. He actually almost had
three hundred wins, like two eighty four or to eighty
eight or something like that. Really, yeah, he had two
hundred and eighty six wins. Guess how many no decisions?
He had one hundred, one hundred and eighty eight. Cool,

(02:16:05):
good lord. Yeah, So there's no way you're telling me
three hundred gets you in the Hall of Fame. But
the Tommy John who did the Tommy John surgery is
named after him. Four time All Star, four time All
Stars under an eighty eight career, twenty win seasons, three
thirty four e r Yeah, how is Tommy John not
a Hall of Famer? Yeah, he deserves to be in

(02:16:28):
the Hall of Fame. So does the surgeon.

Speaker 2 (02:16:30):
Yeah, if nothing else, just because of the surgery.

Speaker 3 (02:16:33):
But also I think that.

Speaker 2 (02:16:34):
Should be like I think his stats, he might be
a late Look until Vida Blue is in the Hall
of Fame, I'm not gonna beat the drum for Tommy John,
who was the blue picture that won the cy Young
and MVP was absolutely had has three hundred career wins.
Who do you play for athletics majority?

Speaker 3 (02:16:55):
Oh and he's not in No, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (02:16:58):
No, there's a there's a bit of a there. Yeah,
he won the seventy one cy Young and Al MVP
was a part of their championship teams from seventy two
to seventy four. Only two two hundred and nine career wins.

Speaker 3 (02:17:15):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (02:17:16):
I think if you win a sy Young in an MVP,
you're you're a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 3 (02:17:19):
He's not the only one to do that.

Speaker 2 (02:17:24):
Be thinking about it before we close out with this. Okay,
Now take yourself back to the year two thousand, to
the year two thousand. In the late summer, we had
the two thousand Olympic Games and Team USA was playing

(02:17:48):
France and Vince Carter did this against Frederick Weiss.

Speaker 1 (02:17:59):
Yeap, oh, oh dude, that's still a seven footer.

Speaker 3 (02:18:13):
He's seven three.

Speaker 2 (02:18:18):
Yeah, not just a seven footer, and he doesn't just
barely clear him taste. Yeah, he's seven seven to two.

Speaker 3 (02:18:30):
In my opinion, the best dunker in the game.

Speaker 2 (02:18:33):
In my opinion, that's the best in game dunk. I've
ever seen in my life. Yeah, that's and it doesn't
matter that it was against the French stiff. He jumped
a seven foot two guy. Also, I forgot Vin Baker
was on this team USA team Vin Baker, and you'll
see when Vince swings his fist, he almost knocks KG

(02:18:53):
out cold.

Speaker 3 (02:18:56):
Oh KG that trash talk again.

Speaker 2 (02:18:59):
I know that's high high tease to say it's one
of the greatest athletic achievements.

Speaker 3 (02:19:06):
But dude, like no one's ever I never haven't seen
anybody else do it.

Speaker 2 (02:19:10):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (02:19:11):
Like unless you want to sit there and hey, stay
right there and let me push off your head. Even
though he kind of pushed off his head, but that's
in game.

Speaker 2 (02:19:18):
It's in game. It's not a dunk contest. And he
kind of pushed his head a little to the side
and on it to jump over.

Speaker 3 (02:19:27):
He's want all this juice on you.

Speaker 2 (02:19:29):
Yeah exactly. Yeah, that's a great as I can see
now that I have a monitor.

Speaker 3 (02:19:33):
I can because he's trying to take the charge and
it's just like, bro, yeah you don't get it, You're
gonna get a mouthful of package.

Speaker 2 (02:19:40):
He's sitting there like a seven foot two Frenchman who
has no choice but to take it because he's not
getting out.

Speaker 3 (02:19:45):
Of the way. That Frenchman had to take all that. Richard.

Speaker 2 (02:19:48):
Oh, on that note, I appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (02:19:51):
You've done it. We have.

Speaker 2 (02:19:54):
Maybe the show is better when I don't send you
the run sheet because you don't feel the need to
use that damn prof that dang profanity. Uh tell tell
I followed you on X by the way, and you
haven't followed me back. Tell the people how they can
get a hold of you the captains.

Speaker 3 (02:20:09):
Chair two one zero on X and Instagram.

Speaker 2 (02:20:12):
Uh, you want to get a hold of me on
X at Biggest Puma on Instagram, Biggest Dot Puma, LG.
How can the people get a hold or when's the
next show? I mean tomorrow night, Tomorrow night Elg's house.
Also who almost died? Hopefully that doesn't happen tomorrow when
I'm filling in for Uncle Andy. Yeah four on tickets
seven sixty back in the mothership out there, y'all listen

(02:20:34):
to that and then enjoy the football this weekend. We'll
be back Tuesday night to recap it all till then
you'll be good. Peace, peace, kids.

Speaker 3 (02:20:45):
What do we say about drugs yeah,
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