NBA Draft Lottery Follows Script, Giannis Trade Talk Intensifies (but at what cost), & The Legend of Mikko Rantanen

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lie d be, lie da be, lie be line d b.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Oh, light the beam, indeed, light the beam, and bear
with me, because holy hell, I'm a bit discombobulated right now.
Welcome into the Monday night Live edition of the Sports Cave,
recapping here the NBA Draft lottery that happened earlier tonight.
And wouldn't you know it? Wouldn't you know it? Let

(00:36):
me just stretch here, wouldn't you know it? We actually
have something to talk about. As always, I am your host,
Sam Freeze, joined by the Cap and LG in parts
unknown here in the greater San Antonio area, where we
find ourselves now forty four days away from what is

(00:58):
now a really exciting NBA draft. If you want to
mark the calendars, Round one comes down June twenty fifth,
and have a feeling we're gonna be talking a lot
of NBA Draft between now and then over the course
of the next forty four days.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
I wonder if there's gonna be moves.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Oh buddy, get ready for the main segment tonight, because
that is exactly what we're already starting to talk about,
because now we know some of the pieces that could
be involved. That voice you heard, of course, is Cap
joining again. How are we doing over there?

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Brother, I'm hanging in there. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Oh that that doesn't sound confident.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
I man, I could not fall asleep last night. I
was so eager for this draft. Not yeah, about to
say a little indigestion.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Little indigestion or sleeping every two hours making up Yankees
on a West coast road trip. Maybe you know, late nights,
it'll keep you up LG. How how are we looking
in the control room over there?

Speaker 1 (01:59):
How are we doing?

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Oh we're looking great, man, We're looking great control room
over here.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
That is much more of a confident answer than the
one Cap gave me. I'm now I'm now having indigestion
based concerns from the man across from me. I will
I'll give you this. I've talked a lot about my
Fiesta food.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
So I went on Yeah, so yesterday I went on
a bender and got a local establishment that is a
staple for us on the North Side is PI Pizza Italia,
and I just went a little.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
My first employer, Hey, that is man.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
It's a lot of our friends first employers because he
didn't care what.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
We look like.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
That's a good man, that's a good.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Sweet sweet terry, But yeah, just went a little heavy
on the crushed red pepper and had some buffalo wings
to wrap it up. And I haven't had pizza, and probably,
believe it or not, I haven't had pizza in probably
like two months.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
And talk about food, right, it's been a little longer.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
I will walk over to that room. Hold on, hold on.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
There must have been something in the air, because the
roommate and I had pizza Classics delivered yesterday after after
watching the Stars game.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
A friend in my neighborhood owns that.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Well, tell him continue with the good work. He makes
a hell of a pizza. And he said his cauliflower
pizza dough it's good is He'll put it up against anybody's.
So I did a lot of research.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
He said.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
A past individual that I ordered pizza with frequently would
always be looking for the more healthy option is when
it came to pizza, and it'd be like, dude, you're
eating pizza, like, just bite the bullet and eat pizza
like you're not you're not getting you're not benefiting and too. Again,
to your buddy's credit, the cauliflower crust was you can

(03:59):
do it lot with cauliflower. You can do buffalo wings
with cauliflower.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
That's pretty good. Fry fry like you would a chicken wing.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Towards the end of a drunken night, I'll just pull
off all the toppings if I'm getting too full, and
I still want that cheese and mare and there and greasiness.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, I still I am. I am a bit of
a pizza snob. I mean, I think Il Fourno down
in my part of the in my part of town
is the best pizza I've ever eaten in my life.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
But that being said, didn't we have a Portnoy or
whatever is he went to a he went and gave
great reviews.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah, yeah, I looked at him all and then it
was like high reviews for San Antonio and he was
like very surprised with his New York you know, Bravado.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, it feels like they're a bit elitist when it
comes to pizza. No, he several couple of those places
that he went to are now selling out, like barbecue places,
like they can't proof enough dough every day. They're selling
out one of them in my part of town. But yeah,
there's still as much as I love a fancy, really

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nice ingredient like you know, Il four and Oh cures
all of their own meats, all in house. They butchered
the you know, they're breaking down and tires, oh all
of it, and.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
It is excellent Canadian bacon.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
But every now and then you still just want some
old school college pizzeria pizza. And that was us yesterday
with the old pizza exactly. I want to go to
the buffet. You know, CCS has made a massive comeback.
They were on the verge of bankruptcy and they are back.
They they're back, closed a bunch of stores, but they're
back profitable for the first time in twenty thirties. Well again,

(05:46):
they closed a lot of stores. So I don't I.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
Don't taste like card word.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
I think maybe it's probably similar quality, it's.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Just the business game. The arcades were the arcade as
a kid get for the video games.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
They at the Area of fifty one in Mortal Kombat,
which they had the you know, they had time cory
games that you might not get at a more family
friendly pizza establishment.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
My parents didn't give it.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well buddy, buddy minded and that's why.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Mortal Kombat for you were killer.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
In Stein went to seminary, and I didn't.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
I got the Genesis just so I could get blood
on Mortal Kombat.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Oh that's right, they made a gray on you had. Yeah, yeah,
yeah it was. It was quite quite a different game.
I remember aging ourselves gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Well, having the buddy that had the Sega Genesis immediately
made you the coolest kid in the neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
I never got used to the three buns. He just
lg just showed me that he got the old school
Superness remote for.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
His Oh yeah, it's nice, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
And I'm like, man, this brings me back man the
Street Fighter days and three buntons.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
Yeah, if only they had street Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
The six buttons. But I can never get used to
the Genesis just three buttons.

Speaker 5 (07:05):
It was a little weird.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
I always liked the updated controller with the three extra buttons,
so it had six.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Buttons at least a little closer to comfortable. But still
I'm with it.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
It was weird having Sega always went weird with their controllers.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, I mean, hell, look at the Dreamcast, an extremely
extremely underrated system. It played online. I played an online
game on a Dreamcast, The Birth of Two k uh huh. Yeah,
was that the sports game.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah, I worked at Babbage's Video Games store before GameStop
became a you know, the Titan that it was, And
it was at north Star Mall, and it was right
when the Dreamcast came out, and they had Soul Caliber
on there and we had kids lined up, you know,
And I would go there and of course Wrex shop
and I'd just sit there and just destroy about.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Twenty of them, of course, you know.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
But yeah, dude, like the Dreamcast was an elite machine.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Just a little but it's a perfect example of being
a little too ahead of your time. It was too much,
too quick for the consumer base.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
To add the little remember the little emojis you put
in the controller was spectacular. That was the memory card
had like the little guy on.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
It, the little window. All right, enough enough video game talk, LG.
Tell the people how they can get a hold of
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Speaker 2 (09:05):
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Speaker 2 (09:43):
Here, especially as we start to roll out more shows
throughout the week. Wink wink, hant hint. But as always
on Mondays, we start with a little bit of a
weekend recap. And I don't know how well to phrase it,
but the sports gods just continue to bless us right now.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
The sports gods love mothers.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
I think that's don't we all, don't we all love
our mom? I think, yeah, there's probably a few. Or
what was the nurse that never or not the nurse
the mom that the psycho might have might have not
loved the kids as much as Yeah, God, happy mother's Day.

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We're going to talk some mother's day. But the sports gods,
uh blessed us with a nice, nice rebound win for
the Stars yesterday. I mentioned we ordered pizza after it
because I was in a good mood. I was in
a mood good enough to eat greasy pizza, which we
ate pizza tuta. Yeah, I made it two times. You
gotta pump those numbers up. I had to kill salad

(10:54):
for lunch today to make up for it. But now Stars,
going back to last week, the four nothing loss in
Game two up in Winnipeg, it looked like the Stars
absolutely had no energy, completely flat. We were all texting
about the game Friday night, and you know, as we

(11:15):
watch NBA playoffs concurrently with NHL playoffs, it's so it's
so much of a different viewing experience where you know,
the Stars look terrible in game to lose four to
nothing to Winnipeg, and if that was an NBA series
like right now, like the way the Calves looked against
the Pacers, and that blowout was that sixty points they

(11:38):
got down to it was only twenty at the end,
but yeah, I mean it was over forty most of
the game. And so you watch that series and you think, oh, well,
you know, Indiana clearly looks like they're the team that's
gonna win the series. You watch a hockey playoff game
and a team one wins for nothing, you think, all right, well,
that's one game down time hockey. We move on to

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the next. Because we were talking, you know, in I
think we mentioned it a couple of weeks ago. In
the NBA, when a team is up three to one
in a series, it's basically it's basically they went and
basically being it's like a ninety four and a half
ninety five percent win rate for the team that's up
three to one. Hockey, it's about two thirds of that.

(12:21):
It's somewhere in the sixties. I think it's like sixty
sixty eight somewhere around there.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
So they were the only sport to let a three
team right go back until the some year in two thousand.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
And four, I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
We almost saw it I don't remember what last year
baseball that.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Was four because I watched that in a in a
student center at McMurray University when the Red Sox stole
bases and came back from down oh three.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
But we never happened. Never happened.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Almost saw it last year in the Stanley Cup Finals.
Florida goes up three to nothing and then Edmonton chips
back wins the next three and then Florida ends up
winning game seven. So hockey is It's wheels off, man,
It's wild as right. Yeah, Florida is doing well again.
Their March had the overtime game winner over the weekend,
but on the heels of that four to zero loss yesterday,

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Stars come back with a resounding five to two victory
over the Jets Game three back in Dallas. I don't
know how y'all feel. I hate, absolutely hate matinee playoff
games of any sport like I don't. I don't like
baseball day games in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Even on weekends. You don't like Madinne's on weekends not so.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Much, man, because I want all days. I want better
than the one o'clock tip off or first pitch or
any of that. That's terrible. And I know, I'm well
baseball's game. Hell, I'm not an early morning guy, So
one o'clock in the afternoon, I'm not ready for a
playoff game yet three thirty I'm still kind of gearing

(13:57):
up building the hype for it. That's still a little
early for me. And that was Stars yesterday afternoon.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Prizingly enough, I got up and watched the Barcelona and
Real Madrid game, which ah yes did like that was
one of those.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Another great game, another great week.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Have that in the in the lightning round because we
got to talk about Barsia's continued dominance there the it's
impot It's getting really hard to state how well Miko
Ranton and is playing. I mean, you can do it
through obviously if you don't know the whole story of Ranton.
And we've talked about him a little bit uh in

(14:38):
the last series when he wins uh wins the series
for the Stars with a with a hat trick over Colorado.
Now he's you know, after yesterday's game, he extended his streak,
his uh NHL record streak for most goals or consecutive
goals or assist. So the way they phrase it is

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he's contributed to thirteen straight goals. He's either scored it
or he's been the assist guy.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
So he's he's above Gretzky and of Vegas, above the Mew.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Above any of the anyone whatever. So the record before
was nine ninety nine, so he shattered it. He shattered it,
and it was it was twelve going into yesterday's game.
He extends it to thirteen, but then a goal in
the middle of the game ended the streak.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
He didn't score thirteen.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
The number thirteen is the new record, but he went
on to have two more assists, so at one point
he had scored or assisted on fifteen of the stars
last sixteen playoff goals. Just insane, And I mentioned for
for those of y'all that might not be as locked
in as Stars hockey.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Or back.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
What happened during the regular season of the NHL. Ranton
In was the Colorado Avalanche's number two Offensively, they have
Nathan McKinnon, second best hockey player on Earth behind McDavid mcjesus,
they had Kel mccarr is. That it's what that's what

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the Canadians believe is absolutely absolutely the guy, the stud.
But Miko was McDavid's running mate. He was the number
two guy on that line. So they end up having Oh,
he's going to be a free agent at the end

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of this year. Colorado opens negotiations with him. Miko tells him,
this is the number I want. Let's get it done.
Colorado low balls him and starts to try to negotiate.
Miko says again, this is the number I want. Let's
get it done. Colorado. At one point I think the
reports were and again not verified, but by high quality sources.

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It's sounds like at one point the negotiation was basically
down to about two hundred and fifty thousand dollars difference
a year in salary, and they couldn't get it done,
and they wouldn't budge, they wouldn't give him the number
he wanted.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
So then you know what this sounds like. This sounds
like Luca Jalen Brunson.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Not accepting the original offer and.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Then wasn't the man, Yeah that's fair.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
And then he goes somewhere else and he is pretty
much I think Jayleen, even though Luca does amazing stuff,
I think Jalen Brunson. If I Luk at play defense,
I would give Luca the edge. But right now, I
think there's a one A one B with Jalen Brunson
and Luca because Jalen Brunson won clutch shot of the

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clutch man of.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
The first player. Yeah, and it's I think the I
think the comparison ends a little bit where Brunson was
never going to be the guy he is today playing
alongside Luca, just having two ball dominant guys like that,
whereas McKinnon and ranton In played perfectly together because they

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are both fluid hockey players, scoring and assisting on.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Each other, totally different because they switches fast.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
And it just feels like Brunson was never going to
be what he is now if he had stayed in Dallas,
but ranton In was that guy clearly.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
So did they think Nico was going to be that? Good? God,
what he's doing now, do you think? Vale? Yes, because
this man could be a number one on another team.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
No doubt, because he was their leading points guy on
a Stanley Cup final run three years ago, two years ago,
like he's already won a Cup with Colorado and they
were trying, they had locked up McKinnon, they'd locked up
mccarr and now Rantonen was the third piece that they
needed to get locked up. So flash forward to approaching

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the trade deadline. They still haven't gotten a deal done.
So now you're approaching you know, a lot like you
see in baseball, where a guy is like he's going
to be a free agent at the end of the year.
A team is going to trade for him, but it's
gonna be at it's gonna be you get what you can,
and the other team views him as a rental. So
enter the Carolina Hurricane, who are you know, still alive

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making their own deep run. So they say, oh, Miko
Ranton is available, let's make let's get the deal done.
We'll try to convince him to stay in Raleigh, to
stay in Carolina and sign with us long term. So
they do the deal. Send the the Avs good amount
of I mean, it was a fair trade. It was

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good valid.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
So this was last year.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
This is January, this is February.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
So all this happened, yes this year?

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yes, So Ranson in gets traded to Carolina immediately tells them, guys,
I'm not signing for you. I'm going to go to
free agency in the summer. I appreciate y'all trying to
convince me to stay like I will be. I'm more
than happy to be a part of this organization. Make
a playoff run with.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Y'all treated twice.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
It was very kawuhi ish, where it's like, look, I'm
gonna lead you to a championship Toronto, but just no,
I'm not resigning. I'm leaving. I want to be in
a specific destination. But I'm gonna do everything i can,
like we saw, you know, to win a championship.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
So he's not gonna sit out like another guy you
just said. Correct.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
So Ransonan gets to Carolina and Carolina realizes quickly, Okay,
we've got a decision to make. Either we can flip
him again to try to recoup some assets for what
we just gave up for him, or we can keep him.
Hope we make a deep playoff run, he falls in
love with the city, the fan base, and maybe he'll

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resign for us if we overpay him and we can
money whip him and convince him to stay. Well, Carolina
made the choice to trade him again, which is where
Dallas steps in. So all of a sudden, you know,
Dallas and Colorado or division rivals. Colorado intentionally shipped him
to the East Coast to play for Carolina, where they
would never have to face him in the playoffs unless

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it was a Stanley Cup final. So all of a sudden,
the Stars say, hey, Carolina, let's get a deal done
before we hang up the phone. Rantonan gets traded to Dallas,
and not only that, immediately signs an eight year extension.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
For the number just about to ask if he did
he sign with.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Dallas for the number he wanted from from Colorado. So
over two fifty a year roughly rough.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
He signs the division rivals and they're gonna have to
deal with Nico for the next eight years.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
That's correct.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Oh my god, after trying to classic wild, Dallas is
making a run for the Cup.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
And while Dallas is not only making the run this year,
but you look at their roster construction. You know, outside
of a few guys on the peripheral of the roster,
most of Dallas's core is mid twenties or I mean,
hell Wyatt Johnston, the future captain is only twenty turns
twenty one or twenty two on Wednesday JC. That's a lot.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
It's looking a lot like that.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
With the high end talent all aging together. Like Oklahoma City,
and so that's amazing. All of that being said, I
bet that turns your little Dallas star's heart. I will say,
this little Grinch style, it just grows a little bit.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
It grows.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
It's ironic. I'm wearing a MAVs warm up pull over today.
This actually this, I swear to you. This isn't because
you need to dig that out the closet. This has
Mother's Day connections that we'll get to in a minute.
This wasn't even because of the draft lawyer, but now.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Is you know, just I thought you pulled that out
at the bottom of the closet when Luca got traded,
and it's been sitting there ever since.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Now it just it just just so happened to work
out it now it now has multiple points of it's
just importance.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
But yeah, the.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Thinking back to on average normally, like you, I mean,
you know you love baseball. The amount of guys that
get traded at the trade deadline very very rarely does
one of those guys end up being the quote unquote
missing piece. Like you get a lot, you get a
lot of guys like bullp in arms in baseball, Like, oh,

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it's it's helping the bullpen. But very rarely does there's
a star closer get traded and all of a sudden.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Well he's locked down. We gave Chapman up to Chicago
back in and they got their chip.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
I think the best example I could think of was
when when uh the Astros got Randy Johnson and that
was just such like trade deadline.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Boost Carlos Beltran when he yeah that was a good one.
He went on Arry.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
They didn't win it all, but yeah, same like, yeah,
he went on it. He was always good in the playoffs, Yeah,
I uh, but very rarely, Like how many of those
that was in that's twenty years span.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Right there that we were just talking, we're getting old.
That's forty years, thirty years. But yeah, it's just very
very rarely do you see a guy get traded at
the deadline and then set league records in the middle
of a playoff run two three months later.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
So anything that you can get over on over on Wayne,
especially in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, Wayne or Ovi, yeah, or Sid for that matter.
The uh So that that made for a great sports
viewing weekend because I was pretty bummed after that Friday
night game.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
It looked like, man, he sounded like you were doing
your one wording text me yeah, and I was like, man, man,
they're looking flat. There's no energy, there's nothing there. They're
losing the pup constantly, and you're like, yep.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yep, that's that's. That's about how I felt.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
You know.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
There wasn't ah, there weren't There weren't a whole lot
of signs that this team was going to turn around
and put five on them the next game.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
And then they played there was a completely different team yesterday.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Amazing.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
I was like, dude, like, it's to two in the
set in the second and then all of a sudden
they just poured it on and they just non stop
pressured them so NonStop.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
All of a sudden, it was it was to two,
like you said, ye. And then Petrovic, a guy that
has connections to well help Ranson and actually has connections
to San Antonio as well. Ranson and played on the
Essay rampage back in the day when he was coming
up through the AHL a big time old cut and uh,
Petrovic and ranton In actually played with each other on

(25:47):
the San Antonio rampage back then. And Petrovic is the
guy that yesterday kicked the puck to score the third
goal of the game. And normally you can't kick a
puck in. But after a nine minute.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Long review, that was a long review.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
So you want to know how long it was. If
you notice, go back and watch the broadcast the in
arena DJ up there the reviews taking place. He's playing
the normal they have bits, you know, he's playing the
normal music he plays during a review.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
That play tops three minutes tops.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Because normally, so hockey has a centralized replay center in Toronto,
so the officialballos, the officials have no input at all.
The officials on the ice have zero input in the replay.
It all goes through the league, so the league is

(26:43):
reviewing the tape and then they tell the officials. Right,
So normally, like a three minute replay in hockey is
forever long. That hardly ever happens. Yesterday's replay went so long.
The DJ plays his normal song and then he just
starts playing free Bird from the beginning and for the

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next he's.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Like, this is about nine minute long song. He can't
go along in.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
The next six minutes. Six and a half minutes is
just the entirety of Freebird.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
You're in the solo.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
You're in the guitar solo part as a thousand versus
what happened right in the middle of and also a
guitar solo that was written by a Californian.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Oh uh, not many.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
That's I learned that from the California from the Skinner documentary.
He uh, they're right in the middle of the guitar
solo by the time they make the announcement, so it's
it's literally.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
All together they say it.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
So they said, yes, he kicked the puck, which if
it had gone straight into the net would have been
a disallowed goal. But Hella Buck, the Jets goalie hits
the puck with his stick as it's flying towards him.
Petrovic kicks it towards the goalie. Goalie sees it coming,

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hits it with his stick, and it off of his
stick it went into the net.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
So they had to go deep in the real book
like this one.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
And that's what took so long because I think they
were you know, first of all, is it a kick
or isn't it? Yeah, Okay, we've decided that's a kick.
So now did Hella Buck knock it in himself?

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (28:16):
While making a play on the puck, and you mentioned
after the nine minute delay they allow the goal. It's
now three two Stars and then less than thirty seconds
later Ranton in scores.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
That matagine that not being in Dallas after a nine
minute review and it goes Dallas's way.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, no, I know it's and you've got you've got
an afternoon crowd. Credit to the Stars fans. Man Stars
fans are uh, if you've never watched the Stars game,
I first of all highly suggest jumping in now. But
if you've never been to a Stars game in that arena,
it is uh, it's it's just awesome. It's and it's

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people that if you're a hockey fan in North Texas,
you love the sport. Yeah, you not getting casuals or
randoms that much. Like you're gonna end up sitting next
to some middle aged broad next to you that knows
the opposing team better than you do. She's giving you
scouting reports and you're like, I just met you five
minutes ago.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
So you're not getting those people just being there and
there on their phone the whole time.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
You get yelled at if you're on your phone at
certain inn certain sections. Yeah, no, it's great it's people
that actually care. Told some girls, I was like, maybe
care a little too much. I was like, I will
never invite you back if I'm sitting here talking with
you being like, oh just see that play and you're
on your phone. No you're not getting a ticket. No,
that's that's where that's where I'll take my homie. Yeah,

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one thousand percent.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Uh, we're gonna talk a little.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
The main segment today is obviously NBA Draft Lottery, but
we are gonna do a little bit of NBA Second
Round updates in the main segment as well, So I'll
leave NBA for then. I wanted to run something by
you boys, because Saturday I got into a bit of
a stamp and off at a local restaurant around lunchtime.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
How many girls you beat up?

Speaker 2 (30:09):
It's funny you say that it wasn't just a girl.
It was a group of I say this fully endearingly
time man, it was a group of former softball players.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Oh so you had some Uh they were puffing out
their chests as much as the men, and it looked.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Like a couple of them played catcher. They a girl.
There was definitely some attempt at intimidation throughout, so I'll
start from the top.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
We they were about to swing on you, buddy.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
It almost got to that point, and that's where I say,
like I need to I need to ask the gallery
here if I was truly in the wrong, because I
still if the roommate tells me I was just fine.
Sea So LGD I sent you. It's the video I
sent you from from the roommate that she took, because
we have we have video of it is video not

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of the confrontation, not of the but of the scene,
the scene that we're stepping into. So criticize me, criticize
me all you want, all you want, But every now
and then, about once a month, I get a craving
for those damn shrimp tacos from Torchies.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
You know. That's the only taco I do.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
That's the only one I get.

Speaker 6 (31:33):
It.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
It's like the it's like the with the little sweet sauce.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
It's spectacular and it's only like a once a month
type of taco, isn't it. I think they've added it
now forever I might have to go back there. Yeah,
it's it's worth it again. I understand it is what
it is. Living in San Antonio and going to to business.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
It is the business man, you know. I'm trying to
make you know if I can, if I can make
a Torchies you know.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yeah, Torchies. If you want to sponsor a segment, I
will more than happily. Seeing the praises of the shrimp taco.
So I told the roommate, you know, let's go grab
let's go grab a coach. She gets fried avocado taco.
So that's again I like that. Like we get very
specific orders every time, and it's like once a month went.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
To when it was a food truck before they got
way backrchis.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yeah, you got to go to a little park up
in Austin.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
As any Austin I would tell you that was back
when it was still good. Oh yeah, yeah I can.
I can already hear the snob was different. Yeah, I
could hear the snobbery already. So we go to Torchi's
and first thing as we're walking up, the business next
to them is like a pet grooming, dog grooming area

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or business.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Are we talking about the one over by the quarry,
Yeah yeah, Lincoln Heights, right.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
Yeah, so you're talking about Yeah, I actually take my
dog to that groomer.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Oh well, you will be happy to know LG is
a long drive LG.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
This is not that exact one, but that.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah. So this is what it sounded like as anybody
walked past the dog grooming place, constant constant.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
I, Oh my god, so are you trying to watch
sports again?

Speaker 3 (33:24):
I am a dog lover man, like when I see
a dog in public, like I've you know, I've told
this story where.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
The only real friends that I've got I side to
you two.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
I was like, man, I've stopped and uh and Nikita.
I just got a Nikita and this one had one
that looked like HATCHI. And it's this old Asian neighbor
of mine in a neighborhood like I've never met him,
he doesn't speak any English. I literally stopped the truck,
pull over, start running at this man. And this guy's

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eyes go wide open, and I'm like.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Can I bet your dog squishing his phase? And I'm
like no, Like I get so happy. Yeah, I got
so happy, and as do I normally and not watching sports.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
It made my It made me happy to see. So
the reason all of the barking was there is because
they were doing an adoption event.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Oh yeah, so it's great, Hey, But the problem.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Is they have like seven dogs out there, each in
its own individual cage that all are at different levels
of friendly.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
The aggressive.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Got some aggressive ones, right, which I also love to
see because like, look, they needed they need homes too,
They need to be adopted. They warm up anytime anyone
walks by.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
You get that.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
And you mentioned like, yes, I was watching sports, but
I wasn't. It wasn't like we went there specifically for it.
So I'm fighting through it for the tacos exactly, I'm
fighting through it. But the roommate recorded that video so
we would have evidence because it was absurd.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
It was.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
It was like that non stop the entire time we're there, right,
So Saturday afternoon, you know, it's as golfers like to say,
it's moving day, moving day at the truest. So because
my options were golf, college baseball, it was like Oklahoma
versus somebody.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Uh. And then they just had like.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Chive TV, Like those were the three TVs I had available.
So we walk in, I assess my options. I choose,
all right, we're gonna sit specifically in front of the
TV that has golf on, right, and it's at the
end of the bar, so you clearly you can tell
if someone is sitting there and looking straight up they
are watching that, right.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Correct. And we've been there at this point long enough
where we've had some chips in case o, we're waiting
on our tacos to come out.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Well.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
In behind me comes a group of I just get
this image, three three women, three women walking in and
before so the bartender is like, hey, how are y'all doing?
Before she even responds, she's like, can you change that TV?
And I immediately I'm like, what is going on? And

(36:10):
like who are Like? Who just wants? Yeah, She's like,
we came, we came to watch, and are you ready
for it? We came to watch the James Madison versus
Coastal Carolina Conference Championship softball game. What that is, verbatim
is what came out of her mouth.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
A three, like a three age division division three. Now
it's full one.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
It's full division one. And I noticed one of the
girls had uh Coastal Carolina gear on, so I'm assuming
like she's from one of them. Multiple of them either
went there or even play. I'm telling you, I think
I think that one absolutely played there.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
And she was an ath She looked like a she
looked like a softball players. Very broad, very broad. So
the immediately the girl asks to change the channel, and
I don't say anything. I just kind of look over
my head, like, okay, well there's three TVs. The bartender
clearly sees me looking up at the one on golf.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
So the bartend, oh, please tell me, he says, what
are these three was the bartender was a female as well, buddy, Oh,
you're right. What do these three girls do? They sit
right on the end of the bar, right next to us.
There's only two chairs available, so another one goes and
gets a chair and moves it. I mean they're closer

(37:33):
than me to you, like I could like elbow, like
I'm blocking out for a rebound.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
And an airline. You're like an airline thousand percent.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Again, what it's it's three It's like two o'clock on
a Saturday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
The bar is not busy.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
There's so much space available, multiple TVs, and that's.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Like an international thing where they sit real close to you. Yeah,
Americans are like what in the world.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Special one bigger Americans like us, you know, give me
some space here.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yeah. I was like, these elbows, like this is my
personal space right here. You know.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
As soon as the girls all sit down, the bartender
goes up and immediately starts to change. It was like, hey,
who whoa hold on? Like, there's other TVs. Like I've
been here twenty minutes now, I'm obviously watching that. Yeah,
maybe pick a different TV. And the girls at that
point kind of looked at me like, oh, are we

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gonna have a problem. Didn't say anything yet, but I
could tell all three of them were giving me this
look right here, the kind of.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Lean to the side, and when they whispering to each other.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Started to yeah, and that was again, that was where
it was.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Where it was? Where was Steph? Was she behind you
from She's.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
On the other side, so roommate here? Then me? Then
boom boom boom. Okay, three girls at the end of
the bar, right So I at this point I tell
the bartender I was like, now pick another TV, like
I'm already here watching it. And she starts to be like, well,
do you think you could scoot down and I can

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put it on this tav And I'm like no.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
And at that point I go, no, they have nothing
in their hands.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
They haven't ordered to drive, done anything. Nothing. No one's
ordered a beer, dude, No, this and this is all
within So it gets even better. It turns out they
weren't even drinking. They were just sitting eating. They were eating. Okay,
so they weren't even drinking. They were just eating. But
they wanted to be in the bar. A beverage, the
alcoholic beverage. Trump's TV. B you been there for twenty minutes,

(39:29):
Trump's TV. Right, See the bartender knows this etiquette that
Trump's TV. When someone's already sitting there watching it, they'll
at least go open ask you. I don't think the
bartender was playing on my team, let's just put it
that way. She was more than happy to accommodate the
group of three ladies requesting college softball than she was
to keep golf on the TV.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Anything for my old And I'm trying to keep this
politically correct.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
No, it's buddies, trust me. Like, as we're sitting there,
I'm I'm like running through the simulation of how this ends,
like this is not there's there are very few similations
where it ends well for me.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
The room, if that ever pops off, if they ever
went sideways and you're having to swing on three softball players.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
So you camera rolls, the camera rolls. Yeah, she doesn't
get involved, she stands back, and she records it. So
what I need proof of that.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
What I told her is you remember how whenever sometimes
you're driving and you flip someone off and then we
see it's a dude, and it's like, well, if he
follows us, who's gonna be the one fighting.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
It's gonna be me, not you.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
So I told her Saturday. I was like, hey, you
remember all those times I told you quit flipping people
off because I don't want to have to do anything.
This was a moment where you were gonna have to
do something like you're the one stepping in and taking
those three on by yourself, and then I can step
in and defend you. And we get a few jabs
in myself in self defense.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
But no it if they hit me, I hit them.
I'm a feminist. It's equality.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Long story short, the uh I lost the battle. You
lost it.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
You stand your ground. I did, Karen. I need to
see the manager, the manager right now, the bartender to this,
the bar. What makes this is not there's rules.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
There are rules, Donnie.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
The one saving grace. I will say I gave up
the fight because I ran the simulation and decided this
is not worth it to let them put the softball on.
But I told the jig it was like, hey, put
golf on the other TV though, like you said you would.
And then she's like well uh, and I was like no,
do it, like do it?

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Do it?

Speaker 2 (41:44):
You said you could do it. Do it like I've
now seated this TV. Go put it on the other
one for yourself. So the girls a thousand, It gets
even better. I got straight passive aggressive with this ship.
The girls at that point had the goal to say,
do you mind screw down?

Speaker 3 (42:02):
So the rest of the day, bro, I would have
called my I got some hard hitting homegirls the rest
of the day, like I need you now.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
The rest of the afternoon as we sat there, it
was like when a girl would hit a ball to
the shortstop and'd be like, oh, checks out, she's got.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
No pop a routine play, and then it's like I
was openly like, you can't get that routine play.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
At one point I think I've verbatim said, you know,
that's just not going to work against this James Madison offense.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Going play knew, like I.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Just full backhanded, like, man, yeah, this Coastal Carolina team,
we all knew they were paper tigers.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
That's not that's not going to cut it.

Speaker 5 (42:44):
No, we all knew.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
I mentioned quickly. I'll close it out with some Mother's
Day here, because.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Happy mother's Day, as you swing on a girl, that's correct. Yeah,
happy Mother's Day.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
I mentioned so this. I wore this to Phil Jackson's
last game he ever coached.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
It was uh affectionately known up in North Texas as
the Mother's Day Massacre, if you'll remember, was when Andrew
bynem elbow JJ Berea knocked him out of mid air
buying them, gets ejected, rips his jersey off, never plays
another game for the Lakers. Phil Jackson retires. After the game,
MAVs finally beat the Lakers in a playoff series, uh

(43:23):
and beat them by forty I do remember that it
was a great It was one of one of my
greatest sports moments ever. And I was that guy. It
was a blue out in the arena, and I wore
this so like still to this day. I'll pull up
footage because you can see where we're sitting and there's
one guy not wearing blue, and it's this giant guy

(43:45):
and this.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Wanted a blue out right, just the one guy wearing
this old school stunts like.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
I'm not wearing the shirt.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
So yeah, it works out now because obviously we're about
to talk about the NBA Drive Lottery. But let me
ask you all this good bit or bad bit. Did
you catch any of the Tigers Rangers game on Sunday
or any of this weekend?

Speaker 1 (44:10):
I saw highlights.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Okay, for those that don't know, there's a San Antonio
connection to that game because Josh Young and his younger
brother Jace Young, both San Antonio kids, both played at
Texas Tech and now are both in the major leagues.
Both played third base over the weekend. So we got

(44:36):
first of all. First bad bit, or let me ask
the gallery. The first bad bit was their mom. They
presented their mom a split jersey.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
No the old split jersey that was half Tigers.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Half Rangers. They gave her that before the game on
Mother's Day. It's kind of a bad bit. It's been
done before them to know it's now and you know
when you see it, it's.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
Like I'd be like I would I would each have
like a jersey of my own and you bowl up
to your mom and you both give them the jersey
and you just be like, who's the.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Good it's a three game series. I don't know, just
switch them out.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
I would like my mom would have laughed and probably
thrown both the jerseys on the ground and probably ripped
off and wore an Oklahoma state jersey.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
So like that would have cleared the other bad bit.
So they're both playing third base. They played tic tac
toe with each other in the dirt like it was
a little league.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Good bit. That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
I liked I like that bit better than the split jersey.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
I bet if the Rangers one, you'd like that bit.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Well, we won the series.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
We did. Man Tigers, they're like they're better. They are.
I don't think they can sustain.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
No, they have the pitching stuff, but yeah, but they're
one game.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Lay there, one game they're almost no.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
They It was a it was a good weekend for
the Rangers with some questionable bits sprinkled in there. You know,
it was a good weekend to for tell me, the
Yankees A hit it with me many fun fact for
you to go go.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
So we got we won this series against the Padres,
who were hot. They had the number one bullpen in
the league. We had the number two bullpen in the league,
and we gave up once again. We cannot find a
closer to save our lives. We brought in the Brewers closer,
who was probably one of the best closers in the game,

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but now he's turned into the setup guy and we
have a Weaver who was supposed to be our closer.
He ended up blowing the same for us once again,
but that would have made a sweep. But Aaron Judge
continues to hit home runs, continues to hit over four hundred,
He leads the he leads all of baseball and home runs,

(47:00):
batting average, hits. Is that good RBIs? So if there's
a triple crown, what's the what's the quadruple crown? Oh,
that's what I want to know, because that's what Aaron
Judge is gonna win. I swear to God put money
on it. No, don't, don't come to.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Me if we lose that one.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
But we just we just put our double digits on
the Athletics. We're playing Seattle tonight. We were playing them
right now as we speak. That is my Yankees minutes.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
You mentioned Aaron Judge is insane start. So I have
some numbers for you. I love baseball numbers. Baseball is
a sport where I love numbers more than anything else.
So since the year two thousand, Aaron Judge has the
third best batting average through forty games.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
So that's each year, that's each year old time.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah, yeah, stretching into that the year two Surprisingly, Eachiro
isn't on this list for best forty games to start
a season since two thousand, but some of the names
surprisingly this this one kind of jumps out. Hoosea Gleasias
with the Red Sox started the season four point fifteen.
Throose first forty games in twenty thirteen, and then the

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rest of the names are exactly who would you who
you would expect, Great Marlins legend, Juan Pierre even though
he did this with the Dodgers back in O Night,
Joe Mauer, Twins, Victor Martinez, Indians, Chipper Manny Todd Helton.
I mean we're talking right. So the only people that

(48:33):
have had a better forty game average to start a
season since the year two thousand Iglesias with the Red
Sox and then Chipper in eight hit four to ten.
But judge at four oh nine right now, just an in.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
You shouldn't be saying you shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Be that big, that powerful and still that good of
a contact.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
He just knows how Like he hits it so hard.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
The ones that go infield ground they can't catch up
to him, you know, and he does. He's not the
slowest person in the world, so he can beat out
like if you go deeper into like deeper into the
big he moves.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
He was playing center field last year?

Speaker 2 (49:13):
How did that go?

Speaker 1 (49:14):
He was amazing? You set me up.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
I was already ready to ask how his fielding was
this year?

Speaker 1 (49:24):
LG.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Do you have anything from the weekend before we get
into the main segment here?

Speaker 5 (49:30):
Ah, Man, I just did Mother's Day? Did my thing?

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Man cooked?

Speaker 5 (49:33):
I cooked dinner for my mom, brought her over here.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Still, what was on the menu? Tell us?

Speaker 5 (49:39):
I did a Japanese beef curry and rice.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Man, that sounds good.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Japanese beef curry. So it's like an Indian Japanese fusion.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
It's somewhat indian Ish, just less Indian, less spicy.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
I would say, does curry, Oh yeah, yeah, all over,
that's just an Asian thing, I guess, yeah, for the
most part.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Yeah, it was good. Good.

Speaker 5 (50:03):
We had a good time.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Where's my play?

Speaker 5 (50:05):
And we got some we had place, we had some
uba cake bub cake.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Yeah, yeah, that's never heard, dude.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
I got some in the fridge.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
If you want to try, you should try something afterwards. Yeah,
it's it's you're out of it. It wasn't in the fridge.

Speaker 5 (50:18):
You must have gone in there before.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Well then you and you didn't even realize it. All right,
Well we've almost gone an hour here already. Let's get
into the main segment.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
What's so close?

Speaker 2 (50:31):
What an insane draft lottery?

Speaker 1 (50:33):
What your stupid team had one point nine percent chance?

Speaker 2 (50:38):
They had one hundred percent chance when the league mandated
they trade Luca to the biggest market. You okay, I
want to, I want to. I don't want to spend
the whole time talking about how the league is rigged.
But let me tell you. Let me just let's just
look at the data.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
The year after Lebron left Cleveland, who won the lottery?

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Cleveland?

Speaker 2 (51:04):
And that was Kyrie. The year after the CP three trade,
who won the lottery? When CP three was traded out
of New Orleans back when they were still the Hornets.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
That was was that Zion? That was a d ad.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
The next year, the Brown Pelicans, now rebranded as Pelicans,
win the lottery. They get a d after losing CP three.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Cleveland was horrible for sure, so was New Orleans. Mavericks
were damn near playing well.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
The Cleveland the Cabs won the year after Lebron left.
That was they weren't horrible. That was still like they
had just had Lebron all those years. But they got, uh, yeah,
they got I think they had like a I think
theirs was like a four or five percent chance. It
wasn't one point eight like the MAVs. But the MAVs
aren't even the lowest.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Was still single digits.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Yeah, the Maps aren't even the lowest odds to ever
win the lottery. So the year after the a D
trade to LA who wins the lottery? You've already said it, yeah,
Zion to the Pelicans. And now I see a year
after the LUCA the MAVs with a one point eight

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percent chance, a team that has never ever moved up
one time in the Draft lottery in their entire existence.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
So they've always gone where they're going supposed to go,
or below.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Or below yep, and you remember, uh, the most recent
example the Luca year, they were supposed to have a
number two pick and they felled a three. Oh my god,
I think that that was right before the league changed.
How the odds are waited.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
So I'm just hoping Nico's gonna Nico and be the
wild card man that he is. And Okay, there's a
there is there is pick Cooper.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
There is an above zero percent chance that Cooper flag
at place for the MAVs.

Speaker 5 (52:57):
Yes, there's still percentage.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
You're telling me there's a chance.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Again, like, we're not gonna get lost in the conspiracy,
conspiratorial side of this. But there's a reason people believe
the envelope frozen for you ing, there's a reason people
believe the Spurs have gotten lucky a couple of times,
the Wimby one specifically, But we have there's a reason

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the Pelicans immediately lose massive stars in a small market
and win the lottery of the next year.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Why would they get Okay, so the Lebron the Lebron.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Year the first time the Calves didn't have top five
picks their top five odds in that year to win Lebron.
But he's an acron kid in the league said, the
Calves are going to win this. You'all all have to understand,
calm down.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
They need a chanceship.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
We're creating a narrative here.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
Yeah, a Midwest something in the mid something good needs
to happen in the Midwest for the NBA.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Yeah, well, first time since Jordan's and in Chicago.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
But so you're saying the NBA screwed the Spurs out
of Cooper Flag.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
I think I'll buy it. I think if you want
to believe that the NBA told the MAVs, look part
of the Adelson's buying the team, you have to agree
to trade Luca to La and then in return, we
will give you the number one pick to get Cooper Flag.

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And so all parties, we get a marketable star ready
to play for the Lakers, be the face of the
franchise as soon as Lebron retires. MAVs, it's gonna suck
to lose Luca, but we'll give you Cooper Flag. You
get another generational talent. Everybody wins the league interest skyrockets.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
And Dallas is still a big market. It's a huge market.
It's a Toms fark mark. So now you've got a
free market.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
As they say, another I hate the generational player because Wimby, Yes,
that's a generational player. Cooper, can I see him playing
for fourteen years. Yes, But I don't think he's generation So.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
The different I'll give you this the when I say generational,
I mean someone from his generation that is going to
be a Hall of Famer that is more mixed Celtics updates.
The When I say generational, I mean out of his generation,
he is a Hall of Famer. When we talk about
someone like Wemby that is transcendent, that is that transcends

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just being a simple Hall of Famer, that is a Lebron,
that's a magic that's a potential top ten all time player. Yeah,
not someone that's just the best of his generation, but
someone that transcends his generation to climb the all time rink.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
He's transcendent generation. Now, I got to figure out a
better word for that.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
It's a lot of long words jumbled together, and I'm
already discombobulated. I'm surprised I got him out. The I
think if you're talking about the quality of the prospect
and comparing Cooper flag to Wimby's, the higher quality of course,
But if you're comparing Cooper Flag to any other player
that's been taken first in the last ten years, no

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one's close.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
I mean, yes, Stephen Castle the Rookie of the year, Yeah,
but he was yeah, yeah, I'm just thinking.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
I'm thinking of guys. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Cooper Flag is the best player to come in and
make an impact immediately. I think, even more than Wimby's
rookie year.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
He grades out incredibly well. Also, when you remember he
doesn't even turn eighteen until December. He reclassified to play
at Duke this year. This should have been his senior
year of high school.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
I thought he was like nineteen.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
He's one of he's the youngest, he's i think second
youngest player available in the draft.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
And the NBA screwed us out of it.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Well, I look, I think, okay, enough of the MAVs
aspect of it, because for whatever, for whatever reasons, Cooper
Flag is going to be in Dallas. Nico's they I
don't think trading the number up pick for Jannie or
Devin Booker or anybody like that is going to give

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you the value of what Cooper Flag potentially could. Just
when you think about how young he is exactly. So
let's see the interesting side of this tonight, though, is
the fact that the Spurs jumped all the way up
to second overall, and as we think about potential.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Trades, this makes the world, This makes.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Everything so much more easy, easier to see happening, because
that is true ammunition in a draft that's loaded.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
So let's go first, because we all know I want
to get to the Gianna's second. But give me, because
you're the college guy, give me the players that we
could draft a second that if we kept the pick.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Yeah, and if we kept the pick.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
The interesting one of my favorite guys mc tittle, mcdiddle,
which one m mcdidell think, I don't think it's I
don't know what, like, what's that guy's name?

Speaker 2 (58:06):
While there's your favorite might be con Ca Nipple.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
The Spurs move all the way up to get the
second pick, uh, and then they also have the fourteenth pick.
Canipple probably won't be there at fourteen, but that would
be more realistic than it too. Of Course, the interesting
thing when it comes to consensus, who the you know
smart the people that think they're smarter than everybody else.
When it comes to projecting, these types of uh talents.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
ESPN has Dylan Harper. They say Harper fits Dallas better
than Couber Flag.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Well, that's insane, and that's why ESPN has stephen A
and Kendrick giving you basketball opinions and not like yeah,
I mean that that's par for the course with the
ESB big the you know, Dylan Harper is the consensus
number two guy in this class, kid from Rutgers, from
an NBA pedigree, But the problem he is a straight

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shooting guard, point guard. It's that same kind of blend
of state. He's basically a higher projected rank than Steph Castle.
But they do a lot of the same things. I mean,
they're not the same player. I don't like, I'm not
comparing them on the court, but positionally and in terms

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of how it is going. He's just six to six,
I mean, good size. He's a lot like Devin Booker,
that kind of shooting guard where.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
It's like, no, it's great play off the corner. It's
a good asset to have.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
But if you're the Spurs line you have Daran, potentially
it would be darn Steph Harper that you're trying to
find a blend where those three guys can spend a
majority of their time on the court together, and then
Wemby and whoever else. Right now, it would still be
Barnes at the four. But yeah, I mean I think

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the swing is wemb Be playing for and having a
more defensive center. But you're not taking that guy with
the second pick in the draft either.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
No, all of the people that you're potentially looking at
for that number two pick are all kind of not
guys that you don't need, because Dylan Harper would be
an upgrade over everyone on the roster.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Not going we need another shooter and ball handler, but
we also need a center.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
See and this is where it gets interesting, because there
is a center available who has finished top three in
MVP voting five straight years, has won a championship in
a small market, knows what it takes. Of course, we're
talking about Giannis. Yes, so the question, now, we talked
last week. You were very uncomfortable with the idea of

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giving up Steph Castle in a deal, and now we
have the chip. But let me let me counter one
more time. I know I'm I'm not looking to ship
up Steph. I'm not looking to get Steph out of town.
I'm just saying on paper, yeah, Dylan Harper is a
much better prospect than Stephan Castle was the guy that's

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going to be available there at number two.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
He was a better prospect and he's in like right now, right.
But Stephan Castle, we've seen what he is. He has
grown right and we've seen them the beginning of the year,
and that just makes me think of a Kawhi Like
Kawhi was a wasn't a superstar whatsoever, and we saw
him grow into one of the best players two way
players in the league.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
And I think that's something Steph Castle can get to,
no doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
And I think I think the room, the room for
growth there is very similar. When I watch Steph Castle,
I see a guy that is uh Russell Westbrook plus
three inches just in terms of athleticism, but like you
jump all right, all of the talk, all of the
uh A narrative and conversation around Russ Westbrook for the

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last five six years is very very different than the
guy that was growing and learning to be an NBA
player those first few years in Oklahoma City. Russ was
one of the most exciting players in the league as
he developed and kind of figured out what he was
going to be in the league because.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Again, he was a guy that was he was never
reliable shooter. No, he was.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
And let's wait and see about Castle too. I mean,
I don't think. I don't think he's second. Second, second,
completely agree, and we've seen We've also seen he.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Was shooting almost fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
We've also seen seasons where Russ's efficient shooting numbers are
top of the league.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
I think those were like Tony Parker's where I know,
I know, but Steph Castle's true field goal shooter is
three pointers good. I think the question this, this is
where if we if we're going to give up Steph Castle,
we can make the argument to Milwaukee and say, Dylan
Harper's better on paper, right, so you're basically getting the

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same guy, sure, or a better version. Yeah, but we
already got step Castle. He knows our system, so I
think we can make that argument.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
So the interesting thing to me will be exactly what
Milwaukee wants, because if you're a Milwaukee you know when
teams are looking at It didn't happen with Luca because
that whole situation was just fried and sour and manipulated
behind the scenes. But usually when a premiere talent has

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made it known that they're avail like we're getting get
shopped around trade in the middle of the night and
we're getting you know, granted, it's not it's still a
whole lot. It's not a whole lot of concrete reporting,
but we are starting to get the reports of Janis
would be open to exploring opportunities outside of Milwaukee or
I saw the click baity headline today. Jannis is intrigued

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by the idea of playing in a state that doesn't
have income tax.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
He's, yeah, he's trying not to be the drama queen
classic I want out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
One thousand percent. But I think he also owes it
to the or to the franchise at some point to
be like, guys, I won you a championship.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
We've reached the end of our road. It's like, get
you can for me?

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Yeah yeah, He's like, come on, y'all, like y'all had
nothing Milwaukee, right, what what were you?

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Yeah? I got you a championship, right, almost almost got
you a second one, something lou Alsinder couldn't do for you,
Like I did that. So now spread So that's where
the really you know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Again, we've got you know, NBA Draft is until June
twenty fifth. We've now got the conversation set up for
the next month and a half to really really decide
one what Milwaukee wants in a package. Because if Milwaukee wants,

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if they're less concerned about players now and more concerned
about draft capital, that's perfect for the Spurs. We'll give
you the We'll give you a second pick, fourteenth pick,
and five future first or whatever the number like we'll do.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
We'll just get grab out the bag and we'll and
we'll give.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
You Keldon and a collection of salary to match Giannie's number,
you know, probably like Keldon Vissel and five picks, six picks,
something crazy like that, Like this is the top of
my head. Oh, I would too, But eventually you've got Keldon.
You got too many. He was great off the bench
this year, but eventually you've got too many heads to

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pay if you're bringing in a guy at Jannie's number.
So if the Bucks want more future first round picks,
that's a match made in heaven. Let's start talking and
iron this out, and y'all get ready to start scouting
who you're gonna take second overall again. If you're the Bucks,

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it's going to be really, really hard to not start
your trade off or negotiation with Steph Castle number two pick.
Oh yeah, and if you give us both of those,
we'll ask for less future first round picks, because you
could argue the Bucks would then be looking at all, right,
we have two building blocks that we can start to

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build around as we reset things. And again, the Spurs
would be in that scenario getting a guy that's every
year they can ask whatever they want every year, he's
top three in MVP, So you would have to be saying,
do you think do you think Steph Castle will ever
be top three in MVP voting for half a decade straight? No?

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
No, yeah, I see what you're saying on that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
But do you think Dylan Harper, anyone you take with
the number two pick, would ever achieve that?

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
Not with Wimby, not with Cooper, not with like I mean,
he could be like Cooper could be like the Joker,
you know, could be I mean, Wimby's gonna be up
there and the all he's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Giannas's not going to be there too.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
There's no no, I mean, I'm just saying, yeah, yeah,
but like, can we agree that Giannis looks like he
lost a step I think I think he's on the
it's still I mean he's up there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
He's on the athlete on the time because he's thirty's
but it's going down.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
So no, you're not going to get our youngest player
and the number two pick in this draft. You get
Vasella like and all those other people, and we'll give
you one of the other, which I still think we shouldn't.
We should take Stephan Castle off the board and be
like Dylan Harper's graded a lot better than Stephan Castle.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Yeah, no, and I think that would be again, we're
absolutely and we'll give you the fourteenth. We're absolutely dealing
in hypotheticals here. Yeah, I mean, yeah, you can have
the fourteenth. Hell what takes some Yeah, like what exactly?
I just I think are going to get now that
the Spurs have this level of ammunition, the rumors are

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only going to intensify or only going The smoke is
only going to grow.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
Twin Towers a back that I swear to God, we're
gonna hear that for the next month. I think.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
I think at the end of the day, even though
Jannie is thirty, if you're telling me especially in a
in a Western conference. Outside of Oklahoma City, the rest
of the West is wide ass open. There's no team,
I mean outside of Houston's young core, there's no other
team that has a No other team in the West

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has a young core like OKAC or Houston.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
They're all fading out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
They're all fading. So we're in this transitional period. So
once again Oklahoma City is showing they might not be read,
they might not have enough playoff experience yet to get
past a team like Denver.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
That was the last year.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
That's the Thunder last year against Dallas, who had been
in the Western Conference finals two years before that and
had started to pay their dues.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Thunders still haven't.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Even played in a conference finals yet with this group,
so as good as they are on paper, they're still
learning how to win in the playoffs. We saw the
Houston struggle against the winning pedigree of the Warriors. Learning
how to win in the playoffs together as a group.
That is such a large part of taking that next
step as a group of just learning how to win

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close playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Soda.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
But I don't think there again, they don' don't think
they have a young corus ants.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
They have ant and then you know Randall Goberts on
the other side of thirty. Randall's right there at it.
So on paper, just looking at spurs potential roster construction
going into next year in a Western conference where you
add let's say you add Dylan Harper at number two.

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So now you've got Dianan Fox, steph Castle, Dylan Harper,
Wimby and under this scenario, Harrison barn and just still
your starting four.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Do we have them on another Yeah, one more year.
He's got one more year left, so solid starting five.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Or in another scenario you have Dearon Fox, Wimby, Harrison
Barnes and then Giannis Yeah, and maybe Champagne or.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
What I mean, Stephan you didn't even have Stephan Castle.
Stephan Castle.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Oh, I'm suggesting we give them both. I'm just it's
what it's gonna do. Guys like that don't get like
who's the closest, Like Gobert was worth five first round pick,
Michel Bridges five first round, six first round, we have
fourteen first rounders in the next completely agree, but I
say specifically both of those guys because they are fringe

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all stars at the best. The last time an envy again,
you have to remove the Luca trade from all of
this talk.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Break my heart, man, but I don't think it I
And this is where.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Like I'm still not I'm not sold either way. I'll
be completely honest, Like, I just like to talk both
scenarios out because usually without hesitation, I would say, if
you have the opportunity to trade for a guy that
has finished top three in MVP voting for the last
five years, you do not hesitate. YEA perfect example the

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Stars to get Ranton in from Carolina, they gave up
Logan Steinkovin, one of their biggest prospects, a dude who
was a part of the playoff run last year, was
in his second year in the league, which is what
Castle would be going into. Stink is gonna be a
stud for Carolina. But you just got a guy that
is potentially a top three player in the league.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Okay, So the last point I want to make on
the MVP vote voting is Jannis was someone who could
carry the Milwaukee Bucks on his back to long playoff
runs to a championship.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
He can't do that anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
So, yes, he has the stats because he carries Milwaukee
on his back.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
He has the rebounds. He has the points per game.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Drew Holiday and Middleton before the end Middleton, So that
Bucks team wasn't just Yannis and a bunch of scrubs
from the way.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
But we're talking about MVP Honis, Yeah, we were talking
about v We're talking about I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
That also this year m VP Nis because he's going
to be third and vote he was. But that Bucks
team couldn't get past the first round, so you can't.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
So you got to add that to the value of
Lillard's injury, who was out with the They weren't getting
past the blood clot They weren't getting past there with Lillard.
I tend to agree with you, but I also don't
just automatically assume that because I think when you have
a healthy Lillard to pair with Giannis, you have a

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chance to beat anybody in a playoff series. Now the
chance might be lower than fifty, but but I think
the I think the amount of uh talk of Yannis
not being worth the assets it's gonna take. And here's
the other thing, it's not just the spurs. I mean

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Jannis is gonna have if if these reports are true
true that he is open to the idea of leaving.
Now Houston's got is gonna let him go where he
wants to go, or I think Milwaukee's gonna take the
best offer at the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
I think when you're a small market team like that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
To Charlotte or something, if that's the best offer, yeah,
I mean, high draft pick, I think you gotta do.
You gotta do something to rebuild if you're Milwaukee, because
the only way you're gonna rebuild is to either get
lucky and joannest was what the sixteenth overall pick. It
wasn't like Jannis was a huge profits.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Take all our first rounders that we got from other
teams that are still gonna be crappy. You know what
I'm saying, You will give you all those first rounds
because we're gonna be making playoffs. Yeah, you know, but
we'll see how that plays out now, I think, and that's.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Where again, over the next month and a half, the
questions are going to be are the Spurs trading the
pick if they're not, who's the guy that we're circling,
because I mean they've shown in the past obviously, just
because the consensus says Dylan Harper is the second best prospect.
It doesn't mean who that's who the Spurs are going

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to take. They're gonna take the guy that they believe
in the most at number two, wherever that lands on
the consensus mock draft. But I just think the the
rush to say that the Spurs aren't doing something specifically
because Steph Castles untouchable. I'm just not ready to say

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if Steph Castle is untouchable in a Yannis trade, you're
basically saying Steph Castle is untouchable period, I think. And
that is a big, big stretch to make off of
just what we saw his rookie year. It's not like
he came in historically great rookie year either.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
We saw growth.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
I think that's the biggest Like, you can come in
and have an historic rookie year, but if you don't
see growth, that's what you're getting. Yeah, you know, but
the fact that we saw growth is where I'm like,
I'm hooked on them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
I think if it if Castle ever is included in
a deal for you, honest, it's absolutely gonna there's going
to be a very clear split, kind of like the
split we see right now with Mitch Johnson getting the job.
There's a bunch of people that are like, oh yeah,
support the Spurs if they think he's the best guy
for the job. I'm full team Mitch. There's other guys

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that are like, where there the freaking Spurs man. We
don't need to be signing G League coaches.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
We but he came up through the system, sure, exactly
like Steph Castle, like coaches coach Tree came up through
the systems and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
But there were a lot of more accomplished guys from
that coaching tree available.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
Is he Is he a better leader of men? Sure?

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
That's where I just love the when it got down
to the top four, When it when I realized the
Spurs and MAVs we're both gonna have top four picks.
There's a fifty percent chance Cooper flag is playing somewhere
in Texas at that point. And then when we got
through picks four and three, respectively, and it was down

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to either Spurs or MAVs. I'm not gonna lie my
recent stance on MAVs basketball. It was the most it's
been tested over the last three months. Because then then
my head like, I'm like man watching watching Cooper paired
up with Wimby. That's the perfect pairing. They would be

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so great together for a decade plus. But also, like
you know, my poor grandma, she still talks. She still
can't understand why they traded Luca. Happy Mother's Day, But Grandma,
this would at least make my grandma feel better.

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
Like grandma. Man, Mom, Man, we want Cooper flag. I
thought we were getting it. I was like, get out
of here, man, No.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Look again, not to be conspiratorial. You knew, you knew.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Because of all, I was pretty I was pretty confident
what was gonna happen? I didn't. I didn't really believe it.
But then when Dallas got put in the top four,
I said, it's a lot. Dallas is gonna Dallas is
getting the first pick. The NBA is absolutely NBA.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
Is absolutely rigging that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
All right, Well, as I said, the next we'll skip
the round, second round, We'll talk NBA second round on
Wednesday night. We got to get to the lightning round
before we get out of.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
Here, all right, Man, We got one of my favorite stories.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
I watched the ESPN the Kansas City Werewolf got thirty
two years for ribbing all them places while traveling to
watch the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
Kind of a great bit though. So for those that
don't know, this is the Kansas City super fan, the
chief aholic. He would travel to road games and on
his way there would literally rob a bank to get
money to cover the trip. And he's robbing these different
banks and random places where he has no connection, just
as he drives through on his way to the game.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Wole doc.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
I watched it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
It was great.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Hit me LG. Could you imagine being Kendrick Perkins doing
NBA pregame coverage and you say something as stupid as
he normally says, and the man sitting next to you
is Michael Jordan, who tells you to your face, that's
the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You don't know ball.
We're not gonna we're not going to get that on ESPN,

(01:18:46):
but we might get that when Jordan tells Reggie Miller
on NBC. Jordan is involved in some capacity. So we
got the news last year. Head huh, Yeah, it's it's
very I don't see him doing that, No, I don't.
It's not gonna be He's not gonna be like Barkley
or regular. Yeah, not a regular. He's gonna be a

(01:19:07):
contributing analyst. As I think the way they framed it.
But we got the news last week NBC is bringing
back the old round Ball Rock by John to the
babblah blah blah blah Basketball, which that song absolutely has
real words if you've ever heard John.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
Tesh tell the story of how he wrote it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
So not only do we get the old round Ball Rock,
but we're gonna get Michael Jordan himself doing studio work
for NBC. Oh, I'm there for yeah, very nineties, I'm.

Speaker 7 (01:19:33):
There for it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
Hit me LG. That's my favorite. The Knicks win.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
Oh we have a spursis we have a Celtics Knicks?

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
Oh yeah, man, three to one, Knicks are winning this series.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
So you said, what ninety nineties something for ninety five
ninety four and a half percent of the time.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
Man, I love me some Brunson. I love me some
Jalen Brunson.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
He is what's there to not lie?

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
I mean, he like me if Derrick Rose just throws
his body at the whole, less explosive, but yeah moxie.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Yeah, like the mox.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
Like Rose, but like he will get to the rim,
throw his body around and get the ball in the
basket somehow, some way, it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
It's lukash I'm playing below the rim like that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
Yeah, it's it's it's fifty year old man at the
y that whips your ass up and down the court
playing pickup and you're just like, how the hell can
I not stop this?

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
I used to play with a one armed man racquetball
and he would kill me.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Yeah, that's you might not want to admit that to
the masses.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Hit me LG.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
We talked a couple of weeks ago. We were doing
Berman impersonations. I can't remember how it came.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
Up and boom goes the Dinamo.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
Ah, that's right, that's right. So uh Berman is it
signs an extension with ESPN. He's gonna end up being
their first employee for to reach the fifty year mark
with the company.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
He's gonna be He's gonna be with that company for
fifty years. How is he eighty? Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
Yeah, he's deceptively old.

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
He's like not gonna be like Jones old John John
Maddon type stuff, where he was like wheel him out
to do stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
You want to take to take a guess right now,
Chris Berman age for seventy nine, Okay, you overshot.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
He's seventy seventy. Okay, so he started in his twenty he.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
Just turned seventy. Yeah, started ESPN launched what was it
seventy nine?

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
Yeah, gotta be fifty years old because he started with them.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Yeah maybe I think I don't think it's I don't
think they're fifty yet. But over the course of Berman's
extension he signed, he will hit the fifty year mark.
So yeah, it's crazy to think that Berman is the
only one of all of that, the old Bobbley and
that old school crew. Hit me LG. You know, we

(01:21:57):
can't go an episode without a little Cowboys talk. We uh,
we got word?

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
We can.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
I think we can probably already schedule our first watching
party NFL Open Versus Thursday, September fourth, up in Philly.

Speaker 1 (01:22:13):
Cowboys are open, pushed right out the building.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
Did you see the little meme I've did of George
Pickens the first game I've.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Seen all the Pickens memes. Keep them coming, Keep them coming,
I love it, Keep them coming.

Speaker 3 (01:22:29):
Pittsburgh does have a history of trading players when they're
about to while.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
Out, but usually they're not twenty. Usually they're not.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
You.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
Yeah, look, hey, don't let me. I'm still riding the
high of the Cowboys. Cowboys far so low that them
training for George Pickens feels like they just did the
EMMITTT Smith or the Herschel Walker trade again. Yeah, it
feels like it's that monumental.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
I know it's not, but the much feel good about them.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Real quick NFL. The Derek Carr retirement is it just
makes it. But it makes the Tyler Shuck draft pick
even more questionable. The highest they've taken, they know how
much did they know? What were they actually expecting?

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
Did car know before the draft? Did he just sharp
stick the Saints? He doesn't seem like that type of guy.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
No, But it also feels like the Saints if they
had maybe known fully known that he was going to retire,
I think they would have been a lot more interested
in trading back into the first round for a potential
Jackson Dart Maybe maybe guys well, I think SA doors
those meet those meetings sound like they were just God god.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Off gave me one more time.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
The Browns and showed up and the Sanders family have
told the Giants that they release the Shadors Sanders interview tape,
they will soothe them.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
Was that official or was that ball sack or was that?
I think that's a reference. I think I think it's true.
I think it's true.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
I think because everybody was talking so much smack against
you know, the giants, and they're all about their image.
They don't want that tape out because like, I think
they're doing hard knocks again, aren't They're.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
Like, are they? No?

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
I can't remember who the I can't remember who the now.
I'm distracted by Celtics nixts. I think Jason Tatum just
ruptured in Achilles or touring.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
Ye give me one more. I got tolling and I
can get out.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
We keep promising. I've got a whole idea for for
people of our age that remember eBaum's world back in
the day. LG can back me up here. You remember
e Bomb's world, right, It's like, oh yeah, how would
you what's the best way you would describe it?

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
It was kind of like an original.

Speaker 4 (01:25:08):
It was like an early like Reddit or like like
a big dot com kind of with videos, kind of
chiv college humor.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Yet together and there was you were getting. It was
everything you were getting, like I never got that flash
uh you know, animation, cartoons. You were getting some stuff
that probably should have been on like rotten dot com,
Like I.

Speaker 5 (01:25:32):
Think I forgot about Rotten.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
It was like a four Chan.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
It was very Yeah, all those So eventually we're gonna
do a segment called Ebomb's Corner instead of E Bomb's World,
where I find because the Exploding Well video trying to
get to for three weeks though, or three episodes, that's
gonna be an e bombs Corner. But we just don't

(01:25:56):
have time. But LG, I sent you, uh, do you
have that world series video available? Because I want to No, no, no, no,
it's a good one, especially for the earlier especially for
our Catholic audience. This is footage of.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
Our new pope thrown out the first pick.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
No, just in the crowd. He's a he's a South
Cider song stand. Play the video, l G.

Speaker 6 (01:26:26):
There are two strikes away from a win here in
two thousand and five in game one with James on
the mound and Everett at the plate there in.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
The crowd streak.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
That's kind a good game.

Speaker 3 (01:26:42):
Did you hear did you hear his brother's underrogatory about Nancy?

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
Of course, I mean, look, you're gonna get He's like,
I just got the gig man, you gotta come on,
let me, let me get comfortable in my.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
New core white smoke is still blowing, man.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
Yeah, just the idea, the concept like, not only did
we get our first American pope and the rest of
the world is learning his whole background and everything, but
the fact that he saw Jinks close out a world
series for the White Sox just it kind of blows

(01:27:18):
a little bit. Mark Burley. What was the other rotational
pieces of those Yeah, they those White Sox teams. Uh
Paul Knerko, the great Paul Knerko smashing at first. Yeah,
I that just absolutely shot my wheels off as that
Uh you know what impromptu one final one, LG give

(01:27:39):
me one more lightning because almost forgot one wall.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
We had a local celebrity inducted into a Hall of
Fame over the weekend. MM hit me coach Jeff Traylor
of Kilmer Fame before he got to you. Yes, a
of course everyone knows was an awesome high school football coach.
Uh in a bet based Texas based Texas just playing

(01:28:07):
different over there, you know they and get back out
on the field trailer that's exactly Uh, that's uh. No
water breaks waters. So Trailer got inducted into the Texas
High School Football Hall of Fame over the weekend, along
with a certain former quarterback who had this to say

(01:28:29):
about coach Traylor.

Speaker 7 (01:28:30):
It was always had so much respect for coach Traylor,
and not only at Gilbert, but what he's he's done
at U T.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
S A.

Speaker 7 (01:28:37):
And Uh, one of my buddies I played with Texas X.
Actually he is coaching with him at U T.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
S A.

Speaker 7 (01:28:41):
So every every like he's talking about every before every game,
we're always in the QB room and always make sure
I see see how U. T. S A is doing.
And when Frank Harris was the quarterback there and then
and they were lighting up, it was fun to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:28:54):
Also get a little Frank here, all right, he's killed
my niners. God man, he bring up the man, you're
killing me.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
That's a great end, or isn't it. And on that note,
the congratulations coach Trailer, congrat congratulations up Frank Harris.

Speaker 6 (01:29:18):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
It's gotta be funny, it's gotta be weird to be
like like Pat Mahomes just reference like I didn't. I
applied like I was just a stud at UT s A.
And Pat mahomes like bellowing that guy, Well, do you
get us out of here? We will be back Wednesday.
Old face sounds like Stars Jets game four tomorrow night.

(01:29:41):
Back in the room on Wednesday, as always, appreciate it.
Y'all be safe peace.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
What do we say about drugs, Yeah,

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