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December 18, 2025 125 mins
Light the beam! The Sports Cave with Biggest Puma is back, and this Wednesday night edition is packed with energy, laughs, and plenty of solid sports analysis along the way. Join Puma, Cap, and the globe-trotting LG as they dive into a rollercoaster of sports drama and offbeat stories.

Key Highlights:
  • Spurs Watch Party Fallout: What started as hope turned into heartbreak as the Knicks dominated the fourth quarter. Hear the crew’s raw reactions and why Wimby played with a heavy heart.
  • Cowboys Collapse: With the Cowboys officially on playoff life support, it’s time to ask "What are we watching for over these last three weeks?"
  • Week 16 NFL Picks: Great games, bold predictions, and a heated race for bragging rights. Can Cap hold his lead?
  • Wild Side Stories: From feeding foxes on the Eastside to LG’s epic Japan trip, this episode proves sports talk can go anywhere.
Why Listen? This episode isn’t just about scores—it’s about stories, personalities, and the unpredictable magic of live sports talk. Whether you’re here for Spurs notes, NFL picks, or just to laugh at Puma’s wildlife adventures, you’ll leave entertained and informed.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lie Beam, Lie Lie Lie.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Ah. Yes, the beam is officially lit for consecutive days.
We've lit the beam more this week than the Sacramento
Kings have lit the beam all season. Yeah, it's uh,
well more importantly what's their win total at home? Because
that's where they light the beam. But regardless, welcome in

(00:36):
to a random Wednesday night edition of the Sports Cave
with biggest Puma, of course, joined across the table by Cap.
Joined in the other room here on the broader north
side of San Antonio, by the man in charge of
the whole operation, the man who is well known for

(01:01):
his global travels. Of course, I am speaking of the
greatness that is LG. As we are once again all
three back in the room. If you missed it, last night,
we did a Spurs watch along, watch party, a cry along. Yeah,
it ended up being a cry along. Although that clip

(01:23):
you put out was pretty spectacular. That was like it
was good. Yeah, the timing was impeccable.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Us you caught us arguably at the right before it
all crumbled. Yeah, like that was.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
We had hope. We were like Wimby's coming in, It's
gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
The whole fourth quarter was still ahead of us, which unfortunately,
now we know that was a fourth quarter that the
Knicks outscored the Spurs. What it did end up being
thirty thirty eight to nineteen something like that. They played
more thirty seven to eighteen.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
They played better bully ball. But shout out to shout
out to Wimy man. He had he had a heavy
heart that game.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Man. Yeah, we're gonna talk. We're gonna talk a lot
about that here in our Spurs Notes segment tonight, because
now that the Cowboys have gone tits up, we can officially.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
It's it's week one already.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
I know you, okay, it's Unfortunately I predicted they would
wait till the final game of the regular season, that is.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
The Cowboys way.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
I love that, and lose to the Giants and be
eliminated like that. I thought we were gonna get Jackson
Dart tapping Dak on the back of the head the
same way we had Bob Griffin doing it to Romo
once upon a time. But no, it is if you
are a Cowboy fan, it is officially time to catch
up on the doings across the NBA. And that's exactly

(02:52):
what we'll do tonight. I know of course we've got
We talked a little bit last night about some of
the stuff we've missed we've been gone. We'll hit on
some of that some of our update our picks. Get
Caps still has the lead, but we'll tell you exactly
how much the lead is not what it was since

(03:12):
the last time we did a regular program, So we'll
get into that. We'll get our week sixteen picks in.
I'm sitting here looking at one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
eight games. One of them's the Niners game. One of
them is the Cow's game. So we got to pick
those two. But that leaves three spots still available with

(03:34):
six other really really really good games on the schedule.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
I mean, we can go since we've been gone for
a long time, we can go all eight.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Well we did even though we were gone, we still
kept up our five picks each week.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
So, yeah, you don't like to deter from I.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Like consistency, despite the fact that this our schedule, our
show schedule, is arguably not consistent whatsoever. Yeah, but I like,
I like to thrive for consistent no.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Role playing with you. Every time I got a bit, You're.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Like, well, what the bit is? Just pick more games.
Arguably I'm saving you.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
No, like the glasses bit, and then I was like,
we can come into like a hazmat suit bit and then.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Well what was the hazmat suit? We were both kind
of sick. Oh I could. You should probably still be
wearing one. Now I'm not sick. I swear I'm not.
I swear no fever, no issues. But listen to me. Yes,
this is not the normal nasal smoker. Yeah, it's all allergies. Brother,
don't worry. You're you're fine.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
You're sacking. You even quit the heaters when you're sick,
or you just let it all build up right there
in the chest.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
No comment. Okay, that is the barometer. I know.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Mama Puma and Daddy Puma. You gotta talk to your son.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
That trust me. They they gave up long ago. I uh,
that's the barometer though. That's when I know I person
realize that I'm actually sick. It's when I don't when
I when I don't smoke, they're.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Like this is disgusting.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, or like, oh my god, I'm about to die
after one drag. That's when it's like, okay, maybe I
should go see a doctor or at the minimum, allow
the roommate to give me some pills, some pills that
actually will help my help my health situation, not recreational pills.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
The healing process.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
That's right exactly. But now we have a lot to
get to starting with you know, we talked about it
last night when we started the countdown towards the Emirates
NBA Cup Final. It was a bit. It was as
I mean it, it was a bit in the sense

(05:49):
that I didn't think it would work out the way
it did, but I wanted to. You know, I've I've
long crusaded for the NBA Cup on behalf of the
NBA Cup because I I think if you just watched
the games, you can't argue it's a better product. It's
better basketball.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
I don't know for sure, but I have a very
strong feeling that the Saudi's and the Emirties, uh said
we want physical basketball, don't call fouls because it was
completely different. Yeah, and I'm talking about in Vegas and
the better. Yeah, for the better because the quarterfinals, the

(06:29):
semifinals and the finals, it was all just we hey man,
we're going we're gonna hit hard. We're not gonna get
foul calls.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
I think I described it last night. It wasn't as
physical as eighties basketball, but it reminded me of like
late nineties, early two thousands.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
It wasn't lambier just throwing people to the ground.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
It wasn't it wasn't lambier toughness, but it was run
our test toughness.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
It was a little a little softer in the head,
just a.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Little bit, just a little bit. But now we when
we started that countdown on October twenty third, we were
fifty four days away from the NBA Cup Final.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
And it worked out quite nicely for us.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Almost worked out almost perfectly.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
I'll settle for quite nicely. The most important pressing issue
we have in front of us now is we need
a new countdown.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
We talked about it a little last night and I
went ahead and threw it out there. We are thirty
three days away from the college football National Championship.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Thirty three days? So is that that's mean? Man?

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Monday?

Speaker 1 (07:48):
That is going to be the third week of January?

Speaker 2 (07:51):
That's it? Yeah, Monday, January nineteenth. Do you know where
the national championship is better than mine? Earlier on the
radio show, I got.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Don't tell me Jerry World.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
No, no, Jerry World, it isn't. It is an NFL stadium,
not so five other coast. It can't be outdoors kind of.
It's a stadium with a giant hole in the roof,
so God can watch Tua get binched. It is at
hard Rock Stadium in Miami this year on Monday night,

(08:24):
January Night, we.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Watch twelve yards eighty times.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Oh that's spectacular. Oh my god, it's so good to
be back with you boys.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
So yeah, we're new.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Countdown thirty three days till the College Football Natty.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Also, so who do you got right now?

Speaker 2 (08:44):
I had the no, no, no, I had the bracket
up in front of you because I was looking at Honestly,
I think the second round of the uh the second
round of the playoffs arguably could give us better games.
Then the third round is going to Like I hope
Oregon beats James Madison. I think they will because I

(09:05):
want to see Tech play Oregon. They should A and M.
If they beat Miami will get A and M and
Ohio State in the Cotton Bowl technically Jerry World instead
of the actual Cotton Bowl. But if you asked me
right now what team wins it all? I still lean
Ohio State, even though they lost to Indiana. I still

(09:30):
lean Ohio State. But the problem is Ohio State is
going to have arguably the toughest second round matchup. The
winner of that Miami Texas A and M game.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
So if Ohio State gets past them, then I think
they are probably the betting favorites. I wonder you know,
this is always the opportunity where what does what does
Vegas say?

Speaker 1 (10:00):
I mean, you got Georgia on the bar, you got
Ohio State on the by Indiana and Texas Tech. So
you're not even given in Texas Tech a chance over
Oregon or Alabama.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Oh I think Tech beats Oregon.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
You think Tech beats Now do you think Tech beats Indiana? Indiana?

Speaker 2 (10:22):
If Indiana gets past Alabama or Oklahoma, I think that
potentially be a game. That could be an awesome game.
With Tech defense and Indiana's offense.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
We could we could get a Tech Texas A and
M game.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
My buddy is holding out for it. He prospected some tickets.
He's a big Red Raider fan.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Oh yeah, there's a lot of y'all in this city. Man.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
So I did the radio show today with Shane and
this new guy, Tim, both of them Red Raider grads.
That's all I've been around today. The two Red Raiders
out there. We're going to go home to.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
The roommate Red Raider. You're wearing red.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Well, that's for my I know, that's why I need
to be around my uh my Bobcats like LG.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Well, you know, I'm a cowboy, the real cowboy at heart.
And we did get your your prospect. Jim Morris, Jim No, no, no, okay,
that's not the doors.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Jim Morrison back from the grave.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, no, old body from North Texas.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Oh, Eric Morris, Eric Moore, yeah, yeah, yeah, So and
North Texas quarterback entered the transfer portal.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
So you might be getting mess to maker too. He's
coming with Yeah. In Oklahoma's Oklahoma State's quarterback went to
the portal.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Welcome to djucos Haney hass Hanny, the kid that got hurt,
the Alito kid, the one that played Oh okay, yeah
he was terrible. But no. It's also since we're back
in the room together, we got to have a national day.
It is National right Brothers Day. Oh the plane that's

(12:05):
all right, Kitty Hawk. On this day in nineteen o three, Uh,
those two wild ass Like just imagine jumping off the
side of a hill a cliff in nineteen o three
and a plane that you built with your brother and thinking, oh,
this will go fine, and as you could probably lift

(12:26):
it because I don't. Yeah, no, it was I think
it was heavier than like a couple hundred pounds. No,
it was basically like a model rocket hanger, a model
you know, a model plane that they put together. The
only reason it's funny that it's it's uh, maybe this
is why the YouTube algorithm was serving it to me
last night. I was up till like three almost four

(12:47):
am this morning watching a skunk Works documentary, the division
within Lockeed that builds all of our badass fighter jets,
like they've skunk Works is skunk Works. Yeah, they built
the SR seventy one Blackbird.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Oh that's the name of the company that built it.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
It's the name of the division within Lockheed Martin. Oh Okay,
so it's it's the division that they work. Skunk Works
really closely with NASA. So when NASA creates something for
space travels, skunk Works uses a lot of their patents
and trademarks to turn it into a military a military

(13:30):
jet something that can.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
I'm just glad they declassified Amelia Airhart. Dude, I was, man,
that's thirty years of wondering, is it you know? I'm
just yeah, I was.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Where are you?

Speaker 1 (13:41):
It was crushing me every day. Do you feel better
I declassify Amelia Earharts files? What happened to her?

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Do you feel better about the future of our country
now that you know what happened to Amelia Earhart?

Speaker 1 (13:55):
I had I did not expect she went down in
the ocean. That just blew my mind.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Oh yeah, wow. Of all the places she could have been,
the bottom of the ocean would have been my last
year Desert Island bro. Some say she's still alive, she's
still uh, but no, we've got a lot to get
to tonight. With all of us back in the room.
Of course, we're gonna do some weekend recap that's really uh,

(14:20):
mainly a recap of LG's trip to Japan. We've got
some Macha kitkats we're gonna try here, we got spurs notes.
We're gonna talk about the game last night. We're gonna
go light on col notes the rest of the year.
There's really no purpose. They're gonna be they're gonna don't
act like you care. Yeah, no, there's there's really I mean,

(14:45):
so the Eagles play the Commanders at four o'clock on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Oh okay for like four o'clock our time.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yes, or four o'clock Eastern, three o'clock. I think it
might be four o'clock cards.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
That's not even like a prime time game.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
So it's the NFL doing their Saturday games. It's a
there's a doubleheader the other Saturday night game.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Oh yeah, we're moving into Saturdays exactly, so be sure
to make be sure to do your fantasy football lineups
by Friday as a gentleman.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, the late night is a game. We're probably gonna
pick Packers and Bears Saturday night.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
But feel free to jump into the chat as well, man,
because we get gold in the chat. Like greg Us
saying snitching on Puma saying, you use the word momentum today.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
I did. I did it just for you. I was
hoping someone would catch it. It was because all of
the audio failed, the system crashed, nothing was working, and
I was like, wow, we really got some strong momentum
going going into this next segment. We'll see if we
are even still on air five minutes from now. But no,

(15:51):
we made I mentioned the Eagles game on Saturday, because
if they win that game, the Cowboys are eliminated.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
So we'll oh before the.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Cowboys kick off on Sunday, whether they Jane's already out
rolled him out, So it's Mario to time.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
You're telling me he dislocated his elbow, they roll him
back out four games later and he got injured again.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
That's exactly what I'm telling you. Yeah, yeah, Who would
have saw that? Who kind of like Amelia Earhart in
the ocean?

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Who no one saw that coming? Who could have.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Predicted that on a planet that is predominantly water? Who
could have predicted that? But no, I do. Still, we'll
get into a little bit of col notes because we
do have to make the picks. Still, we'll pick the
Cowboys a game every week still and then main Seggy,
we got to get to our picks. We'll do a
little bit of recap from week fifteen around the NFL,

(16:46):
and then Lightning Round. When I say the name Joe Ealy,
does that mean anything to either one of y'all?

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Negative? Perfect?

Speaker 2 (16:55):
I can't wait for Lightning Round? Then and then the
end clip tonight is one of my favorite pieces of
American media. It's it's the I have long suggested, have
long held the belief that we are the silliest country
on earth in a good and bad way. Like It's
nothing is Nothing is ever as serious as your neighbor

(17:19):
wants to make it, or your uncle at the table
on Christmas spouting.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
His it's it's hypocritically funny, exactly exactly, So the Epstein
files are being held because Trump wants to protect the
Democrats that are involved in it.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Well, there are a hoax to begin with caps everything Again,
we're the silliest country.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
So I got a good end clip for that.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
But before we get any further, we haven't heard from
the third member of the program outside of perfectly time
dropped drops as usual.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
That is, of course LG, the star of the show,
with all the energy in the world. Make your way in.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
That's what I think of when I think of LG.
Just a ball of energy, zipping around, bubbly, smiling all
the time, verbatious.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
LG.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Tell the good people how they can help support the
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Speaker 3 (18:37):
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Speaker 2 (18:42):
Oh I missed, Thank you Royce, Thank you, sir.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
I got involved in that second half man, I was
locked in.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, it was hard to pay attention to uh any
of the chat or any other doings because that Uh.
I was worried about the third quarter, but should have
probably been worried about the fourth.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
But we'll get into that.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Inspiration notes. As LG said, subscriptions absolutely free. We really
appreciate those of y'all, the five hundred and some odd
that have subscribed to this thing. It really really helps
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can hit the super chats. We'll get onto those. If
they're on topic, we'll hit them when you send them.

(19:23):
If not, we'll do it right before the lightning round. Boys,
I don't think any of us had as exciting of
a hiatus as LG. Did. Yes, all I've got I've
got an east Side wildlife report. I'm feeding a fox.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Now, are you sure it's not a dog?

Speaker 2 (19:45):
No, it's a fox. I've been fostering the relationship for
a while, so I throw some cat food out back
if I'm out late, up, late, out smoking a heater.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
What does the fox say?

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Well, it says at this point, At this point, it says,
I don't have rabies. At least I don't think I
do because I've been hesitant. No, no, he's still not
letting me get close enough. But the that's the goal.
The goal is to domesticate the thing. They'd be better

(20:21):
off in my house than it would roaming the east Side.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Hey, man, i've seen people with foxes, skunks.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Oh, my grandpa used to live. Trap of fox possible
every so often, few times a year, and some of
them are a bit less temperamental than others.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
But put them in a cage.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Man, Now, I've been putting what happened. Uh. I was
out there the other night and I could hear. Yeah,
I know what apossum sounds like. I know what obviously
what the cats sound like. That's usually the two or
a raccoon. Those are the three animals I'll see around
the food bowl in the backyard. But the other night

(20:59):
I was out there burning and a heater, and I
started hearing what you just did. That had kind of
like a goat, but a little higher pitched h. And
so I knew immediately that was neither of none of
the three forms of wildlife I've seen in my backyard.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, and so I.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Started looking around. I scared him off at first, and
then a couple nights later he came back by. I
noticed because I walked right when I walked outside, he
was eating the cat food and then took off running.
And then we had a breakthrough a couple of days
ago over the weekend, we were able to both I
was able to sit outside in my smoking chair, and

(21:40):
he was able to walk up while seeing that I
was there and eat the cat food without being cats.
We're getting closer, We're getting closer to having one of
these days. One of these days, I'll have pictures of
me swaddling the yeah yeah, that, or will have pictures

(22:01):
of my face all scratched up. I'm trying to one
one or the other is absolutely absolutely destined to happen.
You have anything for we hear about LG's trip to Japan.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Fun with giving blood today, you know, oh god, no, absolutely,
I've always like, even I'm a big guy, you know,
when I say I have deep veins, it's just not
because hit me with the hit me with the drop overweight.
But like I've always had some when I was.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Like, when you ask for it, you don't get it.
Yeah that's what you get.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Oh all right, But like when I had my I
had like hip surgery when I was twenty two years old,
and university, no insurance. Of course, you know, I'm just
out there living life, you know, free and recklessly, and yeah,
you end up getting the worst nursing services ever. And

(22:57):
they would get the little trainer nurses. You get the
little baby nurses that misses the vein and just you
wake up because I'm all on all the morphine. I'm
clicking that little bad boy and my arm looks like
Popeye because it's just full of fluid. And I'm like,
they're like, here's vein. Your veins are so deep, I
can't find them. So this poor girl, I guess she

(23:17):
was new at the blood donation center and she was
like she was digging in me. I look like I
got track marks like a mofo.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
And what's the old D twelve line, can't get a
job because my arm showed track.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, And she's like, she's just she is getting flustered.
She's almost in tears, and she's looking at me. She's like,
all right, I'm like I'm good.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
I'm good.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
At least she cared.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah. I was like, I was like, look at look
at all the tattoos, like this is nothing, this is nothing, buddy.
And then and then like she's like, I was like,
you can butterfly me, which means it goes on your hand,
and that's where like I got this big old bruise
looking like a Trump hand.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
I'm getting lightheaded just hearing about that. I would have
passed out five minutes. This is not a joke. I
would have passed flaked all the way out five minutes
into this whole endeavor.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Oh, I just watched it. I'm just like, oh, interesting.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
God, I call me what you want, choose the word,
I'll agree with it. But that, uh, I've never been good,
never been good with needles, which I guess, in the
long run, is actually not such a bad thing.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Shout out as zeb for his ten dollars donation. Oh god,
he's got raccoons in his classrooms too. God bless the God,
bless the public education. Yeah, that's domestic.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
I was about to say, you might have a classroom
pet if you can play your cards right.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
ZEB, We're gonna have to talk about the collusion you
try to do to get me out of the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Collusion some illusion, No collusion you want to see you
want to see the other.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
No collusion, no other side of the cap. You'll see it. Zeb.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
I'm relying on you every this war, this, this is
this is our champion. In ship weeks, we are taking
on a cap. If you missed it last night, we.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Even though the theater kids got the got the team that
scares me the most.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, but the team that scares me the most is you,
because I don't want to hear about how you beat me.
If we lose this week, ZEB.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Will be very gracious and oh I'm sure as a winner,
I'm a gracious winner.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly how I'm sure that's exactly
how it will go down with Zeb. Yes, thank you
for the super chat. Merry Christmas to you as well.
L G. Where do we start. I guess let's start
with how many how much footage of Japanese toilets did

(25:45):
you procure?

Speaker 3 (25:46):
I didn't film any We'll have pictures, pictures, yes, pictures.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Film.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
I was not going to be the creepy guy in
the bathroom filming s.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
With with the vintage equipment, just being like, no, no, no,
I'm doing something. I need this for an American podcast.
Showed like you don't understand. Just act like I'm not here.
You won't even notice me. Well, let's see it. What
have you got for us? I saw a bunch of the.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Pictures, act like I'm not here.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
I saw a bunch of the pictures you posted, and
it looked like you got some bad ass.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
First of all, the first night I got there, well,
my flight was canceled in Chicago twenty four hours to
so I got there day late.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
But you didn't stay at the airport. You went out right.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
No, I mean it was like ten o'clock by the
time I got a new flight, don't I had to
wait in a five hour line after my flight was
to get a new flight. So, and then they booked
me a hotel at the Hilton across the street, gave
me one hundred dollars gift card, but all the restaurants
were closed except for the expensive steakhouse, so my meal
was seventy bucks. Anyways, so for dinner didn't.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Really make well. At least you got a good name.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Was it was a good dinner sometime to give it
to him.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
That's not a bad such a bad thing because then
you're forced like I would never eat.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Oh no, no, I would have gone like uber eats
over exactly.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
What happened to that? Oh did we get rid of
that thing where like your flight's delayed first?

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Oh, yeah, they got rid of Yeah, that went away.
That went away on day one of this year.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Is something that would have benefited the consumer over the
over the corporation.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yeah, I would have got like two to three hundred bucks.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
At least we have a former Real World character running
the airport system right now, what do you expect? But yes,
they took that.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
So I got in at like five pm and shout
out to uh a listener and a viewer of the show, Josh,
who met up with me in downtown Shinjuku.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
What's up job worldwide?

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Baby?

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yep, worldwide. He was a little in nebriated when I
met up with him, but he introduced he looks sober. Yeah,
so do I.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yes, everybody in that exactly.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
But that's us in downtown. I guess it's not downtown
you it's a smile from LG and So. The first
bathroom I came across was here in Hinjuku. It was
a public restroom, and it's the old familiar Oh, thewatty party.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
The old squatty partty.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
That is my nightmare. Right there, I'm spraying the wall.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Uh, that's what you got. Look, and it's kept it
as you can see, it's kept it in immaculate, clean conditions.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
This is not the Japan I have always been told about.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
So do you face the wall where the thing is
and hold on to the toilet dispenser?

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Or you could I think most people turn around.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
I think it's a turnaround like normal.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
You face the door, you could go either way.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
This is not the clean efficient Japan that I have
always been So this is this looks more like what
I've experienced in China.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yes, yeah, this isn't an older part of Japan. I
guess it's an older bathroom, I should say. The next
one I came across was a little bit better, a
little bit. Uh no, no bidet action on this one now.
But we do have the prison style wash your hands

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where it uses the water with the faucet on top
right above.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah, I noticed that.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
You know, that's very convenient.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
It's efficient.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
You know, the prison system they get some things right.
That's efficient that you can't wait, where's the water found
right next to it?

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Where the water coming from the drinking fountain, the drinking
on top of the toilets, And that's a three in
one hyper efficients.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
All right, let me see, I gotta find more toilet
pics where we're going through the motions.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Here there's a step.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
There's my first midet okay, and this was at another bar.
So these are all bars, every every one of these the.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Bars man, Yeah, those shout out to the Japanese bars
keeping cleaned.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
So this was a karaoke bar in Osaka's what song
did you sing? Carli Ray Jebson? Yeah, yeah, I tried
to do this is how we do it, but it's
really difficult. The verses are really hard.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yeah, is that plant real?

Speaker 3 (30:16):
I believe? So I believe everything was real in this place. Yeah,
And they also had the prison system, but they had
a nice like you know, aerosol type of thing or fragrance.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
You know, it gets a little little looks like a
step up.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
And then uh, here's the one in my hotel room
at the holiday in Express.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
This is what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
And this was full on integrated miday with heated seats.
Didn't have a light though, it was so disappointed about that,
but had the nozzle that comes out from the back
and then goes back in and sanitizes itself. And then
here's the button system on there. That was in no English,

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but you can tell by the animations kind of what
you're supposed to do, by the little picture.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Pictography I'm saying I'm seeing, butty, okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
So you got the sprints, you got the full on
water blast. The red dot really scares me, You don't.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
The red dot is the is the emergency stop button,
stops all that, get me out of jail. Clean that
laser sensor, that's sentry mode.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
That red button is your safe word. That's your safe word.
Whereas I can't, I can't take anymore.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
You gotta so. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
So the one on the right with the person sitting
on that, that's a that's a woman. So that's for
you know, frontal.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Or vaginal cleaning cleaning.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yes, and then this one is for you know, all
around poops. And this is when you have.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
A three waves like that, Like, is that that's all around?

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Those are the flushes you're talking about on the top.
Those are three different flushes. Yeah, three different powers on
you Oh you mean the top, the very on the
very top. What's the one next to the woman button there?

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Is that you know what that is? I think that's
the deodoriser.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Okay, yeah, it's a yeah, I got everything.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
But yeah, the one, the other butt one is obviously
when you have a rather messy one and it gets
onto the sides of the cheeks and you need a
little wider splash, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Dude? The ones, the ones that go up two levels,
I got, I gotta, I got.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Okay, so we have one of them's the seat temperature
and the other ones the water pressure. And I'm not
too sure what some of those other up and downs are.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Man, I would have been playing with that for it.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
I tried to translate it, but it didn't exactly work
very well. I figured out the essentials. That's all that matters.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah, yeah, you just gotta figure out he wasn't going
for the nitty gret me out here every button. I'd
have been like, that's exactly.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
And shout out to spaceship in Osaka a really cool
retro bar.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Oh that's awesome that you had to buy a drink.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
That was their requirement. Then you can play any game
you want on any of the old consoles. They had
pretty much every console from the famicns they had them,
famicicn Super Famicon, Nintendo, Super Nintendo, Jena they had. They
had the American games too.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
So yeah, Famicon and Super Cam Famicon are not compatible
with each other. I always thought they were. The controllers are,
but not the actual games.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
So they that's all games, not the emulators, all of them.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
No, they had all the consoles in there.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
I see four, I see Super Mario Brothers three.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
That was what I was playing. That's what Yeah, that
was my game system that night.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
That's a classic.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Were you playing it on Super Nintendo or No?

Speaker 3 (33:54):
I was playing on regular Nintendo.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
An original version, not Mario All Stars.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
No.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
No.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
What we want to know is did you blow into
a cart No?

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Because he said I didn't have to. I asked about that,
and they're like, now we keep all our stuff pretty clean.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
It anyway, I was like this nostalgia.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah, I just need the I need the rush.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
But this was their restroom, all right, it hasn't been day,
but not that.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Great little cuphead towel.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Yeah, unfortunately, that was the focus of it. That was
the community hand drying town. Yeah that's okay in someone's
house maybe, but like in a public.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
For that.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yeah, So the night continued on.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
My hands on my pants. That would have been like that.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
I ended up the old shake Air.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
I ended up at this hip hop bar called Ipuku.
Those all records, yep, and that's the bar tenders area.
No one can access those records. And behind the bar
he's got a bad set up there. And yeah, then
I ended up here.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Hold on, so is the bartender?

Speaker 3 (35:04):
The bartender is the DJ. Yes, and it's all vinyl.
That bar maybe fifteen total, all these bars. You can't
fit more than that.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
That's nice.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
And I ended up here somehow at like three am.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Is that a stuffed raccoon?

Speaker 1 (35:21):
That sure is that we know what to do with
those raccoons in the public school system.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
That is amazing.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
This was This was called KINGU and I had no
idea what to expect. I walked in and this was
the bar.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Whoa fun fun with taxidermy? Oh my god, this is.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Like, there's no bartender back there is this.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
True to textive? Somewhere did we find did we find
carcosa that looks like a low Bars Penguin Disney ride.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
There's a taxi dury Penguin cobras.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
You know.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Uh everyone in there was wearing those masquerade masks.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
They had this kind of bar, this nightmare fuel.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
I don't know. But here's their bathroom.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Nope, nope, nope, not going in there.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
It's a little tight.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Not going in there.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
There's a lot going on.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, I feel like something. What's the what is that
face behind the toilet looks like a clown, almost like
a Mike Myers but elephant childhood.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
It was an interesting place.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
It's not a bobcat up above.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, I think it's an owl.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Okay, give me some psilocybin sake and let me go.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Yeah, it was a very interesting place.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
That looks like sensory overload.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
It was. It was sensory overload for sure, and maybe
you could fit eight people in this place.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Oh my god, just enough to where they you can't
overwhelm them when they're killing you.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
That was my seat at the bar. And there's a
bartender back there somewhere in a mask, but he spoke
perfect English. But there it was a bit there are
all the people who worked there are all ma cobbed
and dressed, all like you know, Dracula.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Ish, Like what would you like to drink?

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (37:08):
They actually talked about.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
You break the fourth music plane.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
It's like Phantom of the Opera or some shit. Sure,
sure it's it's pretty intense. But anyway, that was probably
the most interesting bathroom.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
No.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Lie, Just yesterday I had my favorite hockey love and
bartender seeing Phantom of the Opera.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
The Phantom of It.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
She did it good. I was like, never heard it?

Speaker 2 (37:36):
You never seen Phantom of the Opera.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
You're probably Actually that's probably, that's probably fair.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Even though I love musicals, I don't know Fantom Opera.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Is Well, if you love musicals, you should probably check
it out at some point.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
You know, what I'm not going to check out is
that freak fest of a bar that I just saw.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Yeah, you know, how about would you go to this place.
This was called far Plane.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
That's where I'm at.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yeah, up, ladies, I think I'm a little more interested
in the aesthetics of this bar.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Look at that smile.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Do you see the smile aren't working? There's pretty interesting,
do Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
A lot of the very colorful artwork, very very.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
I feel like I can count the number of times
I've seen LG smile and a picture on one.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Hand that is the smile, and I probably don't need
right there.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
That was a cool place. It was in the basement
of a mall. They had an akarina.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Oh oh, is that like a musical instrument?

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah, it's a real thing.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Did you try to time warp?

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah? I was a little scared might time.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
An actual akerinairds, but Zelda develops.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
But those girls a lot of problem solving. I would
not call them dirts. They looked very sis and I
bet there I played video games.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
I bet both of them you would play video games.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
They had your favorite drink there as well.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
So, dude, that looks like the liquor that you get
in Costa Rica. Yeah, you don't know what's in it,
but it's like just they're just putting it in there,
and it's just so sugary.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
I think it's like all liquor. It looks like it's
all flavors.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
The stuff that ended up killing like that doesn't taste testing.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
No, I didn't try no, hell no, I drank whiskey.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
I drink that Japanese whiskey.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yeah, and the whole night. Their sunaory is like our
gym beam here.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
They just like it's just everywhere.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
So how well Japanese whiskey versus well, Japanese whiskey versus
it's always suntory. Yeah, it's really good, exact like I
know what that means.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
But it's always good whiskey. It's never crap.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
What was the did you I'm assuming, since these were
all pictures of toilets at bars, I'm assuming you had
to have stumbled out and eaten some street food quite
a bit.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
I did eat some street food.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
What was the What was the best thing?

Speaker 3 (40:22):
Probably yacky?

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yeah, pancake?

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Oh that one?

Speaker 3 (40:29):
That finger size or is that like it's about the Yeah,
it's about what he's showing, like a forty five record,
the small record?

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (40:39):
What all was in that? One?

Speaker 3 (40:40):
Squid? Octopus and shrimp?

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Oh my god, Is that an egg in there?

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Yeah, it's an omelet, basically, it's an omelet. And then
they got bonito flakes on top and a fried egg
on top. God, that looks so good, all sorts of deliciousness.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yeah, that looks amazing. I agree with Greg and the
chat that is dope.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
That looks and that photo was taken with the nineteen
seventy six pen tax film camera that I had developed
in Tokyo.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
That's so bad as how hard was it to find
a place to develop over?

Speaker 3 (41:11):
The film never died in Japan, so it's there's one
hour photoshops everywhere.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
That's kind of what I figured, That's what I had heard. Man, Yeah,
pretty much remember one hour photoshops. He was just drive
through and just.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Remember the skeezy people that would work on and you'd
just be like that guy, how many buttholes has that
guy seen in his life? You're like, how many?

Speaker 1 (41:31):
You kind of want a skeezer, so you don't like
so they know you're gonna get your material.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
That's fair.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
They're like, I've seen worse. Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Just remembering all the white trash I grew up around
working at the One Hour Photo at kmart.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yeah, so LG hit me to some game. Not only
are the toilets world class? Did you load up the picture? Oh?

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Did I not show the super shower the showers awes thing.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Look at that thing. Man, You've got the hand held,
you got the up top.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
That, you got the feet, the torso, and then the
head and rain like basically like hand held in rain.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
There's eighteen knobs on that thing.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
More than that.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
My apartment in San Marcus, whenever I was at Texas State,
the water spout, the what you might call it, Yeah,
you know, the shower head nozzle would come out about
this high on me about chest tied just below my chin,
right above my uptops and.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
It was.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Miserable for three years. Looking at this shower gives me
shower PTSD.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Oh dude, this thing's crazy. I tried it out. It's
unnecessary and their water pressure is beyond believe, unbelievable. It's
fantastic blast. It just felt that was getting blasted by
like a prison nose, but like you know, five times over.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Like.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
When they're spraying Farva down and super Troopers, like.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
It's it's like a it's crazy. We have regulations against that.
The life against the pressure, but like I really want
the shower pressure is amazing everywhere I went. This was.
This was at a holiday in Express.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Yeah, I was about to say, that's not even telling
me that toilet and that shower is at a holiday
in Express.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Yeah, it looks like it's Express. It looks like it's
from Tony Parker's house that he can't sell America.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
If you want to if you want to be first,
if you want.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
To be the best, that ain't happening against this is.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
How you start. Start in the bathroom. Give me some
cushy toilets that were warm, that will blow incense up
my butt, you know, freshening it out. Maybe maybe some
baby powder. I don't think you want that, you know, like,
give me some pressure, Give me some water. Pressure man.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
And shout out to the Japanese airlines too, because the
service you get on those things is unbelievable compared to
what we get here, which is basically nothing. Here's some peanuts.
This was a meal on my way to Japan.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Oh my god, no one's fighting on that airline. No
one's fighting on the airline. Is that It's like rice.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
With chicken meatballs and then tashimi and some kind of
salad with seaweed and fake crab meat. And then over
there is like cold soba noodles with finely chopped up
scrambled eggs, and then a salad and then they brought
out Hagenda's ice cream for dessert. Boom and where what

(44:44):
was here and liquor were free to if you wanted
to come on, not even first class. No, this is
economy as economy as it gets.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
And this was flying from where to where?

Speaker 3 (44:53):
It was flying from Chicago to Japan to Tokyo.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
How is it? How is a la legro? Is great?

Speaker 3 (44:59):
It's better than any any American one. But yeah, but
it's better. It's more legran than what you'd get on
United or Delta domestic at least.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
You know what, man, you're almost convincing me to go
to Japan and deal with being the biggest, like they're
gonna think I'm a sumo wrestler about to say people.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
There, Man, there's a lot of Americans there too that
are big.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Would there's a lot of Americans there there are fat.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
I would love big Japanese. Everybody loves China.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
There's a lot of Chinese people, man, after my back surgery,
I'm going to start practicing.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Enough for the home photos show.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
I would love to see you walking randomly walking the
streets of Japan while LG's filming it on the old
eight millimeter camera.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Oh yeah, it's like they think I'm famous.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Yeah, could be some great footage. Well, something else LG
brought back for us. Yes, this is a Macha kit
kat straight from Japan. Yep, straight from the airport in
perfect still count still. It says Uji Macha, which is

(46:10):
a very specific individual packages here.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Yeah, it's from a very small town called which is
the birthplace of Macha, right outside of Kyoto.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Have you tried one of these? It's not a surprise
to you. Is my favorite? My favorite? Do you like?
I didn't know what it was.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
It's green tea.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
It's a good start. There's a big green tea.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
But they may call sorts of crap out of it.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Here we go, we'll domr No, dude, that that's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Oh my god, I just want to throw up and
just go into a psychoage bit.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Okay, that's delicious, really good, it's excellent.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Yeah, that is amazing.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
I didn't know KitKat was your favorite man they had
all so you would be in heaven. You can go
to the kit Kat factory or chocolate place. It's not
a factory, but it's.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Like tastes like white chalkol.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
It's like the M and m's.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yeah kind of yeah, I could, yeah, kind of, I
could see that, or like like the bark they use.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
I think it might be like white chocolate.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
With macha in it. Yeah, I bet you're I could if.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
You could read the I bet it's definitely got cocoa
in it because I think you can read that on there.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Yeah. It uh, it's pretty good. Whenever I remember, do
you y'all ever go to Jefferson Bodega when it was
open over there on the West Side, a little like
trendy snack shop. They had a bunch of global candy
and chips and beer drink stuff like that. I always

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know like anytime we would go in there, I could
get a different flavor of KitKat from Japan that I
hadn't tried before. I mean, it's like.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
I'm behind the times, man, I don't know anything.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
About Endless Endless flavor.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Seemingly, I thought it was like with Sabby flavor.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
For a second, you could talk me into that being
good too.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
We might have to get like a fun like a
fun flavored fat uh pack with all the flavors and
do a feast off.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Doesn't Macha have more caffeine?

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Yeah, that's it can get.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
It's got some caffeine.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
I don't drink caffeine.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
I need a little bit of it after staying up
watching that Skunkworks documentary and doing the radio show earlier.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yeah, I don't know how to read Japanese.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Okay, yeah I don't. I don't think we need a
replay of you attempting to read Japanese.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Yeah, like pretty much pretty much illiterate when Yeah, thank
god for English menus and Google Translate.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
How how often did you have a tag along buddy
or frint or was it most of the trip solo
u Osaka?

Speaker 3 (49:01):
I was with people in Osaka?

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Yeah, yeah, for very nice.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
Yeah, I'd say about six days of the trip, very
very nice.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
The second biggest, biggest city, I.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Think, So it's about two million something in there, Okay, yeah,
it's not like Tokyo big but.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
So yeah, so you went to Tokyo.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Of course, right, Yeah, I flew in and out of Tokyo.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
So did you go like to like the their Times
Square with that big old like hologram.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
I mean, I went, yeah, I went to They have
those in a few areas, but it's I wouldn't call
it the Times Square. I didn't go there this time
because I've been there many times. You're thinking of Shibuya crossing, sure,
which is the most busiest exactly.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
I was about to say Shaboozi crossing.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
It's the Piccadilly Circus of Japan.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
I didn't go to Shibuya at all.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
So well, man, we glad to have you back because
you keep us in order and running things and actually
doing the shows, even though you try to talk us
out of yesterday.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Yeah, I didn't quite realize. I didn't quite realize that
was what was going on yesterday.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
He was he was working on he had to go
do a job, and he was doing on four hours
of sleep.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Man, he came back and right right to work.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
That's the work ethic we have here at the sports
k here at LG.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
And remember remember sports cave there. The job is not
done yet. He is working the Spurs game tomorrow. If
you see Og in the wilderness, you get close to
him and take a picture. But don't say anything to him.
Don't spook him.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Now, don't do that, don't spook him.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Just post it for the public.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Yes, yes, hit us and we'll post it on the show.
I love the pics. Bring him in. Keep doing work.
Thank you LG for your wrap up of the trip.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Man.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
That things awesome. I can't wait for the suit he did.
He did take a super eight of some Japanese local skateboarders,
and I can't wait till that it gets developed and
I'm gonna have it.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Like you have a spot, you know, how to you
found a place to get that film developed? Yet? Uh?

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Yeah, there's there's like five places in the United States.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Yeah, I knew. I figured it'd be tough to come across,
but yeah, uh, I need to see that once we have.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
We're not as big as Japanese and like land masks,
so there's only five spots.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
What it's sarcasm, Yeah, yeah, but I'm trying to figure
out what it's rooted in.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Uh saying we went digital and sold out? You want?

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Yeah, well that now I'm with you. You want to
do some spurs notes from the game last night, Let's
do it. Let's market eight fifty six ah, where to start.
How about you can't get out rebounded twenty three to
six in the fourth quarter and expect to win. You
can't give up as many offensive rebounds as they did.

(51:51):
Nick's had twenty three offensive rebounds totals, ten of those
to Mitchell Robinson alone. Spurs got out rebounded fifty nine
to forty two. Yeah, on the entire game.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Would you have liked to see Cornett and Wimby in
there the French Vanilla connection at the same time. I mean,
if we're getting out rebounded.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Like that, The problem was the Knicks, Like, if you
throw both of those guys out there just shooting threes,
well and Cornett isn't gonna you're gonna have, You're gonna
have a defensive mismatch. You might be better off getting
a you might be have a better chance of getting
the rebound, but when they're playing four guards, that means
you're gonna have You're throwing Wimby on.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Kat was absolutely unstoppable. We thought he wasn't coming back
with the knee the knee to knee clash, and when
he came back, he absolutely dominated the boards. He dominated
on offense, he stretched the floor, he hit some big
time threes. I don't know, man, I haven't seen the
Wimby and Cornet on the same on the floor at

(52:59):
the same time.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
I haven't seen that yet now. And with the I
can remember with Wemby on minutes restrictions, they certainly weren't
going to do that play around too much with with
different lines with.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Five minutes left and you know the problem. You know
the problem, we're getting out rebounded, they're getting offensive rebound
they're getting offensive rebound scores. Wouldn't you just do it
with five minutes left? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (53:27):
I still think the because at that point you're taking
who are you taking off the court? Barns because he was.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Cold, Barns. He was doing work, he was getting some
he was like he was he was getting dirty, you know,
but he just he was like like they were just
out physically, knows. They out Like I call it bully ball.
They were just they looked like they were from New

(53:55):
York and we were weren't fair.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Yeah, And I mean the way the way they were
calling the game, as they were calling all of the
although I will say last night was a little different
than Saturday Night. Saturday Night felt like they allowed way
more physicality they still allowed a lot of it last night,
but there were some oddly time tiki tac calls. Yeah,

(54:21):
that got called on both teams. I'm not saying it
was one sided or anything like that, but it did
feel like it was a little bit of a tighter
whistle last night. Then we saw Saturday against Oklahoma City.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
I swear I think they're calling the whistle because again,
the first quarter flew by only one time out through
the whole first quarter, and you know, everybody needs those
ad revenue spaces sure, and so they're like, Okay, we
need to somehow get some commercial breaks in here. If
we call some fouls and stuff and get someone in
foul trouble, they're gonna call a time out and talk

(54:56):
about rotation and different options of like who they're going
to put in and whatnot. So I don't know. I
think they wear a buzzer like the astros.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
And the leagues, letting them know we need to stretch
this out now. I think, you know, the Knicks closing
that I guess, starting a thirteen to one run at
the end of the third quarter that stretched into the fourth.
That was where you got it was the Knicks role players,
you know, you mentioned Kat, but it was the Knicks

(55:30):
role players that really dug them out of that third
quarter hole and put them ahead going in the start
of the fourth Jordan Clarkson. Clark had a couple of
big threes. Klek the little white little point guard from Marquette.
He had twenty solid minutes, put fourteen points on the board.
Had that one floater.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
That kid has a trust fund. The floater.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Yeah, it sure looks like he looks like a Gossip
Girl cast member. Speaking of New York, he had the
one floater that made it somehow made it over the
outstretched arm of Wimby and then also mentioned Mitchell Robinson.
Fifteen rebounds total, ten of those ten of those being
offensive rebounds.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
We started kind of like them.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Those were the only three guys they used off their bench.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
That was it. It wasn't as bad as oh for twelve,
but I think we went oh for seven over eight
starting with three threes. Yeah, like if we nailed some
of those and start just putting our foot on their throat,
you know, it's what if, like you know, law of averages,
all that stuff happening. But it came down to the

(56:37):
last quarter. The last few minutes we were getting like
they had an answer and killed all our momentum whenever.
The clip that I picked that was when Stephan Castle
hits the three, Harper hitting threes, Stefan Castle hitting threes there.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Yeah, Harper was what five of seven?

Speaker 1 (56:57):
Yeah, I think it was. That's amazing. That's going to
be a game changer if we can start stretching the
floor because now they're gonna have to close out on
him and he has an easier path to the basket.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
It's not a problem that Harper was the leading scorer
last night. That's not what I'm saying. The problem is
the Spurs leading scorer had twenty one points and it
was Dylan Harper, the you know looking mentioned Harrison Bard.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Those points are right.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Barnes only had eleven. Fox only had sixteen to go
with five turnovers, a couple turnovers at really bad time
there in the fourth quarters. The cell was quiet after
scoring twenty three against the Thunder, he only gets only
contributes twelve on four of fourteen shooting just bad shooting.

(57:45):
You know, Fox was five of thirteen, bad, Bassel was
five of fifteen. I mean those three guys shooting that poorly. Yeah,
it was gonna be hard to win the game.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
It was bad mistakes, bad turnovers. We we played a
much stronger gain against the Thunders.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
And you know why that it sucks that they lost
the final. It does, obviously, But if you had asked
me today, or if you had asked me Saturday morning,
what I would rather see if the Spurs, you know,

(58:22):
beat the Thunder but lose to the Knicks, or just
lose to the Thunder. Obviously, But the thing that I'm
trying to think of a way to phrase it because
the game, yeah, well, and the game last night didn't
matter towards the record. So the biggest silver lining in

(58:43):
all of this is paid the Spurs. Only the Spurs
get a win over the Thunder that actually counts towards
regular season record standing. Saturday night count right exactly, and
the confidence of getting a win over the Thunder, I

(59:03):
would say the win Saturday night was Okay, here's how
I phrase it. The win Saturday night was more important
than winning that game last night was, even though last
night was the final.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Unless unless Oklahoma City goes on a losing street, which
I don't really see happening. We're playing for third and second,
you know, so we can get some home court advantage, yeah,
and hopefully play the Thunder in the Western Conference finals,
you know, and we just need to keep pace because
it's it's gridlock right there between the Lakers.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
That we were, Denver Lakers, Spurs, Rockets, Yeah, and t
Wolves aren't far behind.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
They're not far by. It's like it's two games in
between all of them. So that's gonna be I see
that being a theme. And I don't see any one
of them going on like a six game, six and
eight game losing streak or.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Something barring injury. I mean that's the way. Yeah, yeah,
that's the only way I could.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
I don't like to put that in existence. Sure, I
think I agree with that, the top six or lowing injury.
We only lost two games with Wimby.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Out three, right, nine and three is what it ended
up being.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Yeah, Okay, so we lost two games with Stefan Castle
and we out, but we lost one with Wiby out
right after Castle came back.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
But again, the experience of playing in a game like that,
of playing in back to back games like that, yeah,
for a roster that you know, Keldon Johnson is the
longest tenured Spur and the most games the Spurs have
won seventh year twenty eighteen nineteen. Yeah, so six seven

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six or seventh year. The most games the Spurs have
won since Keldon was drafted is thirty four.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
So this team has no experience with meaningful games as
a collective unit. Fox played in playoff series with the Kings.
You know, Barnes has played in playoff series. Cornette obviously
in Boston won the chance that was. But this group
together has no experience in games that means something.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
So in that sense, that was their mantra in the
beginning of the season is we're tired of losing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Yeah, like we're going in, we're going for it. Well,
and they announced to everybody else that, yeah, not only
are we tired of losing, but we're going to do
something about that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Yeah, it's changed. And I mean Dylan harper Man, you
could see why that guy could have been number one
overall if it wasn't Cooper Flag. Yeah, coming in and
this team, imagine everybody, I can't, like, I almost want
to not be a member of some of these Spurs
sites that are like what about Giannis, what about the

(01:01:50):
lebron James? Come on, what about this coming over, and
I'm like, no, just let this team cook. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Harper and Castle are untouchable.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Yeah, they're stars, the Harper, Castle and Fox. Right now,
I don't want to get rid of Fox. You know,
if you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Could work a deal built around Fox for Yannis and
keep Harper and Castle.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
That's too much chaos. That's too much chaos right now
we're flowing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Yeah, now, I look, I don't I don't disagree. I
don't disagree, and I want to see this group grow
together as a team. Like I said, but I also
do understand.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
It's Gianni's exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
But it's one of the three best players in the world,
and you've already got one of the other two.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
It would be, It would be. But that to me
seems like the desperate Lakers Hall of Fame team that
went to the finals and lost to the Pistons.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
But I would remind you that desperate Lakers team was
picking forty year old Gary Payton, forty year old Karl Malone.
This is Yannis in his prime, still with half a
dozen years where he can be your second best or
still first best. Over win like conversation for another time.

(01:03:06):
But I agree with you. The you know, Harper and
Castle now don't need to be mentioned in any trade
whatsoever the other names on the roster or let me
go back a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
The experience for the team growing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Together is a big, something big to be excited about
coming out of the last two games. But also the
experience for Mitch Johnson. Yeah, a guy, first year coach,
first year full time coach, knows it's his first technical
of the season.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Loved it and guess what he successful? Why did that three? Now?
I swear if you're in the act of shooting and
you're up about to release the ball, that should be
a that should be a continuation.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
And it is if you're in the act of shooting.
They called it on the pass where it wasn't He
still wasn't actually up and shooting yet. Are you talking
about which one?

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
Are you talking about the one where he got the
tech where he was like running the first successful challenge, Yeah,
where like oh buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Flopped yeah and fell back and he said that's an
effing terrible call and got the technical for saying that.
But also one the challenge was successful. Yeah, I mean,
I think most of the time there's a little more
leeway there, but watching it last night.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Live, because he passed the ball and then he was
cutting to the hole, but it didn't look he take
two steps after the ball was.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
I can't remember who the shooter was, but it didn't
look like they were actually starting the motion yet it
still looked like it was some hesitation there. But getting
Mitch Johnson getting experience in these types of games also,
I don't think can be overshadowed the the what's going

(01:04:54):
to determine how far the Spurs team goes this year,
The inconcei instancy of an average rookie. A normal rookie
eventually ends up showing its space and coming back to
bite you or at inopportune times if you're relying on
a rookie in a playoff series. So I'm gonna take
whatever I get from Dylan Harper. And if he doesn't

(01:05:17):
show up in a playoff game, he's a rookie, I
need we need to have a plan for him not
showing up. The guys that are going to determine how
long or how far this Spurs team go. It's Darren Fox.
You're really your veteran out of the star level guys
you have on your team, one of one of the

(01:05:37):
two all stars on the team, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
And then Devin Vessel, because when vas Cell can give.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
You twenty points and be a fourth score for this team.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Is visille Danny Green? I think there's because he's more
than Green used to score fifteen plus we usually won.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
I think I would it would be interesting to go
back and look at see what the record is when
Vessel scores twenty, See what the Spurs record is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
That would be let's get some AI overlord crap on that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Yeah, you believed, if you believed in the use and
the value of AI.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
I just remember during all the Spurs run the you know,
the what was it? Not the not race for sas,
but what was the one for five?

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Oh my god, I'm blinking, uh see yeah, what was it? No?
Hold on, no, it's all.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
It's the fight for fifth? Yeah. Oh my god, help
us out, chat, come on, we're dying here.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
I can't remember what it was now because all I've
been thinking about is race for say yeah, and then
we were talking about set in French either way, either way,
did you see the Knicks aren't gonna hang a banner
in Madison Square Garden. They're not gonna hang out.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
The strive strive.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Oh yeah, drive for five five.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Thank you, sir, thank you, check Can Stokes. I'm butchering
your name, buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Sorry, you nailed it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
I'm sure you nailed it. Now.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
The Knicks aren't gonna put a NBA Cup champion banner
up in Madison Square. Garden rafters what No, yeah, are
they No, they're not, They're they're not.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
It's a it's a little it's a little, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
But if you put if you put banners up saying
you won the Atlantic Division or the Southwest Division, if
you put division banners up?

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Does the Knicks put division banners? We don't put division.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
I think it's team by team choice. I just think there's.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Some I think we put Western Conference finals like we
went when you win the Western Conference finals.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
See and even that, I agree with you. I would
like it to either be only championships or championships and
the NBA Cup. I don't like any of the like
if you actually won hardware, put a banner up there.
The Lakers have. They have the banner for most consecutive

(01:08:22):
sellout concerts by the Eagles in in Staples or Crypto,
whatever it's called now. And they put an NBA Cup banner.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Obi died and it all went to hell.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Yeah, and Mark Cuban retired Kobe's number from the MAVs
and then went back on it when no one else
around the league followed suit. Yeah, Yeah, there's some funny
there's some funny, funny stuff hanging in the rafters of
various NBA arenas. Do you have any other thoughts on
the game last night?

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
The only other thought is Steph Castle's got to stop
turning the ball over. For three games now, I've seen
him give up four to five turnovers and it's long passes.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
He was only credited with two last night, but it
felt like more right, It felt like like, I, I mean,
Fox Ledleman turnovers last night.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
Oh really, Winby was turned like, I mean, I get
Wemby's rush turning over, but I just I'm seeing a
theme more and more.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Is it okay to have a slight criticism of Wimby?

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Yeah, Sometimes things look a little too rushed. Yeah, And
sometimes there's I feel like a pacing like it's just
trying to go. He sees where it needs to go.
He sees where he can get to the basket or
where he can go and sometimes it's just a little
too rush.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
He needs to work on his hand Well, I mean,
how can I tell his seven foot five guy work
on your handles, you know what I'm saying. But if
his handle's going wrong, he seems a little panicky.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Yeah, you know, there's a little bit of that. There's
a little bit of that in the game. But I
also think.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
He needs to go visit his Shallo monks man.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Yeah, yeah, I do. I do think that's something that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
To America man, Like what was it on Silicon Valley,
Gavin Noose?

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Uh oh, yeah, ivn't.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Had the guy that this little guy that would follow
him around everywhere as a spiritual advisor.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Should also mention you kind of talked to you, kind
of threw it out there at the beginning of the show.
Wimby did get terrible family news yesterday before the game? Yes,
mourning man.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Yeah, his grandmother passed away hours before the game. Yeah,
so he strapped it up and still went out there
with a heavy heart. Like if he's anything close like
I was close to my grandmother, Like we're all close
to our you know. Yeah, that's a big one, like
our grandfather's man, you know, there are always heard heart
asses on us, but the grandmother, you know, that's the

(01:10:49):
one where you get the special relationship with and heart
goes out to you. Wimmy man, thanks for sticking it out,
doing what you can if you need to take a
game off, and I feel you know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Yeah, that's one of those deals, you know, across across
sports when we've seen it. You know, when a guy decides,
you know, I I don't, I can't. I don't want
to play tonight. I can't play tonight. I'm not ready.
I completely mental mental wellness day.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
But then I also just as much understand you know,
the Wind or the Brett. It's not even about money.
It's more of the uh you know, the they would
have wanted me to play, or that mentality or I'm
going to go out there and play in honor of Do.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
You know when his dad, Brett Faar's dad died that
game when he went absolute ham uh huh. He had
a concussion. He doesn't remember.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Oh yeah, that's what Yeah, Like that was the old NFL.
And that's also what he told the judge in the
welfare case, like, oh, I had a concussion. I don't
remember anything.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
I don't know what happened, but then we have text messages.
I was like, that was before text messages minor details.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Uh, well, let's move on because we got to get
to our main Seggie along with a little bit of
cow notes here. So we'll mark it nine seventeen. You know,
we're gonna have to pick the games still every week,
so there's gonna be some There's gonna be some cow
talk as we think about. You want to, okay here,

(01:12:19):
I'll start with this. Cowboys host the Chargers Sunday afternoons.
You want to take a guess at what the line.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Is Chargers negative four and a half. You want to
take another guess? Cowboys good start negative one and a half, two.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
And a half. The Cowboys are somehow two and a
half point favorites.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
Yeah, boys want to make some money. I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
I don't get it. I don't get it at all.
It opened, It opened at Cowboys minus one and a half,
and it's been bet up to Cowboys minus too.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Herbert with the bad left hand, we saw it starting
to affect him a little bit last week when on
hand like on run plays. But you got Omaron Hampton
back videll is playing as an RB one, a RB
one B type guy. That's that that punch that running

(01:13:19):
back duo is doing. Wonders right now. I think you
are missing. I'm wondering if Quentin Johnson is out. I
mean even still, that doesn't that doesn't move the line.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Yeah, as much as I would have.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Yeah, because he was hot in the beginning and then
some mucht lately. Quentin Johnson questionable. Let's see, it looks
like keenan Allen's gonna play Gotsen or Gutsen. I don't know,
it sounds like a Norwegian name. The tight end is

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gonna play. But I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
There's still I mean nothing you said there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
They're played the Chargers line. I think there's like three
missing starters on their line. Yeah. Well, on the offensive line,
the Cowboys has. Why Herbert's getting matched.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
The Cowboys have one of the least effective defensive lines,
at least now, not so much on the inside with
quinnin Williams there. But he's in concussion protocol, so we'll
even see if he plays on Sunday. Yeah, you want
to hear a fun Cowboys step?

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
The last time the Cowboys scored twenty points. Actually, the
last time the Cowboys scored less than twenty points and
won the game was two and eighteen.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
Let me double check my notes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
Yeah, yeah, that's correct.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Cap.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
The last time the Cowboys scored less than twenty years ago,
twenty nine game losing streak. If they don't score twenty,
they don't win.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Well, they're gonna score over twenty on the Chargers, so
I'm expecting. I'm hoping for a shootout, hoping for a shootout.
But you know, I don't understand why the Cowboys are favored.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
I don't either, That's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
They're not like three points for road for home, so
they're technically not favored by half a point.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Yeah, but I mean no, it's two turf teams.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Are they checked out?

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Do I think Pickens is going to be checked out? Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
See, that's the you know, that's the question now of
what does what do these next three games look like
for the Cowboys? Does does the decision need to be made?
Even though Dak doesn't want to to sit him because
what's the value of playing in he.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
Wants his numbers. He wants the numbers, of course.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
And he wants It's not as much. It's not just
his numbers, it's also a wide receiver incentive number like
Ryan Floornoy is close to a contract incentive. I think
it's five hundred yards or maybe six hundred something like that,
the fourth receiver, third third. Now, yeah, so you know
Dak wants to be in there for that for good

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and shoddy today and his press conference said they're not
even considering it because his goal is to win games
and build a winning culture.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
So you got a one percent chance. So you're saying
there's a chance.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
But by the time they kick off on Sunday, they'll
know whether the Eagles have won or not.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
They got the Sunday night game, No, but the.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
Eagles play Saturday, Oh, so they'll know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
I kind of want to see the Eagles lose the
next two games.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
It would be great, wouldn't it, just for the drama,
and then the Eagles win the final game, which is
not very likely but not very unlikely. I mean, the
Eagles haven't haven't looked great themselves and have their own
history of late season tank jobs. The quickly I'll burn

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through some of the more the game from last week
Sunday Night disappointment against the Vikings there aren't. The winners
and losers from that game don't matter. Nine nine got them.
I do think some overarching thoughts from it, the fact

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that in a game the Cowboys knew they had to win, Yeah,
Schottenheimer chose to kick six field goals. There's no there's
no universe where the Cowboys can attempt six field goals
in a game with the defense they have currently. I
think that was coaching malpractice.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
And and two of them Aubrey, Yeah, the Yips, not
all the after the fake field goal on the first possession. Yeah,
and the week before Aubrey won me a game to
get into the playoffs with another five field goals and
four fifty yarders.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
That's the other thing. If they do sit back, it's
gonna screw up some people's fantasy football playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely no. Like, I don't see him
sitting unless he has an injury. That's lingering, and I
don't he don't think he has injury.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Yeah, I don't think we're going to get that. The
heat is being turned up on Eberflus. The defensive coordinator,
Jerry is coming out rightfully sold completely agreed. Normally. The
only reason it surprises me is because normally Jerry doesn't
like to eat money on a coach's contract, and that's
what it would require if they move on from Eberflush

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after this year. But Jerry came out and said yesterday
on one of his five million radio shows, you know,
the next three games are not about building for next year.
The next three games are about basically showing me you
deserve to have a job talking about eber flu.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
So, you know, on a side note, if I was like,
if I was a cameraman and I got the update
that Michael Parsons suffered a knee injury, I would just
immediately go he's that thing and wait till someone chirps
in his ears. Yeah, and see if Jerry smiles.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Speaking speaking of chirping in the ear, did you see
Stephen Jones on the walkie talkie the old.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
Nineteen they'll break, They'll break. It looked like Zach Morris.
I'm like, who are you talking to someone in Oklahoma, dude?

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
So apparently he was talking to the training staff. He
was talking to Cowboy Doctor, one of his minions down
there on the sideline. Because that's another winner I have
Cowboy Doctor made. He got multiple screen appearances in the
game Sunday Night, the Cowboys head trainer that wears the
cowboy at looks like a dime store cowboy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
That just reminds me of any given Sunday where the
doctor thinks he's like higher than the team and stuff. Right,
he's all there flossing, going out with the cheerleader and like, I.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Mean, it wouldn't surprise me if cowboy doctor was making
sure the cheerleaders knew who he was and his status
with the organization.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
Oh, you need me to massage that hamstring. Me, let
me check that out, Let.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Me loosen that up a little bit, so to speak.
The uh other big question, and I think the question
has already been answered, and uh it's time to move on.
Trayvon Diggs, I think is officially played his last snap.
But if you're not going to activate him and use

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him for that game Saturday Night, and you're certainly not
gonna do it now that you're basically eliminated from the
playoffs because if he gets hurt, his money next year
is fully guaranteed and they have the contractual ability to
get out of it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
And if he plays games, Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
So he's paid. He's paid currently yeah he gets he
gets weekly paid, but get a salary.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
But then if you play the game, you get more
of that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
I think he gets. I think it's just if you're
as long as you're not suspended, you get your weekly
game check, no matter.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
What, if you're on the pup list or if you're
not on the well.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
I think the pup is different because that's physically unable
to perform, not injured. Not injured.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
Remember because of the little Brandon I debacle, how.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
They got out of Yeah, how they got all that money.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
Play the game, He's gonna get more money, Like, yeah,
it's it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
Wouldn't Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if they have some
of the language and digs contract as well.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
Brandon and I. You pulling Antonio Brown so early? You
do not have that much CTE sor.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
Yes, it's still you still have still have at least
another eighteen months before we should have seen that. Maybe
maybe you could have made it twelve. Let's see if
I had any other Cowboys notes. Oh, lastly, the big
I think the biggest loser for me. Despite the emotional

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loss of being invested in the Cowboys the rest of
the way, I was starting to get emotionally invested in
the new season of Hard Knocks the inn season with
the NFC East, I was thinking.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Are you gonna stop watching it? Now?

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
I'll still watch watch man, I'll still watch, but it's
it's not nearly as exciting. Like I watched the episode
from Tuesday night, I haven't watched that one yet. I
watched it this morning. I was had it on while
I was doing the run sheet. I couldn't tell you
a whole lot that came out of it. It was

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it was background noise. I was super hyped for the
first two episodes.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
But if the Eagles lose and the Cowboys win, I
can't wait for the Hard Knocks on this next Tuesday. Yo,
our percent chances went up to thirteen percent.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
Chance.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
No, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
I think I think you might hear that. But to
a man, they know they they ended their season when
they lost to Minnesota on on Sunday night. You want
to do some rest of the league talk? Yeah, this
shift years get into the official main Seggie here at

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nine to twenty eight. So we talked about it last
night on the live stream the.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
Spurs watch party. Who the contenders are? Well, I was.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
Gonna say I was gonna start with, we talked about
our picks. Where we're at in our picks. So it's
been We've done two weeks worth of picks since the
last time we did a show. You and I have
been keeping up on keeping up with them on the side,
and I've managed to claw back one game from you.
Your four game lead is down to three. Uh. And

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funny enough, last week, you and I had all of
the same picks and the only game we missed was
the Cowboy game.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
And let's and let's put this out there. I picked
first on every game except the Cowboys. I picked first.
So you just copied me?

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
Well, I just I couldn't. I couldn't disagree with any
of them because they were all right. I didn't copy you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
I just do you want to win or you just
want to float on second?

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
I'm sorry?

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
Was that not the best I'm just I'm buttering you
up for this week?

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
Was that not the best outcome possible? I'm buttering I
just would drop a game?

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
I uh?

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
I was again again, if you can call it copying,
I will say selecting four out of the five correct,
because that's it, whether you went first or second, that's
exactly what I would have done, because if I had
been trying to catch you, I would have fallen into
the trap of taking the Patriots or the Packers in

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those games against the Bills and Broncos.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
So we got the Patriots epic collapse. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
The So right now, how we do our how we
do our contender category. It's based on Vegas Super Bowl odds.
So if you are a plus one thousand or less,
we include you in the contender category. And we talked
about this on the stream last night, but there are
five teams now that are under plus one thousand, Rams, Seahawks, Broncos, Bills, Eagles.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
Why the Eagles are still there? I just.

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
I would say I would say they're still there one
because it's the same team that won last year.

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
And two is it the same team.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
The I mean, the NFC has three of the five
teams and the next team after the Eagles is the Packers.
And when you have that many teams from one conference
all together, it tells me one Vegas doesn't believe in
the AFC, yeah, and two Vegas doesn't really know who's

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gonna win the NFC, but they think someone from the
NFC will win the Super Bowl. Yeah, so more teams
from the NFC are getting.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
The NFC North in the NFC West are the best
divisions in football right now.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
Hard to argue, Yeah, I mean it doesn't feel like
there's doesn't feel like there's much to argue there. Well,
I don't think we need to go. We'll hit some
of the highlights from from last week. Rams put a
dent in the Lions playoff chances. They win that one
by a touchdown forty one thirty four. How about forty

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four year old Philip Rivers almost got the win over
the Seahawks. It took a game winning field goal.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
It looked like he was trying to fit into his
old jersey. That's love was painted.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
On the optics. The optics weren't very good, but the
result was almost ideal.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
But we had classic Philip Rivers like talking all smack
on the sideline, massive trash talker. Oh, the old classic
ninety yard touchdown. He's like the Refords, like get out
of here, yeah, you just go, just go.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
Bills come back beat the Pats in New England season
where the Bills win in New England, the Patriots win
in Buffalo, and it looks like we might have a
new champion atop the AFC.

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
East there denvers looking. I mean, do I trust Bowl Knicks? No, no, no,
that's the question. But have I seen defenses yep win
Super Bowls? Yes, yeah, many a time Seattle. When Russ's
first one, he wasn't that good of a quarterback. The

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defense was shut down Baltimore two times with them, even
though Flacco put up some numbers, they still had Ed
Reed and ray Lewis Buccaneers Patriots the first three. I'm
not gonna give. That's like with the Tom Brady goat situation.
I hear it, and you're most likely right. But the

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fandom in me is like Joe Montana went there and
never lost, you know, and he broke records, but he
had to rely on defense. Tom Brady had to rely
on defense on three and I would have to say
his last one with Tampa, that defense absolutely shut down.
That Tampa defense was four out of his seven rings

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was D.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
I would also say that Tampa one, big, big D.
That Tampa one is also probably what puts him ahead
of Montana in my eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
Yeah, I mean, I get it, and that's where I'm like,
I hear you, but he was just checking down to Gronk,
and you know, and he had Evans Godwin, all these
amazing players, but that d was the one that really
just stuck it into him. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
They also had Gronk down there with him too.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
That's what I said.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
I know, I'm I'm I'm following ye falling Broncos eleven
game win streak with that. How many times? How many times?
How many times?

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
I was just waiting for you to be.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
Like, stop, that's toddler behavior. You're just waiting, just prodding.

Speaker 1 (01:29:59):
Just pro.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
It's it's a penis joke. Get hey, do you get it? Hey? Hey, hey,
I'm real clever. It's a penis joke.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
It's good.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
I'm going through the big deeds.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
Something like he would.

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
That is very Bob Griffin. That is very very Bob Griffin.
Eagles blow out the Raiders thirty one. Nothing. That's the
end of your contenders category.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
Really.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
The only other news from week fifteen was the injuries. Yeah,
Mahomes torn. ACL ends up having the surgery earlier today
or yesterday, replace repair the ACL, repair the LCLU, and
the Chargers beat the Chiefs in that game. After he
left injured, Gardner.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
Minshed with twenty seconds.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
Yeah, exactly. Minshew had two plays to try to get
them in field goal range and couldn't do it. Chargers
win that sixteen thirteen, officially eliminating the Chiefs from the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
Those long playoff runs, they they caught up to all
of them this year, plus Ray Right and ray Rice
almost ray Rice Yea. His six game suspension in the
beginning did not help whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
Now the other big injury Micah with the Packers, the guy,
the guy that Green Bay felt like they were one
move away from being a Super Bowl contender, and that
one move is now it kind of feels like they're
right back where they were last year.

Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
Yeah, Love is inconsistent, Like you don't know what, Jordan Love,
you're gonna get now. Watson's out with the concussion or
he's I don't know if his shoulder like I don't,
but I think he's gonna be out for a little while.
That's that's their deep threat. Golden from Ut is not
showing up to be the receiver everybody thought he was

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gonna be. He looks like he needs a couple of
years to develop. I don't trust the green Bay Packers man.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
No, I don't see how you can.

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
I mean, Josh Jacob's a beast, but he's been playing
injured all year.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
Who do you trust more right now? The Packers are
the Eagles? Right, that's a Quain flip, right, I feel like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
I think I mean, who do you think could take
out out of the playoff? The people in the playoffs
right now? The Niners. Do you think they beat both
of them?

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
Yeah? All right? Well, like if Detroit got into it,
do you think they beat both of them?

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
No? No, I don't think Detroit does. I think Detroit
has issues. Okay, Seattle, I think Philly beats them, but
not Green Bay.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
You think Philly beats Seattle with that defense?

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
I do because I think the the Saquon.

Speaker 1 (01:32:53):
And Sequon being a shadow of himself and their their
strength is their secondary in Seattle.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
But Saikwon being a shadow of himself over the last
three weeks, Like, I agree, he hasn't been good all season,
but specifically the last three weeks. The Eagles are down
two and at times three offensive linemen.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
All right, agreed, Agreed to disagree.

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
I just don't have a lot of faith in the Saks.

Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
Tampa Bay.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
No, No, Tampa Bay is completely Baker my radar. Now
the dude they lost.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
Mike Evans just came back.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
And they lost to the Falcons. Yeah, like no one
in that division wants to win the you.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
Know who else lost to the Falcons? The Niners. Every
once in a while, Sun shines on the dogs ass
once to day, but.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
It's different when it's time and place. Y'all lost to
him early. They Buccaneers lost to him last week with
the division.

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
Pits on the line your game for some reason. Yeah,
with no Drake London, Kyle Piss decided to be the
fourth overall pick.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
And I feel like that says more about Tampa than
it does Kyle pit It.

Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
Yeah, I'd still think I'd take Tampa.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
Over Philly and Green Bay.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
I take them over Philly. I take him over Philly,
But the Green Bay that would be a hard one.
But then you got La. Definitely you got Chicago.

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
See, I don't trust Chicagogos. Beat Green Bay, Yeah, but
I don't trust them. It's different in a playoff game.

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
Very good. I take Chicago over Green Bay and Philly
and there you go. That rounds it out.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
Now. See, I think still in my head the three
most likely NFC champions are the Rams, the Eagles, and
probably the Niners. That's probably the three that I but
just because I think there's still the pedigree is still there.
The team that won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
So dysfunctional right now?

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
Sure, but the NFL is such a week to week this.

Speaker 1 (01:35:00):
Of the ninety four Cowboys, you turn that around like
you have a super Bowl team, but for some reason
you can't get right, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
Yeah, comparing this Eagles team to the ninety four Cowboys,
you're already losing the article.

Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
Well I'm not personally, I'm just saying a super Bowl
winning team and then the next year they got damn
near the same personnel. They lost their defense, Like they
lost their coordinator, what was it, they lost their offensive coordinator, right, yeah,
lost both Actually just yea Detroit lost both Eagles lost

(01:35:42):
just Kellen Moore. Yeah, I think, yeah, so they lost
their offensive cornerator. We got a disgruntled wide receiver. All
I'm Michael Orbon and that could have been Troy Aikman.
And I'm just like, I don't see them their head
get headspace being in there to make a run to
the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
That's fair. I mean, I don't think there's a lot
to I don't think there's a lot to push back
on there. I just I don't. I think it says
more about it's not my trust in the Eagles, it's
my lack of faith in the Bears, Seahawks, Lions.

Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
Seahawks scare the crap out of me.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
Man, not Sam Darnold doesn't scare the crap out of me.
We had he had just as good of a defense
last year.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
And you think the Vikings defense was better than Seattle's
this year?

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
I said, just as good of last year. I was
a fourteen win defense last year.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
Yeah, but that was justin Jefferson And well, I mean
you got turn out those Well, who's that which one?
J Jackson?

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
Yeah, there you go, just say it fast now. I
think it just says more about my lack of faith
in in a lot of teams in the NFC. Right now,
let's do some picks before we get too much further behind.
We'll try to squeeze it in and we'll try to
get LG some rest before his long day tomorrow. So
we gotta pick cows, we gotta pick Niners. Cowboys are

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two and a half point favorites. At home against the Chargers.
It's Chargers.

Speaker 1 (01:37:15):
I mean, I'm I'm not gonna make a game up. No,
I think I'm good.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
I think I am.

Speaker 1 (01:37:21):
God's gonna be looking down on him wishing them a
merry Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
I think I am good. There. We'll both take Chargers
and you're Niners up next.

Speaker 1 (01:37:31):
You want to guess the line, Niners at Colts at
Colts seven and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
Good guess Niners minus six.

Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
Nine six. I mean, I'm taking the Niners, taking the
Niners to Philip, poor Philip Rivers. I don't know if
he's gonna last that game. We're gonna blitz the crap
out of them, So we're gonna stack the box and
blitz them.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
He just survived against a better defense and he almost
won the game, and he only lost it by two points.
And that was on the road in Seattle.

Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
Yeah, sure, sure that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
I watched your Niners backdoor cover the Titans last week.

Speaker 1 (01:38:14):
That was eleven and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
It still took till the fourth quarter to.

Speaker 1 (01:38:18):
We dominated every point.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
But it was Yeah, it was under that cover.

Speaker 1 (01:38:23):
So for some reason, cam Ward made some amazing passes
and Pollard broke off some runs, but we also had
some self inflicted Once again, that's the story of Niners.
If we turned the ball over, we're beating ourselves.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
So I'm not gonna make up a game from the
Cowboys pick because we picked the same.

Speaker 1 (01:38:45):
Yeah, this is where the Colts plus points plus six points,
so a.

Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
Lot of points for a Colts team that is still
playing for their playoff off life. There's a really, really,
really big part of me.

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
Where are they playing.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
They're playing in Indy. In Indy, Colts are the first
team out. I can't I can't do it. I can't
talk myself into forty four years old. I gotta take
your I gotta take your Niners.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
This is this is this is this, this is like
a storyline.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
I've got three more weeks to make up three games.
I've only got to get one game a week. I'm
trying to pick at least just one game, one game
a week where I'm gonna get you. So here's the
list of the other game. Okay, Rams at Seahawks. That's
Thursday night football, really good game. Packers at Bears another

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really good game, and that's Saturday night. So those are
two primetime games.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
We gotta get. Thursday, I liked. I like doing all
the spread outs, so like the twelve o'clock.

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
Game, Well, then I say we do we do those
two Rams Seahawks Packers because that's Thursday night and Saturday night,
and then Sunday we've got Bucks at Panthers. It's both
seven and seven. It's gonna determine the division. Basically, Jags
at Broncos ten and four versus twelve and two. Good

(01:40:18):
boring AFC matchup, Steelers at Lions both eight and six.
That's your Oh no, that's three o'clock Sunday, and then
Pats at Ravens. That's your Sunday Night football. I like
that one, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
And Monday's horrible, right, eleven.

Speaker 2 (01:40:37):
And three Patriots seven and seven, Ravens your Monday Niners
Colt Monday Night. So we've got we've got the Monday
night enjoy that one. Chat, We've got the Monday night game.
So let's start. We'll start with a Thursday night. You
pick first. So we're at Seattle, eleven and three. Rams
at the eleven and three Seahawks. Apparently the Rams team

(01:40:59):
plane was delayed for hours today. Seahawks leaving for Seattle are.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
Petty little people man, they do some stupid stuff, but
they're playing at.

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
The Seattle is home and they are one and a
half point favorites.

Speaker 1 (01:41:17):
No, Dvante Adams, whokah is.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
Pukah's bitching about the refs on Aiden Ross.

Speaker 1 (01:41:23):
Streams, Kyrine Williams and Blake korm They that's another duo.
I gotta pick Seattle on this one. I gotta pick Seattle.
Lock it in, lock it in, man that that defense
is a little bit better, and they're missing Seattle. Seattle,

(01:41:44):
as Belichick would say, Seattlewattle, Seattle minus one and a half,
which opens up the door for Greg you're gonna watch it, don't.

Speaker 2 (01:41:54):
Lie, opens up the door for me to take Rams
plus one and a half. We have our first difference.
All right, all right, let's move on Saturday Night. Packers
at Bears Bears one and a half point favorites in Chicago.

(01:42:14):
Weather shouldn't be an issue for either one of these teams.
Whether it's not an issue, yeah, because they're both cool,
they're both cold, both used to it's going to be rainy.

Speaker 1 (01:42:25):
That's a good question. I don't know, because you know
it's going to be rainy in Seattle.

Speaker 2 (01:42:29):
Why did this game. Oh because of Micah. So this
game opened Packers minus three and it's now Bears minus
one and a half. That's a four and a half
point swing.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
Mike, he would disrupt. Caleb's gonna have time in there.
And I think Doozier is supposed to play.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
Yeah, I believe so.

Speaker 1 (01:42:48):
So I got to take I don't trust. And then
the Bears. Who did the Bears play last week?

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
They beat the breaks off the Browns thirty one to three.

Speaker 1 (01:43:03):
So they played a good defense and they show they
can put up points. In the words of Mike Dicka,
the Bears final answer, Dika final answer, all right, well
we're gonna have some volatility. Oh still he's still going

(01:43:24):
for the Packers.

Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
Huh. I am still going for the Packers. And until
I see the Bears.

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
They beat them already.

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
I know, and they beat the Eagles, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:43:37):
I know in their house. I know.

Speaker 2 (01:43:41):
Packers are playing for Mica.

Speaker 1 (01:43:43):
When they're playing, they're playing for.

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
Playing for Maca. They're gonna do it for Mica. Uh No,
it's I think I can win one.

Speaker 1 (01:43:51):
Of these games.

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
The question is if I win one and get one wrong,
then I'm right. It's the same as picking the same,
and so we'll see, we'll see. I'm gonna try, well,
you can win both, who knows, that's what I'm hoping for.
Let's let's win them all. As the great Norm hitch
Kiss would say.

Speaker 1 (01:44:07):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
And then lastly, you said Pats Ravens. Yeah, most interesting
to you.

Speaker 1 (01:44:12):
That's because the Ravens are still fighting for a wild
card spot and the Pats are coming off or lost.
They had what, uh, they had a pretty long win
streak going on.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
Man, it was a ten game win streak and they was.

Speaker 1 (01:44:24):
The only one longer was the Denver Yeah, they were.

Speaker 2 (01:44:26):
They both had ten game win streaks going into their
games respective games last week.

Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
So I think Rabel's gonna light a fire underneath their ass.
And what's the what's the line?

Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
So it's kind of it's kind of deceptive. It's uh,
Ravens minus.

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
Three, Ravens minus three in Baltimore and Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
Yeah, and the line hasn't moved a whole lot.

Speaker 1 (01:44:52):
So Ravens defense has become the Ravens defense once again.
You know, they are shutting it down.

Speaker 2 (01:44:59):
Signs of reclamation.

Speaker 1 (01:45:01):
Yeah, but the Pats Trayvon Henderson fifty yard runs, Drake
May Stefan Diggs, Booty's supposed to come back defense Rabel
coaching talking about ah Pats, give me the Pats.

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
Yeah, I don't. I don't see how I can take
a seven and seven team over an eleven and three
team when you're giving me points. If I take the
eleven and three team, I think I agree with you.
I think we're both going Pats plus three.

Speaker 1 (01:45:41):
Damn. I almost want to change it to the Ravens,
just to the kink in your.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
Place, to have an odd number. So we both take
the Chargers over the Cows. We both take the Niners
over the Colts. Of course. Yeah, I take the Rams,
you take the Hawks. That is Thursday night football. I
take the Packers, you take the Bears. That is the
Saturday night game on Fox. And then we both take

(01:46:06):
the Pats. So okay, man, Hopefully I can make up
a little bit of ground this week. We'll see, And.

Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
Y'all get ready for that Monday night football watching. Of course,
everybody's gonna be watching.

Speaker 2 (01:46:20):
Of course, it's Monday night football. What else, and especially now,
what else? Is there?

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
Not a damn thing?

Speaker 2 (01:46:30):
No, not at all? All right, LG, let's do some
light or did we have any other super chats.

Speaker 1 (01:46:36):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:46:37):
Well, thank you, Zeb, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
I hope your team dies.

Speaker 2 (01:46:41):
Thank you Royce from last night.

Speaker 1 (01:46:43):
Zeb.

Speaker 2 (01:46:43):
Keep doing what you're doing, Playboy, chase that money. Let's
get let's do some lightning round LG. I know you
mentioned it last night, but we need to say it
again here at the top. You and I are going
up against each other in fantasy football this week. This
is my championship game. We did a little bit, we

(01:47:04):
did some of the update last night, but who else
is even still alive? What are our matchup?

Speaker 1 (01:47:11):
We got the wild card line like Arizona Man himself,
Phoenix Sun's loving used to be a Laker fan, switch teams.
He's going against the theater kid, the a whole theater kid,
and that that matchup is quite It looks good. I'm

(01:47:36):
let me, I'm looking at I see he made some moves,
Old Chairman mil Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:47:40):
I got the I got an alert that went off
on my phone as I was watching that Lockheed Martin
documentary at three thirty in the morning. I guess our
waiver wire officially closed. Her waiver claims were processed.

Speaker 1 (01:47:55):
Yeah, so it looks like Patrick Mahomes. So he's gonna
have to start break may Ai the a whole theater
kid and Higgins, I mean two concussions in three games.
This might be where the Wildcard Wildcards with his dynamic
duo of a wide receivers Puka Nakula and Antonio. I'm on,

(01:48:18):
say Brown, that's gonna be. You know, wild Card's got
a chance. Wild Cards got a chance. I think I'm
pulling for him. And of course I see zeb made
some moves he actually put back in. Oh he still
has still not starting game. Well thanks Aaron Jones Senior

(01:48:39):
is gonna be doing better Brock Bowers against Houston's d
Jonathan Taylor against San Francisco d the I see Swift
doing good things. I see Dick's doing good things, Chase
doing good things. And then Jalen Hurts put up another
point four for me this week. That's really put another

(01:49:00):
point four for me.

Speaker 2 (01:49:01):
That's really been an issue here.

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
That's that's your contender category right there. Yeah four.

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
Uh, Well, let's I just hope everybody has fun. I
hope we all enjoyed the ride. Did Ogita I get
just I hope we smash here hit me LG who
won the Heisman Trophy.

Speaker 1 (01:49:27):
Oh, the kid out of Indiana.

Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
Yeah, what's his name?

Speaker 1 (01:49:32):
Gonzales Martinez?

Speaker 2 (01:49:36):
Getting closer, Actually, yes, you are getting closer. It starts
with an M, and it is he's Cuban American. Yeah, Fernando.
And that's my point of exactly does the do we
still care about the Heisman Trophy?

Speaker 1 (01:49:53):
Not when it's not when you don't have a dynamic player.

Speaker 2 (01:49:56):
Man this this year, you know, it was almost his
by default.

Speaker 1 (01:50:00):
Yeah, it's like we didn't have someone that just really
snatched it. So I like, uh, what was it? What's
that buddy out of Vanderbilt? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:50:11):
Diego Pavia. Diego Pavia made way more news than the.

Speaker 1 (01:50:16):
Actual winners, sitting there flicking off the all the haters
out there, f the voters, f the voters. You can
see why he went through Juco first.

Speaker 2 (01:50:26):
Also, did you see the picture of all of them
standing together?

Speaker 1 (01:50:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:50:31):
And Pavia is the same listed height as Jeremiah loved
the Notre Dame running back and he's half a foot shorter. Man,
it's not even close. Him claiming six feet would be
like me claiming seven feet.

Speaker 1 (01:50:45):
He went to go get he had some tims on
when he went to go get his HiPE check.

Speaker 2 (01:50:50):
No, it's I it's I remember being a kid, and
not even just being a kid, but like even five
years ago, having much more of a I think you're right, though,
it's just a it's just a down.

Speaker 1 (01:51:04):
Year, like like I mean, think of the ones like
Reggie Bush, Toua was putting up numbers. Uh what was it?
Jalen Hurts put up numbers, Cam Newton put up numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:51:15):
Even Travis Hunter playing both sides of the ball at Colorado.

Speaker 1 (01:51:18):
I was exciting. Do you know? Trevor Lawrence put up numbers,
Reggie Bush, Vince Young, like Colt McCoy, you know, all
those stupid Sooners.

Speaker 2 (01:51:29):
How was about to say, I think only one of
those guys you just listed actually won the Heisman and
it got taken away from him. Reggie Bush, What are
you talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:51:37):
Vince Young won the Heisman?

Speaker 2 (01:51:39):
No he didn't, He got taken He finished second to Reggie.

Speaker 1 (01:51:42):
I thought he won the Heisman in his second year.
Huh oh that's right. Well did he win the highs?

Speaker 2 (01:51:50):
They vacated and they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:51:52):
It didn't win the Heisman to it won the Heisman?

Speaker 2 (01:51:55):
Did he? Davante won the Heisman?

Speaker 1 (01:51:57):
Davante but that was like a year or two after two.
Maybe I just remember Alabama Quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (01:52:05):
Twenty eighteen won the Heisman point on the board for
ol cap market up take it all right.

Speaker 1 (01:52:12):
Hit me LG. So going through everything, I got some
lists for you, the top ten players do never win
the Super Bowl? What would you say would be number
one on that list? Dan Marino, you are correct, sir,

(01:52:33):
damn number two on the list. Barry Sanders, you are
killing it? Is that number two? Yeah? Okay, all right,
let's go. Let's see we go three for three?

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
Oh god, three for three.

Speaker 1 (01:52:47):
It's a different position than those two.

Speaker 2 (01:52:51):
A receiver Calvin Johnson, Randy Moss, Randy Oh, Randy Moss
never won one, No.

Speaker 1 (01:53:02):
Because the perfect season they that's.

Speaker 2 (01:53:04):
Right, Okay, I forgot yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:53:07):
Yeah, So it goes and then they have Bruce Smith
number four. I guess, I mean, I guess that's through
the whole Bill's spiasco. Tony Gonzalez, Anthonyomunez, Deacon Deacon Jones,
Dick the Deacon Jones, Frank Tarkenton, and Jim Kelly.

Speaker 2 (01:53:25):
Fran Tarkenton whatever close enough. Also, it says Frank, oh
does it? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:53:31):
You sure? I mean I can read.

Speaker 2 (01:53:39):
Okay, I'll take your word for it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:41):
It might be frand, but this listen didn't got it wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
Yeah, that's not on you. Uh. Also, I'm receiving conflicting reports.
I don't think to A won the Heisman. What I
really don't think to won.

Speaker 1 (01:53:57):
You're trying to take away my points.

Speaker 2 (01:53:58):
I'm trying to now because as I'm I'm now emotionally
invested in being right, because it's I think you finished
second to Baker.

Speaker 1 (01:54:10):
Or Kyler one of those years. Now that I while
you do the top ten most difficult sports that the
Catalan gymnastics, boxing, ice hockey, water polo, motorsports, rugby, surfing,
figure skating, and rock clas.

Speaker 2 (01:54:25):
Okay, thank you for buying me time. No, Tua never
won the Tua never won the Heisman. So point retract
my point, retract the point hit me LG. So I
asked you boys at the top of the show if
the name Joe Ely means anything to you, and I
got blank stares and and absolute silent.

Speaker 1 (01:54:47):
So negative, good negative ghost.

Speaker 2 (01:54:50):
Joe Ely was a West Texan, grew up born in Amarillo,
grew up in Lubbock, went to the same high school
as the roommate. Actually was a big part of the
you know, progressive Texas country of the seventies, eighties onward,

(01:55:10):
played with Springsteen, played with alongside Willie you know that
whole scene. There's another man. There's another really big one
I'm missing, But the the one that is the crossover
that is a bit harder to explain. He sings back

(01:55:33):
up on the clash song should I Stay or Should
I Go? You know the classes should I Stay or
should I Go? Now? Okay, So Joe Eally is singing back,
you know, backing vocals in that. Yeah. He also sang
with James McMurtry, the son of the guy who wrote

(01:55:54):
Lonesome Dove, James McMurtry and Murchery McMurtry like mc mercury, mcmurcury,
gonna buy me a mc mercury.

Speaker 1 (01:56:05):
But the.

Speaker 2 (01:56:08):
He's just Texas country guy, extremely influential, massive, massive influence
in Texas country music. But listen, anytime someone dies, you
see a lot of stories being told about them. You see,
you know, obviously reading the obituaries, you hear stories you
might not have heard. Uh. This is just a small

(01:56:32):
look at the life of Joe Eely. This is from
Rolling Stone. I read this earlier today. To read the
bullet points of Ely's life is to assume it was fiction.
He formed a cult band, the Flatlanders, with fellow Texans
Jimmie Dale Gilmour and Butch Hancock that was up in Lubbock.
They recorded music, but it just set unreleased for decades,

(01:56:54):
so he gave up on music for a while. Joined
the Ringling Brothers circus. He was the horse trainer. He
handled the horses for the circus. Uh All almost got
trampled to death by a line of elephants while he
was working in the circus. He ended up going returning
to music, released his debut solo album and Crossed Paths,

(01:57:19):
and bef befriended Joe Strummer of The Clash, who eventually
invited him over to Europe because the thing interesting thing
about Europe and in the seventies and eighties, they were
absolutely in love with Texas songwriters like they loved Jerry

(01:57:39):
Jeff Walker loved you Know Towns van Zant, loved Guy Clark,
loved Joe Joe Ely.

Speaker 1 (01:57:47):
Like it was real.

Speaker 2 (01:57:50):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. No go ahead, disrespect the dead, No
go ahead, No, I'll tell you what, just do a
niners minute, go ahead, put him on the clock, Elga,
put on the clock, and.

Speaker 1 (01:58:01):
Any of those names.

Speaker 2 (01:58:03):
How do you not know any of those? No, you
grew up in Texas.

Speaker 1 (01:58:07):
Yeah, but I didn't listen to country. I was listening
to n W A bro.

Speaker 2 (01:58:12):
You can know them both. I know zero PIMPSI trade
the truth where you can like education. So all of
that was just during the seventies.

Speaker 1 (01:58:24):
In the eighties, the.

Speaker 2 (01:58:27):
Class ended up writing a song of Sandinista and they
have the line in there, there ain't no better blend
than Joe Ely and his Texas men. And then that
was when he would end up going on to sing
backing vocals on multiple Class songs, most well known of
the songs should I Stay?

Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
So the Class call like gave him a call out,
gave a shout out big time exactly. He's like, all right,
I'll come with you.

Speaker 2 (01:58:52):
Exactly exactly. So when the when the British punk legends
the Clash are shouting you out and you're a West
Texas country singer song or yeah, well chase that money.
That's where the money was at. So dead at seventy eight,
complications from Parkinson's for the great Joe Ealy, time comes

(01:59:13):
for all of us. You got anything else, that's all right,
hit me LG. The rest of this can go to
the cutting room floor for whenever we are back in
the room together. Something else happened over the weekend though,
while we were gone, and I don't think it's anything
that crosses our pass or at least not from a

(01:59:36):
level of interest. But I did see it. John Cena
had his last match right exactly last roll your eyes.
I don't this.

Speaker 1 (01:59:47):
Against against the Ring General himself.

Speaker 2 (01:59:49):
It's wrestling. I completely, I'm right there with you.

Speaker 1 (01:59:54):
That's the ring. He's called the ring General.

Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
See you you know more than I do.

Speaker 1 (01:59:57):
I just hated because Hun there is a technic technician
fighter and he basically put him in a rear naked
choke like it's UFC made it made him tap out?
Whoa it was? I was like, this is the weakest
Sindoff ever.

Speaker 2 (02:00:16):
Look at the nerd across the room from me. How
much more wrestling we got? Nothing but time? Give me
some more insight, dude.

Speaker 1 (02:00:23):
ESPN has been showing clips because now they own the wrestling,
and I think so. I saw the clip and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (02:00:30):
So, Joe Ely means nothing, He's a pimple on your ass,
but you want to do five solid minutes here on
John Cena's final match.

Speaker 1 (02:00:39):
That was it. I mean, for someone who's so big
and wrestling, Yeah, yeah, you're gonna You're gonna end with
him going.

Speaker 2 (02:00:48):
It looked pretty pathetic.

Speaker 1 (02:00:49):
It was. It was like, I'm like, that's the sindoff.
That's the sind off. It looked pretty for this guy's career.

Speaker 2 (02:00:57):
Well, and it also from what I was seeing reading,
it seemed like Triple H got his own backlash immediately
as they were channing. I believe it was something along
the lines of f U or something like that. As
he was walking out at the end of the Man
he came out, yeah, yeah, exactly, and he did his

(02:01:19):
final sind off. But all of that, congratulations on the career,
John Cena, all of that is just an excuse to
play one of my favorite moments in American history, the
night that John Cena, of all people, broke the news
to millions of Americans. Oh, yes, that we had just

(02:01:40):
eliminated the top military target.

Speaker 1 (02:01:47):
Please look, he's got hair on top of that.

Speaker 4 (02:01:51):
As a I've adopted from the men and women who
defend the freedom of this country.

Speaker 1 (02:01:57):
Oh, we have.

Speaker 4 (02:02:03):
Caught and compromised to a permanent end, Osama.

Speaker 1 (02:02:14):
Thanks Obama.

Speaker 2 (02:02:15):
We are the silliest. We are the silliest country on earth.

Speaker 1 (02:02:20):
Oh my god, you will say you has say us say.

Speaker 2 (02:02:32):
Just absolutely absurd scene the night that so I thought
it was.

Speaker 1 (02:02:38):
Him apologizing to the Chinese people.

Speaker 2 (02:02:41):
That one was good too. Yeah, that one was good
to Uh No, this one was.

Speaker 1 (02:02:45):
As we have caught and compromised and compromised. What does
that mean?

Speaker 2 (02:02:52):
It was He's a compromised forever compromised.

Speaker 1 (02:02:57):
I don't know. Yeah, I still Ice is still out
there killing people.

Speaker 2 (02:03:03):
Yeah, but at least, man, you were so good. You
made it two hours in three minutes. I wasn't even
gonna market explicit because LG dropped some S bombs. But
that's allowed in Japan. They're much more uh, they're much
more open about Yeah. Yeah, yeah, let's see ten oh.

Speaker 1 (02:03:28):
F bomb. John Cena is awesome and Peacemaker if you
watch it on age.

Speaker 2 (02:03:33):
One of bombs and that too, that is.

Speaker 1 (02:03:35):
A hilariously wonderful show.

Speaker 2 (02:03:39):
Well, on that note, watch Peacemaker. Congratulations on the on
the career John Cena cameo. What LG was telling me he's.

Speaker 1 (02:03:48):
A cameo on Oh yes he does. Yeah, what a
great one too. Yes this is John Cena.

Speaker 2 (02:03:55):
Okay, well, no spoilers.

Speaker 1 (02:03:57):
We just said it was John Cena. How's that I
didn't spoil anything.

Speaker 2 (02:04:02):
Make it out of here, you're given lines from the show.
Congratulations John Ceners, Osama Bin Laden Usa, Usa, Usa, Rest easy, Joe, Ellie,
We'll take it from here. We'll see you in Valhalla.
That'll do it for tonight. I don't know when we're
gonna We're gonna have to figure out a time to
do another show, but we might have one more before Christmas.

(02:04:24):
If not, Merry Christmas to everybody. Thank you, thank you,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:04:28):
If you're gonna, if you want to tune into Puma's
show on Friday, you might hear.

Speaker 2 (02:04:33):
Yes, I am hosting for Andy the rest of the
week on Ticket four to seven, and I think we're
gonna get the big Man Cap on Friday for that.
In fact, Cap tell the people how to get a
hold of you.

Speaker 1 (02:04:43):
The captains share too one Ozero on Insta an x.

Speaker 2 (02:04:47):
Uh find me on x at Biggest Puma Instagram, Biggest
Dot Puma like subscribe, do all the good things again.
Thank you all for the support this year. It's been
awesome to build this thing.

Speaker 1 (02:05:00):
LG welcome back.

Speaker 2 (02:05:02):
You streaming anytime this week. I don't know perfect well,
look for LG stream to pop up till then.

Speaker 1 (02:05:08):
That is an LG answer.

Speaker 2 (02:05:10):
You'll be good. Peace kids.

Speaker 1 (02:05:17):
What do we say about drugs? You just

Speaker 3 (02:05:23):
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