The Rangers Are Officially Cooked, the Cowboys Are a (self-described) Soap Opera, and Project Marvel Turns Violent

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lida Be lie Be, lie Be, line Be, Oh light
the Beam, boys and girls.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
We have a task at hand. We were back in
the room for a Wednesday night edition of The Sports
Cave with Biggest Puma. I don't think we're gonna get
to the Kelsey Brothers numbers. So they got up to
like one point two million live viewers today.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
So is that like a like who hits one point
two million?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Like CI and I think you're talking like Rogan Alex
Jones numbers there. I don't even think Alex is doing
one point two these days because.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
He's gonna give all that money back to the families.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, but somehow his lifestyle hasn't changed one bit. It's
weird how potentially maybe Peter Till might be funding all
of that. Oh, I am your host once again here
in the Sports Cave. I am Sam Freeze, joined as
always by Cap in LG where we broadcast on the
North Side, live on the North side of San Antonio,

(01:05):
where we are now only twenty two days away from
NFL Opening night, what exactly three weeks from tomorrow night
we will see the defending Super Bowl champions.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
I can't even think about like this until like fantasy
football is done once you get that clear. Yeah, like
when you have like seven leagues and you know.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, that's way too many. Well, what's what's the most
amount of leagues you've ever played in in one year? Like,
in one season? That would be are we talking double digits?

Speaker 3 (01:37):
That'd be a Baker's dozen, good losing.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
For those unfamiliar with old man terms, a Baker's dozen
is thirteen. Yes, th that is thirteen leagues in one season.
That is untenable. It's funny you mentioned fantasy football. Will
of course talk about our league throw that back out
for you. But we're gonna end the show. We're gonna
end the Lightning Round tonight with a one of a

(02:03):
clip I had honestly forgotten about until two of the
things brought it to memory. Obviously our fantasy football league
were starting, uh and then secondly the l A car
chase that we talked about on Monday.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yet rating it's.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Got me think he went full six stars and that
was full. We'll just do the housekeeping now. Still still
still not captured.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Do they even have a suspect?

Speaker 2 (02:35):
No, I don't think they have names. I don't think
they have Leeds names. An I think it was two
two guys, two guys, and potentially potentially even more involved
because they had the vehicle set up for him under
one of the over overpasses.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
That's like like that's like the Guy Ritchie movie, like
the Rat of God or something where.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Oh it's literally it's a video game movie. It's every
bit of it.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Set this up. This is the switch.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Get to the switch. Yeah, the uh, we got a
little bit of housekeeping to get to uh, because I
gotta I gotta give you an update on the the
guy who called me an idiot for pumping gas with
the car on UH. But no, we'll have along the way.
We're gonna the main segee. Since we didn't have as
much time on Monday night to get into it, and

(03:29):
then you derailed us by trying to blame everything on Trump,
uh when it comes to Project Marvel, So we had
we got to dive back into it because all jokes aside,
we have this story is going.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
We want facts.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Obviously, it's the you know right now in uh before
football season kicks off and the Cowboys take over everything
down here. The Project Marvel debate has kind of stolen
all the headlines so far this week and now, like
I said, we've got even crazier update to that story.
We'll get to that in the main segie. I got

(04:06):
some cow notes, some Cowboy notes anytime. I'm not a
big fan of playing Steven A. Smith audio on the program,
but anytime someone can leave him speechless during a first
take segment, Oh that's nice, we probably are going to
play that audio. So I've got some of that, and
we've you know, with my Rangers officially tail spinning into oblivion,

(04:30):
I've got some Jerry audio to play during the Cowboys
Notes to potentially at least cheer me up by making
me angry, if that makes sense. Yeah, because like with
the Cowboys, nothing they do. They can win twelve straight
games and or win twelve games in three straight regular seasons,

(04:51):
and I feel no joy whatsoever they did that. The
only team that had more regular season wins over that
year stretch was the Kansas City Chiefs, and I felt nothing.
The only thing that elicits any kind of remote emotional
response when it comes to the Cowboys these days is

(05:11):
just getting mad about Jerry. And I try not to
do it too much, but when the Rangers make me,
as Jerry would say, lower than a crippled crickets. Ass,
I need to go back to my bread and butter
to cheer me up a little bit. In that's Arkansas.
That's not even North Texas doesn't claim that one man. Frankly,
that is an Arkansas original. And then we got some

(05:33):
random NFL headlines that kind of involve tangentially involve the Cowboys.
We'll get into as well, and of course lightning around
to close it out. But I mentioned the housekeeping, so
I'll start with that. I'll tell you what. Let's start
with let's throw the email. Give the email again for
the fantasy because we're about halfway a little over halfway full. Now,

(05:56):
we're down to about four spots, four or five, so
jump in.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
We're actually I think five spots exactly.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
We have.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Sergio and Salvador both have sent out. I sent out
all the emails out just a couple of minutes ago
that I've received.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Those are two solid names. Those are competitors, big brain, Sergio.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
If they pick your own names, now, I suggest going
with something funny until I draft my team, and then
I incorporate one of the my player's name naturally, you know,
and then Salvador versus blitzers. I'm thinking these are generic names.
I encourage, I heavily encourage to get creative.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Sergio, I would suggest there's a great Streetlight manifesto song
named Hey Sergio.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Just oh my god, No one understands that.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
I guarantee there's one guy out there right now that's like, hell, yeah, brother,
give me more street lights.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
So just per se My team name right now.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Is I saw Streetlight backstage lived.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
The captain Creams competition. Okay, cream spell c r E
A M S.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
I'm not getting the joke. Help me explain it further.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Please creams all over his competition. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
You realize your competition is a bunch of dudes.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Hey they get cream too, Okay, we're equal opportunists. There
is no homophobia, no homophobia my jokes.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
No homophobias. Just I'm asking questions. I'm just trying to
do some research gap.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Sticks them a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
This is the silliest timeline is taking fifty thousand dollars
sign on bonuses is the silliest time.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
To be allowed behind the scenes. Puma, mister, mister four
quad box, you know news.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Stakes for the roommate. When I drove out here.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Just learned that Dean Kane joined Ice. Okay, this it
has been dominating the news, or like a week and
a half.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
It hasn't been dominating the news. This is where, this
is where it drives me crazy.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Ol gknew about it.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
The BBC didn't cover it one time because it's that's
this is America, okay, America, and we we are we
worry about our movie stars.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Is Dean Kane qualify as a movie star?

Speaker 3 (08:19):
He was Superman? Damn it on a TV show, right? Superman?

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yes? Yeah, I don't. I can't think of many blockbusters
Dean Kane was.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
No.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Hey, my quad boxes didn't. I still haven't caught up yet.
My quad boxes didn't give me much Dean Kine information
the past few days I completely had missed. I am
a politics nerd. I don't think you can pass the
physical but just by looking at them, I don't think
you have to these days. From what from what I've seen,

(08:48):
I am a politics nerd, but more on the wonk,
like policy wonk side of it, like all the culture
war bullshit that we fight over it, Like the Dean
Kane joining I so we can get couple interviews on
Fox and then it'll make the rounds on MSNBC where
they can laugh at him and then like all of that. Yeah,

(09:09):
that's a waste of everyone's time.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
I think Dean Kme was one of those people came
out like years ago when Trump's first term is just
because I'm Republican, I'm out cast in Hollywood and blah
blah blah, and it's like.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Broh, the Kevin Sorbo and it's.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Like, no, Dean, you haven't gotten a part. You're like
a voiceover and a dog movie. That's your latest.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
That might be I guess box office number that.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Literally had like three sequels. So but anyway, back to
Fantasy Football, we have I've set out we got three
logged in already. I sent out emails. Everybody that sent
me an email has received one, so check your emails.
We are twenty days away. That will be on live
on a Tuesday. I set it for eight thirty, so

(09:51):
we'll get into the room, get settled down, get everybody
you know, anybody has any questions or anything like that,
we can get through it and then we will be
going live with the draft.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Dean Kane was in rat Race. Oh my god, he's
just from two thousand and one.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Dude, I'm telling you I forgot mine.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
I can't get over it. I'm strict. I have a
whole run sheet and I'm about ready to tear it
up and just do two hours on Dean Kaine's filmography
here that I'm looking at.

Speaker 6 (10:20):
Man.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Uh yeah, no, if you give it, did you give
the email address?

Speaker 3 (10:24):
The email the capy Ton two one o at gmail
dot com, t A G C A p I T
A N two o O at gmail dot com. Or
you can hit us on Instagram the Captain's Chair two
one oh. Or you can hit Puma.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Uh yeah, on x at Biggest Puma Instagram, Biggest dot Puma.
And then I've opened up another email address. We're gonna
use it as a mail bag once we get into
full NFL season, College football season, spurs season come late
October around Halloween there.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Once we cross that five hundred, we're gonna be We're
gonna be interacting with y'all a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
It's gonna it just makes it easier. It just makes
it easier. And the uh, if you have any questions
for the mail bag, well solicit specific questions as we
get into the seasons, but go ahead and market.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Now.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
The email addresses the biggest Puma at gmail dot com.
It should be easy to find. So yeah, let's get
those let's get those fantasy football submissions in. I think
I've got my GM locked in. He's a he's a
kid that he says he's won multiple league championships and

(11:39):
he serves as he's the long running, long serving commissioner
of his like of his boys, his you know, tight
high school boys about Well, let's not give anything away.
I don't wanna. I don't want anyone to get any
kind of competitive advantages. Well, that's what I'm saying. That's

(12:00):
why I don't want to give away an gotz. Well's
not Zeb's not dead yet, given time, LG. Yeah, it's
a little sore already, LG. Before we get going any further,
tell the good people how they can help us out,
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Speaker 7 (12:23):
Yeah, you can do exactly what Wes did, and check
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And Wes bought us this microphone splitter that arrived already today.
We actually arrived yesterday.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Hey man, this is.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
A great example where uh we put politics aside and
still help support everybody who.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
What's wrong with a little socialist?

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Well, I think I think Wes could probably give you
a few list of reasons that he probably has something
wrong with them. But as always, we don't give a
flying rats, ask who are what you're voting for or
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Yeah, hit that subscribe button as well, because I think
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we're five approaching for sixty three, broaching.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Ship someone we've all I think our Dean Kane playlet
already cost us one sixty two. Thanks a lot, y'all.
I wish I wish I hadn't known.

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Speaker 3 (14:20):
Free damn it, firing on.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
What's the word, firing on all cylinders? There's the phrase
I'm looking for firing on all cylinders come football season.
We also learned right before the show Inside Edition debuted
in nineteen eighty nine, and the Bill O'Reilly out take
clip was from ninety three.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
We're going a long Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
If that gives you any idea of what are doing,
I can't do it our pre show the five minutes
that you see us sitting in here as we're prepping,
LG's just firing off random drops. The Bill O'Reilly one
stopped us down earlier, well as the breaking Dean kne news.
See that's what this is. Where that breaking news sounder

(15:06):
you have, LG. This is where I need like the
most random breaking news ever, like Dean kan joining Ice
would have been a great great breaking news. Yeah, we
need our own, uh our own different versions of breaking.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
I think that was gonna like, I mean, how do
you think he was gonna come off like that? A
you look like an attention wore. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
We sit here and try to hold your attention.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
But we try to give you good content. But like, man,
we know, we know your political views, and now it's
just now just seems like you're broke.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Bro Yeah, I mean one hundred thousand dollars fifty.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Throw his ideals right out the window.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
I'm just saying, if we don't get to five hundred
by football season, my principles might be cast to the
side at least for six months. Now, let's get into it,
because I don't want to get too far behind it
like we did Monday night. I had, uh, the weekend
recap for Monday was a whole lot about a whole

(16:14):
lot of nothing. And keeping on that trend, I do
have a follow up on the the pumping. I had
multiple people reach out and comment one way or the
other about pumping gas with the leaving the car on
and it went about as I expected. All of my

(16:36):
you know, the country folk that either raised me or
I was raised alongside raised with back home up in
North Texas, all of them were like, Heed, no, what
do you like, why is why was that even on
your run sheet? Like what's the what? Like what That's
no big deal. I've never turned the car off one time.
And then I had I had someone hit that biggest

(16:58):
the biggest Puma Gmail dot com email and let me
know that I indeed am an idiot for doing that
my whole life and even provided some science and and
cited examples.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Oh way, maybe science. Well, I mean.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Where vehicles have exploded.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Science. I always think because I go, like I said,
I go in, I always think someone's going to take
some all my vehicle, so I always turn it off,
you know, And I like, I was always the wary
one growing up to be like you turn off your vehicle.
But then like someone like one of my friends as
a mechanic, is like these new vehicles it would be
so you know, it would be a you'd be winning

(17:38):
the lottery before you could blow up a gas station
because they have safety checks. Now, oh, I actually plumps itself.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
It's not like we talked about Monday. And again, all
of my the country folk I was raised with every
single they weren't driving fuel injected vehicles in the nineties
like they were still driving seventies Chevy pickup's long eighty
five long bed Silver Audit.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
They just run on a different level Chevy Silverado common
sense sometimes and they shouldn't do that.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Did you all? Did you remember? I also was reminded
uh in one of the d ms I received. It's
always funny my d like when I threatened the roommate,
I was like, oh, I just got a message request,
I can't show you this one. It's always some middle
aged dude that either wants to tell me how on
point the cowboys uh segment we did was, or how

(18:33):
stupid something I said that was slightly political or slightly
you know. It's it's always there's.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
No, I'm not I'm not famous enough.

Speaker 8 (18:44):
Man.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
No it's not that, trust me. It's it's just you're
not stupid enough to say to say something that Listits
that kind of reaction. But no, it was Uh. I
was reminded in one of the d ms I got
there are still there were still two states that didn't
even allow you to pump your own gas. Do you

(19:06):
know the too off top of your head, New Jersey.
So they're the one that is, they're the only one
left now a couple of years ago. The other state
that had they had a law for seventy two years
that banned people from pumping their own gas Alabama. Nope, surprising,
surprising to me. I wouldn't have you got anything.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
LG.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Rhode Island now West Virginia, Ron Coast Oregon, Oregon.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
The hippies, the hippies how is Oregon in New Jersey
both got together and been like, yeah, we.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Like this both sides of the Oregon. Or you get
you get out east in Oregon and you start getting into.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Oh yeah, Like I remember they want to white nationalist
territory Oregon. One to go into Montana or something.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Cordelaine, Cordlaine, Idaho, right there on the other side of
the border where people, yeah, where the great minds like
Timothy mcveay learned the tricks of the trade of.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
One of our most hair old herald geniuses of our time.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
I want to go to Idaho, not Ohio. Got Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Every time I think about it, think about this old
Richard Pryor movie called Moving and it was like Boise
Idaho and they did not want to move. It's a
great movie.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
I sure keep going.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
That's where he goes, That's where they that's where Richard
Pryor's family. Oh buddy was supposed to go.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
It's a great movie. It was the I like Rotten Tomatoes.
I'm sure it was. I'm sure it was funny the
first time he saw it. I don't know. I think
they gave get Out one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah, I mean it was on the top one hunderd list.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
It's pretty solid. Yeah, New Jerry, he's the only one
left now. But yeah, it went. All the city slickers
told me like, yeah, you're an idiot. Don't do that.
That's stupid. Why would you even risk it? And all
the country folks like I can't even believe you did
a segment on it. That's that's ridiculous. So I cut
ship from both sides. Even the people that agreed with
me thought there was no reason to even talk about it.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
But and yet we're talking about it again.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, because I don't want to talk about the Rangers.
If you haven't noticed.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
I gotta do a Yankee minute when I really didn't
want to. So let's talk about them Rangers.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Okay, Well, uh, Monday was awesome. Remember that. Remember when
we were doing the lightning.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Round and came back in that game.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Big Boy Rowdy to Les hit a solo home run
in the ninth to tie it up, and then big
Boy Jake Berger appropriately named appropriate has the walk off single,
just misses the home run by a couple couple of feet.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
They played regular distance, but they had that, they had
the field, he.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Had the end. I don't know if he would have
gotten that ball. It was hit pretty sharpe and was
there two outs so it wouldn't scored now, yeah, so
it would have been a sackfly anyway, it would have
ended it. Uh yeah. And then the series stopped and
they just gave the Rangers the next two games and
it was a sweep. They swept the diamond Bugs.

Speaker 9 (22:18):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
So let's move on to col notes. We got now, dude,
last seek so.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Who pitched last night in the night night.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Before last night? It was Jake Lyder. E'valdi got lit up,
you've Aaldi got lit up. He had his worst start
of the season by the hit. So remember when I
told you like his el might go up a whole point.
It went from like one thirty five to one seven eight. Yeah,
he jumped half a point just off that one start.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
That's that's amazing, man, you're saying he had seven seven
runs in six games. Yeah, he had did well and
he's going deep in that good deep in those games.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
The number before that one was he had allowed one
run or fewer in thirteen of his last fourteen starts.
Because remember that was he was the first person to
do it since Bob Gibson, Yeah, in nineteen sixty eight.
So yeah, I mean on an absolute heater. And after
all of that, they do come back. That was their first,

(23:13):
the biggest comeback of the season, comeback from five runs
down to win that one Monday night and then last night.
What has become the issue with Jake Lighter or Jack Lighter?
His his stuff is nasty. He's really showing that he's
it's the it's the Vanderbilt stuff. It's it's Ace level.

(23:37):
It's ninety eight on the corners. It's nasty change up,
nasty curveball. He was throwing first pitch strikes for the
first three innings of the game and then lost Yeah,
lost lost touch, lost control, But it's still I mean
it stayed.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
The breaking balls weren't breaking their hanging Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
It was like, I mean, they didn't get lit up it.
He stayed in position to get the win going into
the later stages of that game. I don't know if
did you did you see any of it?

Speaker 10 (24:13):
All?

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Right? So Robert Flores, the guy they got from the
Nationals for Nathaniel Lowe, we refer to him in the
Frieze household as Bob Garcia. He hasn't earned Robert to
this season. Bob Garcia made a play where he literally
it was like he was an Army quarterback running the

(24:34):
triple option and he just flung it over his head
into the outfield trying to make a play to get
a guy out on the basis and that that was.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
That's a lot of that sounds like the Yankees very
much so.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
And you know a Texas team that committed the least
amount of errors all season in the majors. They've been
I mean it's been pitching in defense. Yeah, because when
you score the second least the amount of runs in
the entire or no, the least amount of runs. I
think they're even below the They might have when they
went on that scoring run. They might have passed the Rockies,

(25:09):
but they when Bob Garcia threw the ball into the
outfield that tied the game at two and then catl
Marte crushed one in the top of the ninth solo shot.
Diamondbacks win three to two.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
So he had a quality start.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
It was a good it was another I mean it's
this is the Rangers season in a nutshell lose, you know,
lose a game three to two or even two to one,
and you know that wasn't a save opportunity. But flash
forward to this afternoon, one thirty five, one thirty eight.
First pitch, things are going great. Rangers are up three

(25:50):
to two in the eighth inning. They get out of
a jam in the top of the eighth, immediately bottom
of the eighth, have a two out rally, get an
insurance run. They're up four to two going into the
top of the ninth inning. Bring in former astro Phil Maton,
also former pitcher who broke Joshong's hand when he hit

(26:16):
him with a pitch, who's now teammates with the Rangers.
They picked him up at the deadline. He's been great,
he's given He's only given up like one home run
in forty three and a third innings this season. His
curveball looks otherworldly. I mean, it looks like it enters
a portal and then exits across the plate. I had

(26:39):
full faith in the world. He immediately gets first two
guys to strike out. Yeah, things are looking Oh. Also
the home run last night in the ninth inning, the pitcher,
I can't I think it was Armstrong. He had an
immaculate inning going, he had strike strike, strikeout, strike strike, strikeout,

(27:04):
strike strike, and then Marte hit the solo home run
with a solo shot.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
You know, he was going with a heater trying to
get the He wasn't trying trying to go for a breaking.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Notes because he's not going to throw anything out of
the zone. Because now it's like, oh, well, I've got
an immaculate going I'm not giving this up.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
In no way did the batter know that either. Also,
one of the mind in the dirt, Buddy.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Meekly underrated hitters in baseball over the last three five years,
can tell Marte absolute you know, consistent stud in a
in an era of baseball where guys can't seem to
sustain success over a three, four or five year period.
So I was I was pretty down last night, and

(27:50):
I thought, this is this is where this is where
seasons are determined. You have a terrible loss like that
last night. You've got a day game. Today, you start
a seven game road trip. Yeah, after this game, I
think they have tomorrow off. They start the road trip

(28:11):
Friday in Toronto. Toronto, they have a room for y'all.
Got the blow Jays and then the Royals. Uh for
a seven game. I think it's let's see, it's three
three with the Blue Jays, four with the Royals. So
you gotta you gotta regroup. You got to recover quickly
today and they were doing just that. I was sitting

(28:34):
there working on the run sheet watching I got this morning.
It was Meryl Kelly, who we picked up against Zach Gallen,
former teammates.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
So your fourth is a basic your fourth picture.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, yeah, third, if we're sliding in you know grom
Evaldi or really Evaldi de Groam and now Merrill Kelly
going up against his old team who they just got
him from at the deadline, you know, Zach Gallon Diamondbacks.
Ace felt like it was going to be yeah bit yeah.

(29:07):
And to the Rangers credit, like I said, they you know,
they fought hard, kept the lead, got the insurance run
in the bottom of the eighth, so they're up four
to two going to the top of the ninth inning.
Maton gets the two outs to start the top of
the ninth and then gives up a solo shot. And

(29:30):
you think it's it's four to three. We're okay, We're okay,
dude's four to three.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
You're explaining the bullpen of the Yankees right about now, very.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Very next hitter after giving up the solo shot, he
hits him, puts him on first base. Next hitter, four
pitch walk. So the six pitches where solo home run
hit batter four straight walk or four straight balls, four
pitch walk. So now we have runners on first and second,

(30:01):
and who steps up to the plate. I could tell Marte,
oh buddy crushes one. Oh buddy a Baker's dozen rows
up in the right field stands three run shot. Score
is now six to four, Diamondbacks. And that's how it ended, dude.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
If I could tell you how many times, like me
and my buddy, Yankees fans just sit there and be like,
oh my god, if I got to see another blown,
you know, blown game in the sixth, seventh or eighth inning, dude,
or the ninth inning because we can't find a closer,
it's just it rips your heart out. Man, it's hard
to like get motivated, and like that's just me watching

(30:44):
the game. I can't even imagine playing the game.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Do you know? Do you know how many blown saves
the Yankees have this year? Off top of your head?

Speaker 3 (30:54):
I want to say I was looking at.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
This earlier because I was after the Rangers blew a save.
I wanted to look at.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
I'll do eleven, eleven or twelve.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Uh, it's more, it's more than you, it's you feel
so bad about it. Yeah, and still only thought it
was eleven or twelve. It's actually seventeen. But I don't
but the best number in baseball this year. The Astros
and Brewers are tied with the least, and that's twelve.

(31:28):
So twelve would have been the best number.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
So seventeen is not the worst.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Seventeen is closer to the to the top of the
list than it is the bottom. You're not even like
you're above the halfway mark. You're you're still in the
upper half. Let me give you the worst teams when
it comes to blown saves. Okay, Angels twenty six. I
think it's actually now twenty seven because they blew one earlier.

(31:56):
Diamondbacks yeah, twenty two.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Who these are all except for the Angels for some
reason when bot stuff act like they're going to make
the playoff.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Diamondbacks just went two for two in the last two
days on save opportunities against the Rangers. Red Sox twenty
two tied with the Diamondbacks. Imagine where the Red Sox
would be if they hadn't blown twenty two saves. And
then let's see what is this other two? Oh it
looks like it says red shoe Texas Rangers also at

(32:25):
twenty two now after today. The Angel save percent though,
is only fifty two percent because.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
They had are they are they counting these just ninth
ending alone or no, just.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Full statistical set, because I mean you could enter the
game in the seventh and get a save technically if
it falls that way.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, no, I was thinking, like straight blown save, like
you know, you bring out your closer, he blows the
save because old I know, I call him Hamilton, But
Devin william Devin Williams, he just he can't get right, man.

(33:04):
And you see him out there just not believing in
this stuff, and like he'll just be He'll look gold
in one like one game and then all of a sudden,
give up a two run shot and blow and like
you know, walk off home runs, like I've had to
watch like six of them, you know, while he's on
the mound and we keep switching him back and forth,
back and forth.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
I don't think that helps either when you're adjusting like
the bullpen when it comes to closer, or even even
if you don't want to label him your closer, the
guy you trust the most.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
We gave him fifty million dollars to be our closer.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Right, That's what I'm saying. So when you strip him
of that and then put him back in and then
pull him out like that yell, yelling, I think is
what he's either he's either your closer for the full.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Year, he's got a six, he's got like a six eer.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
That's what I'm saying. And that's straight low leverage situation.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Is like if you're from now, if you're in middle relief,
you're getting and you're not getting paid that much. You're
getting sitting down, sitting back down to the miners, you know.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Oh for sure. Yeah the uh yeah, you Yankees though,
have taken the last couple from Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah, and Bellinger just hit a home run right now,
which go Belly.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
As I said, we realize I heard the other day
Bellinger's still only twenty nine. Yeah, that's crazy to me.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Crazy man. The one is a nl MVP in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
So he turned thirty this back last month. Yeah, so
he just turned thirty.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Yeah so he I mean, he's got years left. And
but the Yankees do have the third easiest schedule on
the next on the close.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Out well, and at this point in the year that
actually means something. I mean, because you can see who
the bad.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
If we get some good momentum, you know it.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Just man, it's been popping up more, more and more again.
I just I cannot that word now well again because
I think it's I think there's there's morsels of.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
True should it shouldn't be a thing because these are professionals.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
But tell me, so, tell me why did the Rangers
American psyche? Why did the Rangers psyche when they scored?
Rangers had the momentum when they scored an insurance run
in the eight they had the momentum when.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
They and then what then? What what stopped that moment?

Speaker 2 (35:28):
A home run?

Speaker 3 (35:29):
A home run and not just kill.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
It wasn't moment Who has.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
The momentum a hit, batter, a walk. Now your momentum
is like crashing their momentum. Listening to yourself.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Right now instead of attributing actual skill and performance is
between the ears. It's not. When a guy smashes.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Baseball is all between the ears. Man Like, Like that's
why I like I love playing catcher because I would
play mind game with him, like if someone was hot
or something, and like I'd sit there, I'm be like,
I gotta screw with this guy to get him off
his game because he's so locked in, you know what
I'm saying. So it's like I'm sitting there like, hey,
that was a great ball, and I'll try to hit

(36:14):
him with some kindness and kind of like throw him
or he'll be like shut up or something like that.
Or you just wouldn't talk to me. If he didn't
talk to me, that means I'm not doing anything to him.
Then I'd sit there and shift the infield a little
bit and I'm like, hey, I feel come in a
little bit. Come in a little bit, and he kind
of like look at me, like I'm just taunting him,
trying to get him just to think about what I'm
doing and not thinking about what he should be doing.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
I'm waiting for the part where momentum becomes.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Because he's got so much momentum, I gotta kill it.
That is not that I got to kill his momentum.
That is the equivalent, and that's the equivalent of a
ref throwing a flag for the chiefs.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
And now and now we're back to this. I just
love that. I love that one of us in the
room deals in false currency and narratives that aren't supported
by data, because if both of the Unseid games, both
of us were analytical assholes like I am, it would
be terrible content Like that, dude, if you're providing a

(37:13):
service to the people here to call out my cold
and I'm not giving excuses like it is still their fault,
but like you can have play drive momentum killing play drives,
your picture can get cold and kill the whole momentum
of the whole team because of one relief picture and

(37:35):
then then that the batter's coming up.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
They're not sitting there relax in the box. Now they're
stressed out and being like god, dang it, the relief
picture k gave up three runs and now we got
to come back and say the game. So now they're
sitting there just saying I have to hit it, I
have to hit a home run. They're not just sitting
there just like I almost going to hit it, make
solid contact. I'm just gonna make solid contactcause that's all
you want to do with baseball. You want to make

(37:59):
solid content.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
The one the one inch I'll give you in this
argument is moving as it was. Uh, moving station to
station in baseball is the closest thing where like when
you've got a picture a little rocked and you're not
swinging for the fence, you're just station to station. Just

(38:23):
slap single gap doubles, just.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Keep it moving, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
But again, I don't necessarily attribute that to momentum. I
attribute that to good situational hitting, good situation, or poor pitching.
But momentum, there's not so much.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
There's a reason why not so much. Big games in
baseball hit home runs in bunches in a short time,
and then they go through droughts. And when you're going
through a drought, you're trying to switch up everything to
gain some momentum, to try to calm you down and
just get you back in your routine. And then once
you're in your routine, you're seeing the like the spoils

(39:05):
of what you're doing. You're like, all right, now you're
more comfortable. It's all about being comfortable and being locked
in and believing in yourself. And it's very easy. Again,
I agree, all of them, those negative things, none of
that is now. Tell me, tell me if you are
sitting there, all of y'all clicking, lockdown. Now we're going

(39:25):
to football. You're clicking and locking down. We can go
do this to basketball too, And you're like, man, man,
we're killing them. Blah blah blah, flag on the play whistle, foul.
Oh he had a push off. Now you're thinking about
the rest.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
When Doug Flutie threw the hell Mary, did Boston College
have momentum? When Sean Elliott hit the jumper? Did the
Spurs have.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Moment you we're taking the fact that Derek Fisher hit
the jumper. We're taking the fact that momentum is real
to momentum is always the reason I never said. It's
always the reason. I'm saying. Momentum can be changed by
outside anyway.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
The Rangers are cooked. The Rangers are officially cooked. I mean,
we're sitting looking at wild card standings. It's not it's
the Cleveland Guardians you and the Yankees have to worry about.

Speaker 10 (40:16):
Now.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Rangers are now four games behind your Yankees for that
last wild card spot. It's uh, I hate there's still
forty one games forty yeah, forty one games I think
left in the season. Yeah, no, it's forty exactly on
the nose, they're sixty they're back to five hundred, they're

(40:37):
sixty one and sixty one. There's still forty games left.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
But I've I've seen people come out of that.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
I always think it's like I always think of the Cargo,
the Carlos Gonzalez Colorado Rockies year where they won seventeen
straight to end the season.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
They went all the world here still the.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Wild card spot went all the way to who beat
them in that World Series?

Speaker 3 (41:03):
I want to say the Red Socks. I believe either
the Red Sox.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Or yeah you man, look at your look at the
baseball brains in the room. Uh swept swept by the
Red Sox seven. Yeah, that's fair. Fair. If that had
been the Mariners or Astros, I would have probably recalled
it a lot easier. Yeah, I look, forty games left.
But if they're not cooked, they're they're getting their past medium.

(41:36):
They're getting close to well done at this point. So
speaking of yeah, I forgot, it's National file Speaking of
speaking of being cooked and what goes better, what goes
paired well with Filet mignon. How about National Prosecco Day.

(41:56):
ProCon have some prosecco and water. It's like it's like
sparkling wine. It's like super sweet, sparkling white wine. It's
the kind of ship that uh, girls get ratchet drunk
on at wedding or not that I've seen that happen
in person multiple times ever.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Or during the day on a Friday, on a Saturday
or Sunday down Big Sunday.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
This is what causes the fights outside of Bentley is
on every Sunday afternoon. It's canned prosecco. Uh. I've never
been a big fill a guy either.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Like all those sparkling drinks.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Give me, give me the New York strip.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Yeah, well, the White Claws.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Sparkling rose. I can kind of f with. I don't
mind a little man, I don't mind sparking a hangover
one thousand percent it's a hangover. It's a but you're different.
Like I feel like I can drink a whole bottle
of tequila, but like half a bottle of roseb go
to your head, dude, I'm dancing at Coyote ugly on

(42:58):
the bar. It's white ye old wasted on on bubbly
bubbly wine. So yeah, celebrate accordingly. Did you got any
other Yankees notes before we get in?

Speaker 3 (43:10):
I mean they played on the rain delay right now
on Oh we got our, We got our. Warren is
a rookie, but he's been playing most of the year.
But we got Schlitzler. Care that name, but he's a.
He's a He's the one that is our Yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
There's so many jokes. I'm laughing over the three. I
just stumbled.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Give me six Slitzes.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
You got Schlitzes, you got shitty Hitler, you got There's
so so many ways you can go.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
But he's a little Garrett Cole lookalike.

Speaker 9 (43:41):
Man.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
You can get that ball up to one hundred and
he might have just given up a run here.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
And y'all don't uh you, I was looking at it earlier. Yeah,
y'all have rais and red Sox coming up on the schedule. Yeah,
next week, so that'll be, uh, that'll be.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
It's gonna be a big one, the big rivalry games.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Yeah. I feel like even though the Rays aren't you
know really, I mean, they're six and a half behind you,
they're not in the race for that wild card. But
if you're the Rays going up against the rest of
the Al East right.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
Now, they always give us trouble.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Always, and this is the time when they give trouble
when they're not in the race or on the fringes,
it's when it seems to jump back up. Well, let's
let's shift gears, get into some cow notes then before
we jump into the main Seggie the I teased, I
needed something to cheer me up after the terrible Rangers

(44:41):
game this afternoon, So LG get those clips ready, let's
do the let's do this. Stephen A on first take,
Denzel Washington on first take. First, because this was yesterday morning,
this was before Jerry gave the quote that we'll play

(45:02):
after that. So because the two of them tie in
together lockstep, it's exactly like Denzel talks about, like apparently
I didn't know this. Denzel Washington grew up massive Cowboys
fan starting back in the sixties when he was a
little kid, and he eviscerates Jerry so effectively that steven

(45:27):
a is speechless. And then later that night at the
Big Cowboys Netflix documentary premiere, which is also that's ount
know it comes out next week, but they did the
they did the blue carpet event last night to unveil
it for members of the press that are out there
in California for training camp. Yeah, getting pretty good reviews actually,

(45:52):
And I'll tell you this, you make that noise, I
think you'll like it because a lot of it focuses
like Steve Young's in it. Steve Young's talking about how like, hey, dude,
like I'm having an MVP season, but now Joe Montana's
back healthy and on the sideline and I've got all
the like. It's got a lot of it deals with
a lot of the shifting power in the league in

(46:15):
the nineties and how you know a guy would win
a Super Bowl with y'all and then he'd come win
a Super Bowl with Dallas. Yeah, it was just.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Swapping d Lineman that we gave up after in the
early nineties that basically let you guys win Charles Haley. Haley.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Yeah, he prominently.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Featured hate like when we gave up Haley, that screwed
us over. Man.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Charles Haley is also the man who was singing Happy
Birthday to Charlotte Jones at training camp a couple of
weeks ago, and while he was still miked up and
with the whole crowd listening, and she's fine too. Yeah, No,
I I think I'm gonna end up watching it because
also they apparently, you know, the Cowboys the White House

(47:06):
back in the nineties, all the whores and drugs they
were running through there. The teaser I saw they ask
different players like tell Us about the White House is like, no, man,
I can't get into that. We can't. I can't. And
then they get the playmaker in front of the camera
and they asked Michael Irvin tell Us about the White
House and he's just, oh, you wouldn't believe we actually

(47:30):
apparently apparently it's a lot like it's basically Jerry's It's
the Last Dance, but for Jerry, I mean it's Jerry
saw Jordan Last Dance Chicago Bulls documentary and said, I
want I want that.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
The Jordan got one. The captain got one.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
About the about my nineties run, but.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
This video.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
So this was Denzel yesterday morning on first take, leaving
Steven A speechless.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
I don't like what Dallas is doing.

Speaker 5 (48:05):
I know they're making a lot of money, and I'm
happy for their owner, but the fans ain't happy.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
I've been a fan. I grew up in my running
Uptown Bunny earning the Red Raiders. We were the Red
Raiders in the sixties.

Speaker 5 (48:17):
I was the running back and we used to shift.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Like the Cowboys Landry so I said.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Oh, the Cowboys like Curry.

Speaker 5 (48:26):
I've been a Cowboy fan since the sixties. He's making
it hard for me not to be a fan because
I'm still a cowboy fan. I'm still going to have
to start on the side of the hat. But he
ain't thinking about us. He's thinking about his pocket. There's
box office and there's Oscars.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Jerry been a while, he ain't been to the show.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
You wouldn't know.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Wouldn't have been to the show. He wouldn't know.

Speaker 5 (48:51):
Uh oh, I hadn't been through the show, so you
wouldn't know what it is to win. And I love
the Cowboys because I really love him.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
The way I feel the way I feel. I don't
like what Dallas is doing.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
That's so great, so good. There's box office and there's
the Oscars. Yeah, you haven't been to the show in
a while. You're winning box office, you're making Marvel movies,
you're winning box office.

Speaker 11 (49:16):
I'm glad a Cowboy fan of his caliber you ain't
winning Oscars is saying this because it is just the
most ridiculous thing that I hear from Cowboy fans. I'd
rather not go to the super Bowl or the NFC
Championship if I don't win it. And I'm like, well,

(49:37):
you're never gonna win it if you don't go.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Yeah, it's it's well, I'll tell you. It's the whole
argument of the people that would give me hell for
being like for bringing up the fact that, look, it's
they didn't trip on their own ds and win twelve
games three straight years, like that is worth something. Yeah,
that you don't. It was like, well they didn't win
in the playoffs. Yeah, no shit, dude, but guess what

(50:02):
if you lose twelve games every season, you don't even
get a chance to win in the playoffs. Like the
fact that they won the most games of any team
in the League over the last three years, excluding last
year that being out half the year. The fact that
the Chiefs were the only team that won more regular
season games than them is worth something.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
But do you think that twelve was padded by their
division at the time, minus Eagles as soon as the
Eagles got Jalen Hurts except for one year.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Two of those years were Hurts years.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
Yeah, two, Like, but the first year was not a
good one, the one after they beat us with no quarterback.
They had a sorry as year. But Washington wasn't the thing.
New York wasn't a thing until jayde Daniels of last year.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yeah, but you know, there were there were a lot
of There were multiple divisions that were worse than the
Cowboys Division, and none of those teams were winning twelve games.
So like, yes, I think you're absolutely right that it
of course, it has to do with the fact that
they got to play Daniel Jones twice a year with

(51:13):
the Giants, and they got to play you know, Washington
before Jaden Daniels twice a Warrior whoever. Yeah, yeah, the
ghost of RG three. I totally agree, But I also
you don't. You just don't win double digit games three
straight years if you're a bad team.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
And I get that, and they have they had playmakers,
like Zeke was a playmaker. He might he does have.
Who did they compare him to old buddy from Denver
running back Terrell Terrell Davis? Yes, and he has Terrell
Davis numbers, if not better. And Terrell Davis isn't he

(51:54):
a Hall of Famer?

Speaker 2 (51:54):
I think he finally got in, didn't he? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (51:56):
So I think Zeke's going to be a Hall of
Famer man. I don't I don't know about the yeah,
I mean because the off field issues.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
But like well and Terrell Davis got I mean he's Yeah,
he got in in twenty seventeen. He's the Broncos all
time leading rusher and he has h doesn't he have
the Super Bowl win too? Two times to Super Bowl win?
I think that that helped a long way.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Okay, But I mean Zeke was a Zeke was a problem.
You know, he was like no one know he was
a one to one on fantasy boards for many years.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
In more ways than one, Zeke was a problem. Just
asked the women on Lower Greenville around Saint Patti's Day.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Oh buddy, no, I look, everybody was showing nipples.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
I agree with you. Like to hear Denzel get like
it's a like it's a you know, a coffee shop
poetry reading. The box office he's got you wouldn't know
he's gonna talk like this the show and you wouldn't know.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
I'm the whole time.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
When when Denzel is like and we were shifting, He's like, oh, Landry,
He's like yeah, dude, like yes, like we know, yes,
like the Landrys just because Steve and A just couldn't help.
But and you also got a little Spike Lee and
they're playing hype Man as well, which was great because
they were promoting the new movie they have coming out.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Yeah, that one looks good.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Yeah. I mean if Spike Lee, if it's a Spike
Lee joint, I'm yeah, it's worth It's worth my time,
worth your time as well. The So that was yesterday morning.
On first take. This clip of Jerry is from the
Blue Carpet the Red Carpet out in front before they
all went in last night to watch a h early

(53:49):
episode of the new documentary that's coming out, and it's
gonna be episodes. Yeah, I think there. I think there's
like seven or eight. I don't. Maybe ten God, but
the I mean, you can pick out the one that's
just about the Niners and I'm just playing. But tell
me if this is not word for word exactly what

(54:12):
Denzel was complaining about.

Speaker 9 (54:14):
Well, I do believe if we're not being looked at,
then I'll do my part to get us looked at.
The beautiful thing for networks or if you will, and
streaming company streaming companies, is that, if you will, the

(54:36):
NFL is a three hundred and sixty five day year
interest factory. A lot of programming. You have to spend
as much to make it, to promote it as you
do to make it. The Cowboys are soap opera three
hundred and sixty five.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
I'll start it, and.

Speaker 9 (54:55):
So it is. It's Oh, it's wonderful to have the
great athletes, have the great players. But there's something more there.
There's sizzle, there's emotions, and if you will, there's controversy.
That controversy is good stuff in terms of keeping in
having people's attention.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Hey, soap opera three hundred and sixty five days a year.
That is the general manager, the general manager of an
NFL team talking about how he doesn't I.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Don't know how mad I would be, dude, I'd be like,
you are killing us.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
That's why it's not even fun to make fun of
cowboy fans. Like I've had a lot of my buddies
that for years, like even even as recently as like
five six years ago, were still giving it to me
as as brutally as they had been for the last
twenty five years. But over the last five years they've
all kind of been like, I'm sorry, little buddy, like that,

(55:53):
that's just got a suck, which which kind of hurts
even more. Kind of it's kind of even worse when
even your rivals are like, yeah, you know, my Eagles
finally we finally won a couple of Super Bowls. We've
got two in seventy years. But yeah, you know, it
feels like your last thirty years were worse than our

(56:14):
first sixty five before we got our first ones. Man, no,
it's he said the quiet part out loud. I mean
he literally. I would like I tiptoed everything Denzel was
talking about.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
I would like, during all twelve game runs and you'll
all win, and y'all be all excited and up in
my face. My Niners had and like we'd have like
a down year, then we'd have like a good year.
And you gotta believe me when I was like up
in the old rupaub if anybody familiar with that, it's
a big area and that thing was standing room only

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during the Niners.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Bunch of dank fans out there too, or no, that's
the one next to its elephant.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Yeah, hey man, he get through the door.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
He like.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
I'm sitting there cheering on and Dak's putting together a
drive and I'm starting to like, I'm like, oh oh,
and then he then he rushes the ball up and.

Speaker 12 (57:16):
I was like, what an idiot? And like again everybody
was quiet. Further proof momentum and I was no, or making.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
A stupid play exists like moment if he anyway, anyway,
I was like, you have one of the best kickers
in the game right now, you need you know, well
they needed a touchdown, but I was like, yeah, they
had to have the touch you know, they had two checkdowns.
We gave him two checkdowns. But like I was like,
would you rather have one at the twenty or would

(57:49):
you rather you're send there eating off and have one
at the ten? But you might not make the clock,
and it's like the obvious answer is you got to
make sure you have time on the clock because there's
no point and yeah, you kind of need time on
the clock to school being the only Niners fan in there.
When I'm saying only Niners fan, the only Niners fan

(58:10):
in there, celebrating with my flag and my jert On
in all, my big chain, my debo chain, I was like,
I love real quick right after that, because I was
getting looked at, like I was like, man, I hope
they won't find out which one's my truck, you know.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
I kind of feel like, I mean, I'm sure obviously
there's still there are still your diehards that will you know,
get their lights knocked out on the third deck of
Jerry World after the Saints embarrassed the Cowboys. That was
a great video. Meanwhile, the video last year, I'm pretty
sure it was the Saints game when the Saints embarrassed them.

(58:49):
And then there was the fight on the triple deck
and while the boy is getting his ass handed to
him by a Saints fan, his girlfriend is right next
to him just hurling everywhere all over the the you
know tile floor up there and in the cheap seats.
That's the Cowboys season and another. I'm sure, of course
there are still people that are so emotionally invested they

(59:15):
actually would mess with you like that.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
But I kind of again, I think they're more than
emotionally invested there. They are financially invested. Well, okay, now
that's the season tickets. They have all the gear, they
have the man Cave, they have the Jerts, they got
the you know, the.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Only thing dumber than being a Cleveland Guardian pitcher and
throwing a ball into the upper deck on your first
pitch of the game to make sure it's a ball
so all your buddies win prop bets. The only thing
dumber than that is betting a single penny on anything
Cowboys related. That that's seven and a half over under

(59:53):
that we talked about. It's tantalizing, you know why, because
Vegas knows you will throw your money at it. Yeah,
that's why they keep at seven and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
It's my favorite time of the year. I always tell
people I was, like, my favorite time of the year.
When it's the fourth quarter of a Cowboys game and
they're up.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Again, I would argue, I think the Cowboys are the
prime example of why momentum is not not the most
important thing, the thing specifically, you know Jerry. What happens
when Jerry treats the team like a soaprop a soap
opera every day of the year, that what happens. I

(01:00:32):
think Jerry is the ultimate killer of anything.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
You don't think they're sitting on the sideline thinking what
is Jerry gonna say about my play if I mess up?

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
And yeah, they're not think but that's not what momentum means.
But we'll proceed regardless.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Because you won't make the play.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
You just gotta admit that you're you're wrong about this,
because we're going to go in circles and there's going
to be play of examples that will continue to show
you the narrative is just that, a false narrative. The well,
the year the Cowboys win a Super Bowl, when I'm
Jerry's age fifty years from now, uh, that will be

(01:01:15):
the day that the Cowboys find the day Steven will
be dead by then. Well, okay, And that's the other
funny thing I heard. Man. I can't remember what podcast
it was. It might have been it might have been
The Dumb Zone up in h up in Dallas, a
couple of former ticket guys that do it. Also a

(01:01:37):
guy that taught me that momentum doesn't exist. Shout out
Dan mcdell the I no, stay strong, Dan, You've raised
a generation of nihilists that followed the data. No. They
were talking about how the you know, the assumption with
Jerry Jones is as soon as he is out of

(01:01:57):
the picture that nothing will change because Steven will assume control.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
Do you think thousand nothing will change?

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
So they they use they used the example of like
right now with uh, it's it's actually it's a pretty
perfect example beyond just the like Logan Roy's succession example
that you can pull from, but the real life example,
like right now the Trumpster He's got dj T and

(01:02:31):
Eric and Ivanka, Jerry's got Steven, Jerry Junior and Charlotte.
As soon as the head of those families is out,
everyone just assumes that it's going to be run the
same way. But Steven is not Jerry Jones, Donald Jay,
Donald Trump Junior or Eric are not the big don

(01:02:53):
They aren't the same people. They they're gonna try to
do a caricature of that, but you have to still,
you have to give some credit to the fact that
one of those guys as President of the United States
for the second time, and the other one of those
guys owns the most valuable France sports franchise in the
entire world.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Steven didn't do that, didn't do that twelve billion.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
So the Sportico list you're talking about, I've got that
gonna get to the It's interesting though, they're still the
most valuable. They're up to twelve point eight billion, but
they didn't go up in value as much as the
team's right behind them. So, for example, Cowboys went up

(01:03:37):
twenty four percent, and they are the most valuable. Second
most valuable team, LA Rams went up thirty four percent.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
I think that's just because I'm New York.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Giants up thirty four percent, who are third. Your Niners
went up more than the Cowboys did in value. Your
Niners are fifth. Eagles went up more than the Cowboys
did in value, and then you start.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
That's his property value as well, like the coastal regions.
I think, I honestly not with the Cowboys, but I'm
saying that's why there's more of a percentage jump because they.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Are possibly I think when it comes like any of
these Sportico or Forbes does their list a couple times
a year. It feels like anytime these come out, like
even let's take this number, for example, Dallas Cowboys, they're
Sportico's valuation is twelve point eight billion. If the Cowboys
went on them, if Jerry said, you know what, I'm

(01:04:34):
not leaving it to my kids, I'm putting them on
the market, it's going to the highest bidder, they wouldn't.
They wouldn't sell for a penny under twenty billion dollars. Yeah,
because the self price versus the valuation, like the only
being valued at twelve point eight, they would sell for
twenty two point eight probably, you know what I'm saying.

(01:04:55):
So like I don't. I don't put a whole lot
of stock in these number anyway. I mean, just the
fact that the fact that the Cowboys are more valuable
than you know, Man United or Real or some of
the other teams in the world. That's more interesting to
me than how they compare to the Rams or the
Giants or any Did you see who the bottom of

(01:05:17):
the list was. That was kind of interesting. Actually, Athletics, Well,
it's just NFL team, It's just the NFL for Sporticoh,
not the Browns. The Browns are surprising that Browns are
twenty third. Yeah, Browns are ahead of the Ravens, Lions.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Bills, Arizona.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Arizona's twenty ninth. They're fourth to last, Chargers now because
they moved to LA.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Because they moved to LA.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
But they're not that much. They're twenty first. Yeah, but
the LA bombs Jacksonville. Jacksonville second to last.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
And then we will go with.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
It's kind of surprising to me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
Caroline.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Uh, Carolina's actually a little higher. They're twenty seventh, so
your your bottom five. Indianapolis, Indianapolis is your fifth to last.
It goes uh, Indy, Arizona, New Orleans, Jacksonville, Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Oh yeah, the Bengal is going to bangle, of course.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
But I figured even with Joe Burrow and like just
having Burrow should have bumped them ahead of.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
Jacksonville quarterback and receiver in the game.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Like I would think I would think that would help.
I was, I was.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
I've always heard that they've been cheap spinners and yeah,
the brown Yeah, look what they're doing with Hendrickson and
then what should we call it?

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
No, you know what's funny and the rookie. They are
Shamar Stewart, the A and M kid. They who also
hit Burrow in practice today and started a fight between
him and the between the D line and Oli. So
the Bengals are routinely one of the only teams that
spend less cash annually than the Dallas Cowboys. The Cowboys

(01:07:10):
are worth all this money. The Jones family is worth
all this money, and they are routinely bottom five and
actual cash spent because they don't spend the money they're coaching.
Look at their coaching staff. Schottenheimer's making less than half
of what Mike McCarthy was making. Just assuming because we

(01:07:31):
don't know the actual numbers, but.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Just no way the.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Realistically it's probably not much more than three mil.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Yeah, I mean it's gonna be all performances salary.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
An elite he doesn't even get performance and answers an
elite NFL head coach is getting paid ten to twelve
million dollars. And the Cowboys, the most valuable franchise in
the world, hired a guy with zero head coaching experience
so they could lowball in.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
And I guess he is Jerry paying himself as a
GM is he can get cash in and check out
the GM.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Sure, probably, but also, you know what Jerry's not paying
for also an elite offensive play caller. Yeah, because it's shoddy. Oh,
I can hire the head coach, make him call the plays,
and then I don't have to spend money that we
can just hire Clayton Adams a stand in, fill in

(01:08:27):
prop offensive coordinator. It's all, dude, it's it's it's so so.
I mean, it goes back to Jerry hiring Jason garrett
Is offensive coordinator before he hired Wade as the head coach,
because he it's it's same as it ever was, As
David Byrne would say, the only other cole note I

(01:08:48):
had real quick. The Bill Barnwell had a really good
article came out yesterday about how basically everything we've been saying,
how there are there's thirty two teams in the NFL,
and only one of them conducts contract extensions in the

(01:09:09):
manner that the Cowboys do. No other team across the
league does their business like Dallas. And he went down
and broke up or broke down exactly how the years
and process went for the DAK extension, the CD extension

(01:09:30):
last year and now the Micah extension. And basically what
he did is he said, you know, I took uh,
you know guys that are on you know, fifth year
options that that were first round picks, like CD and
Micah were. Obviously Dak fourth round pick, is different. But
he just compared that to like Kirk Cousins situation and

(01:09:52):
when he got his money versus when the Cowboys gave
Dak his money. So he went and he looked at,
you know, on average, this is the way the rest
of the league handles when they have a stud first
round pick. This is how they handle these, This is
exactly this is, this is when they offer the extension.

(01:10:15):
This is on average when those extensions get signed. Blah
blah blah, and this is so he was using that
to determine how Dallas could have done things differently. If
they just conducted their business like every other team in
the league, they would have saved themselves fifty million dollars

(01:10:35):
on the Dak deal. If they had done it like God,
they would have saved themselves fourteen million on the CD deal,
which doesn't sound like a lot, but when you think
about the receiver position, so.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Where's the money, Like if they don't if they're their
last suspending money.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
And it's looking like they could have saved at least
twenty million on the Micah deal if they had done it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
So they're just not paying the other players, those supporting
players anything.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
No, they're all look at the trades they made for
veterans this year, or look at their fight William Jonte Williams,
Miles Sanders vet minimums. Basically, I think they have incentives
that bump them up a million, million and a half.
When's what's the last massive free agent the Cowboys have signed?
Brandon Carr ten years ago? What's the last early extension

(01:11:24):
the Cowboys have done? Zeke? And that was because he
forced their hand and Jerry loved Zeke because he sold
more jerseys than the quarterback did, which made Jerry more money.
Before that, who was the you know it's funny too,
Barnwell talked about in the article does that was a
shit show and and Dez left, you know, not on

(01:11:47):
a bad note, but made things as difficult as possible
on the way out. The players that the Cowboys do
give early extensions to offensive linemen, guys that don't sell
guys because if Tyrone Smith is holding out, or Travis
Frederick is holding out, or Zach Martin is Like Zach
Martin held out two years ago, no one talked about it, Yeah,

(01:12:09):
because all everyone talked about was CD. No one good.
It's Zach Martin. Like, yes, he's an instant Hall of Famer,
he's an All Pro every year. He's the best guard
in the league. But it's Zach Martin. ESPN's not covering
Tyrone Smith, Travis Frederick, Zach Martin holdout the same way
they're covering dak CD or Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
There's no prop bed on Zach Martin.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
There's no soap opera with offensive linemen. Jerry wants soap operas.
Y yeah, so that's why he does it. So all together,
Barnwell estimated that Jerry has cost the Cowboys eighty four
million conservatively over the three deals for dak CD and
assuming eventually they get the mic A deal done, So yeah,

(01:12:54):
good times and oh yeah, and also he announced he
beat stage four cancer in twenty ten, so.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Hey, buddy, could have a lot of people were probably
twenty ten.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
That was fifteen years ago. I was about to move
to San Antonio. They were still doing training camp in
San Antonio. It was a long time ago.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
I wondered that's when Stevens stepped in. When did Johnny Manziel.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
That was later that well, ironically enough, that was Zach
Martin's draft year and Jerry didn't want the future Hall
of Fame offensive lineman. Yeah, because that wouldn't make him,
It would make his team a ship ton better. Yeah,
but he doesn't care about that. He never has. Zach
Martin's not gonna sell jerseys, Like, even if Johnny Manziel
is only here for two three years, he's gonna sell

(01:13:43):
way more jerseys than Zach Martin will in his career.
He's not looking at all pros or Player of the
Decade list, He's looking at bottom line. And I think
I agree with Denzel on that he's, uh, he's not
doing it for you and I. He's doing it for and.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
I don't think he's making it. I don't think he's
making it a secret either.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
No, and that's it. It does seem like he started
to get a little more loose lipped with it, even
talking like throughout these Mica negotiations where he's clearly just
dragging it out for no other reason than publicity. Yeah,
and it's really hard to stomach that as a quote

(01:14:25):
unquote fan of the organization that he owns and runs
as general manager.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
Womp wompom.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
So let's talk about some other uplifting news. Our local
mayor had a death threat against her today, Oh buddy,
and it wasn't based on again talking about DMS. I got.
I might. I might have upset some of my more
Trinity educated progressive friends that didn't didn't agree with my

(01:14:57):
desired use of city funds. Now, it was a weird
one the I saw the headline. Kins had the headline
a man arrested for allegedly making threats against s a mayor,
citing citing Project Marvel, and my first thought was like, okay,
we've got you know, we've got some kind of action

(01:15:19):
or like actual actions that would show a true threat.
The dude just posted something in a group text that
then someone else in the group text posted on X
and was like, oh, watch out for this guy. And
then someone someone reported it, and eventually the man name

(01:15:43):
what was his name, well, who cares about his name?
And some idiot that's off his rocker ends up getting
arrested for threatening he had literally he had just flat
out said like.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
Someone someone needs to go.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
I'm worried about YouTube. I don't want I think.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
Someone needs to take her out to Christy Nolmes's past yure.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Yeah he uh he immediately he got charged with it
was a weird charge. It wasn't like it was obstruction
slash retaliation after he intentionally slash knowingly threatened the mayor's life.
A very very odd charge.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
That used to just be terroristic threats.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
See. That's why I'm saying it feels like they kind
of gave him something a little little extra because I
think it was actually I think it was a little
softer because it was like, well, it's just it's an
social media post. We're not England. We're not patrolling people's Yeah,
I mean you can't.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
You can't say, like making terroristic threats people are out,
Like I think that's still just like a class that
he missed me there.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Marcos Renee all Vera was the guy's name that that
got popped.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
Well you're a famous now, buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Yeah, he's already out on Bill another thing that people
one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars Bill. He's already
posted Jesus.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
So No, that's that's even that's heavier than terroristic threats. Okay, yeah,
because like if you like, I know maybe of some
people that that I know of that go out of
the bar and say I'm gonna come back and shoot
up everybody, that's a terroristic threat and they don't get
one hundred thousand dollars bail, you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Know, Okay, so probably, I mean, obviously this is a
worse elected official, but also like individual specifically targeting one
person versus like a bar.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
I think I think I think they've made like a
new law about like targeting the officials because of all
the violence that's actually becoming more common in our day
and age.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
It reminded me a lot of the right after the
MAVs traded, Luca and Nico came out and was saying, like,
you know, I'm getting my life is in danger. Every
time I step out of my house, I'm receiving death.
And it turned out it was from some fan group
forum post where people were just like, like, I hope
he gets hit by a bus. It's like I'm getting death.

(01:18:19):
They're like, you know, we also we had a fire
Nico guy at the range. That was the highlight of
the Ranger game last night. Just one guy belting it
out NonStop, to the point where the announcers were like,
you couldn't, you couldn't have, you couldn't or not because
he's right by a microphone. But no. When I saw
that headline, that was my first thought of like, Okay,

(01:18:41):
well now we're now we're funneling sympathy for all of
the backlash. You're getting to find one guy make but
again not to be taken lightly. That is certainly not
the outcome you hoped for. But where we left off
on Monday, we had just started playing the audio and

(01:19:02):
I realized we were so far behind the clock. The
audio is from Kins from Jeff Garcia. It's a cut
up of the mayor giving a press conference. I believe
this was from Monday afternoon, where she had called for
the strategic pause to the process. She specifically wanted to

(01:19:27):
see a further detailed economic report of exactly you know,
down to dollars and cents INTUD. She the one that
had been provided to the council was done by a
group that has twenty percent equity in the Spurs, so

(01:19:48):
not a purely unbiased one, but also one that has
been trusted in other markets based off of the level
of detail that they originally get and I saw I
can't remember who had it posted earlier, but basically the
original report the council received was like twenty two pages.

(01:20:10):
The one that the mayor is referencing she wants to
see like the one in Philadelphia where they that was
like a seventy three page report. So we're talking just
fifty more pages of line by line detail. And this
is where I think we talked to it. We started
to kind of get into it Monday, where there are

(01:20:34):
obvious there are obvious concerns when a organization is asking
for millions, hundreds of millions of dollars from city funding
and the or other organization that they tasked with giving
you the breakdown of it also has equity in the

(01:20:56):
organization that wants the money.

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
Yeah, So the.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Side of people that immediately attack the mayor and say, well,
she's just doing everything she can to hold this up,
I do think you can give some not sympathy, but
some understanding to what she's asking for. Where it's like, no,
we're you told me it was going to be you know,

(01:21:21):
in between three hundred and five hundred million dollars that
you need I would like to know, is that number
three hundred and one million. Is that number four hundred
and ninety nine million, Yeah, because that's still it's a
big gap. And so I understand where she's coming from
in that sense, But I also understand the people that
are pointing out the mayor. The recent mayoral race that

(01:21:46):
put her in office was the lowest voting turnout in forever.
The direct organizations that ended up getting her in office,
that ended up driving the vote, the people that actually
did vote in the race out of that very low

(01:22:08):
voter turnout were the more progressive liberal organizations that drove
the vote better than any conservative counterpart. So there is
absolute truth to the people that are saying she's doing
this to show the people that put her in office

(01:22:29):
that she is still prioritizing what they want. And that
is the like we were saying, the more, instead of
spending the money on an arena, spend it on affordable
housing or any other you know, social equity programs that
that the city desperately could use needs. But then the

(01:22:50):
other side of that is where I was saying, it's
not an either or decision. The money needs and a
lot of the money coming for the overarching project is
from the state, which can give money to municipalities cities

(01:23:11):
for stadiums and convention centers. So this money we're talking
about is.

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
Not coming out of San Antonio's tax paying like pocket.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
Correct, and it also can't just be used for something else.
So it's a bit fraudulent to say we're not gonna
spend this money on a stadium, but instead we're gonna
spend this money on affordable housing. Well, no, it's not
the same money.

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
Yeah, they're not gonna give you the money.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
It's not the same fund exactly. The state don't give
affordable housing. Come on, now, you see what they're doing
in Austin. Yeah, come by. So that's where all of
that being said. It's a very confusing issue because on
top of all of that, our city is run. She
is just a figurehead. She is purely a representation of

(01:24:00):
the city, not the power broker that is running the city.
So when you I think a lot of people when
they think of mayor, they think of it like a
governor or even a president. You know, it's not that whatsoever.
She Our city is run by a city council that

(01:24:22):
works alongside a city manager. City manager Eric Walsh City Council.
Seven of ten of the current City council members support
proceeding further. Walsh also agrees with them, So I actually
I think it's six out of ten. He makes it
seven out of the eleven. So out of the eleven
people that actually control what happens in this city, the

(01:24:45):
majority of them support moving forward on Project Marvel.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
Yeah. The mayor, she's more of like a conduit to.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
To the people that elected her.

Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
To the people and try to be like, hey, I'm
sitting here trying to bring up your points and stuff
like that on her and convince the city council correct exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
Even on her campaign materials she specifically mentioned we shouldn't
be giving money to sports teams to build new stadiums.
We should be funding affordable housing projects, social welfare prora
like all of everything that we're talking about. So again,
she's playing the politics of letting the people know, like,

(01:25:30):
I know you put me in this office, I'm giving you,
you know, like basically just I'm giving you a shout out.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
I'm trying to stick it to the man, you know,
all the.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
While knowing she has no power to do any of that,
which is why I think, well, first of all, I mean,
if you're sending a death thread over any of this,
you're an idiot to begin with. You're worse than the
guy that bets the Cowboys over this season. But on
the other side of it, if you're doing it purely

(01:26:05):
for superficial political reasons, when you know all along you
actually have no power to do a damn thing to
stop it, that also is not a good look. As
we talked about Monday, if you're picking fights with the
most identifiable business, like who's more identifiable, CHIB or the Spurs,

(01:26:25):
It's the Spurs. If you go to New Mexico, they
don't know what CHIB is, but they know what the
Spurs are. If you go to Oregon, if you go
to New.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
Jersey, people know more about CHIB than you think. I
agent it's voted the number one.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Because it's so great down here eight when I was
growing up. I moved here in twenty eleven. The first
HB I ever saw the furthest north I ever saw
one with Stevenville, Texas. Really, CHIB just now is getting
into Dallas, Fort Worths, Kroger Albertson's, Brookshire's. Yeah, a bunch
of crappy or if you're from Texas, it's united like

(01:27:02):
h B is still and called hey, I love me
some Piggy Wiggly. It was Piggley Wiggly and Stephenville too
before for HGB put them out of business. But I
say all of that because her the optics of picking
a fight with the Spurs when you actually have no
power in the decision making, that's where people start to

(01:27:25):
feel like you're not actually standing on anything. You're just
appeasing the people that put you in office, and you're
serving your providing little service to what they want to hear,
while knowing like you're not going to be able to
get that for these people, but you're gonna tell them
I'm fighting for it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
The itemize, just itemize a list of what you the
more the money is going to go, what kind of
overage we can expect, Yeah, you know, and.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Why in the overage Spurs said they will cover everything
over They said, city, we need you to figure out
a way to up to five hundred million dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
And how much is the how much is Texas the
state of Texas going to cover.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
So that is involved in the man. I can't remember that.
I was reading the article earlier. It's there's a specific
program that allows state money to be used for stadiums
and convention centers exclusively. And that's the other thing this project. Mark.
We're only talking about the one point five billion allocated
for the new Spurs Arena. We're not talking about the

(01:28:31):
land bridge they want to build over thirty seven to
connect to the Alamo Dome. We're not talking about the
renovations to the Alamo Dome where they want to make
it look like Miami Dolphins hard Rock Stadium. We're not
talking all together. It's like four and a half billion dollars,
the a new hotel in Hemisphere, all the you know

(01:28:53):
parking girl, all that kind of stuff. We're just arguing
over the one point the original first phase one point
five billion for the stadium. Yeah, so that's where I
would love I might try to get someone, well, hell,
one of the one of my way more educated Trinity

(01:29:13):
friends that understand.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
The se what to see what that's itemized?

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
Yeah, because I feel like right now, like I'm hitting
like like I'm not at T ball level, but I'm
not yet to like full fast pitch, like I'm at
like coach pitch of trying to understand it all and
how you know how.

Speaker 3 (01:29:32):
It acause I would like to see like which money's
coming in, like how much is allocated from the Texas
to hear how much is it gonna with the hotel
tax gonna increase, and how much is it actually gonna
come from our pockets, which is what they'll probably put into,
Uh what was it?

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
Property taxes?

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
You know? And I think the main people that get
mad about property taxes because that's how schools get their
money because we don't have a state tax. We have
property taxes.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
Right, which you actually end up paying more taxes than
a lot of blue states because we don't have income tax,
but you're taxed out the watt wazoo. That's an old
man phrase.

Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
Tax property tax and if you live outside of San
Antonio is three point five. So it's like that's how much.
That's what I want to see that's coming down.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
And that's where I agree with her of like, if
you're asking for more details, that's great, that's yes, I agree,
but that sounds.

Speaker 3 (01:30:35):
Like that can be done pretty freaking quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
And also simultaneously to the negotiations that are ongoing with
the Spurs Over said details if she if she doesn't
feel like what is the purpose of calling for a pause?

Speaker 3 (01:30:55):
If she can come out and say, I like, how
long would it take you to give me these projections?
You know and like have them like basically whenever you're
sitting there in negotiation or you're trying to get something
done like or you're trying to get money, especially with
money out so on, I'm like, you give me the

(01:31:16):
date so whenever, so if you.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
Don't hit that day, set the expectation.

Speaker 3 (01:31:20):
I'm not at fault. You're a fault. You know what
I'm saying totally, So give me the date of when
you can give me a rough estimate I get, and
give me the slush fund of if we go over it,
and that you say you're already going to pay for
so just keep that in mind. I still want to
see what, like what the overage is for, so I

(01:31:41):
can maybe have some sympathy for you, sure you know,
in case it does go over.

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
Or I can better understand what went over. So whatever
we build next, so maybe that all of that new road,
all of that new city transformation that's taking place by
Market Square, maybe we won't carry that project out so poorly.
Because we saw overages here and we can learn from
our mistake. There's an l and every lesson totally totally agree,

(01:32:07):
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
And I'm like, like, how long, like two weeks, three weeks.
I'll do a stoppage for three weeks because I want
to get this done, and the faster I can see
these things, I will. I will continue to do it.
But then while I un unpause it, I'm gonna have
an independent person look over your books, go look o

(01:32:29):
over these numbers and that that doesn't seem unreasonable. It's
like because and then back it up by saying, I
want this to happen. I want our city to grow,
and I want our city to be one of the
premier cities to come visit, you know, and be we
are already a tourist destination. We're now we're going to
be up there with dinner. If you've ever been to Denver,

(01:32:52):
Saint Louis, all these other premier destinations and whatnot, Like
there's there's so much art, there's so much do you.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
Know st Once hosted the Olympics.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
I wut it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
It was like nineteen oh six or nineteen oh two
or something.

Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
Yeah, I thought they would probably be earlier than that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
But anyway, yea world class destinations scene.

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
No, I know, like well like world like the Midwest
they had the Spaceship and Men in Black and.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
The world nineteen oh four Olympics. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:33:29):
So I mean when you go to all these cities
that are destination cities, they're beautiful downtown and as much
as I love my San Antonio and stuff, we're we're
not hitting the mark well.

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
And it so even you know, like when when we
when I moved here in twenty eleven, we immediately moved downtown. Yeah,
and the transformation of downtown being exclusively for tourists, verse
is now a thriving local residence.

Speaker 3 (01:34:04):
Yeah, the pearl, all the apartment.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
Downtown housing has increased seven eight times eightfold since I
moved here in twenty eleven. It's no longer the downtown
of twenty years ago. It now is a local down
It's it's not yet, but it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
Is going from outside in right, and now we need
to get the inside of downtown.

Speaker 2 (01:34:28):
See. And that's where I think a lot of people
from what I've talking to people and you know, kind
of gauging reading posts, reading what people are putting out online.
It feels like a lot of people kind of view
the mayor as that parent that like when you ask, hey,
can I go to can I go to Billy's house? Well,

(01:34:51):
hold on, I need you to mow the lawn. Okay,
all right, I'll go mow the lawn. All right, right,
Oh wait, no, no, no, I need you to bag the
leaves now that you've mowed. Well, okay, y'all, I'll let
me bag the leaves. Oh well, now I need you
to clean your room. And it's just something that's one
thing then the next thing that's a to prolong to

(01:35:11):
drag it outstead. It gave me a list and one
thousand percent. And also by the time you do all
the things, it's like, oh it's time for bed. Sorry
you didn't get a chance to go to your friend's house.
That's I think a lot of people are feeling.

Speaker 3 (01:35:23):
Does you just gaslight a little billy?

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
Just trying just anything you can grab onto, like a
strategic pause for what purpose besides.

Speaker 3 (01:35:32):
I mean Devil's advocate. I get to the point of
these these uh, these big time hedge fund people, like
they get over on the little working man because there's
gonna be so many small businesses that small contracting companies, construction,
you know, roadwork, what what have you, that are going

(01:35:54):
to be involved in this. It's not just going to
be city employees.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
And it won't be city at all.

Speaker 3 (01:35:58):
Yeah, do with these and this is you know, like
we're like not even Trump, but like this is everybody.
They sit there and give them a proposal and then
they sit there and be like, we're not going to
pay you that, We'll pay you this.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
That's why people hate unions because a union job, all
of a sudden, they hold them and it gets parsed
out to somebody's nephew or uncle or cousin, and.

Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
Then the union, the union. That's that's the corrupt union.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
The union, that's what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:36:27):
That's hold holding the fact that accountable like nope, you
said this thing ideal, we're getting this.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
And traditionally that's what they have done. That's why wages
are what they are in America in union jobs exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:36:42):
But there's the reason why.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
There's there's also season two of The Wire.

Speaker 3 (01:36:45):
There's also but that's like season two of The Wire.
What was he trying to do? He was just trying
to get jobs.

Speaker 2 (01:36:52):
Well, and he was also trying to prevent his kid
from getting a murder charge.

Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
Anyway, so let's burn through some of this audio before
we get too much into it, because I don't think
I think we've talked about most of it, so I
don't think we'll need to stop it start it a
whole lot. We still will, but let's see how far
we can get into it here.

Speaker 3 (01:37:15):
LG.

Speaker 10 (01:37:18):
What they did is they the summary findings of the
Spurs consultant, and so I think that is a little
bit that's inadequate because what they did is say, hey,
that number that looks about right. But as you and
I both know, it's not just about the number in.

Speaker 6 (01:37:32):
It looking right.

Speaker 10 (01:37:33):
We've got to make sure the methodology also makes sense.
We've got to be very clear about the assumptions. You
lay it out in that Philadelphia economic report. They lay
out their assumptions, they lay out their methodology, they lay
out how it's going to impact, you know, the city's fund,
et cetera. So that's the level of due diligence that
our community also deserves.

Speaker 6 (01:37:53):
We're continuing to work with the Spurs.

Speaker 10 (01:37:55):
To get some more fidelity on how they how are
the guarantees going.

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
Is a union to see you.

Speaker 10 (01:38:01):
You know, ideally a cost for the for the for
the for the arena. I think some were surprised, certainly
as I heard, I think some were surprised that, you know,
an arena. There is no such thing as an arena
less than.

Speaker 6 (01:38:15):
A billion dollars, is it?

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
Real? Quick? There'll do.

Speaker 6 (01:38:17):
Folks were surprised to learn that number.

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
So when she says folks were surprised to learn that number,
it's because she's talked. She's she's talking to the people
that voted for and they don't really and they don't
realize and they don't want to pay that much. Which
again that's a whole separate There's.

Speaker 3 (01:38:31):
No new arena now that won't cost a billion plus dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
No, unless it's a minor league arena. Yeah, anyway, firearm her.

Speaker 10 (01:38:39):
And so if in fact, the built the arena can
only you know, it is only possible between one point
three and one point five billion.

Speaker 6 (01:38:49):
Dollars, Well, then this is simple math.

Speaker 10 (01:38:51):
All of a sudden, that range of what the city
contributes is not three fifty to five hundred. If it's
a one point three billion, you take away the five
hundred from the spurs, you take away the three eleven
from the county. You're at four eighty nine, right, Mini.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
Which is what we were talking.

Speaker 10 (01:39:05):
So that's that's we you know again, nailing down a
cost for the for the arena is really important because
it drives everything else. I think the other thing that
was I think surprising for many as well is that,
you know, they the spurs and the letter that they provided.
If you all remember it was five hundred million dollar contribution.
It was five hundred million in guaranteed development, and then

(01:39:27):
the sixty million in the CBA, and then less than
a week and a half later this the guaranteed the
guarantees rather were no longer five hundred million, they were
nine hundred million and good.

Speaker 6 (01:39:43):
But we need to understand, you know, if and this is.

Speaker 10 (01:39:46):
Why I asked during that during that session, if you
knew the number was going to be one point four
versus you know, one billion, why why not put that
in the letter?

Speaker 6 (01:39:56):
And Bobby Betta said, oversight it. On our part, four hundred.

Speaker 10 (01:40:00):
Million dollars is one tenth of our city's budget. We
don't make four hundred million dollar oversights. If an independent
economic analysis corroborates the numbers that the that the spurs
have provided, their consultant has provided, and that CSCSL has
provided in other funds, then they corroborates it and we can,
I think, have the confidence to move forward. However, if

(01:40:22):
it's different, right, then we should also understand that and
we need to We need those things laid out. What
were your assumptions? What are your data sources?

Speaker 9 (01:40:31):
Right?

Speaker 10 (01:40:32):
Help us, help us understand how you got to that number,
because it's not just the number. We really need to
interrogate the assumptions that are being made there to ensure
that we're all on board.

Speaker 6 (01:40:41):
Again, we have the time.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
Pause it real quick right there. Ology is because I
think she kind of gives away the game right there
to ensure that we're all on board, suggesting that they're
not all on board as currently well construct.

Speaker 3 (01:40:56):
You got for city council members that basically aren't on board. Yeah, Like,
and I think she wants the concession of everyone, which.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
You're never getting that though, And that's that's where I
you know, obviously what she's.

Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
Asking for is not the world, but her delivery of it.
Like I've said, is she needs to put a more
she needs to start playing politics, and she needs to
start putting more of a like I want this to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
It doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:41:25):
I don't let me get this to get through, but like,
give me the numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
I don't think she actually is or intending for it
to sound this way, but it sounds like she It
kind of sounds like she's playing hardball with the spurs. Yeah,
and I think again, I tend to agree with you.
What she's asking for is not the moon, it's not
the world.

Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
It's just very number reasonable. When you and then when
you also make the oversight of a four hundred million
dollar oversight and you're like, that is, as she say,
one tenth of the budget for city.

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
That's a huge number. I'm like, where does that money
come from?

Speaker 3 (01:42:03):
What else oversight?

Speaker 2 (01:42:04):
You got?

Speaker 10 (01:42:04):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:42:04):
Yeah, that's you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
Have you seen these road construction projects like talk about
oversize exactly?

Speaker 3 (01:42:12):
It's like, come on, man.

Speaker 2 (01:42:13):
Like so so so far, so good.

Speaker 3 (01:42:16):
But she needs to play politics where she needs to
continue to pump into the head of everybody. I want
this to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
How many times does she say that?

Speaker 3 (01:42:28):
I heard once?

Speaker 2 (01:42:29):
Not one time. That's that's my point. What she's asking
for is not crazy, but she's also not letting the
people of San Antonio know like, hey, look, guys, I
want this for us. This is going to be a
massive cornerstone of our future as a city. I want
this to work. I want these numbers to be in

(01:42:49):
our favor. I want these details I'm asking for to
end up being the thing that sways my constituents, the
people that voted for me, to be like, oh wait,
that's not such a bad deal. Like I want this work.

Speaker 3 (01:43:02):
You got to take your flight.

Speaker 2 (01:43:03):
You haven't heard your say that one time.

Speaker 3 (01:43:05):
You're far left and you're far right, and be like,
this is a centric city, and you know we all
come together, even though we may be on two totally
different ends of it. We're not going to listen to
the extremist, you know, even though, as you pointed out,
since the low poll numbers, mostly extremists were the ones
who voted.

Speaker 2 (01:43:25):
Anytime there's low voter turnout decides.

Speaker 3 (01:43:27):
But if she wants to get re elected, she's gonna
realize there's not gonna be a low turnout next next
mayor or race.

Speaker 2 (01:43:35):
I would I would get I would conservatively guess that
the next mayoral race already will be way more heated,
way more turnout than this one was. Let's uh, let's
skip to that second cut, LG. Because the second one
starts with if I remember correctly, the second cut starts

(01:43:56):
with something that may my ears perk up like a
ferret whatever. Because I'm just listening to this as I'm
making and then I heard it, I was like, the hell.

Speaker 10 (01:44:09):
Actually, let me let me back up to Some of
this is informed by two things that I heard quite
a bit of on the trail, right, which is one,
San Antonio is the seventh largest city in the country.
We need to start acting like it.

Speaker 9 (01:44:21):
One.

Speaker 10 (01:44:22):
Two, we need to address the persistent poverty in our community.
I can't think of two better reasons to take a
strategic pause on this until we have all of the
data and can really lay out for our community the
costs the benefits of not only the potential new spurs arena,

(01:44:46):
but this overall endeavor. As we've talked about, this is
a generational investment. We have an opportunity to use it
to address our generational inequities, but we have to take
advantage of that opportunity.

Speaker 9 (01:45:00):
There.

Speaker 2 (01:45:01):
That's where That's where I'm talking about where she's framing
it as if it's one or the other. We can't
take care of our generational poverty or our generational social
inequity if we're building this arena. And I haven't heard
a solid answer yet, I ask why, Yeah, because these
funds don't seem to be coming from the same place.

(01:45:22):
And also talking to the spurs, what's stopping you from
simultaneously coming up with solutions to set generational poverty?

Speaker 3 (01:45:32):
And why not sit there and be like why don't like, yes,
I want to take care of the poverty and stuff,
but those are like that's not really local. You know,
that's going to be governor, you know that, Like we
need to start thinking of state you know, state level

(01:45:53):
things because honestly, we need to have a state tax
in Texas with all the people moving in, like in
my opinion, because.

Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
Yeah, but then the free agents wouldn't sign here because
they're taking the right It doesn't what doesn't happen. But
like the fact is, professional athletes understand, I'm paying the
same amount in taxes there as I am anywhere else
exactly because the.

Speaker 3 (01:46:15):
Because the property taxes, and the thing is the billionaires,
the millionaires who have these large ranches that our grandfather
did in and you know family, what was it. Uh,
well they re enacted.

Speaker 2 (01:46:28):
Oh the the yeah, yeah, yeah, the tax the.

Speaker 3 (01:46:32):
Pass it down to here, yeah Mexican.

Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
Yeah, give me a second, keep going.

Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
So basically, all those they know how to get around them,
they've already got swayed, they've got they got position in politics.
And it's the middle class that really just gets raked
over the coals with these taxes, with our property taxes,
because we have to dispute our property taxes every year.
When you own a home, like I have to dispute

(01:46:58):
it every year, or all of a sudden, my house
would be worth five hundred and fifty thousand dollars and
I'm like, it ain't worth five hundred and fifty thousand.
I'm not gonna make five hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
I put it on the market, you know what I'm saying.
So it's like the fact that we got to jump
through those hoops.

Speaker 2 (01:47:16):
A state tax, a state yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:47:17):
A state tax. And it's just like I would push
that plain politics. I would push that povertly in like
inequity and push it, kick the can down to the
governor and be like y'all need to start. You know,
it's good that you're getting into local politics, and I'm

(01:47:39):
gonna sit here and get you the transparency that you want,
which shouldn't be that hard and shouldn't be that difficult
to do because I want this to happen. But we
can't address everything with Project Marvel because this is only
one ordeal for our city. And if you want that
other stuff, we have to take a communal communality cumulative

(01:48:06):
cumulative of money from all over the state and that
includes these triple like quad six farms with old what
you call it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
I just don't. I think asking the state to take
any involvement in that is like asking Roberty Lee to
stop fighting for the South. You know, it's not like
it's just not happening. It's not.

Speaker 3 (01:48:29):
But that's where really like because that's where they get
state grants, sure, you know, and the grants is what
they really consit there.

Speaker 2 (01:48:35):
Look at our local state, look at Speaking of the Pearl.
The city wanted to put bike lanes in, They build
the bike lanes, they get the money from the state.
Then the state says, like whoa, no, you can't just
get rid of a lane on a state road and
put a bicycle lane in tear that up. So then
we have to tear it up and then the state
comes in and rebuild, like the battle between state and local,

(01:48:57):
especially in Texas where for the most part, like Hell,
even fort Worth, I think fort Worth might have swung
back red, but two election cycles ago they were blue.
All of the major cities are blue. Are blue. The
biggest major city that's red in Texas is like Lubbock, Amarillo, Tyler. Yeah, Waco,

(01:49:18):
Waco is a good one, but the majority of the
hubs are are on an island to find for their
citizens social welfare aspects of their citizens.

Speaker 3 (01:49:27):
If we can get our mayor on our podcast, she.

Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
Is I've seen multiple I saw the sports star guys,
I saw blue collar sports like Nope, if if she
was really smart, should go on Rogan that how much time?
I think there's only I think there's only about a

(01:49:51):
man or so left. Let's close out that last clip
before we get to the lightning round. If we still have.

Speaker 10 (01:49:58):
Eden because again, and the people of San Antonio will
not vote on whether or not they have a spur
a new Spurs arena. They are entrusting the city council
to make sure that we do our due diligence in
aspects of this, and frankly also help them understand what
it means for other things, what does this mean.

Speaker 6 (01:50:18):
For the upcoming bond project?

Speaker 2 (01:50:20):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:50:20):
What does this mean in general for downtown?

Speaker 10 (01:50:24):
And how of we understood that that these projects are
in fact the highest and best value for the community.

Speaker 6 (01:50:30):
So and you look, the good thing is we have
the time to do this. You know. The county, you know.

Speaker 10 (01:50:37):
Is limited in their ability to call for an election
like as the one that they did.

Speaker 6 (01:50:41):
They can only do that once a year.

Speaker 10 (01:50:42):
We are not limited in that in that same way,
and I understand, you know, the county has done their
calculus and three hundred and eleven is what they feel
comfortable putting forward. As a reminder, they do not have
a community benefits agreement. They did not negotiate one of those.
So we are in a different spot because we are
looking at this not only in the context of the

(01:51:03):
deal for itself, how the financing for the arena as
well though as the other projects that are dependent on
how much money, for example, may be allotted from the PFC.

Speaker 2 (01:51:16):
Okay, so that's where again we listen to it. Three
and a half almost four minutes of audio from her,
and not one time was there any personal or hope
attached to the project. It was all very all right, well,
well no more once we get the details. These details

(01:51:37):
aren't good enough and.

Speaker 3 (01:51:39):
You're not given you're not giving us hope that that
a common ground will be found.

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
Or that you want it to be found. And I
think that is the most accurate critics because there's been
a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:51:50):
Criticisms start playing.

Speaker 2 (01:51:52):
There's been a lot of criticism thrown her way that
is entirely unnecessary, doesn't help the cause, and is purely
the Oh is what you get when you vote for
asoshi or for a commedi assoshi, Soshi, we're calling them
soshi now, like the Russian city sochi yo. This is
what you get when you vote for a liberal like uhh,

(01:52:14):
It's like okay, but dude, do you like the spurs?
Like you don't want? Like what does that benefit anybody?

Speaker 3 (01:52:22):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:52:22):
I get it you. It's easy points to attack her,
but I think the a legitimate criticism is.

Speaker 3 (01:52:32):
I haven't.

Speaker 2 (01:52:32):
Haven't let us know that you actually want it to happen.

Speaker 3 (01:52:35):
She has some merit to what she's saying, completely agree,
and she needs just to put the political spin of
I wanted to go through. I really want this far
At city to move into the next generation, you know,
And that's what she's got to do. And then they'll
get everybody more excited. And then it might put pressure

(01:52:56):
on these billionaires because they're getting what they want right now. Sure,
the longer they hold out, the more levered. This is
just like the Michael Parson thing. The longer Jerry doesn't
pay him, Mike is gonna get his way. And there's
long the longer.

Speaker 2 (01:53:10):
We don't don's right, Michael, Michael Myerson get it right.

Speaker 3 (01:53:14):
Yeah, As long as long as we hold out and
we don't let these this stadium get built, the builder,
the the billionaires are gonna get their way more.

Speaker 2 (01:53:24):
And this is where like I'm not I'm not raising
the alarmist bells of like oh, if we don't do this,
the spurs are moving, or if this doesn't get done
this week, they're gone, like none, none of that and none.

Speaker 3 (01:53:35):
And she's again, something needs to happen this quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:53:38):
We have the time, like she's saying, the county votes
in November. November fourth is when the county votes. You
could probably how long does it take to do an economic.

Speaker 3 (01:53:47):
Yeah, just a break this is just a rough breakdown.

Speaker 2 (01:53:49):
We don't need Well, she she already got the rough
break down and that wasn't enough. That's why we're well,
but she got.

Speaker 3 (01:53:55):
When she got the rough breakdown, there was a four
hundred million dollar.

Speaker 2 (01:53:58):
Discrepancy that that wasn't necessarily from the city's portion of it.
That was from the portion of From my understanding was
that was that bumped the city's expected to pay up
closer to the they were told three hundred to five hundred. Yeah,
and that bumped the city up to four eighty nine

(01:54:21):
towards that five hundred. So she's asking, well, that's a
big variance. You know. Again, it's nothing that's going to
be decided by the end of the week, and it's
nothing that has to be decided by the end of
the week.

Speaker 3 (01:54:33):
She just needs to put it more positive.

Speaker 2 (01:54:34):
But there's I think there's a way to tamp the
flames of it because like most things, like her wanting
to make it either black or white. Well, it's either
the stadium, or it's it's affordable housing, or the other
people that say it's either.

Speaker 3 (01:54:48):
Or leave that to the white house crab.

Speaker 2 (01:54:50):
The people that either it's either built the stadium or
the Spurs go to Austin or Vegas or Vancouver.

Speaker 3 (01:54:56):
I can't agree with the Democrat, I can't agree with
the republicing whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (01:55:00):
Like like everything in life, it we want to break it
down to black and white because that's what makes it
easier for us to understand. It is great as f.

Speaker 3 (01:55:12):
And that's what Santano has always been about.

Speaker 2 (01:55:14):
I'm trying not to drop the F bomb on this episode.
I've done so. I've dropped like three f's, which I
haven't said since junior high. LG hit me with the
lightning around. Let's get out of here. Have you seen this?

Speaker 3 (01:55:28):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:55:28):
The John Mattiere Venmo charges the Oklahoma transfer quarterback. No, okay,
all right, I'm glad I didn't. I was hoping this
one wouldn't have hit your radio. At your radio, your radar.
John Mattiu kid actually from a little elm DFW kid
played at the same high school as Cole Beasley, not

(01:55:48):
at the same time, but he was out. He's been
at Washington State the last couple of years. He just
he was the biggest transfer, the biggest kid available in
the portal signs with Oklahoma goes to ou. Well, you know,
of course it might it might or might not have
been someone on a ut message board that found it.

(01:56:14):
Turns out John Matteer's Venmo charges are all public, and
he had a charge that was labeled just sports gambling
and it was paid to a teammate from Washington. But
it's again like, do you know how many times like
when when I send somebody, uh, like when I sent

(01:56:35):
last week when I paid a buddy for lunch that
we had had, I replied with what I said, something
like w NBA game attire and it was, you know,
a picture of an eggplant. It was like, you know, stupid,
Like the whole point of a Venmo caption when it's
public is to make it funny. Yeah public, no, god no, no,

(01:56:57):
don't be looking in my pocket. See but hey, someone's
digging through his it's a whole lot of nothing. Oh
you said they'll investigate, but I think.

Speaker 3 (01:57:04):
Clearly, Yeah, I thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:57:05):
Joking on teammates.

Speaker 3 (01:57:07):
Yeah, all right, hit me ol G all right, I
got another side by side.

Speaker 2 (01:57:14):
Career you like these, like, yeah, I just want the numbers.

Speaker 3 (01:57:18):
So we got tarot owens and one of the arguably
the greatest prospect in the world, like in wide receiver
Randy Moss. Oh, okay, all right, so career games played
to eighteen to nineteen advantage Taro owens.

Speaker 2 (01:57:36):
Okay, but that at least gives us pretty much even
ground to compare the rest of the game. It is
a great one. Receiving touchdowns, let me get Let me
guess who has more t O. No, okay, you can.
That was overtaken because Tom Brady was and the record
breaking years.

Speaker 3 (01:57:54):
But it's close three advantage Moss.

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
Oh, that's really close. Yeah, that's one game with Brady
versus one game with Romo.

Speaker 3 (01:58:03):
Yeah, receiving yards or Donovan. I guess who's Who's.

Speaker 2 (01:58:08):
That's gotta be t O's yards.

Speaker 3 (01:58:10):
It's fifteen to nine two he was a Moss and
then fifteen nine three four for t O. Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:58:17):
Still strikingly similar though.

Speaker 3 (01:58:19):
Yeah, and career receptions. Who you got?

Speaker 2 (01:58:24):
I bet t O again?

Speaker 3 (01:58:25):
Just number Too, and he's got him by almost one hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:58:29):
I bet a lot because big play.

Speaker 3 (01:58:32):
Nine eighty two versus one thousand and seventy eight. So
put some on some Too's name.

Speaker 2 (01:58:40):
Look, I don't think the quarterback as quarterback broke his
leg and played in the Super Bowl less than a
month later. It was going to be the MVP.

Speaker 3 (01:58:49):
He was going to be the MVP if Donovan mad
didn't sit there and like run the slowest two minute
drill I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:58:56):
Also, remember that time that too did set ups in
his front yard his agent Drew Rose or what was it, yeah, Rosenhouse.

Speaker 3 (01:59:04):
Yeah, that's how you got precious.

Speaker 2 (01:59:08):
I did love me some doo dumping the popcorn in
the helmet and me lg On this day in nineteen
ninety seven, the debut of a little show called south Park.
Oh no new episode tonight, taking another week off that Yeah,

(01:59:31):
they'll be back next week. I remember. I mean, y'all obviously.

Speaker 3 (01:59:35):
YouTube episode YouTube.

Speaker 2 (01:59:39):
Ace kids might not have a similar memory of South
Park premiering in ninety seven. I was eleven years old
and at summer church camp they showed us clips from
the first season of south Park to show us how
bad it was, how it's from the devil. It was.
It was like one of them was a dog. I

(02:00:00):
still I remember it vividly, and I remember walking out
of that room and telling all my friends that's the
first time I've ever seen south Park. We've got to
get our hands on this. We've got to see more.

Speaker 3 (02:00:11):
I know this was a big topic for LG's house
that he had just the other day where they didn't
show it on what should we call it? The Plus
but you get tagged Christy. No, I'm just going in
like a school shooting taken out all the pugs store.
Oh buddy, it's all.

Speaker 2 (02:00:31):
It's always it's always funny and until the until the
bear eats your face, you know, like it's like the
Grizzly Bear. Man, Like I thought that South Park.

Speaker 3 (02:00:41):
Was funny all right, supposedly allegedly because I'm in fact
check this.

Speaker 2 (02:00:49):
Oh great.

Speaker 3 (02:00:50):
Angel Reese was reportedly enraged after two K refused her
request to set her rating at ninety nine overall.

Speaker 2 (02:00:58):
Okay, you're getting your it and ball saged. What is wait?
W oh? I forget they're in two K.

Speaker 3 (02:01:06):
Now.

Speaker 2 (02:01:07):
At first I was thinking they're like, there's a w
n B a game now not by itself? Yeah, I
do we know. Oh, she's a ninety overall with a
defensive anchor build. I bet her rebounding is a ninety nine.
Hit me, lg uh Man, We're not going to spend
a lot of time. This whole aquarium San Antonio Aquarium

(02:01:29):
octopus attack.

Speaker 3 (02:01:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:01:31):
Uh. First of all, why do we have a poisonous octopus?

Speaker 9 (02:01:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:01:37):
I think mildly and not like yeah there you go, yeah,
general not poison Yeah, mildly. Why do we have that
in the petting portion of the aquarium. Second of all,
why do we even have that aquarium? It's such a
rinky dink operation. Hold on. Thirdly, why Peter, what the

(02:01:58):
hell are you doing? They had three protesters out there
yesterday and the aquarium turned the sprinklers on on and
called Leon Valley Police and we're like, get these people
out of here, and for once I will defend the
Leon Valley Police, the worst police department in our entire
fair birg. They told the aquarium, They're like, dude, they're

(02:02:19):
on the sidewalk like this is this is believe it
or not, this is still America. Like they're free to
do that.

Speaker 3 (02:02:26):
We are a protestation.

Speaker 2 (02:02:29):
They're free to talk about how crappy your operation is.

Speaker 7 (02:02:32):
And fourth, it's the same owners as the Austin Aquarium,
which is just as equally crappy and just as equally controversial.

Speaker 2 (02:02:40):
It's so funny and they also don't do that dump
that don't besmirch my good friends up the snake farm.
Uh they it's so.

Speaker 3 (02:02:52):
Funny to be which is a prostitute.

Speaker 2 (02:02:54):
Every time it used to be. Now you got to
know the password?

Speaker 3 (02:02:59):
Do you have changed? Twenty allegedly allegedly allegedly?

Speaker 2 (02:03:03):
Now it's so funny. Every time I drive home on
thirty seven to eighty one, there's the giant Texas State
Aquarium billboard, and I just think, like, you are so
much better off driving to port or to Corpus. Oh yeah,
then you are driving for Leon Valley, like you get
such a bet if you which I love. I mean,

(02:03:25):
I'm I'm a sucker for reptile houses, aquariums, anything like that.
And that's Uh, that one's pretty depressing. You got anything
else for you?

Speaker 3 (02:03:34):
Yeah? I got one more? Hit me, LG. We got
what was it? Raider Nation? Uh? What was it?

Speaker 9 (02:03:45):
Got?

Speaker 2 (02:03:45):
Johnny Damon at Old Timers Day? Throw that up there
for HIMLG. Throw that up there, just to shoot his
wheels off. Look at your boy, Johnny Damon, Look at.

Speaker 3 (02:03:53):
Him puffed up he is. Oh boy, he never won
one with us. He's a Red Sox.

Speaker 2 (02:03:59):
The the pinstripes don't look as good on.

Speaker 3 (02:04:02):
All old that's like this a who's was my big picture?
That one through the no hitter Wells wells man. That's
when he like start hitting the wing.

Speaker 2 (02:04:14):
Marianna Rivera really blow his he did during I heard
someone say that during old timers day.

Speaker 3 (02:04:22):
The badat Supreme Court has ruled in favor of John
Gruden with his appeal against NFL. This means Groen will
now have will get discovery in his day in court
alleging that the commissioner Robert Dale in the NFL improperly,
improperly leaked his emails leading to the fires of uh
of him.

Speaker 2 (02:04:43):
Of course they did, of course they did. And also
I cannot wait for that discovery. It's going to be
potentially I think the NFL will do everything they can.
Now I don't know. I haven't been following the case
at this point close enough enough to know if they
can settle, if they can pay Gruden enough, or if

(02:05:04):
he's on a full blown vendetta where no you know,
no paycheck, no price would convince him to to settle
the lawsuit against him or anything.

Speaker 3 (02:05:14):
But because he probably knows, like through the rumor meal
he probably knows how much Kaepernick got.

Speaker 2 (02:05:18):
What I've heard, that is what I've heard.

Speaker 3 (02:05:20):
Also, I think I think it like a half a billy, right.

Speaker 2 (02:05:25):
Let's hope, Let's hope this discovery comes out because I
think those are some of the things we might hear.
It sounds like the case probably is going to end
up in front of the actual Supreme Court. We'll see what,
we'll see what. I don't know, man. I will say
this the most surprising Supreme Court oral arguments I've heard

(02:05:48):
over the last ten year sports sports related because it
was none other than Brett Cavanaugh who told the n
cuba's lawyer like, Okay, explain this to me. Uh, these
athletes are over the age of eighteen, so they are
adult Americans, correct, Yes, okay. And you're saying they make

(02:06:11):
millions of dollars for the organizations they play for. Yes, yep.
And they have work requirements that require them to be
at the office at the facility at certain times, regiment
and obligations. Right, Okay, So what you're describing is a job,
and what you're describing by not paying them is equivalent

(02:06:35):
to slavery. And that was like that or no, he
called it indentured servitude, I think is what he said. No,
I think he said in dentured servitude because it was unpaid,
unpaid work. You're working, you're making them work for free.

Speaker 3 (02:06:54):
So and it's also takes a put like a toll
on your body.

Speaker 2 (02:06:57):
Sometimes the sometimes the Supreme Court can surprise. Antonio Scalia
used to always have some surprising rulings as well. I
miss old SIA hit me LG. Let's get out of
here on this so one more time. Tell the good
people how they can sign up for the fantasy football League.

Speaker 3 (02:07:14):
You can hit me on my email the Capitan two
one o at gmail dot com.

Speaker 2 (02:07:19):
Do you have your DMS open?

Speaker 3 (02:07:22):
Oh yeah, I see, you can take the happy.

Speaker 2 (02:07:24):
Checked request okay, because there were a couple. I apologize, Greg,
I apologie. There were a couple that set in my request,
yeah box because I don't use social enough and I
hadn't I hadn't checked at all.

Speaker 3 (02:07:39):
So the Decapiton two and O at gmail dot com.
T H E C A p I t A N
two O one O at gmail dot com. Or you
can hit me on Instagram at the Captains shared two
and oh hit me in the DM if it doesn't
look like spam. I will open it.

Speaker 2 (02:07:56):
Yeah, and if you forget, you can also say it
to the biggest Puma at Gmail dot com. I promise
I will pass it along to cap. So I mentioned,
oh man, read that read that note right above? What
does that say about AOL.

Speaker 3 (02:08:15):
Internet service?

Speaker 2 (02:08:17):
It had to get cut. We didn't have time. How
did LG know to play that? Look at this? Sometimes
the synergy is real.

Speaker 3 (02:08:25):
The yeah, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (02:08:30):
I just thought. I was like, oh, yes, it's because
I sent it to y'all. Y'all are looking at the ship. Yeah, damn.
So I brought up the fantasy football obviously to let
people know where to sign up, but this clip came
to mind. We played this back in a past life.
But very few things tickle me more than when OJ

(02:08:55):
was just doing random Twitter videos every day from the
country club or that's how we got that drup Hey
Twitter world, oh ja here and then he would just
complain about something for like sixty to ninety seconds, and
then he'd sign off like okay, well, okay, which one

(02:09:16):
was harder, rushing for two thousand yards or cutting two
heads off? So this is OJ on the not allegedly
two thousand yards allegedly, we don't have footage. No, of course,
this is OJ at his fantasy football draft one year.
Have you ever seen this before?

Speaker 3 (02:09:36):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:09:36):
Oh, I love it all right? He has possibly the
most unfortunate draft pick in fantasy football history. Hit it
Twitter video? Now, yeah, Andrew Love?

Speaker 3 (02:09:54):
What did I do to you? You could have retired
an hour and a half store before I in my
fantasy poets.

Speaker 2 (02:10:01):
I mean, what do I do?

Speaker 3 (02:10:02):
Baby? Why would you do this to me?

Speaker 2 (02:10:06):
Come out of retirement. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, oh,
that was his other everything.

Speaker 8 (02:10:12):
Was Oh my god, we still have it too. I'm
just saying, and then it'd be like, all right, I
gotta go. He drafts Andrew Luck and an hour before
Andrew Luck announced his retirement. And tell me there's the
worst draft pick in fantasy football history than that?

Speaker 3 (02:10:30):
Oh, buddy, Christian McCaffrey going one of one last year.

Speaker 2 (02:10:34):
He still didn't he ten games later, that's ten more
than Andrew.

Speaker 3 (02:10:40):
Trust me, you ask everybody. They are they were piaced,
you know, because they they put him on. They didn't
put him on that eight day. They didn't tell him
he's gonna be gone for eight nine weeks they said
he was day to day.

Speaker 2 (02:10:52):
Did Plexico shoot his leg with wearing the sweatpants to
the club? Was that in season or was that the
off season so he would have been off draft boards.
I was trying to think of some other unfortunate events
that Rice proceeded. It was off season two. It feels
like a lot of.

Speaker 3 (02:11:12):
These things, these things come out off season.

Speaker 2 (02:11:16):
It's funny how that works. Well, it's I mean, it's
like the old Neil Brennan, the guy who co created
Chappelle Show with Chappelle, he had a great stand up
where he was talking about, like, look, we really need
to cut football players some slack. What we asked them
to do nine months of the year is insane. So
they're doing this, they're they're doing football, doing football, doing football.

(02:11:37):
Slap their girlfriend. Oh my god, that's not football. Throw
it down. Oh my god, that's not football either. I
did football at the wrong time. I'm so sorry. I'm
so sorry. It's a good bit. That's where you get like,
that's where you draw the line. LG get us out
of here. We have found caps turning as red as

(02:11:58):
that shirt. Oh that's where we draw the lit Well.

Speaker 3 (02:12:02):
I just didn't think it was that fun.

Speaker 2 (02:12:04):
I'm just saying. I'm just saying it's time for us
to go, so uh hit me up on x if
you want to get a hold of the program at
Biggest Puma on Instagram, Biggest dot Puma. Give it to
him one more time.

Speaker 3 (02:12:16):
Captain the Captain's Chair two one oh at on Instagram
and then the Capy Tan two one oh at gmail
dot com.

Speaker 2 (02:12:24):
LG, when's the next stream?

Speaker 3 (02:12:26):
Saturday?

Speaker 9 (02:12:27):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:12:27):
Taking a little time now till Saturday. Well, y'all tap
into that LG's house. Tap in, we'll see if we
get a who won the Internet?

Speaker 3 (02:12:38):
It's all on the roommate.

Speaker 2 (02:12:39):
Don't hold your breath. I put it all on her.
But anyway, until we talk again, y'all be good. Peace.
Rangers are good.

Speaker 9 (02:12:48):
Kids.

Speaker 3 (02:12:49):
What do we say about drugs? Yeah,

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