The Weekend That Broke the Run Sheet: Game 7 Deflation, KD Finds a New Home, & Tales in Arm Wrestling

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Li da bean Lie da bean Lie da be da ban.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
The sound of a random Sacramento Kings fan chanting light
the beam means we are back. It's still a very
unstable bit, but I like it, so we're sticking with it.
We're back here in the sports Cave with biggest Puma.
I am your host, Sam Freeze. Where we're about to need.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
A new countdown.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Boys, we are two days away from the NBA Draft.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
I still thought it was today.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
I was sitting there like looking through my like the
guy to record it, and I'm just like, where the
f is this? Man? I'm like, come on, man, Yeah,
don't tell me they put it on Prime or something
like that.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
It would be it would be appropriate that they start
putting it on Peacock or something.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
No, the you're not wrong.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
It's one of the it's the shortest distance ever or
the shortest time between the Finals ending and the draft starting.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah, but if they had done it.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Tonight, that wouldn't have even given the Hillbillies in Oklahoma
time to have a parade.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
I think they're doing that tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
So of course, sitting here Monday night, we will be
talking about the Game seven of the NBA Finals in
the main segment as well as we finally I was
a little I was a little late on the timeline,
but we finally got a KD trade, which I think
we definitely need to talk about because that might have
well not might have. I mean, that was a bullet

(01:31):
dodged when you look at everything Houston gave up for it.
But that voice you hear already, of course you know
by now is the cap joining me in the room
in the other room, the always hesitation, the do we
have a solid connection?

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Put away the sex swing, the.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Producer extraordinaire and noted sex swing owner LG.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Where did that come there is?

Speaker 1 (02:01):
I don't know. It's a I've seen it.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
You't got no sex.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I'd like to see like you and I have as
big as we are.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
I don't think I have a ground, a structurally strong ceiling.

Speaker 5 (02:18):
You definitely need to make sure you tie into some
studs or something there, like two studs.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
So to speak.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, you're.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Heard, That's that's all the captain needs.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
The punisher is coming.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, I don't think I.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Would the man, the diddy punisher, that's that might have been.
He might have been the great, the best, witness we've
had in the case.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
It was like, uh, sir, can you tell us your
name that you went by?

Speaker 6 (02:51):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yes, it was the Punisher.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
The mask he wore, the black leather mask, like just
all of it. It's one of those deals where you know, like,
I have no familiarity with the lifestyle of the Punisher,
but you always see it in like uh in a
in a you know, eyes white shut or some you
see it in movies and you're like, oh, okay, that's what
the rich do.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Sure, somewhere some real is what the rich do is
because he flew them out like first class. He got
the royal treatment. Somewhere there is a rich person that
was like I sat next to the Punisher and they didn't.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Realize that without and now they're and they're they're like,
they're like that toe way by that that the toe
way back he had up there nothing but whips and
straps and nine tails and all sorts of baby oil
and little bottles. I was about to say, definitely baby oil.
I uh were already four minutes and in the run
sheet is shut. But shout out to the Punisher.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
LG.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Tell the good people how they can help support the show.

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Here.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
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Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yes, yeah, win in doubt, do both. That's always the well,
that's CAP's motto.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
As we just heard with the with the punisher.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Now, I guess you live, you live one life, sir.

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Speaker 5 (04:33):
Yeah, we're creeping on three seventy five, four hundred. I
think maybe like Captain should shave his beard when we
hit four hundred.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Maybe don't want to see this baby face.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
When's the last time, Oh man, when's the last time
you were full clear, clean face.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
COVID in my and my wife gave me the longest
stare and I was like, yep, never again. You know
that's funny.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
It's funny because I feel like most people during COVID
did the opposite of that.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
I didn't know, because I think that's where I think
that's where my mustache only look started was COVID.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
COVID was sticking to the beard.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Oh, the one of the COVID stories. You were watching
Fauci press conferences every day. Ship it sticks on your
beard and you ran into the bathroom like a power
liberal just started shaving everything. It's spectacular. Yeah, we do
need to we need some incentives. Especially four hundred is good,

(05:39):
but I hear five hundred is one hundred times better.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
Than Yeah, five hundreds of better number to celebrate, that's
for sure.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
You might get the beard shave, you might get the
Brazilian wax. We don't know.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
I could go. I could just go Michael Jordan mustache
Hitler Cane's commercial.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Where is Hitler coming to play there?

Speaker 3 (05:58):
What are what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (06:00):
That was the Jordans Jesus cozy just speaking of Hitler facts.
Did you know he copied segment new segment.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
He copied the mustache because he was a huge fan
of Charlie Chaplin. Yeah, who also I believe at one
point was wasn't he tried for being a socialist in America?

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, like most actors were at one point or another.
It isn't American history so fun? Especially was It was
a hell of a weekend for American that.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Got the that's out, that's doged.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, we can.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
We can cut that now.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
If you don't have a YouTube account, it's again absolutely
free and it really would go a long way to
helping us out here. As we get to five hundred,
we'll work on maybe no babyface cap or no wants
to see that, no NJ mustaches for me, but we'll
come up with something good as we get closer to
five hundred. I mentioned, of course main segment tonight. We

(07:00):
got to talk the end of the NBA season, the
game seven, that seven minutes were amazing, and then the
rest of it could have been, could have been great,
the ultimately ultimate deflating way to end a season.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
We got NBA to talk about.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
We got just a weekend sports recap to talk about.
Because I believe it or not, they're actually it was
a good sports.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Weekend, Dan, you had like eight different things going on.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, it feels like, uh, you know, if if the
NBA wasn't your thing, and obviously not football because out
of season, but I don't know they are they still
doing that Spring Football League? Is it still in season? Oh?

Speaker 4 (07:44):
Yeah? The San Antonio Brahmas.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, I think they've I think they've already had their
like eight eight championship.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, I think that's already over too.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
But besides that, we had a lot of baseball, a
lot of soccer, a lot of golf.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
So we'll get into all of that throughout the program.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
But as we've become accustomed to doing here, become accustomed
to doing here on Monday nights, we got to start
with a little weekend recap where ended up having a
pretty full weekend. It's one of those where I didn't
necessarily expect to be busy, but every day ended up
having something going on.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Half of the things I forgot about that.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Then it was the roommate telling me, hey, well, telling
me at midnight thirty on Saturday, like, hey remember we
got to be somewhere Sunday at ten am.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
I'm like, whoa you had? We had all day to
remind me.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, on the Sabbath day, this day of rest right there, surturday,
I don't want to go up until twelve's.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
I mean, to be completely honest, as we know, that's
that's pretty much every day for me. I'm a four
am to I get my eight hours asleep from four
am till about noon, but no last Thursday. We talked
about it a little bit on Wednesday's episode. My buddy
Kibler his band out of Austin Southbound Echoes, who I'm

(09:07):
rocking a very very comfortable band tea. If that's not
you know, it's it's quite comfortable. It's not heavy, it's
not even though it's like it's broken in all Kidler,
you can send us the bill for your merch plug
here ended.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Up buying this fort.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
There the show. So it's funny you say that this
is an XL and the roommate was trying to find
a two or three XL because she's been working out
in like big band shirts. It's her new, you know new.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
It's the bag.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
It's perfect and it's even better since we're right by
the Alamodome. We just end up when the bootleg T
shirt guys are walking back.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
We catch them on the way back.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Dude, we got a we got a jelly roll in.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Post mall own shirt for like ten bucks. Actually we
got two of them for ten dollars because I told him.
I was like, dude, what are you going to do
with them? You're just throwing them.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Away, you know.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
I dabbled in a little merch. That doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
It was during the whole Lakers and Spurs and the
Lakers sucks with the Spurs logo thing, and yeah, man,
I bought five hundred of them things, and you know,
and I went to every bar was selling them.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
It was a lot of words.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
It's a lot of hustling, a lot of work. And
by by the way, you cannot wear a Lakers Sucked
T shirt in Fiesta, Texas.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Oh, because that's bad language.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, I literally got rolled up. This is back when
I was a young pup and three of us, two
of my friends and I go through and we're just
little hooligans at that time.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
I think I was twenty years old, and.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
About fifteen security guards, like it was like a Delta scene.
Delta team was just swatting. I saw them on both
sides and I'm like, what is about to go down?
And I'm like, I feel like they're coming around me
and they stopped me and there's like eight of them
just circled me and said, sir, you cannot wear that shirt.

(11:07):
And I was like, oh, okay, well I'll just turn
it inside out.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
No, sir, we could go.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Filled backwards now yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
And I was like, well, someone's really gonna have to
look at it. And I don't think a kid's really
going to look at this. And it was a whole debate,
and they're like, there's shops all over the place, you
can buy a shirt.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, and I'm like, no discount.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
And I was poor at the time.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Discount.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Was like, there's no way I'm buying a twenty thirty.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Well you can buy this story.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Gets I'm sorry for the long story in the beginning, y'all,
but it gets pretty good.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Well, you can buy a white T shirt for five
dollars up in the front, all right, you two. Wait here,
we're buy the German, you know, Turkey Leg place.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
I was like, I'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
I'm gonna buy a five dollar white shirt. Get up there.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
The only size they had was medium medium. The only
size they had was medium. I was like, oh hell no.
So I was like, let me this is we didn't
have cell phones. I was like, let me go get
my friends. I'm out of here. I'm done. Yeah, I'm done.
I'm over this, sir.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
You can I enter there wearing that shirt at any time.
So I had to put on the medium shirt. I'm
winning the poohing it, dude, just like belly Bunton.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Now, you know those security guards are enjoying the hell.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
You Winny the Pooh with your belly hanging out. You know,
they're just laughing at it, to laughing with.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Each little efforts, man like.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
And then I go get my friends and they look
at me and like what is going on here? And
I'm like, what's going on is we're leaving leaving, We're
out of here. So yeah, I had to do a
walk of shame with my belly out well, and fortunately
there went my merch There went my merch career. That
was about it.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Do you think you even turned a profit on the
five hundred dollars original investment? Okay, so it worked out
in some ways some way outside of the public shaming
of wearing a medium, it.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Was like a scarlet letter.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, it's exactly well, and you know, you know, every
single person that walked by you just thought that was
what you chose to wear.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
So then they're thinking, like, who the.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Hell everybody looked? I heard it all, man. I'm just
like they're like the dad's turning, kids turning. I'm just
like just man shaking my head and I'm just like,
I'm red faced, just stomping through the thing.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
I'm angry and embarrassed. No, luckily, my buddy. Luckily Kibler's band.
They didn't have any double or triple Excel, but they
did have a single Excel and it turns out it
fits me better than the roommate anyway.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
So I think this is my shirt and this is
your shirt.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, she has one I think on on backlog set
to be delivered in the future. Yeah, but no, we
went Thursday night. They were playing at the Starlighter, which
this is one of those moments where, you know, the
roommate and I moved here in February of twenty eleven,
and the you know, for us, you know, it's fourteen almost,

(14:16):
you know, going on fifteen years in the same city,
a city that neither one of us grew up in.
Yeah uh, and didn't have any connections to until we,
you know, graduated college and moved here. So it's starting,
We're starting to get to that tipping point that I've
talked about where this San Antonio is the city I've
lived in more than any city.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
My whole life, including my childhood hometown.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
You know, so eighteen years and right, so we're it's
it's already home, but we're we're closing in on that
where it's actually by the numbers exactly. So it's one
of those weird you know, we've done so many things
in this city. The very first thing when we moved here. Originally,

(15:01):
uh we wanted you know, both of us loved live music,
and you know, she grew up in a Lubbic music
scene that was very you know, old school house shows,
you know, dive bar, open mic, you know, a very
humble music scene, like.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Covers, cover bands mostly.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Okay, so the one the cool thing about Lubbock not
as much cover bands. The people that were doing covers
were doing like country music. But her you know, scene,
her her clique was all like, you know, like hardcore
bands like every Time I Die at the drive in
kind of sounding bands like very you know, like country

(15:42):
punk basically.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
You know, rural punk.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
And uh so we you know, wanted to try to
find that here in San Antonio as soon as we
moved here because we thought, you know, what's what's gonna
be the best way to make friends, Well, find out
where the music scene is. And so the first month
we moved here, we started working for this blog called
sat X Music, and ever since then, like we met

(16:09):
these people, the great Libby and Kim who were running it,
and there are longest friends we've had in San Antonio
now and it introduced us to so many different people
that were all around our same age who now also
a lot of them have stayed here for a decade
and a half. So they've exactly, they bought properties, they've

(16:31):
they went from booking bars to now buying bars, and
you know, booking shows network very much. So all of
that to say, the guy that owns the Starlighter over
there off of fred Road in the Deco district is
a guy that I've known for years, like I've known

(16:52):
him for the last half decade now, had no idea
that he owned a couple of bars and the Starlight
or the music venue. Just had always known him as
just the friend that we would run into or that
we would see at the bar, we would see at
shows and stuff like that. So it turns out Starlighter

(17:13):
is his bar.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Oh man, so.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Immediately, yeah, exactly, and I shouldn't say bar, it's just
music venue.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
And he owns the bar that's right next to it
there in the strip.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
So is that where your friend's band played.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
It's exactly where you played, right, And so we walk
in and I'm just like Jason, like what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Like you came for the show, you know, it's like, no,
this is my place.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
I was like, oh, okay, So just small town ship
like that to begin with.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
And the show was great.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
They had you know, four band bill, a lot of
good music, my buddy's band.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Basically, the best way I could describe it is.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
It sounds like like early Stone Temple Pilots, Like it's
that very nineties alt, not a little kind of girl
but still more like la rock, less of the Seattle sound.
So this show was great formula, yeah, very much so,
very much so just straightforward rock and roll, which is

(18:12):
something I drastically miss uh in the current music lands.
I mean, it's still there, like I you find it,
you just have to dig for it because most of
the rock music that's getting played is either boomer rock
or you know, gen X rock. There's not like our
generation is the first generation that doesn't have a classic

(18:34):
rock station. You think about that, Yeah, like they just
had the massive Warp tour. Okay, but classic rock. Well,
it's not, no, because they're still playing stuff that should
be on an oldie state. Like so when we were
when we were ten years when I was ten years

(18:54):
old in the mid nineties, the classic rock station was
sixties and seventies. Yeah, so you know, it's a twenty
year gap. So now as we're sitting here in twenty
twenty five, classic rock should be like late nineties, early
two thousands. It should be the work tour stuff that's oldies.
Now that's like, no.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Oldies is the fifties. Man, I think you still got
to like that goal as classic rock. You got the eighties,
then you got the nineties grunge.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Why is it? Why does do they just get to
label their stuff exclusively as.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
Claassic rock because there's a lot of classics.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
No, No, it's because they run the radio stations and
they control the genres and the airplay, and they don't
necessarily want to take a risk on music that they're
not comfortable with because they didn't grow up listening to
our stuff anyway. So my buddy plays Thursday, and they're
all massive, like most Texas you know, country boys, Texas musicians, massive,

(19:59):
Ray Wiley, Hull, Ubbard, fans to the point that sure,
oh you don't a snake farm. I mean the first one.
We okay, here's the here's the four hundred subscribers. We
make cap listen to Ray Wiley Hubbard's entire discography.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
To take a test on it.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
He's a Texas, Texas country legend, Texas country and out
of this area, still lives around.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
The Probably like his music, I like the old like it's.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Blues Texas rock. I mean, it's good stuff. He They
all love him so much so that the guitarist in
the band has on his amp on his speaker it says,
you know, listen play more Ray Wyley Hubbard, or listen
to more Ray Wiley Hubbard, or like something like that. Yeah,
And so you know, I thought, I love Ray Wiley.

(20:50):
I'm gonna I took a picture, posted the picture from
the show like, oh yeah, listen to more Ray Wiley,
tagged Ray Wiley, just to think, Okay, maybe he'll see it,
maybe he won't, whatever, and then we, you know, left
after the show. I told my buddy by hung out
with him a little bit before we headed back to the.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
House, and I didn't think anything else about it.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
I went to sleep this is where the a bit
of a Larry David moment.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Arrives.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
One of my favorites.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
It's either you could either call it a Larry David moment,
or you could you could reference a one of the
one of the tales from the Good Book. I think
it's I'm pretty sure it's a new Testament. And you
know it's like your rewards will not be here on earth,
they will be in heaven. Just keep that it phrasing

(21:40):
mind exactly. So I woke up Friday morning. Every member
of the band had texted me or tried to call me.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
My d ms are full.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
From you know, people in the band or or tangential
people that are tangentially connected to him that that I know,
And I'm trying to figure out, like, you know, what
is like, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (22:03):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Right?

Speaker 2 (22:04):
So I call my buddy Kibler, and the first thing
he says is, I just talked to Ray Wiley Hubbard get.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Out his way to God. You just you just you
just network them together. Hey, you connecting it.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Here's the Larry David, here's the Larry David moment.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
So I got on, I got caught up on everything.
He follows he quote tweeted me and then reached out
to them and is following them on all socials. It
was talking to him about, uh, you know, trying to
get him come out to see a show next time.
He's uh, because he plays in Austin area all the time.
And you know, the guitarist from the band like Ray

(22:46):
Wiley is his like number one musical leader hero, and
so he's losing his mind that he just talked to
his you know, number one guy. And so then I
think to look, I'm like, oh, oh, I see Ray
Wiley followed my buddy Kibler, who's the drummer. He followed
the guitarist who had on his amp listened to more

(23:10):
Ray Wiley. He followed the band's account.

Speaker 7 (23:12):
Oh surely, surely he followed the guy that connected him
with all of those.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
People left out. You better learn to play guitar.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
My rewards, My rewards will be in heaven as I
was taught as a child. Because they so this did
not get a reward on this earth for all of
that network.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
This is a gorilla marketing tactic right now, just be like,
I will not take it as a personal slight, mister Riley,
but just give us a shout out at sports Cave
Live and tell him to subscribe and listen to us.
So I think we might get the five hundred right there.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Boy, here's the only thing I can chalk it up
to besides.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Just guilt trippish.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
So I ran into him one time here at what
will remain an unnamed coffee shop. He has, uh, he
has some office space that turns out is right next
to a coffee shop that I go to all the time.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
And one day, this was like two years ago.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
It was actually it was on my birthday two years ago,
as uh, you know, as still was trying to figure
out what you know, had just left I heart the
first time, was trying to figure out what the sports
Cave was going to be. Was just drowning in pressure
and anxiety to try to figure it out if oh yeah,

(24:37):
and you know, trying to find any consistency with this program.
And on my birthday two years ago, I ran into
him in the parking lot. And I might have overshared
a little some of that in my like interaction with him.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
So hold on, give me another minute, man, I'm breaking
down here. I'm losing I'm losing my mind.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
That's very possibly he might remember that, and that might
be a slight reason why I still.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Don't have another chance. Give him another chance.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, you have to have. You need stuff to listen
to while you're out on the tour. You need some
entertainment while you're out there on the open road. So yeah,
I it was a very The roommate had to put
up with me all weekend being like, huh, nope, still
no follow from.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Still no follow from road.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
So I wish, I wish I actually wasn't as bitter
as as I was.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
Did you think your ego is?

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Like I don't have an ego, and then you're.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Just like dude everyone in the band. So I'm like, dude,
you're an fing legend.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
This is awesome.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
I can't believe it.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
I'm like, awesome, man, Like you all deserve it. That's great,
But where is my reward?

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Your reward is guilt tripping him to us out on
this Twitter.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, at the at the minimum, my I mean, I
would I would take that.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
I guess he did. He did.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
I guess repost what I put out, So we got
we got some level of exposure, but it could have
been more.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
I might I might have to go like deep dive
and be like, this is the Captain Puma's from Puma's
co host. He's really sad. Start bitter, start jumping in
more sad than anything.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Well, jump into jump into Ray Wiley's d m s
and then Evan Felker's and uh, just work your way
down the line of my musical heroes until we get
a response. I'll take it.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
I'll take any of them, any of them.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah. So that was that was my Thursday and Friday
and then Saturday.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
When's the last time.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Y'all were invited to a party by someone you only kind.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Of knew all the all the time, and you go, no, okay,
well I made I made the mistake of going to one.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
That's why you don't go. Yeah, he's said, oh yeah,
I'll be there. I'll try to make it. No, well,
I'm at home watching sports. On Saturday, we had one
of our one of the newer you know friends. Because
that's the other thing, like, you know, at the age
that we're at, I've pretty much hit my friend capacity

(27:27):
outside of you know, outside of people that want to
keep listening and coming up to us in public.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Please keep that up.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Please, y'all know but like I did have so I
did have someone come up to me and says, I
love the podcast. I like. He's like, right, when I
go to bed, I kick it up on my kickstand
and I watch y'all.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
He's like, y'all do a great jack stand?

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Was he serving?

Speaker 4 (27:48):
Well, like the little kickstand on Attle?

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yeah, but Noah, he's actually a head manager at a
fine steakhouse that we can go get hooked up a.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Well, uh, we should pay full price, wouldn't we go there?
Wing wing?

Speaker 3 (28:06):
But we should definitely go there soon.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, absolutely, No, this is I've I've ran into this
guy multiple times in the neighborhood, and he goes to
places that I frequent, Like he goes to the same
coffee shop, goes to the same bar, goes to the
same record store, you know that kind of deal.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
So like, oh and you always get that eye content, Yeah,
just like get the head nod. But then you're like,
don't come over here, don't come over here, don't do it.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
But he's social, Yeah, and he comes over every time,
and he's he's also uh, he's not a born and
raised San Antonian, so he's you know, looking for you know,
new kind of like we were fifteen years ago when
we first moved here.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
So, uh and he's from Maine, which.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
Oh man, I bet he's just like.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Dude people, he's people.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Out of anyone north of the Mason Dixon, Maine is
kind of the state that I kind of you want
to go with the most. Yeah, they just don't care
about anything.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Because they're trying to stay warm. Yeah, the fishing fish.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
They're actually true libertarians. It's not just it's.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
It's not the only independent like.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Vermont have.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
I think Vermont has a real libertarian bent to Maine
has a bunch.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
They have ranked choice voting.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, that's like yeah, yeah, which I am a big
proponent of despite.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Some of its issues, just like the rest of the world.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah, like most other places that have more than two
political parties to fight over. But no, So he invited
us to a Solstice party Saturday. Saturday was the longest
day of the year. It was the summer solstice. And
every this guy is a contractor, you know, he builds houses,

(29:50):
is a hard working blue collar guy.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
So in my head, I'm thinking he's not working.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Is this is like no, no, no, I'm I'm thinking
this is gonna be like a like a barbecue, backyard
hangout kind of party, you know, so I don't get
dressed up or anything. It's nine hundred degree Texas summer
and you told me it was outside.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Like, I'm not wearing how many blue jeans and breathe
a little back shirts?

Speaker 4 (30:16):
Did you see?

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Can I interest you in pleated slacks and sports coat?

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Oh yeah, hell? No sports coats in July or in June.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
A lot of them were being carried because they but
they showed up in them because that's the kind of
crowd we were talking about.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
And as soon as the roommate and.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
I walked in, it was like, oh shit, like neither
one of us were stuff was stuff was dressed nice
but still like you know, cool temperature, trying to stay cool.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
I keep my I keep my record good and strong
as the least dressed person at every event weddings.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Well, we definitely wear that.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Even the guy there was here was a guy wearing
blue jean shorts but nice like tailor's blue jean shorts
with a golf you know, a polo golf tea, and
he was giving me ship for how I was dressed,
because I kind of knew it was kind of the
same way, Like I kind of know him a little bit,

(31:18):
and so he was giving us hell. And so long
story short, we didn't make it long, but I made
the and I find the guy who's hosting the party again.
Everyone else is dressed up. His partner, she's dressed incredibly nice.
Yeah he's dressed like he just came from the job site.
Oh he has no care whatsoever. And so like that

(31:41):
was that at least made me feel pseudo better. But yeah,
it was a bunch of It was more like a
company party.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah, and but I got free tequila.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, you got to ask these questions, man. But like you,
it can hit you one either way.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Like people will either avoid you like the plague because
you look like a scrub and they're like, who's this
bum who just walked in?

Speaker 4 (32:03):
He's not one of.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Us, or you attract him like moths to a light
and everyone want to talk to you, and they are like, hey,
how you doing, blah blah blah, And you gotta sit
there and chat with every single one of them. And
I'm just like, I get it. I look like I
came in some in a wife beater and you know,
pajama pants. Sorry, I hope you hope your union goes

(32:29):
better at a wedding.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
I hope you can recover from seeing someone that looks
like this.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
I went to a wedding and of a lore p P.
Miller jumpsuit, so good God with the wife with a
wife beater.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
It was glorious.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Man. It was the reception and I was like, there's
a keg there. And it was one during the you
know a teenage teenage days where it's like, where's the keg?
Where's the keg floating there? I'm like, dude, I'm not
dressed for a wedding reception. They're like, come on, man,
just go like that. You're good, You're good. Oh man,
everybody in that it was a Mexican wedding too. They

(33:05):
all just turned around and looked at me and just
an utter disgust.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, you were there was There was no way you
were going to be able to hide at that at
that function.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
I just stood by the keg.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah, it was. It was. That was well, that was
what we did. We just hung out by the tequila
and talked to But that's the problem. As we stood there,
everyone that came up for a drink kind of gave
it like this look, the inquisitive kind.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Of half eye open, just he's gonna be like, I
know who are? Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
There was a lot of I can't tell you how
many times I just shook a random guys like hey man,
good to see you again, and then just walked away.
That guy's going to be so confused the rest of
the night.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
The junker you get, the more confident you get, like,
hey buddy, how you doing. Was good? Always good to
see it.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Yeah, how's that golf game going?

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Brother?

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Oh man berdie the back nine?

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Did you know it looked it looked like it looked
like a bunch of dudes that were happy. Uh that
Tommy Fleetwood choked away the Travelers Championship. It was. It
was a bunch of Kegan Bradley looking dudes.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
I got, I got some story. I got some info
on that one.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, we'll do uh, we'll do weekend sports here before
we get into the main set.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
And I got a quick one over this week weekend.
I took a buddy to mine. He turned fifty. He's
a young fifty.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
For a white man. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Okay, we don't look for age, you know what I'm saying,
we don't, we don't don't want to.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Know what I look like in eleven years.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Very people, very rarely do we age, you know, counteractively,
like some people Asians.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
About specifics Asians.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Well, but so he turned fifty and he's such an
introvert and he's such a good guy man, just the
nicest guy you ever meet. And I was like, you're
turning fifty. I was like, we're going to the strip club. Now,
we're talking going to the strip club.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
So you drove him out of the San Antonio area
so you could go to an actual proper strip club.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Right we went, We went inside, We went right right
to four ten, right to fourtend old petish Okay, yeah,
perfect ten. Now they had to change it for a
liquor license way back in the day.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Oh yeah, that must have been after they were busted
not wearing their pasties by the undercovered cops that had
the best job in the world. Sorry, honey, I'm working
undercover tonight club.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
We're just looking for pasties.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
And this guy man like I'm sitting there putting money
in his hand and being.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
Like, just go to the stage and just.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Throw it at him, throw it at him. I was
like stand at the stage with him and be like it,
just hold it and let them do the work.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yeah, just see what happens.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
They know they can.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
I was like, they can read you a mile away.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Strippers are some of the most you know, the intuitive.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
What was it that like their visual body readers.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Oh, it's it's the it's the mac from It's Always Sunny,
the ocular pat down.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah, so they know, trust me, they're gonna know that
you're introvert. They're gonna know somebody brought you here because like,
you know, I go in there like I own the
place until I get kicked out again and then.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
And then they say come back tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
They're like, you're lucky you're back.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Come back next week.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
But he just would not do it.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
But like I was like trying to get him a
lappie but you know, just to like put the cherry
on top, and I'm like, well go because I was
like we had a thirty minute because his friend was all.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
Like boo, I don't want to I don't want to
go to the strip club. And I'm like, well, it
ain't really about you.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
There, Bud.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
I'm sorry, are you turn fifty?

Speaker 1 (36:50):
And I didn't really invite you either, you know, and
I'm paying for him, and like he just wouldn't do it.
But the one girl he sat there and gathered up
all his eggs and stuff was a stripper sitting at
the bar talking.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
With her boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
And dude, girl, that's the one you go after. I
was like, there's.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
This reminds me of what when we went to the
strip club for a buddy and a similar guy that
did not want to be at the strip club whatsoever.
I tried to teach him for like the first fifteen
minutes and then by the end of the night I
was talking Ron Paul politics was a random stripper at
the bar because like, yeah, that's my buddy's getting married.
Like I I tried to get him dances, but he

(37:35):
doesn't want to do any of it. So let's just
talk some some Ron Paul twenty twelve. How many times
do you think he had ever been to a strip
club before? Uh?

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Man, maybe one hand? Maybe yeah, you know, like he
just he's not that type of guy. Our strip clubs
signed nice no, no, hell no.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Well compared to like twenty years still being sold, sure,
then they never die fair. But as like is a
like when I turned eighteen. We found the first Byob eighteen.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
And U Paradise. That was me. Well, I used to
go roll after.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Two o'clock by myself with all the sketchy people, dangerous,
with all the sketchy people in your bloor.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
Man, I was a little g at eighteen.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Man.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, no, I just I don't feel like I mean,
without having any anecdotal evidence, it just doesn't feel like
the mid twenty something year old dude is flocking to
the strip club like we were in the in the
early two thousand.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
I'm definitely one of the oldest people in there.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
See that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
You got a couple of old g's.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
It's like baseball, it's the average age just keeps getting old,
original gangsters. Then you got the new up and comers.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
You know, they're coming in there trying to floss, and
you know they got the ones who sit there and
try to girlfriend the strippers. And then you got the
weird guys that will sit there with their basketball parents ready.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
For Yeah, that's that's unstable.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
Don't be that guy.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Don't be that guy. Don't be that don't even wear sweatpants.
That's that's questionable enough. We have a sweatpants exemption. Just
look like, all right, Plexico, you're shoot yourself in the leg.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Hey, I don't carry I don't carry that kind of
a gun, so to speak. All right, it was a
good time had by.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
It was a good time had by all by the
end of the night at least.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yeah, he yeah, he had a good time. But like, no, no,
Lappy literally went up and just put four dollars on
the stage and walked away, And.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah, just as.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Is this, where is this? Where is this where it goes?
Is it okay? If I just leave this here for you,
I'd literally go.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
I was like, just go put on the states. Put
it on the states.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Well, and that's the most annoying thing too, because they're like, dude,
I'm trying. I'm trying to help you here. Yeah, like
I'm trying to make this a good time.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
I was like, even I coached a strip to be like, look,
my guys, you.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Were working both angles tout.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
I was like, I'm gonna get him over here. Just
just just turn them out, man, just turn them out.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
You know what I'm saying. As far as I'm saying,
they're trying to convince them. She's eyeing me like, is
your guy gonna come over here? What's up, dude, I'm waiting.
As I'm waiting trying to shove money into his hand.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
You're literally just like pushing. It's like a kid that
doesn't want to go to the first day of school.
You're just pushing him towards the door. Oh buddy, yeah,
I dude, I can't tell you. The last time we
were at a strip club was after one of the
It was a Formula One weekend over in Austin, a
numple of.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
When he was in that strip club.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
That's a good time.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Anytime there's big events like that, it's a good time
to hit the old landing. Yeah, big time. They're flying
them in like Diddy.

Speaker 6 (40:57):
No.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
It uh the only other thing I had at LG.
We're talking about this a little bit before you got here.
I think I saw for the first time ever something
I've never seen before. Have you ever seen someone like
a student driver actually get into an accident on the road.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
No, I've been in the car with a student driver.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Okay, double mailboxes.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
I'm glad.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Wait were you the student driving?

Speaker 1 (41:27):
No? I was in the back seat and this kid
was like the little nerd nervous as hell, and they're like,
he just took a turn so wide. It was in
the back of MacArthur's neighborhood, you know, and he just
took out took out two mailboxes, and we just I
was like, can we just walk through the blue bars

(41:48):
and go back to class? And I'm not going to
sit here and wait for the because the guy had
to sit there and wait for the car, of course,
and like, yeah, so we walked through. If you're true that.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
That's a federal like damaging a mailbox, is that or
is that just an old like urban legend.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Well, yeah, like if you damage, if you do it
and they choose Oh I was. I was a swinger man.
I got three in a row one time.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yeah, we heard alleged studs allegedly allegedly. We we always
did uh firecrackers, you know, that was our go to.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
That's a loud noise that's intentionally in the.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Middle of the night, saying your your mailbox being lit up,
like ho Chi Minh City, the UH or Tehran or
Verdeaux or whichever one. No LG was talking. We were
talking before you got here. Uh LG was talking about
student drivers on an episode a couple of months ago,
and I so the person the one I saw it

(42:46):
was sixteen oh four traffic, and it looked like like
they had just merged onto sixteen oh four and there's
all the construction out here. But I think something startled
them or they saw people breaking.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
Make a choice.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
So he got in the lane, but then immediately slammed
on his brake.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
So the car behind him just.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Right, yeah, well you could get yeah yeah, you couldn't
make her.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
I I think that's the first time I've ever seen
it though.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Yeah, you see because the car is like, you know,
have you ever did you take soon driving?

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Oh yeah, you got the chicken brake?

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Yeah well no, they like they actually got on the
bottom for the driver to like stop.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
In my little small town, it was just this contraption
where a guy, the teacher in the passenger seat just
pulled a let and it did it. It was like
a bar that was set up.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
It was almost like like what was it like a
power drift.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
It looked like you're like Travis Pastrana, you know, doing
a rally car. That was basically what he had and
he would he would always put He was also the
uh JV football coach, like defensive coordinator, and so he
would always just randomly pull it just to jack with
you too, in the middle of things. So it was
it was very his I learned to drive in the

(44:07):
middle of a pasture when I was ten, like all
of that was just a formality at that point.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
But yeah, let's let's talk some weekend sports, because I
know before we get into the main segment and talk basketball,
I know there are you had a few things on
the list, starting with the Yankees. Minute, get it on
the clay, give me a minute. The Yankees are back
winning series. This is what we need to do. We

(44:36):
took two out of three with our division rivals, the Orioles,
and Judge is coming out of his slumps.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
He has his slump if you call it.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
That still went from god Mo to stratusped But now
we are losing to the Reds, which you know, they
got one of those good players out there, and we
just need to get back to winning series. But when
we keep having starting pitchers go on the AIA, we
have to bring up these rooks like we did today.

(45:08):
We have some kid I don't even know the name of.
He only gave up three runs. He almost had a
quality start, but we are not scoring runs with runners
on base now that is a big problem. But we
got stand back. He's hitting over three hundred. Judge is
hitting it. And the problem we have now is we
have too many good players and we have like Goldie

(45:30):
sitting on the bench.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
A bunch of people sit.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
On They call it a good problem.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
I call it a problem.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Yeah, any problem is still a problem, whether it's a.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Good one or not. The Rangers have the Orioles starting.
I know they were down four nothing earlier, and I
think it's even worse now. But I'm worried the Rangers
might be one of those teams that not gets the
Orioles jump started or anything.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
But it was like starting to jump start.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
They kind of are.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
And both of you know, Texas and Baltimore have been
equally disappointing when.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
They when they fired their manager. The Ools have a
surprisingly good record, yeah, and they had such a horrible
start that there's still.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Yeah, there's still ten games under five hundred. But because
of the damn you know, three team wild card now
it's you know, they're only oh, save the dog, they're
only uh five five and a half six games out
of a wild card spot. The Orioles Rangers are two
and a half out of a wild card spot. I

(46:33):
know you talk about having the issue of not getting
hits with runners in scoring position.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Let me introduce you to the Rangers four run rule.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Anytime the Rangers score four runs in a game, yeah,
and the league average is like I think it's I
think the league average is like high threes. Yeah, it
might even be over four, but it's somewhere right at
that march. Every time the Rangers are just an average
offense and score four runs, their record is twenty seven

(47:07):
and four.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Jeeus.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
And let me remind you.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
And we got bats sitting on the bench over the
Yanks thirty eight bad wins sitting on the bench thirty.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Eight wins total. So that means when the Rangers don't
score four runs, they are eleven and fifty six thirty seven,
eleven and thirty seven. When they don't score four runs,
that's pretty bad.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
But I keep I keep telling myself, there's still and it's.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Only two games, and we still got all. They've still
got half a season. Man.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
You know the fact, like the Rangers have a and
it's an outlier because they've had a couple of games
lately of you know, sixteen runs and another game of
eleven runs. But they're run differential. You know, they're were
three games under five hundred, but their run differential is
like plus thirty. No, well, it's the pitching that's anchoring it.

(48:09):
But they're just not They're still in the long run,
not scoring, they're not runs per game, right, So I'm
I'm still I mean, obviously now with you know, really
tomorrow or Wednesday nights Live NBA Draft Show, it's kind
of the last fall sports we're gonna talk for a while.

(48:32):
It's you know, July, we're gonna do our NFL divisional previews.
We're gonna talk more baseball on each show.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
So we're gonna try to come up with a couple
of segments.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
You know.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Yeah, I think you just today in Hitler, as you
suggested earlier, here's a Hitler fact.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Yeah, here's a Hitler fact.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
I would not want that segment.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
No, I'm watching baseball, but I'm about to, like it's
about to be the moment where the Rangers are either
going to be buyers or sellers, and it's really going
to affect the next two months of my baseball viewing experience.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
I'm gonna start. I'm gonna start doing some deep dive
on the OCHO and get this some cornhole stats. Ax
throwing watched.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
I actually did watch ax throwing on the They throw.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Them both with the same hand at the same.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
Time, Viking style.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Bro, you wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Believe what these guys, true athletes, true athletes. You wouldn't
believe what they're capable of. Drinking a beer well throwing
an axe. There's nothing American about that. Yeah, I uh,
I did see something else from your weekend. I saw
you did a little some more gorilla marketing at the bar.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
So let's see.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Let's recount the ways you have promoted the show. You've
stolen people's phones at the bar.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
To I did not steal them.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
I borrowed them.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
You uh, casually borrowed them.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
We'll say that through force intimidation into okay, intimidation, speak softly,
but carry a big stick, as a former president once aid,
So you've done that for us. You have now taken
it to a bit of a new level. And it
wasn't even someone that you knew either. So I get

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a text from Cap this was this Friday or Saturday night,
one of the nights this weekend.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
And it's just a blow up doll.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
That is Do we have that picture.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
That is being passed around? I just took it someone
you don't even know.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
They're celebrating something, a birthday, an anniversary, a divorce, a death,
they're celebrating something at the bar, and cap just writes
Sports Cave Live going down, both arms.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Up the doll and like prime position, dude.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
No one markets their show like we do.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Oh Man, gorilla marketing at its best. And then I
put Captain like right over the thing. Do we have
the other one with the girls going ask the mouth?

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Well, okay, maybe maybe an acronym, maybe an acam at
little atl maybe next time. I do enjoy seeing the
new ways you find to market this show. You want
to mention the golf here before we get into yeah, man.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Golf man Tommy Fleetwood, that was brutal. He just cannot
get a PGA win man. He's one on some of
like some of the Europeans and some of the other tournaments.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Did you see the official stats?

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Since nineteen eighty three, he has forty one top ten
finishes on the PGA tour without a without without a win.
The next closest golfer is at thirty four. Yeah, and
it's someone who is retired. It's not he's his record
is no going to be beat by anyone currently, and
he's just adding to his you know, everyone else was

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at like thirty two, thirty three, thirty four, and then
there's Tommy with forty one top.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Ten, someone who actually is capable of winning a major,
who's sold, who's capable of winning any match. And he
sat there on whole eighteen and they like, all you
had was a gap wedge. He like, well, he pulled
out his fifty like I think it's fifty two, and
then he was like, oh no, man, I'm his adrenaline.

(52:33):
I know his adrenaline was pumping. I know that feeling
when he thought he was caught between shots. Yeah, he
was like, I'm going to hit this harder in the distance.
And the caddy told him this is your club, yep,
this is your club, this is your distance, and you
got to trust your caddy on this. But he thought
his adrenaline was pumping so much he needed the club
down because he was going to hit it in extra

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you know, twenty percent and nope, comes up short, just
lay it all the green and then you had old
buddy come in and just put it eight feet next
to the hole. And guess what Tommy does on the
He chips it and it lands right behind the who

(53:14):
want Keegan Bradley right behind this spot. So Keegan gets
the best read possible.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
Very similar to what we saw and tom last week.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Yeah, and Tommy missed it, missed it on the right
and it wasn't even close.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
It was it was like it was like half half
a ball.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Oh wait.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
And then guess who just read.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
That and was like, h let me go ahead and
just set up a little bit more to the left,
and they switched positions and Keigan Bradley wins the tournaments.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Yeah, and you know, Keygan, that's Keegan's hometown tournament that
he wanted it.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
It's held in Connecticut.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
He's from uh Vermont or Roote, one of the uh
you know clam chowder eaton states up there north yeah,
north of you know, actually north of New York City.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
So second time he wins the Travelers. He's always talked
about how you know important that tournament is to him.
They nance had all of the pictures of when Keegan
was a kid going to the tournament. It was a
whole storyline all weekend. But the fact that you know
he still had to make that putt to win it. Yeah,
but the storyline to me not just Fleetwood on eighteen,

(54:33):
but playing the final three holes of the tournament at
plus two. You know, he bogies sixteen and then honestly
should have bogied seventeen, saved part, and then gets up
to eighteen and has no confidence, no momentum anymore if
you believe in moment And.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
What's up with the old buddy who chipped it in?

Speaker 8 (54:55):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Yeah, was at Russell Henley. I think it was Henley
playing mister Morale himself. No one saw this, but he
sat there and set up for a chip or a putt,
and the ball moved a dimple. And if you've seen
a golf ball, just one little dimple. So that's a
millimeter boom, and that's a stroke. That's a stroke if

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he thinks if you touch that ball, if he caused it,
and he caused it and he doesn't know. Even if
you plant that club below it and you cause the
terrain to where it falls backwards, that's a stroke. No
one saw it, so he called a stroke on himself.
And yeah he did that.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
I think day two, okay, day two and oh they
did a whole exposon it about like this is this
is what golf is all about.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
It man, he was he was like me and a
strip club.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Just call.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
I was like, there's a lot of meat on that bone.
There is.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
There is no part of me that ever needs to
hear Nance do anything besides golf. Like he is just
so so much more comfortable. Like you get him on
a golf course, he's in his and he's in his element.

Speaker 7 (56:12):
You put him next to Tony Romo going oh Jim, yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Like that it's it's not that's just not Jim Nance.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
And now I'm talking about well, you know, I plan
on retiring in twenty thirty seven or whatever. Like I
just would love if CBS told Nance like, yeah, thanks,
but no things, we don't need you for an.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Yeah, that man shipped from the rough about a sixty
foot ship, which also adds pressure, and he and he
ended up tying, well, will basically end up tying for
third at that point, like which would time for second.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Time for second.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Yeah, So if he if he didn't call that dimple shot.
That would have been a playoff. Well if he everything, or.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
If Kegan had missed the putt, then we would have
gotten a three way playoff between the actual final my
favorite three group. Yeah, we heard the two studs. Yeah,
I mean we went to PT I get great. It's
it's crazy. I don't understand it. I get great service pegas.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
It's so weird. I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Yeah, I drink for free all night.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
I don't understand they see the roommate with me, but
still free drinks from every angle. Now, it's so weird
that the Tommy Fleetwood conversation because I think I think
we all think of him as a premiere player of
his generation. I mean he's not. He's not Rory Scottie.
He's at the top, but who is he somewhere right now?

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Would you rather bet on Justin Thomas or Tommy Fleetwood.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Because I think they're Thomas because he won Thomas because
you know, if start Yeah, he's.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Got a couple of majors, but he needs.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
To break through and win and then I will put
start putting money on him. But it was like after
Rory had that masterful meltdown, at the Masters, and you
like to play on words.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
Yep, he stuck the landing.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
He couldn't win a major, and I always betted on
him to choke until he finally came through and won
the Masters this year, which I still thought he was
gonna choke.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
And well, you remember those first five holes Bryson had
a three shot leave.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Yeah, And then I was texting my dad.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
I'm like, he's choking.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
He's going choke. But that's what he's got to break through.
That's all he's gotta do. Breakthrough, actually close the door
and win. Listen to your caddy. You know, that's what
you're paying him for, you know.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
But the guys, you know, the people thinking about it
like that, it's for them. It's normally the breakthrough to
win a major. Yeah, you know, Tommy is he just
win a match? He just needs to get some.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Win on the board on American soil.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Or like Greg Norman man he went, he won matches,
but he didn't win exactly.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
And I think we're we're like with Fleetwood, there's not
a more there's very few more consistent golfers in terms
of you know, average earnings, you know where top ten finishes,
stuff like that. It's just somehow all of that good
is completely overshadowed because he's never actually won.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
I mean, his career earnings have.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
To be Oh man, he's a millionaire ten times.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Over at least, I mean without ever.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Well, we had some other sports. Another champion was crowned
LSU Tigers.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
You want to take a guest on Tommy Fleetwood's career
earnings three close.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Thirty one and a half thirty one kids, go pick
up a golf stick.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Yeah, uh dude, Yeah, you just got to just be consistent,
make the cut every weekend quickly.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
LG.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
LG let us slide through all of last week without
I mean I didn't. I wouldn't expect this from him,
but it was a birthday weekend for one LG. Sweet LG,
and I would assume we have just crazy stories of
hedonism and rain just raging all weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
I'm surprised driving to boys Town, I'm surprised.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
He's able to actually run the show Tony and he's
not home, right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Yeah, so tell us all about it there, buddy.

Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
I went and went out to eat and went home,
went to sleep.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
That's good at least tell me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
I mean, you didn't You didn't just like go to
Wendy's and get spicy nuggets.

Speaker 5 (01:00:57):
So now I went to a Japanese rest called Suko,
which is on a bulverdi in sixteen oh four.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
And it's pretty pretty legit. I would have to say,
I think.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
Did you turn off your phone?

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Because when I realized it was your birthday, I called
you all late and it doesn't winistrate the voicemail.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Well you called me at one am. My bedtime's ten pm.
I know, yeah, I would have got your ass out.

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
I was asleep.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Man, I don't know. I don't know how you can
pull off at ten pm bedtime with all of the
especially with the switch to oh man, I'm old.

Speaker 5 (01:01:33):
Man, I get up early, so I go to bed early.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Home Bill, you go, you get up early, you go
to bed early. That's a successful that's a successful route. Yeah,
it kind of sounded like Sam Presty preaching consistency there. Well,
happy belated birthday to you. I did get a response
to the text message. I said, I didn't call like

(01:01:57):
you did, but I sent a text.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
I call. I want to make it personal.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Yeah, very very much. Let's get into the main segment here,
because we do have the end of the NBA season,
or at least the actual games have now finally wrapped up.
A I think all in all, grade the playoffs your

(01:02:25):
enjoyment of the playoffs from opening around, like also the Thunder,
this was like, well I heard the number.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
It was like two months ago.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
It was like almost two months ago, forty something days
ago that the Thunder played their first game of Round one.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
The playoffs are damn near like half the football season.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
But you're one that wants to give them more time to.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
I want to cut down on the regular season. I
like the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
You just want to play a best of three and
four minute quarters.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
I did not say those words.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
No, I don't know, man, I you know the injuries.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
If you wanted me to grade it, I would say
I would give it a B. But you know why
I'm giving it a be injuries, Just like you said.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
I think I think that's the that's the most deflating
part of it, because I think we got I mean,
we got multiple seven game series in the first round.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
We got buzzy, we got we got upsets.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
We got two seeds losing the seven seeds in the
first round.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Yeah, the first round, the first round was amazing, Like
it was just like every single one of them had
like storylines, you know, back and forth, you got people
banging like it was the beginning.

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
The beginning jumped off.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
The second round, we had some injuries on some key
games not as good. The third round was fantastic, and
then you know, then comes the old Finals.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
You know, yeah, I it's so we're obviously going to
talk about the injuries because it's it's yeah, it's unfortunate.
We talked about it last week when we were not arguing,
but talking about some of the potential ways to alleviate
some of the injury concerns with you know, as the
athletes I've gotten, you know, progressed to the level of

(01:04:16):
explosiveness and athleticism that they have now compared to I
was watching. I made the roommate watch a game from
the ninety six NBA Finals of Bull Sonics because I
wanted her to see one the Sonics playing in an
NBA finals because a little spikee to the Oklahoma City there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
A thousand percent a thousand percent.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Because I was explaining to her the whole you know,
Bennett the Oklahoma City businessman telling Seattle he's not going
to move the team and then a year later moved.
I was giving her the whole backstory, and so I
was like, you know, look, this is what they took
away from us, this is what they took away from
the Seattle so much better exactly. So I was making

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her watch that, and you know, her first observation was,
it's It's just it looks like a completely different sport.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
I mean, of course, yeah, half.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Court, throw it down low, move around some screens, kick
out all this stuff. Look for the cutters, you know,
and that's how that's they ran through the big Man. Yeah,
thousand percent.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
And you know, comparing that style.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Of play, because you also got to think about.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
You know, right before that, it was you know, the
bad boys and the you know, ultra physicality.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Of those games exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
So I was, you know, trying to show how uh,
poor Rudy Tom Johanovitch getting absolutely cold clocked. You know,
I was just showing her a bit of the progression
of the league, and you know, specifically talking about Seattle,
Oklahoma City. But I just don't, I don't necessarily know

(01:05:59):
that what we saw in this playoff run with the
injuries is necessarily a massive flag of what's to come,
or if it's just a small sample size with a
lot of outliers and guys that really like Halliburton shouldn't
have been He shouldn't have been playing with that strained calf.

(01:06:22):
That is the number one injury, the PopEd Achilles. That
is what can happen when like that's why Luca Luca's
last game with the Maus on Christmas Day, he strained
his calf. He sits out two months. They didn't want
they thought he was wasn't rushing to come back. But
also I think there's he's seen guys like Katie popped

(01:06:43):
the Achilles with a strained calf. I it feels like
there's some you know, Halliburton, if this was a regular season,
he'd be out for a month. But it's game seven
every for a year.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
I'm sure you even dreamed of Game seven finals, you
coming in hurt and just willing yourself just to sit
there and make the game winner. And guess who was
made the game winner in four games? Yes, you know
throughout the playoff was Halliburn. So there's no way he's
missing it. Not a chance, not a chance.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
But I don't think anyone did wrong I don't think
the Pacers did wrong in allowing him to play.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
I don't think Caliburn wrong and playing their ruined their
next year. But like, who knows when you're gonna get
that chance again.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
And that's the thing, especially when you're Indiana, and it's
kind of you know, I wouldn't, I shouldn't say Fluke,
But when you started the playoffs, you I don't think
any Pacers fan was thinking that, you know, we're about
to make an NBA Finals run, and then when you
get there, well, now it's when are we going to
be back?

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
We are in the air. We are beginning a new
era where defense is keing once again.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Well having having officials that don't call hyper physical defense
on one side of the court, but.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
Then lou Dort flops across the court.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Awful, But it's it's the power of Honestly, this is
I mean, San Antonio used to have a lot of.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
This flopping rule crowd. Why don't they sit there and
be like, yo, that's an obvious flop because that was like, yeah,
it could be called a moving screen, but that's just
them walking up the court, getting your point guard, you know,
room to back and forth where he goes back and forth,
and well, also that happens every freaking play.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
And it's nim Hard bumping into lou Dort. Lou Dort
is an NFL linebacker playing NBA basketball, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
He doesn't fall over like that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
But again, I think it's when you have twenty thousand
people in Unison all on like it's North Korea up
there exactly. It's they're all thunder propaganda, they work the refs.
It's it's the I think the best home crowd advantage
right now in the league. We saw it with their
point differential across the playoff run. I just think you

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get those calls when you put so much pressure on
the officials and play as physical as they do on defense.
It puts pressure on the officials because we can't make
a call every time down the court. So they get
away with a lot on defense. They play great defense,
I'm not taking but they also they found a balance

(01:09:30):
there to not get calls on the defensive end while
getting some pretty soft, floppy calls.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
I am. I am a full component on These refs
have like they've got plans. I've seen them with the
Spurs too many times, phantom.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Calls like how about the fact that Scott Foster, we know,
we have the phone logs where he was talking thirty
plus times to a known mobster who was working setting betting,
Like we know that, how does Scott Foster still have
a job. Because the NBA had to say, oh, no, no, no,
it was all Donahue, It was all Donahy that did it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
It was one guy. It's not a cancerous problem across
all of.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Our officials, even though when Donnie was about to expose
every day he went quiet. Yeah, and we have court
documents that show multiple other officials we're talking to the
same mobsters that were working the lines for the game.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
Funny like now that there's so many parlays and stuff
where it's like over under eight nine blocks, you know,
stuff like that, and then you get it like right on,
You're like.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
Huh kind of suspicious, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Huh. I'm like, maybe that was that foul that was called.
That was definitely a block, you know, but like, uh,
the officials definitely once Halliburn went down, they were not
gonna let Oklahoma City lose that game in Oklahoma City.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Also, and once Haliburton went down, Indy didn't have anybody
that could put pressure on in Oklahoma City.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Really, I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
They started that full court pressure in the like in
the beginning of the fourth, end of the third, and
they were doing work.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Yeah, it got up to twenty twenty one point lead,
and then they cut it all the way back down
to ten, maybe even nine.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
Yeah, no, they know they got it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Yeah, they got down to singull digits and they were
doing it with full court defense, old school a Lah
Michael Jordan and the Bulls, and didn't they start calling
these tiki tag fouls. But we also got to say, like,
I mean, it didn't help because the Pacers were turning
it over as well.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Yeah, that's that was as soon as Halliburton went down.
You can't have twenty I think when they finished twenty
one twenty two turnovers in the game. You can't have
you can't because everything those turnovers is an extra possession
to Oklahoma City. And a lot of those turnovers were
the worst kind where it was open court fast break

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that led to fast breaks exactly. So you know, I
it was funny because you know, TJ. McConnell was single
handedly keeping them in the game while also losing the
game for them because he would hit the shot, but
then commit a turnover the next possession. So it was like,
you know, one step forward, two steps back, and the

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Pacers could never.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
They couldn't recover with the revs call those flop calls.
Then they started calling the fouls when they were doing
the full court press. Pacers were killing themselves with their
own turnovers.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
The turnovers. Yeah, it was it was done insurmountable.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
You know, I thought seven minutes, you know, the first
seven minutes of that game, I was starting to think,
like we're about to have an all timer, like this
is about like Halliburton's on fire. Halliburton was still a third,
the third leading scorer in the game. It had halftime actually,
I think halfway through the third quarter. Yeah, he was still.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
He was he was on fire, and he said, I'm
taking the shots I'm taking and it was awesome. Yeah,
and it was just like you knew you could just
gonna get Halliburn and SGA going back and forth, just
punch after punch, heavyweight championship sign.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
Which also should be said, you know, SGA, SGA.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
I'll say something good.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
First only ever committed one turnover all of Game seven,
and it was late in the fourth quarter. When he
was stumbling and just kind of tossed.

Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
Yeah, and when they did it with they double team exactly, that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Was his one turnover all game. He only shot eight
for twenty seven though.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
Yeah he was he wasn't hot.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
And that's where I say, if if what you're saying,
it would have come down to Halliburton or SGA. Yeah,
Halliburton was hot, Jalen Haliburton was How did Jalen Williams
not win the MVP?

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
They were going to give it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
To SGA for nerdy and the whole time the last
person SGA did average thirty a game for the series.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
He did, but like, yeah, I mean overall, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Yeah, because all he needed was twenty seven in game seven,
hit a thirty point average for the whole series.

Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
And he got there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
Yeah, okay, Well he's the first person since if I'm wrong,
Tim Duncan to win a MVP League MVP and a
Finals MVP in the same year. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
I think that's pretty sure. That is correct.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
It's funny too, because the comparisons, the comparisons to you know,
the Duncan Prime Spurs Golden era to what Oklahoma City
might be stepping into. Now there's obviously, Sam Presty is
the architect of what Oklahoma City has done. And we
know he's from you know, RC's Tree, executive Tree, and

(01:14:42):
it's really you know, I'll tell you what well, LG.
You have that Sam Presty audio I did ended up.
You know, anytime a team wins the championship, you start
getting a lot of these stories from you know, behind
the scenes or guys like you know, Spurs fans obviously
know you know a guy that does it the Spurs way.

(01:15:04):
You don't hear from a whole lot like Sam Presty
doesn't do one on one interviews with people. He does.
He meets with the press twice a year, beginning of
the season, end of the season, and that's it. So
you don't hear a whole lot from him. But he was,
you know, he goes all the way back to Seattle.

(01:15:28):
He was he drafted Durant. Oh wow, he was twenty
eight years old, twenty nine years old when he got
the Seattle GM job after he left the Spurs and
he's been with them ever since.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
Though.

Speaker 4 (01:15:40):
Was he like a little private I mean he must be.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
He must have been like a little prodigy, because with
Kevin Durant, Harden and Westbrook.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Exactly, drafts and Abaka. I mean like they were killing
it on the draft and couldn't get it done. And now,
oddly enough, this team that he's built has one player
on the roster that was taken with a single digit
draft pick. They have one guy that was in the
top nine of the twelve or eleven I think, yeah,

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and Jalen Williams was twelve, Chet was number two. But
this was Sam Presty.

Speaker 4 (01:16:14):
Oh wonder Bread himself back.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
In twenty twenty one, talking about, you know, they had
just made the SGA trade. They had just gotten five
first round picks and SGA for Paul George and he
was talking about, you know what this process is gonna
look like. And I think for a Spurs fan, you
can listen to Sam Presty from three years ago and

(01:16:38):
kind of get an idea of what the Spurs we.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
Were killing our GM during all those trades.

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
We were like, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
Like we didn't trust him one bit, and now we're
like forever in his debt exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
You know, Phils, the only team that has more ammunition
over the next five years than the Spurs is still
somehow Oklahoma's with as good as a team they had. So
this was Sam Presty from twenty twenty one, four years ago.

Speaker 8 (01:17:05):
As I said earlier, we can't be reactionary or emotional
about it. We just have to keep chipping away every
single day, knowing that over time will achieve our goals
if we have the poise, the patience, and the willingness
to adjust to the setbacks that we know will inevitably encounter.
As they say, shortcuts cut long run short and we're

(01:17:26):
going to do everything in our power not to allow
that to happen. And when we do get back to
the post, we want it to be an arrival and
not an appearance and arrival meaning that we can return,
we can be there, we can take some you know,
some chance or bad fortune and not have it sink
us in completely. We've seen the benefit of that, and

(01:17:48):
you know, during our earlier years we don't want a
position where we get there but we have no way
to get back. And that's the focus and the precision
with which we're working. We understand and the ecosystem of
the NBA, I think very very well. We understand how
that works. We understand what we have to work with
and I feel extremely confident and optimistic about the future

(01:18:11):
that we have here. We just have to continue to
stick with it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
That's good. Yeah, And like a couple of things he
said there, I think most importantly when he says, we
understand the landscape of the NBA and we understand what
we have to work around.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
With, talking about like a small market team, knowing that
these stars are going to go something.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
And knowing that they went through that one time already
already with the Durant Westbrook cart.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Which one do I keep? Which one do I lose?
You know exactly. He's like, that's why he's got like,
just like the Spurs, we got picks going up to
thirty twenty thirty two, you know. And it's because we
know that some of these stars are going to want
out and we're going to need another pick via Charlotte,

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via Atlanta or something like that to where we might
get a chance to get up into the top ten
to get another star.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Or if you match, if you look at what Oklahoma
City has done over these specifically the last three years,
we'll look at it. So you you got SGA and
we've talked about, you know, that's your anchor that's your Wimby,
that's your potential MVP in the future. Guy now franchise, right,

(01:19:30):
He's he's your one unquestionable batman. You're your one a
super everything. But then you know Oklahoma City's next two
Jalen Williams and Chet. Jalen was a twelfth pick in
the draft. Chet was number two pick there. If you're
just making kind of the same nucleus core comparison, you know,

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that's your Steph Harper or Steph Castle and Dylan Harper
where they're about to take two in the draft, you know,
Wednesday night. So there's your three that you were you
feel like you were absolutely committed to, and you're going
to build around. And then then you look at the guys.
You look at the rest of your roster, and you know,
this Oklahoma City team had Josh Giddy, who was a

(01:20:17):
you know, a flawed player, but a triple double machine,
you know, a solid young asset. Well, they choose to
flip him for Caruso back and that trade was during
the NBA Finals last year, which we're going to talk
about a trade that was just made during It's so
weird when teams are making trades during.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
The NBA Finals happened, Right, It's very weird. It's unstaid
because he's an egomaniac.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Right, So they trade for Caruso. Caruso's one of Caruso's
thirty thirty one, I think, oldest player on the roster.
They only have two other guys that are over twenty seven. Like,
they are so young, and they've got the young core.
Then they go out they offer Hartenstein, you know, the

(01:21:07):
big free agent contract. They get him in address their
size and rebounding, and then they make the Caruso trade
and address their parameter defense. See, and that's where I say,
you know, thinking about because now Oklahoma City has what
thirteen first round picks over the next seven years to
supplement the roster. So if they decide, you know what, Chet,

(01:21:31):
you're always injured. You haven't put on any weight. Man,
he's softer than Wonder breaks exactly. And so but now
that they have I mean, they've already got the championship.
But now that they haven't used any of their real
assets to chase that big star, they've still got the
young core. Now they can you know, flip Chet for

(01:21:52):
more draft capital or for enough.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
Right now, he doesn't have any max con They just have.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
All of the every avenue of team building is available
to them because they were patient. And I think that's
the biggest takeaway when we compare what Oklahoma City is
today versus what we want the Spurs to be in
the coming years, it's Oklahoma City's patients has allowed them
to build a championship team without bleeding assets to get it,

(01:22:21):
and also has now set them up better than any
team in the league to combat the changing salary cap,
to keep the team together or to get supplemental pieces
without really having to absolutely blow up the core of
the team.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
As it says, like, you know, go to the cheesy
sports dad talk the saurus. You want to be the
one fielding calls not making them.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Yeah, Presty, Presty went full dad sports the source because
another his line there, short cuts cut, long, run short
Yeah yeah, and it's look, it's cheesy's but he's absolutely right.
Look at what the Rockets just did. Rockets, that's a
short cut. Well in a second, But just the way

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that Oklahoma City has avoided those shortcuts and has stayed patient,
I think that's as we compare that to the Spurs,
you know, the potential you know, any deal for Giannis,
you're giving up one of those three core assets of
Castle Harper obviously not Wimby, but you're giving up one
of those first two guys. That would have been a

(01:23:33):
short cut this KD trade. Even if you didn't have
to give up Steph or Harper, you're still giving up
so Hand or someone that is on the you know,
peripheral of that core foundation that you've been building and developing.
That would have absolutely been a shortcut that Houston just
chose to take.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
I just think, as cheesy as it is, that there's.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
A reason Sam Presty says that because he learned it
in San Antonio and he stayed true to his guns.
And credit to the Oklahoma City, the Pop Tree forgiving
him that room, you know, and not panicking when the
first super team they had ended up fizzling out with
only what one NBA Finals appearance the twenty twelve when

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they lost to the Heat.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
Maybe the Mavericks needed to take that and just not panic.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
Dude, the Mavericks.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
The Mavericks right now, the Mavericks right now are are
like the uh trusting Nico, No trust, don't panic. Being
a MAVs frund right now, it's like being just a
random Ranian just trying to live his day to day
life while going at the top.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
We're bombing who what? Why?

Speaker 4 (01:24:47):
Why they're coming to mom?

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Why?

Speaker 7 (01:24:51):
Who thought this would be a good idea?

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
Yeah, no, it's a dude Maps Maps fans or So
it's funny you say that because you know, obviously we're
gonna talk, you know, NBA Draft Wednesday night as we
do the live show during the draft. And it's so
there's so many of my MAVs friends that watched these
NBA playoffs and just thought, like, this is why you

(01:25:17):
don't trade Luca, Like I get all of the every
everything they ever they've said so far. Sure, whatever, But
this MAVs team beat Oklahoma City soundly last year in
the playoffs, had ran up against Boston. Who I think
Boston if a healthy Taitum, I think Boston would have
beat them all the kid. Oh yeah, that's so. Oklahoma

(01:25:41):
City went out and got Hartenstein because Lively and Gafford
pounded them in the playoffs last year.

Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
PJ.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Washington was physical wing, so they went out and got Caruso.
Like the Oklahoma City's moves that they made were intentionally
made to get past.

Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
Luca and Kyrie.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
Yeah, and not just solely Dallas, but obviously they saw
a weakness between them and the rest of the upper
teams of the West. But you know, a lot of
my MAVs fans buddies were just saying like, this could
have been us playing Indiana in the finals and back
to back years, and that we would have actually gotten

(01:26:19):
that one. They would have gotten that one. But no,
you will not convince me that you would have beat
Oklahoma City this year.

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
I don't think. I don't think that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:30):
I think their defense ramped up, they got better.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
Well, and again I think that the additions Oklahoma City
made were perfectly to combat the loss to Dallas last year.
And I don't I just don't think that is a
You mentioned though, the looking at the odds already out
for next year, obviously you know Oklahoma City.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
Did you jump Oklahoma City, No, not even close.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
They jumped, They jumped significantly, but they're not even top three.
Uh you want to guess, So Thunder are one, and
it's the biggest it's the biggest gap between the uh
first round of championship odds between the number one team
and the number two team on the list.

Speaker 3 (01:27:21):
So Oklahoma City is plus two twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
Basically, Vegas is saying like, we're not giving you any advantage.
We think they're gonna win back to back. Number two,
number two. It's the team that won the most games
besides Oklahoma City in the regular season.

Speaker 4 (01:27:38):
This talk, you're talking about Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
Yeah, Cleveland number two, but it falls all the way
to seven to one.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
They're plus seven hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
Yeah, So that's a how we Pushland number two.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
I don't think I would either Knicks or three plus
seven fast.

Speaker 4 (01:27:52):
That's what I thought it was gonna be number two.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
Yeah, and they still got.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
I put Cleveland like in six or seven.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Man, Like, well, you know now that the problem is
the Halliburton and the Tatum injury pretty much knock to
Eastern teams down the pecking order a month to five
Rockets that's where I would have them.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
Rockets are fourth.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
At plus eight fifteen, and I actually I think I
would still have Cleveland ahead of Houston even after the
KD have I would.

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
Have Houston ahead of the Knicks, honestly, like, I think
KD is going to give them that offense that they do.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
So they were a two seed in the in the
in the West backed West last year.

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
They are not to be slept.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
On, and their defense is good and they just needed
to score a pure score.

Speaker 4 (01:28:38):
And they got it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
So like, I don't know, I think Houston is going
to be a problem next year. And they only they
they're doing a win. Now they're doing they want to
win now, you know, they know what KD.

Speaker 4 (01:28:51):
They got two years.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
Yeah, they just sort their window from five for six years.

Speaker 1 (01:28:56):
To cry until until Winby comes along and are rookies
get a little older. Okay, so he's going to be
better like they got two years.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
Number one pick in the draft is also in the division.
I mean, the Southwest is insane. Trustin Nico with Houston,
Oklahoma City Houston the two best teams in the Westlahoma
and then Dallas and San Antonio just got the top
two picks in the draft. It just absolutely speaking those
Dallas is twenty two to one with the Spurs kind

(01:29:28):
of like I don't think they should be much higher
than this, but compared to the teams, they are one
hundred to one. But these are the other teams that
are one hundred to one, which is kind of the
crazy thing to me Toronto get them, Atlanta and Memphis
the Memphis one. I think San Antonio and Memphis should
both both be like eighty eighty eighty five to one

(01:29:51):
and ahead of Atlanta and Toronto. But yeah, I mean
Memphis still has triple j and jaw and San Antonio
is about to get Wemby back healthy with.

Speaker 1 (01:29:59):
I need give me some of those like early numbers
for like win total, because I still like forty five.
I wonder how much I get back because I think
we think we're gonna get forty five wins.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
I I think you could well, I'll tell you now,
Vegas does not agree with you just looking at these listing.

Speaker 3 (01:30:16):
We don't have the absolute.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
Yeah, they've never they've never been known to make money
off of people making bad bets.

Speaker 4 (01:30:23):
No, Vegas is always on.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
No, We'll definitely keep an eye because I love I
love looking at the preseason over unders like that, because
I mean I had it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
I think my draft Dylan Harper gonna shoot up to
like eighty to one.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
So I think these odds are with the assumption that
Dallas takes Cooper Flag and San Antonio takes Dylan Harper,
because the draft really starts after the second pick, because
the third pick is where there's your first kind of dude,
your boy nipple con is shooting up the draft boards

(01:30:58):
we have. He's a well multiple mocks have him going fourth.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
All of a sudden, I know it's crazy, I'm telling
you that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
In this draft, I don't think there's any way he
should be higher than seventh, and he's shooting up draft.

Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
Because there is a need for that dog to get rebounds,
like a hardened stein, like a Steven Adams, just.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
Dead eyes shooting like we're not with size, we don't
need you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
Just like put do some putbacks up there, you know
what I'm saying. But you stay down low and bang
and grab those offensive rebounds and stuff like that. Defensive rebounds.

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
There is a need for that, and I think a
lot of GM's are taking notice on that. Yeah, it
just feels like in a draft that is potentially this
deep with talent like it is, it feels like a nipple,
you're settling for something that's more of a sure thing,
Like he might not be the top end potential of

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guys that are drafted behind him.

Speaker 4 (01:31:56):
His floor is high ceilings not.

Speaker 3 (01:31:59):
As high as other Exactly exactly what you get well.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
And the team that potentially would be getting that would
be Charlotte, a team that needs like, we just need players, man,
like we can't take we can't keep taking risks from
We'll give you high potential guys.

Speaker 3 (01:32:13):
Pigs Man, you do love your nipple.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
I'd get on the couple of other NBA final fun
facts on the achilles tear injury. From nineteen ninety to
twenty twenty three, there were forty five achilles tears Wow,
suffered by NBA players, and we got three of them,
three in the playoffs, but eight in the last year alone,

(01:32:41):
all total.

Speaker 4 (01:32:42):
That's gotta be.

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
And another one of the in a draft prospect that
was not one of the big big names, but a
potential late first early second round guy, he tore his
achilles while he was working out in San Antonio last week.

Speaker 1 (01:32:57):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:32:58):
Yeah, So like we I don't know. I would love
to hear maybe someone whose.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
I don't know because it doesn't like I said, I'm
not prepared to say, like we have a way, we.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
Need to get one of these nerds on it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:14):
That's exactly what we need. Need Some sports scientists don't
get me.

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
Don't give me stats, give me the reason why these
players are getting injured.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
You know, there's got to be something to it. And
I don't think it's it's I don't think it's game
like the season schedule, because we didn't see it. These
games have been eight the season has been eighty two
games for.

Speaker 1 (01:33:33):
Well as as you just showed, uh the wife roommate,
what nineteen ninety six game look like versus what today's
game look like. Faster, fast, like faster slower. Yeah, you
know what I'm saying. So there's gonna be more injury. Yeah,
there wasn't cutting, cutting, you know, put off screens.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
That's where you're getting You're getting onto something with the
you know, just the more violent cutting and and explosiveness.

Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
Of it exactly because it's all pick and rolls. Yeah,
like you have to, like, I mean, what seventy teams.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
Start and stop explode towards the towards the rim.

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
I mean, we're going to be playing pick and roll,
you know, offense heavily.

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
Oh yeah, as you should with we should with the
personnel available to.

Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
The game itself.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
Also on the injury, ESPN, if you're gonna tell me
how bad the injury is, and oh that's just so
difficult to watch, but now we're gonna show it to
you ninety four or more times, like unnecessary, unnecessary.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
You knew what the NA was.

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
Just slamming the ground like, I don't know, we don't
need any of that, We don't need any of that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
But again NBA does not. The NFL is a little
bit better with that. They like show it once, They're like,
all right, we don't need to see that again.

Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
I think they've gotten better and especially honestly, ever since
Joe and Troy saw a guy die on the field. Yeah,
I kind of think the the whole league has taken
a bit of a different approach to like, these these
are people, yeah, exactly, And ESPN it's it's just pieces
on a board game. But Game seven, it was the
most watched NBA Finals game in six years. Average sixteen

(01:35:16):
and a half million, got peaked over nineteen million at
one point there in the second half.

Speaker 1 (01:35:24):
Caliburn, and that would have been a great, great duel, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
Yeah, And it kind of dispels the like, if you're
putting a good product in front of people, yeah, they're
gonna watch, they're gonna watch, they're gonna watch. And the
six years you know six years ago, we're now we're
now looking at seven different NBA champions in the last
seven years, which there's been a lot of you know,

(01:35:50):
a lot of concern I guess among you know NBA
analysts that you know this parody is.

Speaker 1 (01:35:58):
I think I've been hearing like there's no like rivalries anymore,
like you know, they want to make rivals like you know,
like you can make rivals. Though, Yeah, that's got a ogell.
That was a good series. I mean now I'm saying like,
like I think it's going to be the old school
rivals coming again. But you know it's like win's the

(01:36:19):
Bulls and Pistons got relevant a little bit this year.
But if the Bulls relevant, you got the Bulls Pistons.
You know what I'm saying. That's a rivalry New York
and Bulls. You know, Bulls just need to get better.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
It's embarrassing that, you know, in a city as big
as Chicago, like that should be an anchor of NBA
uh NBA teams. But the you know seven different that
goes back to when Toronto beat Golden State. When Kawhi
is one year in Toronto stops the Golden State three peat,
Kevin Durant tears his achilles or ushers his achilles, And

(01:36:57):
since then we've had Lakers, Bucks, Warriors, Nugget, Celtics, Thunder.
And I mean, as much as Vegas says Oklahoma City
is gonna repeat, I just kind of think the the
parody of the league is going to be we might
we might go ten straight years with ten different winners.

(01:37:19):
As it's shaken out, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
Especially when an injury can just like sit there and
derail you exactly as much as like a Boston Like
Boston could have been been the one this year if Tatum,
because they were going absolutely Tatum was going absolutely crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
Well, and Boston's odds to repeat at the beginning of
the year where not, as it wasn't as much of
a gap as Oklahoma City has this year, but Boston
was clearly the Vegas favorite to win it at the
beginning of the year.

Speaker 6 (01:37:48):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:37:48):
The only other thing I had I like to do
this because I'm just an old school radio nerd. The
Oklahoma City Radio broadcast is their play by play is
a guy named Matt Pento And that might be a
familiar name to some, he for me, he was spelled
the same way he was the MAVs radio play by

(01:38:11):
play guy from ninety seven to one, and then you know,
while I was in high school growing up in North Texas,
he was our bill Land. He was the TV guy
from like one to five or six. Eventually ends up
with the team in Seattle. And he's another one like
Presty who's been there. He survived the move from the

(01:38:34):
Pacific Northwest to the Heartland, has been with the Thunder
ever since they became the Thunder. And it's always cool
to me when a guy like that, he had, he's
bounced around. He's been with the Hornets in the nineties
when when the Hornets were America's favorite NBA team in
the nineties with you know, Zoe and Muggsy and LJ.

(01:38:57):
He was there play by play guy. He was I
think he spent a couple of years with the Clippers maybe,
but you know, and he's been in Oklahoma City now
fifteen sixteen years and uh, last night, to see a
guy like as a radio nerd, to see a guy
get to make a championship call to a radio aud

(01:39:19):
it's so different than TV because the TV it's national,
it's it's Mike Breen and Doris Burt talking these guys.
They parked their hearts out, Mike, you know, it's it's
just that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
So I I found the call from Pento last night
and it is it's just local. I think that's the
cool thing about it. It's for his fans, not for
the national audience.

Speaker 1 (01:39:47):
You got that LG thunder bends feel this moment.

Speaker 9 (01:40:01):
The uncommon young team proved to be unstoppable. It's over
at Pickom Center Final.

Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
In Game seven, the Thunder.

Speaker 9 (01:40:11):
One O three the Pacers ninety one, a dream realized.
The storybook season is complete. The finals chapter reads, the
Oklahoma City Thunder of the twenty twenty five NBA.

Speaker 1 (01:40:24):
Champions say He's cut down, sad.

Speaker 9 (01:40:28):
Party, Hardy, your Thunder undeniably the best in basketball in
twenty four to twenty five, storming through the league with
incredible domination, offering an epic season for the Age Toe
and winning an epic.

Speaker 1 (01:40:42):
NBA Finals for the Ages.

Speaker 9 (01:40:44):
In Game seven, one O three, ninety one, the Pacers
the final to fall as this monumental moment seventeen seasons
in the making. Okase, he has seen it through to
wear the crown treasure, this shash, This the Oklahoma City
Thunder are the twenty twenty five NBA champions.

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
Party Hardy, Party, Hardy.

Speaker 3 (01:41:10):
We have stormed through the league in the Thunder.

Speaker 1 (01:41:15):
Look.

Speaker 3 (01:41:15):
I know it's cheesy, but there's something. There's something about
hearing your guy.

Speaker 2 (01:41:22):
Do the call, by hearing your local voice celebrate your championship,
because it does. I mean, it feels like he's one
of he's he's one of us, he's one of you,
he's one of you know, actual fan.

Speaker 1 (01:41:33):
It's like the old Yankees announcer where Derek Jeter still
had him after he passed away a thousand percent. Still
let him make a call and come into the plate,
number number two, Derek Jeters exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
You just want to hear you, just want to hear
your your local guy. Yeah, celebrate with you.

Speaker 1 (01:41:52):
We'll talk.

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
We'll talk more of the KD trade Wednesday night, because
oddly it's.

Speaker 1 (01:41:59):
Won.

Speaker 3 (01:41:59):
The first thought I had when I read the return package,
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:42:03):
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:42:04):
I didn't read the return.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
Okay, So Jalen Green, who think what you will about him?
He's a young, developing player, but it seems like Houston
had seen enough of him and were ready. They drafted
Reed Shepherd last year and he was in the G
League all years?

Speaker 4 (01:42:21):
Is he like the like the shit starter.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
No, that's that's the other guy they traded Dylan Brooks.
Dylan brook Yeah, so they gave up Brooks as well Green.
They'll replaced with Shephard and they got a men Thompson
that's gonna take those minutes anyway. I think they were
just kind of done with the Green experiments.

Speaker 1 (01:42:37):
Somebody like Brooks can like just turn your team into dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:42:41):
Oh, Brooks is on a on a bad Phoenix team
next year, like Devin Booker or yeah, Devin Booker, him
and Brooks probably are going Jordan Poole Draymond in the
preseason if Brooks hasn't moved on. But not only do
you give up Jalen and then Dylan Brooks to match
the salary, but they gave up the number ten pick

(01:43:02):
in this draft, So they did the equivalent of if
the Spurs had made the deal, it would have been
like so hand Barns and the number twelve pick, And
that just seems like even for Houston trying to make
that leap.

Speaker 1 (01:43:18):
No, we have fourteen or do we have twelve? I
thought we have fourteen.

Speaker 2 (01:43:22):
We're yeah, we're fourteen. I keep thinking twelve because of
a Jada Jaylen Williams. But yeah, to give up a
top ten pick in this loaded draft, plus a young
yea offensive minded.

Speaker 1 (01:43:35):
They wanted one of our bigs. They wanted they wanted
a castle, They wanted.

Speaker 2 (01:43:40):
A and five future second round picks, which okay, I
mean that's just that's just the Phoenix GM saying.

Speaker 1 (01:43:46):
Look, dude, you gotta give me, You gotta give.

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
Me a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
Just give me a bunch of second round picks.

Speaker 1 (01:43:51):
So it looks like, hey, I got five of them exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:43:54):
One of these will become our Jokic.

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
We have eighteen picks coming up in the next exactly, but.

Speaker 3 (01:44:01):
They're all crappy second round picks.

Speaker 4 (01:44:03):
But we'll talk.

Speaker 1 (01:44:04):
I guess we'll talk more about that because I'm curious
to see. I want to see how that plays out
on the tenth.

Speaker 2 (01:44:09):
I want to see who's available at ten, to see
who Houston could have potentially gotten. I mean, they got Durant, Durant.

Speaker 1 (01:44:16):
Is maybe mister Nipple.

Speaker 2 (01:44:18):
Yeah, dude, as crazy as it sounds, I don't think
he's fallen that far.

Speaker 1 (01:44:23):
I as always LG, let's do a little.

Speaker 2 (01:44:26):
Lightning round before we get out of here. Give you
mentioned it a little bit earlier. We did get another
national champion from the College Drinks. LSU wins their second
in three years in Omaha. Man, that's a blue blood
program right there.

Speaker 1 (01:44:44):
You know, I didn't know Coastal Carolina like they've been
there before recently.

Speaker 3 (01:44:49):
Like I go, yeah, they're a great mid major. Yeah,
and they had won twenty six straight games.

Speaker 2 (01:44:54):
Yeah before LSU. And but for the over over eager umpire, Yeah,
that was ridiculous. That was ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:45:03):
Coss whatever he said, Hey, coach, he was asking for
the pitch count and that was it. And then they
just he was like, hold on, I'm trying to get
to it. And then he's like, yo, I'm just asking
the pitch. Don't sit there and turn to me like
I'm doing something wrong. And it was it was it
was he was mad over something with the first base

(01:45:24):
like him in the first base coach got into it
on something else and it was just like he was like, man,
you're already starting it, blah blah blah, and like to
toss out a coach in the finals in the first inning,
I don't care. You give them the rope you give
them the rope, you stop paying attention to him.

Speaker 3 (01:45:43):
Yeah, this could be this.

Speaker 2 (01:45:46):
This is how easy an umpire can squash it. Just
turn away, Just turn away, and you can still hear him,
but act like you don't. But that requires a grown
ass man swallowing his ego, like, oh my god forbid.
Also the the two game suspension that carries over into

(01:46:07):
next year because he pushed, he bumped an umpire just
because that fat can't stand on his own feet.

Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
Yeah, the picture I saw over the feet or just
in the air like on prominent.

Speaker 4 (01:46:22):
Like play it off.

Speaker 3 (01:46:22):
Yeah, that's embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (01:46:26):
Yeah, they run the manager and the first base coach
in the first inning and that just kind of felt
like but you'll be happy to know LSU they didn't
break their old jello shot record, but they hit the
LSU fans bought over fifty thousand yello shots in Omaha
this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:46:47):
There's a lot of sugar and hangover.

Speaker 2 (01:46:49):
Yeah that's nothing, but they're they're sec though, they can
handle that.

Speaker 4 (01:46:53):
They're built for give me a hurricane.

Speaker 2 (01:46:55):
Yeah, they're built for ten am jello shots.

Speaker 1 (01:46:59):
DLG, I'd buy that front dollars. All right, we got
a major major retirement news.

Speaker 4 (01:47:09):
Sweet John Jones, the best to every You.

Speaker 1 (01:47:11):
Brought this up.

Speaker 3 (01:47:12):
I had this sent to me by one of our
UFC fans.

Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
Yeah, yes, yeah, thank you, he said. He was like,
put this in the show, and I was like, I'm wrong,
I'm right there on it with you, man. But he
retired so he will not be facing Tom Aspinall for
the heavyweight championship. He is now the heavyweight Championship, and
he two days later is now facing legal troubles once

(01:47:36):
again from a February accident where he was drunk and
ran from the scene.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
Well that's unfortunately, and you say again done before down
this road to metaphorically, like I said, allegedly, if you
run from the scene and crack a beer you were
not you can't get a d w I because.

Speaker 4 (01:47:56):
They don't know when you had the beer.

Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
The allegedly So it's not like I've ever done this
of my twenty thousand friends.

Speaker 2 (01:48:06):
Alleged non legal advice here from the sports case.

Speaker 4 (01:48:09):
You know, or my bartenders and everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:48:12):
That we say, when was the fight supposed to happen?

Speaker 1 (01:48:15):
Uh? There they were looking for June. Oh so but
like it kept getting pushed back and back because they
wanted to do they wanted to do like either a July,
end of July, they usually do a big fight like
at the end of the July or into June or May.
And like that's the way it started with the May,
like in the beginning of May. That's usually a huge
fight coming in. And he kept getting pushed back and

(01:48:36):
pushed back, and I blame. I cannot stand Dana White.
And it's not politics, not any of.

Speaker 2 (01:48:43):
This stuff, espousal saligation. It's just a dick man that
makes him money.

Speaker 1 (01:48:52):
Yeah, these he's.

Speaker 3 (01:48:53):
Being a dick is profitable these days.

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
Like he's like the Emperor of the UFC where he
doesn't give these guys any kind of health benefits. You'll get, yes,
if you get hurt while fighting, he'll take care of it,
but not any of the after treatments or any of this.
And it's like, dude, these guys are ten ninety nine,
Like some of my workers that I go at my restaurant,

(01:49:17):
like these kids, Like, yeah, that's ridiculous. This is ridiculous.
This is professional sports. Theres needs to be a players
there needs to be a fighters union, and it needs
to have Like but Dana White is crushing it like
the union buster Reagan or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:49:34):
Dude, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:49:35):
Yeah, it doesn't feel like it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:37):
It's one of those deals where he can't have He's
not making money without the fighters, but it takes ex
massive coordination amongst the fighters to have any kind of union.

Speaker 1 (01:49:48):
The only personation, the only person to ever get over
on Dana White, and I think this is where he
swore he never have it again, was Connor Don McGregor,
because he was like, I want a piece of the
uh the watch McCall I was like, I want.

Speaker 4 (01:50:02):
A piece of the pay per views.

Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
He's like, however much money you're gonna make on the
pay per views, He's like, I want my share, And
if we're making that money because of me, I'm gonna
get a hefty share.

Speaker 4 (01:50:15):
And you're gonna get You're gonna get like a manager's cut.

Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
It's almost like Dana White has just been like the
like universities profiting off of the football players, and he
kind of feels like we're gett like how does how
do college football players now have more legal rights to
equal pay or equal cuts of the profits?

Speaker 3 (01:50:36):
Then grown UFC.

Speaker 1 (01:50:39):
Fighters that speak out about Francis Niganu was a big name.

Speaker 2 (01:50:44):
Remember that name, Yeah, big guy, heavyweight.

Speaker 1 (01:50:46):
Yeah right, guy was Nigerian or something Nigerian. Yeah, he
worked in the He worked at the dirt mines and
stuff as a kid. I remember, you know, is my
biggest blind spot. Crazy story, Like, he was one of
the biggest names. And he fired him because he wanted union.

Speaker 2 (01:51:03):
That's why I haven't hurt.

Speaker 4 (01:51:04):
And he was like he's like he were.

Speaker 1 (01:51:06):
The UFC is bigger than this guy. He has killed
so many good fights. Because the fighters starts speaking up
on union and being like, we want health benefits when
we're training. We want you to pay if we get
hurt during training. You know, I'm training to fight for you.
But like, if you get hurt during training, you lose
the contract.

Speaker 4 (01:51:27):
That you about had.

Speaker 1 (01:51:28):
You don't get to put insurance on it, and you
have to pay your legal bills, you know, so your team,
the teams that they go to the gyms have to
take on that legal cost. F you, Dana White, Well,
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:51:43):
He wants to promote this and we'll now there's something
that I don't I wouldn't take that money. Yeah, I
I don't keep up with it. Enough to understand the
inner like inner workings of the See fight. It feels
like there's some common ground that could be found there.

Speaker 1 (01:52:02):
This fight got killed because of Dana White. I have
full faith in this, not John Jones, like, oh, I
don't want to fight tom As. That is the baddest
man on the planet. He has proven time and time
again that he is that man. And you think he's
scared of tom asbaitall, even though as great as he

(01:52:23):
is in his prime, he's taking out everybody in their prime.
This man stepped up to anybody and you're telling me, he, oh,
you just didn't want to fight him. No, Dana White
was a greedy little bastard. I'm done.

Speaker 2 (01:52:44):
I love it when someone talks so passionately about something
I don't know jack shit about.

Speaker 1 (01:52:50):
So I'm just like, aah, yeah, that's Dana White. I'm
with you. That's exactly right.

Speaker 7 (01:52:56):
The redneck in me comes out like, well, if you're
this passionate about it, must be r on board.

Speaker 1 (01:53:02):
Have full support from this.

Speaker 3 (01:53:03):
Side of the table.

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
A couple of other before we get before we close
out with some uh some video here. I had some
local trying to kind of weave in some local news
in the lightning round. Uh, So I went, I saw
this headline, and this is something that meant absolutely nothing
to me, But it sounds like it seems like it's

(01:53:29):
a fairly big deal for our city. Godfather's Pizza. Does
that do anything for either of you born and raised
San Antonians?

Speaker 1 (01:53:39):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:53:39):
Apparently it was real, real big in the eighties, so
it might have still been just like right before I.

Speaker 1 (01:53:46):
Thought it was. I thought it was wise guys might speak,
but it visit the eighties, No, because the mother the
family didn't come down till like late nineties or early
two thousands.

Speaker 4 (01:53:57):
But I heard of Godfather's Pizza.

Speaker 1 (01:54:00):
I never was like, I was too young probably to
like be like oh, because my family was still little
Caesars and all the main chains. I think, well, we
never ventured.

Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
That's what killed Godfathers apparently, because they had, like I
was reading, like up to almost twenty different locations here locally,
and then they all closed down by the late eighties.
But long story short, there's a new one opening far
like one f one just outside of four ten over
on the west side. Uh and then in my part

(01:54:33):
of town this weekend. This is becoming a new trend.
Where uh anytime. No, No, not not as fun as
that anytime. The uh there's violence outside of a bar,
because my neighborhood is now it's I wouldn't say it's
as popular as the strip, but I mean the the

(01:54:56):
run of bars with like Bentley, Bar, House, bur Listen,
box Car all b names actually now that I think
about it, but all kind of in a you know,
a two block radius of each other. You've got just
way more people.

Speaker 1 (01:55:12):
That's a far that's a far away from SB Ceasoning.
Now the like Bentley in SB Csoner, that's like eighteen blocks.

Speaker 3 (01:55:22):
No, there's Bentley's by there's two Bentley's.

Speaker 2 (01:55:24):
There's one at the end of Broadway, and then there's
one smack downtown by my house right there on Alamos Street.
And it was the one on Alamo Street that had
had some had some violence pop off there min or
might not be another shooting outside of.

Speaker 1 (01:55:45):
The bar surprise that turned deadly.

Speaker 2 (01:55:48):
And this is the problem because it's not the strip
where it's you know a bunch of college kids that
are fighting each other doing whatever. No, these are like
people our age that are like, okay, f you, I'm
I'm pulling a gun but the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:56:01):
That's like when you got a bad back and if
they have three people running up on me. Man, I
was like, Man, back in the day, I'd be like,
let's go, but nah, I'm gonna have to I'm gonna
have to pull out a gun.

Speaker 3 (01:56:12):
Yeah at this at this point, but I was like,
I shoot him in the leg. Oh yeah, I'll spare
you the kill shot in the leg.

Speaker 4 (01:56:22):
You're gonna have to shoot me.

Speaker 3 (01:56:27):
This is the same Bentley's. It's always in trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:56:29):
They're always getting hit with uh, like the one on
Broadway is always getting hit with sound complaints and this
one they there was that video that went pretty viral
of a brawl that was like twenty people out in
front of it a couple of months ago.

Speaker 3 (01:56:45):
But my favorite what keeps happening to this anytime?

Speaker 9 (01:56:49):
There?

Speaker 2 (01:56:49):
Because there was another shooting outside of a bar called
Hangtime right there, and as soon as it happens, the
bars released a statement that sounds something like this. First
of all, we're really really sorry for the loss of
life and the family and friends the individual left behind.
We are deeply troubled by this rising crime and violence

(01:57:11):
in our society.

Speaker 7 (01:57:13):
But reports that he was shot in our bar are
absolutely inaccurate, and I stopped spreading misinformation or we will
sue you. It's like, whoa, I thought we were concerned
about the shooting victim.

Speaker 1 (01:57:26):
And then.

Speaker 3 (01:57:29):
That's exactly what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:57:30):
But Bentley's had one out within an hour of the shooting.

Speaker 1 (01:57:33):
It was like.

Speaker 2 (01:57:34):
Reports of a shooting at our bar is misinformation, fake.

Speaker 1 (01:57:38):
News, and the parking lot is like we did our job.
We kicked them out, like yeah, and that's that's the
trouble of Like like what am I supposed to do
after that? Walk them to their car? Exactly like the.

Speaker 3 (01:57:52):
Starting they were starting to pop off in the bar.
We kicked them out. What what else do you want
us to do?

Speaker 7 (01:57:58):
It?

Speaker 1 (01:57:58):
As a former bouncer for many year, you get him
out the bar, You hold the line. That's all it is.
It's like, this is the line go you know what
I'm saying, and the line is at the bar.

Speaker 2 (01:58:10):
They start walking the car and they start walking back.
Everybody get inside, yep, bunker down, boys, hit me LG.
I got one more before I let you close this
out by now this uh, I will mention shout out
to Abbott for at least for now saving th HC.

(01:58:30):
We'll see. I don't think any of us partake in
the the fake weed that is available legally in the.

Speaker 4 (01:58:38):
Dispensaries, but we'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:58:41):
We're keeping an eye on that because he also added
it to the special session, So we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
But as a quote, he stands with Trump on the
Iran thing. Well, he's never gonna run again. So for governor,
I mean, he can't run again.

Speaker 4 (01:59:00):
The ass off a hill.

Speaker 2 (01:59:00):
Yeah, there's got to be well, or just retire and
leave politics to someone else, but preferably not a Maryland
that is, lieutenant governor. But no, I've got something we've
talked about a lot lately. The every day I forgot
to say today is National Detroit Style Pizza Day.

Speaker 1 (01:59:23):
Get through this.

Speaker 2 (01:59:23):
Every day is some bullshit, observants. Every month is a
celebration of something.

Speaker 1 (01:59:29):
Even though Detroit style pizza is pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:59:31):
Hey, Detroit Salt pizzas, w it's really good. Especially even anyway,
So over the weekend we had poor Chip carry on
the Saint Louis Cardinals broadcast. The Cardinals are doing a
giveaway for disability Pride Night. They are doing a giveaway

(01:59:55):
for an upcoming game that they have labeled Disability Pride Night.

Speaker 1 (02:00:02):
Good to bring awareness, Good to bring awareness?

Speaker 2 (02:00:05):
Well, awareness is great, but Chip and might have seen
his life flash before his eyes. You have that LG.

Speaker 6 (02:00:15):
Disability Pride Night is Thursday, July tenth and with a
themed ticket. Fans take home a Cardinals cat featuring the
Disability Pride flag flag and Cardinals in braille details at
Cardinals dot com slash theme count the silence.

Speaker 2 (02:00:30):
Oh, there's a pitch lead that one.

Speaker 3 (02:01:03):
Even even when he comes back in that was Michael Jordan.

Speaker 2 (02:01:07):
That was seconds. I think by count, you have a
slow count. I think by count it's like thirty four seconds,
thirty thirty one, thirty three seconds of silence. Well, it's
on the video. That's why I was cheating the UH
And even when he does get back on Mike, it
sounds like he can barely keep it together, probably because
all of those dudes were just holding the dump button

(02:01:30):
down as they're loose exactly you getting I am now
like probably talking to the producer in no way, shape
or form.

Speaker 4 (02:01:38):
I going down for this guy.

Speaker 1 (02:01:41):
Shed again.

Speaker 2 (02:01:42):
Yeah, we had a we had a real thomb Brenneman,
but at least like if you're asking him to read
a disability Pride Night flag flag giveaway. You kind of
have to know the potential is flag like, because then
you think about it too, and then you have the flag.

Speaker 3 (02:02:07):
Oh god, I go I just said that. All right,
hit me, OLG closes us out, KEP.

Speaker 1 (02:02:11):
All right, dude, Yeah, speaking of I was taking a
drink of water. Speaking of someone who might need a
disability flag is my and uh. We ran into an
old friend of ours who likes to arm wrestle, and

(02:02:34):
she's been doing great. She's been on a weight Lives program.
She is kicking ass. Good friend, Erica. Doubt she listens
to the show, but she is. She's a supporter, she's
a subscriber thanks to me.

Speaker 2 (02:02:47):
And one of your gorilla marketing Hell yeah, hell her
whole family.

Speaker 1 (02:02:53):
Before you play this.

Speaker 2 (02:02:54):
First of all, I could tell she was really into
arm wrestling, and that was my first concern.

Speaker 3 (02:03:00):
Yeah, because well, no.

Speaker 1 (02:03:03):
She was just she's been getting he was not armed.

Speaker 3 (02:03:07):
There's no leverage.

Speaker 1 (02:03:08):
But you have six foot, you have a white sir,
you have a white rumma.

Speaker 4 (02:03:12):
Sure you buck you buck up.

Speaker 3 (02:03:15):
I guarantee there are more women out there than I
would care.

Speaker 2 (02:03:19):
To admit that would dominate me.

Speaker 1 (02:03:20):
At all.

Speaker 2 (02:03:21):
I just don't have to.

Speaker 4 (02:03:22):
I don't have There's not a woman out there beat me.

Speaker 1 (02:03:25):
Well, sure you, this is not that. We are not
the same.

Speaker 2 (02:03:29):
I'm a martian.

Speaker 1 (02:03:32):
So he walks by and he's like, hey, you remember
that girl that one to arm wrestle me. She almost
broke my thumb and blah blah blah. And I turned around.
I'm like, Eric, you just break Puma's thumb.

Speaker 2 (02:03:44):
And Puma just goes in like, ah, why did you
like yeah, because at that point I realized I was
about to have to arm wrestle the girl, and I.

Speaker 4 (02:03:52):
Was like, hey, I think he's down to arm wrestling now.

Speaker 1 (02:03:56):
So therefore we get the match that we wanted, and
I think we might have some live action cue.

Speaker 3 (02:04:03):
Yeah, because you took video.

Speaker 2 (02:04:05):
Of course, we couldn't just let me potentially lose my
dignity for no one to see except us at the bar.

Speaker 1 (02:04:12):
I got a flag for you. At the end of this.

Speaker 4 (02:04:16):
We queue up there, l G.

Speaker 2 (02:04:21):
No look look like she tries to she in the beginning,
she gets like, yeah, she gets her on real clothes.

Speaker 3 (02:04:25):
I'm glad you caught it because I wouldn't have even known.

Speaker 4 (02:04:32):
Look at these excuses already.

Speaker 3 (02:04:35):
There were some liquid excuses that were also at play.

Speaker 1 (02:04:42):
She's only strong, she's only strong man. Boom, you are struggling, sir,
you were dude.

Speaker 2 (02:04:50):
This was the moment, This was the moment of real concern.
At this point, I'm starting to think, like, Okay, I
just got to outlast her because she's gonna lose muscle
little faster than I am, a little strength faster, So
I just got to hold it until I can throw
it down.

Speaker 3 (02:05:06):
Because it was like that was not a bit like.

Speaker 1 (02:05:09):
That he was.

Speaker 4 (02:05:10):
He was strength, he was straining. He texted me his
arm hurt the next day.

Speaker 3 (02:05:14):
It didn't feel good.

Speaker 1 (02:05:15):
I didn't feel good. The first arm wrestled.

Speaker 2 (02:05:17):
The last time I got the last time I arm
wrestled anybody was a buddy's bachelor party when we were
all wasted, like ten years ago.

Speaker 4 (02:05:24):
Oh and then I don't know if you coe cute up.

Speaker 1 (02:05:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:05:27):
Puma got the video, but she goes and sits there
and be like, I'll arm wrestle you.

Speaker 1 (02:05:31):
I'll do better, and I'm like, no, you won't. And
that went about how long?

Speaker 2 (02:05:37):
How long that one got I would say probably a
less than three seconds, about half a second. Okay, I
destroyed it.

Speaker 1 (02:05:44):
I destroyed her like I should, like you should. No,
you know you need you need to put her in
the ground. No, no, no, your dominance.

Speaker 2 (02:05:52):
I believe in equality. I was trying to build it.

Speaker 1 (02:05:55):
I picked on the table.

Speaker 3 (02:05:56):
I could tell she had.

Speaker 2 (02:05:57):
Done a lot of work to get to that point,
and I would just trying to make sure we continue.

Speaker 4 (02:06:02):
The forward project with me too.

Speaker 2 (02:06:04):
I was like, yeah, there was genuine concern. I'm glad,
I'm glad we finally got to the arm wrestling video.
And on that note, LG, for the love of God,
get us out of here before I lose any more
of my dignity.

Speaker 1 (02:06:19):
If you want to follow along with me.

Speaker 2 (02:06:22):
X at Biggest Puma Instagram, Biggest Dot Puma.

Speaker 1 (02:06:26):
At Instagram, The Captain two one oh and still working
on that TikTok as.

Speaker 2 (02:06:32):
It's gonna be It's gonna be a work in progress
for years. As LGAR, please please please give us those
YouTube subbys. We are back Wednesday night, Super Excited Live
NBA Draft Show, eight o'clock Wednesday, till then You'll be good,
be safe, peace.

Speaker 1 (02:06:49):
Peace, kids. What do we say about drugs? All? Yeah,

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