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June 3, 2025 119 mins
In this jam-packed episode of The Sports Cave with Biggest Puma, Sam Freas and the crew return with stories, sports, and signature chaos. From nostalgic tales of teenage hair dye mishaps and DIY buzz cuts to the gritty rise of UTSA baseball, this episode blends humor, heart, and hard-hitting sports talk.

NBA Finals Preview: The guys break down the surprising Pacers vs. Thunder matchup, explore how Paul George inadvertently built both teams, and debate whether ESPN can preserve the magic of TNT’s legendary “Inside the NBA” crew. With the future of the iconic broadcast team in question, Sam reflects on what made the show so special and why its potential changes feels like the closing of a cultural chapter.

UTSA Baseball’s Cinderella Story: The Roadrunners sweep the Austin Regional, knocking out Texas in dramatic fashion. Sam shares the electric atmosphere of watching the comeback win in a local bar and reflects on what this means for San Antonio sports.

Concert Chaos: Sam recounts a hilariously tense standoff at a Drive-By Truckers show, complete with passive-aggressive serenading and strategic crowd maneuvering. Spoiler: it involves a tall guy and the unspoken rules of standing-room-only shows.

Ebaum’s Corner Debuts: The crew launches a new segment with a throwback to the golden age of gaming—remember calling the Nintendo Power hotline for help? You will now.

With sharp insights, laugh-out-loud moments, and a deep love for all things sports and culture, this episode captures everything that makes The Sports Cave a must-listen. Whether you’re here for the hoops, the haircuts, or the hot takes, there’s something for everyone in this one.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lie d Be, lie Be, lie bean line.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Ah light the Beam. Indeed, back for another Monday one
of these things. After the holiday week last week. Good
to be back in the room on a Monday night,
broadcasting live once again as always, from the northern hinterlands
of San Antonio, here where we find ourselves twenty three
days away now from the NBA Draft, where it feels

(00:36):
like the drama of the first two picks is all
but handled. But might I.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Feel like that's getting longer twenty three days? I thought
it was so much sooner.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Oh God, Well, is my math wrong?

Speaker 1 (00:48):
There's a possibility your math is good, But like I'm
just like, well.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'll tell you. It's funny you said that because my
math originally wasn't good because I was basing it off
of last week's episodes, and we didn't do a Monday
show last week, so I've just been copying, so you
lied toward No. No, No, I got them right. I
got it right last week. I almost got it wrong tonight.

(01:13):
But I'm almost positive we are twenty three days away
from the NBA Draft. That voice you hear as always
as the cap joining me in the room, as well
as the greatness that is LG from Parts unknown. That
always make me nervous to see if we have good connection,
especially when LG told me he had to take all
of his equipment to New bron Files for a job

(01:34):
this afternoon. LG, do you have me expect taculars?

Speaker 3 (01:40):
I'm cue everything's working.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Look at that pay job you got going on. Someone
get a haircut.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, shaved my own head because that's how I do it.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
God, I love y'all so much. That is spectacular. That
is so. That's another one of those things where like
when when when you compare, like there's no way that
someone born and raised in backwoods North Texas could happen
so much in common with a true South Texas Like no, actually,
just shave your own head, cut your own hair, shave

(02:13):
your own hair, like I grew up with the dog clippers,
having mind shaved every ever just to start every summer.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
During my hippie wild days with the one sweet Rob Watson. Uh,
if he's listening in old DMV area, he used to
cut his own hair like crazy style, like girl interrupted
and I would a reference, right, is a lot on it,
but like I did it myself too, and my mom

(02:41):
just beat the brakes off of me.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Man, Yeah, there is a time and a place. I
suppose there is a time and a place when it's
you and her that are.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
You okay, there's something going on in your life.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
She's like, you idiot. I think the only time I
ever really got the you idiot from my mom when
it came to hair is when I used, uh remember
son in? Oh? Yeah, so I went. We went to
six Flags one day and I just sprayed a crap
ton of son in and my it turned at orange.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
I looked like, so, so is this sposed Was that
supposed to like just uv protect?

Speaker 2 (03:13):
No, it's supposed to like naturally bleach it. And it
was in the time. This was like late nineties, so
everyone had the frosted tips and the puka shell necklaces.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
And I had the frosted tips.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Maybe maybe LG can remember this after my freshman year
in high school, when I came home for my dad's
with jet black hair, my man's night phase.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Maybe remember that.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Man, it was a short, short lived phase.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
But like I'm in, my dad was.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
A skinny captain back then.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
It wasn't a big captain. It was seventeen year old
captain skinny skinny Talk fifteen year old Thespian Captainian.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yes, I was.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
I was doing my rebellious but like I literally the
last day I'm there, my dad's I planned it out,
got the black hair.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Hair dye.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
I'm in the bathroom doing it, and I'm leaving the
next morning and I come out and my dad just
looks at me. He's like, you m effort. He's like,
your mom's gonna f and kill me.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
What did you do? Because it was.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Just just black, just jet And I had such bleached
blonde hair when I was a kid, and my mom
tried to bleach it out. I just bleached my roots.
So therefore, at one time I had my real hair color,
bleached hair color, and then jet black. But with my
skaters butt cut.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
I was about to say, I can only imagine what
that The only time we did we would do stupid
bits with our hair for playoff basketball, So it was yeah,
we were back in black one. I think that was
my junior year and we all bleached our black for
the playoffs. Yeah, flash forward. It didn't work. It didn't work.
But LG, while we have a good connection, why don't

(05:09):
you tell the good people how they can help us
out and where to subscribe here.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
You can help us out by subscribing to our YouTube
channel right there on your phone. Just scroll up a
little bit. There's a subscribe button. Press that button, hit
the thumbs up, hit the notification bell. That's what we
need the most right now is subscribers. If you want
to leave a tip, just the tip, but you can
dip multiple times. Buy me at coffee dot com, slash

(05:33):
sports Cave Live.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
We're getting there.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
I like.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
I like what we're getting. Full dipping tip here. That
sounds like something you can order.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
You can double dip your tip, build something to.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Jones Orders on Harry Hines Boulevard up there in Dallas. Yeah,
I saw we're we're we're still moving up. What are
we up to? Like three thirty subscribers now steadily gaining
steady gains.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Do my part out there, man, gonna get there.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah. I love your gorilla marketing. That just grabbing people.
I saw it, and I saw it actually in person.
I did nice. I got to see and it's exactly
what it sounds like. It's like, give me your phone.
It's like, what the hell It's like, No, I promise it.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
You got YouTube all cool.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
I was like, I do a podcast, and like, oh
really I like to hear and I was like, well,
give me your phone.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
See this is this is a great thing. I have
long been accused of not being a good self promoter.
Uh So having cap just to commandeer people's phones in
public to get subscriptions, and having LG becoming a Twitch
streamer and all sorts of different wearing all sorts of

(06:43):
different hats in the streaming world. Now it's it's nice
to have y'all on board to continue to help build
this thing. As always, YouTube subscriptions perfectly absolutely free. They
just help us out in the long run. I shouldn't
spam up your your feed too much there, and uh
as always shout out to y'all audio listeners as well,

(07:06):
because again the the audio numbers are looking quite quite
good as well.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
That's why I listen to most of my podcasts in
the car on that audio.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
See. I like having the It's funny because we'll do
a little bit of table talk production here because you
know what we've been doing this Now we're starting our
second month, we're third month. We've had two full months
in the book. Now sitting here, first show of June,
we're starting We're about to hit those those long summer

(07:36):
months where it's it's ready for a lot of baseball.
I figure the e bombs corner idea will have a
lot more room to spread its legs when it's just
summer baseball taking up. But since we are starting our
third month here, I it's funny you say that because

(07:59):
they're you know, in first of all, I do a
lot of overthinking when it comes to any of this,
and I thank you all for putting up with it,
because it's a lot of let's try this, and then
if it fails the first time, I never want to
do it again. But a lot of the podcast I
listen to, it's the same way I could either watch

(08:20):
the video of the podcast or just listen to the
audio file. And I'm way more of an audio guy.
I default to, you know, like if it's Bill Simmons,
like I don't need to see Bill Simmons and Ryan
Rissillo on a live stream on stream yard, like just
give me the audios.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Like listen to Rogan and he's like, oh, watch this
clip and as Jamie pull it up or something, yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
See that's where you know, as we've been as we've
been doing the you know, the the dual video and
audio here. I feel like most of the content we're
putting out there, it's still mainly audio, mainly audio based.
You might there's a couple of times I think where
you might have you might miss something visual if you

(09:04):
don't watch the video. Get to that. We'll get to
that well well, the exploding the exploding well might just
end up being our Lindsey Buckingham. We'll get to We'll
get to Lindsey eventually. Uh, but we are I'm saying
this at eight o nine. I think we are actually

(09:25):
going to have our first installment of the Bomb's Corner
to close it out. So I don't know if it'll
be the well. Actually I can say pretty certainly it
won't be the will we'll leave the well. We'll leave
the well. You vagina as always, uh sant diego as always.

(09:46):
We start with a little weekend recap, and it's nice
to be back in here on Monday night. Uh So
it doesn't feel like we're doing a full week recap,
but a lot to get to uh from over the
wee I mentioned, you know, we're about to get to
the summer of Baseball Exclusive. But before that happened, it

(10:11):
just so happened. Last was that Thursday night when as
my Dallas Stars were being eliminated from the playoffs. I
was at least it was one of those It was
a yay boo moment because we talked about it on
the show Last Wednesday. I went and saw drive through

(10:32):
trucker drive by truckers I keep calling them drive through
drive by truckers at Pearl Stable last Thursday night.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
And what was what was your rating on it? Okay, yeah, yeah,
Because we talked about a star I was in the hayloft.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
I'll say this, the lady that had the one star
potentially based on racial preference. I didn't deal with that.
So I think I'm I'm probably fine that they thought
you with them well, that they always do trust me
until I open my mouth about It's like I agree
on one thing and then the next five they're like,

(11:09):
what the who the hell is this guy?

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (11:12):
But that's the beauty of it. That's why I love it.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
So you know, the bar lines were never long, that's
always a positive.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
The sound could be better, but it's an old.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Stable, so you're not gonna get a good Acota sound
is about a three, but the bar not never having
a line, and there's a lot of bars.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
It's not a real big venue. I think it was
only like six seven hundred people. Might that might have
even been over selling it, but I it's a solid
it's a three three, it's solid, it's nice, it's vintage.
It feels like the kind of venue for uh, the
exact place where it's located. Yeah, like it's a Pearl venue.

(11:55):
So and I'm sure they played it.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
I'm sure they played to the band that they're gonna
give their not gonna, you know, throw some heavy metal
band like the old White Rabbit Black Room.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
No, I don't think you're getting No, I don't think
you're gonna see Blood Brothers at the Pearl Stable. But uh,
it just feels like everything there is a little too
nice for me. It's more rugged.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
You wanted more head.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
I know, Look, I know, I know, I understand. It's
a weird thing to complain about, Like it's too okay
that plays that plays sick reference. Bro. Now, I when
I go to a concert, unless it's like like it's
if it's a big arena show, I understand, like if

(12:43):
it's Metallica at and T. It's performance, that's it's a
whole deal. I get it. Yeah, but most of the
shows I go to are more you know, club shows
or smaller venue shows, and for a venue that small,
you don't get some of that same intimacy as much
because it just feels real sterile, It feels real pearly.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Well they those smaller venues and stuff like that, and like, yeah,
I don't think it's as set up or planned.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
No, no, you get it was. I mean that the
show itself is intimate, but the experience doesn't really feel
like it. It would be like the venues not much
bigger than like Green Hall, but seeing them at Green
Hall or more of a honky tonk saloon type situation
would be better than seeing them in the the very

(13:36):
nice hoity toity you know, yeah, like you know, the
boss engraved bathroom handles because it's really nice.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
So it wasn't like all rednecks and everything like.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
We that's the problem. Yeah, No, there could have.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
There was some Chino's in there.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
You could have used it. Well, you know, you could
have used a little more. You could have used a
little more, uh maybe maybe lower lower wealth levels when
it came to planning out the experience economic level. It's
catered to rich people, is what I'm trying to say.
So but it was, it was fun, it was nice

(14:14):
and the gay boo of it. Steph bought the tickets
to the show without realizing that it was going to
be potentially Stars Elimination night, like she had bought the
tickets month a couple months in advance. That one. You
can't exactly unless you're a sicko like me who's projecting
out every single, every single playoff matchup.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Axes on the on the on the calendar. It'd be like,
this could happen, this could happen. I a two game
break not far off.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
She pretty much knows. Unless it's someone like the Truckers
that are just so high on my list, I'm gonna
be I'm going to be out on any idea of
missing a game.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
A little bit of last last week when I suggest said, hey,
you want to do a Tuesday and said the Memorial
Day Monday, and you're like, well, the Stars are playing.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Well, yeah, I couldn't do that. You couldn't do that,
But it's a yay boo because the Stars played so
poorly and they pulled Otter after what two goals in
the first seven minute, and then the backup comes in
immediately gives up a goal a minute later, and it's
and the season's over at that point. And luckily for
I know some of y'all appreciate the uh uh the

(15:27):
stars talk, but for a lot of y'all, uh you can't.
Don't expect to get much more hockey. We're not going
to go to in depth on the the Panthers oilers
rematch from last year. We'll give you, We'll give you
the scores. That's pretty much time hockey. Yeah, it's I
think hockey is now. Hockey will no longer be leading
the show. It'll be lightning around if at all at

(15:50):
this point because there's there's I.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Think I heard a universal cheer out there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
I was about to say, yeah, well, I'll tell you
one man who's cheering, Tim, which one was?

Speaker 1 (16:01):
It was?

Speaker 2 (16:01):
It? It was Tim McMahon that had did y'all catch
his comments about hockey and Texas on it was the
Hoop Collective podcast, the one he does with Wendy. He
just basically went off on how hockey's a new fangled
sport in Texas. And it's only only hipsters like it
clearly was just a guy trying to rile people up. Yeah,

(16:24):
but that's why we didn't even pull the audio to
play it.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
So he basically said, everyone's a bunch of idiots.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
They don't know football, baseball, or basketball, so they watch hockey.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
That is exactly what he said. Wow. Yeah, he said
that no people in Texas care about real sports, and
the idiots and hipsters care about hockey. So he was
going after the youth. That's pretty much it's old man
yelling at old man. But also to call the stars
new fangled like they've been there since they've been there
thirty years.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Like it's like, what what is Dallas new fangled Mavericks?

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Exactly? Like what is the what is the gap? Uh?
So there wasn't a lot of hockey to watch this weekend,
but with the venue's get okay, yeah I do have.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
I'll have.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
I have one story from you for the venue because
anytime we buy standing room only tickets, as much as
that's that's where I want to be. But I just
know there's fifty to fifty odds I'm gonna get into
some level of confrontation with somebody because I'm six foot four.
Oh yeah, it's just a given. It's like it's like

(17:31):
I already can't I walked into the I walk into
the venue and try to identify the guy that I
think is going to give me hell, and then stand
as far away from him as possible, like doing like
I'm doing like mac on it. So I'm doing visual
pat downs of everybody as I walk in to be like,
all right. So usually what I do, it's a thousand percent.

(17:53):
That's that's that's one thousand percent what was happening, And it's.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Usually female not want to stand next to you, That's.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Correct, and what you to be honest, what usually happens
is I try to find someone of similar height so
at least if I'm standing by them ever well, and
everyone around can obviously see. I don't want to stand
there because there's two tall people. If it's just one
tall person, they might That's.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Why I risk go with the back on the wall
type thing. I gotta have my back on the wall.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
So deer Tik was the opener, Actually there was another opener,
Thelma and the Sleeves, and then deer Tick. Deer Tick's great,
but during most of their set we stayed towards the back,
but as soon as the truckers go on, we're naturally
creeping forward. I'm going forward like I'm And at that point,

(18:47):
you're at a concert you bought standing room tickets, like I,
I don't know what to tell you, because now I
don't feel any responsibility. I gave you reprieve during the openers. Yeah,
I'm now going to get my money's worth for a
ticket that costs way more than So we walk up nothing,

(19:11):
no problems for the first few songs, and then a
guy behind me gives me the He's got a beer
can in one hand and gives me the kind of
tap like this on the back of my shoulder, trying
like trying to like like he's tapping on this one
to like scoot over a little bit, right. So I
look behind and there's no one to the like he
could scoot over, and so I just can't. I give

(19:33):
him one of these. I go that great band right
just giving the yeah, just wait. So Steph was wearing
a shirt that she had bought at the at the
merch stand, right yeah. So the next time he taps,
I literally I turned to her and I was like, yeah,
it's a great shirt, right. They have him at the

(19:53):
merch stand, and I'm just like yelling this to him
during the concert. So at this point he he takes
it upon himself to just walk around me, and instead
of standing in front of me, which wouldn't have done
a damn thing because he's not tall enough solve the problem,
he stands right in front of Steph. Oh my, yeah, yeah,

(20:15):
what exactly exactly. So now I'm having Now we're at
the we're at the level of mental processing where it's like,
I don't want to escalate this, but I'm not gonna
be disrespected like this either. And I know what you're
doing by standing specifically in front of her instead of me.
So now there's a level of like stuff is like,

(20:37):
are you not going to stand up for my honor? Like,
are you not going to like you gotta do something
about this, right, yeah, And so I gave him knock over,
the same little tap over. He doesn't turn around, he
doesn't acknowledge or anything. And at that point we just
swapped me and Steph swap place. So now I'm standing

(21:01):
right behind him and he's a good five inches He's
not six feet tall. He's probably five ten, five eleven.
Of course he does. That's what his His tender profile
says six to two ladies don't believe it. So at
that point, I know every word to all every song
that they play. They're one of my favorite bands, and

(21:22):
I'm normally not the guy that's going to sing loud
even though I know every word of the song. Can
you guess what I did the rest of the night
until he moved just right, buddy. It was like I
was serenading him tall Yeah. And at this point, I've
had I've had a couple double ranchies. I've had a

(21:42):
couple double ranch watered with good tequila. I'm feeling like
this is listen, there's something about this now. And so
I'm after about three songs of me scream singing in
his ear, he he got the picture of the Yeah,
he didn't want any confrontation.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Why would like what possesses someone that's like that's like
driving rules. It's like, no, I can scoot over and
go around you if I'm in the middle lane. I
get if you're in the left lane where you're supposed
to be passing, But someone's gonna get right up on
my butt, right up on the ass with the left
lane open and the right lane open. Oh yeah, and

(22:23):
it's like, there's no reason to get up. You want
me to move when you have two open lanes and
you're the one speeding.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Well of course, because that requires that allows them to
not have to do anything themselves. That's the that's the
that's the that one. Yeh, that's that's a that's a
great comp to it, because again, what do you want
me to do? I'm like, I'm a I'm a giant
compared to everyone in this room, Like I can't anywhere
I go. Yeah, I'm gonna be in front of somebody,

(22:53):
so help me. Help you.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Here's here's another good one. You get your fingers all
the way and then you just go and be like, oh,
I'm sorry about that.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah. Now now we're.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Where like the hay allergies, the hay is getting to me.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Oh what do they call that? What is that? Like
the bio where that's bio warfare at that point, biochemical.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
That's my go to move.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
When I'm on a plane and someone sticks their foot
like on the side, like and it's just like right.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
There, I'm like that you snikles all over the lake.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
I'll start start tickling their foot.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, that's a good move too, but then it involves you.
That means you have to touch a foot.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Hey man, hands are washable. As my mom always said
when I had to pick up leaves and there's dog booping.
There another words of wisdom. She's like, hands are washable.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, that's probably that's probably good words of wisdom. So yeah,
all in all, it was a It was a three night.
It was actually I'll give it a four because the
the band was awesome and the opener were good as well.
I saw our old friend rich O'Toole actually caught them

(24:07):
in Austin, I think it was last night and got
to relive some of the concert because he's a h
he puts everything out on social So yeah, it was
like a video of every song. So I sit there
and watched the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
He's the camera, he's he's the cell phone guy. Oh yeah,
I'm gonna look through the cell phone and not deal
with this concert whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
You know. The one thing I will say, the person
that at least posts it so the rest of us
can see it. That's better than because nine times out
of ten, when I see someone recording something at a concert.
My thought is always what are you? What are you
gonna do with that? Like are you right? And like
are if you're just thinking taking down? Doesn't that get
taken down on Facebook or usual? It's a public form, Yeah,

(24:49):
because it's yeah, because it's your experience.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Usually it's they gotta take your phones first, right, this
is not a recording event.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
I went to a movie in a comedy show like
that I want. Yeah, we did. When I worked at Aztec,
we had the Chappelle surprise pop up shows and then
they had they which is a massive headache for the
for a venue that doesn't normally do it, and especially
in San Antonio, just in Texas, trying to take away

(25:17):
someone's property like a phone. It didn't go over to it?
Who was it? Oh, it's exactly what but what if? Yeah?
But what if? I what if an emergency happens? You
can you can come check it every five minutes. Uh
Jack White's band, No, not Jack Black Jack White. Uh

(25:40):
White Stripes. Now the other one helped me out l
G seven Nation Army. Now that's the song. Uh the
one he did the Raconteurs did. Uh they did the
phone confiscation as well. But uh, Stars lost, but I
got to see one of my favorite bands, so yay
boo ya ya. The rest of the weekend, though, honestly,

(26:05):
it was surprisingly full of a lot of college baseball,
where obviously the news in our fair Burg is UTSA
sweeping the Austin Regional, not even dropping a single game.
It's pretty awesome, man, it's pretty awesome. So the last

(26:25):
time they had been in a regional, and they've been
the last three years they have been so so clol.
I think it was two years ago. There was a
lot of consideration basically saying that they were the first
team out of the tournament, like they were the proverbial
first team on the outside of the bubble, and they were,

(26:48):
you know, obviously playing in the conference they do. It's
pretty hard to get an a large bid. You have
to have a season like they had this year, the
forty four win regular season, so they get the get
the at large bid. They didn't win their conference tournament,
but they get stuck with the number two seed Texas

(27:08):
Long Garns Over in the Austin Regional, and damn it
if they didn't. I mean, it wasn't. It really wasn't.
The comeback win against Texas. The first game where I
think they got down it was six to one before
they came back to win nine to seven.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Owens was amazing.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Amazing, And I'll tell you it's it's really really cool.
Not to get over like over philosophical about it, but
Jeff Traylor talks about UTSA athletics being a front porch
of the university and as UTSA continues to grow, it's

(27:53):
the athletic achievements of you know, the women just had
their bet. The women's basketball team just had their best
year ever under in Austin. Yeah, were you know, had
a really crappy into the season how they played in
their conference tournament, but they're you know, the regular season,
it was the most wins they'd ever had. Obviously, we

(28:14):
know what Jeff's doing with the football program, the basketball program.
It's got some room to grow still, but they've they've
hired a dude that seems like he is of the
new generation of the new way of college basketball. But
UTSA baseball, like I said, had been knocking on that
door of getting back into the tournament. And all I

(28:37):
could think of, what was that Saturday night, Yeah, Saturday night,
as we were watching the ut UTSA first game at
a bar in the neighborhood and the amount of people
that probably hadn't watched a single UTSA baseball game all
season because they were so into it, because because it

(29:02):
says UTSA on the jersey. I mean, what else do
we have? We have the Spurs. Well, that's what I'm saying.
And that's where like going back to and I know
a lot of y'all, like U I W. Has done amazing,
amazing things at the one double A level in football recently,
but UTSA is such like when he talks about it

(29:23):
being the front porch for the university, it's the front
porch for the city. It's the back porch for the Spurs,
or the front porch like you said. But everything else
on a national scale, on a national level outside of
the boxing, I mean all of our world champion boxers,
we have shout out to Mario fighting in coming out.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
Of its come on, pak, what the hell are you doing?

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Mario hopefully beats the hell anyway, Cause money man, it's UTSA.
It's UTSA athletics that is that second sister to our
Spurs here locally and to see to see them come
back against the number two seed Longhorns and watch it
communally at the bar as it was happening progressively over

(30:12):
the second half of that game, and start to see
more and more people even realize what they were watching.
And like half the people three quarters of the people
in that bar didn't even know that was the tournament.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
No, they couldn't name one person on there. And and
here's what, here's here's the ballbuster to follow it up
the next day when we have to play Texas again,
and I go up to the bar begrudgingly. I wanted
to sit at home watch my Yankees lose or something
like that. But they don't even have it on TV.
Oh yeah, it was on ESPN Plus. It was on

(30:48):
the ESPN Plus.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
I mean we sat there for like four innings trying
to figure out how to get someone's code to ESPN Plus.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
To the universe should have done something about that. It
should have absolutely been free for San Antonio to watch that.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Oh yeah, and what was it the ESPN Plus It
was blacked out because of regional Longhorn. TV wasn't even
playing it.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
I got it. I was able to get it on
ESPN Plus.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
You were able to get Yeah, you have like an
it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
I wasn't think.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Maybe it was the long Horn net we're blacked out,
something blacked it out, or maybe it was a guy
at the bar.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
I think it was a guy at the bar that
was on the ver.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
Should have picked this up. They're ESPN affiliate. They should
have picked this up and let San Antonio watch this.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah, it makes me wonder what after.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Such a great first game exactly, you know what I'm saying, Like,
come on.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
I'd be curious to know more of the broadcasting restrictions
or the options, like if they even had an option
to throw it on like CW or some small some
kind of It was a money grab. They wanted the subscriptions,
and I think it's I think it's because the ESPN
has they just have the full broadcast, right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
When the first game against the Longhorns was on the
SEC network that not everybody has also.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
That's exactly right. So we were lucky at the bar
that they had SEC network, and at first, before we
realized it was on SEC network, homeboy my buddy was
streaming it from his phone to just one of the TVs.
Then they realized it was on SE, so they put
it on all the TVs and see that's what I
was trying to do.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
I was going through my little cheater app and I
was like, let me just stream this up here, and
like I couldn't fight.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Man.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
It was just that was the disappointment. That was boo
on ESPN. They should have let the follow up game,
especially the rematch after the great first one. You got
the underdog, you got Goliath versus David, you know, David
versus glythe however you want to say it, But like.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
That was that was a missed opportunity. Yeah, and the big,
the bigger question to me is you know, okay, I
get it. If you if UTSA is not the draw
you want to put on one of your five channels
you have yet been, it's Texas exactly. It's the number
it's the number two seed about to be eliminated. How
are you choosing Southern Miss versus Miami over that game?

(33:12):
That that would be? Where where my questions pop up
were either one of y'all familiar, Well, how much Alice
get this way? How much do y'all know about the
UTSA head baseball coach coach Pat Hallmark? That would be zero, sir, okay.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Not a lot.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
But I did shoot every single home game last season, so.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
You've at least seen him, you know what he exactly,
I've shot press coming.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Yes, he's a good dude.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Yeah, it seems like a great, great dude. Yeah he was. So.
He played baseball at Rice and he was a part
of those really really really good Rice team, like the
Lance Berkman era of when Rice was competing for a
national championship. Coached him.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
We got we got a good coach. Yeah, he so
trailer and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
He when he was a I think he actually was
at UIW right before UTSA was a big old controversy.
It was a huge controversy that they Yeah, that's why
I was wondering why I tried to give our UIW
friends some love earlier, because school you get all the
money in the world. But no, he when he was

(34:19):
at Rice, the football team beat Texas nineteen to seventeen
in Daryl K. Royal Stadium. He was literally one of
the students hanging on the goal post as they tore
them down.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yes, yes, he and I'm sure he tells that story
proudly as he should.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
As he should.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
I carried that thing all the way out the stage.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
So he has torn down the goal post against ut
and has now eliminated them to get UTSA their first No.
First of all, the win Saturday night was their first
ever win in a regional period. Oh yeah, the last
time they had been there was like twenty thirteen, and
I think they had played a total of like five
tournament games all together, had lost all of them up

(35:15):
up until this past weekend. So Saturday night's the first win.
And of course he has the great line in the
post game, well, you know, we didn't come here for
one win, we came for three. Pretty good.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
But also he got you're hyping up you guys. I
love it. But that was a record break, Like that
was a record making win Saturday and night. That mentality,
and then of course now UTSA advancing to their first
super regional. They're gonna end up playing UCLA, which if

(35:52):
you want to look at rankings, I don't think it.
It's hard to say rankings matter right now. When Vanderbilt
number one seed is out. They their regional that they hosted,
Texas lost their regional they hosted.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
We're seeing my OSU cowboys be it took out Georgia.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah, they lost to Dukeies. You gotta love the Dookies.
But if you want to look at rankings or how
these teams match up on paper, Texas was a much
harder team than UCLA is. They have much more roster depth,

(36:31):
more arms that they can throw at you. Texas does
than UCLA. I mean, And the one thing about this
UTSA team is, you know college baseball, when a team
like this goes on a run like this, it's usually
not because they have, you know, the big bats in
the lineup. They have the consistency, and you look at exactly,

(36:54):
you look at something like UTSA is top twenty in
batting average in the nation. They're also top twenty in
fielding percentage, their top twenty in getting hit getting a
hit by pitch, so like their their top twenty and
get getting on base, hitting the ball for average, and
not making errors on defense.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
So that's just that's a fundamental, fundamentally sound team that
goes right to the coach A thousand.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
I heard them say it was something. I can't remember
who it was. I think it was what I've been wating.
I watched a lot of Squeeze play the ESPN Quad
box of all the games and it might have been
Chris Burke on there that was talking about it, where
you know, UTSA is taking that kind of second tier

(37:42):
of talent and maximizing those guys. Yeah, so without being
in the running for any of the you know, true
blue chip talent, they're taking what they have and like
you said, making sure that the fundamental parts of the
game they excel at. And then when you do get
a random pop or a random guy starts playing like

(38:04):
he's a stud, a stud, like a five star. Yeah.
I mean you look at their ch it's just coaching.
The great coaching, great coaching.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
And that's how Oklahoma State football used to always be man,
sweet my Gundy forty Yeah, before he's before last year.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Well I know what, really, before t boone pickings passed,
I think I saw someone put it out the the
winning percentage. Since t Boon's passing is this year, well, uh,
we'll see about that, but we will we will move
on because also Saturday night, uh, as we were watching

(38:38):
the game, uh ut s A U T other TVs
had the final NBA on t n T broadcast potentially ever,
as the Pacers eliminated the in six games. Yeah, that's right, Bezos,
Amazon getting the package, NBA, NBC getting back in. But

(39:02):
we're going to talk about the Pacers Thunder matchup in
the main segment, but I wanted to just talk about
that the whole way, This NBA on TNT and inside
the NBA, you know obviously you know the Chuck Shaq,
Kenny Ernie, the way this is kind of being I

(39:23):
guess treated or talked about. Yeah, that was where like
as we were watching it Saturday, and.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
I had that was the most important thing, and seemed
like during that I.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Had it recording at the house. So when we got home,
I went back and watched some of it and Shack
you know, say like we're coming to you know, we're
not coming not to f around and all that. Like
it feels like it feels like there was this rush
to memorialize it, which I loved, thoroughly enjoyed all of
the clips of all the old clips that are Yeah,

(39:56):
there's so many, and we could do three hours just
on a best of.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
A wormhole if you ever want to go down a
YouTube wormhole.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
And that was me basically all day yesterday as they
were as everyone was tweeting them out. But it just
it just kind of felt a little It felt like
we were eulogizing something that's not dying or or is it,
and that's we needed to eulogize it now because, as
Bill Simmons suggested, because ESPN's about to f it up.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
So are you suggesting that it's going to be not
the same. It's like they're not going to let them
have the highgiens that they had. They're gonna make them
talk Lebron. They're going to make them do this like
all the stuff that's supposedly going on behind the scenes
of the Four Letter Network.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
So that's that's obvious. The obvious concern with it is
that if you know, the thing that makes this show
great and uh, you know LG will absolutely agree with
this wholeheartedly. The thing that makes the inside the NBA
show great is the way it's produced. Yeah, and the

(41:07):
all of the not just talking about the photo shop bits,
you know, pictures they put up and make fun of
each other.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
They let Ernie run the show like a little bit,
you know. And that's what I like about it because
he rains all these big he's a.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Great egotistical people. In he's a great conductor and outside
so Ernie's doing that at the table with the guys
and then behind the scenes. So a perfect example. They
close every show with the EJ's Nedos stat of the Night. Yeah,
unsolid by sponsorship since nineteen eighty nine. So the way

(41:44):
that segment works if you watch it closer or you
think back to it now as we're talking about it,
when you know they're doing that usually at after midnight
Atlanta time, because it's after the second game of a
double header, it's after a West Coast game.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
They're starting to get tired because they're all East coast.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Because they're all the East Coast, they're on East Coast time.
They've been in that studio for five hours from pregame
of the first game of the doubleheader to now post
games they and then they're really out out of here.
And then when we get to that final segment. Sometimes
that final segment is three minutes, sometimes it's thirteen. Yeah,

(42:28):
because even though they're tired and they've been there all day,
all of a sudden, they get rolling on something or
some prop whatever they're doing, whatever the activity is or
whatever the bid is, is going so well and they're
having fun with it. They just keep going and just
keep stretching out and old Jerry and what are you
cutting off? Like, oh no, a rerun of Law and

(42:51):
Order is going to start late Supernatural or yeah, Supernatural
or or Guardians of the Galaxy Volume seven for the
thirteenth time.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Watch for the eighteenth times exactly exactly, so they're able,
you know, I always I say it sometimes content over clock,
Like if the content is good, the show keeps rolling.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
And that's the production behind the scenes that ESPN just
does not. That is just not in their ethos. That's
not how they they want it structured. They want you in,
they want you out at a certain time so that
they can tag there michelob Ultra pregame interview sponsor Toyota.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
ESPN, BET dot Com like you're gonna, man, We're gonna
be just thrusted down.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
That see, And that's where that's where some Okay, so,
Front Office Sports had this exclusive report that came out
this afternoon and they're saying inside the NBA will lead
ESPN's NBA pregame and halftime programming, So thank god, no

(44:03):
more Steven A. Kendrick and that terrible grouping. And most importantly,
there will be an extensive postgame show sources tell Front
Office Sports, and apparently sources sources tell them that ESPN
has no plans to change the show's DNA. And I

(44:26):
think that's where was it.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Michael Jordans supposed to.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Join Perks, that's NBA, that's NBC. ABC's doing a special
advisor role with NBC. So you know that's where if
you believe ESPN.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
At their word, they never lied to us.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Well that's never lied to us, fair point, But it
seems like they whereas like, okay, I referenced Bill Simmons,
like ten years or however long it's been now fifteen,
however long since Simmons was at ESPN. They have at
least shown now that they will allow something like McAfee

(45:06):
to take over their air. We're not going to touch
your content. We're we're we know you're going to bring
people on that are going to criticize ESPN personalities that
are going to say things that are.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
And then against McAfee run like they've let him say
crazy stuff and he goes and apologize like that, poor girl.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
I don't think they they haven't shut down a whole lot,
like off the top of my head, so.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
I never was a watcher of the first.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Of it.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Yeah, but it seems like he gets he gets, you know,
a long leash.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Oh exactly. And that's where ESPN in its history has
never shown to allow much of that, but here recently
as the new regime, right and and and I'll tell
tell you I was thinking about it a lot this
weekend as I watched their final sign off and them

(46:06):
literally dropping the mic and thinking about the fact that
that show goes all the way back to nineteen eighty nine.
I think the best way I could describe what they
were doing before anybody else was is a lot of
what you get now in the podcast world, where it

(46:29):
is just like for them at first, it was Ernie,
Shaq and Kenny, Ernie, Chuck and Kenny before Shack joined,
and it was, you know, the three of them that
were basically just doing a podcast between in between hals
halfs or over highlights even and all of a sudden

(46:50):
you're getting a highlight of Duncan posterizing Garnet. But Chuck
is talking about some offshoots.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Because he's done, or a memory that he's like, remember
this one, and.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
It feels like it's it always felt like they were
people that at any moment could drop some basketball knowledge
on you that you wouldn't get anywhere else. But the
entertainment was first and foremost, and you know, like we're
going to give you solid basketball analysis, but we're we

(47:24):
want to have fun doing this exactly and thinking about
it a lot over the weekend, like and especially once
Shack joined, you know, that whole show. It was just
always much more of a hangout kind of podcast environment
than it was the structured, rigidness of what ESPN has
always thrown out there for their NBA error. They can

(47:48):
they they could be that. I mean, you look at Godfathers.
Look at what McAfee does, Like that's a podcast for.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
People talking on the couch. The were subjects and highlights, right.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
And that's kind of where, you know, thinking about if
ESPN treats them more like they treat McAfee. I don't
think there's a whole lot to worry about. I'm hopeful,
awful so, but we'll see, you know, at hearing that
report makes me a little more confident that ESPN might know.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
I really don't think they want to ruin it because
they know that they basically got handed gold. Yeah, that's
exactly what happened is, you know, they always win all
the awards and all that, the SP's, they win the
all the.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
TV all the Emmys, ands and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
And when TNT matched the offer or even maybe went
above Amazon, and they still went with Amazon. Yeah, I wonder, well,
why you know, Bezos, it's still I don't like that
ball hits.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
There's more and more reasons every day.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
The other side of it, Yeah, they got handed it.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
They got handed the whole package. And they don't have
the leverage in the relationship because none of those guys
on at that desk need to keep doing that show.
They're continuing to do it because they genuinely enjoy doing
it with each other. And the money. The money is
nice too. But Chuck tries to retire every single year.

(49:16):
I think last year he said this is going to
be to travel exactly. So the second ESPN starts to
intermingle and get too heavy handed with it, they'll just say, oh,
I see Chuck, We're done. I'm out.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
I see Chuck pulling back the curtains a thousand like,
I'm not gonna do that.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Man. Do ESPN knows that that they know that's the
guy they have now under their banner. So I think
the I think the memorializing hopefully is a bit a
bit too soon. And then lastly, before we talk a
little baseball with your Yankee minute, I did something yesterday

(49:57):
morning that I have I think I've gotten pretty damn
good at So first of all, first of all, no, no,
no Chinese throwing star skills. First of all, I think,

(50:17):
let me acknowledge the the nice balance I have personally
being married to someone who travels frequently for work. It's
nice every now and then to have a few days.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Just I used to travel all the time, and like
my relationship was never better.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Exactly exactly, and I mean to the roommate's credit, Like
she one of her we were joking over the weekend.
She was talking about, you know, her graduating, her actual
graduation was Saturday from grad school, and she was talking
about how one of her goals was to always find
a job that allowed her to travel off thing and

(51:00):
this whole time, the whole time in the conversation, I'm
sitting there like, yeah, no, that's really that's great. Yeah well,
and I'm like, yeah, you know, as much as I
as much as I don't like to have you traveling
so much. It's I'm proud of you for achieving your life.
There's a balance there is what I'm is what I'm describing.
There's a balance to achieve. And yesterday morning I drove

(51:24):
Steph to the airport. She's traveling all this week for work,
and it was thank you. It was one of those
moments where like it's Sunday morning, I'm already thinking about,
like I'm about to just I'm gonna watch golf all day,
gonna watch the memorial. I've got all this college baseball

(51:44):
to watch. Just lay it.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
That's daily for Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
That is that is true, that that there's not much
only a thin layer between him and his boys and
you right now.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
That's that and even thinner in these shorts.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
I'm where did I put it out of my mind?

Speaker 2 (52:00):
So there's a balance where I can't be I can't
be too excited. Yeah, but she knows that there's some
level of excitement there. And so damn it if last night,
the first night of her being out of town, damn
it if I didn't fall asleep on the couch with
the controller in my hand and wake up at about

(52:21):
five thirty with a crick in my back that I
am still still dealing with right now. That's why I'm like,
if you can't, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
We're like me with my herniated back right now, we're
playing hurt.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Tonight, and I feel like it's a bit of the
karma coming back to me quickly for my five dollars.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Ikia chair probably doesn't help your back.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Well, I could invest like the cat has and uh.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
This thing there is that big leather chair right to you,
right you could be sitting go yeah, I'm worried.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
That just screams like eighties power chair.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
I'll tell an executive chair that my dad had from
the early nineties.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
That's exactly. That feels like the chair I played. Uh
like uh the space pinball on an old exact computer.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Because you're in your dad's office being like, all right, yeah,
what was the.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Snowboard the skiing game where you're being chased by the sasquat.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Ye, that was a great that was a great game.
So you so you fell asleep, and now did you
get to watch any sports?

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Well? I watched I don't think I watched the sport
the specific series you were watching. I would have said.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
It was a sad but alright, weekend for the Yankees.
Put a minute all o'clock. So what do we get
in first at bat with Aaron Judge for the La
Dodgers in New York Yankees, the rematch of the World's
Judge goes yard and then following the next Otani goes yard.

(54:07):
That guy is in human, that's correct, yes, and then
freeze our ace who is no doubtedly up there for
Siam has a great game. We've only given up two,
we've only given up one run. We're going through it,
and he has his worst thing ever and gives up
six runs and we end up losing the first game.
Then we get literally slobber knocker the next game. Judge

(54:28):
still hits two home runs during that game. But then
we get our revenge. We get our revenge and we
win last night's game where Otani goes oh for I
think he went one for four. We had his number.
And the Yankees are back and that's our first series
loss out of out of nine. And we come back

(54:49):
and we play the Guardians. Oh, let's let's let's bring
it home boys, let's get back on that winning try.
Oh my good god, this is this guy.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
What I was gonna say, is this that one game
got so bad o Tawny fell asleep in the dugout.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
That's the face of baseball. That's the face of baseball.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
You can't even stay awake for Like.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Are you are you eving kidding me me? Like, do
you see Judge falling asleep? Oh wait, your bets didn't
go through.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
We gotta do We gotta sit there with him and
his dog. He's so great.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Just take this bend.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Just yeah, I was thinking about you. I was thinking
about you. I think that was Saturday night.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
It was we had our we had our third basement
in there, throwing the little lobbers and everything like that.
So that was our worst blowout this year. We've only
had three other games where we've lost more than lost
by more than three runs and no more. We've only

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lost three games well mine minus. We've only lost three
games that was more than three runs, by by by
by more than three runs, and it was no less
than five runs. So we've never been blown out. Yeah,
you know, we've never got blown out out. So until

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Saturday where we got well, I guess if you're gonna
do it, we got a blumkin. Yeah, if you're.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Gonna get if you're gonna if you're gonna get absolutely demolished,
you might as well. You might as well just make
it as bad as possible.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
We got them back, We got them back.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Still five, five and a half game lead in the division. Yeah,
my Rangers are about to open a series against the Rays.
I think they're they're not helping your work. Your work,
they dropped.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
You got one job, Rangers to beat the Al East teams,
well except the Yankees.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Going back last week, they played a series against the
Blue Jays midwe where if you went to all three
games you saw seven runs scored combined between the two teams.
Oh my god, no batting even seven runs in three games?

Speaker 1 (57:12):
But what was that? What was the outcome? One that
went out of two?

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Yeah, Texas won one out of tude. Yeah they it was.
It was like a two to oh loss and then
a two to ozho win and then a three tozero loss.
Something doing.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Man, he's usually a beast. He's usually up there in
the like lower three hundreds. Probably got like almost in
the running for home runs.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure the I'm not
sure y'all are going to face a late charge from
any of those Al East teams, But we didn't help
you against the Blue Jays. We're about to try to
help you against the Rays. That series starts tomorrow night.
But I saw because after they only score four runs

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in that Blue Jay series, and then they played the
Cardinals this weekend and started first game they won like
eleven to one, and you're like, hey, the bats are back,
like we at least like Simeon went four for four
and all of a sudden, maybe his career is not
as over as it looks.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
But then Saturday night, the next game they get shut out.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
So is there any rumblings like you're going to bring
in a bat?

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Well, they've they've called up Ozuna, one of the higher,
higher prospects. They're about to get Evan Carter back from
the disabled list, and now Seeger's back until he gets
hurt again, which will be a matter of weeks. You know,
they're they finally benched a dolease. Yeah, we're at that point, dude,

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We're at that point.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
We can't.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
He was the heart for the run and a year
before that. But the shutout loss. So they Sunday they
end up winning the rubber match, win eight to one,
but the shutout Saturday night. That was the rangers eighth
shutout lost. That's the most in the AL. It was
their fourteenth game with four or less hits. God, that's

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the most in baseball. Fourteen out of fifty games they
have four less.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
No prospects in the minors, Yeah, no.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Prospects a little it's a little bear. Oh my god.
It was the twenty seventh time allowing two runs or less.
That's great. They only allowed two runs or less. That's
that's the most in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
You have three pitchers in the top in the e
r three pitchers in the top like twenty five.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Take a guess at what the Rangers win percentage is
in those games where they allow two runs or less?
What do you think there win percent Tell me it's
under five. It's better than five hundred, but six fifty seven,
seven out of ten they're right at seven. Oh, you
should be a nine if they have the lowest team

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e r A in the majors.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
And it at least you know your problem.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
If you want to feel even worse about it, this
is exactly how good the starting pitching has been. So
the Rangers starters this Sean McFarlane had this on X.
The Ranger starters have allowed three or fewer runs in
fifty four of their sixty games this year. Oh my god.

(01:00:24):
So it's amazing. Fifty four of the sixty games played,
starting pitching allows three runs or fewer. And that includes
Nathan Uvaldi doing that in twelve of twelve starts this year.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
You know who has a lot of prospects.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Valdi hasn't allowed over three runs. Tyler Mally has done
so in each of his twelve starts. The resurrection project
of Patrick Corbin, who the Nationals couldn't wait to get
off their payroll, He's done so in each of his
ten starts. De Gram surprisingly has actually allowed more than

(01:01:03):
three runs in one of his twelfth it's still yeah,
in eleven of his to Jack Lighter, who we had
so many questions about after seeing a cup of coffee
last year, he's done it in seven of his nine starts.
And even Kamar Rocker, who's about to come back from
the injury list, uh, he's done it in three of
his five.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
So reading those pitching stats just gets you. It just
pisses you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
It's the antithesis of what I grew up with, where
the Rangers would mash All Summer would be a top
five offense but a bottom five pitching staff. It has
for the first time in my life, we are premier
elite starting pitching, which first of all, has happened maybe

(01:01:49):
three times in my lifetime with the Rangers Nolan, Ryan Davis, well,
not even my lifetime. Back then it was that was
just Nolan.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Yeah, but it was like at a three point five, Yeah,
he's just striking out, no hitting.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Yeah, uh but no like that that that nine at
twenty ten, twenty eleven with the guys like but again
it wasn't big name guys. It was like CJ. Wilson,
Derek Holland, uh, Kolby Lewis, like it wasn't and they
would make the big trades.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
For well, let's play let's let's play a little GM
right now. You know who has a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Of Cliff Lee was a big trade for him back Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
I'm not run. What about the your old method guy?

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Which one it's the Texas Rangers, you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Know, like you know the guy who was like MVP
and then.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Oh Josh Hamilton, yeah Halton, Yeah for Hamilton, Yeah, he
drank too much Red Bull and couldn't catch fly balls. Anymore.
It's but if I'm playing GM, so the Rangers have
the Rangers farm system has some really elite top end
like Sebastian Walcott Bam Bam. Walcott is probably the second,

(01:03:02):
maybe third best infield prospect in the miners right now. Okay,
but you're not moving off of him to get any
short term help. He's a guy that's as untouchable as
anyone in the system. They don't have a lot of those,
like B tier prospects, so they've got some A tier

(01:03:23):
guys they don't want to trade away. They've got some
C tier guys that aren't really enough.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
What's y'all's record right now, two.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Games under, two games under five hundred, But that's not no.
There are only four games behind the division lead behind
the Mariners.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
So playing GM, the Yankees need a starter, and we
got a lot of prospects we got. We're trying to
keep a third baseman who's a He's in almost three
hundred right now, Raza, even even though he pitched. I'm
just saying you might have to move off one of
these big name pitchers to get an elite hitter immediately.

(01:04:05):
Be some more prospects in the farm league, that is
that will that you can possibly move up because how
like immediately because the people that you have now aren't
doing anything.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
No, and there's an argument to be made where they're
in a they're in a rough. I think they're they're
in for Chris Young, the GM as he looks at like,
we have the best starting pitching so far this season.
Our offense is terrible. Okay, so if we mortgage some
of that starting pitching to help the offense, how much

(01:04:40):
you know, where's the break even point there where we
don't hurt the starting pitching too much because they also
need bullpen help and that's something that you can pick
up with some of those C tier prospects at the
deadline or later in the summer. But to act to
get a bat that would actually come in and help
this bat in the top half of this lineup, I

(01:05:02):
think some really tough decisions would have to be made.
Kind of like you're suggesting, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Like, if you want to go for it now, and
it seems.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Like the Astros who always had.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
That division, they're beatable. Yeah, they're beatable right now.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Your Don just had his own injury setback. The Mariners
Cal Rawly might be the best hitter not named Aaron
Judge in the AL this season. I mean, he's doing
things that catchers haven't done in a long time offensively
the Mariners. But all that being said, the Rangers are
only looking at a four.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
Game yeah, and we were only a third through the season.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Exactly, so there's no I don't think you're going to
see any panic moves yet, but.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
We're going to start seeing some all Star break line
like always.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Yeah, and I think there's definitely going to be definitely
going to be some decisions made because I just as
long as they're within five games of the Division League,
they're not going to be a selling team. They're not
set up to They're set up to win.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
LA, especially with that pitching. Grom's not getting any young,
getting any younger.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
And and the reclamation projects of Molly and uh Corbyn
Corbyn burns like those guys are that train. That rocket
might run out of fuel tomorrow my home.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
But like, I know that if you traded someone to
the n L, obviously I'll get off my like wishing
that the Yankees could get another starter, but you could
trade someone to the NL. That's like, you know, trying
to do like there's gotta be there's gotta be a
fit there. So you're not a trading in league, not
trade definitely, don't want to trade in division.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
You never want to do that, you know, not ideally, No,
not ideally.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
And then there's gotta be there's gotta be there's got
to be your soulmate out there.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Yeah, I'm about.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Mat it's got to be out there somewhere when they
got some batting for you where they can pick up
two runs, you know, and get some of these wins.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
I'm almost at the point of really opening up the
baseball trade machine because I think once we get past,
once we get past the NBA Draft, the baseball trade
market will probably be where I spend most of my
daily reading looking at what could be out there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
But and that's twenty three days away.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Yeah, yeah, twenty three days away now from that NBA draft. Well,
let's talk a little NBA here in the main segment,
because we do now since the last time we talked,
we were waiting to see if the Pacers were going
to finish off the Knicks. Indeed they did, so we
have our NBA Final set, a showcase of fresh talent
and technically first time champs. Yeah, because the Thunder don't

(01:07:47):
claim the Sonics title. No, so one of these teams
will get the gold patch on the back of the.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Jersey and the Indiana Pacers finally get over the hump.
What was it nineteen ninety three was the last time
they were in the finals.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
God, has it been that long?

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
I think I think it's nineteen ninety threes the NBA Finals,
I want to say so. I think it was the
early nineties. Fact check me on that one. But obviously
Oklahoma last time they were in they had the all
three and Lebron's heat took care of them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
The little super team. But this is this is basically
it was only only the two thousand NBA Finals and
that was up against shit Kobe and Shaq and the Lakers.
Oh two two thousand Yeah, way off. Anyway, I didn't
think Reggie and those this was like the tail tail

(01:08:49):
end of Reggie.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
You also had Jermaine O'Neil. Yeah, Jermaine O'Neil I think
was on that team. I think he was a probably
second third year.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Yeah, that was that Larry hed Uh coach team. You
still had a lot of those older holdover guys. It
actually wasn't it wasn't germane yet it was Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
He must have been drafted one O two.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Yeah, it was still Rick Smith, the Great, Jalen Rose. Uh, yeah,
that's big, smooth, Sam Perkins, Chris Mullen, Reggie and Mark Jackson.
It was the last last run. Austin croz Year, the
Provident Zone. Jeff Foster, Texas State Z owned L L
G and High School. Uh. NBA draft bus Jonathan Bender.

(01:09:39):
Uh that's a name I hadn't seen in a while. Yeah, No,
it's I There's there's a lot of there's a lot
of interesting storylines to me, but the big national one
is the obvious, like.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Oh, it's the NBA Finals in Oklahoma City and Indianapolis,
And I mean they need like if they like, why
are you why are you throwing the baby out with
the bath water already?

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
You like that old time saying.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
That's a that's a great idiom, a great old like
old testament. Let's straight out of Isaiah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Hey, let's put some hype in it before we go
ahead and crush it. You know what I'm saying. Let's
hype it up. Besides being like this is going to
be the lowest rated series in finals history.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Let's try. Does this get you hyped? Since January one,
the Thunder and Pacers are the two best teams record
wise in the entire NBA. I'm hype. That's hype. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
They won sixty eight games, the record seventy three, so
they were five off of the record. So you have
an amazing team in Oklahoma with the league MVP League
MVP going against probably I would say the hands down
the playoff MVP. Then Haliburn.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Did you see the video of him not getting the
Eastern Conference MVP Trophy? What it was? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Man, he you think deserved it?

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Look, I don't think. I think the only people that
will carry came on late.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
He came on late.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Oh, this is the MVP for the Eastern Conference finals. Okay,
not the whole thing, right, the Eastern Conference Finals, But
he's the m v P over the playoffs so far
both sides.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Hands down. How about the Thunder's historic win? Uh differential
at home so far? This like they don't it's something ridiculous. Yeah,
Like they don't play close games at home.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
So home is rocking. Home was rocking at Indiana last night. Man,
they were getting hype they're back on it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
It's and it's like Rick. It's like Rick Carlisle said
after the game after they won Saturday night. And this
sounds incredibly cheesy, and it is because it is. It
is absolutely cheesy, But there's also a lot of truth
in it. Carlisle said, in forty nine other states, it's
just basketball, but this is Indiana. Ooh, that's a great line.

(01:12:18):
That's also a line of a man who's been wanting
to say that for the last three years. This is
his second stint in Indiana, isn't it. Uh yes, yeah, yeah,
because he was. It was before he was there, was
during Dallas in the house, before he went to Dallas,
won the championship with them, and then came back and
then came back to India.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
He's got unfinished business here man.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Yeah, uh, I'm selling that sounds pretty high.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
Caliburn versus SGA. You got two young teams that sit
there and play hell of a defense. They're gonna bang.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
Like.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
The one thing I got of yesterday's game is Indiana
was just bullyballing. They were sitting there just the fifty
to fifty balls. They were not They weren't.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Going to lose their Junkyard dogs man guys like nim
Hard and McConnell, like, yeah, you those are the that's
the guy that is getting every rebound at the why
running pick up, but they're doing it in the NBA
as undersized point all that kind of good stuff exactly.

(01:13:23):
How about the fact, how about the fact that Paul
George set up all of the moves in motion to
get both of these teams to where they are now.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Yeah, but you probably know them. More stats on this
Paul George. Okay, see what did okay see get? Well,
I mean, what did Indiana get?

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
It's this is where this is where it's interesting because
if something we've talked about for multiple weeks, here is
the current timeline comparing the current timeline the Thunderer are
on to the current timeline that the Spurs are embarking
on of the draft. Develop stay young, keep a young

(01:14:04):
core so Oka see originally made the Paul George trade
in It was so they traded him to They traded
him to LA in twenty nineteen. That's okay, that was
when that was when they got SGA and the thunder

(01:14:28):
traded for him originally in twenty seventeen. And that's when
they got Halliburton. So it's when they got the pieces
that led to Halliburton. So in twenty seventeen, Pacers trade
Paul George to the Thunder for Victor Oladipo named Blast
from the Past. Yeah, uh, Indiana guy played for the

(01:14:48):
Hoosiers and going to the Pacers and made sense. But
the other part of that trade, Demontes sa bonis there's
your white Oladipot. The bonus was a part of that
trade that went to Indiana. Yeah, and then well and
then the don't go to rockets right to the Kings
when the Kings decided that the de errand because the

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Kings drafted Halliburton. Yeah, and the Kings actually drafted Halliburton
in the same draft that like, the Spurs had a
pick and it's it's late kind of and it's not
lazy to say that the Spurs could have drafted him,
but it was that twenty twenty draft and he went.

(01:15:31):
He ended up going right after I think it was
the literal pick, right after the Spurs took Yeah, Devin Vessel.
So if Asel was the eleventh pick in that draft,
and then Halliburton was the King's twelfth pick.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Yeah, I remember that, and you always twelfth.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Picks are huge in this series too, because we'll talk
about in a minute. Oklahoma City is led by a
former twelfth overall pick. So Kings draft Halliburton and then
decide that and this is where the Spurs come in.
Kings decide the Aaron Fox and Tyrus Haliburton can't coexist.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Why so that's how can you?

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
I think there's some I think there's some serious Neither
one of them can play the defense to cover the other,
so court is just a sieve. Both of them are
extremely ball dominant, especially Fox at that point in his career.
He needed more of a big to do the picking
run exactly. And that was the King's idea of you know,

(01:16:29):
we have this asset and Halliburton, but we need to
get bigger. So that's where they trade Halliburton to Indy
for Sabonis. Sa Bonus goes to the Kings. Bonus and
Fox both play well together, so Bonus becomes an All star.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
Obviously, they lead the league, they lead the Western Conference
what was it two years ago, and wins.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
They had a really good year that I think they
ended up. I think the highest they ended up with
that group was third or fourth.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
I think it was third number one for a long time.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Yeah, but they didn't end up they didn't end up
number one the year, right with Keegan Murray as well.
That was I think it was his rookie year. So
they Haliburton ends up getting shipped to Indy. And this
is where the Oklahoma City aspect of it comes into play,

(01:17:24):
because Oklahoma City now has had Paul George for a
couple of years. They have really middling success in the
playoffs each year.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
And that's after Paul George is coming off that horrific
leg enginy.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
Right, and it's it's Paul George to all of a
sudden as telling everybody how much he loves living in
Oklahoma City because he really loves fishing and life is
great here. But then Oklahoma City.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
Says, yeah, actually, Paul, you can't get out of the
first round.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
They lost to the Jazz the first year he was there,
lost to the Trailblazers in the first round the next year,
and then lost to the Rockets in a seven game
series in twenty nineteen. Yeah, so twenty nineteen, Oklahoma City decides, look,
we've been eliminated in the first round of the playoffs
three straight years with Paul George and four straight years

(01:18:22):
if you count the year before he got there, and.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
That's when he got quiet trying to get his buddy
Paul George.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
That's when you get the trade to the Clippers. So
now a young SGA is returned to the Thunder as
a part of the Paul George trade along with some
draft picks, and immediately, as you would expect, the first
year without Paul George, they end up. That was the

(01:18:51):
year actually where they had the first round loss to
the Rockets. They lose to that one, and then the
next two years, next three years they missed the playoff entirely,
so that this year's.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Win is on that we Brockets team that I'm not getting.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
Well from back then. I mean, Shingoon is the one.
Now now I'm talking like a late too thoughts, but
I mean Clint Capella is the big man Swiss dude.
But so they go full tear down rebuild and are
building around SGA. And this is where guys like Josh
Giddy pop up with one of the draft picks from

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from one of these years, and then they win twenty
two games followed by twenty four games and then two
years ago they won forty games, which I think is right, right.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
What do we getting there?

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
No, no, no, I think that I think this is
where as we think about it from the Spurs timeline,
you would like to think that where the thunder were,
so that sixty eight wins this year, fifty seven wins
last year, forty wins the year before that. So to

(01:20:03):
support your argument, the Spurs were at thirty four wins
I think this past season.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
And that's only because Wenby went down, right, We went
to the.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
Tank, right, and all of a sudden you have a
guy like Sga.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
We had twenty wins the year before him, exactly to
get Wimby. And then you're telling me with the talent
that the OKC as the best team in the league,
the favorites to win. And now they had forty wins
on their third year. So we're coming into our third
year with the second pick getting Dylan Harper. But here's

(01:20:37):
where Baron Fox. So now, Stefan Castle.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Now that I've given you a little bit, Now that
I've given you a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
To work with, forty five doesn't seem too bad, does it?

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
So that that forty win year they forty win season
they had in twenty twenty two. Yeah, that was the
first year that they had. But Check was hurt. Yeah,
he was hurt all year. So they could have actually
been better at that point. They could have got It's

(01:21:09):
what I might be saying. But the other side of
that is they hit on So everyone remembers Chet. You know,
at the top of that twenty twenty two draft, it
was Pallo first overall. Yeah, who's been great for the
magic everything you want out of a number one pick.
Then it was Chet number two, and then the Rockets

(01:21:30):
still had high picks. They took a Jabari Smith junior
that year. The twelfth pick in that draft is the
Oklahoma City's second best player. Now as we watched them
in the finals, that was the Jaylen Williams pick. So
again I think as we think about like, the Spurs

(01:21:53):
are about to have a draft eerily similar to that
twenty twenty two draft that the Thunder had where they
had a second.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Overall injury without the injury.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
And then the fourteenth overall pick. The Thunder had the
twelfth pick, but we could see the Spurs potentially moving up.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
Can we just hear my favorite three words? My favorite
three words.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
You're not right, because it I am right. I'm just
I'm providing, I'm providing some support for your argument instead
of just telling me, oh, it's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
I just just literally said the exact same thing we
want to do, the exact same frame that we did.
You just you brought the numbers. You're my numbers man,
all right, So you actually confirmed intuition, my crazy intuition.
You confirmed it, thanks for those coffees. That we are

(01:22:50):
on the same path as Oklahoma City, but with better,
arguably better talent.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
Well that's again arguably you're talking.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
About better talent.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
You're talking about a team that has horrible.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
Argument because SGA is not better than Wimby.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
But he's the MVP of the league. Wimby will give
him three years. I completely agree, But right now as
we sit here, he's the MVP of the one.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
I'm not saying winning the championship next year, I'm saying
forty five wins, right right, get us some playoff experience.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
So that's a wash, and then next.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
The year after that we're serious contenders, which Oklahoma City
was serious contenders that year. That's where and then that's
where they're gonna be champions in the third year. In
my if it's gonna be, it's gonna be a hell
of a series. I'm not gonna give it, sure, No,
they're not. They're gonna absolutely have.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
To earn it because, like you mentioned, with the Pacers team,
they're just junkyard dogs, man, And that's what the Thunder
are too, with the lou Dorts, the Carusos.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
Let's see what happens in those fifty to fifty balls.
You're gonna see, You're gonna see some You're gonna be
see some banging. It's gonna be a Larry Flint show
down there.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Yeah, I thought you would appreciate as I as I
walked my way through this, uh through this Thunder rebuild,
and how exactly how they got there, because I was,
you know, I was pretty tickled to hear the now
Paul George on yet another team that is actually picking
third in this draft now with the seventy six ers

(01:24:22):
didn't make the dump button in time. Yeah, I can see,
I can see the path. I'll give you that. I mean,
there's but it also left doesn't seem such a far
out number. No, I will still say I bet Vegas
doesn't put them.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
I bet they put them at forty three.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
I was gonna, I swear to God, I was gonna
say forty one. I was gonna right dead five hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
I'm gonna say forty three, and I will pick over
and I'm gonna win.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
Yeah, We'll do the over Unders for sure, because I'm
really really curious because as you look at this Thunder team. Yeah,
when they took Jaylen Williams twelfth overall that draft, they
had no idea he was going to develop into an
All Star in two years.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
And I told you this before the show that Indianapolis
Pacers did the exact same thing. They have nothing but
ten eleven, twelve picks undrafted. They like, they built this team.
They didn't buy it, you know what I'm saying. They
created these guys and they just meshed together. They bought
into the philosophy of the coach, Rick Carlisle. And we

(01:25:27):
can't understate the I don't know, the head coach for
Oklahoma City, Mark Dakno.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
So, and then now if we buy in to Mitch
Johnson's you know, post pop era, now, who's still going
to be have pop in his ear? And they buy
into it because everybody buys into pop because in pop
we trust, you know, why can't.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
This be our path?

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
Look, this is the path of the Jedi man.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
Okay, Now you're getting ridiculous. If Dylan Harper is as
if he's Kate Cunningham like he looks like, and he does.
He absolutely does. Wendy, Wendy stays healthy. If Steph Castle
continues to develop, he will. Of course there's your three
that you can pair up with your SGA. Well, I'm

(01:26:23):
saying to compare to what Okay has the SGA chet
Jalen trio, the Spurs with still having the darn Fox
and the fourteenth pick. Yeah, it can be. It can
be accelerated even faster than it was for Oklahoma City.
And that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
I and that's why you say three little words that
I love. That is not unheard of that we can
win forty five games. And I would put money on
it because I was right. There was a little there
was a little there was a little method. You're not right, Charlie,

(01:27:01):
with that board, with that board on the thing, with
all the wy like all the days like here we go,
we got this is Martin over here, we don't know
who he is, but he's getting a ton of mail.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
This is like, this is like an FBI agent in
nineteen seventy detective, I got everything on the wall. Yeah,
but like it's like you're you're you predicted nine to
eleven in nineteen seventy five, and then when it finally happened,
I told you I was right. Like we let's still
see the intuition, man, Let's still see how this plays out,

(01:27:32):
because you're not right until you're actually right, and nothing
has chang until you score. That's correct, nothing has changed.
I just thought a little additional, do we have a
I'm assuming the rooting interest for everyone in the room
here is Pacers, because can't root for the thunder Yeah, Pacers.

Speaker 4 (01:27:50):
Lg uh yeah, going for the Pacer And I was
going for the Knicks just because I wanted to see
NBA Finals in Madison Square Garden.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
But yeah, that was maybe next year.

Speaker 4 (01:27:59):
Before we move on from this, the Drew shows in here.
Just bought us five coffees. Hey, buddy, he says, uh,
he wrote a whole paragraph here, SJ has an easy
has had an easy road defensively in the playoff. Who
the Hell's guarded him, Luca, Please, Anthony Edwards didn't even
try and looked like he was confused in the Western
Conference Finals. Can we stop the talk on that loser

(01:28:20):
being the face of the league now? Now the Pacers
have Haliburton, a Smith and m hard Shepherd to put
their collective foot in his ass.

Speaker 3 (01:28:28):
It's not going to be that easy. All the people
calling Thunder and five?

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
Do you just not like Canadians?

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
Who does you don't like lay in Canada?

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
Those beady little eyes and flappy little heads, you know,
and all of the maple syrup and frozen pond hockey.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Yeah, I think they're Look.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
They're making a killing on bourbon sneaking in across the border.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
There's a lot of truth in that. Like you look
at the the path the Thunder have gone through so
far in this playoffs, it's been it's it's clearly it's
it's going to be one of those titles where the
league is in this era of transition. Yeah, the old

(01:29:10):
generation is aging out. Their teams are still good because
they're on them, but they're not able to elevate a
team like they used to be able to. Guys like
SGA and Halliburton and the next generation or even Anthony
Edwards included.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
Anthony Edwards is like, that's why I don't think Minnesota
is going to be better than us.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
Yeah, but SGA wasn't even the Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
I'm better than the Spurs this year because I think
Anthony Edwards is as great as the star as he is.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
I don't think he elevates people. But here, here's the deal.
He's still a guy who has led his team to
back to back Western Conference finals for the age of
twenty five. That's pretty impressive.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
Yeah, he's impressive. He's a he's he's a he is
a mammoth basketball player in terms.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
Of faces talking about in terms of face of the league.
I look, Jokic wasn't the face of the league when
he was the MVP. It exactly. It was just because
SGA is the MVP doesn't necessarily anoint him the face
of the league. And honestly, I.

Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
Thought Wenby was the face of the league.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
I think a lot of these conversations are pretty weak
to week to begin with, Like, right now you're hearing
people argue who's going to be the new face of
the league, SGA or Halliburton depending on this.

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
Lebron was anointed by He anointed himself, and he went
to Cleveland. That was his hometown. That's the only reason
why he got anointed the face of the league.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Now, the reason he got anointed the face of the
league is because he was a seventeen year old kid
on Sports Illustrated on the cover. His high school games
were shown on We all knew him as the face
of the league.

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
It was easily odd top five, top ten player of
all time, I'll give it to him. But then he
went to big markets. He went to Miami, back to Cleveland.
Soon as he got him the championship, he left it
for the Lakers. You like to be the face of
the league, you've got to be in a big market man, Like,
when's the when was the last face of the league?

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
Not a big market man. It's I mean, that's a
tough one, right, work backwards, Who would you? I mean,
Steph Curry has been the face of the league. Big market,
big market, Golden State of James, big market. Yeah, obviously
Lebron except for the Cleveland years. But he's Lebron's just
transcendent to this whole conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:31:30):
Tim Duncan was never the face of League Kobe.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
And that was yeah, I mean that was more by
Dwane Wade.

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
Ob Yeah, you had old buddy Derek Rose for one
year in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
Yeah, I mean that's a huge market that really needs
in Chicago. That's a good question. No, I mean I
think that's you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
Need to be in a big market. You need to
be in a big city.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
Okay, let me ask you this though, do you think
that will remain true as you look, because another part
of the fact that we're looking out of Oklahoma City
Indiana Finals matchup is because the way the CBA is
written now, the Collective Bargaining Agreement, because the ability of
big market teams to stack up elite, high end, high

(01:32:15):
paid talent is much much more restrictive and more penalizing
to their team building. They they can get.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
Too super Maxes on their team, but like their bench
is gonna suffer.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
But because of that, you're gonna see way more parody
like this. You're gonna see more small markets that are doing.

Speaker 1 (01:32:35):
We just need the talking heads to get on board
and quit being like this is going to be the worst,
that's what. And I'm like, man, I was like, get like,
let's hype them up, dude, Like, I mean, we just
went through like the twenty thirty minutes of great talking lines.
Great talking lines, man, you got the underdog stories. We

(01:32:56):
got the how these guys criss crossed the across America
to get where they are. Now, you know, like there
are storylines, there are there. There is gold out there, Jerry,
there is gold.

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
Yeah. I got another Seinfeld reference that means it's probably
about time to close it out with a little lightning round.
LG get it started perfect. I think the biggest one obviously.
Also it should mention first game of the finals is
Thursday night, Thursday night, Game one in Oklahoma City. Now,

(01:33:31):
the first, you know, probably the biggest lightning round story
that crossed my death or death my desk, was the
death of local celebrity Jonathan. Do we go with Josh Joss?
Jos Joss, you will always be red Corn is John
redcorn Or the leader of the Pawnee Native American from

(01:33:57):
Parks and rec He was there.

Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
I thought you were talking about the band that he
had in the King of the Hill. Oh no, I
rest in peace, King Man like supposedly, like so, y'all
told me more facts about this than I knew.

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
We just told you what's being reported by Yeah, that's
alleged facts.

Speaker 1 (01:34:20):
Alleged facts. From what I heard is just he had
a beef with his neighbor for two years and then
finally escalated to.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
A murder. A murder, yeah, it would have we seen
has the guy been I don't think he's been charged
with murder yet. I think they're still saying charges pending,
but they're side. So we have a homicide. Well, I
think his my assumption would be his argument is there

(01:34:49):
was some level of self defense involved or something like that,
because the John Joseph's Joss or.

Speaker 1 (01:34:57):
Jose Joseph Josh, It's Jonathan Joss, Josh Josh Joss Joss.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
So Joss his partner is suggesting it was specifically related
to their relationship. Hate crimes, right, so this is but
the Bear County sheriffs are at this point suggesting there's
no evidence to support that and that it was just
a neighbor dispute between neighbors that escalated into gunshot.

Speaker 4 (01:35:26):
Of course, we can't have a hate crime right to
start off. Pride months come on.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
God forbid that God it is, I forgot it. So
jos partner was a transgender male. That means a female
biological female, biological female that transitioned into a male. And
I'm assuming that in this day and age, just makes
so many people so angry. Yeah, I what other people

(01:35:52):
do just drive my life.

Speaker 2 (01:35:54):
I just this is one of those moments. This is
one of those stories that any rush to play any
kind of politics with it. I don't think it's going
to pay off in the long because it, like from
reading the reporting, like the amount of times the cops
had been called to that house. It happened here on
the sound.

Speaker 4 (01:36:13):
I had a lot of red flags from over the
last few years, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
There was a couple of flags in the yard.

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
There were a bit of wheels off, they were a
bit of wills off. I think moments where from what
I was reading in my essay, he would, you know,
walk up and down the street just randomly yelling, screaming, screaming,
having some mental health breakdown, potentially potentially so.

Speaker 4 (01:36:39):
He had a mental incident at one of the King
of the Hill readings recently, he walked out.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
Just that's yeah, because they're they're bringing back the reviving
the series. He did.

Speaker 3 (01:36:49):
He did record all his parts for that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
Didn't we lose who did we lose? Boom Howard or
Gribble or Dale one of the other?

Speaker 3 (01:36:58):
Yeah, we did.

Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
We think it was Boom?

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
No, no, Dale, not Rusty.

Speaker 3 (01:37:07):
I still got air.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
I thought it was the fat one that like Peggy.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
Oh yeah yeah yeah no.

Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
I think he's still alive. Isn't that from.

Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
Okay? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
Well uh Leu Anne platters dead though, Britney Murphy.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
Well, and Tom Petty is gone.

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
Damn. There's a lot of people show like like did
you see that Dark Side of the Power Rangers? How
much like death and destruction and mayhem happened to the
characters and how they like abused them anyway, that's on HBO.
Can we have one of those of King of the Hill.
There's a lot of stuff going on.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
Well, and it's just Mike Judge. Man, it's just little
like good old Texan Mike Judges, good guy at the
helm of everything. I obviously I think there's I think
there's more reporting to come out about this. We'll keep
you up to date about this shooting.

Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
Yeah man, all right, hit me LG. We have a
celebration to be had. The Texas Tech's latest softball team
have eliminated the was it four time, eight time, twenty
time champs? Oh you Sooners, go Red Raiders.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
Go Red Raiders. Get your guns up, ladies.

Speaker 1 (01:38:31):
I only do guns up for O Shoe, but I'll
do them for you today because I hate the Sooners.

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
I love the fact that you were living and dying
on the wall of the third, third and under tier
college sports. Last week it was the distraction of the
college Golf National Championship. Bro, this is how I know
we're doing our first show of June because you're referencing college.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
I had an update on it, so I was like, yeah,
I got an update that our closer, Luke's weaver for
the Yankees.

Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
Hit me with give me a social I am the danger. Well,
we will just keep it. They say death comes in threes.
So we had the news of John Redcorn's passing. Do
y'all remember the show Sports Science, Yes, started out on
Fox Sports that then uh Yes Science moved to ESPN. Yeah,

(01:39:33):
I think it was you know, it was always the
like why does a slider? Why does a knuckleball do
what it does? Or like explain literally.

Speaker 1 (01:39:42):
Kick like kick that is like almost like getting hit
by a car.

Speaker 2 (01:39:46):
I think he. I think they even did an episode
on a one of these international soccer coaches that had
kicked all of the players wives out of the team
hotel because he didn't want them having sex before the game.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
Science He's like, did their test go up? But you
guys did there mont term see if they're like, you.

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
Know, yeah on that thing? No, I yeah, John brincas
the founder and brain behind Emmy Award winning sports science program.

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
It was great, man.

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
I love it past uh at fifty four and it's
one of those obviously when you see an age that
young attached to the to the name of the deceased.
It it was it was not oh man, it was
not a natural. They showed they had fought depression for
a long time and.

Speaker 1 (01:40:43):
Said, I didn't know it was like that. I thought,
because I didn't see any cancer report. I was hoping
it wasn't something like that. But that's unfortunate, man. You know,
and May is uh self.

Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
You know, well it's June now, which means it's.

Speaker 1 (01:40:57):
Probably I'm saying, but back in May is mental health
Awareness month. I got a lot of friends who had
to deal with it. Everybody has, everybody's been affected with it.
So if you need someone, call someone.

Speaker 2 (01:41:08):
Okay, time out. Is it possible, We're just we're all
we're all friends here, We're all just talking about right, Okay,
hear me out all of these specific like not Pride
month excluded now that we're in Pride, but like a
mental health month or like some of these other months

(01:41:28):
that we have that aren't as creed driven and more.
Is it possible that for some people heightened talk about
the struggle for an entire month.

Speaker 1 (01:41:41):
You think it does more damage than good.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
Well, I'm just suggesting he.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
A lot of mental health is he did.

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
It right after the whole month that was talking about it.
And you know, I.

Speaker 1 (01:41:53):
Think I think having these maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
There's somebody to be made that you talk about it
too much that it is think about it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
It makes you think about it. But a lot of
the times it's because people feel alone. They don't feel
like they can talk to anybody. And when you bring
awareness to it, it's also saying, oh, like you're going
through the same thing. It's like when athletes and the
stars or talk about their breast cancer or something like that,
or the bride month coming out being like you have
these feelings too. You're not alone. So you know what

(01:42:23):
I'm does.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
Does a thirteen year old gay kid sitting on the
north side right now, is he good? Does he feel
so much better about life because the New England Patriots
made a post on social media.

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
I do not buy into monetizing this.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
It's just a lot of that. It's a lot of
what I'm saying, that's all I'm suggesting.

Speaker 1 (01:42:49):
I like to hear people's personal experiences, not an organization
that is there to profit to be like, hey, I
made a ring of bellow flag the san fran.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
Hat right, buy it right?

Speaker 1 (01:43:03):
You know I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
And we'll donate three percent of the proceeds to some.

Speaker 1 (01:43:07):
Do just just donate money?

Speaker 2 (01:43:09):
I just donate, I think my because I you know, obviously,
now every day as a culture war about something and
with Pride Month starting and all these teams doing you know, well,
this team posted, but this team didn't. All of this
back and forth.

Speaker 1 (01:43:22):
There's so many more people in the middle of this
situation where like I believe, like how I believe the
monetizing of it is.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
Discuss that's disgusting and you're and also some of the
same companies that monetized four years ago aren't monetizing now
because it's not good for business, not as good for
business now, So you never cared in the first place.
You're just doing what's best for your investors, and that's shitty.
But thinking about like the awareness aspect of it, you know,

(01:43:48):
like having an entire month of mental health awareness meant
it probably meant a lot more when we weren't constantly
online all day and one killing hurting our mental health
while also having all of this awareness that isn't actual.

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
It's all just that's a chicken in the egg, right,
that's kind of where. But like what it does do
when you have those.

Speaker 2 (01:44:16):
Months, if we were in the trust.

Speaker 1 (01:44:18):
Tree, Yeah, this is the trust tree. But what it does,
in my belief, is it brings it on the forefront,
and it also gets people to donate money to actual
good place, actual organizations that can actually go out there
to regular people to help them, you know, and make
them feel like they're not alone. Just like the same
thing with the Pride month right now, it's like, yeah,

(01:44:39):
let them have their fun, man like people like it,
but they get to go up and down the street
blah blah blah. So does Marti Gras, So does Mardi Gras.
We're gonna sit there and be like, what is Marti Gras?

Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
Buddy? I hate to break it to a lot of
the people that are against Pride month also don't like
the debauchery of Marty Gras exactly. It's kind of a
similar cup.

Speaker 1 (01:44:59):
Like why do I got to see a bunny on Easter?
I'm not buying into that anyway, We're going into the
But like anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:45:05):
Hold on third, third, death of the trifecta, because death
comes in three. We had John Redcorn, John Brincus, and
then here locally, the founder of Magnolia's Pancake House dropped
dead apparently, Yeah, mister pancake himself. Robert Fleming Junior died
over the weekend as well.

Speaker 1 (01:45:26):
Junior how old?

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
Was no word? And wasn't he wasn't old old? Oh man,
he wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:45:31):
They just moved the location right next to the next.

Speaker 2 (01:45:34):
That's a staple. Uh So I figured we'd close out
the rule of three there with little local one. That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:41):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:45:42):
On that note, LG give me an interstitial. Please, let's
do a little check in on European sports, where in
the French Open we have two Americans in both the
men's and the women's draw that have now made it
to the quarterfinals, first time an American man has been

(01:46:03):
in the quarterfinals since like three That's that's it was agacy. Yeah.
Well now luckily a lot of that uh joker still
in it. Joker one h Joker won today. He took
care of Burry. I think it was the brit But
we have Tiafo and Tommy Paul both in the quarters.

(01:46:25):
The unfortunate thing is, so Tommy Paul has to play
Alcaaz in the quarter that's that's gonna be. Yeah, And
you know, Ben Shelton, the other American, played Alcaaz really
really tough but just didn't have enough in the previous
round in the fourth round. And then Tiafo is playing
an Italian Mussetti. So if Tiafo and Paul, if Paul

(01:46:48):
gets the Alcaaz upset and and Tiaffo, there are all three.
So there was a little time. It was like a
five foot ten Italian guy that an American beat in
the first round, but his name was Gigante, so that
was yeah, we were the roommate and I were having
fun with that. So if both Americans were it's a

(01:47:10):
family name, it's a family name. So Americans would have
to play each other in the semis. But I think
both of both of the Americans are underdogs in their matches.
And then yeah, I was about the alca Az. I
would love to see Chiao versus Alcaaz in the semi.
That would be the first time in a long, long

(01:47:32):
long time that an American has made a semi elsewhere
in European sports. I actually had a friend that was
in Spain for the Formula One race this weekend. Shout
out Libby. She was over there on vacation and ended
up taking in the race. But also the biggest sporting
event that is not a World an Olympics or a

(01:47:56):
World Cup of either of any sport like no open
Champions League. So the Champions League final he was this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
Dude, they whooped him around like it was.

Speaker 2 (01:48:07):
It wasn't even it was and it was over fast.
It was psg up big in the first half. They
end up. Is it the oil they're owned by Katari royals. Yeah,
yeh yeh uh, Hey, we like the Katari these days.
Don't don't ask too many questions, don't ask too many questions.

Speaker 1 (01:48:25):
I ain't get in that damn plane. Let me let
me fly on.

Speaker 2 (01:48:28):
I just want a little bit of the money. PSG.
They end up beating Inter Milan five to nothing, biggest blowout.
But the thing that, you know, thinking a back, thinking
back to where soccer was twenty years ago when I
was in college to where it is now. Yeah, you know,
we had this Champions League Final being played on Big

(01:48:50):
CBS with full pregame, postgame coverage.

Speaker 1 (01:48:54):
I think we're gonna get some We're gonna get more
of that because of the World Cups coming next summer.

Speaker 2 (01:48:59):
Yeah, coming to the States. So this is like I
think the either the third or fourth year they put
the Champions League Final on Big CBS. Might it might
even be a couple of years more than that. But
for a quick comparison of anybody wondering, this is global
audience numbers. So we're talking everyone in the world, not

(01:49:19):
just US.

Speaker 1 (01:49:20):
Signals one hundred and twenty million people watch the Super
Bowl every year globally. Yeah, but they're like a billion
watch It's four hundred and fifty million watched the Champions
League Final game every single year.

Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
Oh my, almost half a billion people.

Speaker 1 (01:49:38):
There's a reason why there's seven games overseas this year.
Goodell just he doesn't like that. He doesn't like how football,
which he stole the name of, is still way little
brother to soccer.

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
Oh yeah, still to actually actual ball. But it's always
it's it's just say a little reminder that the world
is a lot bigger out there than sometimes, and you.

Speaker 1 (01:50:06):
Knowing they can be a little smaller. Give me in
a give me, hit me, hit me. I put that
picture up of our little twin over here. That is
starting a trend. Look at little young Puma. What look
at young Puma right here? Man, got the hat going on,
got the stash going on right hold on? Oh my god,

(01:50:27):
it's got the you know, the shirt going on. That
that that wiry little stash he's got there. Okay, I
saw him out in the wild man. I always see
that little cute little horn hat. So the hat looks
strikingly similar strikingly.

Speaker 2 (01:50:44):
It almost looks like he's wearing like a rattlesnake skin shirt,
which I'm kind of jealous of, to be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:50:50):
He hasn't started the full commitment of just not cutting
his hair anymore, which I would have been like, don't
cut your hair. I walked by him and whispered in
his ear.

Speaker 2 (01:50:58):
That you're a stranger taking pictures of him at the bar.
I went to his poor his wife or girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (01:51:05):
Sitting He's young to have a wife.

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
This guy behind me is taking literally literally took.

Speaker 1 (01:51:12):
Literally took the picture.

Speaker 2 (01:51:13):
Well, let me see if I get I was like this,
I held it up. I was like, uhli.

Speaker 1 (01:51:18):
Even the bartender was like, hey, thanks for making it weird.

Speaker 2 (01:51:23):
Yeah. The bartender thinks you're just taking a creep shot.
He's like, no, I promise, I'm taking a picture of
this man sitting down who looks like my buddy, but
only sightly.

Speaker 1 (01:51:33):
You are becoming a fad, sir.

Speaker 2 (01:51:35):
I've got I've got it. I've had a few doppel
gangers over the years. That mad American curling dude was
a good one. Man. There's a guy here, bat white
guy with the beard.

Speaker 1 (01:51:45):
I got doppel gang. Can people can buy me jelly roll?

Speaker 2 (01:51:49):
And I'm like this guy, get some get some face arts, a.

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
Little face, tats and everything. He's got like a elongated face,
I got a round face. I'm like, dude, he's like
five ft eight, I'm like six foot four. I'm I'm like, dude.
The only thing we got in commons were white and
we're fat and we have a beard.

Speaker 2 (01:52:04):
I was like, what that's about that guy? He had
a hat that looked like mine. He wore a shirt similar.

Speaker 3 (01:52:12):
Wasn't there a picture that looked just like you?

Speaker 2 (01:52:14):
Oh yeah, there's a couple of those, I think. Uh,
I think one of them, Mike Clevenger is one.

Speaker 3 (01:52:19):
That's the one. That's the one.

Speaker 2 (01:52:21):
I think he's had some red flags pop up in
his life lately. Uh, that makes that one a little
less fun.

Speaker 1 (01:52:28):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:52:29):
There's a guy in my neighbor that someone at the
gas station swears is my doppelganger, And I think I
know who they're talking about because I know him. And
it's like kind of like you said, it's like, okay, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:52:42):
One that actually has my government name, you know, And
that's what we were, is not the Captain ye like
with the with the fucking verbiage on the end, which
is the nickname. And I'm like, I was like, oh
my god, I got a doppel ganger with the same name.

Speaker 2 (01:52:59):
I'm like, yeah, that feels like more like you have
a potential body swap. Yeah, like someone about yeah, someone
about to take you out and live your life, LG,
give me one final interstitial what what's happening? So we
have been teasing closing out the shows with a little

(01:53:20):
what we're gonna call What's happening Bomb's Corner we h
if you don't remember e Bomb's World was an old,
early website that just had a bunch of random crap
on it every day, like you would. It was kind
of like a Reddit before I knew what any of
us knew what Reddit was.

Speaker 1 (01:53:40):
TikTok with comments.

Speaker 2 (01:53:41):
Yeah it was. It was a big you know, it
was like world Star actually is what it was like,
you know, like that. It was about the same time,
and so I thought I got the idea of anytime
just an old video or something that reminded me of
that era of life, or even a little earlier, anytime
that would cross my timeline, we'd save it and do

(01:54:02):
it here to close out shows. So we don't have
time for the whale video.

Speaker 1 (01:54:06):
It's long, but the mythical, the never ending whale video
that we will get to just dangling like a carrot
right over your mouth. You gotta be fascinating that.

Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
The state of either Oregon or Washington one time thought
it was a good idea to stuff a bunch of
dynamite inside of a whale.

Speaker 1 (01:54:25):
Amorete.

Speaker 2 (01:54:28):
But tonight we're gonna close with As hard as it
is to believe, at one point in time, when you
got stuck in a video game, you couldn't just google
the answer.

Speaker 1 (01:54:41):
Oh no, you just if you didn't, you lose your mind.

Speaker 2 (01:54:44):
You didn't have a friend who had already beat it
to tell you how to do it, Or you didn't
buy the full walk through booklet that was usually as
a bible exactly. If all of that was not available,
you had one last option, the game Genie. Well, game

(01:55:06):
Genie is just cheating. We can't what do you think, Well,
you're asking for help, You're not rewriting code, LG. Do
you have this ready?

Speaker 1 (01:55:16):
This is what Oh my god, that looks so familiar.

Speaker 2 (01:55:19):
This is what you had available to you if you
got stuck in a video game. The guy you called
from the back of the Nintendo Power magazine. There was
an ad again back in the day Nintendo magazine. Dude,
Oh my.

Speaker 1 (01:55:38):
God, I got I got buzzed.

Speaker 2 (01:55:40):
For calling them once and I got my as it
wasn't cheap, it wasn't cheap fire This off LG. This
is what it sounded like.

Speaker 1 (01:55:47):
Hi Nintendo, this is Craig.

Speaker 2 (01:55:49):
How can I help you?

Speaker 1 (01:55:50):
Oh yeah, I was wont to inquire about the legend
of jail.

Speaker 2 (01:55:53):
I was wonting to you go about getting the store.

Speaker 5 (01:55:56):
Okay, before I answered that question, can I tell you something.
It's possible that we might be on ABC News. Okay,
you and I having this conversation, right, do you object
to that? No, no problem, terrific.

Speaker 2 (01:56:08):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:56:08):
So you're looking for the White Sword and Zelda.

Speaker 2 (01:56:10):
Well, I know where it is, but I can't get
my hands on it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:12):
Which question you in the first question?

Speaker 2 (01:56:15):
Okay, well you know where it is? Yeah, all right,
what do you need to have?

Speaker 1 (01:56:18):
Are twelve heart containers?

Speaker 5 (01:56:19):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:56:20):
And that's the only thing? Okay, I got twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:56:23):
Well, then you should be able to get it.

Speaker 5 (01:56:24):
You just walk up and you present yourself to the
gentleman and you'll give you the sort.

Speaker 2 (01:56:29):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:56:30):
I love how I was just playing another game.

Speaker 1 (01:56:32):
So there's a couple of the graves that don't have
a genie, and is any way you can get in
there to move when.

Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
You can say the move? No, that's something that will
it's either left over from the previous quest or a
game the next quest. That's okay, great, appreciate your twelve
parts twelve. You're quite welcome. Yeah, I think it's so. Yeah,

(01:56:59):
as you pointed out there, LG. So this super Norde
is answering the Nintendo Power hotline asking or answering questions
about original legend of Zelda while he's playing kid Us
without missing a single beat.

Speaker 1 (01:57:16):
I mean, that was one of those games. Zelda was
always one I could never get all the way through. Well,
and also Zelda was difficult.

Speaker 2 (01:57:23):
The fact that the fact that that guy totally wasted
his call too because he called in and the.

Speaker 1 (01:57:32):
Just present yourself to that man, present yourself?

Speaker 2 (01:57:37):
What a weird phrase.

Speaker 1 (01:57:40):
Just go to this man around the corner and present yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:57:43):
Well, it's even better because it's good. Go to this
shadowy man in the cave and present yourself. Where you
can get the white sword if you have.

Speaker 1 (01:57:53):
The twelve local news in this tunnel. This kid presented
himself to a man.

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
Yeah, usually presenting your self is uh, what happens to
get the water sword or the white the white sword? Yes,
the white sword, the white Yeah, I uh, why.

Speaker 1 (01:58:09):
Is that the best sword?

Speaker 2 (01:58:10):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (01:58:11):
Is there a black sword.

Speaker 2 (01:58:12):
Huh yes, and it's way more It's way bigger and
way more powerful. On that note, LG, get us the
hell out of here. Long live Nintendo Power, Long live
the sports game. As always, I appreciate y'all following along.
Find me on x at, Biggest Puma on Instagram Biggest

(01:58:32):
Dot Puma. We'll be back Wednesday night.

Speaker 1 (01:58:35):
Hey, I'm on Instagram, Captain to one, the Captain two
one oh. I will work on that twitch and TikTok crap.

Speaker 2 (01:58:43):
I love the fact that you potentially you are our
entry to TikTok. Well we'll built that out all right.
That'll be it for Monday night. Appreciate y'all riding along
till Wednesday. Peace, be good kids. What do we say
about drugs? Hoia? You do stay holy? Yeah,
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