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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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I noticed your I did notice your closer Instagram.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, dude, I'm learning stuff Like after I leave here,
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Teaching me a lot of stuff.

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do you do how do you do that that little
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The martial arts senseay of social media.

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we need. And I'm glad you were out there doing
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our social.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Media present figured out what. Oh really, Yeah, I'm still
a mystery on there.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Man. They don't know me. That's good.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Well, that means we're doing a good job. We're doing
a great job. That's some you know, it's like.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
It's like a long marriage, like you know, once you know,
everything not as much fun.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Yeah, you gotta have a little bit of mystery.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Uh. As always on Wednesdays, we start with a little
bit of what I watched and and I think I
am ready to declare last night yesterday was the worst
sports on TV the day of the year so far
for the Yankees. It was brutal, well outside of baseball,

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which we're gonna have. And I say that, I kind
of you know how many days we're gonna have of this.
It's just well, that's that's what I mean. Like, I
kind of I don't count baseball yet necessarily because I'm
already thinking about the entire month of July where all
I'm gonna do is watch baseball draft after the All
Star break, and once I start going down that daily

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baseball viewing routine, it's not nearly as it's. It's like
last last night, it was just so jarring that there
wasn't some kind of meaningful playoff or n C DOUAA
tournament game to watch because.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
You were getting the sports gang banged over this.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
What it was?

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Yeah, it was, you know it was.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
We had you know, hockey, basketball, college baseball, women's softball. Okay,
so we did. Yeah, last night, did have women's lad
I saw.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
What orgon God I did. Did we talk about the
organ player God just nailed in the face. We talked
about that on a couple episodes ago.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, Well there was the other play too where the
organ pitcher as she was throwing it, a clod of
dirt from her cleat flew up and the ball hit
the clod of dirt, similar to like the Randy Johnson
hitting the pigeon or hitting the bird that flew by,
but it happened right in front of the plate. So
the catcher is, you know, framing getting ready to catch

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and then all of a sudden, this dirt claud just
explodes and goes right into her eye. She was able
to catch it, but it was one of those once
in a million gods.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
But no, last night it was.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
The the Lady Red Raiders that got their guns up
and beat the four time defending champion Oklahoma.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Sooner I mentioned that on Monday, Man, I was excited.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
How I can't fake it. I mean, I just like,
there's yeah, I mean, I got nothing for it, Oklahoma.
Any any sport where a team can win four straight
national championships already kind of tells me, well, you know why.
It's like Tennessee pat Summit. Back in the day at
Tennessee where there's just no competition.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
They had this one big, old, big old picture uh
that just dominated for them for four years. It's one
of the reasons why they won four straight championships as
well as getting all the talents, because of this one
pitcher that was throwing like fifteen miles an hour higher
than any other pitcher and then just dropped a nasty.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Curve or a curveball on you and just and f
you ou.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
It feels, you know, especially college softball more because I
was I saw.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
The stat the other day.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Apparently, you know, I knew nothing about it going into it.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
But the the Tech.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Softball team is like the biggest nil investment in women's
softball this year.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
So they paid the most money.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Of all the Yeah, Tech has Tech has one dude
who just sold his oil and natural gas company for
like four point six four point eight billion dollars and
he's just funding the Tech nil collective all of it.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
And he's like, that's just softball. He's almost like a
creepy like all of it just the soft off.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Well, that's why they they've had their best recruiting classes
in history and football back to back years. Obviously the
basketball team was what Elite eight or Sweet sixteen. This
year they've been they've been good for Yeah, they were
Elite eight. They should have been in the they should
have beat Florida. But the women's softball team apparently they
got Uh there's a really good pitcher. She was at Stanford.

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They paid like one and a half million dollars to
bring her to Lubbock and right and they on the season.
She has thirty five wins home one season. Again, things
I didn't realize about women's softball, there's no they can
throw basically every game. I guess that under that undersign,

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and that's why they can throw one hundred and twenty
one hundred and thirty pitches.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
I guess that doesn't give you as bad as the elbow. Yeah,
that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
So like getting ball like god, you know.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
I think as most of people my age, I really
only got into softball with Arizona's was it Arizona States? No,
Arizona's Jenny Finch?

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Oh yeah, the old Arizona or oh god, what was
the kat Oasterman? The Texas pitcher? Yeah, those are about
about the only softball names I can think of. The
Tracker now they yet Tech led by that one. You
mentioned the Oklahoma pitcher that carried them to four national championships.

(10:52):
Well Tech now has a pitcher that has carried them
to their first appearance in the Women's College World.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Series play Texas.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
In the final I mentioned that in All Texas Finally
it is Yeah, that's fun.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
I mean sure, surprisingly I know a lot of Texas
Tech fans, Like there's there's a group of them around here.
I don't know if there's just like a transfer, if
that's just a anomaly or whatever.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Well, I mean like I'm obviously, you know, married to
a born and raised Lubbock citizen that went to Tech.
But that you know, she's the ope, She's the inverse
of you know, growing up there and now living here.
I don't know without My first guest would be there's
a lot of people that want to get as far
away from home as they can but not leave the state.
So they go to the pan So they go to Lubbock.

(11:43):
It's just the you know, El Paso maybe, but yeah, no,
they're Tech. Tech has a strong alumni base all over
the all over the state. But the only other thing
besides softball. Yesterday I did watch a lot of the
French Open, been watching a lot of tennis because all
of the I think I mentioned it before, but the

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job that TNT or Max is doing, I think they're
doing great.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
So when does the games usually come on?

Speaker 1 (12:13):
So the window is like, well now we're into now
we're into the semis. So it's it's the window had
been from like four am till four pm all day.
It was just on in the background.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
See that's why I like it. I like the man.
But the British Open is like the same times.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
It's like it's something to watch from one to two,
well right one, like twelve to two or something like that.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
My favorite one is the Australian Open for Tennis because
it always starts right when the bar is closed, so
like I would always when I lived in when I
was at Texas State, I would we would close down
the bar, but you got something to watch. Go home
and watch watch tennis, as riveting as that sounds as
a college experience. But the men's side of the break

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it actually we're gonna get Djokovic versus Sinner as one
of the semi final matchups, which so you're telling me
the kid the Spaniard didn't make it.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
He's the other side.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
He's the Alcaaz and Mussetti okay, the Italian if you
couldn't guess by the name. So hopefully we get a
Alcaaz versus either Joker or Sinner. Number one American, right, Italian.
He's Italian as well his ginger. He looks Irish, but
he's Italian.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
So all all the Americans went out in the quarter.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yeah, uh, Tommy Paul got demolished by Alcaaz and Tiaffo
lost to Mussetti. The Italian so and there was a
little bit of controversy in that Mussetti actually kicked a
ball during the match that hit a official, hit a linesman.
That's a disqualification usually it is usually, and that's what

(13:57):
Tiafo said after the match. Did they gave him a birth?
So it was joker in twenty twenty I think it
was twenty twenty and it was the US Open and
he hit a ball and it hit a lines it
hit one of the judges in the throat, and he
got disqualified. That's the last big one I can oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Because he hit it hard, because he turned around and
he was mad.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
This one was more of a like it wasn't it
was a kit so it wasn't you.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Don't know where it's going to go. It's but still
tennis ball.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
If rules are rules rules, We live in a society exactly,
and that's what Tiapo was saying after the match. But
to no avail in a society, he goes down. So
all the Americans are out. We did a cocoa golf
on the women's side. She just made it into the semis,

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so still at least one American alive in the bracket.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
But anybody else that we would know on the women's side.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Or Sabalinka, the number one play in the world. She's
in it.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Swhite Tuck, Swhite fight Teck.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
However you say her name, that's who Sabolenka is playing,
which should be a good matchup. But hopefully on the
women's side, it'd be great to see Coco versus Sabolenka
in the final.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
I can't lie.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
I love tennis. I mean with this kind of frame,
tennis was the hobby all the time, playing.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Throwing out because yeah, you didn't we didn't have to
run far. We could just sit there and stretch exactly,
believe it or not. In my in my heyday, which
was like probably five years ago, I used to be
I used to go out and play tennis to get
to work out. I can see it's a great workout,
and it was just the thing is I could make
the other person run because I knew the angles, I
knew the geometry, I knew how to top spin, I
knew how to drop shot.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
So that's who my dad was growing up.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
My dad was.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
You know, he's he's built more like a lumberjack. He's
like five like five ten, five eleven, but stout lumberjack build,
and he his whole goal anytime we played tennis growing
up was to stand in one.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
Spot for as long as possible.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
That's the goal. You drive me insane, It would drive
me insane.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
You get me running, you're you're winning. Yeah, yeah, that's
just take the point.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
But now, besides the besides the softball in the tennis,
as riveting as that was, as you mentioned, we did
have some Major league baseball, and we're not gonna we
got all summer to talk baseball. So I don't want
to go too deep into it. But tell me if
you've heard this before. Rangers' bats go missing, they only

(16:33):
score one run, they lose five to one in Tampa,
which we're going to.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
I want to talk about that stadium here a second.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
One job, one job. The Rangers are now nine and
nineteen on the road this year, and they're already losing
again tonight.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
You guys got it. You guys got to give up
on those pictures. I'm just saying, just give up one
the pictures. Give it to the Yankees.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Okay, it's certainly not going to the Yankees if they
do anything. Uh. The only bright spot you could take
out of the game last night. The one run the
Rangers did score, A Doley scored it after he actually
got a hit on uh, he was able to get
a hold of a fastball outside, which usually is something

(17:21):
he's in his shot the other way. Yeah, I just
poked it the other way, So a Dooley's after a
four game benching. Doles gets a hit now and scores
the only run. But yeah, they can't generate any offense.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Quick, No, who's the second team?

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Because obviously the Rangers are the first team, I like,
the worst at scoring runs.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Who's the one above them? I mean my first guess
would just be Colorado Cleveland Indians. Really yeah, I found
that out yesterday watching the game. And right now they
got there are four to roh on us. Man, we
are the ones who can't score a run.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Oh yeah, like their pitchers like or like two and
four and wins and stuff like that. But like they're
keeping like over the last nine games or keeping like
under a two eer like the I think they average
two point three runs a game or something like that.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah, that's that's well, that's right where the Rangers are too.
So yeah, I think the only the only pitcher in
baseball that possibly has more to complain about than any
of the Rangers starters is poor Paul Schemes. In Pittsburgh,
there was a lot of PE's in a row in
a row. He it's somehow as dominant as he is

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as he's been, has a losing record because that Pittsburgh
team is you can't score any runs for him. But
the main takeaway again last night watching a little bit
of that game in Tampa, I don't think it's being
talked about enough.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
How ridiculous it is.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
A major League baseball season is being played at a
spring training facility. It's not even a minor league ballpark.
It's a spring training ballpark.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, Like, I don't like a you're taking away from
the fans that want to go there be God knows
what the facility looks like. See as we already know
from Judge getting robbed a home run, they don't even
have the correct.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Like the goal like the Yeah, the facility is not
up to the level. It's not.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
And we saw the specs man.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Last night as well. Uh, you know there was a
question with a ball whether it went over the fence
or not. Yeah. Uh, And there's just no there's no
replay angles like you have in a regular you just
can't see things.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
So yeah, there's a part of.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Me, you know, the I'm glad it was more close
than that one because they found an angle with the
one which the.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Judge went where it was obvious. Yeah, and for some
reason it was clear.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
It came like it came a little later because I
guess in the spring training the feed to the media
truck is slower as well.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
But like all of a sudden, it was, oh, so
you can't angle.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
They got that replay angle because they already called it.
They called it the foul. Then they go and challenge it,
and then they sit in there trying to get the
replay angles, and they're waiting and they're waiting and waiting,
and finally like they called it again and then they
showed this angle that was clear as day that it
was a home run. And it was just like I mean,
and I mentioned the and we got two teams doing

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it right.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
But there is at least to me in my head,
maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like there is some
level of difference between playing in an actual minor league
stadium that has had a baseball team play full seasons
in it versus playing in a spring training complex like

(20:45):
the Razar. At least Oakland is playing in a proper
baseball facility. It's not a practice field. Tampa is a
it's a practice field. It's a You can't say anything
higher than that. You can't give it any level of compliment.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
That I know you want to keep the field near
the actual where the team plays. But NFL has moved
New Orleans down to San Antonio. That's you know, that's
eight hours away, so that's some semi close. But then
you had New Orleans also the boat Katrina go to
ok See. Like, if you've got to go to another
state to get a proper field, go to another state.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, especially when you're you're Tampa right there, so you're
not like down at the bottom of the state like
Miami or anything like that. Like you're somewhere in that
right You could somewhere in that southern you know triangle
right there or quadrant of you know, Georgia, Alabama, somewhere
in there, you could have surely found something better than

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where they're at.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
I will say that's the Gulf of America, sir, Oh,
that's sure, let's go with that.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
The one thing about the Oakland situation. I don't know
if y'all saw this a couple of weeks ago. I
meant to send LG the video back when it happened,
but the Oakland a's manager got ejected, and it hadn't
I guess occurred to anybody. He has to walk from
the dugout all the way down the foul line to

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the out to the gate that is on the outfield fence,
so he gets ejected all the time, cussing to himself
under his breath.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
Yeah, I mean, do you do a light jog like
I mean, I would least try to jog it off,
or I'm just gonna sit there and walk and just
this I FM the whole.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Time, you know, Like remember when you were a kid
when it would be like I'm gonna walk as slows
as like like I would absolutely because what are you
gonna do?

Speaker 4 (22:47):
Kick me out again? You've already ejected me.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
I don't know how many of my little, my little
leaguers that I used to coach, I'm like, come on, run,
I know you missed that ball, but come running running
from the out And they went running.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
I'm like, run, run, run, run. Now you're not getting
You're not getting any more effort out of that. But yeah, man,
just every time, every time I see any of the
clips from these games in Tampa, it just feels like
and I again, I understand it was because of the
you know storm hurricane that hit the Trot, but surely

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this it feels in a very Tampa Bay way, this
feels like it was just the cheapest option.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Dude, what are you gonna do deny the two thousand
fans that actually go to the games?

Speaker 4 (23:35):
Ye see?

Speaker 1 (23:36):
And that's the other shame of it, because the rate like.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Give another town a chance to like prove, like we
try to prove to New Orleans that or when New
Orleans that we needed a NFL team here in San Antonio,
so we try to show out, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
When there was like the like five games here.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
They're not showing out for the Bramos right now, that's
not really my parking for.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Any of those games. Nobody wants had a discount his parking.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
It's discounted to just free. Just bring me lunch or
something you got eluci for me. Yeah. If okay, if
you could move Tampa, if you could on paper right
down where you wanted Tampa to go tomorrow, where would you?

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Oh, I would go one with one of the Carolinas.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Really yeah, like a, I think North Carolina and South
Carolina are some of the fastest growing cities, Charlotte and
Charlotte because they're they got the you got the coastal
region there, so you got the coast close. But then
also it's not overpopulated. You're still kind of country, but

(24:49):
then they're like upgrading it. So what any any of
the Carolinas.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
That's you know, I've never thought about that, how there's
not there's not a pro baseball team and either one
of the carouse that's all like you think about college
based like Coastal Carolina is hosting a super regional, just
one their regional that they hosted. South Carolina's won national
championships in college baseball. Uh. North Carolina is always in

(25:13):
the tournament Duke one there like it's a baseball hotbed.
I've never I've never thought about the fact that there's not.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
It's not like it's Nebraska or something.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
I was gonna say, it's funny, I was gonna say
Nashville because the room the roommate just got back from
a trip to Nashville, and she always talks about how that'd.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
Be a great, that'd be a great. It's a baseball town.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
City, a baseball city to match the you know, just
the vibe of the city too.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
It's it's baseball. I mean, Tennessee doesn't even have a
baseball team. No, I guess Nashville.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
The Titans claim Nashville, right, yeah, yeah, okay, but no baseball.
And what was it the Nashville Sounds longtime minor league
baseball team there has a lot of a lot of tradition,
but in the region.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
Facilities better than the one they're playing.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
And now, yeah, well what was it the so they
used to be the Brewers minor There was a team
that had to play a couple of games at their
stadium not that long ago. And it is one of
the nicer minor league facilities.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
It's about to be a real nice one in Eerie
because that's where John Oliver picked.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
I forgot that.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
I can't wait for that.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, that should be.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
That should be good.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
But besides that, I mean, like I said, it's I'm
ready to declare it the worst sports on television day
of the year tonight. As we sit here we do
have the Stanley Cup Finals kicking off where Panthers are
already up three to one at the start of the
second period. And but but let me before we rush

(26:48):
to eliminate the Oilers or make any grand proclamations that
this series is over.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
I will say if I did, if I don't get.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
The Stars in the Stanley Cup Final, this is the matchup.
Oh as I say that Oilers just scored three to two. Now,
Connor mcjesus, Yeah, mcjesus is inevitable if I can't have
the Stars in it. This is the matchup I wanted
because we saw you know last year. Well, first of all, mcjesus,
we get to see the best player in the world

(27:22):
play in the Stanley Cup finals.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
The Panthers are the defending champions, back to trying to
go back to back. This is actually their third straight
appearance in the finals. They lost the first appearance, won
last year against the Oilers. But specifically, you know, last year,
this series went Florida games one, two, and three, and

(27:47):
then Edmonton's Game four, five, and six. So Florida was
up three to zero. Edmonton comes back, right, and so
that's why I say I think.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
There's probably at the time at the time watching it,
but like it forget it resonates. Like I was even
trying to think, like, when did the Phillies win the
World Series?

Speaker 4 (28:07):
It was two years ago, right, I mean that sounds
sounded because Dodgers was last year, two.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Years ago was Rangers, so it has to at least
be three years ago.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Well, you're not not the Rangers. I'm talking baseball.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Oh I thought you said Phillies, that's what you're thinking
of the Flyers. No, you're thinking of the Flyers. I
think where you're thinking of two different things. Scratch that, LG.
Dump all of that. Dump all of that. The only
other thing I mentioned going back to Monday's episode, uh

(28:44):
told the story of the guy that was having issues
with where I was standing at the concert. And look,
I understand bringing these stories to the pod. Uh, there
is a common denominator in all of these moments of confrontation,
and it's me because I'm the one that's telling these stories.

(29:06):
But I guarantee you I saw a guy sarcastically mentioned that,
and he's not wrong, absolutely not wrong. But uh, I
think the greater takeaway and I was talking to the
roommate about this on the drive home from the airport
earlier today, because you know, airports are one of the
last places on Earth where it truly is a it's

(29:28):
it's a thunderdome. I mean, it is a death match.
People running with suitcases, kids everywhere. Everyone's either ready to
you know, running late for a flight or ready to
be home from a trip.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
They're either drunk or wired on coffee exactly everyone. It's
just not it's it's it's.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Just not a it's not a location that brings out
the best in humans.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
You know, the best airport I ever seen is Salt
Lake City.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Those Mormons, yeah, say that doesn't surprise me, y, But
with her traveling, it's always the you know, she'll be
walking down a sidewalk or like even in the grocery store.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
That's another place that brings out the worst in people.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
So when you're walking and two people are walking towards
each other, one of those people is expected to move
out of the way.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Oh, now do you lock eyes or do you act
like you're looking somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
So this is what the roommate said, and I thought,
I think she described it perfect. Of ninety percent of
the time. Most people just move on their own, just
like I don't. I don't need this. I'll get out
of the way. I'm getting out of the way. Yeah,
but that one out of ten time is when it
becomes it escalates, becomes a confrontation. I'm the kind of

(30:49):
guy that it's no ninety ten split, it's a ten
ninety split. There is one time I will get out
of the way. Ninety other percent of the time, like
you said, we're having we're locking eyes, we're coming to
some nonverbal agreement on how we're going to traverse past
each other.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
And I again, I understand whoever looks away first is
the one movement.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah, you broke, you got to get out of the way.
Like I understand, I'm the common denominator here, but I
think a lot of it is people just don't give
a damn about being decent to each other anymore.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
It's a lot of that. Everyone is.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
When you're at a call, there's no there's no fear
of repercussions or accountability. If you want to be a dick,
if you want to be a jerk, who's going to
do anything about it?

Speaker 4 (31:35):
And I'm not.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Suggesting I am the last defender of decency dying on
this wall. It's just more of I cannot stand being
disrespected by strangers.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
It's the injustice of it.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Just like so that's why I'm sure Curb your Enthusiasm
is one of your favorite shows.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
That is my one. I hate this, I hate this.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
This is untenable, no good, this is untenable.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
So sweet John Hamm acting like Larry David was one
of the greatest things in the world.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Like I understand, like the roommate told me, most people
it's not worth it to them to ever say anything
and just let the jerk be a jerk and move
on with your lives. That was the wife. Man.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
I can't live like that.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Man, I would confrontation like. It's not like I it
fueled me. It's just never scared me. No, Like I'm
just I'm always like that one old lady that sits
there and cuts in line. Excuse me, excuse me miss
miss Oh.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah. I was like, yeah, there's a line here. Oh.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
I was like, don't act like you can't hear me.
I'll go over there and tap on you.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
See, Okay, there is a there is some arbitrary line
where like I'm not standing at the express checkout and
being like, no, that's twelve items, it's ten or less,
you've got twelve Like I'm not I'm not that Like
I'm not searching it out.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
You're not super super Karen.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
No, No, it's not a Karen whatsoever. It's only when
it starts to affect me personally, like a guy standing
in front of my wife at a concert. It's almost
not even me if it is. If it's affecting a total.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Stranger that I see that is super non confrontational, like
and I see like someone just gets super nervous and
like super that that that triggers me, that will that
will kick me into captain save a whole time. I'm
just like, hey, hey, no, you gotta get your butt

(33:37):
back in the line right there, sir.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
You're more of a superhero than I am. There. Because
if it if it's not affecting me, this is kind
of this is honestly basically my mantra on life. If
it's not affecting me or someone I care about, I
don't really give a damn. Like I'm not stepping in.
I'm not evolving myself in someone else's business. Did you
ever bounce at bars?

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Or Okay, I think it's the bouncer in me where
it's like if you're causing a commotion and clearly you're
the problem.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
I work security at like concerts, and that's the closest
I could ever.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Where you have to kick someone out, like if they're
starting to yell, or if there's someone's being irate and
you can tell that they're completely drunken, hammerd and you just.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Like get out of here.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
And I'm like, if I can crush this situation, And
like nine times out of like ninety five percent of
the times when there was a fight, I could kill
a fight with just raising my voice and just being intimidating.
It's the it's the totally like they could have been
a martial arts expert and totally whooped my butt, you
know what I'm saying. But it was just the you

(34:40):
like you bark at them. You know, it's the animal
kingdom right there. I'm just like I could kill confrontations easily,
and then as soon as you yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
As soon as.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Their guard is like oh no, shattered.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
Then I'll build them up kind of like the pimp game,
you know, you break them down to build them up.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Be like, look, you're in the wrong. But it's all right, sir,
all right, we can come back from this, but don't
cross that line again. Well I'm gonna get real mad,
but we'll come back from this.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
I uh is Wayne Brady going to have the choke
a bitch.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Exactly if I'm getting paid to do it.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
That makes it slightly different.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
But that's about the only time you will see me
uh stepping into those situations.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
But I think most people.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Out there that hear these stories you have, you have
stuff like that happened to you every day. You're just
choosing not to.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
It's like the people will someone who doesn't want to
tell the person with their feet bulkhead on an airline, Yeah, exactly.
Like I've been like, nah, that's disgusting. Yeah, you gotta stop,
like the eighteenth row being like that's disgusting.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
Put your shoes on.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah that.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
I just can't.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
I can't let it stand that love as as the
dude that level of aggression will not stand like I'm
And that's the other that's the juxtaposition of it because
like A like obviously I'm not out there looking for
action like that, like.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I wish, I wish MF or would, but yeah, I'm
just like, if it comes up, I'm not shying away
from the moment.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Yeah, I'm certainly not gonna stand down.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
But besides that, the greatest ones, like the greatest ones
are when it's a very attractive girl and you can
tell that they have never been talked to like that
in their lives. That is like, ma'am, you are wrong,
You're out of control. You need to leave.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
They and they look at you and they're confused for
a minute. They get that little wide idea look like
what just happened?

Speaker 2 (36:42):
And then and then I just I repeat myself and
I'm like, you are out of control.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
And then all of a sudden they're like, well, who
are you?

Speaker 2 (36:50):
And then they started of course I've always get called fat,
and I'm a good one.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
I'm like nice, I was like, you're short? Cool? What
are we doing here?

Speaker 1 (37:00):
It reminds me of the like tender. Apparently now is
allowing you to filter by height. Oh really, yeah, for
like if you're a girl looking for like, oh he's
under six three.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
No way, Like, dude, I never realized how height was
such an advantage for the for game when I was younger, Like,
I never had like a father figure. I never had
a guy. I never had a father figure show me
gain and I had just learned on my own. And
like I never knew height was like a trump card
for like everything, and I should have played that one.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, I was about to say, I mean, I regret
so much. It's one of the few things that I
had working in my favorite probably had your dad telling you, son,
you were six foot seven y I had my dad
constantly reminding me of what he would have done if
he had been my height. And that's a true story.
Before we get into some of your show ideas that

(37:55):
we've been talking about behind the scenes, LG, we got
to talk about the hopeful pending a rival of your
most recent big purchase, and of course by that, I'm
referring to the glorious Nintendo switch to that comes out.

Speaker 5 (38:15):
Yes with with Mario Kart Open World Mario Kart.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
On a on a scale of one to ten, how high, like,
how excited are you?

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Honestly like a three?

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Really, he's such a liar.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
I'm telling you now, Sports World, this man, he is
his buttholes puckered for the next two days until he
gets this switch.

Speaker 5 (38:38):
It'll be fine, but I'm more interested in, like what
they have in store for newer you know, newer first
party games, new Zelda yea after Yeah, I hope they
go away from the open world of Zelda and go back.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
To the roots.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
But that's a whole other story.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
It would be interesting.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
I mean, I'm curious back when two Dean though, like
another like uh Ocarina of Time.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
I want something like that.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yeah, that would I actually I kind of support that idea.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
Never played it, missing out man, but yeah, hopefully Walmart delivers.
There's been all sorts of cases being posted on Reddit
of canceled orders from Walmart.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
Yeah, that's what I saw.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Yeah, so we'll see.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
I was going I was going to ask you how
I'm gonna try to like I'm trying to get some
people with robing some Walmart trucks.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
I was gonna ask who you pre ordered through, because
I think Walmart right now probably has the worst track
record of what I've been saying.

Speaker 5 (39:37):
Not good, definitely not good. But months Mone still says pending.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
So we'll see. Well, if it does actually make it here,
I would assume we're going to see some of that
maybe pop up on the old twitch Strea.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah, we'll do some some Mario Kard on Twitch for sure.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
I played some of that one.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
I played the Trio card, but like Sitting Down for
Zelda or the one that He's car time committed, that's.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
A solo player. Both of those games are solo.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
You're playing the dark and don't tell anybody.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
H you twitch it out for the millions to see,
right exactly and go viral as the as you're crying exactly.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
So sad.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
I can see something.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
I can see some.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Quad Box Mario Kart between the three of us and
the roommate on on a Twitch stream sometimes soon because
I will be let the explits this explits its fly. Yeah,
there you go.

Speaker 5 (40:33):
Well it's gonna be online too, so there's gonna be
a lot of I'm gonna get my mom jokes and
racist cussing from seven year olds, you know, over and
over and over.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
The one like when the when the I think it
was the Wii when it first came out, and I,
for the first time ever fired up a Mario Kart
online race. I'm not kidding you. Every single person in
the lobby I was in that I was racing against.
We're all designed to look like Hitler. Jesus, Yes, and

(41:10):
quickly I was like, they let the hat, they let
that little stash in there. That's what you could create,
your own you can create, you can like shave it
for what.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
You can put exactly. It's me, It made me.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
It's there's two parts of me here because the the
true actual liberal in me says, don't I don't like
the censorship or the removal of anything. Let society determine.
Let's again going back to the problem with people. Everyone
just doesn't care about being decent anymore. Used to public

(41:43):
shaming of stupid crap like that would be enough to
stop people from doing it. Those days are dead.

Speaker 6 (41:49):
You know.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
That was my first thought when Minecraft came out, and
I'm like, how many Swasikas got built?

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Right? Yeah, Like there's and a Nintendo of all companies,
like if it's call of Dude or something like that.
I understand that they don't give it, they just want
to make money. But Nintendo, their whole ethos is still
generating for the young family and young kids.

Speaker 5 (42:11):
They jumped over that line when they allowed a hint
tie to be released on the current switch.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (42:20):
God, they threw the morals out the window on the
on this last switch edition, so different for the two.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Okay, you know, to explain to like a couple of
friends of mine that are mothers, that'd be like, your
kid's gonna watch something that's gonna totally gross you out.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
It's it's normal.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
It's not normal, but there you're going to see it,
and you're gonna ask yourself, why on earth is he watching?

Speaker 7 (42:48):
This?

Speaker 4 (42:48):
Is my kid a psycho?

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Blah blah blah, And I'm like, every kid's seen this,
every guy has seen this, Like like we all know
what Hintie is, we all know what.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
It reminds me of the clinicle the parents like for
our generation, the parents that like I specifically remember one
of my friends when his parents found rotten dot com
in the search history.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
Dude, it was as if he had committed.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
It was as if he had It was like he
was dealing Clee Bold and it was call him buying,
and it like he had just done the unthinkable.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
And it was well, I had to deal with a wife,
pale face walking into the room acting like she just
saw death herself and she saw YouTube of some tentacle
Japanese cartoon porn, you know, and that's all I have
to say there.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
And she's looking at me. It's it's yeah, it's I'm
like I don't get it, you know, but like not
to have we all, yeah, have we all watched it
like we were gonna watch a car.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
Crash, you know.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
But then when she saw that, I was like, it's
all right.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
Calm down, blah blah. That freaked out even more.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yeah, because then all of a sudden, well in the
first as a whole subject where he must be really
into this, this must be what he loves. And now
like now I'm living with the psycho.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
I was like, all kids go through an anime phase.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
You know.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
It's real popular with the kids now and this is
part of the phase, you know. And like I've had
to tell some of my friends that are like single mothers,
I'm like, your boys will go through this.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Face just don't make them feel ashamed, Like, don't shame them, like,
don't make them don't be like it's okay to watch
but like, yeah, there's a there's a line, there's a balance.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
Yeah, don't send them off to military school.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Literally, So my buddy that when his parents found rotten
dot Com, they absolutely threatened to send him to like
a boarding school, a military school, because they were worried
he was he's gonna see more of it. They were
worried he was being corrupted by all of us.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
You know, all right, moving on from topics, Yeah, the.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Something behind the scenes that has been taking place over
these first couple months of doing the show again is
you have quite a bit of ideas for show segment.
Oh yeah, they just run through my mind. And I
love a good ideas guy. But I also I don't

(45:21):
mind being the guy that says absolutely not to a
lot of them. But well, the only way you can
say no is if you present them the only reason
we can. But you mentioned one recently. I think it
was either it was earlier this week, actually, the great
Keith Hernandez on the Zone. Yeah, on the.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
That's why you want to do a Keith Hernandez segment. No,
I just know when you said the name, because I
didn't know who the announcer was, and then you said
that's Keith Hernandez, and I'm like, why does that name
sound familiar? Keith nan Oh, he whipped it out, that's right.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
He's also you know, he was a baseball baseball player,
had almost identical career to Will Clark numbers.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
I watched Seinfeld religiously for the past twenty years.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
This trust me. Yeah, the Keith Hernandez one. I didn't
think about the Seinfeld connection, but as soon as you
said it, there was a clip that was floating around
this past weekend.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
LG.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
You got this and as soon as you mentioned Keith Hernandez,
there are enough clips that go. Like earlier this year,
there was him on the hot mic saying, what do
you say? That's piss poor hitting as they were coming
back from break he didn't realize as Mike was hot.
And this one from this past weekend is Keith Hernandez.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
Might become I really didn't know who it was.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
He might become our muse, like we might have a
regular occurrences where we bring some Keith r. Nande as
audio to the show. Because this is what they pulled
off this past weekend by Blue.

Speaker 6 (47:05):
Shoe Chew It and Do It and by your local
pri State area audi dealers.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
What did you mean by that? I just read the
copy here.

Speaker 7 (47:19):
I try to give it a good read, try and
give the advertiser everything that they paid for Keith, and
then it's somebody else's problem. Spickymoniac is over too, and
he grounds one weekly on the right side for Acuna
and he makes the play one way.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
I mean, I didn't read it, well, did you always?

Speaker 4 (47:37):
You're you're a chapel god, you're prom good.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
At that happy by blue shoe LG give us the
give us the top there, give us the first part of.

Speaker 6 (47:47):
That happy by a blue shoe chew it and do it?
And by your local pri state area Audi dealers.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
This pause where he's decided that a ready and the
hot dog, well, I like a good hot dog.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah, she looks like she's really enjoy it looks like
blah blah blah. I wasn't talking about the hot dog.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
It was just like that is Keith Hernandez every single
Mets game. Like, first of all, how does blue che
get that those copy points approved to begin with chew
it and do it like that? That doesn't feel like
age again, lack of public shame.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
It doesn't feel girls are in our life and staying
there forever.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
It doesn't feel like that is something that MLB really
thought through or crossed their desk of vetting. Uh. But
Keith Hernandez that pause as he's determining what he's going
to respond with and then putting it back on the
playback play of what did you mean by that?

Speaker 2 (49:00):
I can see Keith and probably sitting here fiddling around,
and all of a sudden just.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Heay, here's it, and just slowly turns and looks at
him what do you mean by that?

Speaker 4 (49:08):
My second favorite part of.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
That clip and one of the things that always cracks
me up when one of these announcing moments goes viral. Well, hell,
it's the it's the Castiano's a deep fly, deep drive
to right field that will be a home run. It's
always when the announcers go from the giggles and laughing
and Mickeymoniac up to the plate now and he immediately

(49:33):
goes right back into like, oh, yeah, we were having
fun laughing about boners.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
Now we're back to baseball again.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Who said the racist or homophobic thing? And then he's
sitting there trying to be like I said something that
shouldn't have been on air, and blah blah blah. As
I just said, and that's a hard hit first the
first base and I am not a big it will
be a home run.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
There, it is there, it is.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Yeah. I always love it when the announcer guy remembers
he actually has a job to do, and it goes
back to doing it. But it's just such a such
a drastic transition from the boner jokes to the first
pitch of the of the top of the inning. So,
Keith R.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
Nandez Paul O'Neil's got some good ones.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
I think I think we need to bring more because again,
we're about to be in the summer of only Baseball,
so we're gonna have some more baseball commentary clips.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Keith is gonna be he's he's our golden boy. You
know that's golden boy, right, the pretty tough.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
But we're gonna have to bring in some fresh talent,
some fresh arms. And yeah, so well you be on
the lookout. That's gonna be hard googling for.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
If you hear.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
And do it, and do it.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
If you hear any good baseball commentary, send it our way.
But so that that show idea, I think I'm fully
yeah in support of never knew that was Nandez dude, Like,
until you said it, I was like, oh.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
Yeah, Keith.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Some of the other ones though, are a bit yeah,
oh yeah. We're kind of on the on the cutting
room floor for now.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Oh man, those are those are my Like, you know,
I'm relaxing at home in a subtle state of a
serenity and unconsciousness, and I'm like.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
This is gold, Jerry, this is gold. Are there any
if you told you to get that drop? What would
be the what would be the one that you are
would push the hardest for? Right now?

Speaker 4 (51:46):
Right man?

Speaker 1 (51:46):
You put me on the spot. I forget because we
talked about this before the show and our production.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
We were just going to doze.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Dude, I'll tell you the tender one.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Yeah, the tender tales, the tales from the from the
bar to the streets. The girls that we used to be,
the bartenders that get up and get drunk and just
shake their booties, and now I have to see them
be nurses and like real estate agents.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
That's a good at a meetings And like I was like, Oh,
your kid goes to Johnson too.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Johnson, We're gonna have a Johnson fun fact in the
lightning right. That one I could see like having like
a serialized or like a chronicle, you know, chronicles of
tender tales having recurrent We got we got kind of
on the that one. I kind of kind of still like.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Tender tales, is like, the bartenders tell me the best stories,
either about me or something that happened to them. I
had one of them tell me and I was like, so,
what is your craziest story. She's like, well, I got
pistol whipped, and I was like yeah. I was like quickly,
I was like, that would make a tendertail.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
First of all, the idea of some of getting pistol
whipped like one that means I'm already in a situation
where someone has a gun pulled on me, Like I'm like.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
I looked at her, I was like, why are you running? Well,
my boyfriend was in a fight, and I'm like, you're
an eighty Yeah, I just let it. Let it go.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
First of all, like I guess at the end of
the night, I'd rather get pistol whipped than shot pistol popped. Yeah.
Uh So, keep the ideas coming, and I think we'll
have I think we'll have some fun with some audio
grab bags with some baseball announcers as we get into
the summer. We let's see, how about we do a

(53:37):
little main segment here because obviously with the NBA Finals
kicking off tomorrow night, We've talked a lot over the
last couple of weeks throughout the playoffs, and one of
the trends, or one of the kind of national talking
points that has been held up the most is this

(53:59):
whole face of the league debate and and the you know,
obviously we've talked a lot about the transition the league
is going through right now, where the the most well
known stars in the league are in their late mid
to late thirties and aging out. Uh, and now everyone
is rushing to crown someone different each week as the

(54:21):
new face of the league. So I just don't know,
why don't let it happen organically? That's a thousand, that's
as it. I think it was Chuck. I think it
was Barkley that said it. The you know, uspn quit
trying to quit trying to crown whoever the face of
the league. You know, it's it's Joe, it's Joker. Who
you say it's Joker, It's Giannis and it's Sga, And

(54:44):
it has to happen organically. Spot on there, sir. Just
like it started, it started hot and then faded a
little bit. So I thought in our main segment one
we would talk a little bit about the uh, some
of the trade rumors and NBA news, like we have
the Knicks firing TIBs, which pretty shocking. I can't believe that. Yeah,

(55:08):
and then at the back end here, uh, we're gonna
look at the NBA players thirty years and under and
try to put who we think are the top fifteen
to twenty in some sort of tier list, because I
think specifically the thirty and under crowd is the crowd.

(55:31):
Because if you're gonna be the quote unquote face of
the league, you got to be the face for a while.
You've got to be the face for a while. Exactly,
You've got to still have a runway ahead of you
that is still your your prime. So, uh, before we
get to that mention the trade rumors, h do you
want to start with U Katie to Spurs that's heating up?

(55:52):
Or do you want to talk about the Knicks and TIBs.
I mean, who's who's heating it up? Who's like like Spur,
like San Antonio beat writer, no national guys. I mean
we're getting we're getting like Shams is saying he expects
KD to be gone within the next two or three weeks,
which is you know, before the draft. Trade is heating up.
But to the Spurs, I don't see like, I just

(56:14):
don't see it.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
No, outside, there's not besides it being Wimby's favorite player.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Right well, and again the reporting from the trade deadline
this year from Shams and others that are respected reporting,
there was absolutely mutual interest at the trade deadline. So
the Spurs were talking to the Suns about a KD
trade at the deadline, and if you believe the reporting,

(56:39):
it was a mutual content There were.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Because I think because Chris Paul was already there and
like they already had chemistry, they could always already have
the pick and roll.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Again, you mentioned the Wimby KD and apparently Katie is
somewhat interested in San Antonio. So we've talked about it
a lot, the Spurs of what they're looking at trade
wise and the idea of KD. You know, thirty seven
going on thirty eight would need a contract extension, only

(57:10):
has one more year on the deal, so you're extending
him two or three years.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
How much do you think even once.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Well, the money the money is years. Yeah, I mean,
I wouldn't even I don't think he's taken much of
a pay cut honestly, but I don't think he's looking
for you know, three year max level extension. But if
the money is comfortable for the Spurs, the question becomes,

(57:36):
do you use any future assets to speed up the
current timeline because we've talked a lot about timelines, especially
when you know, the Yannis rumors started heating up, and
then the Spurs get the number two pick. Well, then
we hear they're keeping the number two pick, but they
still have this fourteenth overall pick.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
I also heard that dearon Fox, they're looking at like
a four year two hundred and twenty nine million.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
Yeah, he's gonna get extended.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
He's locking in, so any of us five years with them, right,
And that's that's the question now of you have you know,
you have Fox and you're about to lock him in
on an extension. Obviously Wemby Castle, now Harper, who you're
gonna draft second overall.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
And that's all like three year at rookie deal.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Yeah, they're all on rookie deals except for Fox. But
then outside of that, you're still looking at a path
of development with the rest of the roster. You know
that would be uh, you know, still Keldon and Devin
and uh filling out the bench or some role you

(58:40):
know so hand. But the question of timelines of are
you willing to give up the fourteenth pick in a
KD trade or are you even if that's too rich
for you, are you interested in giving up a future
first round pick that's highly protected did or you know

(59:01):
not probably going to be if you're trading your twenty
twenty nine first round pick, like you said, in four years,
you're expecting to be towards the top part of the league,
so your pick's not going to be as good as
it will be.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Just the KD trade just seems like a win now,
like like this is the final piece we need to
get a championship. And the fact that like, I don't
think we're in that mentality. No, That's why I'm like,
I don't understand why the Spurs are being talked to
in that.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Let me counter, as you have suggested, within two years
you think they're going to be a top of the
West team. Yeah, so you would have KD for those
two years and then thirty nine, he'd be thirty nine,
it'd still be KD. He's his game is one that

(59:53):
ages well because it's all shooting in finesse. He's tall
enough to still get a shot off. You're not worried
about him losing quickness. I'm thinking, I'm thinking, see this
is where because I'm at first, but he just.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
Doesn't fit the Spurs way. I hate seeing the Spurs
way and all that stuff. He doesn't like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
He would just draw. They would.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
How much would the Spurs be talked about every day
if KD came over?

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Oh? I think it would. I don't. I don't think
it would be the impact you're you don't think so now,
I don't. ESPN wouldn't be leading with it or anything.
They would still talk more Lebron, Luca in La or
the Nicks dumpster fire that it's about to become, and
they would still. I think it's an interesting one because
I think there are good arguments to be made on

(01:00:39):
both sides of it, because the other pund try to
let you talk me into it, right because right now?
So like no, specifically, if you're keeping the fourteenth pick,
this is a good year, This is a good draft
to have a second lottery pick. We've been talking about
how great and deep this draft is. So if you're

(01:01:00):
keeping fourteen or even using some of those future first
round picks to move up into the back end of
the top ten or somewhere. You know, there's an argument
to be made that outside of your core guys, you
need someone else to fill out that bench. So having
another developmental lottery pick in this really good draft.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
But it puts Wimby at the five, like, it's doesn't
fix to me. It doesn't fix the five hole.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
No, and it it wouldn't be like you said, it
wouldn't be the final trade to put them over the
top or anything like like that. It would still there's
still plenty of holes in the roster to fill, but
it does make you better instantly. And the proposed trade,
just numbers wise, would be something like Devin Bissell, Harrison

(01:01:51):
Barnes and some kind of picks, whether it's the fourteenth
pick this year or a future first.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
The main core right, which that's where you can you
can talk me into a little bit like that. But like,
he definitely can't play. He can't play the five. He's
got to play he's got to play there, He's got
to play damn near the three.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Sure you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Weinby the four?

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Is there a five out there that we could actually
spend money on, you know, with the three four year
deal that's worth the damn.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Nas Reed is the name that always pops up with, uh.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
Is he like which one order or portois U triple
j Uh? It might have been I don't know. I
think Milwaukee Bobby Portis.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
I mean, he's a serviceable one, but that's still no
one that you're uh elite, No, and you're not holding
on to him for the next five years to build
around the young.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
Group if you're embiid like put embid them.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Look now, that would that would be interesting, that would
be insane. But he also would never stay on the
court because it's never healthy. I think I've seen a
lot of them, Lord, just like we do the tim
drunk Duncan treatment on them. Well, he's still got to
be out there to win when it actually does matter.
It's still he's not even out there for that for Philly.

(01:03:14):
But I've seen really good arguments on both sides of
this discussion of no, keep all of your assets, Katie
is not the move now. Even if you're giving up
a future first round pick, that's a pick that you
can use in two years to make a big swing.
Once you have some of these other kind of issue

(01:03:34):
like big Man still missing a bit, you know, all
these other holes. But it's it's interesting to hear the
mutual interest between the two because Katie's leaving Phoenix, so
one way or another, I wrote the other teams I had,
you know, Rockets, I think absolutely would be a team
that would jump at the chance because they are more

(01:03:57):
looking to win. Now he's that seems like a better
fit kind of does. Yeah, the Knicks, who knows what
they're about to do. I mean they who knows We've
got They fired TIBs after reaching the conference finals for
the first time in twenty five years. They've got Bridges
who needs a contract extension after next season, so they've

(01:04:22):
either got to commit to him or trade him. Now
kat doesn't look like a long term fit with the
rest of that group and Bridges. Also, it seems like
some behind the scenes he was complaining about how much
TIBs was playing him. So if Bridges was maybe not
the final the absolute reason you fired TIBs, but was

(01:04:43):
part of the reason. That tells me you're probably sticking
with him and trying to work out some kind of extension.

Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
It's like you pick. You picked the player of the coach,
So who would who would say no?

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Right now? Kat for KDE? Like would the Knicks say
no to that?

Speaker 4 (01:04:59):
I mean Cat ricaid, they wouldn't say no.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
They take KD. I think they would too, and the
Phoenix would say absolutely, Now we have Kat to pair
with Devin Booker.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Yeah, it's a much better situation for now.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
And like, maybe me get Kat in a three way
deal and get a bunch of picks from us. I
would take Kat as a five.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
Now that would be interesting, you tell me, Like I've
seen if.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Kat came with US as a five, and just the
way he rebounded, the way he hustled for the Knicks,
and now you got you're literally not having to be
the second option, you know, Yeah, that would be.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
The Cat one. I didn't think had any legs to
stand on of him being available, But the way they're
handling business now, it just feels like anything the Knicks
do next wouldn't shock me.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Yeah, something something went down, like when Cat only played
twenty three minutes in game two.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
Something was up.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Yeah, and other than you saw him arguing on the
sideline some like, there's there's some internal.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Things well and there's also that whole you know, the
Villanova guys and then Cat and not. You know that
there's as much as it shouldn't matter, like there has
to be some clickish nature another I could see the
Pistons trying to swing big after moving up into the
playoffs again, looking to make looking crazy right, looking to

(01:06:25):
make some kind of move that bumps them up another level.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
I would get hype on Cat, like if they do
a three way trade and then we give up the
fourteenth pick too, Phoenix.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
You know Cat's not as young as you're thinking, though, No,
I'm how old do you think he is? I think
he's twenty nine off top of my head because I
was looking at that. Oh okay, well, then he's young
as twenty nine he turns thirty, but he turns thirty
in November.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
If we could make that happen, we could shell out
some money, because we have money to burn him for
like two to three years before we have to.

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
Pay Dylan Harper. We have to pay Stephan Castle Wimby.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
He's gonna get his super like I'm sure he's gonna
get not the super Max, but he's gonna get the Max.
And then, right, is that how it works, and then
get the super Max.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
He'll end up I mean, if he you have to
qualify for the Supermax now, so I had to be
all for all first Team NBA or when Defensive Player
of the Year, which he's going to if he stays healthy,
or when MVP and that bumps you up to super
Max eligible too. The Cat one, that's interesting. I hadn't

(01:07:32):
thought about like that matches perfectly with Darren Fox being
twenty eight twenty nine years old, same age as Kat.
So now you're you've still got a timeline and now
Cat's got playoff experience, which he had in Minnesota before,
but now it was ramped up in Yeah big time, Yeah,
big time. But he was well yeah, Cat played in

(01:07:53):
the Western Conference Finals last year, in the Eastern Conference
finals this year.

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
I just thought about that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Uh well, And the other team I had written down
was maybe Minnesota too, who's about to have They're gonna
have to do something with that roster with the nas
red pending free agency after he opts out of that
player option, like if the Spurs traded for KD. The
fourteenth pick this year is the one that I hesitate
because if they do start to get as good as

(01:08:21):
is expected over the next few years. You're not gonna
have many other opportunities where you could potentially have two
lottery picks in a in a draft. This good.

Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
No, even though I mean we do have we still
have Hot still at the.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Hawks, and Charlotte didn't convey I think it was Charlotte
kept that pick so that one's still protected moves on
to another year. So there's I mean, yeah, the only
team that has more this is ridiculous. The only team
that has more future assets and draft picks Oklahoma. And
they're already so damn good. They're they're set up so

(01:08:59):
well to so.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
It's like right now, it's like they're set up.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
So that's why I'm like, we need to start giving
away some of these picks, you know, to get some talent,
you know, And I mean, I'm high man, if we
get Cat I think that could push our timeline up
a year.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Well that I mean if okay, we're extreme hypotheticals here,
If you get if that were to happen, yeah, you're
all of a sudden, the timeline is now like it's
not not to be expected to be a champion, but
like then all we're going, right, well, and even even
if they were to trade for KD, I think that

(01:09:39):
gets you another deep run like we're not not deep runt,
but playoff appearance, like you're not going through You think
we'd be one and done with KD.

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
I think we'd least get to the second round.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
If I think you continue to underestimate how hard it
is to win in the playoffs, like the teams that
lost in the first round this year are still the.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
Teams miles ahead of where because their best players got hurt.
Man that wasn't all of them, that was the second
round that was.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
I think there's still just the instant assumption like KDI
doesn't move the needle that much, but I think he
absolutely does put them in a different level where they
currently are if they keep the fourteenth pick, and and
only again we're not you know who knows what what
they do in free agency too, But the next three
weeks are going to be full of daily rumors of

(01:10:33):
of where guys could end up. And it it does again,
it does seem like the Spurs are at least willing
and open second to talk now that one's locked in
and you know, we went we talked about that a
lot when the first when the Yiannis rumors popped up.
But so it they're committed to that super young timeline

(01:10:56):
with that core. But maybe adding you still like one
veteran of Kd's caliber might not mean especially if you're
not having no offense to Devin or Barnes was great
for him this year, but he's a journeyman veteran over
you know, o Pasta's prime. If you're only giving up

(01:11:16):
those two guys in a KD trade, yeah, that's not bad.
That's not bad.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
And and of course also to also takes money off
our books.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
Yeah, yeah, that's a big deal that uh you know,
that would immediately become Kd's money, but only for the
next three years. I don't know, it's exciting. This is
this is the you know, the time when hopefully in
three years, five years from now, when we're looking at
sustained success year over year. Yeah, these are this is

(01:11:47):
the summer that will be probably remembered for the next
decade and a half here in San Antonio.

Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
It feels like, and not just for San Antonio.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Because of this new collective bargaining agreement, I think we're
about to see the most summer trades we've potentially ever
seen in the NBA because after that Luca trade, everybody's like, yeah,
that shook everybody. I think everybody's like, well, we got
to make a move, we gotta do something. That's a
great lead in mentioning the Luca trade, because let's talk

(01:12:18):
a little bit of these NBA thirty and under tiers,
because there's and we mentioned the face of the league debate.
It drives me insane, But I under I do understand
why people want to rush to crown, like the Halliburton

(01:12:40):
is the most recent one. Like all of a sudden,
people Halliburton's a top ten player in the league because
of what he's doing. It's like, well, slow down, he's
doing hold or maybe he is, like they we'll figure
it out here in a second. I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
But I think he's like a Jimmy Butler turns it
on at the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Well, and if you actually look at the numbers, the
Jimmy playoff Jimmy actually.

Speaker 4 (01:13:02):
Is a huge myth.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
He he doesn't have no no, it's just it's really
good branding. In PR he has more games under twenty
points than over in his playoff career. It was just
the fact they went to the finals. It was carried
off of a couple of deep runs. So when you
think about the face of the league mentioned we're going

(01:13:25):
thirty in under because we want guys that are going
to be the face here for the next half decade.
So the obvious one. You know, I've got the list
ahead of me or in front of me. Joker turned
thirty in February, so he's still thirty.

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
His body's not gonna last best thirty five, What are
you talking. His body is made to last till he's fifty.
He's just a.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Slow prodding, no muscle like, he doesn't have to. He
never gets hurt. No one can affect him physically. I
think I think Joker could play the exact style he
plays now well into his thirties, well into his mid thirties.

Speaker 4 (01:14:05):
Well, when this is on five years from now, will
be like a ha ha, Joker, how to retire for injury.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
I'm gonna bring it up. I think there are other
players on this list that are way more likely to
have retired because of injury, yeah in five years than Joker.
I think Joker is clearly to me the top of
this list.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
He's crafty, yeah, because he doesn't really bang too much,
but like that, but you saw what they did to
him and how they're ullifying in the past two years.
They're throwing young people at him and frustrating him and
getting them all.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
Like, Yeah, the you know, the smaller defender has I
don't think I don't think Caruso has cracked the code
on Joker, but it's absolutely has been the best anyone's
been against him in the playoffs. Yeah, but he's also
still multiple time MVP, and statistically I stand by it
should have won it this year, but because SGA's team

(01:15:01):
had sixty eight wins, it's hard to argue against that.
The Joker to me is clearly the number one player, right,
and that's always the argument, and you know mentioned Barkley
talking about it earlier. I think the rush to put
SGA in the same tier as Joker is a bit

(01:15:21):
crazy to me too, Yeah, because he still hasn't won
anything on as the team. They're in the NBA Finals
now and they're heavy, heavy, heavy favorites to win it
this year? Are we going like one to ten? So
I was thinking we'd take like the first fifteen and
then do uh, let's go throw out five. Yeah, because

(01:15:44):
it's gonna be We're gonna burn through these once we.

Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
So SGA, I would put SGA at the fifth spot.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Well no, no, no, okay, hold on, yeah, I'm doing
a poor job of explaining it the doing it by tier.
I think the only guy that's in Jokers level tier
isn't SGA. I think it's just a y honis. I
don't think SGA is above what Jannie is or has
achieved yet. Giannis has been top three in MVP voting

(01:16:12):
for the last half decade. SGA hasn't done that. Jannis
has a championship, SDA hasn't done that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
You wouldn't put Tatum in that tier?

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
No, no, no, no, no no, But I think Tatum's
not far behind the Tatum one though.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
It really makes me Andrew was doing until he got injured,
he was that top tier.

Speaker 4 (01:16:32):
He wasn't he he was he was taking over games
with forty points, but.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
He wasn't a Yannis level at all. I mean it
was still they won the championship, so he has the
ring to match th guy.

Speaker 4 (01:16:45):
But the individual performance I'm talking about this year, Tatum
like he was becoming the Joker where he was getting
forty points into like fifteen rebounds on the rag.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
He still didn't even finish top three in MVP.

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
The top three was still still Joker.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
I'm still we're overall overall success. So I I stand
by the top tier to me is still just Joker
and Joannis and then the obvious one starting Tier two
is s G A.

Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
SJ put Lebron on there.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
Okay, but this is where you have mentioned multiple names.
I think this is where you're Tatum Tatum and you're Luca,
and we're gonna put Luca in the top tier.

Speaker 4 (01:17:36):
We're in second, we're in tier two now, I know,
But like I'm thinking right now, I think Luca needs
to be up in that tier one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
No one has more.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
Oh you think with Joker and Giannis, I.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
Think Luca deserves. The only reason is defense exactly. The
lack of an MVP, the lack of a championship, and
the purely one dimension, one sided ny of his game.
I think like tier one and a half, and I
think that's where s G A is. I think if
if we do this like s g A win the

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Thunder win the finals.

Speaker 4 (01:18:09):
So tier two is going to be very difficult to
get into.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Exactly as they should be. And I think it's s
g A, it's Luca, and I think those are your
top two. And then this is where it gets really
interesting to me because there's that's the name. I was
about to say, there are a lot of people that
want to put Anthony Edwards in this tier.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
I love him to death.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
I love the game, I love watching it. He doesn't
have the accomplishments yet of s G. A. Is not
a lockdownder, No, and he's he should progress. See.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
I wouldn't even put Tatum in the tier two now
really yeah, because Jayleen Brown.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
But at times Jalen Brown can't dribble. I mean the
you know, there there are holes in his game. I
think the Tatum one gets confusing to me because what's
he gonna look like if we're talking about the next
five years, Well, the next year he's not playing basketball,
recovering from the injury, and then when he comes back,
that's an injury where we've seen guys come back and

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not look the same. Granted it was later in their careers,
he's still in his prime. Yeah, I'm if we base
it off of what we've seen Tatum do so far,
I think he's tier two if we project what he's
going to be after the injury.

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
Okay, I think it gets a little. I think we
I think we we don't.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
We don't discredit his accomplishments because of the injury and
hope for the best Tier two. And then so there's
a name we haven't mentioned yet that's very obvious. It's
like it's Wimby where because he racks up the stats.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
He racks up the stats, you know, like he's got blocks, steals, points, rebounds, threes, everything.
So do I want to put him in tier two
right now? No, because he couldn't take us to where
we needed to go, like a you know, I think

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a Tatum can will someone will us to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
You know what I'm saying, Absolutely, I think until you
see I think, until you see the postseason success and yeah,
the you gotta stay healthy, you gotta play. Wemby's top
tier three, I think, I think. And here's some of
the other potential names. So if we're if we're saying
Weimby is top of tier three, some of the other
names that are in this consideration between two and three. Uh,

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you know, Donovan Mitchell just had a great season with
the He's done a lot of good seasons with the
Jazz before, but about a four. Uh, he's still young.
He's twenty nine. He's the same age as cat Oh wow, yeah,
because he played for Yeah, he's actually he's exactly, but
he was young coming out of Louisville. He doesn't turn

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twenty nine until September. So we mentioned and Wimby, Donovan, Mitchell,
Jalen Bronson, who we're seeing now become the King of
New York.

Speaker 4 (01:21:06):
I think those are the four names that's somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
Because we got to start getting little little men in there,
you know, like little so tier three. I would put
Ant in there. Ant's good enough to be tier three.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
I think in no particular order. I think it's Aunt Wimby.
I think it's Aunt Wimby, Donovan, Mitchell, and Jalen. I
think they are all that tier together. I take that,
and that puts us at nine so far, and I
feel like there's not much controversy in, you know, in

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the way we've lined them up so far, and again
we still haven't even mentioned Halliburton. Yeah, but I don't
think he's not crossing any of these names that we've.

Speaker 4 (01:21:54):
He's tier four. We're seeing what he can do.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
Now he hasn't done this, you know, he did good
last year, but that gets you into tier you know,
that gets you into tier four. You know. And now
if we if we're excluding the.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
Playoffs, you know, we're just doing like regular season and whatnot, Well,
it's it's still counting the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:22:19):
But you know you gotta well, then where did you
put k Cunningham.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
Well, I mean he's only been in the playoffs one
time and he's only he's.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
Just he willed the Detroit pistons'll almost take out the Knicks.

Speaker 4 (01:22:32):
Sure, but a short a non foul call.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Sure, but a small sample size like that, and it's
still you still lost the series. It didn't come down
to one call. That was one game and that could
have brought it to let's say a game seven. But
you could have played better in the first half and
then it wouldn't have been a one shot game at
the end.

Speaker 4 (01:22:57):
Yeah, but you know how the revs can work it. Sure,
of course it's the NBA.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
You don't think they don't want the New York Knicks
over Detroit. They're like, that would be horrible for their ratings.
I do I do think you're absolutely. I think Cad
is possibly the top of this tier four. I think Caid,
if we're going so right now, because he's thirty and under,
he's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:23:22):
He's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
Joker Giannis Tier one by themselves, Sga Luca Tatum, there's
your top five, and SJA Louca Tatum Tier two, Tier three,
Wimby and Donovan Mitchell, Jylen Brunson, there's your top nine.
So now this next name is the top of tier four,
but it's also the tenth. It's the last of the

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top ten. Okay, so a couple I'll throw some names
out there, all right, Carl kat Karl, Anthony Towns, Evan
Mobley just one defensive player of the year, great for
defensive anchor for Cleveland, Caid, Jaw.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
Talent wise, Josh so good Man talent wise, he is
just that that six inches between your years man.

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
Like the kid's not that smart. Man, Like you're doing
all the gun stuff on there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
You beat up a kid and whatnot. No, I think
I think Jaw is still as much as the still
killer dude, I as much as the off court issues
or what everyone wants to talk about. I also think
would kind of inflate the on court performance. I think
it's really flashy. It makes great highlights, but he reminds

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me a lot of Steve Francis, where it's like you're
gonna watch him play and you're gonna walk away thinking
I've never seen somebody at his size do what he did,
and and your your team is gonna be a five seed.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
Now, who is who's the top person on Houston? Because
I'm thinking of I'm trying to think of like great.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
I mean, yeah, I guess you would probably say Shingoon.
And how old is he?

Speaker 4 (01:25:06):
He's twenty two? Yeah, so we gotta throw him up there.
And then also, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
Think he's ahead of any of these guys. No, I
don't think so either. Yeah, I mean I would I
think that that list is the guys like.

Speaker 4 (01:25:19):
About Jalen Brown out of even though he can't dribble.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
No, I think I think he's absolutely in this conversation,
I think that's your I think it's tier five. Yeah, Well,
who are we locking in at the top of Tier four? Here?
Out of the names kat Evan Mobley, Kate Cunningham, Jaw
Jayleen Brown, who goes in?

Speaker 4 (01:25:38):
Who goes in?

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
Tier four?

Speaker 4 (01:25:39):
Here or maybe even Trey Young. Trey Young's one dimensional.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
I would go Jayleen Brown, Jalen at the top, Jalen
at the time, has the championship, can play, is probably
the best defender. Yeah, outside of first team in all NBA.

Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
Yeah, I don't disagree with that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
And then from there, I think it's I think it
pretty much goes in the rest of that order that
we just laid out. I think this is a Cat Mobiley, Cad,
Jalen Brown, and Jaw is the one.

Speaker 4 (01:26:19):
Oh what was that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
Disregard someone's someone's hot uh. I think it's Jalen Cad
uh Mobiley.

Speaker 4 (01:26:33):
And then yeah, I think you would.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
I think I still put Cat above because again, like
we said, was the best player on a Western Conference
finals team last year? Well, I guess maybe Aunt was,
but he was second best player on a two conference
finals teams behind with many in New York. I think
Kat slots in with this list, and I think Jaw.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
You're gonna put in tier five if he's not. Now
we're talking one dimensional case.

Speaker 1 (01:27:06):
I mean, okay, put it this, We'll put it this way.
Would you rather have Jalen Brown or Jaw on your team?
If you were the Spurs. Would you rather have Jaylen
Brown Raw? Would you rather have Kate Cunningham or Jaw?
Would you rather have Evan Mobley or Jaw? You're right?

Speaker 4 (01:27:20):
Would you rather have Kat or Jaw?

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
Yeah? Tay, Yeah, I think Jaw is the top of
that tier five.

Speaker 4 (01:27:26):
Yeah, Okay, I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
So that gets us down. We are now what's at one, two, three, four, five,
nine thirteen? So Jaw was fourteenth.

Speaker 4 (01:27:35):
Then we got Bronnie and he kiss Brownnie.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
And uh Carmelo's son who's going to be playing at
Syracuse next year. This is where I think we start
to really get into the the honorable mentions because at
this point, trying to separate Trey Young Halliburton. Yeah, you know,
I might even put Halliburton Overjaw.

Speaker 4 (01:27:57):
I think, yeah, I think I think I kind of
like Halliburton over Jaw. And again, he's got the playoff
experience if we're talking about, because he's been in it
two years in a row.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
Now, what if you were Memphis or if you were Atlanta,
who would say no to a Trey Young for Jaw trade?

Speaker 4 (01:28:16):
Would Memphis say no?

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:28:18):
Memphis would say though, they would keep Jaw, they would
keep joh purely. He's like if Memphis for that town,
jaws like a Luca for them right now?

Speaker 4 (01:28:29):
Yeah, well he's you're saying, how that can he's a
fan favorite. Man, We've seeing how that can go.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
I like I've been I've lived in Memphis a little while,
and I like they definitely would like they love them
some job right now.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
Yeah, I think that's kind of you know, again, as
we're thinking about it in terms of uh, you know
this face of the League debate.

Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
Think about all these teams you got, you got?

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
No one under thirty made the list for or Warriors,
No one knows Sacramento, Nope, Lake, Oh well Luca.

Speaker 4 (01:29:05):
The only person how old is Anthony Davis?

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
Oh he's still young young? Uh what twenty three? Yeah,
he's not even twenty four till August. Oh I thought
you said nouthy, he's thirty two. He's thirty two, alright.
So no one from Dallas, not not yet until they
until until the thirty flag comes in there. But I
would technicitely know one from Houston, so I don't get

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accused of being a Cooper flag would not be anywhere
on this list. He's got to show us. He's got
to do something. Yeah, what about Booker? How old is Booker?
So Booker is still under thirty and still under thirty, Yeah,
he's twenty eight. But again again, and that's where I
think at this point.

Speaker 4 (01:29:48):
He's got the playoff experience.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
He's just digressed a little bit, and I think that's
just team chemistry. If he goes somewhere else, he could
like revamp his game.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
And this is where like arguing the merits, because I
think Tier five is basically it's it's gonna be all
these guys. It's it's you know, we got Jaw at
the top, but outside of that, it's your your Trey Young's,
your Devin Bookers. You're the guys that you know, we've
seen be in the league for a few years now.

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But there it's no one.

Speaker 4 (01:30:22):
What about Orlando? Which one?

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
Yeah? I think Paulo is probably the Tier six Yeah,
I see again, I think I would still.

Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
Yeah, I think I think I would.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
I would, I would personally, I would value I would
value Paulo over Devin Booker. Yeah, I would if I
was thinking about right now.

Speaker 4 (01:30:47):
Yes, right now now.

Speaker 1 (01:30:49):
But Devin Booker two three years accomplishments, right, you know,
I'd take that Devin Booker, Yeah, the Devin Booker that
led a Son's team to have the best record in
the West at one at one point early in his career. Yeah,
I think we're you're splitting hairs at this point. But
between these first you know, four tiers, the Joker Yannis

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are both Tier one, but both on the line of
thirty you know, Yokicha's thirty to who can be the face? Right,
So both of them, you're current two most consistent MVP finalists.
Both of those guys are going to be thirty five

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in five years, so they're kind of already on that.
Like if we were to do this list of twenty
nine and under and just remove them, yeah, then all
of a sudden, you're debating SGA Luca Tatum, yeah, in
Tier one, and that second one is Wemby and Donovan Mitchell,
Jylen Bronson exactly. So I think they're just they're accomplished,

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they got rings, and they got MVPs. I think that's
where someone between this Tier two and Tier three group
is when we think about these arguments we had in
ten years, it's gonna be someone on this lit obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
I think after next year Wimby's gonna be the Tier
two He's gonna move up because he's gonna have a
full season, and then we're actually gonna see what a
Wimby with two and a half years in the league.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
Well, and you can also chalk up a defensive Player
of the Year if he stays healthy the whole season,
which would put him ahead of anyone in this tier
three group in terms of individual accomplishment.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
And he's like, I mean, he's just crushing stats. So
he's gonna be top of Tier two and he could
be arguably, you know, depending on how it'll.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
Be top of tier two until I mean, SGAs just
won an MVP and is about to win an NBA
Finals in five games.

Speaker 4 (01:32:53):
But that's what I'm saying. This is under thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:32:57):
One.

Speaker 4 (01:32:57):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. Absolutely everybody would
like shift up one.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
And this is you know, all of the talk about
the league not having, you know, being in trouble. Now
that Kadie and Steph and Lebron and that whole era
are finally getting close to retirement. I think if you
tell the average fan, like the average this is what

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I always call it, the mom metric, does your mom
know who this player is?

Speaker 4 (01:33:28):
Do they know who Luca? Does my mom know who
Luka Doncic is? Would you say about my mom?

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
She does obviously because of the Dallas connection, but she
wouldn't she know? She would know Luca. Does my mom
know who Sga is? Probably not, that's pretty questionable. A
small market exactly, and he's Canadian, there's.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
No Now if we're going back to the face of
the league, now we're going to the whole like a
I think it's got to be someone from a big,
big market, one of the big cities.

Speaker 4 (01:33:59):
And then also he's got to be American.

Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
Why I hear that, But well, that would exclude wenby
a small market non American. But I don't think that.
I think he absolutely has.

Speaker 4 (01:34:14):
You're going to see a big push for Cooper flag
of course, Oh for sure. That's gonna be a.

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
On us. Yeah, because he's American born and raised. But
he's in a small market, so by that metric, he
could never be facing.

Speaker 2 (01:34:28):
I don't think he's gonna last there too long. I
see an in Miami in two years, if not next year.

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
Yeah. I thinking about the health of the league going forward.
Like lucas well known s g A, you're reigning MVP
on that line. Tatum in a massive basketball market, playing
for a heritage team like the Celtics. I still think

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Tatum is pretty under recognized on a national level just
because he's not He's not a guy like Aunt is
all personality. Tatum's a boring Midwest kid from Saint Louis.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
Yeah, he's like he's got the Tim Duncan effect where
he's just like, you know, like we came here to
do our job. He's not sitting there, you know, doing
three pointers and shucking him down and like going like this,
Like and I think you need that to be the
face of the league. Yeah, you've got to have that personality,
got to have the King James something, you know, something

(01:35:30):
like that, like who's gonna who's willing to go take
on that all that crap, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:35:35):
So the name like obviously Wimby. Wimby probably has the
highest Q rating of anybody in this group. Uh, you know,
most recognizable. The ant one we've talked about. Donovan Mitchell
is an as He's gonna be. No one knows who
Donovan Mitchell is. He's gotta get out of Cleveland. Well,

(01:35:55):
I mean it's no one knew who he was in Utah.
No one's gonna know who he isn't talking on a
like national average scale. Brunson with the power of the
garden in New York City, uh, and a little bit
of his dad being a player. So the Brunson name
at least, yeah, exactly, it's been around for thirty years,

(01:36:16):
so there's some more familiarity with see a big marketing
push for Brunson. Oh, big time, yeah, big time, yeah,
I think and even Jalen extremely soft spoken dude, like
not a real like on the court. He's a killer,
but he's not a real big like media like, you're
not getting a lot of viral clips from Jalen Brunton

(01:36:37):
press conferences, And.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
I think that's kind of like the Boston they're trying
to like because they had they had two of the
biggest you know, trash talkers and Kevin Garnett and Paul
Pierce on there when they won their last championship. And
now they have soft spoken guys, and I think that's
more what they're kind of leaning for, like just get
the job done. Yeah, very situ, blue collar type, you know, Boston.

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You know, we just came here to win type thing.
Spurs ish you know.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
You know the other thing looking at these lists all
of this, you you mentioned it specifically, the you gotta
be American rule. Right now our two guys and tier
one we've got a Serb and Greek. It's only two
and then tier two and we we just said, you know,

(01:37:26):
Luca and Wimby have better chances of being the face
of the league than SGA. And even though SGA Canadian,
that's not as I think they're.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
Doing a lot of good things with Wimby, showing them
playing chess out in there in the market, like I
think if there's anything, ant was right, whereas like Wemby's
gonna be the guy that's gonna be the face of
the league, you know, just because a they can market
it overseas and be he is a good kid. He's
not sitting there doing gun like pulling out guns.

Speaker 4 (01:37:59):
Yeah, and it's stud but as it is, that does
matter to the sponsors.

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
It's all like what adds what sponsors can I get
to sell my product and how can I attach this guy?

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
Is this guy going to ruin my brand? And you
know the one the one thing now that Luca is
in La. You know, when the Spurs get good, it
will be you know, Spurs Lakers again. And that's something
that the national like. They won't be selling necessarily Wimby
and the Spurs, but they'll be selling the Lakers Spurs

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rivalry and and right exactly all of the reliving the
glory days. And now it's Luca and Wimby instead of
Timmy and Shak or Timmy and Kobe. You know, I
think that is very likely.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
That's only they can put the right pieces around Luca
because Broni's Brons out of there in two years.

Speaker 1 (01:38:55):
What do you think forty two can't play past now
he's two more, probably only next year, maybe two years.
But all that being said, Luca's offensive ability is one
of those where it can carry you to like you're
gonna be a playoff team at minimum every year, just
because he's gonna get so many easy shots for other guys. Uh,

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and then give up easy shots on defense.

Speaker 4 (01:39:20):
But in twenty three throws a game, I you keep
saying that I wish.

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
You actually had watched Luca for the first six years
of his career, because he should have shot way more
free throws than he exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:39:37):
Now and now he's gonna get his twenty. Now he
will start getting twenty free throws a game.

Speaker 1 (01:39:42):
So yeah, I think overall, the the rush to crown
anybody is just that a rush. But when you actually
write it down on paper, I think there are like
the people that are crying wolf and suggesting that the
NB is gonna have a rough patch of popularity.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
I don't know, man, that's a lot of good names
right there. It is like when you go to the
Golden Years with Jordan and stuff like that, how many
names could we name off? Like probably you know, you
get like all the dream Team that's twelve, and then
probably because Isaiah got throw out, like I got missed,
like because Jordan didn't want them, and then probably like

(01:40:25):
three or four more. So if you have a good
fifteen to twenty people, your your league is doing great.

Speaker 4 (01:40:33):
Yeah, But I guess that's my question. Do they have
that after? I think right now with the we got
fifteen right.

Speaker 1 (01:40:41):
There, But here's you know, like as much as we
love and we got.

Speaker 4 (01:40:45):
Cooper Flag coming in, and we got Dylan Harber coming in,
and we got you know, people coming up, you know
that haven't proven themselves yet.

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
I think the I think the you know, the majority
of this list here is guys that are just now
stepping into the spotlight. Yeah, like we've you know, Aunt
has been introduced to a national audience back to back
years now with deep playoff runs, obviously SGA with Oklahoma

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City's ascension, and now the MVP Trophy. He's announced he's
in the spotlight. Tatum wins it last year, beats Luca
in the finals though they're out of the top two tiers.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
Bill, everybody else is now stepping into the spotlight. The
top two tiers there, they've already had the attention on them,
and they're they're obviously older twenty nine, twenty nine for
Joker and you know Jannis.

Speaker 1 (01:41:35):
I also think there's a huge gap between Jalen Brunson
at the bottom of Tier three and Jaylen Brown.

Speaker 4 (01:41:43):
At the top of Tier four. You think that's a
huge gap.

Speaker 1 (01:41:46):
I do. I do. I think looking at the rest
of Tier four, like Jalen, K Cunningham, Mobley, and Kat,
I think those guys are quite a bit They need
down from Wimby Ant, Donovan, Mitchell and Jay more years
of proving themselves. Yeah yeah, and Mobily a little more
team success with that Cleveland group, and we still got

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some of the old heads sticking around for two or
three more years.

Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
So it's like, while they're getting there, you know, basically
cutting their teeth, you know, getting that success, getting into
the spotlight, we still got you know, Curry's still going
to be there for a little bit, James gonna be there.

Speaker 1 (01:42:21):
Ye, Curry will be here longer than then what you
wanna call Katie or Lebron. But you think Curry's breaking down, man,
I just think because he's just his shooting ability. I think, well,
like Dirk was an absolute shell of himself at the end,
but he could Just the shooting ability I think keeps

(01:42:44):
making you think, well, I can always just shoot.

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
But Curry's always like running off screens and stuff like that.
Can he run off his screen?

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
It's a good that's a you know, it doesn't age well, it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
Doesn't age well. Spot up shooter. Can he transition just
to a spot up shoot?

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
Yeah? I think simultaneously, the people that are saying the
league is in trouble have some truth to support themselves,
and the people that are saying the league is in
a great position might ought to question some things, like
there's truth, And as most things, there's a little bit
of truth on both sides of the argument. LG, why

(01:43:22):
don't we close it out with a little bit of
lightning round here? Have either of y'all seen any of
the reporting regarding the college football playoff and some of
the back and forth with the SEC and the Big
Ten versus everybody else? Yeah, so the rush like today

(01:43:42):
it was Ryan Day, the Ohio State coach, saying he
wants the Big Ten to have four guaranteed playoff spots.
Oh yeah, when they expand it, because it's going to
be expanded to sixteen that are taking a.

Speaker 4 (01:43:57):
West Coast teams and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:43:59):
Yeah, and I guess the you know, his argument was
if you don't provide the two best because he said
the SEC should get four uh guaranteed as well. So
they want to have eight of the sixteen go directly
to the Big Ten and the SEC. And then their
proposal was Big twelve would get two guaranteed, ACC would

(01:44:23):
get two guaranteed uh, and then the group of five
schools would get one, and then the rest would be
at large.

Speaker 4 (01:44:30):
Well yeah, yeah, that would three at large. That would
be your sixteen teams.

Speaker 1 (01:44:34):
I wouldn't be mad at that.

Speaker 4 (01:44:36):
The only reason I would but a sixteen team playoff that's.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
Gonna happen regardless. But when you start to guarantee spots
for the fourth best team in a conference, no matter
what conference it is, Yeah, that doesn't exactly feel to
me like we're doing things correctly. Yeah, it's not just
like what was it.

Speaker 4 (01:44:59):
It's not we were going away from a de I program.

Speaker 1 (01:45:03):
Yeah, Like this feels like it's I understand you're you're
playing in the toughest conference in America SEC. I understand
you're playing in the second toughest conference, Big Ten. But
also just the rush to assume that because of that,
you're deserved better than the other that's the thing that

(01:45:25):
kills me of the like, you're not arguing that your
best play, your best team would be people. You're arguing
that your fourth best team three years from now, if
this were to get implemented, would be deserving of a
spot over the third best team in the Big twelve
or the ACC And that is highly likely. While I agree,

(01:45:47):
it just doesn't feel like something we need to guarantee.

Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
Hit me, oh man, So we have one metal world
piece wanting to be the new head coach of the
New Nicks, and I am here for it man. That
would be now, that would be fun. That would be
malice in the malice in the palace times too.

Speaker 1 (01:46:09):
That would be brawling in the garden. Uh good, I
you know it's funny. Another name the Apparently the Knicks
have some level of interest in Jacid. Oh really yeah?
And if you remember, you know, after the MAVs didn't
sign resign any of that championship team after twenty eleven,

(01:46:29):
Jakib actually went played for the Knicks those next two years.

Speaker 4 (01:46:33):
Give Meta a chance, so he had some connection, Give
Meda a chance.

Speaker 1 (01:46:37):
If I would be more than happy to see Jacib
leave Dallas, but for pure entertainment purposes, give me Meta
world Peace trying to just could you imagine how much
he would yell at Cat like every time Cat would
do one of his goofy faces or anything like the
little sassy pass. Well, and also, are we sure Metal

(01:47:00):
World Peace might not actually like he was one of
the smartest basketball IQ players of that generation.

Speaker 4 (01:47:07):
If there's one thing he knew, he knew how to
play ball.

Speaker 1 (01:47:10):
Might not be a bad head coach, just maybe might
need to might need to get some seasoning at the
end of a bench somewhere, hit me, LG. I mentioned
a Johnson Johnson High connection when you randomly said it earlier.
We San Antonio just had a kid win Gatorade Texas

(01:47:31):
Baseball Player of the Year. And it's the first time
it is a San Antonio kid has ever won the
award because I usually go as Dallas Kids or Houston, yeah,
or hell even you Austin or the Valley. The Valley
always cranks out good baseball programs. But not only it's

(01:47:52):
Johnson's Cason Cunningham. Not only is he the first San
Antonio kid to win the award, well, first of all,
he hit five oh nine this season's so I mean
I think Johnson went.

Speaker 4 (01:48:05):
I saw it earlier.

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
There was like twenty one and thirteen made the playoffs
but didn't make a deep run.

Speaker 4 (01:48:10):
But it wasn't because of him.

Speaker 1 (01:48:11):
Yeah, he hit over five hundred on the season, plays shortstop,
So you know he's just a stud, right. Oh man?

Speaker 4 (01:48:19):
This is I got to ask my kid if he
knows him well.

Speaker 1 (01:48:23):
I I have to. I have to admit I wish
I had known more about this kid during this season,
because I would have He is a UT commit. Yeah,
but he's probably not gonna go to UT because he
is the eleventh player on the big board for the
upcoming MLB.

Speaker 4 (01:48:42):
Draft, So they're putting him a number eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:48:44):
Like I was looking at it early, like what was
not baseball perspectives, but one of these you know, recruiting
one of these draft uh you know, big board aggregators,
and it was he's falling somewhere between, like right outside
the top ten, but somewhere a gate. Oh he's if

(01:49:05):
you're but you get in now we got in ile money. Yeah,
but it's not Texas football in IL money.

Speaker 4 (01:49:12):
But it's Texas baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:49:14):
Yeah. I don't think.

Speaker 4 (01:49:14):
They're You don't think they're gonna give him a couple
of meal.

Speaker 1 (01:49:17):
No, they would, but I don't think they would match
he would if he went eleventh in the upcoming baseball draft,
he would make more turning pro immediately.

Speaker 4 (01:49:27):
I don't think he takes.

Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
Brice Harper where he'd be on the field at nineteen. Yeah, well,
I mean he's he still would go through somebody's system,
you know. Yeah, right, did Bryce Harper even do a
triple A or double A? I think he went straight Now.
I thought he had some level of seasoning. I think
he I think he was still a call up because
he was also so young because he had skipped senior

(01:49:50):
year of high school and played that one year of JUCO.
So he was like a super super young number one pick.
But yeah, I wish we had gone and seen him
because he's about to potentially go top ten and he's
one of the best shortstops in all of America. Oh man,
I can't wait to see what he does. Hit me LG.

Speaker 4 (01:50:10):
We didn't have I've never I've never heard of this one.

Speaker 1 (01:50:14):
We had a yes hitter.

Speaker 4 (01:50:18):
One Brandon p.

Speaker 1 (01:50:21):
F a a d T.

Speaker 4 (01:50:22):
Brandon fan through his through the first no, first yes
hitter in baseball history. He wins zero innings, six hits,
eight runs, eight e r A, zero ks, zero balls
on base, which means if there was eight runs, he
just decked a couple people. That is so why is

(01:50:44):
it called a yes hitter?

Speaker 1 (01:50:46):
Because a no.

Speaker 2 (01:50:48):
Hitter is you didn't get me, yes, everybody got me. Okay, okay,
like the whole team got him.

Speaker 4 (01:50:57):
Before before even one out, one out.

Speaker 1 (01:51:00):
More like a spring training line than I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
Seems like it was like a David Wells on a
like if he wasn't the greatest you know, user of acid. Yeah,
he threw that perfect game when he was, but that
was the sweet Dot Goodin who was a high acid
through a perfect games.

Speaker 1 (01:51:25):
Still one of the greatest accomplishments in athletic history. Hit
me LG A couple of cowboys notes real quick. First
of all, Dak had a kid, and if I'm Dak,
there is no way I am putting pictures out of

(01:51:45):
my partner and newborn baby because all of the comments,
all of the repliments were gonna win. They just destroyed
the man as he's making his baby announcement to the
world and it's nothing but memes and jokes about the
baby getting intercepted coming out.

Speaker 4 (01:52:06):
Let's let's see, letsie, if LG has the pic that
I sent to him for last show, you can show
right here. Speaking of babies, hit me LG. Yeah, hit
the lightning, get that lightning.

Speaker 1 (01:52:20):
Oh man, you're gonna tell me that there's not ugly
babies out there. This baby looks like Woody Harrelson.

Speaker 3 (01:52:28):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
They put this baby up there and the internet got
in said, okay, but how does the doughar look like
Woody Harrelson.

Speaker 2 (01:52:37):
And sweet Woody, you know he put o to Cora.
You're an adorable child, flattered to be compared. You have
a wonderful smile, and I wish I had your hair,
Sweet Woody Harrelson.

Speaker 1 (01:52:51):
Yeah, I just can't imagine, like imagine being imagine that
being like your niece or something, and you're looking at
you see it all the time at family function and.

Speaker 4 (01:53:00):
You're just staring like that's the creepiest thing I've ever
seen in my life.

Speaker 1 (01:53:03):
You can't.

Speaker 4 (01:53:04):
You can't tell your brother that, Like, dude, you gotta
like horror movies, like baby.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
If your baby freaks me out, I'm gonna tell you
your baby's freaking me out, man Like, Like I was
the person who actually told was trying to be like
godfather to one of my friend's kids, and they like
did the name, and I said, that's a horrible name.

Speaker 4 (01:53:23):
Oh yeah, No, there's no.

Speaker 1 (01:53:24):
Hated me for you.

Speaker 4 (01:53:25):
They hated me so much for like a year.

Speaker 1 (01:53:28):
You went full Kenny Powers when that first season where
she tells me we named her Rose after my favorite
movie character.

Speaker 4 (01:53:35):
It's like the Tan was the stupidest name.

Speaker 1 (01:53:38):
Why didn't you name him Shrek?

Speaker 2 (01:53:40):
I man, I was like, I dude, I couldn't believe
I said it, And like she's now in high school
and she's the most beautiful little girl and I love
her name now, But like when it first happened, I'm like,
that's dumb.

Speaker 1 (01:53:55):
Look if it's dumb, you got it. If it's dumb,
it's dumb. Hit me lgres Yeah, exactly. The other Cowboys
note I had Trayvon Diggs is not rehabbing with the
team after the knee injury last year. He is set
to lose five hundred thousand dollars off of his nine

(01:54:17):
million base salary because the Cowboys are one of the
only teams that right in contract de escalators for not
attending voluntary offseason workouts.

Speaker 4 (01:54:30):
So they're not voluntary.

Speaker 1 (01:54:32):
They are because he still has the option and he
didn't have to sign the contract.

Speaker 2 (01:54:38):
But it's like, I still have the option to go
play for the Cowboys, but I can technically not show
up whenever I want to.

Speaker 1 (01:54:45):
But the contract that he agreed to says I just
can't keep the money. It feels like the lead, the
seed the players Union is probably not very happy. I'm
thinking the lead is voluntary.

Speaker 2 (01:54:58):
The word voluntary mean, you know, I'm not going to
be penalized if I don't do something, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
But usually what the word voluntary is like, it's like
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:55:09):
How to take the reservation, you just don't know how
to hold the reservations all.

Speaker 1 (01:55:14):
And that's really the important part about it. That's the
whole thing about the reservation is the holding part all.

Speaker 4 (01:55:20):
Sign got to get me out of there on the
sein film Hit me one.

Speaker 1 (01:55:24):
More time, LG.

Speaker 4 (01:55:25):
We'll close it out here.

Speaker 1 (01:55:30):
The great Uncle Andy is finishing up his Scotland trip,
So shout out to Uncle Andy as he travels back
home from across the pond. He played eleven courses in
eleven days.

Speaker 4 (01:55:43):
God, my knees just hurt it. Yeah, and he's.

Speaker 1 (01:55:46):
Twice our age, or not twice our age, but he's
got some rorsn he's got some here, So shout out
Uncle Andy, and then we'll close it out with this.
Last night I met up with one of my high
school buddies who's in town with his whole family doing
the summer vacation to San Antonio. So they were yesterday.
They did all the downtown, they did the river boats,

(01:56:09):
they did what else? They did the tower of the Americas.
He took his whole family over.

Speaker 4 (01:56:15):
I don't get being an elevator that long, but it
got me thinking.

Speaker 1 (01:56:19):
It got me to think he also took his family
to the Alamo. Surely, surely, there's no way someone has
left a one star review on the Almo with a
couple of one star reviews on our beloved Alamo. Marcy says,
this used to be an amazing historical site. It is

(01:56:42):
not any longer. Another I'm gonna read it exactly how
she wrote it. We can't assume I'm reading exactly what
she wrote. Another loss, the crazy woke agenda, super crowded
tourist trap. So to Marcy, the woke agenda has it's

(01:57:04):
I don't. It doesn't make any sense. It never does.
But Marcy just says it is deserving of a one star.
David who I will give him his last name, David Wang.
I'm not making it up.

Speaker 4 (01:57:17):
One star the Asia.

Speaker 1 (01:57:19):
This place is way too overrated. It's just an old
church and bunch of old walls. There's no fort or
anything remarkable to look at. Sure a historical event happened here,
but there's no benefit to seeing the walls in person
versus just reading about the event and a book. If
you feel it's significant, then you'll love this place. But

(01:57:41):
the ruins themselves aren't interesting. Of all the things I
saw in ninety seven degree humid heat, this was the
most boring. One star for David. What do you think
anything historical has?

Speaker 6 (01:57:55):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:57:55):
Is it gonna like fluff you or something? Is it
going to give you a exactly like you're you chose
to go to a Unesco historical Slightly brother, that's.

Speaker 4 (01:58:08):
On you, and we're gonna pop out the corner. Scary.

Speaker 1 (01:58:11):
You close it out with one more from Andrew here
who he suggests go to the zoo. Don't spend your
time for this bricks. My son had wrote article I'm
reading again exactly how he wrote. My son had wrote
article about Alamo, so we came here to see it.

(01:58:31):
Waste of your time? Well, Andrew, I think I speak
for everyone on the program here. You could not be
more wrong. But we will give you the final thought of.

Speaker 4 (01:58:42):
The episode tonight. You did deserve that, at least for a.

Speaker 1 (01:58:45):
Uh Andrew, you right, well, An, I did make me
feel happy. Andrew. Your Alamo Alamo review not good the
Andrew ninety seven degree humid heat weather is just called
the summer here, get us out of here, LG. Thanks

(01:59:08):
again everybody riding along. If you haven't noticed these episodes
going a little longer, maybe we have a little bit
more planned, or at least are planning a little bit
more going into them. If you want to reach us,
you can find me at Biggest Puma on X, Biggest
Dot Puma.

Speaker 4 (01:59:24):
On Instah, Insta, The Captain two one oh. So we're
going on that TikTok. We'll get that TikTok a bit.
So we're going on that TikTok. But let's hear from
you till then you'll be good, Be safe, peace.

Speaker 6 (01:59:41):
Kids.

Speaker 1 (01:59:41):
What do we say about drugs? Yeah,

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