June 21, 2024 • 41 mins
The Celtics are champions of the world again which means Paul was ON one and had to bring out his Larry OB trophy for today's episode of THE TRUTH LOUNGE! The Truth and Jason Crowe react to the win, discuss who the biggest threat is to Boston, and debate whether Jrue Holiday and Al Horford are hall of famers. Plus, Is Jaylen Brown the most disrespected superstar and are their any free agents who can swing the balance in the Eastern Conference?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, welcome to the Truth Lounge, Boston Celtics eighteen Championship.
Check this out, man, we hang up real banners. We
don't put up, not in season playing or whatever kind
of banners they talking about, We don't put them up.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You know what I'm saying. We put up the real ones.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
So congratulations to the Seas and that other team that won,
that other whatever, that that Christmas mid season whatever, halfway.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Point batter y'all can do. What the hell y'all want.
We got that real one, truth clowns. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
All right, everybody, Welcome to the Truth Lounge, Boston Celtic
Championship edition. One of the greatest runs in finals history. Yeah,
y'all gonna say, oh, who did they play? But check
it out. We got a lot to discuss, So come
on in and join us for championship talk. So Jay, man,
(01:07):
it's a lot to kind of soak in. Man, It's
like so many different conversations we can have off of this.
It's just like, yeah, they won at the road. Tatum Brown,
what is he ring? I mean, let me hold first
before you even can start it is Brown one of
the most disrespected superstars in our league right.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Now, no, no more. Everybody spoke up on his behalf.
You had Jason Kidd announced that he's better. You had
all these conversations. So he won the finals MVP. So
I think that he's the highest paid player on the Celtic.
I don't think he's disrespected with money or fame.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
What a better year Mahomes or Jayalen Brown.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Mahomes has a better year every year than everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I'm saying this year, who had a better year? Mahomes
or Jayleen Brown?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Mahomes No, look, Mahomes signed the quarter quarterback is the
most ballers position in sports.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Mahome, I'm sighed for five hundred. Jaylen Brown signed for three. Okay,
Mahomes won a chip. Jaylen Brown wont a chip his
first one. Mahomes welcome into the club.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah. But this year, I'm saying this year, who had
a better year?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Mahme because he did it. Like from the ground up,
it was, oh, they're not that good. No Treek Hill,
no weapons, no this, no that they can't get a win.
They had to go on the road and win games.
My homeboy is that guy. He's being talked about for
this run. Put him up there with the all time greats.
He's in the Gold discussions already.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So where would you rank this Celtic team?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I saw some interesting things today on the last couple
of days on the Celtics statistically.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Where would you rank.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
This Celtics team all time? Are they top just? Are
they a top five or ten team all time?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Well? They have to be. They have to be.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
By the way that they are, by the way that
they won, the dominance in which they prepared. I see, yeah, no,
not just in the playoffs, the way they carried the
regular season. They were so good on both sides of
the ball. They had talent that their rotation was intact.
They lost a starter and didn't miss a beat. They
were that deep. So they got to be one of
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the all time great teams. When you look back at it,
you have to say that, I mean, they're going to
be pulling off. Now we have all this conversation off
of this team. Now we're developing more Hall of famers.
Drew Holliday, Is he a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
But the Celtics had out of the eighty whatever all
their games they played this year from regular season through
the playoffs, they had they led by twenty and.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Fifty of them in about fifty. Yeah, I mean they
were a dominant team.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
No, but they led by twenty in about almost half
their games at some point.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Well, I mean, I'm not gonna let that stat.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Dominant. But I'm not gonna.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Let that stat because you got other teams like the
Denver Nuggets back in the day. I really studied that
team in regards to scoring because they didn't shoot a
lot of threes and they and they let the league
in scoring by a mile.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
That teams bro So we don't even know.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
But the scoring numbers and blowouts come about your playing style.
They get credit for that. That's a good cute stat,
But that's that Golden State. Teams that shoot the three,
that get ahead of you, that make five threes in
the quarter, boom, they up. They're just a great team
that they played to their streams. They had guys that
can dribble, pass and shoot and defend. They're a great team.
I mean, guys like Ry White. All those guys make
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you a great team.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
So could this Boston seven team. So I had this
conversation on Undisputed a couple of days ago. Could And
I said that this team could match up with the
two thy seventeen.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Warriors with Durant. What you think, Yeah, they can match up. Yeah,
this is the type of team to beat them. This
is the type of team you need if you're trying
to beat them up.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Because you got two guards. Look at what the Celtics
have come on they back court. We're gonna look at
Curry and Klay Thompson at their best and say that's
a better back.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
They arguably is that arguably the best back.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
These guys can match them defensively, they can't match them offensively.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
But they guess it's Curry and Clay arguably the best
back forever.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Somebody's argument, now mine, And now it's Drew.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
The best back courtever. With Jordan's somebody it's Drew and
White the best defensive back courtever.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Let me think about all of this. It's too much
coming right now just talking about the greatest. When you
start saying the best, you gotta do your research, all right.
They're great backpoort defensively and offensively. They can drive the ball,
they can play out the close out, they shoot the three,
they get to the dunker spot. They offensive Yeah, these
are two great guards, but it's made possible by the
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wings they play with.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
These guys play with.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah, I mean analytics, that's dominant. It's a dominant offensive stat.
But I mean, I don't I think that number.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Is the most fifty point wins this year. They had
the most forty.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Point, They had the most firepower, they had the most
thirty point. You have Porzingis on the team, and he
didn't play in the playoffs, but he played doing them against.
He was a cheek hot. He stretches the floor and
block shots. He's Rudy Gobert.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
With a three.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
He's what they needed to get. He's just he's that tall.
I'm saying that you got to drag him out. He's
not a joke out there. He's very high percentage. It's
not a bad comparison because he's doing the same thing
Rudy Gobert doing defensive getting block shots.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Rudy Gobert because he can kind of guard the guard
a little better.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Jesus, he's better than defensive per you on defense. Yeah,
who everybody want to just down go beart.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Everybody's better than.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I was an overrated award this year to keep it
real because I feel like like I thought Bam out
of buy you probably was the best.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I think he's probably you can't give it to a
health defender.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
No, no, no, no, Bam, out of buy you he's
a health defender. But he's not. No, he's a health defender. Listen, listen.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Before you go. Can I make my point about Bam?
He can guard all five positions, he can switch on
any position, and he can guard his position.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Who else can do that?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Oh that's fine and dandy, But guys, what Jalen Brown
just did against Luca in that series is greater than
what any of them can do. He wore him down.
He scored the ball.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
So you said Jalen Brown is the best defender in
the league.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yes, what he just did to Luca, he didn't shut
Luca down, he wore him down. He committed to that
type of energy. That's why I think that's the best
player in the league.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Offensively. Is Luca the best scorer in this league? Jalen
Brown is the best two way player in the LA.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
He's the best defensive player in the league.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I think he's the best two way player in the league. Okay, well,
I mean shows.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
He's just as gifted offensively as he is defensively.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
With that matchup, with Luca, gave him opportunity to have
us saying that. And that's where I'm getting it from.
When you go ad Luca and you commit that type
of energy, we haven't seen nobody commit that type of
energy and being that being that successful. We know Luca
was banged up as a long season, all the excuses
we want to give, but what he did matching his
physicality and slowing him down, making him inefficient, making Luca settle,
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getting fouled, filing him out on both like, he just
went up against Luca the Don and he was able
to make that guy the best you can play inefficient basketball,
wayam down. That was the greatest defensive performance of the
NBA season period. And that's why I'm saying the defensive
player of the year today's game has to go to
a wing defender. There's too much you asking them, guys. Yeah, okay,
(09:01):
I can switch out.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
So he's the most underrated player in the league. Is
he the most underrated player in the league? Man, No,
he's not underrated. He didn't make no All NBA team.
Well he did he make nor did he make no
All Defensive team? Based on what you've sayen he.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Won the finals MVP, which is an ultimate title. Now
i'ma I'm gonna swing this to you because I got
no saying this. Even though you let me put the
jacket around you. That was a great honor. You understand,
this is your talk now. Jew Holliday, West Coast we
love him. We love his style. I mean because for
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us guys that come from the West, we get a
stigma that we don't want to play hard, that.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
We're not tough.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
This guy is tough, gritty, and he has his own
style all his own.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
He's a unique player.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Is Jew Holliday a Hall of Famer at this point
with two championships or does he have more work to
do on a resume.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I think I think he's so.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Uh so.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
There's certain guys you look at and they might not
put up the most Gaudi stats, but you look at
him and say, listen, he's a winner, like even before
they won, you like you felt like when you always
looked at him, He's a winner, Like I need somebody
like him on my team if I'm trying to win.
(10:29):
He's gonna He's a two time champion, he's about to
be a two time Olympic gold medalist, and he's been
instrumental on just a number of teams. So when I
look at players, it's comparables. Chauncey Billups, who I believe
will be a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
This year.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
No, No, well he's yeah, Chauncey Billups is comparing guys like.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I like Johnson, Billa, I like Chohncey Villa.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
You know what you reminds he's like Dennis Johnson. Okay,
like what I said, Herd said that Dennis Johnson was
the best player you.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Ever played with. He had a finals MVP though he
did in nineteen seventy seven with Seattle.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Uh so is he a Hall of Famer? I believe so?
So if you're you know Rondo, him like them? Is
his comparables, care parables, Rondo, Chauncey Billups, Right, you know
what I'm saying. Right, I do believe he's a Hall
of Famer.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Now pushes the line on this team. I think the
better question is is our Horford and hall of Famer?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I don't know what you think. Where's his comparables? I
like the comparables you gave, you know, and those guys
that you name, they wasn't first ballots, but they got
in right. So who is our horfes comparable in the
Hall of Fame because he's never been a defensive for
the year or has he like does he have all
(12:23):
NBA's I'm not sure when.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
He I think he's like a six time All Star,
five time All Star.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
He made all Defensive.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
So who's his comparable? But he's been a two time
na A Champion, SEC Tournament, MVP College Hall of Fame
for sure. I think his comparable is more like Deva
or like, come on, man, what would kill us?
Speaker 3 (12:57):
He wasn't comparable to all Horford?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
You mean career? What are you talking career? A lot
of Defas was cold.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
We're talking skills set? Are we talking this career? Devas
is real card. I can't expect by Devaux Bla. Deva
gave my first job as a professional in his hometown.
He gave me a check personally when the team didn't
pay me. So I love him. I got that check
in my next to my drums.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Comparable for our Horford.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
You're talking about a defensive player that comparable like I
don't know, I'm saying in the Hall of Fame, like
lot of Devach, no, Tonny Coop, other is a champion,
was killer Pippy didn't want to go in.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
He made this shot. Are you you mad? Give me
the ball? The waiter bro, knock it off.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Compare him to the waiter man, I'm trying to think.
Compared him the cool coach who got a three peat
was out there heavy. That's the waiter bro. Come on,
I know.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
And Drew is a good comparable. I like that.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
You don't have nothing for Horford, so.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
But I just think Rondo Edge is man.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Rondo edges Drew. Yes, yes, no, no way. You don't
have the Olympics and it's and he And when Rondo
won it in the bubble, he was off the bench.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
He was a autistically dog.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
The things that in the championship runs he played with
the greatest players of all time.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
So it's true.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
No, he's not not in his career coming up, coming.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Up like that. Drew played with Prime.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
He's out here starting lineup. When he was out here
in the runs late Ron.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Was in his second year.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
You know that, right, you know that right when when
he won a chip, Yeah, second year of the league,
and he was and he wasn't the second he wasn't
in the death lineup.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yes, he was. No, it wasn't. Not in the last game,
but he was.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Juhwa days in the game. Whenever this game is on
the line, so was Rondo. You didn't watch the games.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I was. You ain't watching the games? Lord, I'm going
on with watching the game.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
You said that first year he wasn't in the death line.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
No, he was in every He was at the end,
at the end of the game, in all the games.
But the Dallas, Like, I don't know who's a better He's.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Not a better defender, no way, Rondo is a team defender.
He can't guard nobody. He's a cone. Jesus, this is crazy.
I can't believe the slender. That's a good coro. One
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of them is an Olympic level player.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
No one of them was. Fortunately, that's it.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
That's it right there, dog, he's Olympic level.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I don't really got to I don't really put a
lot of stock on Olympic gold.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
You just said it when he was talking.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
No, but I don't put a lot of stock on
it because if you're on the team, like he's.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Necessary for the team, because he's a flex player that
can do everything.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
They handpicked him for this team.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
A gold medal they handpicked. He's a different level defender.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Let's knock it off, Like I'm giving you the gold
medal before you even play this year, Like that's the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
No, we want on this team. They lost the thing.
They lost right, They called we need you, Holliday, Jude,
you just won.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Can you get here? When can you get here?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
They was like, it's like, no, j Howe is gonna
get here late.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
He's gonna show. He showed up. We had dropped one.
We out there with lilarded him out there.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
They couldn't figure it out. Milwaukee, We out there were
the liard ter. We dropped one. He come out there
and restore order. Come on, dog, knock it off. Jue
Holli is a different level dog. He's a different level
of everything. Stronger, he's tougher, he could do more. He's
at the dunker spot now away. I have seen one
players Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Did Drew. It was like he had no idea how
to play defense.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Butler is a tough matchup. I've never seen you don't
like that wasn't taking him match up?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Stop it. He was how you telling me? How you
telling me? Was he taking against the Lakers?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
What do you what.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
One team?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Who was he guardening that was killer? You said he
guarded Lebron. He didn't guard Lebron like that and crude
critical time stuff. He can play full court on Lebron.
We passed it up and we get over half court.
Now you was overseas I watched the game. Who is
he garden? I'm asking you he guarded and you got
him as a better who not? Everybody tell me who
he guarded?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
That was like matched up with whoever? Who did he
guard Dog?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
That mattered that he was like he took him out.
Holladay is making you minimum dog Derrek, He's minimizing people.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
He had to guard Derek Rose, He had to guard
Darren Williams when Darren was Chris Paul.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Like, we're talking about we're talking about the point guard slots.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, he got the guarded way. The years he was
first team has Drew Bay first team on.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
The Jewish argued jew was the best defender in the league.
They said by his peers was a better defender Drew Holiday.
Dog It's not even close. He can really guard Lebron.
He can really do it.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
He pope for the first Team six six first teams Rondo.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Rondo is the first team a huss He's a Scrabbery's
a unique athlete, big hands, long arms, freaking nature athlete.
Rondo is incredible. Now I'm I'm clowning though, But Rondo's incredible.
But Jew is something different. On defense, Rondo's incredible. Jew
is different, Doog. He's in his reign at thirty three
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years old. His body, his technique, his strength. You said
it's the best defensive back court.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
It's the combination of two guys.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah, because they both called as hell.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Well, if you say Rondo Tony Allen, I'm taking that
back court defensively, defensively.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Over any back court defensively.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
If we want to just talk about defensively Tony Allen
and Rondo, I'm taking that.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Over whoever such an anemic shooting back court. Im you
want to shoot? I want to say, defensive.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Who you taking that back court? Of this one? Defensively?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
No, this one is not enough to compensate for the offense.
You're not better if you are, because one of them
is blocking dunks.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Of yr who did he block? Lively? He blocked your
center dunk?
Speaker 3 (20:08):
What you mean avert?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
He blocking dunk.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
It was it was a drop of me. He didn't
get no running start. It was off a drop step man,
What do you mean when right up and blocked it?
Nobody's doing that and the guards pout of your center,
not even jumping. He went up off verse and got it.
This is this duo is a better duo. Let's knock
it off.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Oh we got some new jtz's Okay, Okay, I'm in it.
Look see I got blood on these right here when
I broke my finger. I gotta get some new boys. Ooh,
don't do them like that. Okay, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Baby. That's how you laced the ol G. That's how
you lace the ol G. That's what I'm talking about.
You probably we got what we got.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Oh, they gave me some labors this time.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Last time they sent me to it the same. That's what.
Oh my god? Oh the we need to get? Why
not got these? Uh? Then you got those? We need
to get why not in in some of these?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Thess lit just get me and something started?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Damn. Okay, That's what I'm talking about. Shoes Champ, Thank
you Champ, thank you Jordan Bryan.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I appreciate Lason the o g Oh yeah, theseus is
gonna get some good way out of these, baby, That's
what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
That's that's what I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Give me exclusively the ones appreciated chap That's what I'm
talking about.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Oh yeah, let's keep these right here.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
You got the Celtics raising Banner eighteen. They set up
they bringing everybody back.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
We're saying they bring they bringing everybody back.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Right, So what what is that gonna do next year?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Like?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
How strong do you think that each gets better? Do
you think with Greek freak or the selling just too
high above or what's what's gonna happen with that right there?
And your imagine that because each should be more competitive
next year? Why do you say that, Well, just more
guys being healthy and jailing. Maybe you don't give that.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I think the Celtics are set up for the next
five years to win at least two more championships.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
So you're banging on that duo that duo.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Tatum is twenty six twenty seven, Brown twenty six twenty seven,
per zingis I think I believe twenty eight be twenty nine.
Drew Holliday is up there, White is relatively young. As
long as you got your foundation, Peyton Pitcher's young. As
long as you got your pain, your core, which is
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Brown and Tatum and Derek White and then Drew, He'll
be you know, three to five years. The rest of
everybody else can be plug and play. Eventually you'll have
to figure out how to replace Horford, and I think
everything is right there.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Tillman can turn into a Horford type player.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
You don't turn into a Horford type player.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Though, well, I mean he could just like just like
how you have.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
No no, no, no no, But I'm talking about now Horford,
just like when the Bulls went from like Craig Hodges
to bj Armstrong to to to Steve Kerr to Pack
from Packson style of player can plug and play that
style that Horford playing now.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Not all star al, but Al is like a grinder,
you know.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
If he opened Man, that's tough like line.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Somebody that can do what our Horford is doing right now.
Maybe not everything, but a lot of things like just
knock down open threes and.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Be a strong defender. You don't need them to do much.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
You don't need that position to do much though, but
it's critical that they that they are dominant scoring, shoot,
I mean, spacing and rebounding in defense, if you can.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Find that guy space space at that position, whether it
be till mean he develops into that because he knocked
down to three.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Al saw himknocked down to three in the playoffs, So
I'm like, damn, I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
How could shoot that right?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
And then you got you know, other guys who we
can kind of fill in for the next five years.
I mean, I believe that our Harford can do what
he's doing right now three more years.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
So how about how about how was it with y'all?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
You want to chip ohay, oh nah?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I'm y'all go off to a killer star and we
was better look at like because you go from lizten.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
So when you win it, you already used.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
So you go from thinking you could probably win it,
and then when you win it and you know you
can win it, that's a different type of attitude. That's
a different type of swag. Now, so like the next
year after we want it, you go from maybe thinking
you can win it.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
And knowing you can win it. It's two different things.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
So coming back that next year, we felt like we
was I mean, I didn't know I didn't say we
felt like that we were better.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I think we started off.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
The season like twenty seven and two, well something around
there before KG went down.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
But I swear to you we were a better team
the next year.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I think too, because because.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, but we got better. So now you look at
the Celtics like.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
He got better, Like y'all was already at the level,
right and now he now he's an all star level
player the next year coming off that chip, Like, who
is going to take their game to other level? Because
that was gonna be required because you're gonna get everybody's best.
So who's gonna take that game to the level for
the Celtics? Are they there right now just cruising?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I think they set. I think they set. You know,
you don't need nobody to take that game necessary another level.
It's just understanding you can win now and know that
you can win. It's two different things.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
It's like because they're younger than y'all. Y'all was because
I think.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
They, like Jason and Jalen is entering their prime, right,
so we're being so what's being better for them is
everybody being more consistent, not in and night out. You
know what I'm saying, but just the trust growing too,
trust consistency, Derek White.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
If anybody's getting better, it's Derek White. Dan, He's still
getting better.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
But I feel like Tatum is evolving now though I'm
seeing it.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Brown won MVP, but eat.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Tatum evolving because I said this when they played in
the twenty twenty two finals, and it was a game
where Tatum had like ten assists and I looked, I
was looking like, damn. I know he averaged in like
twenty seven, twenty eight, but he had like twenty two
or twenty three and eleven assists, ten assists in that
game and ain't one golden state. And I just been
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saying to myself, like, damn, that's the best game I
seen him play all year. And then he came back
in twenty twenty three and average thirty, which was fine,
But if you look at these finals, when he declaimed
that consistent playmaker, that's when they were at their best.
Think about game five, he had eleven assists, they was
blowing them out. Same thing in game one. Playmaking, his playmaking,
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his playmaking is what's gonna help him evolve now. And
that's what I learned, because I learned that when I
got Kevin and Ray, I was like, all right, I
was always a natural scorer, and I didn't trust my
teammates because they wasn't that good anyway. But when I
got them, I was like trust today, not seriously though.
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So I go from So when you look at my game,
my evolvement in my game, I understood when it was
a game I need to score, and I understood when
it was a game where I needed to be a
good playmaker. So if you look at our championship run,
in game four they needed me to score. I had
like thirty eight. I think I had like thirty eight
in game four. No, game five, it was game five,
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I had like thirty eight. Game six I had seventeen
points and ten assists. Because I was like this wasn't
that I had understanding the game where it needed me
to be a playmaker. Boom, So I'm gonna be aggressive
and find guy. Yeah the team is hitting, Yeah, I
have to find guys.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, like craw Damn.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I'm looking like damn, you know, And I think that's
the that's how the Celtics is going to evolve as
Tatum evolves into that. Because every game where he had
like high level, high number assists, they played their best.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
I thought that means they're making shots.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Ticket went down. Yeah, but we didn't bring everybody back.
We didn't bring back Posy Posy win it like five
million a year, and I think that really hurt us
now and now like us fast forward to today, like
records like we're bringing everybody back. Yeah, you just won
like that feeling huh, And I'm thinking, like damn, why
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we didn't do that in two thousand and nine. But
we was like twenty seven and two to start the season.
We was forty four and eleven when ticket went down,
and we still won sixty plus games. I think we
was like sixty two and eight, like sixty twenty Yeah,
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sixty two. We won sixty two games that year. The
following year, so Ticket missed twenty seven games. Think about
those twenty seven games we won sixty two games. Think
about this ticket. Look, we won sixty two games and
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Ticket missed twenty seven of them. Do the math, So
I have won seventy games.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Or Ticket played rus sixty seven.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
So in saying all that, the year after we won
the title, we was a better team. Do you think
the Celtics next year will be better. I mean, this
is one of the all time dominant teams. You think
they can be better next year.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I do, because they're young. I don't know if they
can be better from a wins and lost the standpoint
because we got to see how they manage the year.
Do they spend some time developing other players? Do they
rest a holiday and let Pritcher get more minutes in
certain games and just deal with that to have long
term effects. We don't know what they're gonna do statistic,
but we know when the rubber meets the roll. They
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have their formula. They're not changing nothing. They have defensive players,
they have offensive players. They have a style that they
have cultivated that is dominant. So we got to see
what's the plan to get everybody healthy because they have
been one of the more healthier teams. They've had some
injuries in the playoffs here and there, but when you
look at it, their stars, their guys, they've been more.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
House comes into play.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I'll tell you comes into play when you win it.
It's that next year when you play the other team
knows you.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
The champs, and there's a fear factor.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
There's a fear factor that wins you games, it's like
Damn least like Damn leads the champs, Like you know
what I'm saying. Like, seriously, there's a fear factor that
comes with winning, like being being that team and coming
into that arena and you're looking them in the eye
and they they don't want to look at you in
the eye, Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
But that's only gonna work versus Detroit and.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Well think about it, only half the teams make the
make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
So just taking care of your business with those teams.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Taking care of your business with those teams.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
So man, I'm telling you it's a fear factor that
come winn because I remember when I was on that
team and I played.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Was the biggest threat to the Celtics next year?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
What team do you feel like?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I don't think there's nobody in the East that can
beat the Celtics, Like I just don't healthy So.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Who can beat them? Because people keeps I keep hearing
this Denver stuff. I don't believe that.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I don't never got to make it out the West.
First of all, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I don't believe that because I just don't believe they're
gonna have their own issues. And they didn't do what
you said, Wig Wonder. They didn't resign their people they
had I mean, what what Bruce Brown did for for
for Denver? Is it similar and Jeff Green? So they
let them go. Now's what you're talking about with Posey
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and that.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yeah, that val hurt. But if we had to have
Posy in twenty ten.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
But y'all wanted to, y'all lost, So yeah, you need
a Posy in twenty ten more experienced more shooting.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
And Eddie House, Yeah lost the shooting. We lost the shooting.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
So this year the NBA new rule is you can
negotiate with your own within your own team.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
In free agency before you hit the market. And so now.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Siakam has a four year deal on the table before
free agent actually starts with his team. So who do
you think is a significant free agent moving forward that
can maybe put a team over the top or.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Just can make.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
A significant impact by re signing with their own team.
To me, the one that stands out the most is
and now nobody, nobody for the Knicks, I believe they
have to sign him. You traded r J. Berry your
future away, you get this other guy. I think he
was a huge impact on their winning. He changed their defense,
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and you need a guy like him when you have
to play the Celtics, when you have to match up
against these athletic wings. But outside of that, maybe Paul
George significant I don't know. These guys are up in
a Lebron you know, he's forty. I'm not sure I
think did it.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
I think they did the best because they got their guy,
because they're a playoff team. They got a young point guard.
Siakam is still young. I think he's the best. They're
the best. They did the best job of getting their guy.
Don't let him hit the market because what you think.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Of Paul George though, do the Clippers need to resign him?
And and Klay Thompson.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
He's in a great position. The Clippers do need to
resign him. They gave up the kitchen sink for him,
But does he gave up No, they gave up like
seven first rounds. Okay, they gave up an MVP candidate
right now is the second and they got who what
what's the picks they got off that thing though, I
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don't know, I don't remember. It's a lot. Yeah, six
first rounders, like so I mean they need to sign
him though, but without a healthy Kawhi. You know, Kawhi
sign Paul Georgia. You resigned him, sign and trade him.
He resigned him.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
You have to to the max.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah, okay, I mean you like, what is your other option?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah? Because that's about what about Harden and Westbrook? Do
you resign them.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
If you can't? I mean Westbrook's under contract? Did he
opt out?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
No? I did a two years? What did he have
to player? Is he a free agent? Westbrook? Then he
had a player option, he got a player option. Did
you opt out? I'm not sure he did. I'm trying
to think if I'm him, would you opt out?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
You get more money elsewhere?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Which he don't want to leave. I don't think he
does play some games. I don't think he's unless he
knows something he can go to Denver, No Yoka in
the over Reggie Jackson. No, because Reggie Jackson can shoot
the space and maybe he's so inconsistent for them. Yeah,
but it's just styles, like when you got a player
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like Yo kids, you don't really want Westbrook unless you're
gonna have Westbrook run that second unit.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Run the second Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yeah, okay, well yeah, He's still valuable to this league.
I mean, no doubt about it. He's Westbrook, so Harden,
I mean, like you gotta run it back with them.
But I just feel like Indiana, because they're a playoff team.
You look at the rest of the landscape. How do
these other teams get better than all they players are signed?
So like Siakam is a guy that if he can
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play at the level he played at in these playoffs
and you can get another piece over there, can they
put more pressure. They got swept by Boston, but they
beat the Knicks. Nicks was playing well.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
It's a copycat league, and so what you try to
do is when you see a championship team win, you
try to emulate that. So then you try to put
together team that either emulates that or can counter that.
So I just don't see it in Indiana. Maybe if
New York gets healthy, they have a shot. But in
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the East, I just don't see it. Maybe Paul George
to a destination for Philadelphia, which I'm hearing that's that
could be a choice. Now Paul George ends up on Philly.
Do they do they pose a threat to the Celtics?
Speaker 2 (37:26):
You think? No, still know.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Well, my thing about the Paul George you're gonna get.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Today is Paul he can't play.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
He can play the third wheel, but he can't play
that dynamic two way that you're getting out of Brown
and take him with that energy right now. That's asking
too much of him at this stage of his career
to so he I know he can't do and I don't.
I think he can still score the ball. He's skilled,
he's gifted, he's but can he go out there and
play the defense that we saw from Jalen Brown against
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a guy of Luca. Can he go match and pick
up full to have that energy to play that start.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Taking all time Paul George or t Mac, I don't know.
I was thinking about that. Who who's taking?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
That's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
You know you can't slight Paul George playoff performances. Uh, teammate.
I'm taking teammate just when he went there. He lost
that series, but wasn't deared him that everybody when he
came in for the series and he called Big Dog
a puppy and started dropping forty, he lost, But.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I missed that, Yeah, really talking, He ain't no more
like that. They don't have a puppy, the big dog, right,
he's a puppy. He's a puppy. And then came out
there and gave forty. He was out there deliver what
I'm saying. That ain't in the NBA. No going with
t Max. That ain't an NBA no more. Who's more
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likely to do something like that? Patrick Beverley, No, he
can't get forty thoughs no what I'm saying. But he
gonna do something like that. Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Anthony Edwards, Uh, yeah, he's most likely to do that.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Nobody else.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Anthony Edwards got that swag.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
He got that type of swag, that kind of swagging
in the NBA no more. Though.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
He called out Kyrie and it was like he wasn't ready,
wasn't ready, that's all right? And he got that swag.
He got that type of like I'm the best in
the league. I want to see whoever. Like he came
at Kevin Durant like that was a pivotal thing that
he knew he had to do to win that series.
Were playing against legends. I got a de throne, the king.
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He took that mindset into that series and that's that
put them on a great run.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Man, check it out.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
It's been an amazing year Celgics wanted. This is about
to be a green summer.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Check this out.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
I'm going to I'm going into the parade, so we're
gonna get that footage of me on the parade, just
enjoying it. Just so happy for the Celtics this year. Man,
I couldn't be happier. And to top it all off,
you know, just to kind of see last summer, you know,
being able to be in the gym with Tatum and Brown,
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work out with them in the weight room, watch them
in the gym till like now, and then like to
see the fruits of their labor.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Dog.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
It's just like, damn, I saw the work that they
was kind of putting me in in the sacrifice. There
was sacrifices they was making, being in La being away
from their family, you know, and just doing what they
need to do to get to this right here.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
And now I'm gonna be able to enjoy the parade
with the fans.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
I was able to be, you know, my own parade,
and I know how it was, and I know it's
gonna be way better than it was when I When
I did it, everything everything gets better, So everything I'm
excited to do that.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
You're gonna have some footage, you know, on my face,
Tom you so.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
You know boom boom boom boom, Ben be lit my
red ar box of gard Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Oh man, I can't wait. But it's been a great season. Man.
We did it dog. Truth Blount is official, Me and
my god Jack Crow. Yo. Check out the behind the
scenes on my Instagram. I might go live, I might
go live some.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Make sure you can tune in Truth Lounge Championship Edition
Boston Celtics Batter eighteen
Speaker 2 (41:33):
That you have it
Yeah, welcome to the Truth Lounge, Boston Celtics eighteen Championship.
Check this out, man, we hang up real banners. We
don't put up, not in season playing or whatever kind
of banners they talking about, We don't put them up.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You know what I'm saying. We put up the real ones.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
So congratulations to the Seas and that other team that won,
that other whatever, that that Christmas mid season whatever, halfway.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Point batter y'all can do. What the hell y'all want.
We got that real one, truth clowns. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
All right, everybody, Welcome to the Truth Lounge, Boston Celtic
Championship edition. One of the greatest runs in finals history. Yeah,
y'all gonna say, oh, who did they play? But check
it out. We got a lot to discuss, So come
on in and join us for championship talk. So Jay, man,
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it's a lot to kind of soak in. Man, It's
like so many different conversations we can have off of this.
It's just like, yeah, they won at the road. Tatum Brown,
what is he ring? I mean, let me hold first
before you even can start it is Brown one of
the most disrespected superstars in our league right.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Now, no, no more. Everybody spoke up on his behalf.
You had Jason Kidd announced that he's better. You had
all these conversations. So he won the finals MVP. So
I think that he's the highest paid player on the Celtic.
I don't think he's disrespected with money or fame.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
What a better year Mahomes or Jayalen Brown.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Mahomes has a better year every year than everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I'm saying this year, who had a better year? Mahomes
or Jayleen Brown?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Mahomes No, look, Mahomes signed the quarter quarterback is the
most ballers position in sports.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Mahome, I'm sighed for five hundred. Jaylen Brown signed for three. Okay,
Mahomes won a chip. Jaylen Brown wont a chip his
first one. Mahomes welcome into the club.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah. But this year, I'm saying this year, who had
a better year?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Mahme because he did it. Like from the ground up,
it was, oh, they're not that good. No Treek Hill,
no weapons, no this, no that they can't get a win.
They had to go on the road and win games.
My homeboy is that guy. He's being talked about for
this run. Put him up there with the all time greats.
He's in the Gold discussions already.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So where would you rank this Celtic team?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I saw some interesting things today on the last couple
of days on the Celtics statistically.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Where would you rank.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
This Celtics team all time? Are they top just? Are
they a top five or ten team all time?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Well? They have to be. They have to be.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
By the way that they are, by the way that
they won, the dominance in which they prepared. I see, yeah, no,
not just in the playoffs, the way they carried the
regular season. They were so good on both sides of
the ball. They had talent that their rotation was intact.
They lost a starter and didn't miss a beat. They
were that deep. So they got to be one of
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the all time great teams. When you look back at it,
you have to say that, I mean, they're going to
be pulling off. Now we have all this conversation off
of this team. Now we're developing more Hall of famers.
Drew Holliday, Is he a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
But the Celtics had out of the eighty whatever all
their games they played this year from regular season through
the playoffs, they had they led by twenty and.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Fifty of them in about fifty. Yeah, I mean they
were a dominant team.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
No, but they led by twenty in about almost half
their games at some point.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Well, I mean, I'm not gonna let that stat.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Dominant. But I'm not gonna.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Let that stat because you got other teams like the
Denver Nuggets back in the day. I really studied that
team in regards to scoring because they didn't shoot a
lot of threes and they and they let the league
in scoring by a mile.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
That teams bro So we don't even know.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
But the scoring numbers and blowouts come about your playing style.
They get credit for that. That's a good cute stat,
But that's that Golden State. Teams that shoot the three,
that get ahead of you, that make five threes in
the quarter, boom, they up. They're just a great team
that they played to their streams. They had guys that
can dribble, pass and shoot and defend. They're a great team.
I mean, guys like Ry White. All those guys make
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you a great team.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
So could this Boston seven team. So I had this
conversation on Undisputed a couple of days ago. Could And
I said that this team could match up with the
two thy seventeen.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Warriors with Durant. What you think, Yeah, they can match up. Yeah,
this is the type of team to beat them. This
is the type of team you need if you're trying
to beat them up.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Because you got two guards. Look at what the Celtics
have come on they back court. We're gonna look at
Curry and Klay Thompson at their best and say that's
a better back.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
They arguably is that arguably the best back.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
These guys can match them defensively, they can't match them offensively.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
But they guess it's Curry and Clay arguably the best
back forever.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Somebody's argument, now mine, And now it's Drew.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
The best back courtever. With Jordan's somebody it's Drew and
White the best defensive back courtever.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Let me think about all of this. It's too much
coming right now just talking about the greatest. When you
start saying the best, you gotta do your research, all right.
They're great backpoort defensively and offensively. They can drive the ball,
they can play out the close out, they shoot the three,
they get to the dunker spot. They offensive Yeah, these
are two great guards, but it's made possible by the
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wings they play with.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
These guys play with.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah, I mean analytics, that's dominant. It's a dominant offensive stat.
But I mean, I don't I think that number.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Is the most fifty point wins this year. They had
the most forty.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Point, They had the most firepower, they had the most
thirty point. You have Porzingis on the team, and he
didn't play in the playoffs, but he played doing them against.
He was a cheek hot. He stretches the floor and
block shots. He's Rudy Gobert.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
With a three.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
He's what they needed to get. He's just he's that tall.
I'm saying that you got to drag him out. He's
not a joke out there. He's very high percentage. It's
not a bad comparison because he's doing the same thing
Rudy Gobert doing defensive getting block shots.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Rudy Gobert because he can kind of guard the guard
a little better.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Jesus, he's better than defensive per you on defense. Yeah,
who everybody want to just down go beart.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Everybody's better than.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I was an overrated award this year to keep it
real because I feel like like I thought Bam out
of buy you probably was the best.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I think he's probably you can't give it to a
health defender.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
No, no, no, no, Bam, out of buy you he's
a health defender. But he's not. No, he's a health defender. Listen, listen.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Before you go. Can I make my point about Bam?
He can guard all five positions, he can switch on
any position, and he can guard his position.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Who else can do that?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Oh that's fine and dandy, But guys, what Jalen Brown
just did against Luca in that series is greater than
what any of them can do. He wore him down.
He scored the ball.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
So you said Jalen Brown is the best defender in
the league.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yes, what he just did to Luca, he didn't shut
Luca down, he wore him down. He committed to that
type of energy. That's why I think that's the best
player in the league.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Offensively. Is Luca the best scorer in this league? Jalen
Brown is the best two way player in the LA.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
He's the best defensive player in the league.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I think he's the best two way player in the league. Okay, well,
I mean shows.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
He's just as gifted offensively as he is defensively.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
With that matchup, with Luca, gave him opportunity to have
us saying that. And that's where I'm getting it from.
When you go ad Luca and you commit that type
of energy, we haven't seen nobody commit that type of
energy and being that being that successful. We know Luca
was banged up as a long season, all the excuses
we want to give, but what he did matching his
physicality and slowing him down, making him inefficient, making Luca settle,
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getting fouled, filing him out on both like, he just
went up against Luca the Don and he was able
to make that guy the best you can play inefficient basketball,
wayam down. That was the greatest defensive performance of the
NBA season period. And that's why I'm saying the defensive
player of the year today's game has to go to
a wing defender. There's too much you asking them, guys. Yeah, okay,
(09:01):
I can switch out.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
So he's the most underrated player in the league. Is
he the most underrated player in the league? Man, No,
he's not underrated. He didn't make no All NBA team.
Well he did he make nor did he make no
All Defensive team? Based on what you've sayen he.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Won the finals MVP, which is an ultimate title. Now
i'ma I'm gonna swing this to you because I got
no saying this. Even though you let me put the
jacket around you. That was a great honor. You understand,
this is your talk now. Jew Holliday, West Coast we
love him. We love his style. I mean because for
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us guys that come from the West, we get a
stigma that we don't want to play hard, that.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
We're not tough.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
This guy is tough, gritty, and he has his own
style all his own.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
He's a unique player.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Is Jew Holliday a Hall of Famer at this point
with two championships or does he have more work to
do on a resume.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I think I think he's so.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Uh so.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
There's certain guys you look at and they might not
put up the most Gaudi stats, but you look at
him and say, listen, he's a winner, like even before
they won, you like you felt like when you always
looked at him, He's a winner, Like I need somebody
like him on my team if I'm trying to win.
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He's gonna He's a two time champion, he's about to
be a two time Olympic gold medalist, and he's been
instrumental on just a number of teams. So when I
look at players, it's comparables. Chauncey Billups, who I believe
will be a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
This year.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
No, No, well he's yeah, Chauncey Billups is comparing guys like.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I like Johnson, Billa, I like Chohncey Villa.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
You know what you reminds he's like Dennis Johnson. Okay,
like what I said, Herd said that Dennis Johnson was
the best player you.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Ever played with. He had a finals MVP though he
did in nineteen seventy seven with Seattle.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Uh so is he a Hall of Famer? I believe so?
So if you're you know Rondo, him like them? Is
his comparables, care parables, Rondo, Chauncey Billups, Right, you know
what I'm saying. Right, I do believe he's a Hall
of Famer.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Now pushes the line on this team. I think the
better question is is our Horford and hall of Famer?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I don't know what you think. Where's his comparables? I
like the comparables you gave, you know, and those guys
that you name, they wasn't first ballots, but they got
in right. So who is our horfes comparable in the
Hall of Fame because he's never been a defensive for
the year or has he like does he have all
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NBA's I'm not sure when.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
He I think he's like a six time All Star,
five time All Star.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
He made all Defensive.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
So who's his comparable? But he's been a two time
na A Champion, SEC Tournament, MVP College Hall of Fame
for sure. I think his comparable is more like Deva
or like, come on, man, what would kill us?
Speaker 3 (12:57):
He wasn't comparable to all Horford?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
You mean career? What are you talking career? A lot
of Defas was cold.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
We're talking skills set? Are we talking this career? Devas
is real card. I can't expect by Devaux Bla. Deva
gave my first job as a professional in his hometown.
He gave me a check personally when the team didn't
pay me. So I love him. I got that check
in my next to my drums.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Comparable for our Horford.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
You're talking about a defensive player that comparable like I
don't know, I'm saying in the Hall of Fame, like
lot of Devach, no, Tonny Coop, other is a champion,
was killer Pippy didn't want to go in.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
He made this shot. Are you you mad? Give me
the ball? The waiter bro, knock it off.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Compare him to the waiter man, I'm trying to think.
Compared him the cool coach who got a three peat
was out there heavy. That's the waiter bro. Come on,
I know.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
And Drew is a good comparable. I like that.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
You don't have nothing for Horford, so.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
But I just think Rondo Edge is man.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Rondo edges Drew. Yes, yes, no, no way. You don't
have the Olympics and it's and he And when Rondo
won it in the bubble, he was off the bench.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
He was a autistically dog.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
The things that in the championship runs he played with
the greatest players of all time.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
So it's true.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
No, he's not not in his career coming up, coming.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Up like that. Drew played with Prime.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
He's out here starting lineup. When he was out here
in the runs late Ron.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Was in his second year.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
You know that, right, you know that right when when
he won a chip, Yeah, second year of the league,
and he was and he wasn't the second he wasn't
in the death lineup.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yes, he was. No, it wasn't. Not in the last game,
but he was.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Juhwa days in the game. Whenever this game is on
the line, so was Rondo. You didn't watch the games.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I was. You ain't watching the games? Lord, I'm going
on with watching the game.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
You said that first year he wasn't in the death line.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
No, he was in every He was at the end,
at the end of the game, in all the games.
But the Dallas, Like, I don't know who's a better He's.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Not a better defender, no way, Rondo is a team defender.
He can't guard nobody. He's a cone. Jesus, this is crazy.
I can't believe the slender. That's a good coro. One
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of them is an Olympic level player.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
No one of them was. Fortunately, that's it.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
That's it right there, dog, he's Olympic level.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I don't really got to I don't really put a
lot of stock on Olympic gold.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
You just said it when he was talking.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
No, but I don't put a lot of stock on
it because if you're on the team, like he's.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Necessary for the team, because he's a flex player that
can do everything.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
They handpicked him for this team.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
A gold medal they handpicked. He's a different level defender.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Let's knock it off, Like I'm giving you the gold
medal before you even play this year, Like that's the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
No, we want on this team. They lost the thing.
They lost right, They called we need you, Holliday, Jude,
you just won.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Can you get here? When can you get here?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
They was like, it's like, no, j Howe is gonna
get here late.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
He's gonna show. He showed up. We had dropped one.
We out there with lilarded him out there.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
They couldn't figure it out. Milwaukee, We out there were
the liard ter. We dropped one. He come out there
and restore order. Come on, dog, knock it off. Jue
Holli is a different level dog. He's a different level
of everything. Stronger, he's tougher, he could do more. He's
at the dunker spot now away. I have seen one
players Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Did Drew. It was like he had no idea how
to play defense.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Butler is a tough matchup. I've never seen you don't
like that wasn't taking him match up?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Stop it. He was how you telling me? How you
telling me? Was he taking against the Lakers?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
What do you what.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
One team?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Who was he guardening that was killer? You said he
guarded Lebron. He didn't guard Lebron like that and crude
critical time stuff. He can play full court on Lebron.
We passed it up and we get over half court.
Now you was overseas I watched the game. Who is
he garden? I'm asking you he guarded and you got
him as a better who not? Everybody tell me who
he guarded?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
That was like matched up with whoever? Who did he
guard Dog?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
That mattered that he was like he took him out.
Holladay is making you minimum dog Derrek, He's minimizing people.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
He had to guard Derek Rose, He had to guard
Darren Williams when Darren was Chris Paul.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Like, we're talking about we're talking about the point guard slots.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, he got the guarded way. The years he was
first team has Drew Bay first team on.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
The Jewish argued jew was the best defender in the league.
They said by his peers was a better defender Drew Holiday.
Dog It's not even close. He can really guard Lebron.
He can really do it.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
He pope for the first Team six six first teams Rondo.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Rondo is the first team a huss He's a Scrabbery's
a unique athlete, big hands, long arms, freaking nature athlete.
Rondo is incredible. Now I'm I'm clowning though, But Rondo's incredible.
But Jew is something different. On defense, Rondo's incredible. Jew
is different, Doog. He's in his reign at thirty three
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years old. His body, his technique, his strength. You said
it's the best defensive back court.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
It's the combination of two guys.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah, because they both called as hell.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Well, if you say Rondo Tony Allen, I'm taking that
back court defensively, defensively.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Over any back court defensively.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
If we want to just talk about defensively Tony Allen
and Rondo, I'm taking that.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Over whoever such an anemic shooting back court. Im you
want to shoot? I want to say, defensive.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Who you taking that back court? Of this one? Defensively?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
No, this one is not enough to compensate for the offense.
You're not better if you are, because one of them
is blocking dunks.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Of yr who did he block? Lively? He blocked your
center dunk?
Speaker 3 (20:08):
What you mean avert?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
He blocking dunk.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
It was it was a drop of me. He didn't
get no running start. It was off a drop step man,
What do you mean when right up and blocked it?
Nobody's doing that and the guards pout of your center,
not even jumping. He went up off verse and got it.
This is this duo is a better duo. Let's knock
it off.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Oh we got some new jtz's Okay, Okay, I'm in it.
Look see I got blood on these right here when
I broke my finger. I gotta get some new boys. Ooh,
don't do them like that. Okay, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Baby. That's how you laced the ol G. That's how
you lace the ol G. That's what I'm talking about.
You probably we got what we got.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Oh, they gave me some labors this time.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Last time they sent me to it the same. That's what.
Oh my god? Oh the we need to get? Why
not got these? Uh? Then you got those? We need
to get why not in in some of these?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Thess lit just get me and something started?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Damn. Okay, That's what I'm talking about. Shoes Champ, Thank
you Champ, thank you Jordan Bryan.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I appreciate Lason the o g Oh yeah, theseus is
gonna get some good way out of these, baby, That's
what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
That's that's what I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Give me exclusively the ones appreciated chap That's what I'm
talking about.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Oh yeah, let's keep these right here.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
You got the Celtics raising Banner eighteen. They set up
they bringing everybody back.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
We're saying they bring they bringing everybody back.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Right, So what what is that gonna do next year?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Like?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
How strong do you think that each gets better? Do
you think with Greek freak or the selling just too
high above or what's what's gonna happen with that right there?
And your imagine that because each should be more competitive
next year? Why do you say that, Well, just more
guys being healthy and jailing. Maybe you don't give that.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I think the Celtics are set up for the next
five years to win at least two more championships.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
So you're banging on that duo that duo.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Tatum is twenty six twenty seven, Brown twenty six twenty seven,
per zingis I think I believe twenty eight be twenty nine.
Drew Holliday is up there, White is relatively young. As
long as you got your foundation, Peyton Pitcher's young. As
long as you got your pain, your core, which is
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Brown and Tatum and Derek White and then Drew, He'll
be you know, three to five years. The rest of
everybody else can be plug and play. Eventually you'll have
to figure out how to replace Horford, and I think
everything is right there.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Tillman can turn into a Horford type player.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
You don't turn into a Horford type player.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Though, well, I mean he could just like just like
how you have.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
No no, no, no no, But I'm talking about now Horford,
just like when the Bulls went from like Craig Hodges
to bj Armstrong to to to Steve Kerr to Pack
from Packson style of player can plug and play that
style that Horford playing now.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Not all star al, but Al is like a grinder,
you know.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
If he opened Man, that's tough like line.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Somebody that can do what our Horford is doing right now.
Maybe not everything, but a lot of things like just
knock down open threes and.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Be a strong defender. You don't need them to do much.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
You don't need that position to do much though, but
it's critical that they that they are dominant scoring, shoot,
I mean, spacing and rebounding in defense, if you can.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Find that guy space space at that position, whether it
be till mean he develops into that because he knocked
down to three.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Al saw himknocked down to three in the playoffs, So
I'm like, damn, I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
How could shoot that right?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
And then you got you know, other guys who we
can kind of fill in for the next five years.
I mean, I believe that our Harford can do what
he's doing right now three more years.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
So how about how about how was it with y'all?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
You want to chip ohay, oh nah?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I'm y'all go off to a killer star and we
was better look at like because you go from lizten.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
So when you win it, you already used.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
So you go from thinking you could probably win it,
and then when you win it and you know you
can win it, that's a different type of attitude. That's
a different type of swag. Now, so like the next
year after we want it, you go from maybe thinking
you can win it.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
And knowing you can win it. It's two different things.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
So coming back that next year, we felt like we
was I mean, I didn't know I didn't say we
felt like that we were better.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I think we started off.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
The season like twenty seven and two, well something around
there before KG went down.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
But I swear to you we were a better team
the next year.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I think too, because because.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, but we got better. So now you look at
the Celtics like.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
He got better, Like y'all was already at the level,
right and now he now he's an all star level
player the next year coming off that chip, Like, who
is going to take their game to other level? Because
that was gonna be required because you're gonna get everybody's best.
So who's gonna take that game to the level for
the Celtics? Are they there right now just cruising?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I think they set. I think they set. You know,
you don't need nobody to take that game necessary another level.
It's just understanding you can win now and know that
you can win. It's two different things.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
It's like because they're younger than y'all. Y'all was because
I think.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
They, like Jason and Jalen is entering their prime, right,
so we're being so what's being better for them is
everybody being more consistent, not in and night out. You
know what I'm saying, but just the trust growing too,
trust consistency, Derek White.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
If anybody's getting better, it's Derek White. Dan, He's still
getting better.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
But I feel like Tatum is evolving now though I'm
seeing it.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Brown won MVP, but eat.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Tatum evolving because I said this when they played in
the twenty twenty two finals, and it was a game
where Tatum had like ten assists and I looked, I
was looking like, damn. I know he averaged in like
twenty seven, twenty eight, but he had like twenty two
or twenty three and eleven assists, ten assists in that
game and ain't one golden state. And I just been
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saying to myself, like, damn, that's the best game I
seen him play all year. And then he came back
in twenty twenty three and average thirty, which was fine,
But if you look at these finals, when he declaimed
that consistent playmaker, that's when they were at their best.
Think about game five, he had eleven assists, they was
blowing them out. Same thing in game one. Playmaking, his playmaking,
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his playmaking is what's gonna help him evolve now. And
that's what I learned, because I learned that when I
got Kevin and Ray, I was like, all right, I
was always a natural scorer, and I didn't trust my
teammates because they wasn't that good anyway. But when I
got them, I was like trust today, not seriously though.
(27:45):
So I go from So when you look at my game,
my evolvement in my game, I understood when it was
a game I need to score, and I understood when
it was a game where I needed to be a
good playmaker. So if you look at our championship run,
in game four they needed me to score. I had
like thirty eight. I think I had like thirty eight
in game four. No, game five, it was game five,
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I had like thirty eight. Game six I had seventeen
points and ten assists. Because I was like this wasn't
that I had understanding the game where it needed me
to be a playmaker. Boom, So I'm gonna be aggressive
and find guy. Yeah the team is hitting, Yeah, I
have to find guys.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, like craw Damn.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I'm looking like damn, you know, And I think that's
the that's how the Celtics is going to evolve as
Tatum evolves into that. Because every game where he had
like high level, high number assists, they played their best.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
I thought that means they're making shots.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Ticket went down. Yeah, but we didn't bring everybody back.
We didn't bring back Posy Posy win it like five
million a year, and I think that really hurt us
now and now like us fast forward to today, like
records like we're bringing everybody back. Yeah, you just won
like that feeling huh, And I'm thinking, like damn, why
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we didn't do that in two thousand and nine. But
we was like twenty seven and two to start the season.
We was forty four and eleven when ticket went down,
and we still won sixty plus games. I think we
was like sixty two and eight, like sixty twenty Yeah,
(29:27):
sixty two. We won sixty two games that year. The
following year, so Ticket missed twenty seven games. Think about
those twenty seven games we won sixty two games. Think
about this ticket. Look, we won sixty two games and
(29:48):
Ticket missed twenty seven of them. Do the math, So
I have won seventy games.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Or Ticket played rus sixty seven.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
So in saying all that, the year after we won
the title, we was a better team. Do you think
the Celtics next year will be better. I mean, this
is one of the all time dominant teams. You think
they can be better next year.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I do, because they're young. I don't know if they
can be better from a wins and lost the standpoint
because we got to see how they manage the year.
Do they spend some time developing other players? Do they
rest a holiday and let Pritcher get more minutes in
certain games and just deal with that to have long
term effects. We don't know what they're gonna do statistic,
but we know when the rubber meets the roll. They
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have their formula. They're not changing nothing. They have defensive players,
they have offensive players. They have a style that they
have cultivated that is dominant. So we got to see
what's the plan to get everybody healthy because they have
been one of the more healthier teams. They've had some
injuries in the playoffs here and there, but when you
look at it, their stars, their guys, they've been more.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
House comes into play.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I'll tell you comes into play when you win it.
It's that next year when you play the other team
knows you.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
The champs, and there's a fear factor.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
There's a fear factor that wins you games, it's like
Damn least like Damn leads the champs, Like you know
what I'm saying. Like, seriously, there's a fear factor that
comes with winning, like being being that team and coming
into that arena and you're looking them in the eye
and they they don't want to look at you in
the eye, Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
But that's only gonna work versus Detroit and.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Well think about it, only half the teams make the
make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
So just taking care of your business with those teams.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Taking care of your business with those teams.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
So man, I'm telling you it's a fear factor that
come winn because I remember when I was on that
team and I played.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Was the biggest threat to the Celtics next year?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
What team do you feel like?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I don't think there's nobody in the East that can
beat the Celtics, Like I just don't healthy So.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Who can beat them? Because people keeps I keep hearing
this Denver stuff. I don't believe that.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I don't never got to make it out the West.
First of all, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I don't believe that because I just don't believe they're
gonna have their own issues. And they didn't do what
you said, Wig Wonder. They didn't resign their people they
had I mean, what what Bruce Brown did for for
for Denver? Is it similar and Jeff Green? So they
let them go. Now's what you're talking about with Posey
(32:29):
and that.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yeah, that val hurt. But if we had to have
Posy in twenty ten.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
But y'all wanted to, y'all lost, So yeah, you need
a Posy in twenty ten more experienced more shooting.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
And Eddie House, Yeah lost the shooting. We lost the shooting.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
So this year the NBA new rule is you can
negotiate with your own within your own team.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
In free agency before you hit the market. And so now.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Siakam has a four year deal on the table before
free agent actually starts with his team. So who do
you think is a significant free agent moving forward that
can maybe put a team over the top or.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Just can make.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
A significant impact by re signing with their own team.
To me, the one that stands out the most is
and now nobody, nobody for the Knicks, I believe they
have to sign him. You traded r J. Berry your
future away, you get this other guy. I think he
was a huge impact on their winning. He changed their defense,
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and you need a guy like him when you have
to play the Celtics, when you have to match up
against these athletic wings. But outside of that, maybe Paul
George significant I don't know. These guys are up in
a Lebron you know, he's forty. I'm not sure I
think did it.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
I think they did the best because they got their guy,
because they're a playoff team. They got a young point guard.
Siakam is still young. I think he's the best. They're
the best. They did the best job of getting their guy.
Don't let him hit the market because what you think.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Of Paul George though, do the Clippers need to resign him?
And and Klay Thompson.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
He's in a great position. The Clippers do need to
resign him. They gave up the kitchen sink for him,
But does he gave up No, they gave up like
seven first rounds. Okay, they gave up an MVP candidate
right now is the second and they got who what
what's the picks they got off that thing though, I
(34:47):
don't know, I don't remember. It's a lot. Yeah, six
first rounders, like so I mean they need to sign
him though, but without a healthy Kawhi. You know, Kawhi
sign Paul Georgia. You resigned him, sign and trade him.
He resigned him.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
You have to to the max.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah, okay, I mean you like, what is your other option?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah? Because that's about what about Harden and Westbrook? Do
you resign them.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
If you can't? I mean Westbrook's under contract? Did he
opt out?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
No? I did a two years? What did he have
to player? Is he a free agent? Westbrook? Then he
had a player option, he got a player option. Did
you opt out? I'm not sure he did. I'm trying
to think if I'm him, would you opt out?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
You get more money elsewhere?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Which he don't want to leave. I don't think he
does play some games. I don't think he's unless he
knows something he can go to Denver, No Yoka in
the over Reggie Jackson. No, because Reggie Jackson can shoot
the space and maybe he's so inconsistent for them. Yeah,
but it's just styles, like when you got a player
(36:03):
like Yo kids, you don't really want Westbrook unless you're
gonna have Westbrook run that second unit.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Run the second Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yeah, okay, well yeah, He's still valuable to this league.
I mean, no doubt about it. He's Westbrook, so Harden,
I mean, like you gotta run it back with them.
But I just feel like Indiana, because they're a playoff team.
You look at the rest of the landscape. How do
these other teams get better than all they players are signed?
So like Siakam is a guy that if he can
(36:31):
play at the level he played at in these playoffs
and you can get another piece over there, can they
put more pressure. They got swept by Boston, but they
beat the Knicks. Nicks was playing well.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
It's a copycat league, and so what you try to
do is when you see a championship team win, you
try to emulate that. So then you try to put
together team that either emulates that or can counter that.
So I just don't see it in Indiana. Maybe if
New York gets healthy, they have a shot. But in
(37:07):
the East, I just don't see it. Maybe Paul George
to a destination for Philadelphia, which I'm hearing that's that
could be a choice. Now Paul George ends up on Philly.
Do they do they pose a threat to the Celtics?
Speaker 2 (37:26):
You think? No, still know.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Well, my thing about the Paul George you're gonna get.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Today is Paul he can't play.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
He can play the third wheel, but he can't play
that dynamic two way that you're getting out of Brown
and take him with that energy right now. That's asking
too much of him at this stage of his career
to so he I know he can't do and I don't.
I think he can still score the ball. He's skilled,
he's gifted, he's but can he go out there and
play the defense that we saw from Jalen Brown against
(37:58):
a guy of Luca. Can he go match and pick
up full to have that energy to play that start.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Taking all time Paul George or t Mac, I don't know.
I was thinking about that. Who who's taking?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
That's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
You know you can't slight Paul George playoff performances. Uh, teammate.
I'm taking teammate just when he went there. He lost
that series, but wasn't deared him that everybody when he
came in for the series and he called Big Dog
a puppy and started dropping forty, he lost, But.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I missed that, Yeah, really talking, He ain't no more
like that. They don't have a puppy, the big dog, right,
he's a puppy. He's a puppy. And then came out
there and gave forty. He was out there deliver what
I'm saying. That ain't in the NBA. No going with
t Max. That ain't an NBA no more. Who's more
(38:59):
likely to do something like that? Patrick Beverley, No, he
can't get forty thoughs no what I'm saying. But he
gonna do something like that. Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Anthony Edwards, Uh, yeah, he's most likely to do that.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Nobody else.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Anthony Edwards got that swag.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
He got that type of swag, that kind of swagging
in the NBA no more. Though.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
He called out Kyrie and it was like he wasn't ready,
wasn't ready, that's all right? And he got that swag.
He got that type of like I'm the best in
the league. I want to see whoever. Like he came
at Kevin Durant like that was a pivotal thing that
he knew he had to do to win that series.
Were playing against legends. I got a de throne, the king.
(39:45):
He took that mindset into that series and that's that
put them on a great run.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Man, check it out.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
It's been an amazing year Celgics wanted. This is about
to be a green summer.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Check this out.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
I'm going to I'm going into the parade, so we're
gonna get that footage of me on the parade, just
enjoying it. Just so happy for the Celtics this year. Man,
I couldn't be happier. And to top it all off,
you know, just to kind of see last summer, you know,
being able to be in the gym with Tatum and Brown,
(40:19):
work out with them in the weight room, watch them
in the gym till like now, and then like to
see the fruits of their labor.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Dog.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
It's just like, damn, I saw the work that they
was kind of putting me in in the sacrifice. There
was sacrifices they was making, being in La being away
from their family, you know, and just doing what they
need to do to get to this right here.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
And now I'm gonna be able to enjoy the parade
with the fans.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
I was able to be, you know, my own parade,
and I know how it was, and I know it's
gonna be way better than it was when I When
I did it, everything everything gets better, So everything I'm
excited to do that.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
You're gonna have some footage, you know, on my face,
Tom you so.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
You know boom boom boom boom, Ben be lit my
red ar box of gard Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Oh man, I can't wait. But it's been a great season. Man.
We did it dog. Truth Blount is official, Me and
my god Jack Crow. Yo. Check out the behind the
scenes on my Instagram. I might go live, I might
go live some.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Make sure you can tune in Truth Lounge Championship Edition
Boston Celtics Batter eighteen
Speaker 2 (41:33):
That you have it
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