May 24, 2024 • 49 mins
It's Friday which means it's TRUTH LOUNGE day! Paul Pierce and Jason Crowe react to game 1 of the Western Conference Finals and discuss what adjustments each team needs to make. Plus, they debate who the biggest All-NBA snubs are, who is the best person to team up with Wemby, and talk Celtics vs. Pacers.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Flounop and Bobby Cute. The atmosphere's real.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
What's up, gang, Welcome to the Truth Lounge, your boy.
He pierced j Crow in the house. A lot to
talk about Man, Minnesota, Dallas for one ant Man tired,
Kyrie rejuvenated, Luca. Is he the best player in the
(00:29):
playoffs right now? So I'm gonna ask you now, because
I got Dallas winning.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
This series in six what's your view on it? Now?
What's your view on it?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Because you have Minnesota, you have to post a boy,
you have the face of the league. And now he tired.
He tired of doing too many pull ups. You know
what I'm saying, too many curls.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I mean he was chasing Kyrie. Look, he came out
and said he want to take that match up and
he got a dose of it. So you gotta make
his adjustment. He came out and took nine shots in
the first quarter. That's not that hasn't been in style
in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
He didn't see that coming because based on how how
Kyrie was trending, and.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Then he come out like that. He didn't. He wasn't.
It was just like a punch.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
And that was necessary. Kyrie kept him in the game,
and then Luca was able to have that fourth quarter
that he had. So it's very difficult to deal with
Dallas like that. The role players are playing at exceptional level.
But I'm not. I'm not turning my back on Minnesota
just yet. Minnesota still look good. Minnesota looked very good.
Nas Reed, Can he play at that level? Are greater
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for the rest of the series. How do you use him?
What minutes does he play? Does his minutes go up?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Solid? He was solid?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
No, But does his minutes go up because he's looking like.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
A He looked like a game changer.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
That's what I'm saying. Because him. You know, if I was.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
In Minnesota, I'll start.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Dude, Well, McDaniels continue to his twenty point streak, I
think for Minnesota. For me, the most disheartening thing is
that we lost. When McDaniels gave us twenty again. That
was his third straight twenty point game. They was rolling
like that, him putting that piece to the puzzle together
X factor, Yes, because he had that. He hadn't scored
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twenty in back to back games all season, and he
put three games in a row. Now, how long you
expect him to keep that hot streak up.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, So I'm just trying to figure out, like and
Man's gonna play better. I mean, I think he's too
good not to play better. But what answer do they have?
What do you do with Kyrie? And what do you
do with Luca? Because ant gotta guard one of them?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Know what do you do with Conley? I'ma ask you
what do you do with Conley?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
This my adjustment.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Look, so my adjustment would be I'm starting os Reed
for the simple fact.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
That over the defensive play of the year.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, I just think it's about matchups right now. I
think I need I need his physicality. I like his physicality,
and I like the way he could stretch the defense,
you know what I'm saying. So and Man did really
had no driving lanes. If you put nas Read out there,
who's one of the top three point shooters in the league,
it opens up some lanes because I feel like when
you got go Bear out there, it close it up
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to where you can kind of help. The only threat
he is is a live threat. He not a post threat.
You know, he could be a live thread. You know,
he can finish underneath if you get in there wide open.
But I just think with naj Red, you get a
more spread floor because I need a man going downhill.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
That's what.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
But I think, look, he was tired, but look I
watched ad Man do something huge. I watched him take
a deep breath, the same thing you do as a player, right,
you take a deep breath in that fourth quarter, you
gather yourself, you rest, and then you come off that
pick and hit that big three. But what I did
see him do is go to the corner on a
critical possession when they had like a two point lead,
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and say, can y'all get us a point? Let me
rest his possession. Yeah, he went to the corner late and.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Was like this was my observation.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, I saw that he's got tired, he said it,
But I think the reason he got tired, Yeah, he
had to chase around Kyrie, he had to guard Luca.
And this is why I think NAS read is so
critical because now if you put nas reading those picking rolls,
you can switch you know what I'm saying now, and
(04:18):
he fighting through picking rolls all night. Just think about it.
You every time down and I have to deal with
this when I guarded like the top players, I'm picking
roll all night like nobody like when I was guarding Lebron.
It's a pick and roll every time down. You gonna
feel that after the game. And I think you know
when you.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Constantly boom fighting over boom, fighting over, fighting over that
wear you down. So now the nas read effect, you
ain't gotta fight over that. You ain't gotta have Rudy
Gobert back. You can say we'll switch that.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Well, one adjudstment too, that you're saying that that makes
us of sense to me? Is we got for me?
I like to start Alexander, let him get on Kyrie
early since we switching it, and let it let it
so he's taking out the line I'm taking now Conley
and Conley, Yeah, because I think he can stretch the
floor and shoot with the size better.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
But also the problem is not pick and roll defense.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
But that's what I'm saying. You put Jeanie because now
I'm letting Edwards guard in the fourth quarter. In the
third quarter, we're gonna measure him, let him come second half,
Let McDaniels take Luca early, let him go ahead and
use his lift on him, whatever he could do. But
let's leave Edwards free of that responsibility in the first half.
It didn't work. Kyrie got twenty four. Anyway. Yeah, now Edwards,
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you're gonna tighten up in the second half. You're gonna
have a better defensive rhythm in the second half, you're
gonna have coming out like that. Let's let you not
have to exert that energy on both ends. Garden and
piss like you just said, that's my adjustment to getting
him off Kyrie, getting him off Luca in the first half.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, I mean, that's one of them. But they still
have problems in that pick and roll.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, I'm going with the Knas thing too. I mean, look,
you can't be emotional. You defensive perio of the year,
so he can't play picking and roll defense defensive forty
the year.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well, when you got Luke and Kyrie coming off, they
played drop coverage. It's either you starting os read or
you change that coverage. Because a couple of times I've
seen when Gobert came up and it wasn't in the
drop coverage, they kind of trapped him. They threw it
to Lively in the middle, he turned it over and
they got the ball to Luca's hands. So it's blitzing, blitzing.
(06:20):
That's it's gotta be one of those two adjustments. If
they don't do that, they're starting reading and go to
the switch.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I don't think Luca. Luca is a player. To me,
you can't give him a healthy dose of anything like
nothing works against it.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
He'll figure it out.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, yeah, you can't to say this is the plan.
The plan is just it's a chess match. The match
ups dictated. The best thing you can try to do
is switch and give help. You know what I'm saying,
because that's bringing what Luca's not doing well that I
think he's not doing. He's not strong driving, getting that
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drop jumpste power through file right now, it seems like it's.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Just where he throwing a live. You're doing the step back.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Let's do that. Let's do the switch. Let's switch with
Gobert because I didn't see him even go beart. Remember
the end of the quarter, I think it was second
or third quarter.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
He drove.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
He couldn't he threw a turnover because he couldn't go through,
go bear with the body for the finishes, like he
don't have that elevation right now, but he still got
his floor game and his mental right right.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
We'll see who you got in game two Minnesota. You
think Minnesota. I mean it's a do or die game.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, it's not a doer die game.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
It is a do die game. No, yeah it is.
You so you think it's a new day. If they
lose this game, this series over.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
It's not. Let's go win to and gonna go.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Into Dallas and get two games. They did it inn
that they did it in Denver, but you got to
you got two scores.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
He said, they did it in Denver, but they came because.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
You got two two ultimate scores out there that can
over here. They shut Murray, he ain't Kyrie Homie.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Well, we'll see, but the fourth quarter would be different
if Kyrie got to do is miss a couple of.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Shots major scores like that.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
You got a lot of his points in the loose
game in the half court. If Kyrie missed a couple
of shots, it normalizes things. They're gonna they can do
whatever they need to do. This series is going to
go long. Look, I wouldn't be surprised. I said before
the playoffs start, this is going to be one of
the most intriguing playoffs in a long time. I kept
saying that.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
It's over, It's not over. Dog, it's over.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
It's not like that no more. With these guys, it's not.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
It's a different animal. Dog twist.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
He can see one twist ankle away from being down.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
He can close though, he understands.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
He twists his ankle or something.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
That's what you're relying on. I don't know you relying
on a twisted ankle.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
No, I'm just saying anything can happens to get it.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
But if they lose Game two in Minnesota, it's over.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Not over the NBA right now, it's the new NBA.
It's different.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
So you still got Minnesota winning the series.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
These guys was up twenty points at home.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
And loss, So Minnesota's gonna win. And how many seven?
That was weak? That was week you said that. Yeah,
you wasn't strong.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
That went my voice that if you want to lower
your backs, its winning in six or less.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Dallas is winning on six or less.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Okay, there are one nothing he wanted to get loud.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Last had Dallas. I had Dallas, but.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Not like that, not with all of this.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Now you yeah, I forget. It was on the road.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah, six, all right?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
You feeling yeah? All right, We'll say you had a
film session. Coach let him have it.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
My thing about Littlego is still you still can all
work him on the defensive side. He made critical stops
in the fourth quarter. Give credit he made he made
a defensive stance on Conley slide and he got a
nice man still on the lib. But he's still giving
up rebound gives on the backside.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
He's given out that effort on deep.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
He's smart, He's not giving out effort. He's intelligent, he's skilled.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
And the way he's slid with colle they scored on position,
but he.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
One possession effort is what of Minnesota exhausted themselves?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Still late?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
He's smart, that's not he's a smart effort.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
You have to really back up and understand the awareness
and jump high enough to get like that's the highest
I've seeing him jump. All serious.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
It's perfect time and he's smarter than everybody.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
See the best guard in the in the UH in
the league. He's been that way for a while. He's
been the best guard in the league.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
What is the average?
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I get it, okay, well is who the second best
guard in the league.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
The second best guard man he's been the best guard Lucal.
Let's get that clear. He went to the conference finals
two years because so now we can look and his
body of work looks different.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
He's the best point, he's the best guard. We're just
gonna say guard, so over.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Curry over every single guy he's second.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Who's second?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Man, These guys are scrapping, scrapping right now. A lot
of people scrapping for that second seat and Luca second
in the m v P race. Let's not get that twisted,
all right. Everybody else is scrapping, and everybody else has
a case for numbers.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Who's the second best guard in the league?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
And man, we gotta just sit and man hold on, Kyrie.
Can you keep pissing him off and keep saying that's
what you keep trying to do. Huh, you keep trying
to piss Kyrie off and get your prediction right because you.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Keep I'm not pissing, I'm rolling with them.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
That's what I'm saying. Kyrie is like this, and man,
so like if I'm Kyrie.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
About baby Jordans and facing the league, where is man
fitting all of this?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Man, it's we're going to see. Let it play.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Let's see what today based.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
On today, you gotta put an amp man there.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
But I'm number two Uh, yeah, he's a lot over Shay.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
He's alive, dude.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Just over Curry? Yeah what cur over Bronson? Steph Curry.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Steph Curry is not in these talks.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
He's not in the best guard conversation all the time.
I'm not right now, No, not right now. He's in
an all time thing. He's not. That's not That's not
a knock.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yeah, that's not a knock. He's not playing these guys
is he didn't make them play?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
What it be safe to say? So?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Right now we got two first team All nbas in
the conference finals.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Where does Halliburton fitting all this? He's in the conference finals.
Nobody had Indiana getting to the conference Yeah, they have
to deal. They dealt.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
William Burdon's tricky, right, He's so tricky, like down and
out and he like he couldn't like he like he
has some holes, Like does he have a medium game?
He's just winning, man. He's playing with spunk and with
his ass and he's just a winner.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
You got Halliburton or Shay Hallan Burdon.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
He went to Madison Square Garden and pulled a Reggie Junior.
What you mean, Shaye is nice? If we have a
skill contest. Halling Burton went to went to Madison Square
Garden game seven that on his resume. He gonna tell
his kids about that for it and cut to tape.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Oh my god, we are disrespectful here.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
We're not, dude, This dude is hurt and he's he
gotta he gotta get himself back together. Man, he got
the Lakers got him out of there. He's look, we
love John Moren. Is the is the is the people.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Speaking of speaking of the guards Haller Burdon, and what
is Brunson fitting all this.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Cold? So you got Halliburton over Brunson. I don't he
just beat him?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
No, not him. It took a unity, it took all
that he was.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
He was inspiring all ith. But by the way, wait,
didn't we have some push ups on that series?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
We did?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Man? I mean, can I get three at least just
to show that your man? Give me?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I had twenty push up We had twenty. Give me
like five, you give me like five right now? I
got them on site, right right right right here, get me.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
On site push ups? I like that. Honor his back.
There we go there. This was weak. Go down, dog man. Okay, okay, okay,
damn you look at least struggling with this. That is
a struggle. How many is that?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Dog?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
You struggling?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Man?
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Come on, I don't hurt your back. Damn a dumb
you knocked them out?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
All right?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
You don't be them push ups because we bet on
the Indiana vers New York series push ups on the site.
You want to put some push ups on this, next
on this Dallas, this Dallas.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Minnesota got to push up. Get Dallas Minnesota push ups
on that.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I'm ready for this.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
That Minnesota, that was Minnesota, Minnesota put some push up
so that series, Uh, let's do it dump all right,
we got a damn push ups? Shall hear this from
the truth? Last twenty push ups Dallas versus going.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Then now you're gonna have me.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
You're gonna get right, You're gonna be right for the something.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Because now I gotta go with the hand dog, I
gotta go with these Minnesota. Then that's what I'm going with.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
All right.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Now what you saying, really what Dallas is killer?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Now you're not going with yeah, no change.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Now I'm going with the winners this one. How about
I give this, let's revisit this. Look, you gotta get down.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
More tired than that man. Right now, Look at bring
man fifty years old. He more turned than that man right.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
There, quick, dog, I gotta make it.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Get This man's a water man, see right.
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just shift gears a little bit here away from the playoffs.
I want to give some light to what's going on
in San Antonio because Win mien Yama, first Team All
Defense runner up to Defensive Player of the Year. I
had them as Defensive Player of the Year, you know,
before the season even started, because I saw that type
of potential. Now, if you're one of these veterans right
(17:55):
now who are free agent, would you be looking at
a team up with him? You know, somebody that's like, man,
I see the next five years this dude can he
changes the game?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Like, is there a player out there right now that
you can put with him and say, if they get him,
and it's got to be realistic, they could be a
contender as soon as next year or the year after.
Because when I think about it, I'm gonna tell you
my opinion. I think if you added Donovan Mitchell over there,
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that's gonna shake up the West a little bit, just
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I ain't saying they contenders, but it's gonna be a
problem with this dude's learning curve that he's already exceeding
and blowing experts. I don't even know if he's exceeded
or blowing expectations out the window. But he's giving us
everything we expected.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
He has the love for the game. He has the
understanding of history, but he has the knowledge itself. He
knows who he is.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
So who could you put with him?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Because I just feel like Donovan Mitchell would be great,
don't I don't know, like you said, if that makes
him content. I like their team, I think they would
still be I think they still missing when I when
I look at them, I'm looking at who's going to
be Can.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
You put Donovan Mitchell with them? Their top four seed
in the West.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I don't know if donovand Mitchell is the guy to
be the I think he can be the guy in
the stat sheet, But who's going to be the guy
in the locker room that gets them through. I'm not
knocking Doan saying he's not that guy.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I'm not He's always been that guy in the locker
room who but think about this. You always when you've
looked at all a.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Sudden that though they have mature guys, though that they
had a certain type of culture that's not existing right now.
When you had Genobili, you had you had Genobili, you
had Parker, right, those were guys that was in locker rooms.
They were pros at seventeen eighteen. They didn't go to
high school and play high school basketball. They came with
another type of energy into your locker room, being that
(19:51):
they was already veteran countrymen pros. Now they don't have it.
They got a lot of young talent. So who is
going to be the guy?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Donovan Mitchell's the guy he goes over there. He's made
the playoffs every year of his career.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
But is that his energy? Is that his thing?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I feel like I feel like it is. I feel
like he got a voice out here.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I feel like they're missing somebody else who's already like
kind of like, have.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
You team up Donovan Mitchell. That's gonna give you because
next year gonna be.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
An All Star.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Something on you right now that I think, if I'm Lebron,
just take you and Broanny go over there, go over there.
Letbron Letbron orchestrate the i Q. I'm not sure upgrade.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I think Bron kind of stunt his growth little No.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
He got to go to and be the point forward
and then pull him over the top of that young team.
You think you know, let me ask.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
You, do you think Winby can carry an offense?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah? I think he can. I think Bron can give
him that the filling the holes for you, like when
he's having like, Okay, let me get just through these spots.
Because when we're gonna have some phenomenal moments, right, he's
still growing, when we're gonna be unstopped for a stretch
like oh he got it going. Get him. Now, you're
gonna look and see they pushing him too far out.
We're not able to execute this, right.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
He's always gonna need that perimeter player that could create
though that shot and get a shot for others.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
What I'm thinking Bron can do now he want to
play like that, right.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
But that's gonna be a short window if you get him.
If you no, I think if you that window is
gonna be open for the next seven years.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Like Mitchell, I think it's I think he's not enough,
Like because you're not.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Saying it's enough to win it.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
But I think it's a top four seed in the West,
and I think you may be one piece away. And
they don't got to be an All Star because you're
gonna you got two All Stars because win't be gonna
be an All Star next year.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
He gonna be.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Defensive Player of the Year next year. He's gonna be
an All Star next year. Like, add Mitchell to that mix,
it's gonna be a problem because Lakers is fading, Golden
State is face getting older, Phoenix is getting older.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You know these are playing teams now.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
You're still gonna have the Denvers, the Minnesota's, the OKCS,
Memphis is coming, Houston is coming. And this is the transition.
This is the transition. But where be he different? If
you get Donovan Mitchell in there?
Speaker 3 (22:18):
See, he needs somebody like Luca to me, He needs
somebody to another.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Like in Dallas. I can't forget them because now what.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I'm saying to me women Yonna needs Donovan Mitchell to
me doesn't get him going because he's not the primary
ball headler. He's not a second day.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I like Donovan Mitchell as a primary Bauhara.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Not with Wimby. I don't know if he should like
I don't know if he has the rhythm of my turn,
your turn. Being a natural guard that's played the my turn,
you turn game, your turn game like a Luca, he
understands that. That's why him and Kylerie's relationship has grown
and evolved, because he's figured out how to help cut
like your turn, That's what a real point guard that
can score understands the my turn, your turn. And I
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don't think Mitchell he didn't coexist well with Garland. I
think there needs.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
To be I think it's a different.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I think it's a different, but I think that this
is me. I think they're Yeah, but you just said
they weren't contender, So I'm looking at a bigger picture
these guys. Papavich is getting older. This is coming down.
How many long we want him out here standing on
the sidelines. We want to get him some with somebody
who can orchestrate an offense. Donovan Mitchell can execute. You
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want somebody to go out there and devour dudes and
be a matchup problem and play hard and be electrifying
and add to that, Yes, but how do you get
wym Biyanna off, how do you have a guy that
understands him and what he needs to be the main guy.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I think you'll understand that when you play.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
With the lord general.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I think if you're a special talent and you're one
of the guys in the league, like Donovan Mitchell, you
you have an understanding of greatness and I think his
IQ will tell him I need to do this.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I'm saying. Listen, came to the team, I knew I
didn't have to score twenty five. I was like, shoot,
I gotta play with dude. I gotta play with Ray.
I got to play with the ticket.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
That I navigated like it's his term. Okay, I navigated.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
It might be a night where I get like seven
shots because because I navigated that.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
But guys, what I'm saying, I think Donovan.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I think I think but Ron was like second year
Rondo though.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, but he still was the guy that understood. He
still had the confidence and.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
He wasn't to get between stretch in our big games.
It was like we had to navigate that season.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I don't definite what I'm saying. I don't think season
like you guys are at that stage. I look at
Donovan being this is not even not like being more
of a ray.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Right, He's more than a ray, you.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Know, I mean from a talent perspective. I'm just talking
about from a like now put him with somebody else
where you can just unleash him.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I like, just playmaker and yeah, he's more skilled.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Saying I'm saying the role in the mentalities say that's
why I said I'm not comparing these games. I'm saying
they like you and KG. People don't understand you had seasoning.
You play point in high school, senior year, you play
in a team structure with Kansas. You had the understanding
of this type of stuff that people don't haven't been through.
So now you're a vet thirty in your career at
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this point. Now they're coming to your thing. You're comfortable. KG.
You know he's unselfish, he's trying to win. Yeah, so
this is a whole different dynamic. I think with Mitchell
you need to turn him and say, you get I
don't need you waiting up for win beyonda you go
go let me do the Somebody else bring the balance
between these two. Somebody else on the floor that says,
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hold on, d let Let's get Winby, like get let
d know so you can keep him.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
The pieces over there, you know what I'm.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Saying, They get that somebody who can they.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Can keep some of that young town win the.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Game, because that's what we lack. Like when they talk
about the point guard position, that's but he's a talent.
He controls the game. I think he's a piece.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I mean that's the same thing you saying with Rondo
was in the second year.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
No, but he controls the game. He understands. This is
what I'm saying. The point guard is still valuable because
this guy understands the flow. It's not about Okay, we
can take the point. We got other playmakers. That's what
they tried in Phoenix. Somebody has to understand the timing
and the pace and what we need and have that
concern when you're just a natural score you want.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
To gmploy minute you add Donovan Mitchell to San Antonio,
did you bring black or you bring in like Jordan Clarkston.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I'm like, where's our general? We got Jordan Clarkson not
passing the Winby on a good shot like I was open.
I work on this and we're gonna start having all
these dynamics. No, I want to That's what I'm saying.
It's harder when you got Winby. He's because he's not
a prime like people like Winby and a d they're
different than like a Giannis, you know what I'm saying,
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Like they don't they don't facility. They can make a
play dribbling here and there, but they're not ball handlers
that are going to initiate create their own shot. They
need to be giving the ball in a position to execute.
So they need to play with people and guys. And
if you make you reduced Downovan Mitchell to now trying
to get spend his whole season trying to help win Beyonna.
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You took away his Giller's and.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I feel like something gonna happen. Something's going on in Cleveland.
Donovan Mitchell is there. They fired the coach, so you
know it's good. I like talking about these types of
about these scenarios.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I would mind seeing a Paul George over there with him.
I wouldn't mind seeing a Paul George with him on
a wine light. Like Paul George got that spirit he
wanted to get over the top. I think he's still
motivated and his leadership to that locker room. I just
prove invaluable with them young boys like Paul George.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
They contender.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
I think they's in another piece.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
So they're steal a piece away.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah, they sent me the piece away.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
They add Lebron and bronni contender.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Lebron changes things. I'm just telling you.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I'm saying they contender. Yeah, they contender. They add forty
year old Lebron and Bron.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, Cabron know the game. He gonna use all these pieces.
There's advantage. You give him a win, Biana right now,
with that energy to play that defense like that, with
all these young bulls that he can see in the
blueprint from Minnesota, how they got these young boys playing height,
playing full playing all this so he understands when he
gets to the playoffs, he gonna turn the juice of Lebron.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Ad what's the difference.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yeah, but the energy of the other guys defensively because
they the Lakers was.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
You got a more seasoned guy who's won a championship,
got two.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Way players that shoot him.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
How does Lebron make them a contender? And Paul George
and Donovan.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Don't Paul George and Donovan due.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
No, I'm saying, like if you I'm just trying to
get to understand.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
This, Oh, because style of play right and leadership. Because
what I'm saying with the Lakers right, your lineups was
you had to go offensive or defensive. So you had
to either put in your two guys in Reeves and
d Low or you had to go non offensive and
then you clog the space and for Ad with no shooting.
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So what you had to do Now with these guys
in San Antonio, they can space and shoot the Kelton Johnson's,
the Vacilles. Those guys become more valuable now when you
add Lebron, right, because now they're gonna turn up and
play two way basketball. Now you got a defensive Player
of the Year candidate with you. Now you get Lebron's
getting them off and he's deciding.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I mean, Ad is a defensive player to your candidate too.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yeah. But I'm saying, but with the roster around them,
and when Beyonna is another thing. Bro, Like you know
what I'm saying, I'm not knocking a d Lebron is good.
It's that's why they're not trying to break them up.
It's like, how do you find San Antonio. If you
can put a D and Lebron on San Antonio with
their young talent, are you gonna say, all right, a
D Lebron with just yeah, just Baselle Johnson, because now
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that's what they're looking for. They're trying to find him
guys who can play two way basketball. You know a
lot of these guys. Lakers got a defensive team and
an offensive team.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
All right, So look, let's talk about the All NBA
teams because when I look at it top the bottom,
to me, there were some snubs. Now I look at
the first team All NBA, Joannis Luca, Shaye, Joker Tatum.
I don't think nobody got snapped out the first team.
I think that's that's been my first team since the
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season ended. I'm sticking with that. I don't really see nothing.
Now on the second team, you got Jayalen Brunson, Anthony Davis,
Kevin Durant, ant Man and Kile and Kawhi. Now is
there anybody that you would put on the second team
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that you would take off on this squad?
Speaker 3 (30:56):
I mean, we don't like the way Kawhi got He
wasn't healthy defense.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I mean he played enough games sixty the criteria.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I don't. I don't have a I don't know nobody
take off. I don't have I can't say i'll take
anybody off.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I'm taking Anthony Davis off. I'm taking Anthony Davis.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Off, right. He's not putting them at a center now.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
No, it's positionless. I'm taking Anthony Davis off because I
just don't like having a playing guy two playing guys
in the second team, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
And wait, was Phoenix was a player?
Speaker 3 (31:31):
No?
Speaker 2 (31:32):
No, they wasn't a playing right, Okay, so we got
one playing guy. I like Jalen Brown on the second
team because I mean, you got a sixty four win
team and he was left off completely first, second, third.
You gotta have two guys on the sixty four win
team and y'all won by a large margin. Like I
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just you know, and this has nothing to do with
the numbers. A D numbers speak volumes. I would have
had him on the third team, though with Lebron, I
can't put two Lakers on all NBA, right, you know
what I'm saying. And I guess it's a toss up
on who you leave off out of Lebron and a D.
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Maybe you gotta go with Lebron and leave a d off. Now,
when I look at it, on the third team, you
got Booker, Curry, Halliburton, Lebron, and Sabonis. Now, when I
look at these teams, you didn't have no Mitchell. He
didn't meet the criteria, he didn't play enough games. But
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the people who did meet the criteria, guys like Jaylen Brown,
I would have put him on second team.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Uh who else am I thinking? Right now? You've got
Polo in Orlando. I think I would have to give
me one. I'm gonna put Polo Overbonas. Simona's had a
record breaking gear, but I think I gotta put Paolo
in there. You're taking Polo over Sabonis?
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yes, all right?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
So now what about Now? What about Kyrie?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
I think Kyrie is just right up under it.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Maxi? You got MAXI? Yeah, I got Kyrie and Maxi
on the fourteen, Kyrie and Maxie on the Fortune. You
ain't taking none of them off. So what about when
Ben Yama? You don't got when Byama on none of this?
Speaker 3 (33:34):
It's tough.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
It's tough.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
It's tough, Like I can't just go taking these guys off.
There cosation only guy only. I'm not gonna knock the
Jayleen Brown thing. I got no problem with that, what
you're saying. I think that sounds good.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I think legitimately, but I can't taking off.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
I'm taking off. I'm adding Jaylen Brown out of everybody
all who's left?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
MAXI? Jaylen Brown? Winbin Yama?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Uh, you know, I think Jaylen Brown deserved it for
being on the You can't tell me you don't have
two players on the sixty four win team. You got
two players on the Lakers, But you got two players
on the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Lakers run the league like I don't, that's what happens.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
And you got two players from Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yeah, that's just like you gotta feel a certain kind
of way.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
You gotta feel a certain kind of way. You gotta
feel a certain kind of two players on Phoenix, Dog,
what's going on down there? Who's voting on this? That's
media members? Media members.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Man, that's a problem when you look at it like that,
you look at it like, yeah, so I got Jayleen
Brown as a snub, and I got Polo as a
snub as well. So take off one of those guys,
do what you will. I don't got a booker on
my on my team. So I'm gonna go ahead and
put Brown instead of Booker on thirteen. Yeah, and I'm
gonna take Laker, flip a coin who you're taking off?
(34:49):
I gotta take off a Laker and put but.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I gotta take off a D. I give Lebron the
edge over a d.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Okay with something because we can't have Like you said,
I can't have two Lakers. But the soun not a plan,
we said.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
But I just still but I can't have two sons either.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
But I got Brown over over him, Yeah, over Booker?
All right, So so we take got Booker on fifteen.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Were taken off a D and Booker and Addon Polo.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
And Brown Adan Booker on fifteen fifteen. Damn damn Gria, Maxy,
Damn Kyria Maxie in my guards.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Let me ask you something like, Man, I've been like
fighting for my boy lately, and Tatum is getting a
lot of criticism for his play and I'm trying to
figure out how is that. I mean, like Game one,
they like he didn't touch the ball, he didn't score
for a twelve minute stretch, and he ended up with
(35:47):
like thirty thirty plus points ten plus, So why why
is there? Why do you think there's this criticism of
Jason Tatum because when I see guys like, yeah, man,
and I know he's only twenty two, but we over
here annoying him as the face of the league, Babie Jordan,
and he goes out to how this performance six and
twenty four. In game seven they win, I don't hear nothing.
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Then he goes in game one, six to sixteen, they lose,
and I'm not hearing the same type of criticism. You
know that I hear on the level of Jason Taylan that.
But then there's other players too.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
No but them two. That's two different things. I can
tell you. First of all, the criticism that Titum is
because everybody's trying to tell him how to close the
You know how when you're doing something, you're trying to
fix the lock. Now everybody trying to tell you do
it this way. Everybody's trying to tell Taitum how to
close the show because he haven't proved he can do
it right. He's right there, he's a great one, and
everybody's just being critical of everybody at the top. You
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know how that go?
Speaker 1 (36:45):
He earned the same time.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
But I'm gonna tell you because but they ain't been
to the they ain't been living in the finals in
the Eastern Conference finals like him, and he haven't closed
the lock on the chip and this and that and
the other. So everybody's trying to tell him how to
do it. He needed it do his thing. But the
difference between him and ant Man is that Tatum has
his demeanor. He's chill man, he's a solid assassin, and
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man is the people's champ.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
I don't hear this about Luca.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
He has good, big criticism Luca. Can't he even win
with his style? Lucas nobody. Luca is the most criticized.
Yes he is. Can he even win like this? Is
he a hardened? Is he the way? Can you? It's
been proving this style can't win this that, And they
don't talk about Tatum in that fashion. That's the ultimately.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
In a win.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Yeah, because they're looking ahead, they're looking He's being measured
by the finals and this is great for him. This
is what you want. Yeah, if you really like this,
he's reached the big dog status. But in terms of
what Edwards, because Edwards gives you a different visual Edwards
gives you that that look of desperation, for this chip, right,
(37:56):
he gives you that. That's why I saw in the
fuity you gave him a minus on the sixth twenty
four games, right, because you know he's giving you all
this other stuff and energy that you want. And this
is the same thing people want from Tatum. But that's
not his personality. He's is and that's why. But I
think Tatum just got it.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
I'm gonna be honest when I really think about big
picture wise, why you get the criticisms because Celtics have
been in the picture for a championship for quite some.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Time now and they haven't gotten over the hump. You know,
every year they've been in contention, they've been to the
conference finals. Expectations every year. You know, we didn't have
these expectations. Luca hasn't had no expectations yet. Nobody said
Dallas should win it and man ain't. Nobody said nothing.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
About the expectations for him until now, Like right now,
they're like, oh, Minnesota could probably win it now, and
they didn't say that until after they beat Denver. So
maybe it's warranted for the simple fact that he's been
to the conference finals six times, been to the finals.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Everybody got a pinion on it now.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
And you know, I think sometimes it's unfair, but sometimes
it's warranted because of the expectations you get here in
the year. I thought there was probably the favorite versus
Golden State when they won Game two and go to State.
He probably was the favorite before that series. And so
but I just think he comes with it. I think
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he comes with it. I just couldn't believe the unfair
criticism he got when they won. They won the game
in game one.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
You see, I don't look at the criticism. I look
at what your peers are saying. Like in terms of
the guys, like who's saying something? Is it just the
media or is it guys like that played. Those guys
are trying to help him win the show. They're looking
they're looking like you said, he's been to the fuse.
They're looking like they're trying to project.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
In order to quiet that.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
We're just gonna he just got to just gonna have
to quiet everything up and win it like that, and
then it's gonna quiet.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
He's doing this thing. He's doing this thing. He's focused
on what his task is. Yeah, and you know, let's
see how he goes about his business. He's been having
a great run in this playoffs. I mean, look, they lost,
they dropped the game. Everybody want perfection.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Where you rank him right now as best player in
the League's.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Where do you come into All Star voting?
Speaker 1 (40:20):
I don't remember All Star voting?
Speaker 3 (40:22):
MVP, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Where you had Joker? You had Luca, Yeah, he was
six or seven.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
I don't got him there. I got him hired than that.
He shouldn't be there.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
But he where you got him as far as rank
as player in the league, you got him over Anthony
Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
I think he's the best at his position right now.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I said that you got him over Anthony Edwards as
a player right now, my love, He's just my kind
of guy. Man, So you like Edwards overtatum right now?
Speaker 3 (40:58):
This personal me, dude.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
All right, that's your opinion, that's what it is, alright.
So where you rank him in the league right now?
Who's number one?
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Joker? Jokers probably Jokers the best player Joker? Yeah, okay,
Now who you got after that?
Speaker 3 (41:14):
I got the same that the MVP bow this guy.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
All right? Who you got third?
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Well, actually I got Anthony over over right now, that's
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Who you got third, Anthony over Janni's.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Janni's is not health man, Listen.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
I don't be a prisoner moment. Right now?
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Who is the right now? You just said right now?
Speaker 1 (41:34):
All right?
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Who the guy? Do we even know if he's gonna
be able to walk? Aus he can he run? Don't
he's not healthy? I don't do that.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
You ranked him and you have to just these is
the best player if these are the best players in
the league right now, and he's the best player in
the league.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
No, he's after all that we said to him, so joker, yes, Luca, Yes,
Anthony Edwards, it's.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
The third best player in the league. Over and b.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Again.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
I think you're forgetting em. I think you forgetting.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Anthony Edwards right now. You just asked me. I thought
I got my information. I'm watching these playoffs. I'm watching
I'm seeing what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
This is so Edwards?
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Then who's he's in the finals? The Western Conference finals, in.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
The in the Eastern Commons finals. So where where he where?
Speaker 3 (42:35):
He's right up under this guy? I got fourth? He's fourth?
Speaker 1 (42:39):
All right? Who you got fifth?
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Alexander? Just no, indeed, nope.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
You got Brunton over Shay. Yes, you haven't said Jannie
and bid. You haven't say. You haven't said uh. But
then you said, HOLLI Burdon. You said how burd was
over Brunson.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
I did not.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
You didn't say that.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
No. I said he had a great series game.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
He's still playing and he beat him.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
No, he I said, Remember, I said he had a
tag team.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Who's going right now?
Speaker 3 (43:12):
No, he wasn't going right now. He had a tag team.
It took two point guards to be Brunton. You have
TJ McConnell out there helping him out. He had flavored
Flay back there with Chuck d come out there by
myself with the mic.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
He got this, dude.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
No, TJ McConnell's playing point guard, creating plays everybody. Those
guys are balling because of me. I'm Brunson, so that
he Those guys played well because of him and attention
he brought. T J McConnell was playing well because of
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what TJ mccon What will you we keep going? If
you want to stay here and you.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Keep doing you got going now because you put a
man three because what he got haven't got the.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
High a burden number yet. If you want to keep
doing the show, we'll go all down till fifty sixty.
We'll get to him.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
He down that far sixty. He's still playing NB All Star.
He don't got no other All Star. I mean, did
what you mean?
Speaker 3 (44:16):
He's a third that straw.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
You don't have no other All Star.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
It doesn't matter. He got a great team, he got paid.
I'm saying Pascal Siakam is the best player on that
team and he's.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Playing not even an All Star.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Don't care about that. I didn't have a vote. Damn
all right, I got Pascal Siakams over him. Right now.
You take Pascal Siakam off. They don't they've been out
the playoffs. Did he have six a couple of times? Something?
Brunton is an everyday guy. Though he tried forty like
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then he then he tied Jordan. Anybody that ties Jordan's
killing anything. Yeah, he's got forty, like five games and
then he do something crazy. I yeah, forties performer dog
on the big stage in Broadway. They named him as
the best.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Tatum as fourth best player in the league.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Yeah all right, all right, so this is my ranking, jokers,
the best player. Damn, I got Luca Slash Tatum right there.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
You can't do all this What you mean this is mine?
Speaker 3 (45:29):
It's only one seat. No, it's one seat, right, they
can't sit here. It's no room.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
No, this ain't no motorcycle. This is this is a
car we're in.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
Yeah, you in it and it's a two seater. You
calling your shot?
Speaker 1 (45:42):
They is your number too? Sitt and squeezed it, squeezed
in uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
Somebody is two three time whip.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
They squeezed in this whip.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
No dog whose number two is number three? Somebody got it?
You gotta do it.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
I got.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
When we go back to Boston.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
I got Tatum number two.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
Must be going to Boston soon. He don't want to
hear it.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
I mean what he Neither one of them won a championship.
I mean what Tatum is averaging average thirty two and
twelve in the last four or five games they.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Dominated with Luca average for the season.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Yeah, but he didn't have to. He didn't have to
do all that. He didn't have to do all that
for Luca.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Didn't either, he did.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
If you replaced Luca on Boston for Tatum.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
You.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Day Brown. So Luca Jaylen Brown won more games. Oh
so you said I would want do that. It's too late.
So you said they would have won more games, they
would have Luc with would have dropped off defensively. With
Drew Holliday, they would have dropped off the defensively. And
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I'm not sure. I'm not sure that you could play
Luca with Drew on the Mavericks tell them out the
wife is. I think it's the same thing him and Kyrie.
I think it's the same thing.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Yeah, all right, so you got Tatum to all right.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Luca three, and then number four. I got wrong with that.
Number four.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
I'm wrong with this because it's all good. But let's
see number four.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
I got embiid ranking the players. Do you want me
to rank the players? And then I got you gotta
beat over Brunson, Yeah, after he beat him. Yeah, I
want to build around and be moving forward. Yes, And then.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
I'm going Yannis moving forward. I got Yannis, Like, listen,
this is my list. I got Yannis. That's my five
right there. I got the exacts, I got the I
got the and then probably shay is shas in there
SHA's right after. The only reason m b don't make
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first team All NBA is because he didn't played the
number of games, so somebody would have had to got bumped,
and I would have had to probably had to bump.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
I would have bumped Shay.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
That's my list, the guy that finished first in the West.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Yeah, they got lucky the last day of the season.
They last day of the season when Denver lost to
the San Antonio.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
You gotta be good and lucky in what you talk
about all the time? All right, They was good. They
was in position for the luck. They were sitting there
waiting for the flowers. Right, it was in there. They
knew what's spot to be right here? Right, Yeah, Sha
cannot be under, he's got to be over and B
he just look and B you can't go on what
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you think. You gotta go on what's going on?
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Right? All right? That's sure. That's my now.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Y'all have it man, another edition of the Truth Lounge.
Check back with us next week. By then, the Celtics
will probably be in the finals versus who knows, Dallas
and Luca. And then if Tatum beats Luca in the finals,
I'm sure his nests will change.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
That's the Truth Lounge. Y'all join us next week.
Flounop and Bobby Cute. The atmosphere's real.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
What's up, gang, Welcome to the Truth Lounge, your boy.
He pierced j Crow in the house. A lot to
talk about Man, Minnesota, Dallas for one ant Man tired,
Kyrie rejuvenated, Luca. Is he the best player in the
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playoffs right now? So I'm gonna ask you now, because
I got Dallas winning.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
This series in six what's your view on it? Now?
What's your view on it?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Because you have Minnesota, you have to post a boy,
you have the face of the league. And now he tired.
He tired of doing too many pull ups. You know
what I'm saying, too many curls.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I mean he was chasing Kyrie. Look, he came out
and said he want to take that match up and
he got a dose of it. So you gotta make
his adjustment. He came out and took nine shots in
the first quarter. That's not that hasn't been in style
in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
He didn't see that coming because based on how how
Kyrie was trending, and.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Then he come out like that. He didn't. He wasn't.
It was just like a punch.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
And that was necessary. Kyrie kept him in the game,
and then Luca was able to have that fourth quarter
that he had. So it's very difficult to deal with
Dallas like that. The role players are playing at exceptional level.
But I'm not. I'm not turning my back on Minnesota
just yet. Minnesota still look good. Minnesota looked very good.
Nas Reed, Can he play at that level? Are greater
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for the rest of the series. How do you use him?
What minutes does he play? Does his minutes go up?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Solid? He was solid?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
No, But does his minutes go up because he's looking like.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
A He looked like a game changer.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
That's what I'm saying. Because him. You know, if I was.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
In Minnesota, I'll start.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Dude, Well, McDaniels continue to his twenty point streak, I
think for Minnesota. For me, the most disheartening thing is
that we lost. When McDaniels gave us twenty again. That
was his third straight twenty point game. They was rolling
like that, him putting that piece to the puzzle together
X factor, Yes, because he had that. He hadn't scored
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twenty in back to back games all season, and he
put three games in a row. Now, how long you
expect him to keep that hot streak up.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, So I'm just trying to figure out, like and
Man's gonna play better. I mean, I think he's too
good not to play better. But what answer do they have?
What do you do with Kyrie? And what do you
do with Luca? Because ant gotta guard one of them?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Know what do you do with Conley? I'ma ask you
what do you do with Conley?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
This my adjustment.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Look, so my adjustment would be I'm starting os Reed
for the simple fact.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
That over the defensive play of the year.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, I just think it's about matchups right now. I
think I need I need his physicality. I like his physicality,
and I like the way he could stretch the defense,
you know what I'm saying. So and Man did really
had no driving lanes. If you put nas Read out there,
who's one of the top three point shooters in the league,
it opens up some lanes because I feel like when
you got go Bear out there, it close it up
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to where you can kind of help. The only threat
he is is a live threat. He not a post threat.
You know, he could be a live thread. You know,
he can finish underneath if you get in there wide open.
But I just think with naj Red, you get a
more spread floor because I need a man going downhill.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
That's what.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
But I think, look, he was tired, but look I
watched ad Man do something huge. I watched him take
a deep breath, the same thing you do as a player, right,
you take a deep breath in that fourth quarter, you
gather yourself, you rest, and then you come off that
pick and hit that big three. But what I did
see him do is go to the corner on a
critical possession when they had like a two point lead,
(03:50):
and say, can y'all get us a point? Let me
rest his possession. Yeah, he went to the corner late and.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Was like this was my observation.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, I saw that he's got tired, he said it,
But I think the reason he got tired, Yeah, he
had to chase around Kyrie, he had to guard Luca.
And this is why I think NAS read is so
critical because now if you put nas reading those picking rolls,
you can switch you know what I'm saying now, and
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he fighting through picking rolls all night. Just think about it.
You every time down and I have to deal with
this when I guarded like the top players, I'm picking
roll all night like nobody like when I was guarding Lebron.
It's a pick and roll every time down. You gonna
feel that after the game. And I think you know
when you.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Constantly boom fighting over boom, fighting over, fighting over that
wear you down. So now the nas read effect, you
ain't gotta fight over that. You ain't gotta have Rudy
Gobert back. You can say we'll switch that.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Well, one adjudstment too, that you're saying that that makes
us of sense to me? Is we got for me?
I like to start Alexander, let him get on Kyrie
early since we switching it, and let it let it
so he's taking out the line I'm taking now Conley
and Conley, Yeah, because I think he can stretch the
floor and shoot with the size better.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
But also the problem is not pick and roll defense.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
But that's what I'm saying. You put Jeanie because now
I'm letting Edwards guard in the fourth quarter. In the
third quarter, we're gonna measure him, let him come second half,
Let McDaniels take Luca early, let him go ahead and
use his lift on him, whatever he could do. But
let's leave Edwards free of that responsibility in the first half.
It didn't work. Kyrie got twenty four. Anyway. Yeah, now Edwards,
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you're gonna tighten up in the second half. You're gonna
have a better defensive rhythm in the second half, you're
gonna have coming out like that. Let's let you not
have to exert that energy on both ends. Garden and
piss like you just said, that's my adjustment to getting
him off Kyrie, getting him off Luca in the first half.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, I mean, that's one of them. But they still
have problems in that pick and roll.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, I'm going with the Knas thing too. I mean, look,
you can't be emotional. You defensive perio of the year,
so he can't play picking and roll defense defensive forty
the year.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well, when you got Luke and Kyrie coming off, they
played drop coverage. It's either you starting os read or
you change that coverage. Because a couple of times I've
seen when Gobert came up and it wasn't in the
drop coverage, they kind of trapped him. They threw it
to Lively in the middle, he turned it over and
they got the ball to Luca's hands. So it's blitzing, blitzing.
(06:20):
That's it's gotta be one of those two adjustments. If
they don't do that, they're starting reading and go to
the switch.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I don't think Luca. Luca is a player. To me,
you can't give him a healthy dose of anything like
nothing works against it.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
He'll figure it out.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, yeah, you can't to say this is the plan.
The plan is just it's a chess match. The match
ups dictated. The best thing you can try to do
is switch and give help. You know what I'm saying,
because that's bringing what Luca's not doing well that I
think he's not doing. He's not strong driving, getting that
(06:54):
drop jumpste power through file right now, it seems like it's.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Just where he throwing a live. You're doing the step back.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Let's do that. Let's do the switch. Let's switch with
Gobert because I didn't see him even go beart. Remember
the end of the quarter, I think it was second
or third quarter.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
He drove.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
He couldn't he threw a turnover because he couldn't go through,
go bear with the body for the finishes, like he
don't have that elevation right now, but he still got
his floor game and his mental right right.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
We'll see who you got in game two Minnesota. You
think Minnesota. I mean it's a do or die game.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, it's not a doer die game.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
It is a do die game. No, yeah it is.
You so you think it's a new day. If they
lose this game, this series over.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
It's not. Let's go win to and gonna go.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Into Dallas and get two games. They did it inn
that they did it in Denver, but you got to
you got two scores.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
He said, they did it in Denver, but they came because.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
You got two two ultimate scores out there that can
over here. They shut Murray, he ain't Kyrie Homie.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Well, we'll see, but the fourth quarter would be different
if Kyrie got to do is miss a couple of.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Shots major scores like that.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
You got a lot of his points in the loose
game in the half court. If Kyrie missed a couple
of shots, it normalizes things. They're gonna they can do
whatever they need to do. This series is going to
go long. Look, I wouldn't be surprised. I said before
the playoffs start, this is going to be one of
the most intriguing playoffs in a long time. I kept
saying that.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
It's over, It's not over. Dog, it's over.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
It's not like that no more. With these guys, it's not.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
It's a different animal. Dog twist.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
He can see one twist ankle away from being down.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
He can close though, he understands.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
He twists his ankle or something.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
That's what you're relying on. I don't know you relying
on a twisted ankle.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
No, I'm just saying anything can happens to get it.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
But if they lose Game two in Minnesota, it's over.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Not over the NBA right now, it's the new NBA.
It's different.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
So you still got Minnesota winning the series.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
These guys was up twenty points at home.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
And loss, So Minnesota's gonna win. And how many seven?
That was weak? That was week you said that. Yeah,
you wasn't strong.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
That went my voice that if you want to lower
your backs, its winning in six or less.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Dallas is winning on six or less.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Okay, there are one nothing he wanted to get loud.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Last had Dallas. I had Dallas, but.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Not like that, not with all of this.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Now you yeah, I forget. It was on the road.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah, six, all right?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
You feeling yeah? All right, We'll say you had a
film session. Coach let him have it.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
My thing about Littlego is still you still can all
work him on the defensive side. He made critical stops
in the fourth quarter. Give credit he made he made
a defensive stance on Conley slide and he got a
nice man still on the lib. But he's still giving
up rebound gives on the backside.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
He's given out that effort on deep.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
He's smart, He's not giving out effort. He's intelligent, he's skilled.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
And the way he's slid with colle they scored on position,
but he.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
One possession effort is what of Minnesota exhausted themselves?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Still late?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
He's smart, that's not he's a smart effort.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
You have to really back up and understand the awareness
and jump high enough to get like that's the highest
I've seeing him jump. All serious.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
It's perfect time and he's smarter than everybody.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
See the best guard in the in the UH in
the league. He's been that way for a while. He's
been the best guard in the league.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
What is the average?
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I get it, okay, well is who the second best
guard in the league.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
The second best guard man he's been the best guard Lucal.
Let's get that clear. He went to the conference finals
two years because so now we can look and his
body of work looks different.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
He's the best point, he's the best guard. We're just
gonna say guard, so over.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Curry over every single guy he's second.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Who's second?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Man, These guys are scrapping, scrapping right now. A lot
of people scrapping for that second seat and Luca second
in the m v P race. Let's not get that twisted,
all right. Everybody else is scrapping, and everybody else has
a case for numbers.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Who's the second best guard in the league?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
And man, we gotta just sit and man hold on, Kyrie.
Can you keep pissing him off and keep saying that's
what you keep trying to do. Huh, you keep trying
to piss Kyrie off and get your prediction right because you.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Keep I'm not pissing, I'm rolling with them.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
That's what I'm saying. Kyrie is like this, and man,
so like if I'm Kyrie.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
About baby Jordans and facing the league, where is man
fitting all of this?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Man, it's we're going to see. Let it play.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Let's see what today based.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
On today, you gotta put an amp man there.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
But I'm number two Uh, yeah, he's a lot over Shay.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
He's alive, dude.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Just over Curry? Yeah what cur over Bronson? Steph Curry.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Steph Curry is not in these talks.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
He's not in the best guard conversation all the time.
I'm not right now, No, not right now. He's in
an all time thing. He's not. That's not That's not
a knock.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yeah, that's not a knock. He's not playing these guys
is he didn't make them play?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
What it be safe to say? So?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Right now we got two first team All nbas in
the conference finals.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Where does Halliburton fitting all this? He's in the conference finals.
Nobody had Indiana getting to the conference Yeah, they have
to deal. They dealt.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
William Burdon's tricky, right, He's so tricky, like down and
out and he like he couldn't like he like he
has some holes, Like does he have a medium game?
He's just winning, man. He's playing with spunk and with
his ass and he's just a winner.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
You got Halliburton or Shay Hallan Burdon.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
He went to Madison Square Garden and pulled a Reggie Junior.
What you mean, Shaye is nice? If we have a
skill contest. Halling Burton went to went to Madison Square
Garden game seven that on his resume. He gonna tell
his kids about that for it and cut to tape.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Oh my god, we are disrespectful here.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
We're not, dude, This dude is hurt and he's he
gotta he gotta get himself back together. Man, he got
the Lakers got him out of there. He's look, we
love John Moren. Is the is the is the people.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Speaking of speaking of the guards Haller Burdon, and what
is Brunson fitting all this.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Cold? So you got Halliburton over Brunson. I don't he
just beat him?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
No, not him. It took a unity, it took all
that he was.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
He was inspiring all ith. But by the way, wait,
didn't we have some push ups on that series?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
We did?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Man? I mean, can I get three at least just
to show that your man? Give me?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I had twenty push up We had twenty. Give me
like five, you give me like five right now? I
got them on site, right right right right here, get me.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
On site push ups? I like that. Honor his back.
There we go there. This was weak. Go down, dog man. Okay, okay, okay,
damn you look at least struggling with this. That is
a struggle. How many is that?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Dog?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
You struggling?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Man?
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Come on, I don't hurt your back. Damn a dumb
you knocked them out?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
All right?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
You don't be them push ups because we bet on
the Indiana vers New York series push ups on the site.
You want to put some push ups on this, next
on this Dallas, this Dallas.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Minnesota got to push up. Get Dallas Minnesota push ups
on that.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I'm ready for this.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
That Minnesota, that was Minnesota, Minnesota put some push up
so that series, Uh, let's do it dump all right,
we got a damn push ups? Shall hear this from
the truth? Last twenty push ups Dallas versus going.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Then now you're gonna have me.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
You're gonna get right, You're gonna be right for the something.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Because now I gotta go with the hand dog, I
gotta go with these Minnesota. Then that's what I'm going with.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
All right.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Now what you saying, really what Dallas is killer?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Now you're not going with yeah, no change.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Now I'm going with the winners this one. How about
I give this, let's revisit this. Look, you gotta get down.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
More tired than that man. Right now, Look at bring
man fifty years old. He more turned than that man right.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
There, quick, dog, I gotta make it.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Get This man's a water man, see right.
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just shift gears a little bit here away from the playoffs.
I want to give some light to what's going on
in San Antonio because Win mien Yama, first Team All
Defense runner up to Defensive Player of the Year. I
had them as Defensive Player of the Year, you know,
before the season even started, because I saw that type
of potential. Now, if you're one of these veterans right
(17:55):
now who are free agent, would you be looking at
a team up with him? You know, somebody that's like, man,
I see the next five years this dude can he
changes the game?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Like, is there a player out there right now that
you can put with him and say, if they get him,
and it's got to be realistic, they could be a
contender as soon as next year or the year after.
Because when I think about it, I'm gonna tell you
my opinion. I think if you added Donovan Mitchell over there,
(18:28):
that's gonna shake up the West a little bit, just
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I ain't saying they contenders, but it's gonna be a
problem with this dude's learning curve that he's already exceeding
and blowing experts. I don't even know if he's exceeded
or blowing expectations out the window. But he's giving us
everything we expected.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
He has the love for the game. He has the
understanding of history, but he has the knowledge itself. He
knows who he is.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
So who could you put with him?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Because I just feel like Donovan Mitchell would be great,
don't I don't know, like you said, if that makes
him content. I like their team, I think they would
still be I think they still missing when I when
I look at them, I'm looking at who's going to
be Can.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
You put Donovan Mitchell with them? Their top four seed
in the West.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I don't know if donovand Mitchell is the guy to
be the I think he can be the guy in
the stat sheet, But who's going to be the guy
in the locker room that gets them through. I'm not
knocking Doan saying he's not that guy.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I'm not He's always been that guy in the locker
room who but think about this. You always when you've
looked at all a.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Sudden that though they have mature guys, though that they
had a certain type of culture that's not existing right now.
When you had Genobili, you had you had Genobili, you
had Parker, right, those were guys that was in locker rooms.
They were pros at seventeen eighteen. They didn't go to
high school and play high school basketball. They came with
another type of energy into your locker room, being that
(19:51):
they was already veteran countrymen pros. Now they don't have it.
They got a lot of young talent. So who is
going to be the guy?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Donovan Mitchell's the guy he goes over there. He's made
the playoffs every year of his career.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
But is that his energy? Is that his thing?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I feel like I feel like it is. I feel
like he got a voice out here.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I feel like they're missing somebody else who's already like
kind of like, have.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
You team up Donovan Mitchell. That's gonna give you because
next year gonna be.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
An All Star.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Something on you right now that I think, if I'm Lebron,
just take you and Broanny go over there, go over there.
Letbron Letbron orchestrate the i Q. I'm not sure upgrade.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I think Bron kind of stunt his growth little No.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
He got to go to and be the point forward
and then pull him over the top of that young team.
You think you know, let me ask.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
You, do you think Winby can carry an offense?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah? I think he can. I think Bron can give
him that the filling the holes for you, like when
he's having like, Okay, let me get just through these spots.
Because when we're gonna have some phenomenal moments, right, he's
still growing, when we're gonna be unstopped for a stretch
like oh he got it going. Get him. Now, you're
gonna look and see they pushing him too far out.
We're not able to execute this, right.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
He's always gonna need that perimeter player that could create
though that shot and get a shot for others.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
What I'm thinking Bron can do now he want to
play like that, right.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
But that's gonna be a short window if you get him.
If you no, I think if you that window is
gonna be open for the next seven years.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Like Mitchell, I think it's I think he's not enough,
Like because you're not.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Saying it's enough to win it.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
But I think it's a top four seed in the West,
and I think you may be one piece away. And
they don't got to be an All Star because you're
gonna you got two All Stars because win't be gonna
be an All Star next year.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
He gonna be.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Defensive Player of the Year next year. He's gonna be
an All Star next year. Like, add Mitchell to that mix,
it's gonna be a problem because Lakers is fading, Golden
State is face getting older, Phoenix is getting older.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You know these are playing teams now.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
You're still gonna have the Denvers, the Minnesota's, the OKCS,
Memphis is coming, Houston is coming. And this is the transition.
This is the transition. But where be he different? If
you get Donovan Mitchell in there?
Speaker 3 (22:18):
See, he needs somebody like Luca to me, He needs
somebody to another.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Like in Dallas. I can't forget them because now what.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I'm saying to me women Yonna needs Donovan Mitchell to
me doesn't get him going because he's not the primary
ball headler. He's not a second day.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I like Donovan Mitchell as a primary Bauhara.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Not with Wimby. I don't know if he should like
I don't know if he has the rhythm of my turn,
your turn. Being a natural guard that's played the my turn,
you turn game, your turn game like a Luca, he
understands that. That's why him and Kylerie's relationship has grown
and evolved, because he's figured out how to help cut
like your turn, That's what a real point guard that
can score understands the my turn, your turn. And I
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don't think Mitchell he didn't coexist well with Garland. I
think there needs.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
To be I think it's a different.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I think it's a different, but I think that this
is me. I think they're Yeah, but you just said
they weren't contender, So I'm looking at a bigger picture
these guys. Papavich is getting older. This is coming down.
How many long we want him out here standing on
the sidelines. We want to get him some with somebody
who can orchestrate an offense. Donovan Mitchell can execute. You
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want somebody to go out there and devour dudes and
be a matchup problem and play hard and be electrifying
and add to that, Yes, but how do you get
wym Biyanna off, how do you have a guy that
understands him and what he needs to be the main guy.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I think you'll understand that when you play.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
With the lord general.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I think if you're a special talent and you're one
of the guys in the league, like Donovan Mitchell, you
you have an understanding of greatness and I think his
IQ will tell him I need to do this.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I'm saying. Listen, came to the team, I knew I
didn't have to score twenty five. I was like, shoot,
I gotta play with dude. I gotta play with Ray.
I got to play with the ticket.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
That I navigated like it's his term. Okay, I navigated.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
It might be a night where I get like seven
shots because because I navigated that.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
But guys, what I'm saying, I think Donovan.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I think I think but Ron was like second year
Rondo though.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, but he still was the guy that understood. He
still had the confidence and.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
He wasn't to get between stretch in our big games.
It was like we had to navigate that season.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I don't definite what I'm saying. I don't think season
like you guys are at that stage. I look at
Donovan being this is not even not like being more
of a ray.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Right, He's more than a ray, you.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Know, I mean from a talent perspective. I'm just talking
about from a like now put him with somebody else
where you can just unleash him.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I like, just playmaker and yeah, he's more skilled.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Saying I'm saying the role in the mentalities say that's
why I said I'm not comparing these games. I'm saying
they like you and KG. People don't understand you had seasoning.
You play point in high school, senior year, you play
in a team structure with Kansas. You had the understanding
of this type of stuff that people don't haven't been through.
So now you're a vet thirty in your career at
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this point. Now they're coming to your thing. You're comfortable. KG.
You know he's unselfish, he's trying to win. Yeah, so
this is a whole different dynamic. I think with Mitchell
you need to turn him and say, you get I
don't need you waiting up for win beyonda you go
go let me do the Somebody else bring the balance
between these two. Somebody else on the floor that says,
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hold on, d let Let's get Winby, like get let
d know so you can keep him.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
The pieces over there, you know what I'm.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Saying, They get that somebody who can they.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Can keep some of that young town win the.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Game, because that's what we lack. Like when they talk
about the point guard position, that's but he's a talent.
He controls the game. I think he's a piece.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I mean that's the same thing you saying with Rondo
was in the second year.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
No, but he controls the game. He understands. This is
what I'm saying. The point guard is still valuable because
this guy understands the flow. It's not about Okay, we
can take the point. We got other playmakers. That's what
they tried in Phoenix. Somebody has to understand the timing
and the pace and what we need and have that
concern when you're just a natural score you want.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
To gmploy minute you add Donovan Mitchell to San Antonio,
did you bring black or you bring in like Jordan Clarkston.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I'm like, where's our general? We got Jordan Clarkson not
passing the Winby on a good shot like I was open.
I work on this and we're gonna start having all
these dynamics. No, I want to That's what I'm saying.
It's harder when you got Winby. He's because he's not
a prime like people like Winby and a d they're
different than like a Giannis, you know what I'm saying,
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Like they don't they don't facility. They can make a
play dribbling here and there, but they're not ball handlers
that are going to initiate create their own shot. They
need to be giving the ball in a position to execute.
So they need to play with people and guys. And
if you make you reduced Downovan Mitchell to now trying
to get spend his whole season trying to help win Beyonna.
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You took away his Giller's and.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I feel like something gonna happen. Something's going on in Cleveland.
Donovan Mitchell is there. They fired the coach, so you
know it's good. I like talking about these types of
about these scenarios.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I would mind seeing a Paul George over there with him.
I wouldn't mind seeing a Paul George with him on
a wine light. Like Paul George got that spirit he
wanted to get over the top. I think he's still
motivated and his leadership to that locker room. I just
prove invaluable with them young boys like Paul George.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
They contender.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
I think they's in another piece.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
So they're steal a piece away.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah, they sent me the piece away.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
They add Lebron and bronni contender.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Lebron changes things. I'm just telling you.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I'm saying they contender. Yeah, they contender. They add forty
year old Lebron and Bron.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, Cabron know the game. He gonna use all these pieces.
There's advantage. You give him a win, Biana right now,
with that energy to play that defense like that, with
all these young bulls that he can see in the
blueprint from Minnesota, how they got these young boys playing height,
playing full playing all this so he understands when he
gets to the playoffs, he gonna turn the juice of Lebron.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Ad what's the difference.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yeah, but the energy of the other guys defensively because
they the Lakers was.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
You got a more seasoned guy who's won a championship,
got two.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Way players that shoot him.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
How does Lebron make them a contender? And Paul George
and Donovan.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Don't Paul George and Donovan due.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
No, I'm saying, like if you I'm just trying to
get to understand.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
This, Oh, because style of play right and leadership. Because
what I'm saying with the Lakers right, your lineups was
you had to go offensive or defensive. So you had
to either put in your two guys in Reeves and
d Low or you had to go non offensive and
then you clog the space and for Ad with no shooting.
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So what you had to do Now with these guys
in San Antonio, they can space and shoot the Kelton Johnson's,
the Vacilles. Those guys become more valuable now when you
add Lebron, right, because now they're gonna turn up and
play two way basketball. Now you got a defensive Player
of the Year candidate with you. Now you get Lebron's
getting them off and he's deciding.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I mean, Ad is a defensive player to your candidate too.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yeah. But I'm saying, but with the roster around them,
and when Beyonna is another thing. Bro, Like you know
what I'm saying, I'm not knocking a d Lebron is good.
It's that's why they're not trying to break them up.
It's like, how do you find San Antonio. If you
can put a D and Lebron on San Antonio with
their young talent, are you gonna say, all right, a
D Lebron with just yeah, just Baselle Johnson, because now
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that's what they're looking for. They're trying to find him
guys who can play two way basketball. You know a
lot of these guys. Lakers got a defensive team and
an offensive team.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
All right, So look, let's talk about the All NBA
teams because when I look at it top the bottom,
to me, there were some snubs. Now I look at
the first team All NBA, Joannis Luca, Shaye, Joker Tatum.
I don't think nobody got snapped out the first team.
I think that's that's been my first team since the
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season ended. I'm sticking with that. I don't really see nothing.
Now on the second team, you got Jayalen Brunson, Anthony Davis,
Kevin Durant, ant Man and Kile and Kawhi. Now is
there anybody that you would put on the second team
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that you would take off on this squad?
Speaker 3 (30:56):
I mean, we don't like the way Kawhi got He
wasn't healthy defense.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I mean he played enough games sixty the criteria.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I don't. I don't have a I don't know nobody
take off. I don't have I can't say i'll take
anybody off.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I'm taking Anthony Davis off. I'm taking Anthony Davis.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Off, right. He's not putting them at a center now.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
No, it's positionless. I'm taking Anthony Davis off because I
just don't like having a playing guy two playing guys
in the second team, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
And wait, was Phoenix was a player?
Speaker 3 (31:31):
No?
Speaker 2 (31:32):
No, they wasn't a playing right, Okay, so we got
one playing guy. I like Jalen Brown on the second
team because I mean, you got a sixty four win
team and he was left off completely first, second, third.
You gotta have two guys on the sixty four win
team and y'all won by a large margin. Like I
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just you know, and this has nothing to do with
the numbers. A D numbers speak volumes. I would have
had him on the third team, though with Lebron, I
can't put two Lakers on all NBA, right, you know
what I'm saying. And I guess it's a toss up
on who you leave off out of Lebron and a D.
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Maybe you gotta go with Lebron and leave a d off. Now,
when I look at it, on the third team, you
got Booker, Curry, Halliburton, Lebron, and Sabonis. Now, when I
look at these teams, you didn't have no Mitchell. He
didn't meet the criteria, he didn't play enough games. But
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the people who did meet the criteria, guys like Jaylen Brown,
I would have put him on second team.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Uh who else am I thinking? Right now? You've got
Polo in Orlando. I think I would have to give
me one. I'm gonna put Polo Overbonas. Simona's had a
record breaking gear, but I think I gotta put Paolo
in there. You're taking Polo over Sabonis?
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yes, all right?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
So now what about Now? What about Kyrie?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
I think Kyrie is just right up under it.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Maxi? You got MAXI? Yeah, I got Kyrie and Maxi
on the fourteen, Kyrie and Maxie on the Fortune. You
ain't taking none of them off. So what about when
Ben Yama? You don't got when Byama on none of this?
Speaker 3 (33:34):
It's tough.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
It's tough.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
It's tough, Like I can't just go taking these guys off.
There cosation only guy only. I'm not gonna knock the
Jayleen Brown thing. I got no problem with that, what
you're saying. I think that sounds good.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I think legitimately, but I can't taking off.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
I'm taking off. I'm adding Jaylen Brown out of everybody
all who's left?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
MAXI? Jaylen Brown? Winbin Yama?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Uh, you know, I think Jaylen Brown deserved it for
being on the You can't tell me you don't have
two players on the sixty four win team. You got
two players on the Lakers, But you got two players
on the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Lakers run the league like I don't, that's what happens.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
And you got two players from Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yeah, that's just like you gotta feel a certain kind
of way.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
You gotta feel a certain kind of way. You gotta
feel a certain kind of two players on Phoenix, Dog,
what's going on down there? Who's voting on this? That's
media members? Media members.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Man, that's a problem when you look at it like that,
you look at it like, yeah, so I got Jayleen
Brown as a snub, and I got Polo as a
snub as well. So take off one of those guys,
do what you will. I don't got a booker on
my on my team. So I'm gonna go ahead and
put Brown instead of Booker on thirteen. Yeah, and I'm
gonna take Laker, flip a coin who you're taking off?
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I gotta take off a Laker and put but.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I gotta take off a D. I give Lebron the
edge over a d.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Okay with something because we can't have Like you said,
I can't have two Lakers. But the soun not a plan,
we said.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
But I just still but I can't have two sons either.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
But I got Brown over over him, Yeah, over Booker?
All right, So so we take got Booker on fifteen.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Were taken off a D and Booker and Addon Polo.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
And Brown Adan Booker on fifteen fifteen. Damn damn Gria, Maxy,
Damn Kyria Maxie in my guards.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Let me ask you something like, Man, I've been like
fighting for my boy lately, and Tatum is getting a
lot of criticism for his play and I'm trying to
figure out how is that. I mean, like Game one,
they like he didn't touch the ball, he didn't score
for a twelve minute stretch, and he ended up with
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like thirty thirty plus points ten plus, So why why
is there? Why do you think there's this criticism of
Jason Tatum because when I see guys like, yeah, man,
and I know he's only twenty two, but we over
here annoying him as the face of the league, Babie Jordan,
and he goes out to how this performance six and
twenty four. In game seven they win, I don't hear nothing.
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Then he goes in game one, six to sixteen, they lose,
and I'm not hearing the same type of criticism. You
know that I hear on the level of Jason Taylan that.
But then there's other players too.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
No but them two. That's two different things. I can
tell you. First of all, the criticism that Titum is
because everybody's trying to tell him how to close the
You know how when you're doing something, you're trying to
fix the lock. Now everybody trying to tell you do
it this way. Everybody's trying to tell Taitum how to
close the show because he haven't proved he can do
it right. He's right there, he's a great one, and
everybody's just being critical of everybody at the top. You
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know how that go?
Speaker 1 (36:45):
He earned the same time.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
But I'm gonna tell you because but they ain't been
to the they ain't been living in the finals in
the Eastern Conference finals like him, and he haven't closed
the lock on the chip and this and that and
the other. So everybody's trying to tell him how to
do it. He needed it do his thing. But the
difference between him and ant Man is that Tatum has
his demeanor. He's chill man, he's a solid assassin, and
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man is the people's champ.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
I don't hear this about Luca.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
He has good, big criticism Luca. Can't he even win
with his style? Lucas nobody. Luca is the most criticized.
Yes he is. Can he even win like this? Is
he a hardened? Is he the way? Can you? It's
been proving this style can't win this that, And they
don't talk about Tatum in that fashion. That's the ultimately.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
In a win.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Yeah, because they're looking ahead, they're looking He's being measured
by the finals and this is great for him. This
is what you want. Yeah, if you really like this,
he's reached the big dog status. But in terms of
what Edwards, because Edwards gives you a different visual Edwards
gives you that that look of desperation, for this chip, right,
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he gives you that. That's why I saw in the
fuity you gave him a minus on the sixth twenty
four games, right, because you know he's giving you all
this other stuff and energy that you want. And this
is the same thing people want from Tatum. But that's
not his personality. He's is and that's why. But I
think Tatum just got it.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
I'm gonna be honest when I really think about big
picture wise, why you get the criticisms because Celtics have
been in the picture for a championship for quite some.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Time now and they haven't gotten over the hump. You know,
every year they've been in contention, they've been to the
conference finals. Expectations every year. You know, we didn't have
these expectations. Luca hasn't had no expectations yet. Nobody said
Dallas should win it and man ain't. Nobody said nothing.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
About the expectations for him until now, Like right now,
they're like, oh, Minnesota could probably win it now, and
they didn't say that until after they beat Denver. So
maybe it's warranted for the simple fact that he's been
to the conference finals six times, been to the finals.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Everybody got a pinion on it now.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
And you know, I think sometimes it's unfair, but sometimes
it's warranted because of the expectations you get here in
the year. I thought there was probably the favorite versus
Golden State when they won Game two and go to State.
He probably was the favorite before that series. And so
but I just think he comes with it. I think
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he comes with it. I just couldn't believe the unfair
criticism he got when they won. They won the game
in game one.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
You see, I don't look at the criticism. I look
at what your peers are saying. Like in terms of
the guys, like who's saying something? Is it just the
media or is it guys like that played. Those guys
are trying to help him win the show. They're looking
they're looking like you said, he's been to the fuse.
They're looking like they're trying to project.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
In order to quiet that.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
We're just gonna he just got to just gonna have
to quiet everything up and win it like that, and
then it's gonna quiet.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
He's doing this thing. He's doing this thing. He's focused
on what his task is. Yeah, and you know, let's
see how he goes about his business. He's been having
a great run in this playoffs. I mean, look, they lost,
they dropped the game. Everybody want perfection.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Where you rank him right now as best player in
the League's.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Where do you come into All Star voting?
Speaker 1 (40:20):
I don't remember All Star voting?
Speaker 3 (40:22):
MVP, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Where you had Joker? You had Luca, Yeah, he was
six or seven.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
I don't got him there. I got him hired than that.
He shouldn't be there.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
But he where you got him as far as rank
as player in the league, you got him over Anthony
Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
I think he's the best at his position right now.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I said that you got him over Anthony Edwards as
a player right now, my love, He's just my kind
of guy. Man, So you like Edwards overtatum right now?
Speaker 3 (40:58):
This personal me, dude.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
All right, that's your opinion, that's what it is, alright.
So where you rank him in the league right now?
Who's number one?
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Joker? Jokers probably Jokers the best player Joker? Yeah, okay,
Now who you got after that?
Speaker 3 (41:14):
I got the same that the MVP bow this guy.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
All right? Who you got third?
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Well, actually I got Anthony over over right now, that's
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Who you got third, Anthony over Janni's.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Janni's is not health man, Listen.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
I don't be a prisoner moment. Right now?
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Who is the right now? You just said right now?
Speaker 1 (41:34):
All right?
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Who the guy? Do we even know if he's gonna
be able to walk? Aus he can he run? Don't
he's not healthy? I don't do that.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
You ranked him and you have to just these is
the best player if these are the best players in
the league right now, and he's the best player in
the league.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
No, he's after all that we said to him, so joker, yes, Luca, Yes,
Anthony Edwards, it's.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
The third best player in the league. Over and b.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Again.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
I think you're forgetting em. I think you forgetting.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Anthony Edwards right now. You just asked me. I thought
I got my information. I'm watching these playoffs. I'm watching
I'm seeing what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
This is so Edwards?
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Then who's he's in the finals? The Western Conference finals, in.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
The in the Eastern Commons finals. So where where he where?
Speaker 3 (42:35):
He's right up under this guy? I got fourth? He's fourth?
Speaker 1 (42:39):
All right? Who you got fifth?
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Alexander? Just no, indeed, nope.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
You got Brunton over Shay. Yes, you haven't said Jannie
and bid. You haven't say. You haven't said uh. But
then you said, HOLLI Burdon. You said how burd was
over Brunson.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
I did not.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
You didn't say that.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
No. I said he had a great series game.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
He's still playing and he beat him.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
No, he I said, Remember, I said he had a
tag team.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Who's going right now?
Speaker 3 (43:12):
No, he wasn't going right now. He had a tag team.
It took two point guards to be Brunton. You have
TJ McConnell out there helping him out. He had flavored
Flay back there with Chuck d come out there by
myself with the mic.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
He got this, dude.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
No, TJ McConnell's playing point guard, creating plays everybody. Those
guys are balling because of me. I'm Brunson, so that
he Those guys played well because of him and attention
he brought. T J McConnell was playing well because of
(43:50):
what TJ mccon What will you we keep going? If
you want to stay here and you.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Keep doing you got going now because you put a
man three because what he got haven't got the.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
High a burden number yet. If you want to keep
doing the show, we'll go all down till fifty sixty.
We'll get to him.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
He down that far sixty. He's still playing NB All Star.
He don't got no other All Star. I mean, did
what you mean?
Speaker 3 (44:16):
He's a third that straw.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
You don't have no other All Star.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
It doesn't matter. He got a great team, he got paid.
I'm saying Pascal Siakam is the best player on that
team and he's.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Playing not even an All Star.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Don't care about that. I didn't have a vote. Damn
all right, I got Pascal Siakams over him. Right now.
You take Pascal Siakam off. They don't they've been out
the playoffs. Did he have six a couple of times? Something?
Brunton is an everyday guy. Though he tried forty like
(44:49):
then he then he tied Jordan. Anybody that ties Jordan's
killing anything. Yeah, he's got forty, like five games and
then he do something crazy. I yeah, forties performer dog
on the big stage in Broadway. They named him as
the best.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Tatum as fourth best player in the league.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Yeah all right, all right, so this is my ranking, jokers,
the best player. Damn, I got Luca Slash Tatum right there.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
You can't do all this What you mean this is mine?
Speaker 3 (45:29):
It's only one seat. No, it's one seat, right, they
can't sit here. It's no room.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
No, this ain't no motorcycle. This is this is a
car we're in.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
Yeah, you in it and it's a two seater. You
calling your shot?
Speaker 1 (45:42):
They is your number too? Sitt and squeezed it, squeezed
in uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
Somebody is two three time whip.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
They squeezed in this whip.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
No dog whose number two is number three? Somebody got it?
You gotta do it.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
I got.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
When we go back to Boston.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
I got Tatum number two.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
Must be going to Boston soon. He don't want to
hear it.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
I mean what he Neither one of them won a championship.
I mean what Tatum is averaging average thirty two and
twelve in the last four or five games they.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Dominated with Luca average for the season.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Yeah, but he didn't have to. He didn't have to
do all that. He didn't have to do all that
for Luca.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Didn't either, he did.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
If you replaced Luca on Boston for Tatum.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
You.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Day Brown. So Luca Jaylen Brown won more games. Oh
so you said I would want do that. It's too late.
So you said they would have won more games, they
would have Luc with would have dropped off defensively. With
Drew Holliday, they would have dropped off the defensively. And
(47:03):
I'm not sure. I'm not sure that you could play
Luca with Drew on the Mavericks tell them out the
wife is. I think it's the same thing him and Kyrie.
I think it's the same thing.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Yeah, all right, so you got Tatum to all right.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Luca three, and then number four. I got wrong with that.
Number four.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
I'm wrong with this because it's all good. But let's
see number four.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
I got embiid ranking the players. Do you want me
to rank the players? And then I got you gotta
beat over Brunson, Yeah, after he beat him. Yeah, I
want to build around and be moving forward. Yes, And then.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
I'm going Yannis moving forward. I got Yannis, Like, listen,
this is my list. I got Yannis. That's my five
right there. I got the exacts, I got the I
got the and then probably shay is shas in there
SHA's right after. The only reason m b don't make
(48:04):
first team All NBA is because he didn't played the
number of games, so somebody would have had to got bumped,
and I would have had to probably had to bump.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
I would have bumped Shay.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
That's my list, the guy that finished first in the West.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Yeah, they got lucky the last day of the season.
They last day of the season when Denver lost to
the San Antonio.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
You gotta be good and lucky in what you talk
about all the time? All right, They was good. They
was in position for the luck. They were sitting there
waiting for the flowers. Right, it was in there. They
knew what's spot to be right here? Right, Yeah, Sha
cannot be under, he's got to be over and B
he just look and B you can't go on what
(48:48):
you think. You gotta go on what's going on?
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Right? All right? That's sure. That's my now.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Y'all have it man, another edition of the Truth Lounge.
Check back with us next week. By then, the Celtics
will probably be in the finals versus who knows, Dallas
and Luca. And then if Tatum beats Luca in the finals,
I'm sure his nests will change.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
That's the Truth Lounge. Y'all join us next week.
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