The Infamous Wheelchair Game, Wemby's Ranks Among #1 Picks, Celtics | Episode 2 | The Truth Lounge

The Truth Lounge is BACK as Paul gets real with Matt Barnes & Jason Crowe. The trio discuses Wemby;s rank among #1 overall picks, the Celtics and Lakers ceilings, high school hoops, and more. Plus, on this weeks 'Truth Serum', Paul reveals all about the infamous wheelchair game. 

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Speaker 3 (01:10):
The Smoke Indianapolis All Star twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Jack, it has been a solid day. We gotta, we gotta.
This is a I would say, a trendsetter episode. Yeah,
what else let me say about it? I mean, he's
he's controlling the game right, kicking the door open for us,
you know what I'm saying. In the snake skin when
it was locked, he kicked that motherfucker over.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Definitely in snake skins. I don't think about all that stuff,
but yeah, definitely. And these snakes died peacefully in their sleep. Yeah,
just so they weren't harm They were not harmed.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
I love to hear that. Man. Welcome to the show,
Pat McAfee. Yeah, excited about this man. It's our guy. Man,
it's our guy. Will tell us how you and Pat
initially met.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
So me and Pat initially met when I played there
for the pacers, And the first time we met was
at I don't know, it was a holiday party and
men Jamin was coming because Peyton invited us. As soon
as I walked in, he sent you to come greet
us and bring us to the back.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Soon as I got there, I'm like, hold.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Up, man, this guy we just hit it off. Next thing,
you know, you know, we was having drinks. We had
a good time, and ever since then, you know, we
are the mutual respect for each other and uh, this
has been a good relationship since.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Stack watching you through the years, learning about you.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, you're a legend, dude. And you see where I started.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Yeah, hey, hey listen, and you've seen where I started.
So I mean here in Indianapolis, those first couple of
years I got I don't want to say baptized, but
like I got introduced to the city by the coolest
people on earth, you know, like Stack, Peyton, Joseph and
Died Clint Sessions. Then you go back to like Paul
George was in there, Roy Hibbert was in that, like

(02:46):
there was Indianapolis was a great time, a great place,
and uh, I was lucky to be here and you
were always kind of me, which is awesome. I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
A good dude, good dude. First of all, before we
get I mean, we want to just congratulate you.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
I think your evolution in the path you've taken, and
I think, like Jack said, the doors you've kicked down
and really kind of just unapologetically you. You are arguably,
if not be, one of the biggest voices in sports media.
And it's almost this new sports media from a standpoint
of a former player doing it. It's a real new wave.

(03:21):
But first of all, congratulations on that. But talk to
us about that journey, because I'm sure it wasn't as
easy as people think. You know, now we're seeing you
on TV in your tank tops on ESPN and you
get to cuss and you get to do other shit.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
I'm like, yo, bros, really doing it his way.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
I have to negotiate all that in there. So there's
actually there was in negotiation the words that I'd be
allowed to say on ESPN. Oh really yeah, so there was,
like in the contract. So I negotiate myself. So I'm
my own agent too. So like I'm a hard person
to represent, is what I've learned through the agent trial
and air game. So I just decided I wanted to

(03:57):
start representing myself like five six years ago, and I
want to be in the rooms. You know, I want
to hear what's being said. I want to know why
things are being said, and I want to know why
things have been the way they are seemingly, you know,
as a fan of sport, as a fan of sports media.
So like going in there now and within the last
year versus like five years ago, vastly different points of leverage,

(04:19):
I would say, And to be honest, I appreciate you
guys saying that because I've been watching you guys. I
mean just historic. I mean, Matt, I know it probably
gets brought up every single day, but like in the
gift is one of the greatest of all time, you
and Kobe. That moment is like one of the most
legendary moments in the history of sport. And then to
watch you and Kobe talk about it on this podcast,

(04:42):
that's like something you can't get anywhere else. So like,
I'm inspired by you guys. I'm inspired by all athletes
that kind of choose to tell their own story and
eliminate the middleman who has always been able to pick
and choose which stories matter, which stories don't matter, which
voices matter, which voices don't matter. Like I'm a punter,
bro okay, So like you don't have to know football

(05:02):
that well to know that my position ain't worth a fuck.
Like if we are, you know, like if we're down,
if we're down twenty eight points in the second half,
I'm closer to front row than a motherfucking and crowd,
but we have the same exact impact on the game,
you know. So like I understand that I've always been
very self aware about that, but like me having the

(05:25):
opportunity to talk to people that actually know the answers
and play and oh the I have so much admiration
for everybody that's doing their own things. So like I
didn't know that we're going to be able to do this.
And the group of dudes I have around me are dogs.
They all dogs. We all have the same mindset. We
have great work ethics, you know. I think that's something
like professional athletes, and my guys aren't professional athletes, but

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it's something that we take for granted, especially whenever you
kind of mingle into the rest of the world, Like
work ethic is something that not everybody has, right. I
am very lucky that my entire team dogs, all of
them work their asses off. So we've all had the
same mission, we've all had the same mindset, we've all
had the same goals, and we just try to get

(06:07):
on microphones and make people's lives a little bit better,
happier and do some sports talk. And yeah, it's the
dumbest shit of all time that now we're on ESPN,
we're also on YouTube. We got fans in like New
Zealand every single day that watch our shit. Like, it's
just very very lucky, very very dumb. And to say
it was planned would be a lie. Like, and we
had no idea that this was going to happen.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
I mean, your rise to the top, I mean I'm
sure you.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
And we talked to Dan LeBatard about this about athletes
kind of coming in the space and not necessarily cutting
the line.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
But he's talks somehit on me, has he? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Oh get him. That's our guy. But we love to
get Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
When I saw you signed with him, I was certainly
asking some questions. This guy over here, I think and
Ryan is his name is?

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Ryan? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Yeah, I thought you guys could have made a little
low like I thought you guys.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Know, so we're by ourselves. We partner with them, the
build out the fast channel, love it.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, that's the idea.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
And I like Dan. I got respect for Dan. I
watched the deal that him and Skipper did with DraftKings
and that greatly affected my deal with Fanduels. So I
got a lot of respect. But a lot of these
older sports media folks aren't the biggest fan of me,
and they've certainly made that known.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
And we've had we've had where you know why, right,
because a lot of them wanted to do what you're
doing now on ESPN.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Yeah, they weren't allowed to, is what it wasn't allowed to?
You think I was allowed to though? Like that's the
whole part of it.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
You had the you had I'm gonna say, Bolls, you
had the confidence in yourself to be able to get
it done without worry about what other people gonna say.
I think it didn't happen for them because they came
in more like, well, I want to do this. You said,
I'm doing this. It'said I want to do this. That's
that's a big difference.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Hey, I'm a fucking asshold of those suits too, Like
they do not like me, But you got to be
it is because when I retired, I had, like I mean, stack,
you knew this because you knew I existed that not
a lot of people outside of Indiana did. When I retired,
I had like like seven hundred and fifty thousand followers.
I had done like twenty seven stand up comedy shows
and theaters with like six thousand seats, and I going

(07:57):
on like a tour, had a podcast, had merch store,
had a chance to do Bob and Tom, which is
here in Indianapolis. So like, I got a chance to
kind of understand the broadcasting waves. ESPN said we got
nothing for you, FOX said we got nothing for you.
Cbsaid we got nothing for you. We don't want to
hear a punter who's been arrested that swears who's an Internet.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Guy kind of guy.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
That's what these suits though did not say that, So
like had to go through the barstool route. But we
kept our own company in Indiana, learned a lot about
the Internet through them. That was like a university of
how digital works. So then as we as I kind
of realized in our boys, we kind of realized, like,
we can do this ourselves. We don't need them. And
then now we're coming back to the point where I'm

(08:42):
negotiating with like Amazon, I'm negotiating with NBC, I'm negotiating
with Apple, I'm negotiating with ESPN. It's like all those
same middle management people five years ago, six years ago
said we got nothing for you, and it's like I
remember that, like you know, and I'm never gonna forget that.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
So it's it's I have the I think I have
the right level of pettiness. There's some unintelligent ship I've
said people that I shouldn't in these negotiations, but I
also got the crew around me where I'm like I
have a safety none if a deal falls through, Like
people are thinking We're gonna get kicked off ESPN this

(09:21):
year already, Like people are already assuming that it's not
gonna work, it's not gonna last, because you know, Aaron
started award with Jimmy Kimmel on our show, Jimmy Kimmel. Obviously,
ABC let her on the COVID stuff calling out Fauci
on our show, Like there was a lot. It got
real the block up, real hot for about three weeks.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
But how do you navigate Obviously Aaron is a good
friend of yours, and but ESPN is you know who
you're working with now, So how do you navigate that?
What's that conversation like between you and Aaron?

Speaker 4 (09:52):
So so ESPN is licensing my show, so it's still
like you yeah, So, like I talked to Shannon Sharp
about this radio row because Club Shashay with Kat obviously
fifty eight and a half million viewers, and there's a
lot of shit set on there about a lot of people,
and I thought, maybe I don't get a much bigger

(10:13):
scale than us obviously with the Aaron stuffy and there
we're on Good Morning America, the Today Show and all
that type of stuff. I said, do you ever cause
like I don't the stuff Aaron's talking about he's very
passionate about. Like Aaron firmly believes that, and there's a
lot of people in the world that believe that. Whether
people hate that or not, that is a fact of life.
So like I don't know that world though, Like I'm
not educated in that world. And there was a lot

(10:34):
of times where I'm like, do I deserve to have
this platform if I don't know everything about everything so
that this shit can't happen, you know, and people don't
end up hating us. So I asked Shannon about that.
I'm like, Shannon, do you feel like whenever something's being
said that you don't know if it's right or not?
Like how much blame are you put on this? Cause
there was like nights I couldn't sleep, Like I'm like,
maybe I am fucking this up completely, And then I

(10:57):
got back to it. It's like we're having conversations with people,
like you can disagree with them completely, but at least
you learn and know where Aaron's at, Like this is
a mount Rushmore quarterback in the history of the NFL.
In real time, you're learning about him completely. I feel
like that's a form of journalism as well, even though
people won't really talk about it. Whenever there's documentaries made

(11:19):
about Aaron Rodgers later in life, which will happen, they're
gonna use so much of our show is that not journalism.
So it's like, although there are wars that we get into,
and Aaron will defend himself, he's a friend of ours,
Aaron does his things. I mean, I'm vaccinated, and in
the middle of the I was getting swore at in
like thirty different languages because Aaron was saying he wasn't

(11:41):
vaccinated and I was the worst human on earth. And
it's like, I think we're just a different style of programming.
Like we're a conversationalist. We have no idea where we're headed.
We don't have scheduled questions. I don't prep anybody when
they're coming on. I don't have a list of questions.
I'm just having a conversation with people. And boy, it
has certainly got us into some ship, but it has

(12:03):
also got us some magic. You know that not a
lot of other pet natal So it's a weird dynamic.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
How do you balance I mean, obviously it's athletes. We
have to have tough skin growing up coming in. But
now we're in this new generation where everyone has a voice,
whether it deserve or not. Be a social media how
do you balance the negativity because although we can say hey,
it doesn't affect us, we hear all of it, all
of it.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
So how do you how do you balance that?

Speaker 3 (12:25):
And like you said, you've had sleepless nights, how do
you flush that ship and able to still focus?

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Honestly, this show called All the Smoke.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, do you have a crack a course course?

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Like what blue Golden Colorado?

Speaker 4 (12:40):
I mean, but I smoke a lot of weed me too, Yeah,
clap to That's that's why I say, pumped from my mother.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Every time weed is said on All the Smoke, we
need to clap. Okay, make that a thing. Some weed
is brought out, wen clap.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
A celebratory but no, like I do, like I think
that's a massive piece of it for me. Like when
I was a junior in college shouts the course shots
of course. Hey, let's get the boys another course deal.
By the way, let's let's get the next one a
big yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
When the mountain on the on the can turns blue,
that's where you know it's cold and it's time to.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Unwind and maybe smoke some weed and smoke some weed. Now,
I was a junior in college. I missed two kicks
in the first quarter of a game. We end up
losing that game by four points. It could have sent
you to the national championship. So I got twenty seven

(13:43):
death threats. Those are old school death threats too. That
was before social media.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
But what are chippers? Did you miss chippers?

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Oh? Yeah, buddy, Oh yeah. Should have went in first
quarter their first quarter, which never gets talked about, had
to lead a halftime, never gets talked about. Certainly my
fault at the end of certainly, Certainly my friend shit
that could have happened, certainly, But I mean I should
have made those kicks, and it would have been a
different life for all of us. But like, I got

(14:11):
like twenty seven old school death threats, like people writing letters,
putting them in a bottle, throwing them at my house
in the middle of the night in Morgantown, West Virginia.
So like I went through something where I really wondered
if like I should be around anyway, like disappearing. Yeah,
I don't know if I would ever like disappear. Yeah,

(14:32):
Like I hopped in my jeep, and I just like
I'm fucking gone. I'm literally out of here. I'm not
going back to school, like I'm done with this. And
it's like my teammates obviously rallied around me, My friends
rallied around me. They brought me back. But I think
like that calloused me a little bit that moment, because
whenever you like think about like life after thinking about disappearing,
like it's a whole new mindset. And then when I

(14:52):
get arrested my second year here in Indianapolis, cops have
their story for why I got arrested. I have mine.
I was walking home. They said I swam in a canal. Nonetheless,
it happened.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Potato a couple of course.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah yeah, maybe some weed, next thing, next thing, you know,
you all.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Allegedly, So then.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
You know, when I get arrested, I get killed again.
So it's like, I feel like I'm pretty calloused. Like
I do feel like I'm calloused. But man, when you
get a lot of people telling you that you're the
worst person on earth and you're ruining things, it's hard.
It's hard not to And uh yeah, so the mute
button's real. I'll mute anybody. I will block some motherfuckers too,

(15:48):
like I am not you talk to them first or
just block them off the rip. It feels like they're
really like got some real ill intent, you know, like hey, what.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
You just said there was it bothered me.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
You were trying really you were trying to kill me.
I'm blocking them. If it's like a good ship talk,
I will entertain it and then I'll see you later.
But it is crazy having to hear all this. I
couldn't even imagine how teenagers are now different. I don't
have a daughter, and like thinking of her nine.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Months, Oh baby girl, Okay, congratulations.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Wife, you're kicking a lot of ass right now. Didn't
think I was ever going to have a kid. I
was all good, she would be a great mom. So
it made it happen, and boy, I love it. But
I couldn't even imagine hearing all the terrible things, Like
if I was a teenager, I wouldn't have been mentally
tough enough for you.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
So it's like it's a crazy.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Time even as an adult. Stuff bothers today, Like people
say stuff, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
I remember we asked Kobe that, you know, like what
hurts you the most? You know when you heard people
talk bad about you said all of it, Like I
heard all of it, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (16:53):
And people think because.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
We're at pro athletes that we're superhuman. We don't feel
hit ship, we don't hear ship. We're just supposed to play,
and it's it's we're human at the end.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Of the day. Yeah, we have eyes, ears, hearts, all
that ship emotions. Yeah, imagine that.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
Pride, empathy, humility, But everybody wants talk about ego. That's
what they're thinking. A lot more people have a lot
of humility than people could ever imagine. And sometimes you know,
some of the ship talkers on the internet are good.
Oh yeah, some of them are really good.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Oh read it.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Damn that was pretty well put together, put together. See
how you would say that? I was thinking the same thing.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
It's been sometimes, I replied, just a good one. That
was a good one. That was a good one.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
Cheers. You should think about changing your name from Boner
Garage to like your actual name. You might have some
talent you think about doing that. That's a good time.
You know that it's a wild place, wild place. It's
a nice room, by the way, isn't it. I like
what you guys are doing. Yeah, yeah, I like what

(17:57):
you guys. I remember been here.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, me neither. It's beautiful. Thank you. Shout out, Foxhole Fox.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
What are you guys doing. You're doing a bunch of stuff.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
I assume just this. And then we got a couple
of shows tomorrow and we're done. We've got to be
there tonight for DraftKings up. Tomorrow's small here too.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
About the DraftKings deal, yeah, okay, exciting. I think it's
good for you as a multi year deal. And what
it allowed us to do was obviously create content with
amazing people under our team. You know, you talked to
Rachel earlier, to Marcus Cousins, Paul Pierce, Rajon Rondo it
t Isaiah Thomas, talking to a few other people, and
then crossing it over trying to get some people in
the women's space, So a big responsibility, but dope. And

(18:35):
then also at the same time, you know, creating, having content,
cross pollinating shows and then building out a studio on Elman.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
So it's you should you guys make really good ship.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Thank you our team, man, thank you our team right there,
our team. Yeah, and any and any you know, advice
A game you can give is you know, we always.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
I only know what works for me, Like this is
the thing, like a million dollars worth of games and
how I mean, what an absolute stallion, you know? And
I watch their stuff. I get inspired by them as well.
I mean some of the clips that just come to
my mind from their show or just will live on
for eternity. And it's like I very much appreciate how
kind people are to me and my guys and they're like, hey,

(19:19):
what did you do? How'd you do it? It's like
we fucked up so much, Like we made so many
mistakes business critical airs decisions, content airs, and like what
works for us isn't necessarily going to work for other.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
People, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (19:32):
Like everybody. And I think this is like marketing agency speak.
I think it started happening a few years ago where
they're like, this client was wondering if you could make
three viral videos for them. It's like we don't fucking know, no, no, no,
nobody knows, like nobody has a clue what's going to
be good. So it's like I appreciate whenever people are

(19:53):
like what do you think? And it's like I don't
have the answers like you guys clearly do though, Like
look at this setup. I was honored in pumped to
get the ass to come onto this show, you know,
like I am a big fan, so I can't wait
to see what you guys do and keep going and
shout out to meadow Lark for seeing what everybody else
is seeing and giving you guys some real like a
safety net to go get it because it's awesome. Yeah yeah, yeah,

(20:18):
you deserve it. You guys deserve it. All. With that
being said, I think you were tank tops. I think
you start, you know.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Coming over said he had his drug dealer out on
some snake skins.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Just yeah, I mean, Stag looks hilarious. I mean, you're
looking phenomenal right now. And this is great. You said
it's Nike, Nike.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Nobody can't believe that.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
So I've been very lucky to go to a lot
of events where you know, NBA folks are and if
you are just a basic ass human, you need to
find something that has got two to three inches on
the heel. Yeah, you know, because the small on on
TV NBA guy is six to five. Yeah, so I
need to add a little hype. Yeah, there's who's that tall?

(21:07):
Who's uh yeah, Jesus Christ walked in here seven foot
seven footer, eight footer going to the bathroom, three foot
dumps and you guys, this place is awesome.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yinsers. What does that mean to you? Pittsburgh?

Speaker 4 (21:26):
Okay, So a yinser is like a white trash person
from Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yinser.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
Okay, Like that's what the in is because you know,
in the South they say y'all yeah, and I think
like eastern Pennsylvania and over there they say ewens. Pittsburgh
it says yeens. So it's like hw EN's doing is
like Pittsburgh talk don instead of down and so it's
like a yinser accent. But basically it means like white

(21:53):
trash from Pittsburgh. So like I happened to be one
of the most uh in my I got two eyes.
That one grew up on my street. One once in
my same high school. I've been friends with them since then.
We are the most insurer fucked, you know. So we
take a lot of pride here representing that city, and

(22:16):
a lot of people get out of Pittsburgh and they
change the way they speak because the insier accent is
so ridiculous you could barely make out most of the words.
We still like one of our shows is called hammer
Don because that is Pittsburgh, the inser for down, So
we take a lot of pride in that. But yeah, like, uh,
that's basically what it means. Is just like a super
Pittsburgh fuck, which is what he is, which we're lucky

(22:39):
to be. Yeah, it is still the city.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
What I found. You already know.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
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Watching the games at home is chilling all but actually
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Speaker 1 (24:11):
You didn't really consider yourself a football player? Why would
you say that at?

Speaker 4 (24:16):
I mean, compare the people that didn't play in the NFL. Okay,
like I would beat their asset everything football? Okay, I
could probably throw football better than them. I can tackle
better than them, I can catch better than them, I
can kick better than them. I'd probably read a defense
better than them. But when you talk about like NFL
guys or like high college football guys, like what they

(24:39):
have to do in the game versus what I have
to do, Oh my god, the day to day my
life is so much better than their, you know, like
the film study, the soreness, the banging, the client like.
And then I'm literally getting better at corn hole, you know,
while they are.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
And that's an art. By the way. I got really good,
are you? I got? Yeah, I'm playing probably a couple
times a year, but I love it.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
But you have to think, like these guys. Just you
hear the legendary stories out of the NFL. This guy
watched more filmmam body else. This guy's fucking in the
meeting room, you know, watching film while they were doing that.
I was in the locker room throwing corn hole. So
like all these legendary tales, this guy watched five hours

(25:26):
of film a day in between practice and workouts. Those
five hours I was throwing the bags. So I'm a
fucking grinder and everything. Yeah, it did not help. My
profession did not help the team. Do not do anything.
But it's hard for me to really you know, like
say that we were anywhere near what every other position
is very much understand I think every specialist understands it.

(25:49):
But it was my way of making a lot of
money in America. Like I had a very strong leg.
I was a good soccer player. Uh, I had ten
x the amount of scholarship for soccer than I did
for football. I played overseas whenever I was a teenager,
Like there had to be a real conversation between my
dad and I. Like to be rich at the time,

(26:09):
and that's all I wanted to be was rich. Which
is why I wanted to be a professional wrestler. Because
I turned on TV on Monday. Those motherfuckers get rich. Yep, exactly,
professional sports, those motherfuckers look rich. Comedians those motherfuckers look rich.
Show hosts, those motherfuckers look rich. So like, everything I'm
doing right now is only because I wanted to be rich. So, like,

(26:29):
what do you want to be when you grow up?
I was asked rich and all these teachers hated it.
They hated it. Kid next to me, I want to
be a teacher. He's a hero, right to this teacher.
This kid over here wants to be a firefighter, Like noble.
I appreciate that, Pat, what do you want to be rich?
That is all that is? That is literally, Bengo, I'm

(26:49):
the worst kid of all time. That is you know,
so like that's kind of how this is all kind
of worked out.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yeah, that is that is.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
My entire life is.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
An urban legend about you want some money and took
yourself to a kicking contest and kind of was able
to establish us.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
So I graduate high school two thousand and five. I
don't know what year you go. Look at your skin,
look at mine.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
You know what they say that we don't count. Bro,
he don't count. Though he don't count. He don't count.
You don't count.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
I'm not saying it. There's something about you guys aging
a lot better than me. So two thousand and five,
in that time, World Series of Poker was huge. It
was on ESPN. We all watched it. There was a
dude named Chris Moneymaker who was just this basic ass

(27:45):
white who I think like blue collar from Middle America
where he became a millionaire overnight. So pretty much every
community that was like mine from what I've learned from
growing up, we all started playing poker because we thought
that was going to be a way for us to
make money and get rich. I became a good poker player.
I'd be playing in my friend's houses. Obviously, it's like

(28:07):
twenty five cent fifty cent blinds, very small and hees
and everything like that. We all thought we were going
to be the next World Series of Poker Champions. But
it was a good way for us to make money
to spend for lunch extras, things like that. I got
a call like a month before signing day that there
was a kicking camp happening down in Miami, Florida by
a guy named Mike McCabe one oh one Kicking. I

(28:27):
was in physics class when the call happened. The guy's
number I still remember to this day because I was
so pumped to receive the call. He called me and
basically said he's putting on a kicking contest in Florida
for all guys that got scholarships. At that point, I
was offered a scholarship to Kent State to be a
field goal kicker because he wanted guys to come compete
against his guys that he coached down in Florida. It

(28:48):
was gonna be a college showcase. It was happening like
the next weekend or something like that. I was pumped
to get invited. I felt like it was a big deal.
He sends over the information it was gonna end up
costing like fifteen hundred bucks. My dad, truck driver went
into working in a warehouse mom secretary, Like, fifteen hundred
bucks in like a four day period is not just

(29:09):
like a feasible thing. Dad, I think told me to
actually go fuck myself, Like, Okay, already have a scholarship
to Kent State at the time too. So it's like,
so let me get this straight. I need to come
up with fifteen hundred bucks for you to go to
Miami to kick to potentially get a scholarship when you
already have a fucking scholarship to Kent State. That's not

(29:30):
gonna happen. So I am somebody I think would prove
to be the case throughout the rest of my life. Like,
let me see if I can make this happen or not.
There is a big game happening that I heard about
from one of my friend's dads in the basement of
an Italian restaurant that in a town that we grew
up in was happening on like a Thursday night or
something like that, and had bigger blinds, bigger annies, bigger pots,

(29:54):
and I thought to myself, maybe I'll be able to
go in there and really do this dumb thought, blindly optimistic,
pretty narcissistic as well, now that I think about it.
When I got a hundred bucks from one of my
friends that has money, I went in there and I
turned it into fourteen hundred bucks. I left at like
three point thirty four am, and I met my dad

(30:15):
when he was getting up, like he was waking up,
and he was like, where the fuck have you been?
And I was like, gave him the money, told him
I need one hundred bucks, went down to the camp,
ended up winning the camp, got a scholarship to West
Virginia the next morning in school.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Yeah, so then I ended up going to West Virginia. Yeah, stupid,
dumbest life of all time. It was Jack's Full of
Nines was the full house that I won the pot on,
and I actually had to hold on to my money
for the night. I was up to like eighteen hundred,
but I was by far the youngest person there and
I didn't want to just get up and bail because
that's not etiquette or smart, you know, in that particular thing.

(30:54):
So I just kind of held on, ended up with
fourteen hundred and the rest is kind of history. But
like you're talking about one of the dumbest situations of
all time. And if that doesn't happen, do I go
to West Virginia? Do I end up in the NFL?
Probably not? Probably not, which means I'm the luckiest fuck
of all time?

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Right, I mean, yeah, I'd about to say, I mean,
you say dumb, I say dope. I mean the fact
that you know that story, in the fact you win it,
you get a scholarship the next day, you end up,
you know, going to West Virginia.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Pat White teams right.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
Oh yeah, he was a monster monster cool dude too.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
Cool Major Harris was before me. Major Harris, great dude,
always around, good times. Major Harris is good times. If
you're in a room with Major Harris, you're gonna be
having a good time. And that's that's the vibes that
our West Virginia team had, though, like Pat, Pat White,
Steve Slayton, then Noel Devine came later. We had a
really tight group, like and Pat White was like the perfect.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Leader, Penny Pitchers, Penny Pitchers of beer.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
Come on, man, back in the day, do you know
you know Chasers? You know, Chasers and Dreams. That was
the name of the The Good Old Days club Z
is another place I used to frequent. There was a
place called Lazy Lizard. I got out loans when I
was in college. I was on full scholarship, which is
absurd to kick a football the So my parents we've
talked about this. Not a lot of money and there's

(32:17):
no nil back in the day, not that I would
have got in anyways, but like there was nothing. So
you get that per diem or whatever. It was like
eight hundred bucks for the month.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
But you did. You feel good? Though? He was supposed
to stretch it out, but that shit was going on
like three or.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
Four days, and rent is happening. What are we even doing?
So I got out these loans at like twenty two
percent interest, forty thousand dollars and loans just to have
a good time, and I just to and I did,
and I did, And I should have focused more on
kicking balls in Morgantown, but boy, I had an absolute
blast there.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
I think college, I mean, Jack didn't get a chance
to go to college. I felt like college. I had
a blast in the NBA, but college was a fucking blast,
great time, love so much fun. Loved it, passing out
drunk in Westwood and going getting free drinks at bars
and just having the run of the little the little college.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
It was dope.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
I didn't know you were living like that.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
It went hard, smoking weed, passing out, having pulled Jirwan
out of gutters. When we play Syracuse, the number one
team in the country on ABC the next morning, like unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
Hell yeah, yeah, he said, hell yeah, that was the
old days.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Yeah, right before cameras, Like, no, you know, it was
just if you're there, you saw it. It's not it's
an urban legend.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
Everything else is. Remember I've heard a lot of stories
about me, and I'm like, I don't know if that's
how that went, but if that's how you remember it,
probably that is. But that was I just thought to myself,
if I don't make it to the NFL, I'll be
in debt like all these other motherfuckers in college. And
if I do make to the NFL, hopefully I'll be
able to pay this off. And uh yeah, it was money. Well,
spent I think money.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
When did when did the NFL be you know, really
start thinking like I can I can do this for
a living.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
First time I kicked the football, I kicked sixty five
year field goal?

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Oh ship, yeah really we kicked what.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
I've had a cannon? This thing actual that?

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
Because I didn't play I think a big part of
a lot of things, Like the reason why I'm friends
with Stack and the reason why I know a lot
of people is because I was so fucking horrendous at
video games. So like, I'm a terrible video game player.
My brother got all the talent, like I am so bad.
So I would go out like, hey, do you want
to go do this?

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (34:22):
Like where other guys might stay home and play video games.
Hey you want to go to Sunset h Yeah, I
do want to go to Sunset Do you want to
go to Cloud nine?

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (34:30):
I do want to go to Cloud nine? Yeah? Like
do you want to go to all these places? Yes?
Because I didn't play video games. So when I was
growing up, I didn't play video games. I have add
so I literally would either be out and about with
everybody else or I would just kick a soccer ball
against the side of my house for like hours and
hours and hours, and I was infatuating with having the
strongest leg. So when I was a kid, I actually

(34:53):
kicked a soccer ball broke a goalie's fucking arm, and
I thought that was the coolest thing of all time. Like,
I thought that was really cool. And then I saw
David Beckham in the World Cup. I think he kicked
the ball like ninety some miles an hour. They talked
about and I was like, that's sweet. Like I want
to be able to kick the ball as hard as
I can. So I literally just would kick the ball
against the side of my house hours hours hours, thump thump, thump, thumph,

(35:16):
break a fucking window. Tim McAfee's pissed, Sally mcfee's, man,
let's fix the window. Let's kick the ball again, you know,
like that is that is literally what I did. But
like soccer was supposed to be the thing. Soccer was
supposed to be the thing. So then whenever I like
I won the punt passing kick, Yeah, and I murdered

(35:37):
this ball. I just murdered it. So then I went
to a football field we had soccer practice and there
was a kicking camp happening and I grew up in
an NFL town in Pittsburgh, and anybody that's fan of football,
those kickers are nerds, you know. So like at that time,
I go give me one of those balls, nerd like
actually set it to the kickers that they were there,
and I just my swing was just a natural swing

(36:00):
for it, and I kicked like sixty yarder. I think
the first time I kicked the ball, and it was
at that moment everybody was like, oh, there might be
some business in this one here, and uh that really
changed everything. So like literally the first time I kicked
the ball was when I was like, hey, we could
probably make a little money off. Had to get real lucky.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, a lot of luck goes into it. Everything, a
lot of luck goes into it.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Right, seventh round draft pick, but you go to an
amazing Colts team. Peyton Manning, Reggy, Wayne Joseph died, Dwight Freemy.
What are your what's your first NFL memory?

Speaker 4 (36:33):
So I know I did have a punt when I
got drafted to punt.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
You got that's right, Yeah, So I got.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Drafted a punt in college. We did this like Azsie
punt where you would run I would run to the right,
and then I would like just hit it and then
it would roll on the ground. So it was like
cheating pretty much. You know, they wouldn't be able to
return it. You just kind of stole it. NFL punting
is you have to like punt it ship in the air, right,
So I think the first memory I had was I

(36:58):
had to learn how to punt, right. I just got
drafted in the NFL to do this. I gotta learn that.
And then as soon as I got into the locker room,
I just like how cool everybody was, Like you listed
off all those dudes right there, legends. Those are all
absolute legends. And literally from day one, all those people
were cool with me and nice to me. And I'm
a punter and I was not good like and they
saw me in like training camp, in a rookie camp.

(37:22):
I was not good at punting balls. And Hunter Smith
was the punter here and he was here for like
eleven years, be loved by the city, be loved by
the locker room, and they caught him for me, so
and I didn't know how to punt. He's super religious.
He's in like a Christian music.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Band, like sounds like Jack exactly.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
Exactly like him. We're talking polar opposite human of me
pretty much, and everybody was cool. So I just think
my first memory was walking in the locker room thinking
I was going to be scared to death and everybody
being cool. I think that's probably it.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Peyton Manning off the field obviously kind of. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Jack was telling me stories back in the day about
like Peyton man He's like, you ever go to ten
roof with them?

Speaker 4 (38:04):
You ever been in ten roof with him?

Speaker 1 (38:06):
No?

Speaker 4 (38:08):
No, not ten roof? What's this place done? Here? Slipper noodle?

Speaker 1 (38:11):
No?

Speaker 4 (38:13):
I mean he just like, I don't think he knows
he's Peyton Manning. That was the problem.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
The story I told him is that's why, Yeah, he
does not walk around like he's Payton.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
Man And since he's like six or seven years old,
they've been telling him he's gonna be an NFL guy.
You know, they have like a reboot commercial from when
him and Eli were kids basically say like these are
the next guys. Somehow he's just remained a human. I
don't know how he's remained a human. Now in the building,
he's quarterback, GM owner, coach if he wants to be,
and there will be times where he will exercise his

(38:44):
right to do all of those things if he thinks
it's in the best interest of the team. But like
off the field as a teammate, he took a lot
of pride in being a human, you know, Like he
invited me to a lot of things. When you're talking
about like drinking beers with the boys, like he was
about that, like and it was. He took care of me.
He helped me out a lot business wise. He's helped
me out a lot. He's given me a lot of

(39:05):
opportunities too, So like I am forever and thenn yeah,
shut up, massive fucking head though like that, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Huge?

Speaker 4 (39:20):
He has no idea who he is.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
That is the thought.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
I went on a golfing trip with him like two
years and I like to think that I run my
own business, and obviously he has like ten businesses. You know,
he's got some whiskey, he's got omaha, he's coaching his
kids games, he's doing all these things. We went on
a golf trip and he invited me on, which is
really cool. And you weren't allowed to use your phone
at this particular place where you're golfing at okay. So

(39:45):
as soon as we got to like the afterwards when
you have your phone, he had like sixty emails or whatever,
and for me, I had like probably forty emails as
well for business stuff. And I scrolled through him. I'm like,
they really want something that will email me again? You know,
like that Mark these is red. I'm out of here.
He responded to every fucking email. You're talking about, being

(40:05):
diligent in every company that he has. We're talking hands on,
thinking about everything, like he is just a robot. He's
an alien. He might not be from here, and very
very lucky that I got to be honest.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Absolutely, how did wrestling come about?

Speaker 4 (40:21):
It's awesome, isn't it. Oh Man, there's a bunch of
marks over here. I think I saw him brought a
couple wrestling marks. I'm wrestling Mark. Yeah. I hate those
people because they praay on like our fans too, you know, yeah,
because I don't like to charge my fans for anything.
I try to make sure my show. My show is free.

(40:43):
Like we haven't even sold tickets since COVID for people
because we don't want people to feel obligated to spend money.
I don't promote our merch store. Ever, because I don't
want people to feel obligated to spend money, Like just
their time and their like thought that they'll support us
by watching is enough for me. So like these autograph hounds,
like because I don't sign a lot of stuff, like

(41:06):
they'll charge the shit out of my fans. My fans
are buying, I'm thinking that it's good. Like so I
feel bad. I feel torn, like I appreciate these people,
but also like they're working in this whole thing. The
wrestling world has the most amount of like hustlers, I'll
say around it. Yeah, I'm a wrestling. Mark grew up
as a wrestling fan. We talked about Monday Night Ros,
the Monday Night Wars like it was everything that I liked.

(41:27):
I liked talking shit, I liked I liked athleticism, I
liked the drama. I liked the comedy. I also grew
up in the Attitude era with Stone Cold and The Rock.
The Rock being back right now is awesome, absolutely awesome.
I drank beers with Stone Cold last year in Dallas.
Shout out to Texas, like I had a I've been

(41:47):
living a dream. But it literally just all comes from
me watching as a kid, being a diehard fan and
continue to watch for my whole life. So anytime I
get to do anything with them, I'm pumped. My move
I punt, I pump people, pun pun the soul out
of it. Punt the soul out.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Any chance we'll see you in WrestleMania in Philly.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
I don't know, dude. So I got a lot of
science pumping through me right now. You know, when you retire,
I said, hey, I want that rich guy stuff. You know,
what are these rich guys taken that I see on Instagram?
That are all?

Speaker 1 (42:19):
You know?

Speaker 4 (42:19):
Don't get fat? Like, I don't know how it works
because with my particular build, if I eat pizza four times,
fat ass, Okay, fat ass? And the football season is long,
and every year I've gained like fifty to sixty pounds
since retiring. So this year I'm like, I'm gonna get

(42:41):
on the rich guy stuff that cheats and keeps me thin,
not as full as the Ozempic move. But I'm not
against it.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
I will.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
I will head to that route in a couple of years.
If so, I'm on a bunch of stuff.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Is it long term? Anything? Long term? Do you understand?
Like the outcome of that.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
Not a clue. You're fucking honest, you know, Am I
gonna die? Who knows? Probably? They say everybody is. But
is this one gonna take years off my life? Maybe?
But what's that gonna happen anyways? We don't know.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
You know.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
I've always said too, if I have something that's gonna
kill me, that we might be able to have a
cure for someday. I would like to be frozen until
we find the cure. Bring my ass back twenty one,
twenty twenty years in there. Think about me getting dropped
in that society, I'll be fucking pumped.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Up about it.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
Well, that being said, I don't think I could pass
any drum tests for a WrestleMania Yeah, because of drum
test people. So that's real, dude. Oh yeah yeah. And
I'm on everything I think they're testing for.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
They tested about it, everything but the right shit. Yeah?
Oh man?

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Uh ultimate goal in this media space, I mean you
pretty much have it, you know, doing what you want
to do, and you brought your people along, which we
always love and respect.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
But what's your ultimate goal in is you don't know? Yeah,
join it as it goes Enjoin it?

Speaker 4 (44:05):
Yeah, I don't know. I have no idea. Like every
step that we've hit is cool, you know, like the
next step is cool. Like I mean I negotiated a
one hundred and some million dollar contracts, right, that was cool?
That was really cool. Than we yeah we get to clap,
but that was like a cool moment that I could

(44:25):
have never fathomed in my entire life. And then you
talk about the boys like I gave them backpacks with
like two hundred and fifty thousand dollars of me, Like
that's a that's cool. That's a cool thing that I
could have never Yeah, we're running like a fifteen thank you,
thank you. We wait wait wait wait, But like I
don't know, man, I have no idea, because who knows

(44:46):
what the media space looks like a year from now.
Who knows what our show looks like a year from now.
Everybody talks about being a chess player, chess player, chess player,
Like I'm checkers, man, I'm just trying to get over
you get to the next one and then king me
bitch right at the end, and I'm coming back.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
But but but perhaps to you, you are helping dictate
what is going to be in the future. You're a
big part of what is going to be, so you
help you helping dictate what this space is going to be.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
You think you realize that in the moment, you know,
we don't. You know, you guys don't realize it. We
don't realize it that we are shaping what's next.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
Yes, you are, you too, I should not be, but
you are.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
But you are, and and all bullshit aside. He just
said that you and you know you are. You shot
the biggest faces in this right now. So you need
to accept that, bro, because your hard work puts you. Yeah,
and so and we when we giving your props because
we in the space too, but we've seen what you've
done and what you're doing.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
Of course, I really, really genuinely appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Now.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
Granted, do you just put like, I don't know what,
a lot of pressure.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can handle it.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
You can handle it. You can handle it.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
What is it right now?

Speaker 4 (45:57):
I appreciate that, and I do think every decision that
I make, and I'm not saying I'm making decisions for
anybody else, I am making decisions for our company to
continue to survive and hopefully other companies that are like
ours in the future to be able to do it,
you know, that's what the decisions are happening. But I

(46:17):
also think like there's a lot of things that if
anybody else was in my spot, they would be doing
the exact same thing. Like there's a lot of common
sense shit that just doesn't make any sense that is
happening in the sports bullshit.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Common sense. That's my way.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
They know, that's my word. I'm first team all common sense.
The world has lost that, but go ahead.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
Well, not just the world, people that are in positions
of power in a lot of businesses, more specifically for
this particular conversation, the sports media world, there's a lot
of idiots that are making a lot of decisions. And
those idiots made a lot of money for a long
time doing something in one particular fashion, so they're going
to hang on to that.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
For as long as they possible you can.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
And there is other stuff happening very quickly, and tomorrow
is meeting today at a rate that I think we
all are expecting. But I think there's a relationship between
what used to be in the future that can still coexist.
And I think from my standpoint, I have tried to

(47:18):
extend an olive branch to the olds, you know, to
say like, hey, this is what we've seen to be success,
but what they have done in return is like not
the case. So whenever we do break through on something,
I do take a lot of pride in the fact
that like, Okay, somebody else is probably going to be
able to say that this is how it should be
because now there's a precedent. But I'm not saying I'm

(47:39):
the only one that's done this. Like obviously, like Joe
Rogan's deal with Spotify huge, like that was fantastic, you know,
even like Mike Florio with Pro Football Talk, he sold
his company like two different times, both the ESPN and
then the NBC. Like there's a lot Barstool Sports. What
they've been able to do in the business that they've
been able to It's like there's a lot of people

(48:01):
before me. So whenever people were like, hey, you're doing this,
you're doing that, it's like I appreciate that, and I
do feel like I've made some gains in some places
that needed it. But like it's inevitable. It is inevitable,
and we're lucky to be here at the time that
it is.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
Take us to the journey quickly, you know, Barstool fan duel,
and then eventually to where you're at with ESPN now,
because like I said, you went places, but we're able
to keep it yours and we're able to get up
and move and get other deals in the process. But
talk to us about the journey of those three companies.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
So whenever I was playing, I followed along with Barstool
because I was a fan of Big Cat. Obviously followed
Caleb and Dave and Hank, and I don't think PFT
had joined there yet, but I had known a PFT
and his big brain. And you know, if you're an
internet like I had a merch store or podcast, I
was doing that. I was a digital company, so I
was watching what they were doing. And whenever I retired

(48:51):
or was going to retire, none of those networks wanted me.
So like Dave was the first one to really reach
out and be like, hey, we just got an investment
from the Churning Group, we have some money. When he retire,
we'd love to talk, and we kind of chit chatted.
I didn't want to move to New York. I wanted
to stay in Indianapolis because I thought I had a
good connection here, a good network here. I love living here.

(49:12):
I don't like I don't want to live in a
big city, Like I really wanted to stay here. So
we had like a satellite company almost, and I got
to learn and watch while still running our own thing.
And then whenever we broke off, it was like all right,
here we go. And I'd been running my own company
and my own show, and Fandor just became our exclusive
sports book. So they didn't own my company, they didn't

(49:35):
own the show. They were just our sports book. Just
like if COR's Laute was our beer, they would be
our exclusive beer. Fanda was our exclusive sports book. But
with that relationship, because of the people we knew over there,
we're able to create promos and do things and kind
of learn about that world and learn about marketing. And
then I just got to the point where I wanted

(49:57):
my life to be easier, Like we're looking, we're selling
the ads, we're creating. If we want to do a
live show like this, we would have to be the
ones that would book the local camera people, the local hands.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
To build it.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
Like I just kind of got it to a point
where I was I think we all were sick of
doing all of the bullshit, so we wanted a little
bit of help, so decided I'm going to take the
show to a network and ended up getting a deal
done with Jimmy Pataro and Bob Iger and you know,
license a show to them, and they've helped out immensely.
I mean the access in the production, Like we were

(50:36):
alive in ten different college towns. That would have cost me,
I don't know, maybe forty hours of fucking work, but
ESPN just kind of took care of it. It's like
they've made my life easier, They've made our access a
lot easier. And yeah, I still retain one hundred percent
rights and creative freedom and ownership on my show, but
like they're an incredible partner and I'm lucky to be there.

(50:57):
There's a lot of middle management there though.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
That I mean, I mean we don't have to even
speak names, but you spoke a name and called out
someone a suit that you felt like was kind of
yeah for real, Yeah, I mean the courage to do that,
and and you got a lot of you already had respect,
but even more respect for doing that. Has there been
any backlash, any conversation, like, because like you said, there

(51:20):
is a give and take and and it's given and
a tug between what people hung their hats on for
years and made a lot of money and what is
coming and what's what it's going to be.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
I don't know if there was any conversations that happened
behind uh obviously, So you know, like I thought that
was a warning shot to that guy.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
You know, I didn't even think that was direct.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Yeah, because I'm the I'm the executive producer of my show.
I report directly to Jimmy and Bob, So I'm not
really viewing anybody as like I saw everybody, Like Pat
calls out his boss, I don't got a motherfucker boss.
What do we you know, Like what do we Jim Pear,

(52:04):
we talk to Jimmy Patarro or Bob Eigert, Like is
that who we're talking about? Because those are people that
could technically be described as my boss, and like Burke
Magnus as well, and have a great relationship with him.
But I think even Burke would say like yeah, like
we have a good relate, like we are talking like
this as opposed to like this, And so that was

(52:26):
just a warning shop too. I thought a person that was,
you know, at the same which is hilarious because he's
the former president of the place. I guess a lot
of people, we have a lot of fear of them.
I did not, like, I do not have I that guy.
That guy left me sitting in his office for forty
five minutes. No showed me when I was supposed to
have a meeting with him, right when five years ago,

(52:46):
six years ago, whatever show, No showed Yeah. Wow, yeah,
so you remember that, what's that? And you remember that
it's things a fucking elephant?

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Brandy?

Speaker 4 (52:55):
Yeah, yeah, I am yeah, Yeah, I got everybody's Yeah.
He also banned all my friends from coming on my show.
So there was a ban of ESPN talent on my
show on YouTube that came directly from him, which so
much show that I started a hashtag ESPN stinks. The
day that everybody got banned from my show, you know,

(53:17):
only trended for like eight nine hours or something like that.
And then that's the next day is when I met
Jimmy Patarro. Jimmy Patarro called me and said like, hey,
how do we you know, what's the deal? And I
told him about you guys are banning my friends from
coming on my show, Matt Hasselback who worked at ESPN,
Jeff Pass and worked at ESPN. Dan Orlovski worked at ESPN.
All these people that I've known since before they got

(53:39):
into ESPN. Like they're not even allowed to come on
my podcast or whatever or my YouTube show. You guys
banned it, so like that guy was not a fan
of me or our operation for a long time. So
then whenever ESPN signs us and he runs sports Center
and our show is now in place of Sports Center
at noon. I'm a fan of Sports Center. We all

(54:01):
watch Sports Center. I grew up on. But there became
like a war almost from behind scenes from like Sports
Center people and like people that have been in ESPN
a long time against US coming in and taking their
jobs and all this other shit. And I didn't see
it like that. We were like pumped that we made

(54:22):
it to the big leagues. Like, hey, I'm pumped We're
on the worldwide Like that's how I viewed it. And
this is what I'm talking about, playing a checkers player,
like get the ESPN deal done. I'm like, this is awesome,
Like we joined the ESPN team, so lucky to be here.
We get access and then immediately it's like this guy sucks,
this guy's ruining ESPN, and it's not coming for people
outside of ESPN. It was coming from people within ESPN,

(54:44):
and I did not expect that at all. So immediately like, okay,
I'm in war, Like that's what if that's what we're doing.
We're in war. And then once you start learning about
how shit's going behind scenes, things that are being said
to people, things that are being leaked, the timing in
which they're being leaked, it's like, oh, they're trying to
kill me. Like they're trying to They're trying to make
our show impossible to advertise with, They're trying to make

(55:04):
sure people don't watch our show. So like, as I
started learning that, I'm like, all right, well that's not
gonna I don't know how this has gone in the
past with other people, but yeah, this particular white trash
kid from Pittsburgh like, hey, suits, this ain't this is
not how this is going to go. So that was
just a warning shot I didn't that wasn't even like
supposed to be. And then obviously it goes big and

(55:27):
I heard from this is no lie, no less than
like forty people that have worked at ESPN or used
to work at ESPN, and they were like, thank you
for saying what you said, And I was like, well,
if I really crafted a statement about that, I mean,
I could have said something much better. But I also
did not appreciate the thing I didn't think about once again,
Checkers player. I did not expect the backlash afterwards. Like

(55:50):
Burke Magnus just became the president of Content at ESPN.
I think he has a great vision for what the
future of sports media should look like. He was a
big part of us joining ESPN. People were attacking Burke
because it made him look sloppy, because it's inside the building.
People are attacking Jimmy because it looked sloppy, And that
was something that I did not think about. I was
very apologetic about, like I didn't mean to take down

(56:12):
my allies or make allies look bad in the whole thing.
But I genuinely did not expect it to get as
big as it did, because I didn't think I said
anything that was like that crazy or like I'm a
pretty good talker, you know, I'm a pretty good promo cutter.
Like if I really wanted to saw motherfucker down, like
I thought, I could have done it in a much

(56:34):
bigger way, and I did not. So I was actually
like pretty proud of myself. I was like, look at me,
I'm an adult. And then it got loud. I'm an
I'm an adult, and it got real loud. It got
real loud. But yeah, that'll be me forever, and it'll
be a gift in a curse.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
We appreciate and respect it.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
Petty.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Yeah, there it is right here, quick hitters, finishing up
the show. First thing to come to mind. Top five
Special team players and in a tel history Top.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Five special teams. Okay, so I gotta have my guy
on here.

Speaker 4 (57:05):
We've got Adam Vicitarry on there. Okay, we'll have Justin
Tucker on there, Brandon Slater on there from the Patriots,
Devin Hester.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Chicago, be on there.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
Who's yours? Who's your guy?

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Let you go? I'm gonna let you go. Five, Dante Hall,
Bill Bates.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
Okay, yeah, Bill Bates and talking. But I will put
Bill I do not, but he's on my list.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
He was the animal special Yeah, I agree, Bill Bates
was that dog.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
Ud putting Bill Bates at five Bill Bates, No, he's
a monster. Bill Bates is a monster, that guy when
he was on the field Man, he was the guy.
But then like Shane Leckler's in there as well because
he was so good. Mike Ciphers, Yeah, there's a bunch.
There's a bunch of hell Yeah, congrats Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Ye made it as well.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
Yes, Freenie made it. Reggie needs make it next year. Yeah, Vin,
he's up next year first time. Yes, agreed.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Dream interview our guest on your show that you would
like to have. Mm hm hmmm.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
So Roger Goodell is scared to come on the show.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Okay, I kind of see it, see what.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
But yeah, he has never said he's scared. But that's
just my whole angle. Hopefully I'll be able to bait
him into coming on the show. You know. I had
to start openly calling him out and saying he was
scared because he was doing a lot of interviews. He's
going on a lot of shows. We put a request
in like every week for the last like five years
to have him on the show. And Brian McCarthy, I think,
is the nfl PR guy. He knows of us, you know.
So Roger Goodell coming on the show would be good.

(58:50):
But that's going to be in person, you know, because
you know, we have some questions. But Roger Goodell is
like the greatest speaker of all time, which is always
my thing to him, like, hey, don't be scared, Rock,
don't be scared. You're a guy that can dance. But
I have great admiration for the work that he's done
as a businessman for the NFL and what he's been
able to guide the NFL through. So I think the

(59:11):
conversation with Roger Gell would be dope. And I mean
that would be because I think he's an actual alien.
That's a whole other conversation is that motherfucker's not from here.
He even builds his own rocket ships to go to space.
He's doing it right in front of us, our face.
He's doing it right in front of our face.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:32):
I was wondering if we could do a ghead and
plug a chip in your fucking brain. No you can't.
And he's like, well, I got these rocket ships to
go to space. It's like okay. And then he's digging
tunnels better than anybody in history, right, better than anybody
in his.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Making the Mexican drug cartels look like child's play.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
Hey, what's his face? Getting out of that jail hopping
on a motors They said, he hopped on a motorcycle
with lighting down the.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Entire t As they passed these light they bust them
so nobody couldn't follow them.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Somebody could follow, You're right.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
I mean there's some great tunnel builders out there, childhood crush,
you know, Kelly kowski Y. They probably saved by the Yeah,
I think I watched.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
By the bells.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
See, I think that's yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
I think that would probably be Tiffany em that's her name, right, see,
you know, yeah, yeah, she saved by the bat and
then she went to Beverly Hills nine and two.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
And no, see, I didn't make the transition.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
They wanted to be one. I didn't. He tried out
for it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
You know what Screech made, transition into slinging Dick. Screech
didn't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Rest in peace to the Screechsts.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
Very dead, very dead, Dick, rest in peace. He did though.
That was his thing.

Speaker 5 (01:00:55):
Great transition, not like Drake. But I did you know,
different level scores like dude, oh goodness, what's your guilty pleasure?
Pat watching people slang dicky.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
Face. That Drake thing was messed up, wasn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
I didn't see it, Yes, you did.

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
It was in everybody's algorithm like that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
By the time I saw it, it was blurred out.
So I'm I'm glad I missed the beginning together.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
Well, it was a massive blur, is what we're That's
what we're talking.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
About, Drake's dick pic. I'm glad I didn't see that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
Your algorithm is taking care of you, because I want
to let you know it in your face. I woke
up to take my morning ship, just basic morning ship.
That's all I'm doing. What's going on the internet, you know,
open it up? Drake, Well, I guess I don't think
he did nobody well after watching a video. I mean

(01:01:54):
he probably did.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
I mean that was that's just too strategic.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
Anyways, the internet's wild right now. Guilty pleasure. I don't honestly,
I uh, I work. I don't know that kind of
It's kind of bumming me out now now I'm thinking
about my hobbies and shit, I don't really have any
I should pick them up, I don't know. Just work, man.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
What's the grind? What's your work week? Like?

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
What's a what's an average Monday through Friday. How many
hours you putting in a week, I.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
Don't know, and calling it work as a job too,
by the way, but you get it, like showing up
and trying to profit off of stuff. The I'll wake up,
you know, got a baby, so wake up when she's up,
like six thirty ish, see baby for forty five minutes
or so, hang out, let her know I exist, Then

(01:02:50):
head into Thunderdome, get a workout in, and I probably
have like three zoom calls in the morning, depending upon
future ad deals, maybe scheming with companies that were already
with and everything like that. Then we're planning show, and

(01:03:11):
the show plan is just like group text pretty much.
We don't have a block B, block C block. We're
way too. It's a three hour promo. We're just three
hours of shit talking and anything that shows up in
our group text could come up on the show. So
like the boys just kind of have to know, like
to be on our show. And it's why I'm so
thankful for our guys. Like anything that shows up in

(01:03:33):
the group text, which is active all day all night,
like could come up like if I just in my head,
oh wait, didn't I see something? And then boom, we're
right into a conversation about it. So that's like probably
the last two hours before we go live at noon,
noon to three, three thirty four. We got the show,
probably a couple of meetings afterwards, and I'm out of
there like six, six thirty seven. Then the game days

(01:03:56):
on Saturday during the football season, and then Monday Night
raw Is on Monday nights. After the show, I'll fly
to wherever Monday Night raw Is, fly back to Indie
for show Tuesday morning, and then kind of put that
on repeat.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
You know, his home here, his home. Oh yeah, okay,
everything's based out here. I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
Yeah, I don't you know. I drove down here. Is
supposed to take twenty seven minutes. It took like an
hour because the snowstorm.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
A little bit. Yeah, we appreciate you making time.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
No, but like this is when this happens, you think
to yourself, why do I lived in Indianapolis?

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
Lake Lake, Lake, Lake Lake, Like easy, by Jesus, you
want my fucking address stack?

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
The city is huge.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
Yeah, I'm not in Carnble. Lot of suits at Carmel, definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
One day off offense, beautiful place.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
One thing you wish you were better at.

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
As crazy as it sounds like communication, so like I
might show him good business, good you know, but I
think my wife would tell me that I could be better.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
I think, like I tell the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
I get paid to talk all day, and I need
to learn how to communicate better with her.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
It's funny you said that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
Yeah, it's like her, and like, you know, like there's
so many different chapters and eras of my life. It's
like if I see people from my past, it'll be
like we never missed a day. But like I'm not
good at like keeping up with people, you know, like
I get so wrapped up in work, in what I'm doing.

(01:05:31):
I'm not good at like keeping in touch with people
that I genuinely care about, you know, like people that
I don't really see often and aren't in my sphere
on a regular basis. Like I'm not good at sending
like hey, what's up? You know, Like I like posts
on the internet, and like in my eyes, I'll like

(01:05:52):
be like see like I'm paying I want them to
know like I still appreciate them. But I think I
could be a much better like personal community in my life.
And uh, I think enjoying life a little bit more
like I enjoy my work, but like I'm always on
my phone when I'm home, Like I try my best
to be present, like I do, but like all that shit,

(01:06:15):
like being a human a little bit better.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
I think I would like to get get on our
hamster wheels and get going.

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
It's crazy, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're talking about any counseling. It's a
session right here. But for real, it's funny saying.

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
Okay, so you go to counseling. I'm scared to go
because it's all working for me. I don't want to change.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
I don't think it's about what's not working. It's just
working and finding the tools to be able to make
what you're looking for work.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
You know, how do you balance that? How do you
communicate that? How do you how are you present in
the moment?

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
Because I'm good at like right now, like I'm great,
I'm having.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
The best now.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
We literally just had this in our counseling, Like I
get paid a lot of money to talk to the world,
but have issues talking to the people I love the most.

Speaker 4 (01:06:53):
Yeah, and like I always feel like I'm gonna interrupt them,
like I don't want to, you know, like that whole thing.
So okay, so I should think about maybe talking to somebody.
How about this ayahuasca?

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Like that I go talk to somebody, Well, that's who
they talking to day problems, that's why somebody with problems.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
And are they taking? Are they taking? And my problem
is really just lay away with that person. They're taking
up to somebody else and then they're bringing it back.
I've got but ayahuasca. I'm scared to death.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
I want to try that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:22):
Yeah, but like reset your brain. I'm like I'm in
a good spot, like my brain need to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Need to reset.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
Stack. You do not look cool? You look cool.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
You look I'm gonna get your prerogator booth.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
I need to get your number after this, pat me
get Jackson case cases.

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah Texas right out here.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
I got that out of the.

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
What's that place to go?

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Down there? And the boot barn?

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
Come on, man, pull it, pull it put stockyards.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Stock Okay, you spot though, I'm telling you.

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
I was with a couple of barns down there. I
don't know which one was the boot one. There's a
lot of barn there's a lot of barns down there.
I got a cowboy hat, I got a belt buckle,
I got these fucking boots. I mean I was Yeah,
I was really in there. I was really in there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
One guess you would like to see on all the smoke,
But you have to help us get your answer on
the show.

Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
Oh, some booking for you guys, just one time.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
I mean it's not like it's not like you're it's
it's not like you're busy booking your own ship.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
But yeah, one time for us.

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
Hey, not a bad, Hey, not a bad, A bad
little quick hitter. Hey, who you're booking on our show?
I think Aaron would love the show. Has he been on.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
He hasn't yet.

Speaker 4 (01:08:43):
I think he would love yea, I will drop the
word right. I think Peyton would be.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
Good on the one because I definitely want to talk
to about the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Hey, he's got the answer, they got that, they got
told they got some.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
I want to try the back of the toad.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Have you talked to Mike Tyson never? Yeah, he's I
think you guys would vibe Okay. I don't want to
shoo myself, so yeah, I don't want to do that.
I don't want to get high and shipped on myself.
You talk about to told I heard it's coming basement
in Adam.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Now I'm cool. I'm cool. I just put a dip.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
I think you and Mike you're trying to hit this.
I think the I don't know which dimension you're trying
to get to. But boy, I heard once you bust
through four, you know, because we're in the third one, right, Yeah,
once you bust through four. From what I've been told,
you're really living up there. From what I've been told,
seventhethh demension. Yeah, I don't want to go that high though. No, yeah,
you're fucking yeah Cloud ten. They said, maybe you mentioned ten.

(01:09:41):
You're up there. Mike Tyson though, yeah, so obviously you
know Mike Tyson's fucking Mike Tyson. So like, I know
who Mike Tyson is, and I think everything that he
has done to kind of like bounce I don't say
bounce back, but like, yeah, is so fair, fantastic, inspiring Austin.

(01:10:01):
Like when he starts talking, I love listening because I
think what a lot of people forget is like there's
not a lot of Mike Tyson's in a word like Kobe's.
There's only a few cobms that have ever existed you
know you talk about like MJ. Kobe, those people, Mike
Tyson's up in there, Serena Williams, He's up in that
like up in those levels. So when that person speaking,

(01:10:23):
I am going to be listening, like that is Tom Brady,
Peyton Manning, like those fuckers that are up there. Like
so Mike in the way he's been so transparent and
authentic and everything he's done. Obviously I have become a
massive fan of his. So when I do the SP's.
That happened like two days beforehand. It was decided that

(01:10:43):
I was going to do the SP's because they didn't
have a host because there was a writer's strike going
on everything like that. So Jimmy Pittar and I were
talking and it came up, and he basically said, like,
I forget how it came up, but it was announced
moments before. I talked to Jimmy Tarro that there was
gonna be no host for the SP's, like literally moments before.

(01:11:04):
So I brought it up and he was like, yeah,
we don't have and I said, that'd be easy work.
I said to Jimmy, that'ld be easy work. You know,
it's like stand up for ten minutes, and the SP's like,
that's easy. It's like two days from now though, he said,
like it's like in two days or whatever. I'm like,
easy work, no problem at all. I was like, if
you guys want me to do it, I would love
to do it. I'd be honored to do it. And
Jimmy goes, okay, let's do it. I was like deal.

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So they tell the person running the SP's his name's Connorshell.
Used to work at ESPN. Connorshell. Now he left ESPN
and he has a production company that does the SP's
and NFL honors. He was not necessarily as pumped that
I was gonna be okay, he was not necessarily as
pumped as I was to get to do the opportunity.

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So they wanted me to send over what my open
was going to be, you know, so they could punch
it up, put some jokes in and everything like make
it better. So no far chance am I sending over
what I'm actually gonna say to these people. So I
type up a big fake.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Speech.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
I type up a fake speech. Took me seventy five
minutes to type up this fake speech. But in the
fake speech had all the beats because I knew like
camera people would want to know potentially who we could shoot,
so like tomorrow, obviously I'm gonna talk about tomorrow. I
want to talk about these people. So I make fake
speech but put the people that wouldn't even be Like

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I felt very proud of what I did.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
I was like, it's good.

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
I'm I'm doing it. Boys, you know, the boys were
helping me.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:12:35):
It was It was a pretty cool thing. So that
whole story behind the scenes of the SP's is a
that is awesome. That is awesome. It involves me saying
I don't care what you say, Like I'm gonna go
out there and do my thing and you're either gonna
hate it or love it. But there's nothing new or
I could do at this point, you know, because Jimmy told.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Them it's above me.

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
Yeah, and it's above you too, so everybody so like
this is how it's gonna go. So there was a
little tension. I think Connor, good guy by the way,
got a chance to chat with him before, during, and after,
great relationship. I think he would say the same. But
as I walk on the stage, Mike Tyson's front fucking row,
like right here, and it was At that moment, I'm like, yeah,
I'm at the sv like, Mike Tyson is right here,

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Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey were right here. I think Jamal
was over here. I think there was like all the
big names. Lindsay Vaughan I think was sitting right here,
and I was like, damn. Like Mike Tyson.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Though.

Speaker 4 (01:13:27):
As I turned the corner, He's the first person I see,
and I'm like, fuck, I'm at the SPS. So I
start talking nothing. I see Mike's face. This fucker is
not budgeting, and I'm like, Okay, Mike's not about my bullshit.
You know, Mike does not know I exist. About four
minutes in, I got Mike to pop and I saw
him laugh and I was like, so, Paula.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
I was like, I got, I got.

Speaker 4 (01:13:51):
Mike Tyson and in the middle of it, I almost stopped.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
It was like, Mike, give it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:58):
Exactly. I was so pumped by it. So I love Mike.
So if you guys are booking Mike Tyson on my show,
well we'll do across.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
See what we can do.

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
Who do you want?

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
You want Peyton or Aaron?

Speaker 4 (01:14:06):
All right, I'll send a text. I got no power
over this.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
And we have no power of mic, but we have
his old person needs to run the show. That works
for us, So we're good.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
He's micro dosing and ship out of mushrooms.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
And I heard it, I say he was eating the
ears ears. Oh yeah, yeah, Mike, I'm a supporter, but yeah,
I saw that in his pocket.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Yes, yeah, yeah, Yeah. They're pretty good too. They're strong.

Speaker 4 (01:14:27):
Yeah, they're fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
One.

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
I was just out of Vegas playing thirteen the Issues.
I put in my back pocket and I run hot.
So we got two to three sticking together, right now.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Come come in your way, hot, Come in your way.

Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
Absolutely. Yeah, we're just in Vegas for cheers. Yeah, here's
I'll take the one and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Just give me the one. Cheers.

Speaker 4 (01:14:50):
Hey, cheers you CB, the only, yeah, CB, the only,
obviously the only.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Oh those are those are warmed butt all over that
you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
You guys got a little ask you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
Well, Pat, We want to thank you man again. Uh.
You know the trail you've blazed, being able to do
it your way on the biggest scale. We admired that.
We respect it years and keep doing anything. Man, Thanks
for your time giving up. Pat McAfee, brother, my brother,
Appreciate you guys. Th