April 19, 2024 • 65 mins
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This week on the show, Bobby and The Demi Boys talk about Bobby's appearance at Afa's Tribute Show and what an honor it was for Bobby to be a part of it! Then they get into that happenings of the Smackdown after Mania and Raw from Montreal. Where they see the Bloodline story going, who could be brought into it or who should not be brought into it. They talk about Sami returning home as the Intercontinental Champion. Where they see Gunther going next and more.
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This week on the show, Bobby and The Demi Boys talk about Bobby's appearance at Afa's Tribute Show and what an honor it was for Bobby to be a part of it! Then they get into that happenings of the Smackdown after Mania and Raw from Montreal. Where they see the Bloodline story going, who could be brought into it or who should not be brought into it. They talk about Sami returning home as the Intercontinental Champion. Where they see Gunther going next and more.
Enjoy the show and thank you for listening! Please like, share, follow, subscribe and rate the show!
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Dennis Rymanowski (D. Scott)
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The most educated professionals him the show. And I mean, folks, where's
the line? It's time for theUndisputed Podcast with Bobby Fish? Do it
live. That's de Scott, theradio guy. Hi d J. That's
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he had Bobby Fish behind me,underneath me, below me, blow me.
This is brought to you by thecareer control that worked the Undisputed Podcast.
That's what we are we doing?Why are you laughing like that?
It was what's with the evil lamp? Are you the bad guy? Weird
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evil scientists? Yeah? It soundlike Doc Brown. He wasn't evil though,
he wasn't evil, he was crazy. It was crazy. Yeah,
I mean man time machine. I'mThealorian. I mean the way I see
it, if you're going to builda time machine, why not do it
with some style? True, that'strue. Frank would have done it with
(01:11):
a Corolla, Adam. There's nothingwrong with the Corolla. I know I
had one, See did I hada Corolla back on the indies, Like
when I first started really making trips, I was like, I gotta get
rid of this blazer. Well,too much on the gas tank. And
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that's not when promoters weren't really keento giving me gas money. That's back
in the map days. I'm stillgetting around on map Quest and you guys
gonna reimburse me for my fuel.Yeah yeah, so lear And I'll say
this too, like this is howthrifty I was back in the those days.
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So the Corolla got I think itwas probably like thirty thirty five dollars
to fill my tank. And Iwouldn't get hotels on the road because I
would keep I had a membership toPlanet Fitness, and if I because I
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was working a lot in like theNew England area and stuff. So if
that was the case, like let'ssay I had a booking in like Malden,
Massachusetts on a Friday, and thensomewhere Danbury, Connecticut on a Saturday.
Rather than get a hotel, Iwould pull into the parking lot at
Planet Fitness. I would sleep inmy car. I would get up in
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the morning and go in and workout and then shower and all that stuff
at Planet Fitness, and then leaveto go to the show on Saturday.
There you go, That's how Isaved. I mean that like that was
to come up man, that thatwas the stuff that you did. And
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it's I've had conversations with other guysin the business about it too, not
about that exact thing, but aboutsome of the things that you did in
the insane mileage that you would puton a day, you know, Like
I think I've said before on here, Dalton and I would drive to Pittsburgh
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and so it was like seven hoursone way, so it'd be like fourteen
hours on the road in a twentyfour hour span, and we would just
wrestle and we were probably were makingdecent money at the time, but definitely
no more than like five hundred bucks. Yeah, and that was like every
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six weeks sort of thing. Yeah, So it was that back in the
day when like King Kong Bundy andTino Santia on these cards. No,
that was back in the day,like right after the battle a little Bighorn.
Oh right, right, right right, So I remember I remember Corollas
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back then they did they did hadModel Te's Toyota Corollas. Nice. Okay,
mm hmmmmm. Who knew? Youlearned something new every episode of this
show. Yep, yep, we'rehistorians. I'm a historian. I'm a
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historical figure. I'm not only partof history, I am history. Yeah,
so old, I'm history. Yeah, yeah, you're not right.
Yeah, yeah, oh I havea sounder for that. Yeah, well
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you kind of missed your window,did You're right now you know what,
moment's gone. Yeah, yeah,there it is there. It is better
late than never. Dickhead, youknow what? The best you know what
the number one rule about comedy isnever say dickhead. Oh timing. Oh
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yeah apparently, and it says beenuh on the Boons today? Yes,
oh, we're going back to theBoons the Boons wine. That's what I
want. We can't we can,which I'm I'm like ninety nine point positive
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that in one kid rock song hementions Boone's wine. He probably does.
I think he does. I'm talkingabout kid rock with the bar. Yeah
he did. He did sleep withPamela Anderson. He did. That is
true him and Tommy. Right,do you think that's a half had to
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write? I think Devin Dave did. Yeah, the half. Yeah,
you know I would say, yeah, I mean, I you know,
let's be honest, I don't.She wasn't she wasn't really a hard yeah
(06:27):
right, I mean I don't know, giving it away, kind of passing
it out. Okay, this isn'tabout let's get back into this podcast is
about me. Let's talk about me. What is nothing? All right?
(06:54):
Well, good talk? Do youhave a show? You don't have any
time? Fool we again? Uh? I did something? What did I
do? Yes? The Philly wasthis week. Let's pass week. Oh
I know you did? You didthe Alpha show, didn't you? Yes?
I did. I did. That'swhat it was. Yeah, I
(07:15):
wrestled the Chico. Every time Ithink of it, I want to say
Chico Holmes. That was the wreceiver on Troy Troy who I ended up
getting kind of in the fight with. But it wasn't that. That wasn't
him. We're thinking of Iceman Icemcclearly, the running back. It's McCleary.
(07:43):
Yeah, oh yeah, you're right, you're right. It wasn't Yeah,
you're right, you're right right.So back to Chico and the man.
Yeah, Chico Adams I wrestled fromYeah. Uh. Show was a
nice tribute to Off. I gotto see off I got this the family,
(08:09):
you know, and and it wasit was an honor to pay tribute
to him and to his family forall that they've done for the industry,
and and it was just nice tosee the turnout backstage of the amount of
people that you know, we're we'rethere to celebrate mm hmmm in some way,
(08:37):
you know it was it was nice. I was glad to be a
part of it. Nice. Yeah, good stuff, good show, good
show. I would assume I didn'tsee much of it. I did see
I I saw low Key and Iwant to say, his name is Vertigo,
(09:03):
who was like the champion wxw's champion. And you know low Key's always
low Key's always good. I meanfrom an in ring standpoint, you really
can't do much better. And youknow low Ki's it's my flavor of ice
(09:24):
cream, so to speak. AndExus is martial arts in really really well.
You know, an argument can bemade for him mixing his martial arts
into his pro wrestling better than anybodyin the world, or at least at
the very least in the top andtop five, top three. Like I
said, the argument can be madefor number one. So I appreciate that
(09:50):
stuff because I noticed some of thejiu jitsu in some of his grappling early
and his transitional stuff, and that, you know, that's just stuff I
appreciate and if nobody else in thebuilding appreciates it, that's fine. But
I know that like I do,and I would imagine, like that's a
conversation I could have with Kevin aboutyou know, just you just yeah,
(10:13):
that's cool the way that some ofthat stuff can be connected to our industry.
I'm appreciative of it. Yeah,yeah, good she it were you
there? I was not there.I was not there. I did watch
the Roman Reigns biography on any lastweek. I did as well, right,
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and I watched it. I didn'tget through the whole thing, but
I watched a good portion of it. I think it was the night before
I went off us to the wXwtribute show, and I didn't watch it
for that reason. I just happenedto, you know, become aware of
it being there, and so Iwatched it, and then it was kind
(11:01):
of full circle to then go therethe next day and I mean we're talking
the same family. Yeah, wellyou would you take on it? I
liked it. It was it wasdefinitely interesting, uh, and it's it
was nice to see and kind ofget the backstory as to how he became
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and accepted the role of you know, the tribal chief and all that and
how you know, leading up tothat where he was doing the other stuff
and they were let you know thatyou heard the stories about them shoving him
down the fans throat, and thenfor him to just kind of be like,
fuck it, I'm gonna do whatI gotta do and become the tribal
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chief. Thought I really enjoyed it. I liked it, didn't love it
because I thought, at times,you don't it was kind of blurry for
me. It's at at times Igot to share, if you's Roman Reigns,
the guy that Roman Rains the characterwere I don't know. Well,
I mean, he does say inthere though, that the distinction between Joe
(12:11):
and Roman Reigns are that blurred lineis supposed to be blurred lines. It
does a good job with that.Yeah, right, kind of agreeing.
But then I will also say thatI really enjoyed it because it gives some
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backstory to what things were like whilehe was going through some of the rough
around the edges, turmoil and thatthis way, and so then it to
me it speaks even more to theperformer he's become that and a lot of
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that uh not so great stuff iswhat makes him who he is today.
So it's like it's a testimonial almost, you know, for people coming up,
young guys coming up, I wouldsay in the business obviously, but
(13:22):
I'm just gonna say in the world, like coming up as a as a
man, you know you're gonna gothrough some of the toughest shit you go
through. And I guess this comesdown to, like what your faith is
and do you have faith or don'tyou or have you not just not discovered
it yet, because I know thatthere was a time in my life that
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I did not have the faith thatI have today. And I think that
like it conditions you to understand thatyou know, it's not on the truest
word words to me or that likeit's not on my schedule, it's on
his and his being God or ourcreator, our you know, the Lord,
(14:09):
whatever you want to get. Andif that's the case, then a
lot of these times when you're atthe bottom, you know you're and you
think can't get any worse, andyou're having that pity party, you might
be in the thick of like beingprepared for what's to come next, and
(14:35):
prior to going through that difficult time, you weren't ready to receive what's coming,
so you can't have one without theother. And I think that that's
very much what that documentary that this, at least the story I was picking
up was very much that of thing, and because I've lived similar circumstances,
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you know, outside of I'm noteven talking wrestling. I'm just talking,
you know, in having faith andthings not being ready to receive at a
time when I thought like oh,and then realizing like man, I'm thinking
that, like wow, it can'tget any worse. And yeah, I
(15:35):
just think I think it was agreat like redemption sort of story, and
then it leads itself to We've talkedabout it on this podcast before about the
Bloodline being this amazing story. I'dsay it's the biggest story in wrestling right
now that's still going. I justwatched in Minneola, Florida, after Mania,
(16:02):
a whole independent show throw up theone, and there was a you
know, a point. I thinkMaddie posted it too. There was a
thing where they did the I thinkit's called the hakka. Yeah, I
think you're right, and they didthat in the ring, and then a
(16:22):
bunch of like guys that were inthe ring, and these are indie guys
and some of them are family,you know, of the Annoy family,
Anawai'i family, and some of themwere just you know, indie workers and
some of you know, it kindof spanned the whole spectrum, but they
did this thing to honor Off andthen like a bunch of like all of
(16:49):
them, almost they're holding up theone and some people are doing it just
because they're followers, and some peopleit doesn't it almost didn't even matter.
It was I'm just talking about howpowerful it was, you know, just
to watch that and it unified thesepeople. However many were in that building.
Let's say there were seven hundred peoplein that building, and it unified
(17:10):
all of these people in twenty twentyfour. You know, unity is not
easy to come by in this countryon any level, let alone in the
wrestling world. I mean, obviouslyon the grand scheme of things, nobody
everybody seems to be divided. Butin the wrestling world too, that division
is there as well. It's soyeah, the tribalism and fandom has become
(17:34):
insane to unify people like that,And I can't believe it took this long.
For as long as that family hasbeen putting out professional wrestlers, it
took this long to kind of bringthis kind of story to light, because
before you don't really know everybody wasrelated. Like I would have never known
Yokuzuna was actually part of that family. I thought he was a fucking sumo
(17:56):
wrestler and I thought he was Japanese. Well what they call a mark,
Dennis, you're a mark that wouldbe a smart fan. I'm not one
of those. And I was gonnasay, I mean that in the nicest
way possible, but I truly do, like I'm just because I don't like
(18:18):
the term mark and I don't liketo use it whenever. But mark comes
from back in the carnival days.A mark was the you know, the
the ticket paying customer. You know, they were a mark because they didn't
they hadn't seen how the doughnuts weremade yet. And it's just some of
(18:40):
it. It's just old vernacular.But like I do get a little bit
of a kick out of it whenyou see people online throwing the terms around
and mark and babyface and heel andyou know, work and shoot, It's
like, God, none of thisis for you, right, none of
it. Well, the access hasbecome so grand for the fans now,
(19:07):
I mean Aside from all the bullshitthat's on the internet, there are countless
podcasts just like this one. I'mgonna take a step further though. This
has been going on for the lasttwenty years though, with the with the
ur video shoot videos, when guysare coming out really exposing the stuff the
back, saying all the stories,tell them the dirt, tell them the
(19:29):
things that they probably should have beensaid. And started out with a few,
and then I grew and everybody didit. Yeah. Well, I
mean, it's whatever's gonna make money, and right, something's gonna make money,
then everybody's gonna start doing it.And when Vince did it to get
out of paying the athletic commissions,that being the main reason why he was
(19:52):
so forthcoming, it gave everyone inthe industry the green light too, if
they could justify it to themselves.And listen, I mean, we're human
beings. If you want to dosomething bad, now, you'll find a
way to justify it. True.True separates us from you know, the
(20:15):
cats and the dogs and theirs.Yeah, oh my uh anyway, and
I just think that like, yeah, it's just it's just going too far.
And you know, you have youjust have you know, huge examples
of of the fact that it's goingtoo far. You know, you look
(20:38):
no further than some of the stuffthat you see on TV and some of
the stuff we saw on TV recently. You know, there's just too much.
You know, I think they'll theWWE dont pretty a job trying to
get bring back the happy medium,Like now, it's where I kind of
(21:00):
think we grew up on that.That must add to Arabe a step behind
that, where there's some storytelling,there's which good showmanship, there's some athletic
ability. I don't want to hearstuff that I shouldn't know from behind the
curtain type stuff. I think sometimesguys put that interviews. It's like I
can talk about I think the fanshave been conditioned, and I think and
(21:22):
I learned this early on, youknow, from that I had respect for
and still have immense amounts of respectfor. But like a guy like William
Regal and the you know, thethis you're supposed to be interested in what
(21:45):
you've what you're paying to see.You know, as soon as we got
the shoe. On the other foot, it's fine and you can dabble in
it, but you can't make itall about that, and once it does
become you know, once that balancegets upset too much, inspide in the
(22:07):
wrong direction. That I think someof the messier things that we've ended up
with in the industry modern day havebeen a result. Oh true, Like
you don't ca fabe is it's notthere anymore, and the lynch pins that
(22:30):
people being able to provide for theirfamily is not maintaining cave fab anymore.
So in some ways that's really goodfor the people occupying the industry, you
know, I mean that we wewe can be seen with each other and
(22:52):
not you know, blow our coverand possibly ruin our career aspirations, et
cetera. But in another way,it sucks because of the other stuff that
it's done. Yeah, and don'tknow, it's funny that we were talking
(23:17):
earlier about the bloodline and the storyand how that storyline has become probably the
I would have to say, oneof the best storylines that professional wrestling has
ever seen. And it's not evenclose to being over. No, That's
what I'm saying. And this willkind of be a little bit of a
segue. So can you guys fillme in? Just because I heard about
(23:41):
it and I knew it was happening, but I didn't know how soon it
would would be coming together. ButTama Tongo was leaving New Japan and I
knew that, and I worked withTama for years in New Japan. So
I'm actually very interested in have notwatched SmackDown, but I was told that
(24:07):
he debuted on SmackDown last week.What had it been? Okay, and
you guys saw this and before westarted recording, you had mentioned it,
but we didn't really get into it. So Phil Phil a brother in so
brother because he's dead. So wow, it was still meat. I have
(24:33):
a little darkness. Hello, dartedfriend, you're my boy, Blue,
He're my boy. So let's see. They had what's as of right now
left of the bloodline with the Rockand Roman being out, you know,
doing whatever it is that they're doing. So is that stated on TV?
(24:56):
Like have they said like, okay, the Rock and Roman are away?
Yeah? So because the Rock theRock came out and said that he had
to go away for a while,and he told that because that's when he
got in the ring with Cody onRaw after Mania, I think, and
told him he was going away.I'll see you when I get back.
We're not done, and he putssomething in his like I think it was
(25:19):
his I think it was his panties. I'm not sure. Don't quote me
on that, like maybe a dirtysock or something. Maybe the sock that
he hides under in between his mattressand his box spring. Yes, it
is. It is public knowledge thatthe Rock is gone for a while to
do to prior obligations, the Romanthing. I think he was he was
(25:48):
due for some time off. Sothere's that. So right now we had
the Wise Man with Solo and Jimmy, which was this It started as the
segment and Solo, Uh, theylet him talk on SmackDown, which is
(26:08):
that's a rare rarity, but itwas kind of a there's consequences to losing.
And it started with it had avery uh like Michael Corleone and and
the Fredo vibe to it because hegave him a hug and they were like
(26:30):
hugging it out, and that's whenJimmy was attacked from behind by the new
member of the bloodline. You know, an interesting way to like keep it
in that with that vibe, butto just take it in like kind of
a new direction, as if insteadof like hugging him, they like French
(26:53):
kissed. Huh yeah, I meanI'm sure that the only there's there's only
a few places that would have goneover, one of them being the very
Deep South. Yeah, because theyare they're legitimate brothers, so it's kind
of weird. But yeah, I'mI would have done that. But it's
(27:14):
just another director. It's just analternative. It's like a decent Yeah,
yeah, it's definitely alternative words andjust take that out in post production should
probably, So that's when is itTamama Tonga? That's by the way,
(27:37):
that's a tongue twister. Why am a tonga t o? By the
way, is the son of isthe son of Haku? One of the
baddest men walk in the world,maybe the baddest. And there's another one.
(28:00):
Yeah, I listen, we weregoing to turn his name. In
fact, I think we should stillgo back and do it into a shirt
on Bobbyfish Apparel dot com. Thefunniest clip on any social media platform is
(28:21):
Haku laughing hysterically at what's his name, Fred Atman the shock Master, falling
through the wall because he's startly laughing. So then maybe we need that for
a T shirt and then on theback it says, you know, keep
your ship up, just talk verbhakou your ass. Yeah. So that's
(28:52):
when we were introduced to Tama intothe bloodline. Now they have the Silent
Killer that is Solo and Tom whojust appears to be psychotic. So they
had Tom. Did Toma talk orno? No? He just yeah.
(29:15):
Yeah. So they beat the Jimmy. It was from what they said,
uh, orders from the tribal chiefto do so, but that's all they
said. They didn't say from Roman. They said, it was just the
(29:37):
tribal chief. There's it is kindof setting up. Oh and they had
Paul Hayman scared to death that thatport Man was scared for his He literally
he legitimately looked like he was afraidfor his life, which anyway, but
it's a nice it feels like they'resetting up, which I think would be
(30:00):
awesome. And I've heard some talkabout it is Survivor series War Games bloodline
versus Bloodline. That's cool. That'dbe should be pretty fucking awesome. Yeah,
that's pretty cool. I mean obviouslynothing confirmed on that, it's all
just speculation, but it would bea mean Jimmy and Jay to get back
(30:22):
together. Roman goes the different route, gets with Jimmy and Jay, and
then you have Solo, Tama andwhomever else. It almost doesn't matter.
There's plenty of family members to goaround, as we've discussed, So maybe
(30:45):
maybe at some point working Sammy backin with that as well, which would
be kind of awesome. Yeah,that was pretty cool. Well, by
the way, I had one ofthe all time great entranes last night.
Know if I agree about me comingback in really yeah, I don't think
I like that because I don't thinkI think that story was told and you
(31:15):
know, lightning doesn't strike twice andSammy doesn't need that story, and that
story doesn't need Sammy. True,I really think that. You then you
just I think it's like one ofthose too much of a good thing scenarios,
(31:37):
like you just don't muck the water, keep them right there. But
like sam he will be in whateverstory he is in will be compelling because
he's that good of a performer,and the bloodline story doesn't need him,
(31:57):
and he doesn't need the bloodline,you know, Like I just I truly
think, no, don't don't doit. Not like a good idea,
but I just don't think so well. I think the scenario that I heard
it in was kind of like,you know, if they bring Roman back
and and he he he flips andit's no longer the evil like the heel,
(32:24):
it would kind of help get himback in the good graces of the
fans and stuff like that. ButI see your point. You know,
it's He's not that it's not likehe would be a main cog in that,
and it's not something that would beneeded. It would just be a
callback to him being that honorary membertype thing. But I'm I'm here for
callbacks, but I think callbacks needto be like brief one hitter this point
(32:52):
because Sammy has established his ye Idon't know. I mean, I listen,
I'm not in a position to bemaking these decisions. It's just my
two cents now. For for aWar Games match, it's four on four,
(33:15):
correct, yeah, But I meanyou can always play with the numbers.
I think five on five before.I think I could be right.
I could be wrong. I don'tknow, you may be right, I
may maybe crazy. Always four wasit five? I think it's gone bold
(33:39):
on four. We've we did thefirst one with three. The first War
Games that they brought back was threeon three on three, right right?
It wasn't aop and Roddy and Dyversus me, Kyle and Adam and who
(34:01):
were the other ones? The otherthree guys and that didn't we? Yeah?
And Sanity right right right right right? Was it? Sanity? Yeah?
Yeah, yes, yeah, ey e y Damo. And he's
(34:30):
got a different name now, butAxel Axel Tisher is his name now.
But he was what was he?I don't remember anymore? What was he
in Sanity? Was it? Iremember? Doesn't bode well for us front
of the show. He for wellfor me? It's the concussions. So
(34:51):
I have an excuse. You guysare on your own. You will not
be getting Christmas cards from Axel.Yeah. Oh I think I've already been,
you know, taken off his list. I didn't get one of the
last time. Wolf Wolfy well Dameo, Yeah, yeah, Wolfing Dameo.
(35:15):
That's how I know them. Iwill always refer to them as Wolfy and
dame O will always be to me. But any who, Right, so
that was the first War Games andit was three on three on three.
Gotcha? Oh, you can prettymuch do whatever you need to do.
Yeah, I mean they're they're incharge, so they can do whatever they
(35:37):
want. The team versus the teamversus maybe another team or maybe not right.
Really, anything goes. Let's gothree on three. Anything goes,
get done, dirty, Frank,the rules are there are no rules.
(35:58):
Let the war game beg You soundlike I gus. You sound like Haku
would laugh at you, the sameone. That's a sound by You need
DNIS. What's that HAWKU laughing?You know what I would buy on pay
(36:21):
per view hunk beating the ship outof Frank? Wow? I would I
would pay to see that. Whydon't we set that up for the podcast
live? I'll do it. Yeah, you'll take one for the what if
you want? You're going to takean ass women from Haku. I mean,
(36:42):
I appreciate your dedication, man,but we don't even get paid for
this ship like you have in mind. Holy hell. Let's go back to
Sammy's entrance last night in Montreal.I didn't see it. That was awesome.
Hey, I did see something ona gay catching a ton of heat,
Fuck you Gable because he turned onSamuel last night. I assume that
(37:06):
that's what it was. I assumein Canada. So was it the Parken
back to Rocky three? Did theyrevisit that moment at Mania, the one
we talked about. Yes, well, they had the match last night and
Samy one and Sammy's kissing his wife. Gable comes up behind him. I
think you've a billion of backup thenthe match and just starts going to town
(37:30):
on him kissing him. Yes,Oh wow, they had homo sexual affairs
like a love triangle. Damn it. Yeah, I gotta, I really
gotta keep this heterosexual. I'm uh, I'm struggling where a podcast for all
(37:51):
people we are, but that tendsto be Yeah, I gotta. I
have to edit that out to djust made a note as soon as you
started with it, I'm like,well, fucking look what time it is
timestamps. So yeah, I meanwell yeah, I mean they did that
(38:17):
to Sammy forty five minutes from wherehe grew up, so it's like there
was a the crowd was slightly behindSammy. But his entrance, if you
do get a chance to go backand watch it was great. Comes in
from like he goes, I'm comingin here like I came in here as
a fan through the front door,which I still don't know what him and
(38:37):
Jay were looking at when Jay walkedout there. Jays yes, USO had
the match right before it where hebeat Finn right with Finn balor Yeah,
because it was Finn was supposed totake him out because he's Jay is now
the number one contender to face DamianPriest for the belt at back Clash.
(39:00):
Wow, Finn was supposed to Finnwas supposed to take him out, did
not do that. So Jay takesout all of Judgment Day, which was
awesome, and then like just leavesthrough the crowd. The camera follows him
through the concourse of the arena.Jay walks out the front door, and
Sammy's standing there and just looking up, and they still did they never said
(39:25):
what he was looking at, becauseJay walks up, he was what are
you looking at? And they're bothjust kind of staring up in the air.
And then that's how and Sammy thensays, I'm coming in tonight the
same way I came in when Igrew up as a fan. Here through
the front door, he walks back. He just basically does the exact opposite
of what Jay did, walks throughthe crowd all through the fucking crowd,
(39:46):
it was awesome and then had hismatch. Yeah, I'm gonna have to
go back and watch this. Soit just sounds man, it all just
sounds great. It sounds like,I mean, just think about how much
talent they're utilizing, you know,and they're getting the people are getting opportunities,
(40:14):
and they're hitting you know, homeruns and then you know there's good
supporting cast too. That that's youknow, coming up big, hitting triples
and doubles and you know everybody's gettingon base. Is basically the analogy I
think I'm looking for it there.It is. Yeah, they're i mean,
(40:36):
they are definitely hitting on pretty mucheverything. And now in goont they're
building up that CHAMPI the Intercontinental Championshipthe way that he did. Uh.
So they've had you know, aquote unquote great mid card champion as it
was, and now and Sammy takingover. He pulled out some great ship
last night, just stuff that youknow, you really haven't seen from him
(40:59):
probably years. Where he was therewas a lot of callbacks to like the
El Generico ship and all that,and it was you've got room for all
that stuff. And I'm gonna justand I'll only touch on this briefly and
then we moved past it because Idon't want to like spoil it in any
(41:19):
way. But you know, whatis the flip side to the Sammy Coin
equation right now? To me,it's guns who's now able to move on
to the main event picture true?Who was just proven as you know,
(41:47):
the secondary like that's that's the timehonored tradition of the way business is booked.
And you know, I don't wantto I don't feel like I need
to point it out even but likethe people or person that seems to be
(42:10):
in control, he's a he's atraditionalist, he's a true historical Yeah,
I mean he's a he's a he'sa professional wrestler and pro wrestling dude of
the game who is a historician ofthe game the game. Well, look
(42:35):
at the history for harp Shaw,Michaels, Ray Savage, all held up
belt and all went on to winthe world championship. Yeah. And I'm
not saying that that's the way allof this is going to go and that's
going to fall right that order,and who knows anything, but I'm just
I'm just pointing out some of thethings that maybe some people might not if
(43:01):
they only look at things on thesurface that they might not put connect dots
with. This is where my braingoes, and I see all the possibilities.
You know, you're use established guysto make other guys established, But
(43:22):
you don't do that by just havingthese established guys all of a sudden do
the job. But there's there's anart to the way that this stuff gets
done. And you're watching it rightnow. Amian pretty now in the main
(43:43):
event picture at a time before Gunteris in the main event picture because I've
been freed up because you he justmade Sammy, and Sammy was already pretty
well made, but it was youknow, Sammy being made from stuff that
he's done in the past. Butyou know, a lot of it from
(44:07):
the Bloodline, which was a spinoff of the Bloodline, which is now
the main conflict of WrestleMania. Andyou know, it's like, yeah,
I don't it's just so well woventogether and there's so many shout outs and
(44:28):
callbacks and yeah, it's the nuanceman, Nuance is everything. Yeah,
just sounds cool, man. Ihaven't even watched most of this, is
hearing a lot of this from you, and uh, it just sounds yeah,
just sounds great, you know,and now and now Toma Tonga is
(44:52):
there, uh, which I justI'm just happy to see another guy I've
I've worked with, you know,and and broken bread with and ship ring
with. Like, just happy tosee the best for people. That's just
cool, very very cool. Ilike. I like the fact that it's
(45:13):
not there isn't just one like themain story and then everything else is all
just like wrestling matches, everything matters. Yeah, m hmm. Yeah,
it's it's gotten back to there's multiplestories going on. They're easy to follow
along with and everything that follow alongwith. That's the key it really is,
(45:36):
is you don't get the chance towatch every week. So if you
miss a week, I can comeback to Oh, I can pick up
where I left off. And I'mnot over analyzia, I'm not. It's
easy listening. And that is oneof the one of the benefits of the
internet too, is I can ifI miss stuff, I can go on
to X formally known as Twitter,and and I feel like we should move
(45:59):
away from I'm saying that, likeevery time someone says X, you have
to like reference that it used tobe Twitter. Uh. Anyway, that's
just me. But you can catchup pretty quick and see the highlights of
the stuff that you missed the nightbefore or whatever the case may be.
So you said that this is oneof the like positives. Yes, social
(46:21):
media, one of the positives isis that you can catch up on that
stuff. Would you say, like, what would another of those social media
positives be for you? Would itbe or the Internet positives for you?
Would that be I don't know,Frank porn? Oh yeah, absolutely all
(46:45):
right. I just wanted to youknow, it helped me locate the Bougoggy
Lounge that was that was the Internetthat did porn. Of course there is
are you kidding me? The MogoggyLounge has boxed lunch. Oh my god.
(47:08):
One thing that you missed was Rheahad to vacate your title. Why
injury? She's gonna be out Iguess like six to eight months with a
shoulder injury. Oh man. Butthen in the Mania match, or they're
saying it happened on Raw after ManiaLive, Morgan threw her into the wall
(47:31):
and damaged their shoulder. So they'reputting it on live. Who Rea put
out for eight months? I thoughtyou meant Matt Morgan. I don't know
who that was. Yeah, Liveokay, but so yeah, so Ria
put her on the shelf for eightmonths, toward her shoulder out of the
(47:51):
socket, and Live who's on herrevenge tour, threw Riha into the wall,
knocked her shoulder out, did whateverit is. But she's so she
had to vacate the title. Sonow it's, uh, the women's titles
up for grabs. She's on arevenge tour, correct, the Live Morgan
(48:12):
revenge tour. Remember Revenge of theNerds? Nerds? Yep, charge did
you guys have that guy Ogre atthe bar? One time we did?
He was we had a Revenge ofthe Nerds party and we hired Andrew Gibb
who was the actor that played Ogre, and we flew him in and he
(48:37):
was like our MC for the evening. We had like the Trojan horse in
the back of the bar. Mygod, you know he had like a
viking. Yeah, it was.It was pretty insane. So what's it
(48:59):
going on? I had to bringhim in for the show. I mean,
he's got to remember. It wasdefinitely in the thousands. But what
we did so like at that timein my life, the guys that I
partnered with to open that bar,they were you know, they kind of
taught me. They were like mentoringme on how to like run that business.
(49:22):
And so what we had done wasyou leveraged, like some of the
distributors against one another to get moremoney. And like DIEKRESENNI was obviously the
biggest, one of the biggest ones, so like there were any of the
smaller ones were always uh, youknow, trying to get their product up
(49:50):
front and center. And I don'tremember exactly how we did it, but
that left a lot of room forlike business stuff to get done. So
I think we ended up up gettinga few grand from a couple of different
distributors in order to pay for theflight and then to pay for his fee.
(50:10):
And he was peddling his own draftbeer at the time, so we
had that on special and it youknow, I don't know somehow it was
mutually beneficial for everyone, but yeah, you know, it definitely cost us
a couple of grand fee and afew grand to you know, get it
(50:34):
all there. But most of themoney we used for that wasn't ours.
Yeah, But now after all theconcussion, I forgot how to do all
that stuff. So my brain is, you know, I don't I can't
run a business. I was privilegedto host a party that Ryan Done and
(51:00):
uh it was it don don Vitofrom Ryan Mark No, no, no,
no, the guy from it wasRyan Done was from Jackass and it
was Bammar Jera's uncle there or whatever. The yeah, they came in.
It was at Sneaky Pets. Mmhm. That was an interesting night.
(51:22):
Let me tell you that. Youknow, Ryan Dunn, who's who's passed
away? But Don Vito was whata what an interesting character that guy was
mm hmm. Yeah. Thankfully therewas no cell phones, right, beepers,
(51:44):
there were beepers. No, no, no, no, this was
kind of Actually there were cell phones, but they weren't like now. It
was all flip phones. It wasflip phones. So it was an interesting
night. That was that. Thatwas that sneaky piece when they were on
Central Aba Hamony, But Frank,you look like you got a thought?
(52:07):
Am I wrong? No? Ithink right? Which one is it?
I said, you look like youhave a thought. Am I right?
You're like, no, I don'thave a thought. You're a hundred percent
right. Oh he's a regular wordsmith. I was almost as if I confused
(52:30):
you with my question. Yes,wise yes, So as we as we
start to wrap up, Bobby,what do you got going on? What's
in the opera here for you?Well, considering I could not remember what
I did last weekend? I fourtwenty You're at House of Champions. Oh
(52:50):
this, Yeah, I'm doing aseminar at House of Champions this Saturday,
nine to eleven, I think,yes, nine to eleven, Longwood,
Florida. I will be doing asigning. It's called Grapple Con Glory Days
(53:15):
Grapple Con in Orlando Saturday this comingSaturday. That will be from twelve to
four. I'll be doing a signingwith a bunch of people and it'll be
(53:35):
everything you know, eight x ten'sT shirts, trading cards, action figures,
all the stuff. And that's thisweekend action figures of you or just
like any action figure in general.Like if I show up with the roadblock
from g I Jo, you'll signthat? Yeah? Yeah, Joe,
Yeah, I mean I'll sign anythingfor twenty five dollars. I'll even sign
(53:58):
it with your somebody else's name outof it. I got bab Ruth photograph
this g I Joe toy right,you could get a Babe Ruth autograph signed
by Bobby Fish. Imagine that.Yeah, that's gotta be worth nothing.
It sounds like it, right,So there's that, and then I will
(54:25):
be wrestling upcoming Boca Ratton that isin May. Yes, I'm also May
(54:47):
eighteenth was just announced Malachi Black hasreleased it The Dark Art Jim in Plant
City, Florida. I'm gonna bedoing a seminar there as well on May
eighteenth. I'm doing some DDP yogaas well that weekend in Riverview. Let's
(55:14):
back up the train a little bit. Sunday, April twenty eighth, You'll
be wrestling at for eg c WExtreme Wrestle Fast Volume number three, okay
in Deltona, Yes, Deltona,Florida, sixteen forty doctor Mark Luther King
Boulevard, get your kicks down atevent bright dot com. Boom. You
(55:40):
don't tell me you're reading that atall, Frank, not at all at
all. You're doing You're doing avirtual I believe, doing a seminar also
there you are good? Okay,go, because I'm no better, I
figured sure skip over the whole wholebogoging. Sorry, but imagine well gift
over the whole month that we gotguys in October. I'll be in in
(56:07):
twenty sixteen, twenty twenty six Iwill be and you're right with House of
Champions. It is nine to eleventhis Saturday and twelve to four. I'll
be at the Rosen Center in RosenCenter A Rosen Yeah, the Rosen Center
(56:28):
Hotel twelve to four for Glory DaysGrapple Cohn doing a signing and previous to
that nine to eleven Pro Wrestling Seminarat House Champions, Longwood, Florida.
Correct correct, correct, Yes,I'm looking at this guest list for this
(56:53):
Grapple con Man. We got RonSimmons, Dan Hansen, one Man,
Gang, Kim Any Riddle, Zabisco, Missy Hyatt, Alparez, brand Is,
Bubs McGraw, Jack Victory, nextmet Mark Laurentz, A J.
Francis Frank I really I think youdon't care? Yeah, I mean it
(57:20):
really, the only reason they needand the only person they need to know
is going to be there is meand Ron Simmons. I mean, if
they're listening to this podcast, theyshould want to see me. I'm just
saying it to who's who A professionalwrestling then since Saturday Dam April twentieth.
I'm not sure if I like theway you're doing this, the show in
(57:49):
general, or just him promoting theother people that will be there, the
way we're both you know, theway he kind of takes liberties. Oh
he's a liberty taker. Look aloose cannon. You know you never pretty
taker rank for our friends watch toBoo Vier. Excuse me, Frank,
(58:13):
anything going on? No, nope, you don't want to plug any websites
or a YouTube channel on YouTube channel. We also Coliny Pitt m h friends,
John Martinez, good people doing theirthings, the Colony gold I sell.
(58:39):
I need to do that I've beenYeah, I need to go on
that show. Yeah yeah you do, mm hmm. Bobbyfish Apparel dot Com
for all things Bobby Fish merchandise related. John Martinez was my brother's best friend,
(59:00):
like like all of childhood. Yeahyeah, yeah, the least I
could do. And this show isfun. I've seen the episodes with you
and with Matt Yeah, I mean, and those guys are my my buddies
from way back. My memory ofJohn is my sophomore year and we had
(59:28):
a trainer, Tim Weston, andhe had a strong accent. And when
you walk in the room, misterMartinez on the table, mister Martinez,
what what accent is? That's itsounded close say this at this point,
but it sounded If I had towager a guess, I would say that
(59:52):
accent was retard. Yeah, yeah, I cut yep. All right,
we have four one end or nearlywouldn't mine, but uh, we're gonna
Yeah, but if I had awager, I guess it sounded kind of
(01:00:13):
like Arnold Schwarzenegger an Austrian, butnot quite. But then again, Frank's
Frank's impressions are notoriously wrong. Yeah, so's not. He's not the impressionist
on the show. We don't haveone of those. No, so we
do have a rapper though, Ohyeah, so did you did you write
(01:00:37):
something? Are you gonna freestyle?What? I? What the fuck?
Did you remember that? Really?What's my name? I don't remember?
It's been a week. I forgotmy name? All right, Well,
(01:00:58):
what he's one of you is gonnahave to remember the name, and then
I'll uh, it's so we mighthave to put it off another week.
Beca I'm gonna have to go backand listen to last week's show. Yeah,
damn it, Well it gives youanother week to write you mean one
(01:01:19):
I wrote this week? Oh soyou actually have some point out is that
I didn't? Right? Yeah?Well, looks like we're gonna have to
tease the listeners again next week.Bobby Fish rapping on the show, possibly
in front of the guest, rappingand crabbing. What my handle is once
(01:01:42):
we figured that out? And hisbest friend Bear remember that? What b
J McKay and his best friend jand the bear? Jamie? You don't
remember that? I don't. Iwatched it a kid growing up. Sounds
familiar, sounds like a movie.You watching the Bukkaki Lounge, Benzin.
Yeah, that was right after theysigned the Declaration of Independence in a saloon.
(01:02:12):
Yeah, good lord. All right, Well, I'm gonna plug my
shit that I got coming up.On April twenty seventh, I'm djaying a
Saint Baldric's event at Hudson Valley,So come out, get your head shaved,
raise some money for the kids andchildhood cancer and childhood cancer awareness.
That's all I got. I'm djaying. I don't even know what time.
(01:02:34):
It is, like a carnival themething So there's that. That's all I
got going on. Oh what ina couple of Aubity Firebirds games, I'll
be djaying, not the game,the block party beforehand. I'm doing the
one Saturday May May second, whichis a Thursday, and I'm doing a
Sunday one. Hey, we're doinga podcast. That's a that's my thirty
(01:03:00):
first Yes, yeah, details forthat coming soon. More bastling in Atlanta
for MLW on June first. Congratulations, you know, have a busy day
because your daughter's graduation is that morningmy daughters? Yes, yes, no,
that's before I leave Florida. Yeah. So on that note, boys,
(01:03:24):
i think it's time to call itan evening for the demipod. Bobbyfishmerol
dot com, Bobby Fish Booking sevenat gmail dot com. We got a
YouTube channel. You can find iton YouTube. Sign up for the seminar
(01:03:44):
this weekend if you're in the Orlando, Florida area, and then sign up
for if you're in the Tampa SaintPete Plant City area for the seminar May
eighteenth, and at the Dark ArtsGym. I'm not sure how limited that
(01:04:12):
that one specifically is going to be, because we're trying to make it a
bit exclusive, especially for the DarkArts students that are already there, and
then some other guests. So I'mnot entirely sure, but yeah, so
then you want to get in onthat, if you want to be a
part of that, get in onit as quickly as possible. Yeah,
(01:04:34):
there'll be a post going up onmy social media very soon, but there's
already one up on Malachi Black's socialmedia. I would assume it's probably up
on the Dark Arts Gym Instagram pageas well, but it'll be going up
on mine this evening if I getto it. If not tomorrow, fair
(01:04:59):
enough. Yeah all right, souh oh, and you know what,
if you want and you're on X, follow us on X. What's our
handle on X? It's like atw Underscore on Undisputed podpted shoo we do,
(01:05:21):
Scooby Doo. I think we.I think we'll just you find it
on on X. Good luck toyou. H On that note, say
good night Bobby, Good night Bobby,
The most educated professionals him the show. And I mean, folks, where's
the line? It's time for theUndisputed Podcast with Bobby Fish? Do it
live. That's de Scott, theradio guy. Hi d J. That's
(00:25):
he had Bobby Fish behind me,underneath me, below me, blow me.
This is brought to you by thecareer control that worked the Undisputed Podcast.
That's what we are we doing?Why are you laughing like that?
It was what's with the evil lamp? Are you the bad guy? Weird
(00:47):
evil scientists? Yeah? It soundlike Doc Brown. He wasn't evil though,
he wasn't evil, he was crazy. It was crazy. Yeah,
I mean man time machine. I'mThealorian. I mean the way I see
it, if you're going to builda time machine, why not do it
with some style? True, that'strue. Frank would have done it with
(01:11):
a Corolla, Adam. There's nothingwrong with the Corolla. I know I
had one, See did I hada Corolla back on the indies, Like
when I first started really making trips, I was like, I gotta get
rid of this blazer. Well,too much on the gas tank. And
(01:34):
that's not when promoters weren't really keento giving me gas money. That's back
in the map days. I'm stillgetting around on map Quest and you guys
gonna reimburse me for my fuel.Yeah yeah, so lear And I'll say
this too, like this is howthrifty I was back in the those days.
(02:00):
So the Corolla got I think itwas probably like thirty thirty five dollars
to fill my tank. And Iwouldn't get hotels on the road because I
would keep I had a membership toPlanet Fitness, and if I because I
(02:21):
was working a lot in like theNew England area and stuff. So if
that was the case, like let'ssay I had a booking in like Malden,
Massachusetts on a Friday, and thensomewhere Danbury, Connecticut on a Saturday.
Rather than get a hotel, Iwould pull into the parking lot at
Planet Fitness. I would sleep inmy car. I would get up in
(02:43):
the morning and go in and workout and then shower and all that stuff
at Planet Fitness, and then leaveto go to the show on Saturday.
There you go, That's how Isaved. I mean that like that was
to come up man, that thatwas the stuff that you did. And
(03:05):
it's I've had conversations with other guysin the business about it too, not
about that exact thing, but aboutsome of the things that you did in
the insane mileage that you would puton a day, you know, Like
I think I've said before on here, Dalton and I would drive to Pittsburgh
(03:25):
and so it was like seven hoursone way, so it'd be like fourteen
hours on the road in a twentyfour hour span, and we would just
wrestle and we were probably were makingdecent money at the time, but definitely
no more than like five hundred bucks. Yeah, and that was like every
(03:49):
six weeks sort of thing. Yeah, So it was that back in the
day when like King Kong Bundy andTino Santia on these cards. No,
that was back in the day,like right after the battle a little Bighorn.
Oh right, right, right right, So I remember I remember Corollas
(04:14):
back then they did they did hadModel Te's Toyota Corollas. Nice. Okay,
mm hmmmmm. Who knew? Youlearned something new every episode of this
show. Yep, yep, we'rehistorians. I'm a historian. I'm a
(04:35):
historical figure. I'm not only partof history, I am history. Yeah,
so old, I'm history. Yeah, yeah, you're not right.
Yeah, yeah, oh I havea sounder for that. Yeah, well
(04:57):
you kind of missed your window,did You're right now you know what,
moment's gone. Yeah, yeah,there it is there. It is better
late than never. Dickhead, youknow what? The best you know what
the number one rule about comedy isnever say dickhead. Oh timing. Oh
(05:20):
yeah apparently, and it says beenuh on the Boons today? Yes,
oh, we're going back to theBoons the Boons wine. That's what I
want. We can't we can,which I'm I'm like ninety nine point positive
(05:41):
that in one kid rock song hementions Boone's wine. He probably does.
I think he does. I'm talkingabout kid rock with the bar. Yeah
he did. He did sleep withPamela Anderson. He did. That is
true him and Tommy. Right,do you think that's a half had to
(06:05):
write? I think Devin Dave did. Yeah, the half. Yeah,
you know I would say, yeah, I mean, I you know,
let's be honest, I don't.She wasn't she wasn't really a hard yeah
(06:27):
right, I mean I don't know, giving it away, kind of passing
it out. Okay, this isn'tabout let's get back into this podcast is
about me. Let's talk about me. What is nothing? All right?
(06:54):
Well, good talk? Do youhave a show? You don't have any
time? Fool we again? Uh? I did something? What did I
do? Yes? The Philly wasthis week. Let's pass week. Oh
I know you did? You didthe Alpha show, didn't you? Yes?
I did. I did. That'swhat it was. Yeah, I
(07:15):
wrestled the Chico. Every time Ithink of it, I want to say
Chico Holmes. That was the wreceiver on Troy Troy who I ended up
getting kind of in the fight with. But it wasn't that. That wasn't
him. We're thinking of Iceman Icemcclearly, the running back. It's McCleary.
(07:43):
Yeah, oh yeah, you're right, you're right. It wasn't Yeah,
you're right, you're right right.So back to Chico and the man.
Yeah, Chico Adams I wrestled fromYeah. Uh. Show was a
nice tribute to Off. I gotto see off I got this the family,
(08:09):
you know, and and it wasit was an honor to pay tribute
to him and to his family forall that they've done for the industry,
and and it was just nice tosee the turnout backstage of the amount of
people that you know, we're we'rethere to celebrate mm hmmm in some way,
(08:37):
you know it was it was nice. I was glad to be a
part of it. Nice. Yeah, good stuff, good show, good
show. I would assume I didn'tsee much of it. I did see
I I saw low Key and Iwant to say, his name is Vertigo,
(09:03):
who was like the champion wxw's champion. And you know low Key's always
low Key's always good. I meanfrom an in ring standpoint, you really
can't do much better. And youknow low Ki's it's my flavor of ice
(09:24):
cream, so to speak. AndExus is martial arts in really really well.
You know, an argument can bemade for him mixing his martial arts
into his pro wrestling better than anybodyin the world, or at least at
the very least in the top andtop five, top three. Like I
said, the argument can be madefor number one. So I appreciate that
(09:50):
stuff because I noticed some of thejiu jitsu in some of his grappling early
and his transitional stuff, and that, you know, that's just stuff I
appreciate and if nobody else in thebuilding appreciates it, that's fine. But
I know that like I do,and I would imagine, like that's a
conversation I could have with Kevin aboutyou know, just you just yeah,
(10:13):
that's cool the way that some ofthat stuff can be connected to our industry.
I'm appreciative of it. Yeah,yeah, good she it were you
there? I was not there.I was not there. I did watch
the Roman Reigns biography on any lastweek. I did as well, right,
(10:39):
and I watched it. I didn'tget through the whole thing, but
I watched a good portion of it. I think it was the night before
I went off us to the wXwtribute show, and I didn't watch it
for that reason. I just happenedto, you know, become aware of
it being there, and so Iwatched it, and then it was kind
(11:01):
of full circle to then go therethe next day and I mean we're talking
the same family. Yeah, wellyou would you take on it? I
liked it. It was it wasdefinitely interesting, uh, and it's it
was nice to see and kind ofget the backstory as to how he became
(11:26):
and accepted the role of you know, the tribal chief and all that and
how you know, leading up tothat where he was doing the other stuff
and they were let you know thatyou heard the stories about them shoving him
down the fans throat, and thenfor him to just kind of be like,
fuck it, I'm gonna do whatI gotta do and become the tribal
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chief. Thought I really enjoyed it. I liked it, didn't love it
because I thought, at times,you don't it was kind of blurry for
me. It's at at times Igot to share, if you's Roman Reigns,
the guy that Roman Rains the characterwere I don't know. Well,
I mean, he does say inthere though, that the distinction between Joe
(12:11):
and Roman Reigns are that blurred lineis supposed to be blurred lines. It
does a good job with that.Yeah, right, kind of agreeing.
But then I will also say thatI really enjoyed it because it gives some
(12:39):
backstory to what things were like whilehe was going through some of the rough
around the edges, turmoil and thatthis way, and so then it to
me it speaks even more to theperformer he's become that and a lot of
(13:01):
that uh not so great stuff iswhat makes him who he is today.
So it's like it's a testimonial almost, you know, for people coming up,
young guys coming up, I wouldsay in the business obviously, but
(13:22):
I'm just gonna say in the world, like coming up as a as a
man, you know you're gonna gothrough some of the toughest shit you go
through. And I guess this comesdown to, like what your faith is
and do you have faith or don'tyou or have you not just not discovered
it yet, because I know thatthere was a time in my life that
(13:45):
I did not have the faith thatI have today. And I think that
like it conditions you to understand thatyou know, it's not on the truest
word words to me or that likeit's not on my schedule, it's on
his and his being God or ourcreator, our you know, the Lord,
(14:09):
whatever you want to get. Andif that's the case, then a
lot of these times when you're atthe bottom, you know you're and you
think can't get any worse, andyou're having that pity party, you might
be in the thick of like beingprepared for what's to come next, and
(14:35):
prior to going through that difficult time, you weren't ready to receive what's coming,
so you can't have one without theother. And I think that that's
very much what that documentary that this, at least the story I was picking
up was very much that of thing, and because I've lived similar circumstances,
(15:09):
you know, outside of I'm noteven talking wrestling. I'm just talking,
you know, in having faith andthings not being ready to receive at a
time when I thought like oh,and then realizing like man, I'm thinking
that, like wow, it can'tget any worse. And yeah, I
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just think I think it was agreat like redemption sort of story, and
then it leads itself to We've talkedabout it on this podcast before about the
Bloodline being this amazing story. I'dsay it's the biggest story in wrestling right
now that's still going. I justwatched in Minneola, Florida, after Mania,
(16:02):
a whole independent show throw up theone, and there was a you
know, a point. I thinkMaddie posted it too. There was a
thing where they did the I thinkit's called the hakka. Yeah, I
think you're right, and they didthat in the ring, and then a
(16:22):
bunch of like guys that were inthe ring, and these are indie guys
and some of them are family,you know, of the Annoy family,
Anawai'i family, and some of themwere just you know, indie workers and
some of you know, it kindof spanned the whole spectrum, but they
did this thing to honor Off andthen like a bunch of like all of
(16:49):
them, almost they're holding up theone and some people are doing it just
because they're followers, and some peopleit doesn't it almost didn't even matter.
It was I'm just talking about howpowerful it was, you know, just
to watch that and it unified thesepeople. However many were in that building.
Let's say there were seven hundred peoplein that building, and it unified
(17:10):
all of these people in twenty twentyfour. You know, unity is not
easy to come by in this countryon any level, let alone in the
wrestling world. I mean, obviouslyon the grand scheme of things, nobody
everybody seems to be divided. Butin the wrestling world too, that division
is there as well. It's soyeah, the tribalism and fandom has become
(17:34):
insane to unify people like that,And I can't believe it took this long.
For as long as that family hasbeen putting out professional wrestlers, it
took this long to kind of bringthis kind of story to light, because
before you don't really know everybody wasrelated. Like I would have never known
Yokuzuna was actually part of that family. I thought he was a fucking sumo
(17:56):
wrestler and I thought he was Japanese. Well what they call a mark,
Dennis, you're a mark that wouldbe a smart fan. I'm not one
of those. And I was gonnasay, I mean that in the nicest
way possible, but I truly do, like I'm just because I don't like
(18:18):
the term mark and I don't liketo use it whenever. But mark comes
from back in the carnival days.A mark was the you know, the
the ticket paying customer. You know, they were a mark because they didn't
they hadn't seen how the doughnuts weremade yet. And it's just some of
(18:40):
it. It's just old vernacular.But like I do get a little bit
of a kick out of it whenyou see people online throwing the terms around
and mark and babyface and heel andyou know, work and shoot, It's
like, God, none of thisis for you, right, none of
it. Well, the access hasbecome so grand for the fans now,
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I mean Aside from all the bullshitthat's on the internet, there are countless
podcasts just like this one. I'mgonna take a step further though. This
has been going on for the lasttwenty years though, with the with the
ur video shoot videos, when guysare coming out really exposing the stuff the
back, saying all the stories,tell them the dirt, tell them the
(19:29):
things that they probably should have beensaid. And started out with a few,
and then I grew and everybody didit. Yeah. Well, I
mean, it's whatever's gonna make money, and right, something's gonna make money,
then everybody's gonna start doing it.And when Vince did it to get
out of paying the athletic commissions,that being the main reason why he was
(19:52):
so forthcoming, it gave everyone inthe industry the green light too, if
they could justify it to themselves.And listen, I mean, we're human
beings. If you want to dosomething bad, now, you'll find a
way to justify it. True.True separates us from you know, the
(20:15):
cats and the dogs and theirs.Yeah, oh my uh anyway, and
I just think that like, yeah, it's just it's just going too far.
And you know, you have youjust have you know, huge examples
of of the fact that it's goingtoo far. You know, you look
(20:38):
no further than some of the stuffthat you see on TV and some of
the stuff we saw on TV recently. You know, there's just too much.
You know, I think they'll theWWE dont pretty a job trying to
get bring back the happy medium,Like now, it's where I kind of
(21:00):
think we grew up on that.That must add to Arabe a step behind
that, where there's some storytelling,there's which good showmanship, there's some athletic
ability. I don't want to hearstuff that I shouldn't know from behind the
curtain type stuff. I think sometimesguys put that interviews. It's like I
can talk about I think the fanshave been conditioned, and I think and
(21:22):
I learned this early on, youknow, from that I had respect for
and still have immense amounts of respectfor. But like a guy like William
Regal and the you know, thethis you're supposed to be interested in what
(21:45):
you've what you're paying to see.You know, as soon as we got
the shoe. On the other foot, it's fine and you can dabble in
it, but you can't make itall about that, and once it does
become you know, once that balancegets upset too much, inspide in the
(22:07):
wrong direction. That I think someof the messier things that we've ended up
with in the industry modern day havebeen a result. Oh true, Like
you don't ca fabe is it's notthere anymore, and the lynch pins that
(22:30):
people being able to provide for theirfamily is not maintaining cave fab anymore.
So in some ways that's really goodfor the people occupying the industry, you
know, I mean that we wewe can be seen with each other and
(22:52):
not you know, blow our coverand possibly ruin our career aspirations, et
cetera. But in another way,it sucks because of the other stuff that
it's done. Yeah, and don'tknow, it's funny that we were talking
(23:17):
earlier about the bloodline and the storyand how that storyline has become probably the
I would have to say, oneof the best storylines that professional wrestling has
ever seen. And it's not evenclose to being over. No, That's
what I'm saying. And this willkind of be a little bit of a
segue. So can you guys fillme in? Just because I heard about
(23:41):
it and I knew it was happening, but I didn't know how soon it
would would be coming together. ButTama Tongo was leaving New Japan and I
knew that, and I worked withTama for years in New Japan. So
I'm actually very interested in have notwatched SmackDown, but I was told that
(24:07):
he debuted on SmackDown last week.What had it been? Okay, and
you guys saw this and before westarted recording, you had mentioned it,
but we didn't really get into it. So Phil Phil a brother in so
brother because he's dead. So wow, it was still meat. I have
(24:33):
a little darkness. Hello, dartedfriend, you're my boy, Blue,
He're my boy. So let's see. They had what's as of right now
left of the bloodline with the Rockand Roman being out, you know,
doing whatever it is that they're doing. So is that stated on TV?
(24:56):
Like have they said like, okay, the Rock and Roman are away?
Yeah? So because the Rock theRock came out and said that he had
to go away for a while,and he told that because that's when he
got in the ring with Cody onRaw after Mania, I think, and
told him he was going away.I'll see you when I get back.
We're not done, and he putssomething in his like I think it was
(25:19):
his I think it was his panties. I'm not sure. Don't quote me
on that, like maybe a dirtysock or something. Maybe the sock that
he hides under in between his mattressand his box spring. Yes, it
is. It is public knowledge thatthe Rock is gone for a while to
do to prior obligations, the Romanthing. I think he was he was
(25:48):
due for some time off. Sothere's that. So right now we had
the Wise Man with Solo and Jimmy, which was this It started as the
segment and Solo, Uh, theylet him talk on SmackDown, which is
(26:08):
that's a rare rarity, but itwas kind of a there's consequences to losing.
And it started with it had avery uh like Michael Corleone and and
the Fredo vibe to it because hegave him a hug and they were like
(26:30):
hugging it out, and that's whenJimmy was attacked from behind by the new
member of the bloodline. You know, an interesting way to like keep it
in that with that vibe, butto just take it in like kind of
a new direction, as if insteadof like hugging him, they like French
(26:53):
kissed. Huh yeah, I meanI'm sure that the only there's there's only
a few places that would have goneover, one of them being the very
Deep South. Yeah, because theyare they're legitimate brothers, so it's kind
of weird. But yeah, I'mI would have done that. But it's
(27:14):
just another director. It's just analternative. It's like a decent Yeah,
yeah, it's definitely alternative words andjust take that out in post production should
probably, So that's when is itTamama Tonga? That's by the way,
(27:37):
that's a tongue twister. Why am a tonga t o? By the
way, is the son of isthe son of Haku? One of the
baddest men walk in the world,maybe the baddest. And there's another one.
(28:00):
Yeah, I listen, we weregoing to turn his name. In
fact, I think we should stillgo back and do it into a shirt
on Bobbyfish Apparel dot com. Thefunniest clip on any social media platform is
(28:21):
Haku laughing hysterically at what's his name, Fred Atman the shock Master, falling
through the wall because he's startly laughing. So then maybe we need that for
a T shirt and then on theback it says, you know, keep
your ship up, just talk verbhakou your ass. Yeah. So that's
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when we were introduced to Tama intothe bloodline. Now they have the Silent
Killer that is Solo and Tom whojust appears to be psychotic. So they
had Tom. Did Toma talk orno? No? He just yeah.
(29:15):
Yeah. So they beat the Jimmy. It was from what they said,
uh, orders from the tribal chiefto do so, but that's all they
said. They didn't say from Roman. They said, it was just the
(29:37):
tribal chief. There's it is kindof setting up. Oh and they had
Paul Hayman scared to death that thatport Man was scared for his He literally
he legitimately looked like he was afraidfor his life, which anyway, but
it's a nice it feels like they'resetting up, which I think would be
(30:00):
awesome. And I've heard some talkabout it is Survivor series War Games bloodline
versus Bloodline. That's cool. That'dbe should be pretty fucking awesome. Yeah,
that's pretty cool. I mean obviouslynothing confirmed on that, it's all
just speculation, but it would bea mean Jimmy and Jay to get back
(30:22):
together. Roman goes the different route, gets with Jimmy and Jay, and
then you have Solo, Tama andwhomever else. It almost doesn't matter.
There's plenty of family members to goaround, as we've discussed, So maybe
(30:45):
maybe at some point working Sammy backin with that as well, which would
be kind of awesome. Yeah,that was pretty cool. Well, by
the way, I had one ofthe all time great entranes last night.
Know if I agree about me comingback in really yeah, I don't think
I like that because I don't thinkI think that story was told and you
(31:15):
know, lightning doesn't strike twice andSammy doesn't need that story, and that
story doesn't need Sammy. True,I really think that. You then you
just I think it's like one ofthose too much of a good thing scenarios,
(31:37):
like you just don't muck the water, keep them right there. But
like sam he will be in whateverstory he is in will be compelling because
he's that good of a performer,and the bloodline story doesn't need him,
(31:57):
and he doesn't need the bloodline,you know, Like I just I truly
think, no, don't don't doit. Not like a good idea,
but I just don't think so well. I think the scenario that I heard
it in was kind of like,you know, if they bring Roman back
and and he he he flips andit's no longer the evil like the heel,
(32:24):
it would kind of help get himback in the good graces of the
fans and stuff like that. ButI see your point. You know,
it's He's not that it's not likehe would be a main cog in that,
and it's not something that would beneeded. It would just be a
callback to him being that honorary membertype thing. But I'm I'm here for
callbacks, but I think callbacks needto be like brief one hitter this point
(32:52):
because Sammy has established his ye Idon't know. I mean, I listen,
I'm not in a position to bemaking these decisions. It's just my
two cents now. For for aWar Games match, it's four on four,
(33:15):
correct, yeah, But I meanyou can always play with the numbers.
I think five on five before.I think I could be right.
I could be wrong. I don'tknow, you may be right, I
may maybe crazy. Always four wasit five? I think it's gone bold
(33:39):
on four. We've we did thefirst one with three. The first War
Games that they brought back was threeon three on three, right right?
It wasn't aop and Roddy and Dyversus me, Kyle and Adam and who
(34:01):
were the other ones? The otherthree guys and that didn't we? Yeah?
And Sanity right right right right right? Was it? Sanity? Yeah?
Yeah, yes, yeah, ey e y Damo. And he's
(34:30):
got a different name now, butAxel Axel Tisher is his name now.
But he was what was he?I don't remember anymore? What was he
in Sanity? Was it? Iremember? Doesn't bode well for us front
of the show. He for wellfor me? It's the concussions. So
(34:51):
I have an excuse. You guysare on your own. You will not
be getting Christmas cards from Axel.Yeah. Oh I think I've already been,
you know, taken off his list. I didn't get one of the
last time. Wolf Wolfy well Dameo, Yeah, yeah, Wolfing Dameo.
(35:15):
That's how I know them. Iwill always refer to them as Wolfy and
dame O will always be to me. But any who, Right, so
that was the first War Games andit was three on three on three.
Gotcha? Oh, you can prettymuch do whatever you need to do.
Yeah, I mean they're they're incharge, so they can do whatever they
(35:37):
want. The team versus the teamversus maybe another team or maybe not right.
Really, anything goes. Let's gothree on three. Anything goes,
get done, dirty, Frank,the rules are there are no rules.
(35:58):
Let the war game beg You soundlike I gus. You sound like Haku
would laugh at you, the sameone. That's a sound by You need
DNIS. What's that HAWKU laughing?You know what I would buy on pay
(36:21):
per view hunk beating the ship outof Frank? Wow? I would I
would pay to see that. Whydon't we set that up for the podcast
live? I'll do it. Yeah, you'll take one for the what if
you want? You're going to takean ass women from Haku. I mean,
(36:42):
I appreciate your dedication, man,but we don't even get paid for
this ship like you have in mind. Holy hell. Let's go back to
Sammy's entrance last night in Montreal.I didn't see it. That was awesome.
Hey, I did see something ona gay catching a ton of heat,
Fuck you Gable because he turned onSamuel last night. I assume that
(37:06):
that's what it was. I assumein Canada. So was it the Parken
back to Rocky three? Did theyrevisit that moment at Mania, the one
we talked about. Yes, well, they had the match last night and
Samy one and Sammy's kissing his wife. Gable comes up behind him. I
think you've a billion of backup thenthe match and just starts going to town
(37:30):
on him kissing him. Yes,Oh wow, they had homo sexual affairs
like a love triangle. Damn it. Yeah, I gotta, I really
gotta keep this heterosexual. I'm uh, I'm struggling where a podcast for all
(37:51):
people we are, but that tendsto be Yeah, I gotta. I
have to edit that out to djust made a note as soon as you
started with it, I'm like,well, fucking look what time it is
timestamps. So yeah, I meanwell yeah, I mean they did that
(38:17):
to Sammy forty five minutes from wherehe grew up, so it's like there
was a the crowd was slightly behindSammy. But his entrance, if you
do get a chance to go backand watch it was great. Comes in
from like he goes, I'm comingin here like I came in here as
a fan through the front door,which I still don't know what him and
(38:37):
Jay were looking at when Jay walkedout there. Jays yes, USO had
the match right before it where hebeat Finn right with Finn balor Yeah,
because it was Finn was supposed totake him out because he's Jay is now
the number one contender to face DamianPriest for the belt at back Clash.
(39:00):
Wow, Finn was supposed to Finnwas supposed to take him out, did
not do that. So Jay takesout all of Judgment Day, which was
awesome, and then like just leavesthrough the crowd. The camera follows him
through the concourse of the arena.Jay walks out the front door, and
Sammy's standing there and just looking up, and they still did they never said
(39:25):
what he was looking at, becauseJay walks up, he was what are
you looking at? And they're bothjust kind of staring up in the air.
And then that's how and Sammy thensays, I'm coming in tonight the
same way I came in when Igrew up as a fan. Here through
the front door, he walks back. He just basically does the exact opposite
of what Jay did, walks throughthe crowd all through the fucking crowd,
(39:46):
it was awesome and then had hismatch. Yeah, I'm gonna have to
go back and watch this. Soit just sounds man, it all just
sounds great. It sounds like,I mean, just think about how much
talent they're utilizing, you know,and they're getting the people are getting opportunities,
(40:14):
and they're hitting you know, homeruns and then you know there's good
supporting cast too. That that's youknow, coming up big, hitting triples
and doubles and you know everybody's gettingon base. Is basically the analogy I
think I'm looking for it there.It is. Yeah, they're i mean,
(40:36):
they are definitely hitting on pretty mucheverything. And now in goont they're
building up that CHAMPI the Intercontinental Championshipthe way that he did. Uh.
So they've had you know, aquote unquote great mid card champion as it
was, and now and Sammy takingover. He pulled out some great ship
last night, just stuff that youknow, you really haven't seen from him
(40:59):
probably years. Where he was therewas a lot of callbacks to like the
El Generico ship and all that,and it was you've got room for all
that stuff. And I'm gonna justand I'll only touch on this briefly and
then we moved past it because Idon't want to like spoil it in any
(41:19):
way. But you know, whatis the flip side to the Sammy Coin
equation right now? To me,it's guns who's now able to move on
to the main event picture true?Who was just proven as you know,
(41:47):
the secondary like that's that's the timehonored tradition of the way business is booked.
And you know, I don't wantto I don't feel like I need
to point it out even but likethe people or person that seems to be
(42:10):
in control, he's a he's atraditionalist, he's a true historical Yeah,
I mean he's a he's a he'sa professional wrestler and pro wrestling dude of
the game who is a historician ofthe game the game. Well, look
(42:35):
at the history for harp Shaw,Michaels, Ray Savage, all held up
belt and all went on to winthe world championship. Yeah. And I'm
not saying that that's the way allof this is going to go and that's
going to fall right that order,and who knows anything, but I'm just
I'm just pointing out some of thethings that maybe some people might not if
(43:01):
they only look at things on thesurface that they might not put connect dots
with. This is where my braingoes, and I see all the possibilities.
You know, you're use established guysto make other guys established, But
(43:22):
you don't do that by just havingthese established guys all of a sudden do
the job. But there's there's anart to the way that this stuff gets
done. And you're watching it rightnow. Amian pretty now in the main
(43:43):
event picture at a time before Gunteris in the main event picture because I've
been freed up because you he justmade Sammy, and Sammy was already pretty
well made, but it was youknow, Sammy being made from stuff that
he's done in the past. Butyou know, a lot of it from
(44:07):
the Bloodline, which was a spinoff of the Bloodline, which is now
the main conflict of WrestleMania. Andyou know, it's like, yeah,
I don't it's just so well woventogether and there's so many shout outs and
(44:28):
callbacks and yeah, it's the nuanceman, Nuance is everything. Yeah,
just sounds cool, man. Ihaven't even watched most of this, is
hearing a lot of this from you, and uh, it just sounds yeah,
just sounds great, you know,and now and now Toma Tonga is
(44:52):
there, uh, which I justI'm just happy to see another guy I've
I've worked with, you know,and and broken bread with and ship ring
with. Like, just happy tosee the best for people. That's just
cool, very very cool. Ilike. I like the fact that it's
(45:13):
not there isn't just one like themain story and then everything else is all
just like wrestling matches, everything matters. Yeah, m hmm. Yeah,
it's it's gotten back to there's multiplestories going on. They're easy to follow
along with and everything that follow alongwith. That's the key it really is,
(45:36):
is you don't get the chance towatch every week. So if you
miss a week, I can comeback to Oh, I can pick up
where I left off. And I'mnot over analyzia, I'm not. It's
easy listening. And that is oneof the one of the benefits of the
internet too, is I can ifI miss stuff, I can go on
to X formally known as Twitter,and and I feel like we should move
(45:59):
away from I'm saying that, likeevery time someone says X, you have
to like reference that it used tobe Twitter. Uh. Anyway, that's
just me. But you can catchup pretty quick and see the highlights of
the stuff that you missed the nightbefore or whatever the case may be.
So you said that this is oneof the like positives. Yes, social
(46:21):
media, one of the positives isis that you can catch up on that
stuff. Would you say, like, what would another of those social media
positives be for you? Would itbe or the Internet positives for you?
Would that be I don't know,Frank porn? Oh yeah, absolutely all
(46:45):
right. I just wanted to youknow, it helped me locate the Bougoggy
Lounge that was that was the Internetthat did porn. Of course there is
are you kidding me? The MogoggyLounge has boxed lunch. Oh my god.
(47:08):
One thing that you missed was Rheahad to vacate your title. Why
injury? She's gonna be out Iguess like six to eight months with a
shoulder injury. Oh man. Butthen in the Mania match, or they're
saying it happened on Raw after ManiaLive, Morgan threw her into the wall
(47:31):
and damaged their shoulder. So they'reputting it on live. Who Rea put
out for eight months? I thoughtyou meant Matt Morgan. I don't know
who that was. Yeah, Liveokay, but so yeah, so Ria
put her on the shelf for eightmonths, toward her shoulder out of the
(47:51):
socket, and Live who's on herrevenge tour, threw Riha into the wall,
knocked her shoulder out, did whateverit is. But she's so she
had to vacate the title. Sonow it's, uh, the women's titles
up for grabs. She's on arevenge tour, correct, the Live Morgan
(48:12):
revenge tour. Remember Revenge of theNerds? Nerds? Yep, charge did
you guys have that guy Ogre atthe bar? One time we did?
He was we had a Revenge ofthe Nerds party and we hired Andrew Gibb
who was the actor that played Ogre, and we flew him in and he
(48:37):
was like our MC for the evening. We had like the Trojan horse in
the back of the bar. Mygod, you know he had like a
viking. Yeah, it was.It was pretty insane. So what's it
(48:59):
going on? I had to bringhim in for the show. I mean,
he's got to remember. It wasdefinitely in the thousands. But what
we did so like at that timein my life, the guys that I
partnered with to open that bar,they were you know, they kind of
taught me. They were like mentoringme on how to like run that business.
(49:22):
And so what we had done wasyou leveraged, like some of the
distributors against one another to get moremoney. And like DIEKRESENNI was obviously the
biggest, one of the biggest ones, so like there were any of the
smaller ones were always uh, youknow, trying to get their product up
(49:50):
front and center. And I don'tremember exactly how we did it, but
that left a lot of room forlike business stuff to get done. So
I think we ended up up gettinga few grand from a couple of different
distributors in order to pay for theflight and then to pay for his fee.
(50:10):
And he was peddling his own draftbeer at the time, so we
had that on special and it youknow, I don't know somehow it was
mutually beneficial for everyone, but yeah, you know, it definitely cost us
a couple of grand fee and afew grand to you know, get it
(50:34):
all there. But most of themoney we used for that wasn't ours.
Yeah, But now after all theconcussion, I forgot how to do all
that stuff. So my brain is, you know, I don't I can't
run a business. I was privilegedto host a party that Ryan Done and
(51:00):
uh it was it don don Vitofrom Ryan Mark No, no, no,
no, the guy from it wasRyan Done was from Jackass and it
was Bammar Jera's uncle there or whatever. The yeah, they came in.
It was at Sneaky Pets. Mmhm. That was an interesting night.
(51:22):
Let me tell you that. Youknow, Ryan Dunn, who's who's passed
away? But Don Vito was whata what an interesting character that guy was
mm hmm. Yeah. Thankfully therewas no cell phones, right, beepers,
(51:44):
there were beepers. No, no, no, no, this was
kind of Actually there were cell phones, but they weren't like now. It
was all flip phones. It wasflip phones. So it was an interesting
night. That was that. Thatwas that sneaky piece when they were on
Central Aba Hamony, But Frank,you look like you got a thought?
(52:07):
Am I wrong? No? Ithink right? Which one is it?
I said, you look like youhave a thought. Am I right?
You're like, no, I don'thave a thought. You're a hundred percent
right. Oh he's a regular wordsmith. I was almost as if I confused
(52:30):
you with my question. Yes,wise yes, So as we as we
start to wrap up, Bobby,what do you got going on? What's
in the opera here for you?Well, considering I could not remember what
I did last weekend? I fourtwenty You're at House of Champions. Oh
(52:50):
this, Yeah, I'm doing aseminar at House of Champions this Saturday,
nine to eleven, I think,yes, nine to eleven, Longwood,
Florida. I will be doing asigning. It's called Grapple Con Glory Days
(53:15):
Grapple Con in Orlando Saturday this comingSaturday. That will be from twelve to
four. I'll be doing a signingwith a bunch of people and it'll be
(53:35):
everything you know, eight x ten'sT shirts, trading cards, action figures,
all the stuff. And that's thisweekend action figures of you or just
like any action figure in general.Like if I show up with the roadblock
from g I Jo, you'll signthat? Yeah? Yeah, Joe,
Yeah, I mean I'll sign anythingfor twenty five dollars. I'll even sign
(53:58):
it with your somebody else's name outof it. I got bab Ruth photograph
this g I Joe toy right,you could get a Babe Ruth autograph signed
by Bobby Fish. Imagine that.Yeah, that's gotta be worth nothing.
It sounds like it, right,So there's that, and then I will
(54:25):
be wrestling upcoming Boca Ratton that isin May. Yes, I'm also May
(54:47):
eighteenth was just announced Malachi Black hasreleased it The Dark Art Jim in Plant
City, Florida. I'm gonna bedoing a seminar there as well on May
eighteenth. I'm doing some DDP yogaas well that weekend in Riverview. Let's
(55:14):
back up the train a little bit. Sunday, April twenty eighth, You'll
be wrestling at for eg c WExtreme Wrestle Fast Volume number three, okay
in Deltona, Yes, Deltona,Florida, sixteen forty doctor Mark Luther King
Boulevard, get your kicks down atevent bright dot com. Boom. You
(55:40):
don't tell me you're reading that atall, Frank, not at all at
all. You're doing You're doing avirtual I believe, doing a seminar also
there you are good? Okay,go, because I'm no better, I
figured sure skip over the whole wholebogoging. Sorry, but imagine well gift
over the whole month that we gotguys in October. I'll be in in
(56:07):
twenty sixteen, twenty twenty six Iwill be and you're right with House of
Champions. It is nine to eleventhis Saturday and twelve to four. I'll
be at the Rosen Center in RosenCenter A Rosen Yeah, the Rosen Center
(56:28):
Hotel twelve to four for Glory DaysGrapple Cohn doing a signing and previous to
that nine to eleven Pro Wrestling Seminarat House Champions, Longwood, Florida.
Correct correct, correct, Yes,I'm looking at this guest list for this
(56:53):
Grapple con Man. We got RonSimmons, Dan Hansen, one Man,
Gang, Kim Any Riddle, Zabisco, Missy Hyatt, Alparez, brand Is,
Bubs McGraw, Jack Victory, nextmet Mark Laurentz, A J.
Francis Frank I really I think youdon't care? Yeah, I mean it
(57:20):
really, the only reason they needand the only person they need to know
is going to be there is meand Ron Simmons. I mean, if
they're listening to this podcast, theyshould want to see me. I'm just
saying it to who's who A professionalwrestling then since Saturday Dam April twentieth.
I'm not sure if I like theway you're doing this, the show in
(57:49):
general, or just him promoting theother people that will be there, the
way we're both you know, theway he kind of takes liberties. Oh
he's a liberty taker. Look aloose cannon. You know you never pretty
taker rank for our friends watch toBoo Vier. Excuse me, Frank,
(58:13):
anything going on? No, nope, you don't want to plug any websites
or a YouTube channel on YouTube channel. We also Coliny Pitt m h friends,
John Martinez, good people doing theirthings, the Colony gold I sell.
(58:39):
I need to do that I've beenYeah, I need to go on
that show. Yeah yeah you do, mm hmm. Bobbyfish Apparel dot Com
for all things Bobby Fish merchandise related. John Martinez was my brother's best friend,
(59:00):
like like all of childhood. Yeahyeah, yeah, the least I
could do. And this show isfun. I've seen the episodes with you
and with Matt Yeah, I mean, and those guys are my my buddies
from way back. My memory ofJohn is my sophomore year and we had
(59:28):
a trainer, Tim Weston, andhe had a strong accent. And when
you walk in the room, misterMartinez on the table, mister Martinez,
what what accent is? That's itsounded close say this at this point,
but it sounded If I had towager a guess, I would say that
(59:52):
accent was retard. Yeah, yeah, I cut yep. All right,
we have four one end or nearlywouldn't mine, but uh, we're gonna
Yeah, but if I had awager, I guess it sounded kind of
(01:00:13):
like Arnold Schwarzenegger an Austrian, butnot quite. But then again, Frank's
Frank's impressions are notoriously wrong. Yeah, so's not. He's not the impressionist
on the show. We don't haveone of those. No, so we
do have a rapper though, Ohyeah, so did you did you write
(01:00:37):
something? Are you gonna freestyle?What? I? What the fuck?
Did you remember that? Really?What's my name? I don't remember?
It's been a week. I forgotmy name? All right, Well,
(01:00:58):
what he's one of you is gonnahave to remember the name, and then
I'll uh, it's so we mighthave to put it off another week.
Beca I'm gonna have to go backand listen to last week's show. Yeah,
damn it, Well it gives youanother week to write you mean one
(01:01:19):
I wrote this week? Oh soyou actually have some point out is that
I didn't? Right? Yeah?Well, looks like we're gonna have to
tease the listeners again next week.Bobby Fish rapping on the show, possibly
in front of the guest, rappingand crabbing. What my handle is once
(01:01:42):
we figured that out? And hisbest friend Bear remember that? What b
J McKay and his best friend jand the bear? Jamie? You don't
remember that? I don't. Iwatched it a kid growing up. Sounds
familiar, sounds like a movie.You watching the Bukkaki Lounge, Benzin.
Yeah, that was right after theysigned the Declaration of Independence in a saloon.
(01:02:12):
Yeah, good lord. All right, Well, I'm gonna plug my
shit that I got coming up.On April twenty seventh, I'm djaying a
Saint Baldric's event at Hudson Valley,So come out, get your head shaved,
raise some money for the kids andchildhood cancer and childhood cancer awareness.
That's all I got. I'm djaying. I don't even know what time.
(01:02:34):
It is, like a carnival themething So there's that. That's all I
got going on. Oh what ina couple of Aubity Firebirds games, I'll
be djaying, not the game,the block party beforehand. I'm doing the
one Saturday May May second, whichis a Thursday, and I'm doing a
Sunday one. Hey, we're doinga podcast. That's a that's my thirty
(01:03:00):
first Yes, yeah, details forthat coming soon. More bastling in Atlanta
for MLW on June first. Congratulations, you know, have a busy day
because your daughter's graduation is that morningmy daughters? Yes, yes, no,
that's before I leave Florida. Yeah. So on that note, boys,
(01:03:24):
i think it's time to call itan evening for the demipod. Bobbyfishmerol
dot com, Bobby Fish Booking sevenat gmail dot com. We got a
YouTube channel. You can find iton YouTube. Sign up for the seminar
(01:03:44):
this weekend if you're in the Orlando, Florida area, and then sign up
for if you're in the Tampa SaintPete Plant City area for the seminar May
eighteenth, and at the Dark ArtsGym. I'm not sure how limited that
(01:04:12):
that one specifically is going to be, because we're trying to make it a
bit exclusive, especially for the DarkArts students that are already there, and
then some other guests. So I'mnot entirely sure, but yeah, so
then you want to get in onthat, if you want to be a
part of that, get in onit as quickly as possible. Yeah,
(01:04:34):
there'll be a post going up onmy social media very soon, but there's
already one up on Malachi Black's socialmedia. I would assume it's probably up
on the Dark Arts Gym Instagram pageas well, but it'll be going up
on mine this evening if I getto it. If not tomorrow, fair
(01:04:59):
enough. Yeah all right, souh oh, and you know what,
if you want and you're on X, follow us on X. What's our
handle on X? It's like atw Underscore on Undisputed podpted shoo we do,
(01:05:21):
Scooby Doo. I think we.I think we'll just you find it
on on X. Good luck toyou. H On that note, say
good night Bobby, Good night Bobby,
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