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With AEW's All In PPV this weekend in London, Bobby Fish and The Demi Boys put their wrestling fan hats on and give their predictions for the show. It's not a what they think should happen but who they'd like to see win the matches on the card from the opening match to the main event.
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With AEW's All In PPV this weekend in London, Bobby Fish and The Demi Boys put their wrestling fan hats on and give their predictions for the show. It's not a what they think should happen but who they'd like to see win the matches on the card from the opening match to the main event.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The educated professional.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Him sell the show. And I mean, folks, where's the
lines for the undiscued podcast with Bobby Fish?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Boom boom boom, Let's go back to our room.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Really, that's what we chose.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Boom boom is what they call some sometimes like a
doodoo for like a little kid like got a boom boom? No,
did I just make that up? I'm going to make
that up.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Maybe maybe somebody might use that. I've never heard it.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Well, you don't count, okay, but Frank.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Was doing boom boom boom boom.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
But Frank doesn't count either. Frank doesn't county there.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Thinks just coming up with creative intros every week now hello.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Hello, Well you know, and the weird thing is that
Frank just kind of took it upon himself to start
doing that. Like, he didn't converse with us about it,
He didn't ask for it was a good idea, he
didn't like. I don't know. He might have spoke to
his wife about it. Maybe, I don't know. It wasn't us.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
He ran rock Rocko.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
The janitor at the high school. Yeah, Joe Simone, Yeah no, No,
it wasn't Rocco. No, remember Roco.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
It was Rocky one of the bus Rocky. Yeah, it
was Rocky.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I was I was kind of referring to his Frank's son.
Oh not not anyone from our past, oh more present. Yeah,
actually mostly your president. Yeah, how was your weekend?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Not means I mean, listen, he doesn't address anyone, he
just says it. He just you know, And then I'm
supposed to assume I guess.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I don't remember what my weekend was. I went to Yeah,
I just seminar at this place called the Establishment. Here's
a small world of this thing. Here's the kick in
the head. This gentleman named Marquise was us just such
(02:48):
a small world. He was trained by Dibdo here in Florida,
like at some point, and that was one of the things.
The first conversation we had over text or whatever he
had like mentioned something about it. But it gets to
(03:09):
be an even smaller world. So then I get to
the show, did the seminar and stuff, and there was
a lot of the House of Champions guys were there,
like a lot of the students, the members and stuff
that are with House Champions, and apparently Marquis is a
(03:31):
member there also, so like they they do, you know,
not just like ground up training. They have like workers
that are just looking to get ring time, stuff like that. Whatever. Anyway,
he has something to do with that as well. And
then here's the real kick in the head. He tells
(03:54):
me he's a barber and somethinking to myself like huh,
that's weird, that's weird. And then he tells me he
got his barbering license from my wife. Wow, my wife
taught him at Daytona State And he then brought up
(04:15):
another instance, which this is when my wife and I
first met back the first year that we dated. We
went to a New Japan show in Daytona, which is
close to where I live in Normand Beach, and I
brought my wife, who was my girlfriend at the time
(04:37):
with me, and Marquise was actually working that show as
a referee, and I remember when he brought it up.
I remember the instance of her of my wife going like,
I know that guy and he was one of my students,
and I just and just I don't know to put
(05:00):
all these things together. It was it was interesting, that's funny,
that's pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah, But seminar went really really well,
and I love doing them I do, okay, I just
I love doing them, and uh yeah, that's that's almost good.
(05:21):
It was a good, good turnout, good show that the
building that they ran out of was a CrossFit so
that was kind of cool. And it wasn't too far
from my house so that made life a bit easier also,
So yeah, it was good, good all the way around.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
When you're doing these seminars or you're seeing any common themes.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I'm pretty pretty, I'm pretty. I'm pretty when I every
once in a while I catch a glimpse of myself
and I just think to myself, like, wow, you're you're pretty.
You're pretty. That's the weird. Is that weird? Now?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Okay, so you have to be a little more specific.
Common theme.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
You like doing it?
Speaker 5 (06:26):
What is it that's constantly got get constant? Why you
like you love doing seminars? What is it that's.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I feel like there's a lot of spontaneity and a
lot of like the I struggled to come up with
the ending to put on this word earlier today when
I was talking about this, but the organic it would
(07:00):
be like, yes, yeah, that could work. The organicness of
the in ring is something that's not being taught. I
don't think. I don't think, and if it is, it's
it's somehow I don't know. It's not translating or something.
(07:25):
And I think that there's a lot of uh, we're
just gonna call it paint by numbers, and there's no
soul in paint by numbers. Paint by numbers is like,
you know, I the analogy I use for paint by
numbers is like, you know, you go to the toy
store and you get that paint by numbers, right, and
(07:46):
every place there's a five, you paint it green. Every
place there's a three, you paint it yellow. It is
just a picture with no heart. And I think that
that's the same kind of thing happens with wrestling sometimes
when it's I mean, I hate the inside baseball terminology,
(08:10):
but let's face it, like it's it's an evolved situation,
and people do it way worse than I'm going to
right now. But when it's high spots a high spot,
you've now prostituted a high what a high spot is
(08:30):
supposed to be? A match full of high spots is
It's just it's stupid, you know, And that's what I
think is the most prevailing thing is that that's the
way that people tend to wrestle these days, or think
(08:53):
that they they that's what that's the best way to
go out and do it. And I'm not saying that
I haven't been guilty of similar I have, you know.
I mean when in Rome you do as the Romans do,
and like you know, there were a lot of times
with TV Wrestling and even in Japan and different, you know,
just different times in my career where it was like, well,
(09:15):
you know, you just did what everybody else was doing.
But now with twenty five years of doing this, like
I just I see, I just have a different perspective,
and that's part of what I love, like sharing with
people and hoping I swear I see, I see some
(09:38):
light bulbs go off. Maybe they're just good at acting
like something's going on.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Is it kind of like back in the day with
East Dedby came around and everybody was doing the hardcore
stuff and then that panned away and came back to
the old stuff, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
No, I think it's just you know, it was my
generation that kind of caused a lot of this because
everybody talked about you know, working and people love to
(10:19):
say working on the fly, or but like there's no
such thing. It's just working, that's what working is. Working
has nothing to do with high spots, Like putting together
high spots is not working. But because so many people
have been allowed to see the way the donuts are made,
(10:41):
and they don't actually like understand what they're being told
or really understand what it is they're seeing, like being
a good worker has just gotten bastardized, or being a
good you know, being able to work has just become
(11:04):
something it's not supposed to have ever meant. And you know,
to steer this back in a positive direction, I think
I'm getting an opportunity to kind of just show them
the spontaneity and how much more fun that is because
(11:27):
that personally, like I find that to be way more
fun than going out and running through a list of
high spots. And that list of high spots. This is
the thing that I share with every group I speak to.
(11:48):
Once you get done with your list of high spots,
the only two assholes who know your list of high spots,
like in the order of them, so that that the
only two that would know if you, you know, messed
something up. Do you know who that is yourself. M hm.
(12:14):
The only two assholes assholes that know, are you? So
if that's your basis for whether we had a good
one or not, like nobody is, like the audience isn't
feeling it, you know, the the the stuff that gets
talked about, you know, for the the guys that we
(12:38):
watched growing up, you know, Seawn Michaels and I don't
they're Brett Hart like that. What they talk about are
moments like so you feel something, it's it's something you feel,
not something there's no feeling in in a bunch of
high spots, man, there's no feeling. I'm preaching the the choir.
(13:04):
But yeah, what did you say?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
What do you think Dennis, Dennis about What do I
think about what he just said?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Or what are your thoughts on the subject?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
What are your thoughts? Denise?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Okay, I would have to say whatever, I would have
to say. One of the reasons, and I could be
talking out of pocket here. One of the reasons you
enjoyed the seminars so much in teaching these kids or
these people is because you get to share the knowledge
that you've acquired that they may not be getting from
other people, because they may be learning to wrestle the
(13:41):
way that seems to be the popular way now, where
you're kind of taking your knowledge and your style of
what you learned and passing that on to these kids
as well and helping them become more rounded professionals.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I would say there's a piece of that too. It
for sure. I feel like the you know, the things
I've learned from William Regal and fit Finley and you know,
Shaun Michaels, they're not for me to like cove it
and keep right, you know, They're like some of these
people may never be exposed to those people for one
(14:20):
reason or another. And that the Terry Taylor's of the world.
I mean, God, just being around the man, you just
pick up so much and some of these people will
may you know that I encounter, may never have that opportunity.
(14:41):
And I feel like those people, the things that they
taught were so valuable that they need to be passed along.
They need to make it into the next generation. If not,
it's like a you know, it's a it's a disservice
to the industry. Agreed.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
I would definitely agree Kark Taylor from the most underrated guys,
at least from I know on TV, I think heither
a bed rap for bed rooster gimmick.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Well, I think that you look at that and that
it actually speaks to him as a performer, like I mean,
talk about making chicken salad.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
I like chicken salad.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Okay, you know, you know h Dallas on his because
he has like a little chef segment on his app
and uh, there was something the other day with I
Gotta go I'm tired. Oh yeah, Jake was making a
(15:55):
chicken salad with Dallas.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Interesting but anyway, yeah, just point being like that was
kind of a goofy gimmick, right, but he I mean,
you can either cry over your shitty luck or you
go make the you know, that's what he did.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Man, it's still talked about today, so we're talking about it.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
So yeah, there you go the same. Yeah. I mean,
and you know, let's face it, Vince was notorious or
is remembered at least notoriously for having done stuff like that.
And the list goes on. I mean, the yellow polka
dots and the red rooster and so who knows. I mean,
(16:44):
the actual truth is probably not even decipherable at this point.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I mean, yeah, coming up this weekend. Got is this
weekend Joel Henry.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yes, Sunday Sunday, Sunday Sunday Joe Hendry. And then next
week I'm in New York. Next week I go MLW
New York City.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, and then we have the Imagine Dragons concert in
Tampa May the Missus and the little One.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
You're wrestling at the Imagine Dragon Show.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Oh no, oh, okay, just going Oh it's probably best.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah, I thought this was all about.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
Me, got it?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah, Frank, we've talked. We've talked enough about everyone else.
Let's talk more about me. What do you think? Guys?
How's that sound?
Speaker 6 (18:00):
M Frank?
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Favorite moment in your career?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Who are you talking to me?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
You want to be about me? So let's go there.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Why ever, I don't know, it'd be hard to narrow
it down to one.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Give me three. I don't really know three.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Half give me half of your favorite one?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Mm hmmm, I don't know. I'd have to say. Win
in the Ring of Honor tag titles with Kyle was
was pretty cool. It wasn't like super received well, but
(19:00):
like going into the Manhattan Mayhem against Cole for the
world title with Ring of Honor that was pretty cool too.
Like I think being a guy that like then late
in later years was painted with the you know, well
he's a tag team guy brush and whatever. That was
(19:23):
Like it was a nod and an opportunity to step
out of that role and be something more. And I
actually kind of enjoyed what Cole and I did in
that match. And in that match we did work quite
a bit. We didn't have a bunch of like high spots,
(19:45):
ironically enough. But then there's you know, obviously the wargame
stuff is always remembered fondly, some of the Tokyo Dome
stuff where we talked about Trevor right at the beginning
of this about Ricochet. I remember there being a three
(20:11):
way tag with the Bucks, me and Kyle and Sidel
and Ricochet. That might have been a four way that
might have been with Trent and Rocky too. But yeah,
I mean there's just so many and it's not because
(20:32):
of like what's kind of lost on it for me
is like, oh, well, you won this title or that title,
or you know, like I could care less. It's really
you know, the moments and the people that I shared
it with, you know, those are you know, Rocky and
Trent and Sidel and Trevor, the Bucks and Kyle like
(20:57):
the we would all be able to say one or
two words and the other you know, seven people in
the room would would know exactly what you were talking
about in the moment because of those things, and you know,
that kind of stuff is just yeah, you can't put
(21:18):
a price tag on that, you know, That's the stuff.
I think that means more to me than anything else
the first time at NXT, like knowing how exciting things
were before we even were going to get signed or
before we really knew. I remember Triple H talking to
the room after one of the TVs, and I think
(21:41):
I've told this story before, so I won't retell it,
but I do remember after him, I've given a little
bit of a pep talk or a speech at post game.
You know, I had a little raw raw to it,
and i'd be an ex football guy and I think
you can really frank like, I like that kind of stuff.
(22:02):
And I just remember feeling like, man, I want to
play for this guy, and that was cool, especially to
think like, huh, I think I might be going to
get an opportunity to Yeah, yeah, just stuff like that,
you know, I don't want to throw names, but that's
(22:26):
exactly what this is gonna well, that's exactly what this
is going to come off as. But you know, having
the ability to ask Shawn Michaels, maybe the greatest performer
of all time, to wish somebody from my family a
happy birthday, you know, was and yeah, and him do it.
(22:52):
And I was able to like send it, you know,
to think that those were moments and not you know,
a friend of mine's life, but they were my life
like that. That's that's cool.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
Yeah, you know most people asked that question and they
automatically go, well, I won the championship here, I won
this belt.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Hair one did this. This is a totally different spentadectical.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I mean, I'll be honest, I have probably more reverence for,
you know, beating Justin Pierpoint at the Armory in Albany
(23:45):
in that first kickboxing fight that I did, because it
was that was competition and I was nervous and I
was unsure, and I was you know, fearful. And let's
say I didn't experience those things that like the Tokyo
Dome or going into war games or whatever, but it
(24:07):
was just different. And I remember those things with reverence,
and they were you know, awesome hallmarks in my career
because that was my career, let's face it, like that
was how I paid bills. But I don't know. And
you can relate to this too, both of you. Like
(24:28):
your athletic career. That's the real stuff, like you know,
that's where you win or lose on your merit and
you got nobody to blame or pat on the back
but yourself. And then the people that did it with
become like, you know, they're like the they're the people
(24:52):
in your foxhole. And that's not a weird way of
saying okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
That's my universal sign for don't say it. Stopped talking?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, what was that sign? So I don't miss uh.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
Nope, nope, we got it.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, okay, yeah, I bypassed.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
I got it out. Yep.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I ran right by that. I went for a run
tonight when you guys, when we were talking about what time,
and I said like, yeah, I just I'll do my best.
I'm walking home, went for a bit of a run.
No no, no alligators, no alligators. You know. Interestingly enough,
(25:49):
I have these barefoot shoes now, these really super minimalists
and uh. I had to run in them a couple
of times now and the few times and like I
got them for that reason. But then I thought, like,
you know, there there's nothing to them, like you're really
(26:10):
kind of running and with like uh, aqua socks on basically,
and I swear, I my back, I am better running
in those, like I swear cushiony shoes have retarded our feet.
(26:30):
And then like it's the it's the gospel, it is
the truth. Wearing the minimalist, the next to nothing shoes
like my shoes I can literally put in the washer.
My sneakers, I can fold them up. I had them
in I could put them in my pocket basically, and
(26:51):
they like I've never felt better running and like I'm
easing into it. I'm not like just out there like
I'm just gonna go run. But like the other night
I ran probably two miles.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
And the impact from ground that the impact doesn't body
at all.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
No, it actually what Here's what I think is happening
is I'm more mindful of the way that I run
and I think about it while I'm running, and I
run less heavy because of it, and because I used
to get my low back will get sore and my
(27:29):
like now, the only thing they gets sore is sometimes
the top of my feet. But that even feels like
the next day, when I'm expecting them to be like excruciating,
they feel stronger. I can't really explain it. And the
toe spacers are another thing that like, I don't know, man,
(27:50):
I think my feet are just strengthening, and I think
I had no idea that they were lacking strength until now.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Do you enjoy the pedicure?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Do I enjoy getting one?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Do you give me one?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
No? No, I've never given one, and I really you know,
I mean maybe my wife I could give one too.
I don't think she would want mine. But I like
getting them. I don't. Yeah, I don't dislike it, but.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
I've never had one.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah, just call me baby though I did.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I did, and I'm not talking about baby doll. Play
buddy baby.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
I'll talk about baby down all right.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah, I don't know why, Frank, I picture you smoking
cigarette while you're getting your pedicure.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I am one hundred confident when I say this.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
I am pretty sure they're making fun of me in
the native tongue as they are giving me a pedigre.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
Of course, they are they.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Are saying, oh, this guy, what is this guy doing?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Of course why what? What do you think they're making
funny for? Like cause your feet are like gnarly or
I don't know, I.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Don't know, I don't know. I just feel like I'm
being made fun of.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
How can I hurt your feelings if you don't know
what they're saying.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
It's just the problem the premise they're saying bad things, but.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
You don't your feeling.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
Your feelings are being hurt on an assumption.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
By the way, correct, I mean that makes up a
lot of who we are. Honestly, it's your well just yeah,
like I mean not you. You have ways of perspectives
and ways of receiving things that are all based on
(30:03):
your trauma. And we all have trauma. And like, for
years I remember feeling like, no, I don't have trauma,
but everyone has trauma. Some trauma's worse than others, but
it's all some kind of trauma just when you're growing up,
(30:23):
and that shapes it shapes who you think you are.
And then you start to realize as you get older, like, well,
it's not actually who I am, it's who I perceive
myself to be. But like I have a choice, Like
(30:44):
I can choose to I can choose to do whatever
I want. And I just think we fall into these
thought patterns and I don't know. It's like, yeah, I
(31:05):
see some of them in my own in myself, and
first step is becoming aware of some of them. You know.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
Yeah it was heavy?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, good, So much for the wrestling, that's all right.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yeah, we're showing our dynamics.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, first first showing our diaphragms.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
I left mine out?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Oh okay, So speaking of verse versatile, was there a
follow up that just there was? There was supposed to be,
but then there was not?
Speaker 6 (31:50):
Gotcha?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Do we want to run down the a e W
all in Car this week?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
I can see why. I don't see why we shouldn't.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
Let's talk about it.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Let's go off the top of the bottom, all right,
Main advent is gonna be the A e W World
Champion camp.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
What's that noise?
Speaker 2 (32:14):
My shake?
Speaker 6 (32:17):
What's that noise? That's great, that's that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
We're gonna go title verse career. Huh Okay, Swerve Strickland.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Versus Bryan Danielson, Well, I'm gonna say Swerve wins this one.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
So I'm assuming Danielson's career is up on the line.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Okay, yeah, well you know I I don't. I'm reluctant
to say anything. Well, I mean, maybe he'll a pick.
I mean the pick is kind of I know.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
I know it's predetermined.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
But let's ask about this. Well, but that's what I'm
saying is like it's you're making it makes it difficult
to suspend your just believe.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Good night, honey, good night here. That was willow good
night to her too.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
I thought, I'm just kidding tonight us.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
No, No, I guess as you ask her who.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Ask he who she's who she thinks gonna win?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Ask her she's in bed.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
That's why you said good night? Like what did you say?
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah, that's not the way he.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
Greets her when she walks in.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Good night. Yeah. Is everybody drunk in your house?
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Everybody drinking?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
No? Be sure. So here's my issue with it. I
there is no issue with it. Let's just put like
Danielson's had a legendary, epic, epic career swerve, is in
a place right now that he was never supposed to be.
(34:34):
You know, Brian's a pro, and they're going to go
out and you know they're gonna they're going to have
a good one. I think they're going to be given
the green light to do whatever they want. My thought
(34:56):
is with Brian, you know, being in a c of
a lead role there like Brian's. You know, Brian knows
how to do all of it. There's nothing Brian's not.
So I think this will be a great send off
and a great opportunity for Swerve to to be on
(35:19):
the level with a guy that I'm sure he grew
up watching, you know, so, I mean it sounds freaking awesome.
To be honest, I'm expecting, you know, really good to
you maybe steal the show.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Possibly, let's go the a W Women's World Championship, Timeless,
Tony Storm and Maria May.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I don't know who Maria May is.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Ye I am not a I'm not a fan for
the bits and pieces. I've watched the Tony Storm stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I haven't seen a lot of it's it's what.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Soft core born?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Really? Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Okay, the TBS Championship Britt Faker and Mercedes Monette.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Mm hmmm, just that.
Speaker 6 (36:36):
It Frank, what a what are you looking for from you?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Are we just going over the matches or.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Some opinions, some thoughts, maybe a pick?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Okay, okay, so should we just keep it somewhat uniform
and pick at least so I would have to say
Tony Storm for the last one because I don't know
the other girl. Uh and so, and with Danielson and Swerve,
(37:09):
I think Swerve goes over. I think Swerve wins. I'm
I think Brian, see this is what I don't like.
This is what I don't like because you're like, as
(37:30):
a wrestling You're supposed to consume this as a wrestling fan.
So I'm going to consume all of this as a
wrestling fan. My heart's with Brian. I want Brian to win.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Then that's when we get that's your pick. That's how
we're gonna do this. That's how we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Okay, Okay, Tony Storm is gonna win because I don't
know the other girl. And then I think Monette beats
Brett Baker.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
Any No, I'm I'm so far what he said.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I'm with Okay, I'm gonna flip it out the go
Baker beats Money, Okay.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Next man, which one of them?
Speaker 6 (38:22):
Is the TVs champ right now? Is it? Bray?
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (38:28):
So now it's the a W America Championship Offspray versus
m j F.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
I'm going my pick for be Offspring.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Who won the last one?
Speaker 3 (38:48):
I think, oh, didn't they go to draw?
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I don't know. That's why I asked her. H yeah,
because I think whoever won the last one will not
win this one.
Speaker 6 (39:11):
Yeah. I go with m j F on this one.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
I like offspac At in his hometown, Beg of the Woods.
We should say give him home?
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Are you giving him home field advantage.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
For all of the UK?
Speaker 6 (39:33):
All of the UK?
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Okay, okay, fair enough, let's go.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
All right?
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Uh? Who else?
Speaker 5 (39:46):
Darby Allen, Jack Perry for the TNT Championship. Something crazy
wapping this match.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
That's the fucking most obvious statement you could have ever said. Yeah, Carvey,
Allen's in the match. Something crazy is happening.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Mm hmmm. Yeah, I'm going with Darby. I'm going Derby, Darby, Derby.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
To steal a shameless line. That one's that that's gonna
be a banger. I don't think Jack jumping Jack Perry
jumping Jack Flash Luke Perry.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Okay, ft W Championship Hook and Chris Jericho.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Mm hm.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Hm hm.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Also, it should be noted that the TNT Championship with
Perry Allen is in a coffin to call the match.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Oh, I thought the whole match was going to be
wrestled in a coffin.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Doesn't great?
Speaker 1 (40:53):
It was. They just lay there next to each other and.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
They have like a kids, same contests. Oh yeah, it's weird.
It's weird in that coffin. Yeah, I guess I'll say hook.
I want to say I want to hook.
Speaker 7 (41:19):
I guess jokes about yeah, well yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Yeah, yeah, I want to say hook. And I'm gonna
keep my reasons to myself, but this.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Was too interesting For the a W Tag Team Championship
f TR the Acclaimed and the Young Bucks.
Speaker 7 (41:46):
I think it's got to be the Acclaimed. Really, Yeah,
I'm gonna go FTR.
Speaker 6 (42:00):
Dan's I'll take the Bucks.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Mm hm.
Speaker 6 (42:06):
One of us, the right.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
One of us is That's that's true.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Now, this one seems to be a little bit much
vogo if its a London ladder match for the a
W Trio Championship with the Bank Band Gang, Juice Rabbits
and the Guns, House a Black, Blanchot, Brodian, Buddy m
as A Mystery.
Speaker 8 (42:32):
Team and Christian Cage, Nick Wayne and Killswitch.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Mm hmm formerly Dinosaurus. Yes, whatever I got you. Yes,
m I'm gonna say House of Black. Yeah, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
I'm gonna go Bang band Club. I love Juice Robinson.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
How dare you bet against Malachai Juice Robinson?
Speaker 5 (43:07):
Yeah, leading off, leading off the epic?
Speaker 4 (43:12):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (43:14):
How many? How many? How many matches are there?
Speaker 6 (43:17):
This is the last one.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Yeah, it's a Casino Gautlet match. I am not sure
who's in this match. I think Kyle's in it.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Bristol hit it too, Orange Cassidy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Are Kyle and uh Brisco working together at the moment?
You have to.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Say, because one weight they are another week they weren't.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Okay, I thought I saw something with them too. I
was like, oh that sounds yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
They it's a good thing they keep it together. But
there's nine matches. This is potentially gonna have five hour
paper ye.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Well, I mean I yeah, like just gonna make people
stick to their times, and there should be times enforced,
and there should be I mean, the whole show should
have an EBB and a flow to it. That's the
(44:19):
other part of you know, putting together pro wrestling is
that there's in a match order and there's psychology behind that.
So if you just throw it out there like, it's
not going to have that same sort of ride. And
(44:42):
I'm not saying that like I'm smart enough to book
it the way it's supposed to be done. It's not
something I've ever been hired to do, so I guess
you you know, you learn as you go, and at
some point you just got to hope that whoever's calling
the shots they figure it out. I hope it's this weekend.
(45:06):
I would love nothing more than that. That would be
fantastic for them to have like a nice uh succinct
like Lockdown show that hits the mark and checks all
the boxes. Would be great.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
This is their big one, right, this is the Webley.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
It is a big one. Iron enough.
Speaker 5 (45:26):
A year ago is the whole thing with seem Punk
at Jack Perry happened.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Now, look where we are now a year later.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
They both their jobs.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
They both have jobs, and that's I mean, you know,
maybe because that's the way I see it now, you know,
they both still have jobs and at the end of
the day, like that's the stuff that matters, Like, that's
what counts.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
So so with the with the nine matches and the
possibility of this being an extremely long one day pay
per view, I kind of I can't. I kind of
don't have a problem with that because if you think
about it, WrestleMania is what three hours on each day,
(46:18):
So that's that's six hours of show spread out through
two days, plus pre show and post show. So I
mean they're technically doing like five six hours a day
for each day, so a five hour I think Mania
when it started, or like in the in the middle
of everything before they made it two days, was like
(46:40):
four and a half five hours long.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
He just was, Yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
I think you got to start it at a reasonable hour.
I mean, if you're doing a pay per view on
a Sunday, I don't want to be up till one
thirty two o'clock watching.
Speaker 6 (46:56):
Wrestling, so I got to work the next day.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
But no, I don't.
Speaker 6 (47:02):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
I don't have a problem with the work for that.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Well, we'll see.
Speaker 6 (47:07):
I hope that did anyone asked.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
I'm just saying, right, well, I think that you know,
there you've helped some people sleep because I think that
they were worried. They were like, I think most fans
are gonna be okay with it. But I don't know
about that radio guy in Albany. No, I'm not sure.
(47:33):
I'm not sure. He seemed iffy.
Speaker 6 (47:35):
Yeah, well, now.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
He's a character, remember mania though.
Speaker 6 (47:42):
I am it was.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
M Frank has a thought, I can I can feel
it ship I thought he had.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
All right, I think that's about it.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Then indigestion. Did he have indigestion? Yeah, of course of this. Yeah,
after that.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Pizza, that was me ball.
Speaker 5 (48:11):
I'm gonna pay the price for that, probably about five
o'clock tomorrow morning at the gym.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Oh, you know, the only one paying the price for that.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah, I'm not sure you're I'm not really sure. When
it's your brand, you're paying the price. It's all the other.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Fun folks at the at the gym that are paying
the price there. And on a bit of a somber
note before we say good night, condolences to Mike McFarland
who lost his mother.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Yeah, yeah, super sad. I don't know the details, but
I was actually on my my walk, my run, whatever
it was when I saw that I knew something was
going on earlier in the day, but I wasn't sure
(49:06):
what it was, and so I made sure to It's
just you know, it's tough, man, It's tough. It's it's
kind of a it's like one of those rights of
passage in our lives right as we get older. But
it's tough to what, you know, having gone through it myself,
(49:29):
it's tough to see other people going through it, or knowing,
not even seeing them, but just knowing that they are,
because yeah, it's you know, but again, it's it's part
of this whole whatever, this is life.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Yeah, and we'd be remiss to not mention just quickly
about Afha passing away since the last time.
Speaker 6 (49:58):
We recorded as well.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
M hmmm, so condolences to that entire tribe.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Yeah, I'm pretty crazy that they both passed. So, uh,
it was near.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
It was in months, like month, two months.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Yeah, it was closed. It was definitely close. So yeah, well,
may God have mercy on us all Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
Frank you any words of wisdom to add to.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
That, I've got nothing now.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
Person got into gestion. He does, that's what he's or
he will.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Move the bows boys, all right, Well, on the hold
of ship. Joke perfect, there we go, outstanding.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Say it, Dennis, Say good night, Bobby, good night.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
By
The educated professional.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Him sell the show. And I mean, folks, where's the
lines for the undiscued podcast with Bobby Fish?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Boom boom boom, Let's go back to our room.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Really, that's what we chose.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Boom boom is what they call some sometimes like a
doodoo for like a little kid like got a boom boom? No,
did I just make that up? I'm going to make
that up.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Maybe maybe somebody might use that. I've never heard it.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Well, you don't count, okay, but Frank.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Was doing boom boom boom boom.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
But Frank doesn't count either. Frank doesn't county there.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Thinks just coming up with creative intros every week now hello.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Hello, Well you know, and the weird thing is that
Frank just kind of took it upon himself to start
doing that. Like, he didn't converse with us about it,
He didn't ask for it was a good idea, he
didn't like. I don't know. He might have spoke to
his wife about it. Maybe, I don't know. It wasn't us.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
He ran rock Rocko.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
The janitor at the high school. Yeah, Joe Simone, Yeah no, No,
it wasn't Rocco. No, remember Roco.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
It was Rocky one of the bus Rocky. Yeah, it
was Rocky.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I was I was kind of referring to his Frank's son.
Oh not not anyone from our past, oh more present. Yeah,
actually mostly your president. Yeah, how was your weekend?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Not means I mean, listen, he doesn't address anyone, he
just says it. He just you know, And then I'm
supposed to assume I guess.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I don't remember what my weekend was. I went to Yeah,
I just seminar at this place called the Establishment. Here's
a small world of this thing. Here's the kick in
the head. This gentleman named Marquise was us just such
(02:48):
a small world. He was trained by Dibdo here in Florida,
like at some point, and that was one of the things.
The first conversation we had over text or whatever he
had like mentioned something about it. But it gets to
(03:09):
be an even smaller world. So then I get to
the show, did the seminar and stuff, and there was
a lot of the House of Champions guys were there,
like a lot of the students, the members and stuff
that are with House Champions, and apparently Marquis is a
(03:31):
member there also, so like they they do, you know,
not just like ground up training. They have like workers
that are just looking to get ring time, stuff like that. Whatever. Anyway,
he has something to do with that as well. And
then here's the real kick in the head. He tells
(03:54):
me he's a barber and somethinking to myself like huh,
that's weird, that's weird. And then he tells me he
got his barbering license from my wife. Wow, my wife
taught him at Daytona State And he then brought up
(04:15):
another instance, which this is when my wife and I
first met back the first year that we dated. We
went to a New Japan show in Daytona, which is
close to where I live in Normand Beach, and I
brought my wife, who was my girlfriend at the time
(04:37):
with me, and Marquise was actually working that show as
a referee, and I remember when he brought it up.
I remember the instance of her of my wife going like,
I know that guy and he was one of my students,
and I just and just I don't know to put
(05:00):
all these things together. It was it was interesting, that's funny,
that's pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah, But seminar went really really well,
and I love doing them I do, okay, I just
I love doing them, and uh yeah, that's that's almost good.
(05:21):
It was a good, good turnout, good show that the
building that they ran out of was a CrossFit so
that was kind of cool. And it wasn't too far
from my house so that made life a bit easier also,
So yeah, it was good, good all the way around.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
When you're doing these seminars or you're seeing any common themes.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I'm pretty pretty, I'm pretty. I'm pretty when I every
once in a while I catch a glimpse of myself
and I just think to myself, like, wow, you're you're pretty.
You're pretty. That's the weird. Is that weird? Now?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Okay, so you have to be a little more specific.
Common theme.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
You like doing it?
Speaker 5 (06:26):
What is it that's constantly got get constant? Why you
like you love doing seminars? What is it that's.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I feel like there's a lot of spontaneity and a
lot of like the I struggled to come up with
the ending to put on this word earlier today when
I was talking about this, but the organic it would
(07:00):
be like, yes, yeah, that could work. The organicness of
the in ring is something that's not being taught. I
don't think. I don't think, and if it is, it's
it's somehow I don't know. It's not translating or something.
(07:25):
And I think that there's a lot of uh, we're
just gonna call it paint by numbers, and there's no
soul in paint by numbers. Paint by numbers is like,
you know, I the analogy I use for paint by
numbers is like, you know, you go to the toy
store and you get that paint by numbers, right, and
(07:46):
every place there's a five, you paint it green. Every
place there's a three, you paint it yellow. It is
just a picture with no heart. And I think that
that's the same kind of thing happens with wrestling sometimes
when it's I mean, I hate the inside baseball terminology,
(08:10):
but let's face it, like it's it's an evolved situation,
and people do it way worse than I'm going to
right now. But when it's high spots a high spot,
you've now prostituted a high what a high spot is
(08:30):
supposed to be? A match full of high spots is
It's just it's stupid, you know, And that's what I
think is the most prevailing thing is that that's the
way that people tend to wrestle these days, or think
(08:53):
that they they that's what that's the best way to
go out and do it. And I'm not saying that
I haven't been guilty of similar I have, you know.
I mean when in Rome you do as the Romans do,
and like you know, there were a lot of times
with TV Wrestling and even in Japan and different, you know,
just different times in my career where it was like, well,
(09:15):
you know, you just did what everybody else was doing.
But now with twenty five years of doing this, like
I just I see, I just have a different perspective,
and that's part of what I love, like sharing with
people and hoping I swear I see, I see some
(09:38):
light bulbs go off. Maybe they're just good at acting
like something's going on.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Is it kind of like back in the day with
East Dedby came around and everybody was doing the hardcore
stuff and then that panned away and came back to
the old stuff, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
No, I think it's just you know, it was my
generation that kind of caused a lot of this because
everybody talked about you know, working and people love to
(10:19):
say working on the fly, or but like there's no
such thing. It's just working, that's what working is. Working
has nothing to do with high spots, Like putting together
high spots is not working. But because so many people
have been allowed to see the way the donuts are made,
(10:41):
and they don't actually like understand what they're being told
or really understand what it is they're seeing, like being
a good worker has just gotten bastardized, or being a
good you know, being able to work has just become
(11:04):
something it's not supposed to have ever meant. And you know,
to steer this back in a positive direction, I think
I'm getting an opportunity to kind of just show them
the spontaneity and how much more fun that is because
(11:27):
that personally, like I find that to be way more
fun than going out and running through a list of
high spots. And that list of high spots. This is
the thing that I share with every group I speak to.
(11:48):
Once you get done with your list of high spots,
the only two assholes who know your list of high spots,
like in the order of them, so that that the
only two that would know if you, you know, messed
something up. Do you know who that is yourself. M hm.
(12:14):
The only two assholes assholes that know, are you? So
if that's your basis for whether we had a good
one or not, like nobody is, like the audience isn't
feeling it, you know, the the the stuff that gets
talked about, you know, for the the guys that we
(12:38):
watched growing up, you know, Seawn Michaels and I don't
they're Brett Hart like that. What they talk about are
moments like so you feel something, it's it's something you feel,
not something there's no feeling in in a bunch of
high spots, man, there's no feeling. I'm preaching the the choir.
(13:04):
But yeah, what did you say?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
What do you think Dennis, Dennis about What do I
think about what he just said?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Or what are your thoughts on the subject?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
What are your thoughts? Denise?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Okay, I would have to say whatever, I would have
to say. One of the reasons, and I could be
talking out of pocket here. One of the reasons you
enjoyed the seminars so much in teaching these kids or
these people is because you get to share the knowledge
that you've acquired that they may not be getting from
other people, because they may be learning to wrestle the
(13:41):
way that seems to be the popular way now, where
you're kind of taking your knowledge and your style of
what you learned and passing that on to these kids
as well and helping them become more rounded professionals.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I would say there's a piece of that too. It
for sure. I feel like the you know, the things
I've learned from William Regal and fit Finley and you know,
Shaun Michaels, they're not for me to like cove it
and keep right, you know, They're like some of these
people may never be exposed to those people for one
(14:20):
reason or another. And that the Terry Taylor's of the world.
I mean, God, just being around the man, you just
pick up so much and some of these people will
may you know that I encounter, may never have that opportunity.
(14:41):
And I feel like those people, the things that they
taught were so valuable that they need to be passed along.
They need to make it into the next generation. If not,
it's like a you know, it's a it's a disservice
to the industry. Agreed.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
I would definitely agree Kark Taylor from the most underrated guys,
at least from I know on TV, I think heither
a bed rap for bed rooster gimmick.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Well, I think that you look at that and that
it actually speaks to him as a performer, like I mean,
talk about making chicken salad.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
I like chicken salad.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Okay, you know, you know h Dallas on his because
he has like a little chef segment on his app
and uh, there was something the other day with I
Gotta go I'm tired. Oh yeah, Jake was making a
(15:55):
chicken salad with Dallas.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Interesting but anyway, yeah, just point being like that was
kind of a goofy gimmick, right, but he I mean,
you can either cry over your shitty luck or you
go make the you know, that's what he did.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Man, it's still talked about today, so we're talking about it.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
So yeah, there you go the same. Yeah. I mean,
and you know, let's face it, Vince was notorious or
is remembered at least notoriously for having done stuff like that.
And the list goes on. I mean, the yellow polka
dots and the red rooster and so who knows. I mean,
(16:44):
the actual truth is probably not even decipherable at this point.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I mean, yeah, coming up this weekend. Got is this
weekend Joel Henry.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yes, Sunday Sunday, Sunday Sunday Joe Hendry. And then next
week I'm in New York. Next week I go MLW
New York City.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, and then we have the Imagine Dragons concert in
Tampa May the Missus and the little One.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
You're wrestling at the Imagine Dragon Show.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Oh no, oh, okay, just going Oh it's probably best.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah, I thought this was all about.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
Me, got it?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah, Frank, we've talked. We've talked enough about everyone else.
Let's talk more about me. What do you think? Guys?
How's that sound?
Speaker 6 (18:00):
M Frank?
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Favorite moment in your career?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Who are you talking to me?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
You want to be about me? So let's go there.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Why ever, I don't know, it'd be hard to narrow
it down to one.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Give me three. I don't really know three.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Half give me half of your favorite one?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Mm hmmm, I don't know. I'd have to say. Win
in the Ring of Honor tag titles with Kyle was
was pretty cool. It wasn't like super received well, but
(19:00):
like going into the Manhattan Mayhem against Cole for the
world title with Ring of Honor that was pretty cool too.
Like I think being a guy that like then late
in later years was painted with the you know, well
he's a tag team guy brush and whatever. That was
(19:23):
Like it was a nod and an opportunity to step
out of that role and be something more. And I
actually kind of enjoyed what Cole and I did in
that match. And in that match we did work quite
a bit. We didn't have a bunch of like high spots,
(19:45):
ironically enough. But then there's you know, obviously the wargame
stuff is always remembered fondly, some of the Tokyo Dome
stuff where we talked about Trevor right at the beginning
of this about Ricochet. I remember there being a three
(20:11):
way tag with the Bucks, me and Kyle and Sidel
and Ricochet. That might have been a four way that
might have been with Trent and Rocky too. But yeah,
I mean there's just so many and it's not because
(20:32):
of like what's kind of lost on it for me
is like, oh, well, you won this title or that title,
or you know, like I could care less. It's really
you know, the moments and the people that I shared
it with, you know, those are you know, Rocky and
Trent and Sidel and Trevor, the Bucks and Kyle like
(20:57):
the we would all be able to say one or
two words and the other you know, seven people in
the room would would know exactly what you were talking
about in the moment because of those things, and you know,
that kind of stuff is just yeah, you can't put
(21:18):
a price tag on that, you know, That's the stuff.
I think that means more to me than anything else
the first time at NXT, like knowing how exciting things
were before we even were going to get signed or
before we really knew. I remember Triple H talking to
the room after one of the TVs, and I think
(21:41):
I've told this story before, so I won't retell it,
but I do remember after him, I've given a little
bit of a pep talk or a speech at post game.
You know, I had a little raw raw to it,
and i'd be an ex football guy and I think
you can really frank like, I like that kind of stuff.
(22:02):
And I just remember feeling like, man, I want to
play for this guy, and that was cool, especially to
think like, huh, I think I might be going to
get an opportunity to Yeah, yeah, just stuff like that,
you know, I don't want to throw names, but that's
(22:26):
exactly what this is gonna well, that's exactly what this
is going to come off as. But you know, having
the ability to ask Shawn Michaels, maybe the greatest performer
of all time, to wish somebody from my family a
happy birthday, you know, was and yeah, and him do it.
(22:52):
And I was able to like send it, you know,
to think that those were moments and not you know,
a friend of mine's life, but they were my life
like that. That's that's cool.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
Yeah, you know most people asked that question and they
automatically go, well, I won the championship here, I won
this belt.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Hair one did this. This is a totally different spentadectical.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I mean, I'll be honest, I have probably more reverence for,
you know, beating Justin Pierpoint at the Armory in Albany
(23:45):
in that first kickboxing fight that I did, because it
was that was competition and I was nervous and I
was unsure, and I was you know, fearful. And let's
say I didn't experience those things that like the Tokyo
Dome or going into war games or whatever, but it
(24:07):
was just different. And I remember those things with reverence,
and they were you know, awesome hallmarks in my career
because that was my career, let's face it, like that
was how I paid bills. But I don't know. And
you can relate to this too, both of you. Like
(24:28):
your athletic career. That's the real stuff, like you know,
that's where you win or lose on your merit and
you got nobody to blame or pat on the back
but yourself. And then the people that did it with
become like, you know, they're like the they're the people
(24:52):
in your foxhole. And that's not a weird way of
saying okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
That's my universal sign for don't say it. Stopped talking?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, what was that sign? So I don't miss uh.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
Nope, nope, we got it.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, okay, yeah, I bypassed.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
I got it out. Yep.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I ran right by that. I went for a run
tonight when you guys, when we were talking about what time,
and I said like, yeah, I just I'll do my best.
I'm walking home, went for a bit of a run.
No no, no alligators, no alligators. You know. Interestingly enough,
(25:49):
I have these barefoot shoes now, these really super minimalists
and uh. I had to run in them a couple
of times now and the few times and like I
got them for that reason. But then I thought, like,
you know, there there's nothing to them, like you're really
(26:10):
kind of running and with like uh, aqua socks on basically,
and I swear, I my back, I am better running
in those, like I swear cushiony shoes have retarded our feet.
(26:30):
And then like it's the it's the gospel, it is
the truth. Wearing the minimalist, the next to nothing shoes
like my shoes I can literally put in the washer.
My sneakers, I can fold them up. I had them
in I could put them in my pocket basically, and
(26:51):
they like I've never felt better running and like I'm
easing into it. I'm not like just out there like
I'm just gonna go run. But like the other night
I ran probably two miles.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
And the impact from ground that the impact doesn't body
at all.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
No, it actually what Here's what I think is happening
is I'm more mindful of the way that I run
and I think about it while I'm running, and I
run less heavy because of it, and because I used
to get my low back will get sore and my
(27:29):
like now, the only thing they gets sore is sometimes
the top of my feet. But that even feels like
the next day, when I'm expecting them to be like excruciating,
they feel stronger. I can't really explain it. And the
toe spacers are another thing that like, I don't know, man,
(27:50):
I think my feet are just strengthening, and I think
I had no idea that they were lacking strength until now.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Do you enjoy the pedicure?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Do I enjoy getting one?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Do you give me one?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
No? No, I've never given one, and I really you know,
I mean maybe my wife I could give one too.
I don't think she would want mine. But I like
getting them. I don't. Yeah, I don't dislike it, but.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
I've never had one.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah, just call me baby though I did.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I did, and I'm not talking about baby doll. Play
buddy baby.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
I'll talk about baby down all right.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah, I don't know why, Frank, I picture you smoking
cigarette while you're getting your pedicure.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I am one hundred confident when I say this.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
I am pretty sure they're making fun of me in
the native tongue as they are giving me a pedigre.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
Of course, they are they.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Are saying, oh, this guy, what is this guy doing?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Of course why what? What do you think they're making
funny for? Like cause your feet are like gnarly or
I don't know, I.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Don't know, I don't know. I just feel like I'm
being made fun of.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
How can I hurt your feelings if you don't know
what they're saying.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
It's just the problem the premise they're saying bad things, but.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
You don't your feeling.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
Your feelings are being hurt on an assumption.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
By the way, correct, I mean that makes up a
lot of who we are. Honestly, it's your well just yeah,
like I mean not you. You have ways of perspectives
and ways of receiving things that are all based on
(30:03):
your trauma. And we all have trauma. And like, for
years I remember feeling like, no, I don't have trauma,
but everyone has trauma. Some trauma's worse than others, but
it's all some kind of trauma just when you're growing up,
(30:23):
and that shapes it shapes who you think you are.
And then you start to realize as you get older, like, well,
it's not actually who I am, it's who I perceive
myself to be. But like I have a choice, Like
(30:44):
I can choose to I can choose to do whatever
I want. And I just think we fall into these
thought patterns and I don't know. It's like, yeah, I
(31:05):
see some of them in my own in myself, and
first step is becoming aware of some of them. You know.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
Yeah it was heavy?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, good, So much for the wrestling, that's all right.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yeah, we're showing our dynamics.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, first first showing our diaphragms.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
I left mine out?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Oh okay, So speaking of verse versatile, was there a
follow up that just there was? There was supposed to be,
but then there was not?
Speaker 6 (31:50):
Gotcha?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Do we want to run down the a e W
all in Car this week?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
I can see why. I don't see why we shouldn't.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
Let's talk about it.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Let's go off the top of the bottom, all right,
Main advent is gonna be the A e W World
Champion camp.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
What's that noise?
Speaker 2 (32:14):
My shake?
Speaker 6 (32:17):
What's that noise? That's great, that's that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
We're gonna go title verse career. Huh Okay, Swerve Strickland.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Versus Bryan Danielson, Well, I'm gonna say Swerve wins this one.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
So I'm assuming Danielson's career is up on the line.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Okay, yeah, well you know I I don't. I'm reluctant
to say anything. Well, I mean, maybe he'll a pick.
I mean the pick is kind of I know.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
I know it's predetermined.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
But let's ask about this. Well, but that's what I'm
saying is like it's you're making it makes it difficult
to suspend your just believe.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Good night, honey, good night here. That was willow good
night to her too.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
I thought, I'm just kidding tonight us.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
No, No, I guess as you ask her who.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Ask he who she's who she thinks gonna win?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Ask her she's in bed.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
That's why you said good night? Like what did you say?
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah, that's not the way he.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
Greets her when she walks in.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Good night. Yeah. Is everybody drunk in your house?
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Everybody drinking?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
No? Be sure. So here's my issue with it. I
there is no issue with it. Let's just put like
Danielson's had a legendary, epic, epic career swerve, is in
a place right now that he was never supposed to be.
(34:34):
You know, Brian's a pro, and they're going to go
out and you know they're gonna they're going to have
a good one. I think they're going to be given
the green light to do whatever they want. My thought
(34:56):
is with Brian, you know, being in a c of
a lead role there like Brian's. You know, Brian knows
how to do all of it. There's nothing Brian's not.
So I think this will be a great send off
and a great opportunity for Swerve to to be on
(35:19):
the level with a guy that I'm sure he grew
up watching, you know, so, I mean it sounds freaking awesome.
To be honest, I'm expecting, you know, really good to
you maybe steal the show.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Possibly, let's go the a W Women's World Championship, Timeless,
Tony Storm and Maria May.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I don't know who Maria May is.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Ye I am not a I'm not a fan for
the bits and pieces. I've watched the Tony Storm stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I haven't seen a lot of it's it's what.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Soft core born?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Really? Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Okay, the TBS Championship Britt Faker and Mercedes Monette.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Mm hmmm, just that.
Speaker 6 (36:36):
It Frank, what a what are you looking for from you?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Are we just going over the matches or.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Some opinions, some thoughts, maybe a pick?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Okay, okay, so should we just keep it somewhat uniform
and pick at least so I would have to say
Tony Storm for the last one because I don't know
the other girl. Uh and so, and with Danielson and Swerve,
(37:09):
I think Swerve goes over. I think Swerve wins. I'm
I think Brian, see this is what I don't like.
This is what I don't like because you're like, as
(37:30):
a wrestling You're supposed to consume this as a wrestling fan.
So I'm going to consume all of this as a
wrestling fan. My heart's with Brian. I want Brian to win.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Then that's when we get that's your pick. That's how
we're gonna do this. That's how we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Okay, Okay, Tony Storm is gonna win because I don't
know the other girl. And then I think Monette beats
Brett Baker.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
Any No, I'm I'm so far what he said.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I'm with Okay, I'm gonna flip it out the go
Baker beats Money, Okay.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Next man, which one of them?
Speaker 6 (38:22):
Is the TVs champ right now? Is it? Bray?
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (38:28):
So now it's the a W America Championship Offspray versus
m j F.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
I'm going my pick for be Offspring.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Who won the last one?
Speaker 3 (38:48):
I think, oh, didn't they go to draw?
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I don't know. That's why I asked her. H yeah,
because I think whoever won the last one will not
win this one.
Speaker 6 (39:11):
Yeah. I go with m j F on this one.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
I like offspac At in his hometown, Beg of the Woods.
We should say give him home?
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Are you giving him home field advantage.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
For all of the UK?
Speaker 6 (39:33):
All of the UK?
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Okay, okay, fair enough, let's go.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
All right?
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Uh? Who else?
Speaker 5 (39:46):
Darby Allen, Jack Perry for the TNT Championship. Something crazy
wapping this match.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
That's the fucking most obvious statement you could have ever said. Yeah, Carvey,
Allen's in the match. Something crazy is happening.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Mm hmmm. Yeah, I'm going with Darby. I'm going Derby, Darby, Derby.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
To steal a shameless line. That one's that that's gonna
be a banger. I don't think Jack jumping Jack Perry
jumping Jack Flash Luke Perry.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Okay, ft W Championship Hook and Chris Jericho.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Mm hm.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Hm hm.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Also, it should be noted that the TNT Championship with
Perry Allen is in a coffin to call the match.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Oh, I thought the whole match was going to be
wrestled in a coffin.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Doesn't great?
Speaker 1 (40:53):
It was. They just lay there next to each other and.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
They have like a kids, same contests. Oh yeah, it's weird.
It's weird in that coffin. Yeah, I guess I'll say hook.
I want to say I want to hook.
Speaker 7 (41:19):
I guess jokes about yeah, well yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Yeah, yeah, I want to say hook. And I'm gonna
keep my reasons to myself, but this.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Was too interesting For the a W Tag Team Championship
f TR the Acclaimed and the Young Bucks.
Speaker 7 (41:46):
I think it's got to be the Acclaimed. Really, Yeah,
I'm gonna go FTR.
Speaker 6 (42:00):
Dan's I'll take the Bucks.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Mm hm.
Speaker 6 (42:06):
One of us, the right.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
One of us is That's that's true.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Now, this one seems to be a little bit much
vogo if its a London ladder match for the a
W Trio Championship with the Bank Band Gang, Juice Rabbits
and the Guns, House a Black, Blanchot, Brodian, Buddy m
as A Mystery.
Speaker 8 (42:32):
Team and Christian Cage, Nick Wayne and Killswitch.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Mm hmm formerly Dinosaurus. Yes, whatever I got you. Yes,
m I'm gonna say House of Black. Yeah, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
I'm gonna go Bang band Club. I love Juice Robinson.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
How dare you bet against Malachai Juice Robinson?
Speaker 5 (43:07):
Yeah, leading off, leading off the epic?
Speaker 4 (43:12):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (43:14):
How many? How many? How many matches are there?
Speaker 6 (43:17):
This is the last one.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Yeah, it's a Casino Gautlet match. I am not sure
who's in this match. I think Kyle's in it.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Bristol hit it too, Orange Cassidy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Are Kyle and uh Brisco working together at the moment?
You have to.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Say, because one weight they are another week they weren't.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Okay, I thought I saw something with them too. I
was like, oh that sounds yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
They it's a good thing they keep it together. But
there's nine matches. This is potentially gonna have five hour
paper ye.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Well, I mean I yeah, like just gonna make people
stick to their times, and there should be times enforced,
and there should be I mean, the whole show should
have an EBB and a flow to it. That's the
(44:19):
other part of you know, putting together pro wrestling is
that there's in a match order and there's psychology behind that.
So if you just throw it out there like, it's
not going to have that same sort of ride. And
(44:42):
I'm not saying that like I'm smart enough to book
it the way it's supposed to be done. It's not
something I've ever been hired to do, so I guess
you you know, you learn as you go, and at
some point you just got to hope that whoever's calling
the shots they figure it out. I hope it's this weekend.
(45:06):
I would love nothing more than that. That would be
fantastic for them to have like a nice uh succinct
like Lockdown show that hits the mark and checks all
the boxes. Would be great.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
This is their big one, right, this is the Webley.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
It is a big one. Iron enough.
Speaker 5 (45:26):
A year ago is the whole thing with seem Punk
at Jack Perry happened.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Now, look where we are now a year later.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
They both their jobs.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
They both have jobs, and that's I mean, you know,
maybe because that's the way I see it now, you know,
they both still have jobs and at the end of
the day, like that's the stuff that matters, Like, that's
what counts.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
So so with the with the nine matches and the
possibility of this being an extremely long one day pay
per view, I kind of I can't. I kind of
don't have a problem with that because if you think
about it, WrestleMania is what three hours on each day,
(46:18):
So that's that's six hours of show spread out through
two days, plus pre show and post show. So I
mean they're technically doing like five six hours a day
for each day, so a five hour I think Mania
when it started, or like in the in the middle
of everything before they made it two days, was like
(46:40):
four and a half five hours long.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
He just was, Yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
I think you got to start it at a reasonable hour.
I mean, if you're doing a pay per view on
a Sunday, I don't want to be up till one
thirty two o'clock watching.
Speaker 6 (46:56):
Wrestling, so I got to work the next day.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
But no, I don't.
Speaker 6 (47:02):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
I don't have a problem with the work for that.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Well, we'll see.
Speaker 6 (47:07):
I hope that did anyone asked.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
I'm just saying, right, well, I think that you know,
there you've helped some people sleep because I think that
they were worried. They were like, I think most fans
are gonna be okay with it. But I don't know
about that radio guy in Albany. No, I'm not sure.
(47:33):
I'm not sure. He seemed iffy.
Speaker 6 (47:35):
Yeah, well, now.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
He's a character, remember mania though.
Speaker 6 (47:42):
I am it was.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
M Frank has a thought, I can I can feel
it ship I thought he had.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
All right, I think that's about it.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Then indigestion. Did he have indigestion? Yeah, of course of this. Yeah,
after that.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Pizza, that was me ball.
Speaker 5 (48:11):
I'm gonna pay the price for that, probably about five
o'clock tomorrow morning at the gym.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Oh, you know, the only one paying the price for that.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah, I'm not sure you're I'm not really sure. When
it's your brand, you're paying the price. It's all the other.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Fun folks at the at the gym that are paying
the price there. And on a bit of a somber
note before we say good night, condolences to Mike McFarland
who lost his mother.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Yeah, yeah, super sad. I don't know the details, but
I was actually on my my walk, my run, whatever
it was when I saw that I knew something was
going on earlier in the day, but I wasn't sure
(49:06):
what it was, and so I made sure to It's
just you know, it's tough, man, It's tough. It's it's
kind of a it's like one of those rights of
passage in our lives right as we get older. But
it's tough to what, you know, having gone through it myself,
(49:29):
it's tough to see other people going through it, or knowing,
not even seeing them, but just knowing that they are,
because yeah, it's you know, but again, it's it's part
of this whole whatever, this is life.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Yeah, and we'd be remiss to not mention just quickly
about Afha passing away since the last time.
Speaker 6 (49:58):
We recorded as well.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
M hmmm, so condolences to that entire tribe.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Yeah, I'm pretty crazy that they both passed. So, uh,
it was near.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
It was in months, like month, two months.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Yeah, it was closed. It was definitely close. So yeah, well,
may God have mercy on us all Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
Frank you any words of wisdom to add to.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
That, I've got nothing now.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
Person got into gestion. He does, that's what he's or
he will.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Move the bows boys, all right, Well, on the hold
of ship. Joke perfect, there we go, outstanding.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Say it, Dennis, Say good night, Bobby, good night.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
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My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.