June 14, 2024 • 54 mins
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This week on the show Bobby and The Demi Boys catch up on what they got into last weekend. For Bobby it was Rivercity WrestleCon. It was a weekend full of taking pictures, signing autographs and of course kicking a couple of dudes in the face, legs, chest and other body parts. For Frank it was experiencing The Belmont Stakes which took place in Saratoga, NY. And for the good DJ, D. Scott it was DJ'ing the 1st Annual 518 Futures All-Star softball game. Then the fellas get into some talk about the docuseries "Who Killed WCW" for a little bit. They give their thoughts on the 1st episode and what they think might've gone wrong with the company. Then they get into some AEW talk. Bobby gives his opinion on Swerve Strickland and Will Ospreay and the work that the two are doing. Round it out with some Major League Wrestling (MLW) and also Father's Day talk and you have yourself a complete show!
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This week on the show Bobby and The Demi Boys catch up on what they got into last weekend. For Bobby it was Rivercity WrestleCon. It was a weekend full of taking pictures, signing autographs and of course kicking a couple of dudes in the face, legs, chest and other body parts. For Frank it was experiencing The Belmont Stakes which took place in Saratoga, NY. And for the good DJ, D. Scott it was DJ'ing the 1st Annual 518 Futures All-Star softball game. Then the fellas get into some talk about the docuseries "Who Killed WCW" for a little bit. They give their thoughts on the 1st episode and what they think might've gone wrong with the company. Then they get into some AEW talk. Bobby gives his opinion on Swerve Strickland and Will Ospreay and the work that the two are doing. Round it out with some Major League Wrestling (MLW) and also Father's Day talk and you have yourself a complete show!
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(00:02):
The most educated professional professor him theshow. And I mean, folks,
where's the lines for the undisc podcastwith Bobby Fish? And we're back captivating
episode of the podcasts on the Creatingcontrolled network. That's your favorite DJ and
(00:28):
that's below me MLW star Bobby JoeFish. I think I like you said
cap debating, but it sounded likeyou said cap. Yeah. This gave
him an excuse to me on thefucking show. Great. Yeah, so
(00:51):
how would your wikend? My weekendwas good. I was, what's that
ahead? No, but you goahead. I was going to ask you
what you did. I thought youwere gonna. I thought you were going
to remind me what I did forthe weekend because I don't remember. Oh
(01:12):
boy, it was River City WrestleCon. Oh, river City Wrestle Con.
So the first day my table wasnext to Big Veto. Actually,
(01:32):
the second day my table was nextto Big Veto as well, but it
wasn't supposed to be the second day, but yeah, and it was.
So we have a friend in common. Duke loves wrestling. Yeah, yeah,
(01:55):
yeah, So that was cool andit was good to shoot the ship
a little bit with Big Video.And then the second day I was also
my table was close to uh Debon, so that was good. I got
to uh chop it up a littlebit with his his daughters. They were
(02:16):
there too. He's got little littledaughters at work. Uh yeah, three,
I think he's got three, mighthave four, did you guys work?
I think they are yeah, yeahyeah, and then he's got two
two little ones. And then uhso I wrestled Sunday in a triple threat
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match. It was John Davis,Me and uh bo Jack bo Jack.
This was the first time I wasuh in a the first time I met
him. First time I obviously wrestledhim or whatever. But yeah, it
was good. Every everything went good. I helped uh kind of uh run
(03:13):
the locker room, helped out throughthe weekend, so that was that was
cool. Got to, you know, do some some different things other than
just perform. So it was fun. Yeah, it was fun. You
say, hand the locker rooms outthere myself, what does that mean?
(03:38):
To do the laundry you know,wa gift Yeah, water catering. Yeah,
well I didn't cook, but likethey had kind bars and stuff and
I would fill the bowls when theywere Yeah, I replaced the toilet paper
(04:01):
in the lock the Yeah. Yeah, sounds like a pretty prestigious role.
I'm glad that you were able tohelp out. Yeah. Yeah, I
didn't paper towels too. I would. Yeah, it's like a bathroom attendant
essentially. I did. Yeah,I got tipped. I got tips too,
(04:21):
sweet, just a tip. Yeah. One of the one of them
was don't eat yellow snow, whichI thought was kind of weird in Florida.
Yeah. Oh, then definitely don'teat the yellow Stone in Florida because
there's a few things wrong there.So yeah, yeah hmm. Actually,
(04:45):
yeah, so that was my weekThat was my weekend. Yeah. No,
uh, River City Wresselicon. Theyjust run a quality a quality business
man. It was at the Marriottin I forgot the name of the convention
center, but it was in theMarriott in Saint Augustine, and it really,
(05:12):
you know, just kind of upgradedthe whole thing. Not that it
needed to be upgraded, because lastyear's in Jacksonville was good too, but
this one, I don't know.I think like when people are surrounded in
a certain environment, it's just betterbehaved. You know, nobody was like
wrecking the place last year, butthere was just a different vibe this year
(05:39):
and Nick who runs the wrestle con. Yeah, man, it's just a
quality individual and it's a quality operation. And yeah it was. It was
good. It was just a goodweekend of for wrestling period. Nice.
(05:59):
Yeah, yes, positive vibes.Yeah. Actually, so that was my
weekend, Frank, what about yours? Actually I went to the Belmont Race?
How was that? Aside from amazing? Really experience? It was experience.
My only complaining. I probably shouldhave expected this, but as we
(06:23):
walked through the gates, no waitingto get the gates, but there's probably
two hundred people protesting right as youwalked in, and they were aggressive protesters
that they were in your face,telling you about yourself and why are you
going in there? The watchports youcould beat hold on yards. They were
protesting the horses being horses racing.Yeah, yeah, Okay, did you
(06:47):
put any money on the horse thatwon? I did not. I did
not. You So you went onSaturday, the day of the Belmont?
Yes, because it was it wouldturn into it. It was like a
four days extravagance at Saratoga this year. So it was the money that brought
into Artoga. I mean that's ano brainer. I mean they they're back
(07:09):
next year too. Yes, Ilook before going back. Yeah, I
know, I know. The horsethat won it went off at seventeen to
one. So that's a hell ofa it's a hell of a payday for
the people that picked it. Yeah, that's a long shot. So,
I mean you made up pretty well. And one of the co owners is
Jason Worth. The filled up Aphillies, Yep, it was. It was
good, nice good stuff. Yeahftyfive thousand people had there. Give me
(07:34):
a cake, right, good,that's sout yourself. Weekend was good.
I actually worked last week and IDJed a the five one eight Futures.
You won that game, so weweren't. You weren't at Berneys, were
me? Yeah? No, Idid not spend the weeknd at Bernie's.
(07:57):
I was, Yeah, but djfor the first the inaugural five Win a
Future Softball Event home run derby ninegame. Top talent from all over the
Capitol region got to play showcase theirabilities and stuff. And while I was
DJing, I was pleasantly surprised bya friend of the show. Didn't know
(08:20):
he was in town. Matt Hallickjust showed up. Oh I thought you
were gonna say purple shirt guy.Yeah, Purple shirt guy came to harass
me, was awesome. It wasMatt Halleck that came to harass me instead,
so I had he didn't let meknow. I had no idea.
It was in town and I justturned around and he was like right there.
(08:41):
I was like, holy shit.And he hung out for the home
run derby in the most of thesoftball game. So it's pretty nice.
Nice. I'm still waiting to getpaid for that, though some you know,
a little antsy there, but that'sthat's not so nice. But that's
you know, we'll get that takencare of. Okah or another. All
(09:05):
right, all right, Well,now that we've covered our weekends, show's
over. Yeah, good night,Yeah, and it's rap. Have either
you watched the first part or soof the w CW documentary Who Killed WSW?
I I thought we established that previouslypreviously movement recording. Yes, we
(09:33):
weren't recording. I thought we wererecording. We know we started nine minutes
and twenty seconds ago. Oh okay, I feel like it was just it
was it was I have watched thefirst episode, is the second one.
I think it was supposed to comeout Tuesday, which came out on YouTube.
(09:56):
I haven't seen it yet, Okay, I keep on. Yeah,
I saw clips of like on theon the socials, of like Brett and
Goldberg and you know, stuff likethat, and I get you get hurt
of the ring. But she's giveit up. Brother, Well he got
(10:16):
he got paid pretty well when hewas there. I mean, I get
it, his career is short ofconcussion. But Jesus, that's twenty five
years ago. Well but if he'sasked about it, then the guy is
just you know, yeah, Idon't know. I mean, I'm going
to reserve the right not to commentuntil I see it. And uh,
(10:39):
Frank, you can, you know, say what you want, but you're
no longer aliated. It's the show. We can't we can't be Yeah.
Yeah, wait, did Frank justget fired? And so I think it's
(11:01):
just fire fight? Mm hmm that'sright. But don't worry, we'll rehire
you for next week. Yeah.Any takeaways, where did you take away
that you either didn't know or it'sworked a memory for the first week?
The first episode just I mean,it was mostly uh. I felt like
(11:26):
the first episode really kind of revolvedaround Nash Hall and Hogan for the most
part. Yeah, well, Imean, Bischoff, I expected to be
through the whole thing, but Ididn't realize, at least for the first
episode, how much time would bespent on just the inception of Nash Hall
(11:56):
and Hogan. But I mean theywere at the end of the day,
they were the nWo and it itdid. I don't know. I found
the backstory and stuff pretty interesting,and the way that the way that they
(12:16):
laid it out and the way thatthings came to be. I've so pardon
my somewhat confusion, because I've watcheda good amount of Dark Side of the
Ring stuff recently because you get onthere and then you find other So like,
(12:37):
I'm not exactly sure everything that Iwatched on that first episode, and
I don't I rarely watch anything allthe way through one time because I generally
fall asleep, so kind of likeThe Iron Claw usually takes me two or
three viewings to get all the waythrough something. So yeah, but I
(13:03):
don't know what were what what wereyour takeaways besides any of what I took
away, Like, I did youthink that it had a ton of Hogan
mass or what they did? Butthey're also a critical part part of the
(13:24):
story. But the thing that II never thought about it obviously I'm not
in the wrestling business. Was allthe TV business and how interpol or how
how Time warned AOL did not likeprofessional wrestling, so they did everything they
possibly could. They really didn't helpthe cause they didn't probally any advertising dollars
(13:45):
behind it. And that was thatto me, was what killed w W.
It wasn't Bischof Russo. I mean, they had, you know,
their hands in the Pato speak.But I think if going forward, if
Bischof had more of a support systemhim, he would have lasted a little
longer than he did. Well,I mean, you got three episodes left,
(14:09):
right, But I think at thatpoint they're going to tell you how
Bischof got came out of power,Russo comes in, Bischoff comes out,
comes back, and then just ifthe wheels just fall off the old wagon,
Well, why are you trying topredict what's to come next? One?
You just watch it and enjoy it. Well, but coming down to
what happens, it's not right now, and I mean it's not necessarily predictions.
(14:35):
We know how it ended, yeah, but I mean why not like
the prediction would be who killed WCW. And that's so that's opinionated as to
who, what, what was whatactually caused the downfall? Do you have
an already in an opinion like like, do you have a belief of what
(15:00):
killed WCW? Yeah, okay,what do you think it is? What
do you think it was a lackof support that time where aol game.
Oh so that's the argument you're making, Okay, Yeah, because the things
you read, it's always the threethe two people that would come to mind
or three people with Hogan, Bischoff, and Russo. I haven't gotten that
(15:22):
far to see whether the story theypainted a pretty negative picture of Hogan and
his stroke within the company and hisstroke with Eric and and the way I
mean even to the point of whereand you never know because there's editing and
(15:46):
whatnot that goes into all of thisstuff. But like even with Hall and
Nash, it did not seem necessarilylike a totally united front when it came
to Hogan, Hall and Nash.You know, it seemed like they like
Haul and Nash kind of you know, might have felt like Hogan had a
(16:07):
little too much say when it cameto his own and you know, that's
as old as wrestling. That clicheof like the boys can't have the book,
you know, like the boys can'thave control over the like, and
it truly is having been on youknow, this side of the curtain as
(16:30):
long as I have now like there'sthere's truth to it, like you can't
be you have to be saved fromyourself because pro wrestling is what it is.
It's it's a It just it lendsitself the way that it's operation goes.
(16:52):
It lends itself to a political likefield of land. And you just
cannot have any of the active performersbe in a position where they can book
or affect the booking, because ifthey are in that position, they can't
(17:21):
help themselves, you know. Andyou're at the end of the day,
we're all human and we're all goingto no matter how altruistic we try to
be, at some point, ifyou can have some bearing on whether you
win or lose, you're gonna paintyourself to win more than you lose.
(17:47):
So it just it is, youknow. At the same time, though,
I guess as to where like I'vegotten in the whole scheme of things
at this point is like I thinkfor the first time in my career.
If I'm being totally forthcoming, whichon this podcast, I think I've done
(18:11):
a pretty good job of being youknow, like I try to be as
honest as I can, even whenit may not paint the greatest picture of
me. But I, like manyother wrestlers, have always said, yeah,
(18:32):
I don't care about the wins andlosses, and I think for me,
like, in a lot of waysthat's a true statement, because I've
had an athletic and a competitive careerprior to this, but there are definite
points in your career where like,yeah, you know, like you want
to win more than you lose,even if they're not real. But at
(18:56):
this point in my career, Ido. I feel like, for one
of the first times in my career, like I'm finally there where like I
really don't care. I really,I'm just I've said it before, like
I'm I'm pretty satisfied with my career. I still love doing it and I'll
(19:18):
continue to do it because I can, and but I'm pretty satisfied. I
don't I don't care, you know, if I'm not actually doing the winning
and the losing anyway, So true, Like, really, what the fuck
(19:38):
do I care? I feel likeyou should be satisfied with your career at
this point, considering even doing itfor what two hundred and fifty three hundred
years. Yeah, I mean,I you know, it's I was supposed
to be dead a long time ago. Yeah, yeah, you know yeah,
yeah, at this point I wouldsay I'm I'm an anomaly, like
(20:07):
I'd say, yeah, not justin wrestling, but in the world,
like in life. I mean,I'm two hundred and fifty five years old.
That's insane. Yeah, I didreally good for an ancient human.
Yeah. And if you think aboutit, especially back then two hundred and
fifty five years ago, people areonly living to like thirty five years old,
(20:30):
right, right, So I'm on, you know what like two hundred
and twenty some odd borrowed years.That's impressive. Yeah, very What the
math that I just did in myhead? Well, I mean I didn't
check that out. What's impressed?Well no, but I mean I'm impressed
(20:52):
with the fact that I even gotsomewhere close. Well, and you were,
I mean, if you're two hundredand fifty five and people were only
living at thirty five, yeah,two hundred and twenty five years. Yeah,
twenty five years on borrowed time.Well well done, sir, well
I got right right. Look atthat. That's not bad for an English
major. Nah. If you knewmy SAT score sued, you'd know that's
(21:18):
really impressive. Yeah, yeah,so that is anyway. Anyway, let's
get off of the SATs. Yeah, you guys got a game to play.
We had a game tonight. Yeah, I think so were plans right
afters No, go fish, gofish. I see what you did there?
(21:44):
Yeah all right, so, uhwhere to now? Frank seven.
Another another thing Appeal don't real realizedwas w c W was dead in the
war. If Eric Bescher than totake it over, they were in the
last leg. That's nothing that Ical on with that minute episode one go
(22:04):
ahead. They were done. Thatwas literally their last stand. And Bishop
pull a rev out of his headsand although this should be our business model,
let's take it off the road.We'll go to Disney, we'll do
the show down there. We'll savesome money, you know, yeah TV
down there. He really from abusiness model standpoint, he really puts on
(22:26):
that. Well. I think whatit required, I think what what the
situation they were in required was anon wrestling mind to be introduced to the
equation, and Eric was that hewas, you know, not not new
(22:47):
to wrestling, but he was freshenough to it that he only had that
limited AWA experience and whatnot coming in, so he was definitely still more of
a TV so he brought concepts thatwere outside of the traditional you know,
(23:10):
regional wrestling promotion ideas and ways.You know, some of those were just
ways to save money and ways tolike maximize profit and benefit and you know,
recording it such and such soundstage andyou know, like you said,
doing the Disney thing and knowing thatHogan was the guy he needed to get
(23:37):
that get the ball rolling in thatdirection, you know. So yeah,
I thought it was really interesting,man, I really really enjoyed it,
looking forward to want to see episodetwo. All right, switching gears a
little bit. Anybody even watched AA W A little bit. I saw
(24:03):
Kyle and Osprey. Did we talkabout that on the last show a little
bit? We did? Yes?Yeah, Okay, so we don't need
to rehash why what what? Uh? What do you think of the work
that Swerve was doing. I justsaw something recently as recently as today,
I believe Instagram and it was somethingwith Swerve, who I know is the
(24:30):
you know, their world champion atthis point, and Osprey and uh,
I I liked the clip that Isaw one. I kind of enjoy the
the gimmick that Swerve. I've notseen all of it, but like the
(24:53):
big fur coat and the the PrinceNana Staf is growing on me. You
know, I've always liked not personallyanyway, so happy to see him successful
or doing some stuff, but Ido kind of, you know, I
don't know, there's something about thedynamic, you know, him being somewhat
(25:22):
I don't mean this in a negativeway. It's gonna sound like a negative
choice of words, but like forhim to kind of be painted in that
position of like swerves lackey, butit kind of gives Swerve some credibility to
have the lackey. And then alsolike I don't know, Swerves there wearing
(25:45):
like this for cod. I don'tknow, It's just like all the pieces
of the puzzle kind of come togetherto make something feel a little bit special
about whatever this is the little clipI saw today. He whispered, or
not whispered, but he said itquietly in Osprey's ear. Something about if
(26:10):
we weren't friends, I'd make youdisappear or something along those lines. And
to me, it had like mafiavibes to it, and I just thought,
whether you like it or you don'tlike it, I just thought it
was an interesting creative choice. AndI like that, like win, lose
(26:37):
your draw, I respect the boldchoice of the performer because that's the kind
of stuff that's, you know,that moves the needle in my opinion,
because people are gonna have a strongopinion on it. They're gonna love it,
they're gonna hate it, you know, but either way, that sh
(27:00):
it ain't down the middle. AndI think that that's a you know,
I think that's a I respect that, you know, I respect swerves,
willingness to put himself out there likethat, make a make a bold choice,
and I think without go ahead stupid, No, it might Oh okay,
(27:26):
yeah, yeah, don't don't bestupid. He already got fired well
and by all means be stupid.I mean, what the fuck you got
the loser? Yeah? Yeah,I think too. I'll say this,
I think with the Osprey being kindof the he's the best bout machine at
(27:52):
this point, right, Like,I mean that that's I think what they
were what Kenny was called by Meltzeror whatever. But I think now,
like I think people see that asOsprey. So everything Osprey does in the
ring is going to speak for itself. And I think that Osprey can,
(28:17):
you know, can cut a promoand can talk and can be a presence
and all those things too, SoI don't think that he's one dimensional in
that way. But I think whenit comes to the dynamic between them,
I would say it's safe to saythat that Squerve will be the you know,
(28:37):
we'll be the one bringing more ofthe gimmick to the equation if that's
the direction AEW is going with thetwo of them. But anyway, I'm
just I'm here for it. I'lltune in. I'd like to see how
it goes, you know, andat the end of the day, like
that's viewership, you know, andthat's what you're supposed to be buying for.
(29:03):
So I like it. I likethe little bit that I saw.
Nice. Yeah, it's a weird. There's good nuggets happening in a w
as we speak. I saw anotherthing. It was Billy Gunn and the
acclaimed. I've been seeing a fewthings on that they've been doing. So
(29:30):
I don't know if they're getting thepush to be cool. If they are,
I know they were pushing them abit before. But the one guy
from the acclaimed he's rocking just themustache and it's such a bold, bold,
bad look, you know. ButI know that, like the mustache
(29:53):
is over these days, right,Like I'm not crazy, right, I
mean you see it everywhere, anduh, I just I just I wonder
how that's gonna age, you know, not Like I just wonder if you
know, these people that are rockingthe stash, just the stash, if
(30:19):
you know, five three, fouryears from now, so you're gonna be
like what was I thinking? Ifeel like it goes in spurts, you
know, like, yeah, thecowboys back in the day, like Wyatt
Are, they all had the freakingthe big old fat mustaches. And then
there was the porn stashes from theseventies early eighties. Uh what's that Raleigh
(30:42):
fingers? Yeah, Raleigh Fingers inthe little TWIRLI yeah, there you go.
And now it's starting to come back. I know there's because I mean
I watch a lot of Yankees baseballand they have like a no clean shaven,
right. The Yankees have always beenthat way. Yeah, it was
a time Brener thing. You're you'replaying for a professional organization. You are
(31:04):
to appear to be your Your appearanceshould be professional looking is what they've always
said. But now they've loosened ita little bit so the guys can have
mustaches. And it's really weird tosee like some of these quote unquote kids
that are like twenty two, twentythree years old rocking a mustache and then
they say their age and you're like, I have sworn he was like forty,
(31:26):
right, but wasn't maddeningly rocking themuscle matingly did have Yeah, maddingly
did have a stash. It washow does he get away with it?
I think it was a you know, kind of a loosening of the range
by George Steinbrenner, and he wasthe Yankee captain to kind of let him
go with it, and he wasstill Frank, did your large intestine just
(31:48):
fall on the floor? Yes,yes, go ahead, that's what that
was your largest Yeah, wow,you probably want to get that checked out.
Yeah, you should go. Wellhe's fired, I mean he's no
longer. This is volunteer at thispoint. Oh wait, we none of
(32:13):
us get paid. It's all volunteer. Yeah, that's all volunteer. Nice.
It's so nice of us to dothis on a volunteer basis. Thank
you, sir. Yeah, goodold. I like Joe's gammick that he
has on on the the K onehundred podcasts, rocking the sunglasses all the
time. What was that you shoulddo that? I'm not gonna steal his
(32:37):
I'm not gonna steal his ship.You need copyrighted. Still, that's kind
of bush league. I think RayCharles had that copyrighted. And Steve Wonder,
he's Steve, good friend of mine, Steve Stephan, Stephan Wonder,
(33:01):
Steve Wonder. The fuck is that? Yeah? Ah? Hey, did
you guys see broad Breaker destroyed thatnight? Is that like? That?
Is that? Like? Uh?Regotta cheese Lego, legochie cheese? The
(33:32):
fine irishman rick o'she I did?I did? I did not see it?
So what what? Uh? Igot it? He power slammed him
into a car windshield? Oh jeez, Louise, Yeah, did they he
(33:57):
was real glass? It's real glass. Well that's I was gonna say,
did they use real glass? Therewas that kind of you know, like
that could cause some trouble. Therewas enough Internet trolls out there to have
did they really of course? Well, I mean listen, you know how
fickle they can be on x formerlyknown as Twitter. And somebody better check
(34:22):
on Pump to make sure let himknow it was real glass blah blah blah.
But well, it looked like bronBreaker when he threw into the control
truck. Look, he messed itup because Ricochet fell hard, hard in
the concrete, look to the pointwhere you couldn't brace himself like you're a
splat. Then the spot where theywent to the cars have happened. I
(34:49):
gotta tell you that bron Breaker dudeis something special. Yeah, he's a
lot of fun to fucking watch.That's cool. Good. I'm glad that
you're enjoying for you for saying,what did I do? No, I'm
(35:13):
saying that that's because you're not likeyou're more of a fan, and that
that's your reaction to him. Youknow, it's hard for me to gauge
based on my reaction because I'm Ijust I you know, can't help but
(35:35):
have my opinions affected by being onthe other side of things. I get
it. Yeah, I haven't.I've enjoyed seeing the ship that he does.
I'm kind of surprised. I'm kindof surprised that they haven't like leaned
into the Steiner thing. But atthe same time, they're trying to create
his own identity, which I thinkis good as well. So, but
(36:00):
they could have. They could havegone either way with that. I actually
said it, well, I thinkthey do. They do lean into it
a little bit, like he said, but he's obviously got a different name.
Yeah, but I think it's theydon't. You don't have to like
(36:21):
wonder real hard true, and hedoes, you know, kind of a
little bit of an ode to bothScott and Rick with the singlet and stuff
that he wears and the way hepresents and obviously, you know, with
(36:43):
doing the Frankens Sinner and stuff likethat. But he did one I think
it was two weeks, not thispast winds Monday, but the Monday before
where he like ran towards the cornerand basically like jumped on the middle rope
right to the top rope, andI was like, whoa, he's an
Yeah, he's athletic. He's athleticas hell. Yeah, Yeah, I
saw that one too. I believeI would imagine it's the same one,
(37:06):
but it might be something that he, you know, like the way Angle
used to run up the ropes,Like you find certain things that are in
your wheelhouse that like you just know, like, okay, athletically, I'm
I'm capable of this, and whenyou know you can hit those ten out
of ten times, like those arethe things you go with. And he's
(37:28):
athletic enough, maybe that's maybe that'sone of those things for him that like
he knows, I'm gonna hit thisevery time, right, Yeah, yeah,
you remember remember when Scott Steiner firstdid that move? But like the
craziest thing s Freigensteiner. Oh mygod, yeah it was. It was
(37:52):
a big thing back there. Wellyeah, I mean if you look at
it, it's still kind of abig thing and it's still crazy. But
it's just that the ante has beenupped, you know, in such a
way that it's like, you know, how do you how do you do
(38:13):
something that nobody's seen at this point. It's just you know, Ricochet does
backwards two and a half, youknow, like it's you know, where
does it end? Where does itstop? Yes? I mean and back
in the day. Like back inthe day, they weren't quite as athletic
(38:37):
as the guys are now. Thatare what you mean. Hogan's leg drop
wasn't as athletic as I'm not.I'm not doing anything hero, I mean,
I'm just saying. Yeah, I'mjust saying it made him six inches
shorter. Yeah, I mean whenit comes crashing down, hurt inside.
(39:00):
Yeah, you gotta take a sand, you gotta take a stand. I
don't hurt to hide. No,No, that's not hurt, Frank,
it's it don't help to hide hurthelp was close. Yeah, I mean
those are very different things. LikeI don't ever say to somebody, hey,
(39:22):
could you hurt me out? Thatmight get taken out of context really
lit. Yeah, yeah, Idon't. I would ever, like if
I was drowning, I would Iwould never scream like hurt, hurt,
hurt me, hurt me, hurtme? Right, I mean that's true,
(39:47):
that is true, Frank. Yourlogic is very very fish Yeah foolish,
Yeah, yeah, very flawed.Right. Yeah, that's fine.
We still love you, Frank.Hey, you know who else was at
River City Wrestle con Sean Gross Austinares front of the show. Yeah,
(40:16):
I had some good, good chatswith Austin Ares as well. Nice.
Yeah right now, yeah, yeah, he did some backstage work as well,
which it was just good to Uhyeah, I mean he's another one
(40:38):
man that I think his outlook onthe industry has always been from a different
viewpoint. And he's another one that'syou know, love mor Hayen. The
guy's ballsy and he's not afraid tobe himself in lake. How do you
not have some respect for that?And I just appreciate his h his candor.
(41:06):
But yeah, that was I don'tsomething that one he has just said
made me think of aries awesome areas. I don't I don't know what it
was. But yeah, that waskind of kind of random. But that's
all right. Listen, this showwas kind of built on randomness. Mm
hmmm. So it's fine randomness Bukakis, mm hmm, randomness Boukakis. Yes,
(41:35):
Yes, what's on the dog ofhis weekend? Uh? I got
some d DP yoga. Nice.I am doing a class on Saturday,
and uh, I'm actually gonna bedoing some. I did some today,
(41:57):
I'm gonna be doing some tomorrow.But then I have I'm doing a class
on Saturday. Nice good stuff.Yeah, that's my weekend classes open to
the public. And people still signup. Go to where they gotta find
this class? No people can no, never mind, Nope, forget that,
(42:22):
No they can't. It's pretty nice. So what are the what do
you guys got planned for father orwhat is planned for you for Father's Day?
You're talking to me or Frank eithertalking to me? Are you talking
to me? I'll start with thisshow. I don't really care. Well,
uh, I don't. I don'treally have anything planned. Willow is
(42:51):
her dad's but we will be probablypicking her up over the weekend. Not
sure, we haven't worked out thedetails. And then my other kids,
uh uh, you know they don'tfair enough New York. They're in They're
(43:20):
in New York here in Florida.So there's that. I've got a wibblew
question. Actually, is Willow stillplaying the violin? No, she's doing
jiu jitsu. How did you getout of that? She's doing jiu jitsu?
Yeah, we taught her how tochoke people because the violin thing is
creeping its way to my house?Which one which kid? Uh via,
(43:45):
and we we just had this conversationwhen you're up here. I'm like,
man, how the hell is it? I'm not talking her out of it.
It's got to be more than thedays of Wow, why are you
trying to talk around of it?Yeah, but I mean, if she's
in, if she likes it,Like I the only reason we took Willow
(44:07):
out of it was because she wasn'tShe wasn't all in. You know,
you never discouraged him from the performingarts, Frank. Yeah, she wasn't
all in. She and yeah,so it's just been a matter of like
(44:27):
trying to find what her thing is. And you know, so jiu jitsu
was something she wanted to give ashot too, and so she's still in
the midst of figuring that out.Now she enjoys it, so yeah.
I mean, if they're not intoit, that's one thing. But as
a father of a performing arts child, don't discourage it. Yeah, it'll
(44:50):
get better. Listen, when you'restarting out, you weren't good at whatever
it is that you do when youfirst started it too, Frank, You're
not You're not good at anything.Frank. Hmmmm. Not only do you
get professional restaurant on here, youget life lessons. That's right. You
(45:12):
don't know what you're gonna get takefrom us. You came to Grips a
long time ago with the fact that, like I guess, I'm just not
good at anything. Breathing. You'renot good at breathing. That's really not
that hard. It's also breathing orreading. Yeah, also involuntary action.
(45:36):
You just do it. Yeah,it's a good thing. You don't have
to read to live, are you, because you'd be in trouble. All
right? You got going with menbecause Bobby is not always doing Let tomorrow,
I just told you what I'm doing. I'm doing DDP told you this.
(45:58):
DJ does not do JA this week. But I am leaving tomorrow afternoon
to go to Turning Stone to seeTom Segura, which I'm looking forward to,
and then home on Saturday, andthen the kids have something planned for
mothers for Father's Day. Maybe mothermother's Father's different, so that's kind of
(46:20):
it. But looking forward to seeingSegura tomorrow night, which you know,
top three stand up comics of thatfor me? Who are the other two?
Yeah, you can't leave at themoment. Like my three favorites right
now, Bill Burr, Dave Chappelleand Tom Sagura m h. Frank,
(46:45):
Yes, who cares present? Reallytaking attendance to Frank your favorite comedians,
Sean grows Rose, Alex Irwin,Mike Blazon nice, Wow, what blazing
(47:10):
hot Mike? Is he alive?I don't think so. He may also
be in prison. So hm.He's always looked like he was made of
candle wax. Pretty sure he was. Yeah, I can tell you he
was full of ship, had alot of stories that must have stoked a
(47:37):
lot, a lot of a lotof stories came out of that guy's mouth.
Told me once that he was thathe did the Wu Tang clan had
asked him to be in the group. And well, I know I didn't
believe I told you that. Ididn't say. I can confirm that.
Oh I heard that too. AlexIrwin told me that was the stage name.
(47:59):
Oh my blazeper pipe pipe he had, He had a one he was
His name was potty Piper, pottytpoudy, potty Piper. Now when now,
when Alex, Mike and Sean rolledtogether, did they get out of
(48:22):
a little volkswagon, did there likea beetle? H got that? I
didn't. I didn't anyway, allright, take you home? Is that
where we're going. Yeah, Ithink it's time to go home. All
right, let's go Bobby Fish Appareldot Com for all your Bobby Fish needs.
(48:46):
Mm hmmm. M l W ml W needs appearance Tampa early July.
It's not that far away. Atsome point in the first two weeks
anywhere. I think. No,I think it's the twelfth. I think
(49:07):
it's the twelfth. Look it upon a calendar. Is the twelfth a
Saturday or a Thursday? A Thursday? That was great Saint Saint Saint Pete
on July twelfth, So July twelfthis a Friday, Okay, I think
(49:30):
that that might be it. Ithink Saturday though, that's the next time
I posted it on my Twitter.I'm sure. Hold on, look this
is great, op, see youlater. Yeah, I'll be back.
Can you still hear me? Yeah? Weekend? All right, Yeah it
(49:51):
is. It's July twelfth, Friday, July twelfth. There you go,
three stages of the destructure in Tampa. Yeah, and I know that Menora's
Suzuki is gonna wrestle Akira. Thereis a living legend on this card.
Mister Bill Alfonso'll be managing, He'llbe managing Matt Justice that day. So
(50:20):
there'll be two living legends, becausewe've already established that Bobby's two hundred and
fifty five years old. I thoughtyou were I thought you were going to
say Larry's Obisco was on the showtoo, one of the true legends.
Yes, yes, also, butyeah, Menora's Uzuki versus Akira on that
(50:40):
show. Nice twelve. Oh andI'll be wrestling Kenta on that show.
Oh that's right. Yeah, that'llbe first round of the Opera Cup and
uh man i U I am lookingforward to getting in the ring with Kenta
(51:06):
for sure. I cannot imagine therewill be a lot of daylight in that
match. No, no, theywill be. There'll be. Yeah,
it's gonna be. It's gonna begood. A slabber knocker. Dare we
say, mm hmm? Good ship? Yeah, good ship? Before we
wrap. Anybody watching Clash at theCastle this week? I think I might
(51:30):
have to Will that be Sunday,Saturday? Saturday afternoon? As a matter
of fact, it's like at twoo'clock start, Yeah, because they're overseas.
It's a Cody right, what's up? A j and Cody right?
It should be. I would assumethat's gonna be a good one. A
(51:51):
J. Francis, he was atRiver City Wrussell con too different. I
think it's a different AJ though I'mnot. I could be wrong. That's
happened before. Yeah, A J. Dewey A J. Dewey, Miami
Dolphins. No, we're getting furtherfrom where we wanted. Okay, going
(52:16):
in the wrong direction. Mm hmoh, and we got Drew versus what's
his nuts there? It's the champDamian Priest got it took a minute to
get there. It should be agood show. I have to watch it.
Drew, Drew Huberman, Drew Carry. I couldn't think of a Drew,
(52:43):
So I thought of Andrew Huberman becauseI was trying to come up with
a Drew. But I couldn't.How could I not? How could I
not go with Drew Carrot? Idon't know. I don't know either.
I don't know. Okay, allright, it's time for Frank to go
(53:04):
pick up his large and tests andwell, yeah, plus he's got that,
he's got his late night gig atthe Blue Oyster. He's got to
get to too at the Blue Cocky. At the Blue Cocky, what I
feel like the Blue Oyster. Abetter name for it would have been the
(53:27):
Blue Cocky. H More descriptive,sure, a lot more descriptive, Yes,
yes, yes correct. Bobbyfish Appareldot com, Bobby Fish Booking seven
at gmail dot com. And that'sa wrap on the show. Frank,
(53:49):
you got anything to add, that'sfantastic. Thank you for being so enthusiastic,
Nor do I so. On thatnote, say good night, bout
night, Bobby
The most educated professional professor him theshow. And I mean, folks,
where's the lines for the undisc podcastwith Bobby Fish? And we're back captivating
episode of the podcasts on the Creatingcontrolled network. That's your favorite DJ and
(00:28):
that's below me MLW star Bobby JoeFish. I think I like you said
cap debating, but it sounded likeyou said cap. Yeah. This gave
him an excuse to me on thefucking show. Great. Yeah, so
(00:51):
how would your wikend? My weekendwas good. I was, what's that
ahead? No, but you goahead. I was going to ask you
what you did. I thought youwere gonna. I thought you were going
to remind me what I did forthe weekend because I don't remember. Oh
(01:12):
boy, it was River City WrestleCon. Oh, river City Wrestle Con.
So the first day my table wasnext to Big Veto. Actually,
(01:32):
the second day my table was nextto Big Veto as well, but it
wasn't supposed to be the second day, but yeah, and it was.
So we have a friend in common. Duke loves wrestling. Yeah, yeah,
(01:55):
yeah, So that was cool andit was good to shoot the ship
a little bit with Big Video.And then the second day I was also
my table was close to uh Debon, so that was good. I got
to uh chop it up a littlebit with his his daughters. They were
(02:16):
there too. He's got little littledaughters at work. Uh yeah, three,
I think he's got three, mighthave four, did you guys work?
I think they are yeah, yeahyeah, and then he's got two
two little ones. And then uhso I wrestled Sunday in a triple threat
(02:46):
match. It was John Davis,Me and uh bo Jack bo Jack.
This was the first time I wasuh in a the first time I met
him. First time I obviously wrestledhim or whatever. But yeah, it
was good. Every everything went good. I helped uh kind of uh run
(03:13):
the locker room, helped out throughthe weekend, so that was that was
cool. Got to, you know, do some some different things other than
just perform. So it was fun. Yeah, it was fun. You
say, hand the locker rooms outthere myself, what does that mean?
(03:38):
To do the laundry you know,wa gift Yeah, water catering. Yeah,
well I didn't cook, but likethey had kind bars and stuff and
I would fill the bowls when theywere Yeah, I replaced the toilet paper
(04:01):
in the lock the Yeah. Yeah, sounds like a pretty prestigious role.
I'm glad that you were able tohelp out. Yeah. Yeah, I
didn't paper towels too. I would. Yeah, it's like a bathroom attendant
essentially. I did. Yeah,I got tipped. I got tips too,
(04:21):
sweet, just a tip. Yeah. One of the one of them
was don't eat yellow snow, whichI thought was kind of weird in Florida.
Yeah. Oh, then definitely don'teat the yellow Stone in Florida because
there's a few things wrong there.So yeah, yeah hmm. Actually,
(04:45):
yeah, so that was my weekThat was my weekend. Yeah. No,
uh, River City Wresselicon. Theyjust run a quality a quality business
man. It was at the Marriottin I forgot the name of the convention
center, but it was in theMarriott in Saint Augustine, and it really,
(05:12):
you know, just kind of upgradedthe whole thing. Not that it
needed to be upgraded, because lastyear's in Jacksonville was good too, but
this one, I don't know.I think like when people are surrounded in
a certain environment, it's just betterbehaved. You know, nobody was like
wrecking the place last year, butthere was just a different vibe this year
(05:39):
and Nick who runs the wrestle con. Yeah, man, it's just a
quality individual and it's a quality operation. And yeah it was. It was
good. It was just a goodweekend of for wrestling period. Nice.
(05:59):
Yeah, yes, positive vibes.Yeah. Actually, so that was my
weekend, Frank, what about yours? Actually I went to the Belmont Race?
How was that? Aside from amazing? Really experience? It was experience.
My only complaining. I probably shouldhave expected this, but as we
(06:23):
walked through the gates, no waitingto get the gates, but there's probably
two hundred people protesting right as youwalked in, and they were aggressive protesters
that they were in your face,telling you about yourself and why are you
going in there? The watchports youcould beat hold on yards. They were
protesting the horses being horses racing.Yeah, yeah, Okay, did you
(06:47):
put any money on the horse thatwon? I did not. I did
not. You So you went onSaturday, the day of the Belmont?
Yes, because it was it wouldturn into it. It was like a
four days extravagance at Saratoga this year. So it was the money that brought
into Artoga. I mean that's ano brainer. I mean they they're back
(07:09):
next year too. Yes, Ilook before going back. Yeah, I
know, I know. The horsethat won it went off at seventeen to
one. So that's a hell ofa it's a hell of a payday for
the people that picked it. Yeah, that's a long shot. So,
I mean you made up pretty well. And one of the co owners is
Jason Worth. The filled up Aphillies, Yep, it was. It was
good, nice good stuff. Yeahftyfive thousand people had there. Give me
(07:34):
a cake, right, good,that's sout yourself. Weekend was good.
I actually worked last week and IDJed a the five one eight Futures.
You won that game, so weweren't. You weren't at Berneys, were
me? Yeah? No, Idid not spend the weeknd at Bernie's.
(07:57):
I was, Yeah, but djfor the first the inaugural five Win a
Future Softball Event home run derby ninegame. Top talent from all over the
Capitol region got to play showcase theirabilities and stuff. And while I was
DJing, I was pleasantly surprised bya friend of the show. Didn't know
(08:20):
he was in town. Matt Hallickjust showed up. Oh I thought you
were gonna say purple shirt guy.Yeah, Purple shirt guy came to harass
me, was awesome. It wasMatt Halleck that came to harass me instead,
so I had he didn't let meknow. I had no idea.
It was in town and I justturned around and he was like right there.
(08:41):
I was like, holy shit.And he hung out for the home
run derby in the most of thesoftball game. So it's pretty nice.
Nice. I'm still waiting to getpaid for that, though some you know,
a little antsy there, but that'sthat's not so nice. But that's
you know, we'll get that takencare of. Okah or another. All
(09:05):
right, all right, Well,now that we've covered our weekends, show's
over. Yeah, good night,Yeah, and it's rap. Have either
you watched the first part or soof the w CW documentary Who Killed WSW?
I I thought we established that previouslypreviously movement recording. Yes, we
(09:33):
weren't recording. I thought we wererecording. We know we started nine minutes
and twenty seconds ago. Oh okay, I feel like it was just it
was it was I have watched thefirst episode, is the second one.
I think it was supposed to comeout Tuesday, which came out on YouTube.
(09:56):
I haven't seen it yet, Okay, I keep on. Yeah,
I saw clips of like on theon the socials, of like Brett and
Goldberg and you know, stuff likethat, and I get you get hurt
of the ring. But she's giveit up. Brother, Well he got
(10:16):
he got paid pretty well when hewas there. I mean, I get
it, his career is short ofconcussion. But Jesus, that's twenty five
years ago. Well but if he'sasked about it, then the guy is
just you know, yeah, Idon't know. I mean, I'm going
to reserve the right not to commentuntil I see it. And uh,
(10:39):
Frank, you can, you know, say what you want, but you're
no longer aliated. It's the show. We can't we can't be Yeah.
Yeah, wait, did Frank justget fired? And so I think it's
(11:01):
just fire fight? Mm hmm that'sright. But don't worry, we'll rehire
you for next week. Yeah.Any takeaways, where did you take away
that you either didn't know or it'sworked a memory for the first week?
The first episode just I mean,it was mostly uh. I felt like
(11:26):
the first episode really kind of revolvedaround Nash Hall and Hogan for the most
part. Yeah, well, Imean, Bischoff, I expected to be
through the whole thing, but Ididn't realize, at least for the first
episode, how much time would bespent on just the inception of Nash Hall
(11:56):
and Hogan. But I mean theywere at the end of the day,
they were the nWo and it itdid. I don't know. I found
the backstory and stuff pretty interesting,and the way that the way that they
(12:16):
laid it out and the way thatthings came to be. I've so pardon
my somewhat confusion, because I've watcheda good amount of Dark Side of the
Ring stuff recently because you get onthere and then you find other So like,
(12:37):
I'm not exactly sure everything that Iwatched on that first episode, and
I don't I rarely watch anything allthe way through one time because I generally
fall asleep, so kind of likeThe Iron Claw usually takes me two or
three viewings to get all the waythrough something. So yeah, but I
(13:03):
don't know what were what what wereyour takeaways besides any of what I took
away, Like, I did youthink that it had a ton of Hogan
mass or what they did? Butthey're also a critical part part of the
(13:24):
story. But the thing that II never thought about it obviously I'm not
in the wrestling business. Was allthe TV business and how interpol or how
how Time warned AOL did not likeprofessional wrestling, so they did everything they
possibly could. They really didn't helpthe cause they didn't probally any advertising dollars
(13:45):
behind it. And that was thatto me, was what killed w W.
It wasn't Bischof Russo. I mean, they had, you know,
their hands in the Pato speak.But I think if going forward, if
Bischof had more of a support systemhim, he would have lasted a little
longer than he did. Well,I mean, you got three episodes left,
(14:09):
right, But I think at thatpoint they're going to tell you how
Bischof got came out of power,Russo comes in, Bischoff comes out,
comes back, and then just ifthe wheels just fall off the old wagon,
Well, why are you trying topredict what's to come next? One?
You just watch it and enjoy it. Well, but coming down to
what happens, it's not right now, and I mean it's not necessarily predictions.
(14:35):
We know how it ended, yeah, but I mean why not like
the prediction would be who killed WCW. And that's so that's opinionated as to
who, what, what was whatactually caused the downfall? Do you have
an already in an opinion like like, do you have a belief of what
(15:00):
killed WCW? Yeah, okay,what do you think it is? What
do you think it was a lackof support that time where aol game.
Oh so that's the argument you're making, Okay, Yeah, because the things
you read, it's always the threethe two people that would come to mind
or three people with Hogan, Bischoff, and Russo. I haven't gotten that
(15:22):
far to see whether the story theypainted a pretty negative picture of Hogan and
his stroke within the company and hisstroke with Eric and and the way I
mean even to the point of whereand you never know because there's editing and
(15:46):
whatnot that goes into all of thisstuff. But like even with Hall and
Nash, it did not seem necessarilylike a totally united front when it came
to Hogan, Hall and Nash.You know, it seemed like they like
Haul and Nash kind of you know, might have felt like Hogan had a
(16:07):
little too much say when it cameto his own and you know, that's
as old as wrestling. That clicheof like the boys can't have the book,
you know, like the boys can'thave control over the like, and
it truly is having been on youknow, this side of the curtain as
(16:30):
long as I have now like there'sthere's truth to it, like you can't
be you have to be saved fromyourself because pro wrestling is what it is.
It's it's a It just it lendsitself the way that it's operation goes.
(16:52):
It lends itself to a political likefield of land. And you just
cannot have any of the active performersbe in a position where they can book
or affect the booking, because ifthey are in that position, they can't
(17:21):
help themselves, you know. Andyou're at the end of the day,
we're all human and we're all goingto no matter how altruistic we try to
be, at some point, ifyou can have some bearing on whether you
win or lose, you're gonna paintyourself to win more than you lose.
(17:47):
So it just it is, youknow. At the same time, though,
I guess as to where like I'vegotten in the whole scheme of things
at this point is like I thinkfor the first time in my career.
If I'm being totally forthcoming, whichon this podcast, I think I've done
(18:11):
a pretty good job of being youknow, like I try to be as
honest as I can, even whenit may not paint the greatest picture of
me. But I, like manyother wrestlers, have always said, yeah,
(18:32):
I don't care about the wins andlosses, and I think for me,
like, in a lot of waysthat's a true statement, because I've
had an athletic and a competitive careerprior to this, but there are definite
points in your career where like,yeah, you know, like you want
to win more than you lose,even if they're not real. But at
(18:56):
this point in my career, Ido. I feel like, for one
of the first times in my career, like I'm finally there where like I
really don't care. I really,I'm just I've said it before, like
I'm I'm pretty satisfied with my career. I still love doing it and I'll
(19:18):
continue to do it because I can, and but I'm pretty satisfied. I
don't I don't care, you know, if I'm not actually doing the winning
and the losing anyway, So true, Like, really, what the fuck
(19:38):
do I care? I feel likeyou should be satisfied with your career at
this point, considering even doing itfor what two hundred and fifty three hundred
years. Yeah, I mean,I you know, it's I was supposed
to be dead a long time ago. Yeah, yeah, you know yeah,
yeah, at this point I wouldsay I'm I'm an anomaly, like
(20:07):
I'd say, yeah, not justin wrestling, but in the world,
like in life. I mean,I'm two hundred and fifty five years old.
That's insane. Yeah, I didreally good for an ancient human.
Yeah. And if you think aboutit, especially back then two hundred and
fifty five years ago, people areonly living to like thirty five years old,
(20:30):
right, right, So I'm on, you know what like two hundred
and twenty some odd borrowed years.That's impressive. Yeah, very What the
math that I just did in myhead? Well, I mean I didn't
check that out. What's impressed?Well no, but I mean I'm impressed
(20:52):
with the fact that I even gotsomewhere close. Well, and you were,
I mean, if you're two hundredand fifty five and people were only
living at thirty five, yeah,two hundred and twenty five years. Yeah,
twenty five years on borrowed time.Well well done, sir, well
I got right right. Look atthat. That's not bad for an English
major. Nah. If you knewmy SAT score sued, you'd know that's
(21:18):
really impressive. Yeah, yeah,so that is anyway. Anyway, let's
get off of the SATs. Yeah, you guys got a game to play.
We had a game tonight. Yeah, I think so were plans right
afters No, go fish, gofish. I see what you did there?
(21:44):
Yeah all right, so, uhwhere to now? Frank seven.
Another another thing Appeal don't real realizedwas w c W was dead in the
war. If Eric Bescher than totake it over, they were in the
last leg. That's nothing that Ical on with that minute episode one go
(22:04):
ahead. They were done. Thatwas literally their last stand. And Bishop
pull a rev out of his headsand although this should be our business model,
let's take it off the road.We'll go to Disney, we'll do
the show down there. We'll savesome money, you know, yeah TV
down there. He really from abusiness model standpoint, he really puts on
(22:26):
that. Well. I think whatit required, I think what what the
situation they were in required was anon wrestling mind to be introduced to the
equation, and Eric was that hewas, you know, not not new
(22:47):
to wrestling, but he was freshenough to it that he only had that
limited AWA experience and whatnot coming in, so he was definitely still more of
a TV so he brought concepts thatwere outside of the traditional you know,
(23:10):
regional wrestling promotion ideas and ways.You know, some of those were just
ways to save money and ways tolike maximize profit and benefit and you know,
recording it such and such soundstage andyou know, like you said,
doing the Disney thing and knowing thatHogan was the guy he needed to get
(23:37):
that get the ball rolling in thatdirection, you know. So yeah,
I thought it was really interesting,man, I really really enjoyed it,
looking forward to want to see episodetwo. All right, switching gears a
little bit. Anybody even watched AA W A little bit. I saw
(24:03):
Kyle and Osprey. Did we talkabout that on the last show a little
bit? We did? Yes?Yeah, Okay, so we don't need
to rehash why what what? Uh? What do you think of the work
that Swerve was doing. I justsaw something recently as recently as today,
I believe Instagram and it was somethingwith Swerve, who I know is the
(24:30):
you know, their world champion atthis point, and Osprey and uh,
I I liked the clip that Isaw one. I kind of enjoy the
the gimmick that Swerve. I've notseen all of it, but like the
(24:53):
big fur coat and the the PrinceNana Staf is growing on me. You
know, I've always liked not personallyanyway, so happy to see him successful
or doing some stuff, but Ido kind of, you know, I
don't know, there's something about thedynamic, you know, him being somewhat
(25:22):
I don't mean this in a negativeway. It's gonna sound like a negative
choice of words, but like forhim to kind of be painted in that
position of like swerves lackey, butit kind of gives Swerve some credibility to
have the lackey. And then alsolike I don't know, Swerves there wearing
(25:45):
like this for cod. I don'tknow, It's just like all the pieces
of the puzzle kind of come togetherto make something feel a little bit special
about whatever this is the little clipI saw today. He whispered, or
not whispered, but he said itquietly in Osprey's ear. Something about if
(26:10):
we weren't friends, I'd make youdisappear or something along those lines. And
to me, it had like mafiavibes to it, and I just thought,
whether you like it or you don'tlike it, I just thought it
was an interesting creative choice. AndI like that, like win, lose
(26:37):
your draw, I respect the boldchoice of the performer because that's the kind
of stuff that's, you know,that moves the needle in my opinion,
because people are gonna have a strongopinion on it. They're gonna love it,
they're gonna hate it, you know, but either way, that sh
(27:00):
it ain't down the middle. AndI think that that's a you know,
I think that's a I respect that, you know, I respect swerves,
willingness to put himself out there likethat, make a make a bold choice,
and I think without go ahead stupid, No, it might Oh okay,
(27:26):
yeah, yeah, don't don't bestupid. He already got fired well
and by all means be stupid.I mean, what the fuck you got
the loser? Yeah? Yeah,I think too. I'll say this,
I think with the Osprey being kindof the he's the best bout machine at
(27:52):
this point, right, Like,I mean that that's I think what they
were what Kenny was called by Meltzeror whatever. But I think now,
like I think people see that asOsprey. So everything Osprey does in the
ring is going to speak for itself. And I think that Osprey can,
(28:17):
you know, can cut a promoand can talk and can be a presence
and all those things too, SoI don't think that he's one dimensional in
that way. But I think whenit comes to the dynamic between them,
I would say it's safe to saythat that Squerve will be the you know,
(28:37):
we'll be the one bringing more ofthe gimmick to the equation if that's
the direction AEW is going with thetwo of them. But anyway, I'm
just I'm here for it. I'lltune in. I'd like to see how
it goes, you know, andat the end of the day, like
that's viewership, you know, andthat's what you're supposed to be buying for.
(29:03):
So I like it. I likethe little bit that I saw.
Nice. Yeah, it's a weird. There's good nuggets happening in a w
as we speak. I saw anotherthing. It was Billy Gunn and the
acclaimed. I've been seeing a fewthings on that they've been doing. So
(29:30):
I don't know if they're getting thepush to be cool. If they are,
I know they were pushing them abit before. But the one guy
from the acclaimed he's rocking just themustache and it's such a bold, bold,
bad look, you know. ButI know that, like the mustache
(29:53):
is over these days, right,Like I'm not crazy, right, I
mean you see it everywhere, anduh, I just I just I wonder
how that's gonna age, you know, not Like I just wonder if you
know, these people that are rockingthe stash, just the stash, if
(30:19):
you know, five three, fouryears from now, so you're gonna be
like what was I thinking? Ifeel like it goes in spurts, you
know, like, yeah, thecowboys back in the day, like Wyatt
Are, they all had the freakingthe big old fat mustaches. And then
there was the porn stashes from theseventies early eighties. Uh what's that Raleigh
(30:42):
fingers? Yeah, Raleigh Fingers inthe little TWIRLI yeah, there you go.
And now it's starting to come back. I know there's because I mean
I watch a lot of Yankees baseballand they have like a no clean shaven,
right. The Yankees have always beenthat way. Yeah, it was
a time Brener thing. You're you'replaying for a professional organization. You are
(31:04):
to appear to be your Your appearanceshould be professional looking is what they've always
said. But now they've loosened ita little bit so the guys can have
mustaches. And it's really weird tosee like some of these quote unquote kids
that are like twenty two, twentythree years old rocking a mustache and then
they say their age and you're like, I have sworn he was like forty,
(31:26):
right, but wasn't maddeningly rocking themuscle matingly did have Yeah, maddingly
did have a stash. It washow does he get away with it?
I think it was a you know, kind of a loosening of the range
by George Steinbrenner, and he wasthe Yankee captain to kind of let him
go with it, and he wasstill Frank, did your large intestine just
(31:48):
fall on the floor? Yes,yes, go ahead, that's what that
was your largest Yeah, wow,you probably want to get that checked out.
Yeah, you should go. Wellhe's fired, I mean he's no
longer. This is volunteer at thispoint. Oh wait, we none of
(32:13):
us get paid. It's all volunteer. Yeah, that's all volunteer. Nice.
It's so nice of us to dothis on a volunteer basis. Thank
you, sir. Yeah, goodold. I like Joe's gammick that he
has on on the the K onehundred podcasts, rocking the sunglasses all the
time. What was that you shoulddo that? I'm not gonna steal his
(32:37):
I'm not gonna steal his ship.You need copyrighted. Still, that's kind
of bush league. I think RayCharles had that copyrighted. And Steve Wonder,
he's Steve, good friend of mine, Steve Stephan, Stephan Wonder,
(33:01):
Steve Wonder. The fuck is that? Yeah? Ah? Hey, did
you guys see broad Breaker destroyed thatnight? Is that like? That?
Is that? Like? Uh?Regotta cheese Lego, legochie cheese? The
(33:32):
fine irishman rick o'she I did?I did? I did not see it?
So what what? Uh? Igot it? He power slammed him
into a car windshield? Oh jeez, Louise, Yeah, did they he
(33:57):
was real glass? It's real glass. Well that's I was gonna say,
did they use real glass? Therewas that kind of you know, like
that could cause some trouble. Therewas enough Internet trolls out there to have
did they really of course? Well, I mean listen, you know how
fickle they can be on x formerlyknown as Twitter. And somebody better check
(34:22):
on Pump to make sure let himknow it was real glass blah blah blah.
But well, it looked like bronBreaker when he threw into the control
truck. Look, he messed itup because Ricochet fell hard, hard in
the concrete, look to the pointwhere you couldn't brace himself like you're a
splat. Then the spot where theywent to the cars have happened. I
(34:49):
gotta tell you that bron Breaker dudeis something special. Yeah, he's a
lot of fun to fucking watch.That's cool. Good. I'm glad that
you're enjoying for you for saying,what did I do? No, I'm
(35:13):
saying that that's because you're not likeyou're more of a fan, and that
that's your reaction to him. Youknow, it's hard for me to gauge
based on my reaction because I'm Ijust I you know, can't help but
(35:35):
have my opinions affected by being onthe other side of things. I get
it. Yeah, I haven't.I've enjoyed seeing the ship that he does.
I'm kind of surprised. I'm kindof surprised that they haven't like leaned
into the Steiner thing. But atthe same time, they're trying to create
his own identity, which I thinkis good as well. So, but
(36:00):
they could have. They could havegone either way with that. I actually
said it, well, I thinkthey do. They do lean into it
a little bit, like he said, but he's obviously got a different name.
Yeah, but I think it's theydon't. You don't have to like
(36:21):
wonder real hard true, and hedoes, you know, kind of a
little bit of an ode to bothScott and Rick with the singlet and stuff
that he wears and the way hepresents and obviously, you know, with
(36:43):
doing the Frankens Sinner and stuff likethat. But he did one I think
it was two weeks, not thispast winds Monday, but the Monday before
where he like ran towards the cornerand basically like jumped on the middle rope
right to the top rope, andI was like, whoa, he's an
Yeah, he's athletic. He's athleticas hell. Yeah, Yeah, I
saw that one too. I believeI would imagine it's the same one,
(37:06):
but it might be something that he, you know, like the way Angle
used to run up the ropes,Like you find certain things that are in
your wheelhouse that like you just know, like, okay, athletically, I'm
I'm capable of this, and whenyou know you can hit those ten out
of ten times, like those arethe things you go with. And he's
(37:28):
athletic enough, maybe that's maybe that'sone of those things for him that like
he knows, I'm gonna hit thisevery time, right, Yeah, yeah,
you remember remember when Scott Steiner firstdid that move? But like the
craziest thing s Freigensteiner. Oh mygod, yeah it was. It was
(37:52):
a big thing back there. Wellyeah, I mean if you look at
it, it's still kind of abig thing and it's still crazy. But
it's just that the ante has beenupped, you know, in such a
way that it's like, you know, how do you how do you do
(38:13):
something that nobody's seen at this point. It's just you know, Ricochet does
backwards two and a half, youknow, like it's you know, where
does it end? Where does itstop? Yes? I mean and back
in the day. Like back inthe day, they weren't quite as athletic
(38:37):
as the guys are now. Thatare what you mean. Hogan's leg drop
wasn't as athletic as I'm not.I'm not doing anything hero, I mean,
I'm just saying. Yeah, I'mjust saying it made him six inches
shorter. Yeah, I mean whenit comes crashing down, hurt inside.
(39:00):
Yeah, you gotta take a sand, you gotta take a stand. I
don't hurt to hide. No,No, that's not hurt, Frank,
it's it don't help to hide hurthelp was close. Yeah, I mean
those are very different things. LikeI don't ever say to somebody, hey,
(39:22):
could you hurt me out? Thatmight get taken out of context really
lit. Yeah, yeah, Idon't. I would ever, like if
I was drowning, I would Iwould never scream like hurt, hurt,
hurt me, hurt me, hurtme? Right, I mean that's true,
(39:47):
that is true, Frank. Yourlogic is very very fish Yeah foolish,
Yeah, yeah, very flawed.Right. Yeah, that's fine.
We still love you, Frank.Hey, you know who else was at
River City Wrestle con Sean Gross Austinares front of the show. Yeah,
(40:16):
I had some good, good chatswith Austin Ares as well. Nice.
Yeah right now, yeah, yeah, he did some backstage work as well,
which it was just good to Uhyeah, I mean he's another one
(40:38):
man that I think his outlook onthe industry has always been from a different
viewpoint. And he's another one that'syou know, love mor Hayen. The
guy's ballsy and he's not afraid tobe himself in lake. How do you
not have some respect for that?And I just appreciate his h his candor.
(41:06):
But yeah, that was I don'tsomething that one he has just said
made me think of aries awesome areas. I don't I don't know what it
was. But yeah, that waskind of kind of random. But that's
all right. Listen, this showwas kind of built on randomness. Mm
hmmm. So it's fine randomness Bukakis, mm hmm, randomness Boukakis. Yes,
(41:35):
Yes, what's on the dog ofhis weekend? Uh? I got
some d DP yoga. Nice.I am doing a class on Saturday,
and uh, I'm actually gonna bedoing some. I did some today,
(41:57):
I'm gonna be doing some tomorrow.But then I have I'm doing a class
on Saturday. Nice good stuff.Yeah, that's my weekend classes open to
the public. And people still signup. Go to where they gotta find
this class? No people can no, never mind, Nope, forget that,
(42:22):
No they can't. It's pretty nice. So what are the what do
you guys got planned for father orwhat is planned for you for Father's Day?
You're talking to me or Frank eithertalking to me? Are you talking
to me? I'll start with thisshow. I don't really care. Well,
uh, I don't. I don'treally have anything planned. Willow is
(42:51):
her dad's but we will be probablypicking her up over the weekend. Not
sure, we haven't worked out thedetails. And then my other kids,
uh uh, you know they don'tfair enough New York. They're in They're
(43:20):
in New York here in Florida.So there's that. I've got a wibblew
question. Actually, is Willow stillplaying the violin? No, she's doing
jiu jitsu. How did you getout of that? She's doing jiu jitsu?
Yeah, we taught her how tochoke people because the violin thing is
creeping its way to my house?Which one which kid? Uh via,
(43:45):
and we we just had this conversationwhen you're up here. I'm like,
man, how the hell is it? I'm not talking her out of it.
It's got to be more than thedays of Wow, why are you
trying to talk around of it?Yeah, but I mean, if she's
in, if she likes it,Like I the only reason we took Willow
(44:07):
out of it was because she wasn'tShe wasn't all in. You know,
you never discouraged him from the performingarts, Frank. Yeah, she wasn't
all in. She and yeah,so it's just been a matter of like
(44:27):
trying to find what her thing is. And you know, so jiu jitsu
was something she wanted to give ashot too, and so she's still in
the midst of figuring that out.Now she enjoys it, so yeah.
I mean, if they're not intoit, that's one thing. But as
a father of a performing arts child, don't discourage it. Yeah, it'll
(44:50):
get better. Listen, when you'restarting out, you weren't good at whatever
it is that you do when youfirst started it too, Frank, You're
not You're not good at anything.Frank. Hmmmm. Not only do you
get professional restaurant on here, youget life lessons. That's right. You
(45:12):
don't know what you're gonna get takefrom us. You came to Grips a
long time ago with the fact that, like I guess, I'm just not
good at anything. Breathing. You'renot good at breathing. That's really not
that hard. It's also breathing orreading. Yeah, also involuntary action.
(45:36):
You just do it. Yeah,it's a good thing. You don't have
to read to live, are you, because you'd be in trouble. All
right? You got going with menbecause Bobby is not always doing Let tomorrow,
I just told you what I'm doing. I'm doing DDP told you this.
(45:58):
DJ does not do JA this week. But I am leaving tomorrow afternoon
to go to Turning Stone to seeTom Segura, which I'm looking forward to,
and then home on Saturday, andthen the kids have something planned for
mothers for Father's Day. Maybe mothermother's Father's different, so that's kind of
(46:20):
it. But looking forward to seeingSegura tomorrow night, which you know,
top three stand up comics of thatfor me? Who are the other two?
Yeah, you can't leave at themoment. Like my three favorites right
now, Bill Burr, Dave Chappelleand Tom Sagura m h. Frank,
(46:45):
Yes, who cares present? Reallytaking attendance to Frank your favorite comedians,
Sean grows Rose, Alex Irwin,Mike Blazon nice, Wow, what blazing
(47:10):
hot Mike? Is he alive?I don't think so. He may also
be in prison. So hm.He's always looked like he was made of
candle wax. Pretty sure he was. Yeah, I can tell you he
was full of ship, had alot of stories that must have stoked a
(47:37):
lot, a lot of a lotof stories came out of that guy's mouth.
Told me once that he was thathe did the Wu Tang clan had
asked him to be in the group. And well, I know I didn't
believe I told you that. Ididn't say. I can confirm that.
Oh I heard that too. AlexIrwin told me that was the stage name.
(47:59):
Oh my blazeper pipe pipe he had, He had a one he was
His name was potty Piper, pottytpoudy, potty Piper. Now when now,
when Alex, Mike and Sean rolledtogether, did they get out of
(48:22):
a little volkswagon, did there likea beetle? H got that? I
didn't. I didn't anyway, allright, take you home? Is that
where we're going. Yeah, Ithink it's time to go home. All
right, let's go Bobby Fish Appareldot Com for all your Bobby Fish needs.
(48:46):
Mm hmmm. M l W ml W needs appearance Tampa early July.
It's not that far away. Atsome point in the first two weeks
anywhere. I think. No,I think it's the twelfth. I think
(49:07):
it's the twelfth. Look it upon a calendar. Is the twelfth a
Saturday or a Thursday? A Thursday? That was great Saint Saint Saint Pete
on July twelfth, So July twelfthis a Friday, Okay, I think
(49:30):
that that might be it. Ithink Saturday though, that's the next time
I posted it on my Twitter.I'm sure. Hold on, look this
is great, op, see youlater. Yeah, I'll be back.
Can you still hear me? Yeah? Weekend? All right, Yeah it
(49:51):
is. It's July twelfth, Friday, July twelfth. There you go,
three stages of the destructure in Tampa. Yeah, and I know that Menora's
Suzuki is gonna wrestle Akira. Thereis a living legend on this card.
Mister Bill Alfonso'll be managing, He'llbe managing Matt Justice that day. So
(50:20):
there'll be two living legends, becausewe've already established that Bobby's two hundred and
fifty five years old. I thoughtyou were I thought you were going to
say Larry's Obisco was on the showtoo, one of the true legends.
Yes, yes, also, butyeah, Menora's Uzuki versus Akira on that
(50:40):
show. Nice twelve. Oh andI'll be wrestling Kenta on that show.
Oh that's right. Yeah, that'llbe first round of the Opera Cup and
uh man i U I am lookingforward to getting in the ring with Kenta
(51:06):
for sure. I cannot imagine therewill be a lot of daylight in that
match. No, no, theywill be. There'll be. Yeah,
it's gonna be. It's gonna begood. A slabber knocker. Dare we
say, mm hmm? Good ship? Yeah, good ship? Before we
wrap. Anybody watching Clash at theCastle this week? I think I might
(51:30):
have to Will that be Sunday,Saturday? Saturday afternoon? As a matter
of fact, it's like at twoo'clock start, Yeah, because they're overseas.
It's a Cody right, what's up? A j and Cody right?
It should be. I would assumethat's gonna be a good one. A
(51:51):
J. Francis, he was atRiver City Wrussell con too different. I
think it's a different AJ though I'mnot. I could be wrong. That's
happened before. Yeah, A J. Dewey A J. Dewey, Miami
Dolphins. No, we're getting furtherfrom where we wanted. Okay, going
(52:16):
in the wrong direction. Mm hmoh, and we got Drew versus what's
his nuts there? It's the champDamian Priest got it took a minute to
get there. It should be agood show. I have to watch it.
Drew, Drew Huberman, Drew Carry. I couldn't think of a Drew,
(52:43):
So I thought of Andrew Huberman becauseI was trying to come up with
a Drew. But I couldn't.How could I not? How could I
not go with Drew Carrot? Idon't know. I don't know either.
I don't know. Okay, allright, it's time for Frank to go
(53:04):
pick up his large and tests andwell, yeah, plus he's got that,
he's got his late night gig atthe Blue Oyster. He's got to
get to too at the Blue Cocky. At the Blue Cocky, what I
feel like the Blue Oyster. Abetter name for it would have been the
(53:27):
Blue Cocky. H More descriptive,sure, a lot more descriptive, Yes,
yes, yes correct. Bobbyfish Appareldot com, Bobby Fish Booking seven
at gmail dot com. And that'sa wrap on the show. Frank,
(53:49):
you got anything to add, that'sfantastic. Thank you for being so enthusiastic,
Nor do I so. On thatnote, say good night, bout
night, Bobby
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