November 22, 2023 • 48 mins
This week Bobby Fish and The Demi Boys talk a little Survivor Series: War Games! Bobby talks about his experience with "War Games" and shares some memories about being in not just one but two "War Games" matches. Somehow, Bobby and the boys end up talking about Bobby severing his tricep about 10 minutes after his entry into the match. He gives us some of the brutal details about getting "fixed" backstage after the match and more. The fellas share some thoughts on who they think "The Devil" is in AEW, the storyline surrounding "The Devil" and the dangers of letting it go too long or too short. And of course how the payoff needs to be something special. They round out the show by giving their favorite Thanksgiving side dishes and "Bobby's Best Bets"
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The owner of the most educated professionalthe professor might call him. We call
the show, and I mean,folks, where's the line. It's time
for the Undisputed Podcast with Fish.Welcome back to the critically acclaimed on the
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podcast. A part of the JoeFeenie creative control control Work. Yeah,
that's a good DJ. But Scottsand that's Robert Redford below me. Robert,
Yeah, that's me. Sundance Kid. Is that who you were?
The Sundance Kid? The Sundance kidhe was wasn't Yeah, he was a
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Sundance Wow, that's going way back. Yeah. Thanksgiving show, Ah it
is. It's the Gobbledy Googer show. We should we were all supposed to
dressed as the comedy booger that was. I did not get that memo?
Uh or text? Or was that? The biggest letdown in pro wrestling was
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the Goblin? Think? Yeah,well either him or I mean in w
W gobbledy, but uh, Ithink in all of wrestling you definitely have
given him a run for his gobbledinggooger money is uh the shop mister oh
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free Oven. Sure, he's definitelygonna be up there. Tigger. Yeah,
A part of Destroy You you,uh you heard Undertaker's thoughts when he
thought he was going to be likeegg Man or whatever. Did you hear
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him tell that story original so becausehe was, well, no, he
thought he thought it because I mean, obviously it's not my story to tell
because I'm not the Undertaker. Butsorry, kfe prank Jesus Christ. But
he, uh, he went toVince's house, had the interview whatever they
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met for I think a couple ofhours. They sat and talked and he
left didn't hear anything. And that'sabout the time where they started working that
eggs, that giant egg story ofthe and that was and so but so
Undertaker thought, Jesus Christ, I'mgonna end up being like egg Man or
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something. Yeah, and he waslike what am I doing? What did
I do? And that's and beforethey even did that, Vince called and
was like, you know, it'sthe Undertaker there, and Undertaker figured out
what we were talking what he wassupposed Yes, the Undertaker, but obviously
he tells it a lot better becausehe was there. That's his story.
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Yeah, yeah, so, butyeah, it was should tell it.
Maybe maybe maybe Mark was that closeto becoming the Gobbly Cooker. I mean,
that would have been really a funnyreference at this point, you know,
if he went on to have thesame Undertaker career and the streak and
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all that stuff, but he hada brief stop that's the gobbled Cooker or
ann. Yeah, I think it'stoo. I think it's amazing too that
that that Undertaker character literally was likethe brainchild of Vince, Like he had
what the fuck is squeaking? Doyou have a cat with you? Yeah,
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that's a KITT's but that was weadopted the little little little kid.
Is it a kitten? It's akitten. If if he gets close enough
to me, I'll get him oncamera. Thank you. I think I'm
still I'm still scarred from that.So yeah, that'll just be for when
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moves as well. Yeah good,I'm still trying to work through that one
in therapy. But so what dowe want to what do we want to
talk about? It's not ye.You know, there was something I saw
the NXT ring announcer she Alicia,she posted something about it was her and
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Cody Rhodes. I didn't see thevideo, but she was just hearkening back
to like her childhood when her grandmotheror her mother used to take her to
I don't remember the name of thearena, but it was to see Dusty
Nice. And then here she isall these years later, and like she
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was a musician and stuff, likeshe had, you know, a career
and everything, but still was thislike little girl wrestling fan and back in
the days of the American Dream.And you know, now she's in the
ring interviewing Cody and then different,you know Cody, like a different like
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a Cody that's way more like hisfather these days because of the opportunities that
he's getting and you know, createdfor himself very much in the spirit of
you know, Dusty. Dusty wasalways considered like kind of a kind of
an outlaw, like kind of goout and do it his way. And
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yeah, I just thought it wasreally cool, kind of came together.
She and I appreciated it too.She was She was the one that when
I was with n XT and wewere in Pennsylvania and my uncle Bill was
was at the show. She announcedmy uncle Bill to the crowd and oh
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mentioned how he was. Yeah,I have it on video on my phone
somewhere. I'll send it to you. You know. I mentioned how he
was created. Korean War uh ohand uh, you know, he got
to stand up and I went overto him in the crowd and the fans,
like the crowds literally started chaining.It's awesome, that's awesome. Yeah,
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it was really it was really reallykind of a kind of cool moment,
and it was nice to be ableto give him that. Yeah,
that's awesome. Yeah, that's that'sthat's good stuff. Speaking of Cody,
he's got a big big thing comingup this weekend Survivor series. Oh yeah,
he is on the war Games.It's on the poster. Yeah,
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it's his face with paint on it. Yep. Not like the Ultimate Warrior
either. No, it's like ait's like warp, not war paint,
camouflage paint like M M. Camoand then like the American flag, right
yeah, I think so. Yeah, but yeah, they got the the
big big war Games happened in thisweek. Yeah, so this will be
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the Is this the first time thewar Games? No? Second? Right,
that's on the main roster. Yeah, because last year it was Bloodline,
Bloodline with Sammy and I don't rememberwho, Frank, Kevin Steen,
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Eric Owens hang on Frank's Frank's thinking, I can smell well anyway, anyway,
who's in it this year? Like, so, Cody, I'm gonna
say l a night. No,No, No, Cody, Jay Usa,
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Yes, Sammy Jay, Sammy Zayyuh No, he's not Jesus,
he's Frank. You're killing me.So Cody's team is Cody, Seth Rollins
jays, I'm gonna get this cat. Thanks for helping Frank. Yeah,
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hang on, I got I got, I got hold music for us.
Excuse me, thank you for callingthe Undisputed Podcast. Your call is very
important to us. Well answer assoon as pop nothing there we go.
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No, we can hear you.Where'd you go? We got only one
ear words? That's weird. Ican't hear you if I had the other
one now sorry, Cody Jacobs,Jay, Seth, Seth Rollins, Sammy's
saying, and they're they're up againstWow, that's forget. No, no,
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no, I'm gonna I'm gonna onethat was announced last night is coming
because Bobby wasn't watching last night,so we'll drop that. And they're taking
on uh judgment, thank you,and with Drew McIntire. Ah, So
Drew is there's been a lot ofchatter about Drew's heel turn, so he's
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he's not part of Judgment Day.He doesn't like them, but he he
doesn't like is it Jay that hehasn't? So you gotta beat for jus
because the bloodline, you know,ran rough shot over pretty much fucking everybody.
So and it was Roman that beatYeah for the title. So Jay
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helped in that and it was partof Yes, he might have I think
he was just kinda it was likeha ha, and Drew's holding a grudge.
And then last night because they neededa fifth member because Judgment Day and
Drew that's five. So last nightCody dropped a bomb on everybody. At
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the end of Raw. Their fifthmember be Randy Orton with a little easter
egg during the announcement because if youpaid attention to jay Usha's face, he
was like shit because the last timewe saw Randy Orton, Randy was with
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Matt Riddle and the USOS beat themfor the undisputed tag titles. Oh and
I'm pretty sure Jay and Jimmy werethe reason the reason in air quotes that
Randy's been gone all this time?How'd I do Frank that good stuff that
I was? I was paying attention, by the way, never could I
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ever recite anything like that if itwas school related? Continue on, But
he can do it here, that'sthe important part. Yes. So last
year's Survivor series was the Bloodline Romanj Jimmy Solo and Sammy and they took
on the Brawling Brouge Seamus Ridge,Holland Butch, Drew McIntyre and Kevin Owens.
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Ah. Yes, yes, yes, yes that I did not just
know. I had to use theGoogle machine. And the year before was
Kyle's last Badge or war Games KyleO'Reilly? No, the last war games
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that Kyle was in we all did? I thought he did? He wrestle.
There was a war games he wrestled. I want to do so with
Johnny guard get that, I thinkso. I don't think so. I
think that the only war games Kylewrestled him was. That's the undus he
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talks amongst yourself. We're going toresearch that one. Do want to put
the whole music back on? FrankWell, I mean, you know most
podcasts do to research first before theshow. They also probably come up with
what they're going to talk about first, So, yeah, who's that?
And then listen Even when we actuallyhave formats do we really stick to him
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or do we try to swerve allover the fucking road and get to where
we're going? Shane, we SwearveStrickling, Yes, I have something.
Yes, I don't know. Idon't know. He was never in Award
Games. Who's that, Shane SwearveStrickland. Oh okay, he could end
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up being in the Blood and Guns. That's true, which is kind of
a god damn really well, Yawn, I stay it correct. It was.
It was the Black and Gold thosearg l A Knight, Pete Dunn
and Champa. Yeah, I toldyou what did I see? But I
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sworn? Oh? Whatever? Isit probably odd that La Knight doesn't have
a match at Survivor Series. Yeah, but war Games is a big undertaking.
It ties up a lot of peoplea lot of time. They're going
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to give it. Oh, Ithink it's the expectation is that even some
of the top guys are going totake a seat on the bench for that
paper view or live event or PMpremium live events. There's two because they
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got a woman's War Games too.M hm, let me guess, Becky
Lynch. Yeah, uh yeah,but that they're on the same team,
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right, Yeah, And then theygot Eo Kyrie saying damage control maybe yeah,
I think so against Becky, Charlotte, Bianca and I don't know,
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hang on, it's Bianca, Charlotte, Shatzi, Becky first, damage control
and carry sane. Okay. Wealso wait a minute, there's only four
five matches bar Ye got thrown amidge and an ascobar. That's you know,
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I'm all for Carlito getting getting anothershot, and then you got Ria
Ripley and Zoe Stark. Hmm.I want to watch Quitcher, although I
may I think we are. I'llwatched for already waring to come out.
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I'll watch that. What's the thoughtprocess behind the war games and what's your
what's your meatality going into it?I mean, we had we had time
to work on things. I thinkafter doing the first one. The first
one was kind of like, Idon't I liked the first one. We
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did for sure, but after thatwe kind of had a blueprint. At
least. The toughest part was justkind of wrangling all the ideas because the
narrowing down process is what it is, and in the beginning, you know,
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every like the ideas are just kindof scattered all over the place.
So whose idea was it to getyour arm cut on the cage? To
get my arm cut, didn't youtell your bicet or my tricep severed?
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That was somebody in creative. Wow, she's real creative. Yeah, that
you know. And now I thinkI do have a torn bicep, which
is wonderful. But I did thaton my own. I did that training
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with Liam Harrison and Andy Harrison atwhat is what is? Uh? What
is? Malachi's Jim called the Somethingof the Dark. It's not the House
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of Black, No, No,it's Something against the Dark Guards. But
but we both have a fondness formoy Tai and Liam the hitman. Harrison
and his cousin Andy like two ofthe biggest Muay Thai officionados in the UK.
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They came over. I had agreat experience with all of it.
Just I'm pretty sure I tore mybicet, so it wasn't fun. Shit
happens, I guess. Yeah.Yeah, this, this, my friends,
is why I sit on the couch. Yeah, I wish I did
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that day. So back to theWar Games, how early in the match
did you do did you do it? You know you did it? And
I knew I did something. Iknew I did something. I didn't know
what it was. It was probablyabout ten minutes in for me. I
think I was the second one inand I think it was about ten minutes.
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I was the second one on ourteam, I believe, And it
was about ten minutes into me comingin and I knew, like because there
was blood, so I knew therewas something and then I thought like,
okay, I'm believing it is whatit is. They had to tape me
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a little bit, which they did, and then I just remember feeling it,
never really feeling quite normal, likenormally when you have something that feels
like, oh that's that's more thanjust a thing. Sometimes that goes away
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and then you're like, oh no, I'm good, I'm okay, I'm
okay. And that never happened.So I knew there was there was something,
you know, rotten in Denmark,but I didn't know what it was
until we got to the back afterwards. In a Tara, one of the
medical staff at the PC, shewas looking cleaning it out, cleaning out
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to cut my elbow, and shewas where she was looking, She's like,
I should see tendon and I don'tI see bone so that was when
we kind of knew, like becauseit didn't roll up, so I didn't
know. I didn't think like Itore it. But what had happened was
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whatever piece of the cage cut myelbow, it also severed like seventy five
percent of the tendon from so itwas just holding on by a thread.
And they had to go in andclean it out anyway, so to make
sure that, you know, therewas no contaminants or infection or anything.
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And so they read attached it whilethey were in there, which was,
you know, that was the leastthey can do. Yeah, the fun
that's nice. A yeah, that'syeah. And then the recovery I mistakenly
heard six weeks. I was like, wow, that's crazy. It was
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sixteen weeks. A little oversight,a little overside. Yeah, well yeah,
jesus yeah. And in that downtime, that's when the Undisputed Era fell
apart. And I then went toHelena Handbag I called inside job. I
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think a cabotage. I think ofsabotage site. You're telling me that Bobby
sacrificed this so that the Undisputed Erawould fall apart. I think somebody purposely
had the little sharp pieces of thecage. I think it was Tony Khan.
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I think it was no probably Jones. No, I mean, with
the conspiracy theory that Frank's going with, I think it might have been Alex
Jones that had something to do withit. He's a big conspiracy theory guy.
Is that anyway, Frank? Doyou think the Earth is flat?
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Too? No? Okay, that'sjust that's just top didn you guys hear
The Rock on Joe Rogan? Ihave not had a chance to listen to
the episode, You guys, Ilistened to I think all of it or
part of it. I don't thinkI listened to all of it and listened
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to part of it. You gotto follow up, Frank, what the
fuck asked a question? Yeah?I think at certain parts Joe kind of
catches It's I kind of got theimpression he was trying to get the Rock
to say something you want to sayor I don't know, it just seemed
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a little awkward at that times.Are you telling me that Joe was trying
to get the Rock to admit thatthe steroids there was that and the political
stuff too. I don't think theRock Dwayne Johnson is as well versed the
political game as you may think heis, and when you have somebody like
Joe Rogan who is hip to thatkind of stuff, I kind of think
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he was trying to, you know, take deliveries if you will. Yeah,
I mean I think, you know, it's a tough h it's a
tough spot to be in the rock, as visible as he is and as
big of an entity as he is. Like, yeah, part of that
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is he's supposed to be up tospeed on everything, but I mean,
there's only so many hours in aday, and when you have that much
money and everything, like shit,you're entitled. I'm sure you've worked pretty
damn hard to get there, soyou're entitled to spend a good portion of
your time doing things you enjoy doing. The man obviously likes to work out.
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I'm pretty sure he spends not becauseyou have to spend countless hours to
look like that, but I'm sayingmore because I just think the man fucking
enjoys it, like it's just ashappy place. So yeah, I mean,
I don't know. He probably istrying to be more political up to
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speed than he actually wants to be. I mean, it's kind of the
way it goes. I mean,I know, I know Joe is pretty
set in his beliefs and stuff likethat too, And I'm sure, I'm
sure The Rock and Joe politically don'tsee eye to eye, but I but
I also feel like the Rock issmart enough not to do that to himself.
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Yeah, you know, he's he'swell trained in media relations. Yeah
yeah, not that, not thathe has someone training him, but I'm
sure he has people. And healso has been doing this for quite some
time. And he's not a stupidhuman. He knows. I'm not going
down that fucking path like we're notdoing that. Yeah. Yeah, well
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I will say this, and Ionly watched it once, but there was
something Chill Sun was getting into andchill you know, he'll be a little
bit of a lightning ro what's that? Yes, he was commenting on Uh.
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It seemed as if he was claimingthat both Joe and The Rock were
being a little bit fake with eachother. Really, yeah, that was,
And now that's Jelle Son's sake,obviously, it's not mine, you
know, I'm just I'm just recyclingwhat I heard. I'm interested to hear
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because I listened to Jail too.I'm interested to hear what he has to
say on his next couple podcasts,because this was just a clip. I
don't think he's that far off inthat. Now. I think about some
of the guys I've seen of JoeRogan that, yeah, there there could
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be some truth that he's saying thatwith not just a rock but other people
he's had on Well, I mean, I'm gonna say this, at this
point, it's safe to assume andalmost safe to say. Things are never
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quite what they seem to be.And that's across the board. Mm hm.
I mean that goes for the Presidentof the United States, especially right
now, all the way to everycelebrity, every pro wrestler, every pro
athlete, every boxing match, everylike nothing is ever as clear cut and
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simple as people think it is.Like there's just there's big money to be
made or lost, and whenever thatis introduced to the formula, things have
an ability to get weird, andgenerally they are get weird. Like the
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Bukack Lounge weird, that gets weird. That does get weird, Yeah,
yeah, it does, especially onSaturday nights. Yeah, after dark.
Why would you go to the BukkakiLounge during the day then is wrong with
you? They have a good lunchbox lunch you guys remember to Carlos?
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Yeah? Did they really really somethinglike that? They definitely had lunch.
There were some fucking scumbags in Albanythat definitely go to the Carlos lunch there.
What is it yet? It's gonnabe Yesterday's too, right? Is
that what they're calling it? Frank? Yes, they're bringing it back.
So it's going back to yesterday's toto yesterday two not the number, Frank,
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t O isn't to just call itTuesdays? I died? You'd have
to ask them. Good point.Yeah, they didn't come to me when
they were like, hey, whatshould we call it? Because I was
like September's was dope when Mike Tysonowned it. I guess mm hmmm years
and years and years ago. Mmhmmm. Yeah, you're doing research,
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Frank, I am okay, Andwhat something we want to talk about?
You shared the class? No?No, I like that. You looked
at your phone and like double checkbecause clearly I was going over last week's
best bets. Oh shit, funk, I gotta figure out my picks this
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week? Ship fuck. So briefly, recap as we brought it up.
Uh, I always wanted to justjust out of curiosity. How would you
long winded? How would you longwindedly recap as opposed to briefly recap.
I go the whole with the year, league records and all that stuff.
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I believe, break it down bypercentages. We do pretty the funk you're
doing math? Get out of hereanyway. Records. I was one and
two, you were two and oneand they got blow it with over three?
Did you said it was one andtwo or two and one? You
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were two and one? I wasone and two. I lost the Bill's
Jets game. Didn't you at leastwin on the bye team? Uh?
Good? How'd I do on thegame that didn't happen? Yeah? H
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ship. Yeah. This week isgonna be weird, weird waggy stuff,
weird waggy stuff because Thanksgiving well,it's just it's really weird that I mean,
because first of all, they gotThanksgiving, there's a game on Friday,
they're doing a Black Friday. That'sthat's weird, which is odd.
And then Sunday plus NFL, likelast night was Monday Night Football too,
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So it's like bottom bottom. Butdude, so out the year you are
twenty and eight? Who is you? You? Me? Yes, I
am nineteen and nine and the guybelow me is seventeen nine and one below
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you? Hey now hey now betterinterviewer Howard Sterner, Joe Rogan, Howard
Stern, Yeah, yep, absolutelya guy that has elevated his game.
Uh evolution. Who Yes, it'sgrown up. He's grown up a lot
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his He had barber last week weekbefore, Yeah, and like two weeks
ago, and she asked, sheasked to be on the show. Of
course she did. It's crazy though, because there's there's it's he's getting a
lot of these guests that are comingon a show now that you would never
really like the old Stern, Likewhen he was on terrestrial radio. Nobody
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they were was not going no,I mean, although it was crazy because
like when he was still on commercialradio, is when he had seen on,
which I thought was kind of cool. Vince on he had Stephanie on
picture, Yeah, yes he had. It was part of the they all
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fit together, Ben Stephanie McMahon goodchair. Yeah. Two of them run
a carnival show and the other oneshould be on a carnival show. So
it actually is he's part of thewhaa So one of the whack pack member
is local. Jeff Drunk. Jeffto Drunk is local? Yeah? Really
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yeah, no, ship, Ido this for facts. I can tell
you the story we're done that Ican't reveal, like fair enough. I
like how I said that, likeI was first of all, like I
was fully surprised, and then secondof all, like I was excited about
it because there's something we should beproud of. There we go. We
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got Jeff to Drunk out of Altamontand Sarah Toga was just named the drunkest
city in America? Was it really? Yeah? At your backyard mine?
What you was? Your health?Sta? I well, I mean I
lived there mostly to me before leavingto move Florida, Florida. I like
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how you asked him that question,Like you didn't know where Bobby was from.
We went to high school together fromright, you went to college?
Yeah, travel the football team.I thought, essoy, come on,
(34:29):
come on, Frank, but no, I listen. And it's not to
take anything away from Rogan's uh interviewing, although Rogan's interviewing is a lot more
conversation than it, Like Howard islike a it's conversational but gets a lot
of ship out of people that youwould not expect people to just kind of
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open up and say mm hmmm,Like I think Howard starn could get to
the heart of the rock and thesteroids. That's just me. I don't
you would do it in a waywhere the Robert answer the question and we
wouldn't even know he's answered the question. Yeah, like, oh shit,
oh I answered the question. Yeah, damn it. His His interview with
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Springsteen was phenomenal, was it really? I'm not saying Bruce Springsteen fan.
I'm not a fan of Bruce Springsteen'smusic either his music I don't know I
personally whatever, But to listen tothe way that those two talked, and
just to listen to how open Springsteenwas to talk about the process that he
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went through with writing music, learningto play guitar and all that ship.
I mean, music is a isa huge passion of mine anyway, so
learning and listening about that stuff iskind of cool because I can't sing or
write music or play an instrument,which is why why I play other people's
music and I don't play Okay,yeah, I know you are, because
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I too, am eight years old, Frank so woa alright, so Survivor
series. That's Saturday. Yeah,they're not doing P L. E.
S or or A W's. They'renot doing Sundays anymore, are they.
(36:27):
Everybody does Saturdays. Everybody does iton Saturday. Yeah. I think it's
a smart maneuver. If you wantto get a full audience, absolutely produce
Saturday night or Saturday. Yeah,especially if you're gonna put on a seven
hour show, Like I don't wantto be up till two in the morning
on a Sunday night, all right, that's just me. There was there
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was wrestled manias that start at seveno'clock and they usually wouldn't get twelve thirty.
They're late. Yeah, they ranlong Holy ship then don't want to
go to bed, and yeah,there's definitely a suite spot for those I
don't think. I think the takeoverswere actually really well well done in that
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way, like kept two and ahalf three hours top who always. I
think that added to it, youknow, because technically those are not the
times to like build anything. You'rethere, these are the blowoffs. Yeah,
you've already gotten the building, youalready got in the building. Yeah,
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blow it off then maybe leave aleave a unanswered question at the very
end for one thing to build tothe next one. But beyond that,
you know what I best anymore?I don't think see that's where I like
about the whole JF the Devil deal. It just it's got that who shot
(37:57):
Jr? Type? That's why Ilove. That's cool. I I think
it's a slippery slope though too.Really be careful not to like go too
long with it, exactly right,Like that's you know, where your skill
as a booker comes in is knowingwhen to pull that trigger because if you
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pull it too early, you didn'tget enough juice from the squeeze. And
if you pull it too late,you run the risk of losing the crowd.
One of that. That's kind oflike the Black Scorpion deal back in
the day. It went on solong. Don't make cared that it was
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Rick Flair. After a while itwas like, well, and it was
the Shockmaster voice too. Yeah,it was only Anderson answering machine boys.
But the one thing I heard too, uh with the Devil thing, because
I was spending some time listening toBusted Open, and they you know,
(39:07):
uh, the pros on the showsaid the payoff and the reveal have to
be done executed. Well, yes, well, you know, the reveal
needs to be done well and thepayoff to it needs to be worth the
ship that's got it. Yeah,I mean, you don't want to let
the air out of the balloon there, right, And it's it's a good
(39:28):
way to take your fans and reallyjust have them lose faith in you more
than because you're like, really,I spent all that time and I invested
my my emotions in that and mycare and it was it was me like
you know, going full circle.It's gobbled googer. It could be No,
(39:49):
no, that's a comparison, yeah, gobbledy googer. Yeah yeah,
because that egg was something big andyeah, some dumb fucking a chick and
cost them. Yeah. Well,I'm genuinely excited to see how with how
this turns out, especially when theydid the think copies ago when they beat
up they claimed that good stuff.I think. I mean, I don't
(40:15):
and it's not a knock. Ijust don't spend a lot of time watching
a w but I do like whatthey're doing. I do like mjf's work,
Like I think he is He's definitelytalented. Yeah, there's no question
about that. I mean, there'sa case that could be made for him
(40:36):
and Osprey being like the two guyswith the most momentum in the industry outside
of I mean, he could throwl a Night into there too, as
far as just having like the band'sapproval without the company. Not that the
(41:00):
company isn't behind the three people Ijust mentioned, but I'm saying that fans
would be behind them company you're not. You can kind of throw Cody in
there too, Yeah, a littlebit. Jay. So if we can
(41:22):
get Jada, we could get ridof the yeat from Jay. That would
be fun. Yet it's Jay's whatbasically he says, yey, like what
happened there? I don't what arewe doing? Stop it? We don't
need that. But yeah, soany who? Any who? Should we
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get to Bobby's best bets? Franklin, Yes, I'm getting tired, let's
do it. Quick side note,real, real, real, quick side
note before we get into Bobby's bestbets? Mm hmm, best side son,
Thanksgiving? Just one swo potatoes friends, Yeah, I gotta go with
(42:07):
Okay, I'm just gonna say pumpkinpie or sweet I mean if we go
well, okay, well the sweetpotatoes is mine as well. Okay,
there potatoes fair enough. I ama I'm a stuffing guy. Love stuff,
the castle roll, sweet potato.What you know what? Last year
(42:29):
I made a zucchini because we're vegan. I made and it was good.
It was god damn good. Idon't know what I'll do this year.
I might not be Was there azoom? We did you just make zucchini?
Or was it was not zucchini?It was a squash, a stuff
squash. Oh okay, stuff squash, but no no meat. No,
(42:55):
I don't remember what I stuffed itwith. But it was good. Goal.
I gotta look it up. Frank, what the fuck? I gotta
look it up again. We'll see, We'll see, we'll see, we'll
see. I was like, we'revegan. There was no meat. What's
your stuff? It with gobbol?Thank you? It's just like Franks,
(43:20):
I just wanted to say it.It was cool when they said it on
the Sopranos. I wanted to sayit too. And know it's funny.
I I don't think I've ever hadit. I don't think that's that funny.
I didn't find it all that funny. Let's just let's face it,
frank just like saying the word gobble, and when give it a chance.
(43:42):
When given the chance, he wantsto say, Joel too, I love
Yeah, I'm sure you do.All right, say that kind of thing.
There you go, which kind ofthing that he likes, bra Joel,
Yes, it's an Italian dish.We're good. And yeah I'm going.
(44:05):
I'm going with stuffing, and thereyou go, and everybody, something's
definitely never bad. I mean,I'm not mad at stuffing. I mean
I love a home, like agood homemade stuffing. I'll take stovetop though
if I have to, but Idon't want to. So there you go.
Happy Thanksgiving. Fuckers. Give usa let's do picks. Okay,
(44:27):
all right, who first? Dassgoes first? And see you had the
winning record that way, all right? Uh, let's see, I'm taking
Cowboys over Commanders, give me Lionsover the Packers. Those are two Thursday
games. And then I'm taking theGiants over the Patriots, which by the
(44:52):
way, is just gonna be ashitty, shitty game on Sunday. Okay,
Franklin, I'm gonna go Houston theRams and let's ride with the Denver
Broncos. Hm hmm, that's allright. I'm gonna go with the Nuggets,
(45:19):
the Niners, and the let's gowith the Chiefs. You know the
Nuggets played basketball, right, yeah, okay, so the Denver Broncos,
ah bolts, y'all going with theBroncos over the Browns. Okay, alright,
(45:40):
alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, all right,
okay, lock of it, Okay, alright, boys and girls.
Yeah, I apologize for the shortnessof tonight, but we're coming back next
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week bigger and better and aver becausenow we've got some sponsors. We got
some advertising folks out there who won'thear us do what we do. Okay,
that's that. Are you in adifferent show than I am? Yeah?
I don't maybe, but listen,once again, thank you to Joe
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for putt Joe Fienni for putting uson the creative executive producer of the show,
Joseph are damage Control. What justhappened? Frank? Wait, I'm
he called him Joseph arm Frank.Frank went into dude, what are you
(46:50):
doing? He went into like piratemode. That surprised if he even keeps
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Thanks Frank, Great Frank's at theBukack Lounge. Heo he a roll.
All right, Frank, what doyou got nothing? Nothing? Oh
(48:24):
fair enough, same here, HappyThanksgiving to everybody. Appreciate you guys there,
it is definitely Wash your ass andsay good night Bobby, Good night Bobby,
The owner of the most educated professionalthe professor might call him. We call
the show, and I mean,folks, where's the line. It's time
for the Undisputed Podcast with Fish.Welcome back to the critically acclaimed on the
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podcast. A part of the JoeFeenie creative control control Work. Yeah,
that's a good DJ. But Scottsand that's Robert Redford below me. Robert,
Yeah, that's me. Sundance Kid. Is that who you were?
The Sundance Kid? The Sundance kidhe was wasn't Yeah, he was a
(00:46):
Sundance Wow, that's going way back. Yeah. Thanksgiving show, Ah it
is. It's the Gobbledy Googer show. We should we were all supposed to
dressed as the comedy booger that was. I did not get that memo?
Uh or text? Or was that? The biggest letdown in pro wrestling was
(01:11):
the Goblin? Think? Yeah,well either him or I mean in w
W gobbledy, but uh, Ithink in all of wrestling you definitely have
given him a run for his gobbledinggooger money is uh the shop mister oh
(01:34):
free Oven. Sure, he's definitelygonna be up there. Tigger. Yeah,
A part of Destroy You you,uh you heard Undertaker's thoughts when he
thought he was going to be likeegg Man or whatever. Did you hear
(01:55):
him tell that story original so becausehe was, well, no, he
thought he thought it because I mean, obviously it's not my story to tell
because I'm not the Undertaker. Butsorry, kfe prank Jesus Christ. But
he, uh, he went toVince's house, had the interview whatever they
(02:17):
met for I think a couple ofhours. They sat and talked and he
left didn't hear anything. And that'sabout the time where they started working that
eggs, that giant egg story ofthe and that was and so but so
Undertaker thought, Jesus Christ, I'mgonna end up being like egg Man or
(02:38):
something. Yeah, and he waslike what am I doing? What did
I do? And that's and beforethey even did that, Vince called and
was like, you know, it'sthe Undertaker there, and Undertaker figured out
what we were talking what he wassupposed Yes, the Undertaker, but obviously
he tells it a lot better becausehe was there. That's his story.
(02:59):
Yeah, yeah, so, butyeah, it was should tell it.
Maybe maybe maybe Mark was that closeto becoming the Gobbly Cooker. I mean,
that would have been really a funnyreference at this point, you know,
if he went on to have thesame Undertaker career and the streak and
(03:22):
all that stuff, but he hada brief stop that's the gobbled Cooker or
ann. Yeah, I think it'stoo. I think it's amazing too that
that that Undertaker character literally was likethe brainchild of Vince, Like he had
what the fuck is squeaking? Doyou have a cat with you? Yeah,
(03:42):
that's a KITT's but that was weadopted the little little little kid.
Is it a kitten? It's akitten. If if he gets close enough
to me, I'll get him oncamera. Thank you. I think I'm
still I'm still scarred from that.So yeah, that'll just be for when
(04:06):
moves as well. Yeah good,I'm still trying to work through that one
in therapy. But so what dowe want to what do we want to
talk about? It's not ye.You know, there was something I saw
the NXT ring announcer she Alicia,she posted something about it was her and
(04:38):
Cody Rhodes. I didn't see thevideo, but she was just hearkening back
to like her childhood when her grandmotheror her mother used to take her to
I don't remember the name of thearena, but it was to see Dusty
Nice. And then here she isall these years later, and like she
(04:58):
was a musician and stuff, likeshe had, you know, a career
and everything, but still was thislike little girl wrestling fan and back in
the days of the American Dream.And you know, now she's in the
ring interviewing Cody and then different,you know Cody, like a different like
(05:20):
a Cody that's way more like hisfather these days because of the opportunities that
he's getting and you know, createdfor himself very much in the spirit of
you know, Dusty. Dusty wasalways considered like kind of a kind of
an outlaw, like kind of goout and do it his way. And
(05:46):
yeah, I just thought it wasreally cool, kind of came together.
She and I appreciated it too.She was She was the one that when
I was with n XT and wewere in Pennsylvania and my uncle Bill was
was at the show. She announcedmy uncle Bill to the crowd and oh
(06:11):
mentioned how he was. Yeah,I have it on video on my phone
somewhere. I'll send it to you. You know. I mentioned how he
was created. Korean War uh ohand uh, you know, he got
to stand up and I went overto him in the crowd and the fans,
like the crowds literally started chaining.It's awesome, that's awesome. Yeah,
(06:35):
it was really it was really reallykind of a kind of cool moment,
and it was nice to be ableto give him that. Yeah,
that's awesome. Yeah, that's that'sthat's good stuff. Speaking of Cody,
he's got a big big thing comingup this weekend Survivor series. Oh yeah,
he is on the war Games.It's on the poster. Yeah,
(07:01):
it's his face with paint on it. Yep. Not like the Ultimate Warrior
either. No, it's like ait's like warp, not war paint,
camouflage paint like M M. Camoand then like the American flag, right
yeah, I think so. Yeah, but yeah, they got the the
big big war Games happened in thisweek. Yeah, so this will be
(07:25):
the Is this the first time thewar Games? No? Second? Right,
that's on the main roster. Yeah, because last year it was Bloodline,
Bloodline with Sammy and I don't rememberwho, Frank, Kevin Steen,
(07:45):
Eric Owens hang on Frank's Frank's thinking, I can smell well anyway, anyway,
who's in it this year? Like, so, Cody, I'm gonna
say l a night. No,No, No, Cody, Jay Usa,
(08:09):
Yes, Sammy Jay, Sammy Zayyuh No, he's not Jesus,
he's Frank. You're killing me.So Cody's team is Cody, Seth Rollins
jays, I'm gonna get this cat. Thanks for helping Frank. Yeah,
(08:39):
hang on, I got I got, I got hold music for us.
Excuse me, thank you for callingthe Undisputed Podcast. Your call is very
important to us. Well answer assoon as pop nothing there we go.
(09:07):
No, we can hear you.Where'd you go? We got only one
ear words? That's weird. Ican't hear you if I had the other
one now sorry, Cody Jacobs,Jay, Seth, Seth Rollins, Sammy's
saying, and they're they're up againstWow, that's forget. No, no,
(09:33):
no, I'm gonna I'm gonna onethat was announced last night is coming
because Bobby wasn't watching last night,so we'll drop that. And they're taking
on uh judgment, thank you,and with Drew McIntire. Ah, So
Drew is there's been a lot ofchatter about Drew's heel turn, so he's
(09:54):
he's not part of Judgment Day.He doesn't like them, but he he
doesn't like is it Jay that hehasn't? So you gotta beat for jus
because the bloodline, you know,ran rough shot over pretty much fucking everybody.
So and it was Roman that beatYeah for the title. So Jay
(10:20):
helped in that and it was partof Yes, he might have I think
he was just kinda it was likeha ha, and Drew's holding a grudge.
And then last night because they neededa fifth member because Judgment Day and
Drew that's five. So last nightCody dropped a bomb on everybody. At
(10:41):
the end of Raw. Their fifthmember be Randy Orton with a little easter
egg during the announcement because if youpaid attention to jay Usha's face, he
was like shit because the last timewe saw Randy Orton, Randy was with
(11:03):
Matt Riddle and the USOS beat themfor the undisputed tag titles. Oh and
I'm pretty sure Jay and Jimmy werethe reason the reason in air quotes that
Randy's been gone all this time?How'd I do Frank that good stuff that
I was? I was paying attention, by the way, never could I
(11:28):
ever recite anything like that if itwas school related? Continue on, But
he can do it here, that'sthe important part. Yes. So last
year's Survivor series was the Bloodline Romanj Jimmy Solo and Sammy and they took
on the Brawling Brouge Seamus Ridge,Holland Butch, Drew McIntyre and Kevin Owens.
(11:50):
Ah. Yes, yes, yes, yes that I did not just
know. I had to use theGoogle machine. And the year before was
Kyle's last Badge or war Games KyleO'Reilly? No, the last war games
(12:11):
that Kyle was in we all did? I thought he did? He wrestle.
There was a war games he wrestled. I want to do so with
Johnny guard get that, I thinkso. I don't think so. I
think that the only war games Kylewrestled him was. That's the undus he
(12:35):
talks amongst yourself. We're going toresearch that one. Do want to put
the whole music back on? FrankWell, I mean, you know most
podcasts do to research first before theshow. They also probably come up with
what they're going to talk about first, So, yeah, who's that?
And then listen Even when we actuallyhave formats do we really stick to him
(12:58):
or do we try to swerve allover the fucking road and get to where
we're going? Shane, we SwearveStrickling, Yes, I have something.
Yes, I don't know. Idon't know. He was never in Award
Games. Who's that, Shane SwearveStrickland. Oh okay, he could end
(13:22):
up being in the Blood and Guns. That's true, which is kind of
a god damn really well, Yawn, I stay it correct. It was.
It was the Black and Gold thosearg l A Knight, Pete Dunn
and Champa. Yeah, I toldyou what did I see? But I
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sworn? Oh? Whatever? Isit probably odd that La Knight doesn't have
a match at Survivor Series. Yeah, but war Games is a big undertaking.
It ties up a lot of peoplea lot of time. They're going
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to give it. Oh, Ithink it's the expectation is that even some
of the top guys are going totake a seat on the bench for that
paper view or live event or PMpremium live events. There's two because they
(14:28):
got a woman's War Games too.M hm, let me guess, Becky
Lynch. Yeah, uh yeah,but that they're on the same team,
(14:50):
right, Yeah, And then theygot Eo Kyrie saying damage control maybe yeah,
I think so against Becky, Charlotte, Bianca and I don't know,
(15:16):
hang on, it's Bianca, Charlotte, Shatzi, Becky first, damage control
and carry sane. Okay. Wealso wait a minute, there's only four
five matches bar Ye got thrown amidge and an ascobar. That's you know,
(15:41):
I'm all for Carlito getting getting anothershot, and then you got Ria
Ripley and Zoe Stark. Hmm.I want to watch Quitcher, although I
may I think we are. I'llwatched for already waring to come out.
(16:02):
I'll watch that. What's the thoughtprocess behind the war games and what's your
what's your meatality going into it?I mean, we had we had time
to work on things. I thinkafter doing the first one. The first
one was kind of like, Idon't I liked the first one. We
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did for sure, but after thatwe kind of had a blueprint. At
least. The toughest part was justkind of wrangling all the ideas because the
narrowing down process is what it is, and in the beginning, you know,
(16:48):
every like the ideas are just kindof scattered all over the place.
So whose idea was it to getyour arm cut on the cage? To
get my arm cut, didn't youtell your bicet or my tricep severed?
(17:10):
That was somebody in creative. Wow, she's real creative. Yeah, that
you know. And now I thinkI do have a torn bicep, which
is wonderful. But I did thaton my own. I did that training
(17:30):
with Liam Harrison and Andy Harrison atwhat is what is? Uh? What
is? Malachi's Jim called the Somethingof the Dark. It's not the House
(17:52):
of Black, No, No,it's Something against the Dark Guards. But
but we both have a fondness formoy Tai and Liam the hitman. Harrison
and his cousin Andy like two ofthe biggest Muay Thai officionados in the UK.
(18:17):
They came over. I had agreat experience with all of it.
Just I'm pretty sure I tore mybicet, so it wasn't fun. Shit
happens, I guess. Yeah.Yeah, this, this, my friends,
is why I sit on the couch. Yeah, I wish I did
(18:37):
that day. So back to theWar Games, how early in the match
did you do did you do it? You know you did it? And
I knew I did something. Iknew I did something. I didn't know
what it was. It was probablyabout ten minutes in for me. I
think I was the second one inand I think it was about ten minutes.
(19:00):
I was the second one on ourteam, I believe, And it
was about ten minutes into me comingin and I knew, like because there
was blood, so I knew therewas something and then I thought like,
okay, I'm believing it is whatit is. They had to tape me
(19:22):
a little bit, which they did, and then I just remember feeling it,
never really feeling quite normal, likenormally when you have something that feels
like, oh that's that's more thanjust a thing. Sometimes that goes away
(19:49):
and then you're like, oh no, I'm good, I'm okay, I'm
okay. And that never happened.So I knew there was there was something,
you know, rotten in Denmark,but I didn't know what it was
until we got to the back afterwards. In a Tara, one of the
medical staff at the PC, shewas looking cleaning it out, cleaning out
(20:12):
to cut my elbow, and shewas where she was looking, She's like,
I should see tendon and I don'tI see bone so that was when
we kind of knew, like becauseit didn't roll up, so I didn't
know. I didn't think like Itore it. But what had happened was
(20:37):
whatever piece of the cage cut myelbow, it also severed like seventy five
percent of the tendon from so itwas just holding on by a thread.
And they had to go in andclean it out anyway, so to make
sure that, you know, therewas no contaminants or infection or anything.
(20:57):
And so they read attached it whilethey were in there, which was,
you know, that was the leastthey can do. Yeah, the fun
that's nice. A yeah, that'syeah. And then the recovery I mistakenly
heard six weeks. I was like, wow, that's crazy. It was
(21:19):
sixteen weeks. A little oversight,a little overside. Yeah, well yeah,
jesus yeah. And in that downtime, that's when the Undisputed Era fell
apart. And I then went toHelena Handbag I called inside job. I
(21:48):
think a cabotage. I think ofsabotage site. You're telling me that Bobby
sacrificed this so that the Undisputed Erawould fall apart. I think somebody purposely
had the little sharp pieces of thecage. I think it was Tony Khan.
(22:17):
I think it was no probably Jones. No, I mean, with
the conspiracy theory that Frank's going with, I think it might have been Alex
Jones that had something to do withit. He's a big conspiracy theory guy.
Is that anyway, Frank? Doyou think the Earth is flat?
(22:41):
Too? No? Okay, that'sjust that's just top didn you guys hear
The Rock on Joe Rogan? Ihave not had a chance to listen to
the episode, You guys, Ilistened to I think all of it or
part of it. I don't thinkI listened to all of it and listened
(23:02):
to part of it. You gotto follow up, Frank, what the
fuck asked a question? Yeah?I think at certain parts Joe kind of
catches It's I kind of got theimpression he was trying to get the Rock
to say something you want to sayor I don't know, it just seemed
(23:26):
a little awkward at that times.Are you telling me that Joe was trying
to get the Rock to admit thatthe steroids there was that and the political
stuff too. I don't think theRock Dwayne Johnson is as well versed the
political game as you may think heis, and when you have somebody like
Joe Rogan who is hip to thatkind of stuff, I kind of think
(23:48):
he was trying to, you know, take deliveries if you will. Yeah,
I mean I think, you know, it's a tough h it's a
tough spot to be in the rock, as visible as he is and as
big of an entity as he is. Like, yeah, part of that
(24:12):
is he's supposed to be up tospeed on everything, but I mean,
there's only so many hours in aday, and when you have that much
money and everything, like shit,you're entitled. I'm sure you've worked pretty
damn hard to get there, soyou're entitled to spend a good portion of
your time doing things you enjoy doing. The man obviously likes to work out.
(24:36):
I'm pretty sure he spends not becauseyou have to spend countless hours to
look like that, but I'm sayingmore because I just think the man fucking
enjoys it, like it's just ashappy place. So yeah, I mean,
I don't know. He probably istrying to be more political up to
(25:02):
speed than he actually wants to be. I mean, it's kind of the
way it goes. I mean,I know, I know Joe is pretty
set in his beliefs and stuff likethat too, And I'm sure, I'm
sure The Rock and Joe politically don'tsee eye to eye, but I but
I also feel like the Rock issmart enough not to do that to himself.
(25:27):
Yeah, you know, he's he'swell trained in media relations. Yeah
yeah, not that, not thathe has someone training him, but I'm
sure he has people. And healso has been doing this for quite some
time. And he's not a stupidhuman. He knows. I'm not going
down that fucking path like we're notdoing that. Yeah. Yeah, well
(25:48):
I will say this, and Ionly watched it once, but there was
something Chill Sun was getting into andchill you know, he'll be a little
bit of a lightning ro what's that? Yes, he was commenting on Uh.
(26:11):
It seemed as if he was claimingthat both Joe and The Rock were
being a little bit fake with eachother. Really, yeah, that was,
And now that's Jelle Son's sake,obviously, it's not mine, you
know, I'm just I'm just recyclingwhat I heard. I'm interested to hear
(26:37):
because I listened to Jail too.I'm interested to hear what he has to
say on his next couple podcasts,because this was just a clip. I
don't think he's that far off inthat. Now. I think about some
of the guys I've seen of JoeRogan that, yeah, there there could
(27:00):
be some truth that he's saying thatwith not just a rock but other people
he's had on Well, I mean, I'm gonna say this, at this
point, it's safe to assume andalmost safe to say. Things are never
(27:22):
quite what they seem to be.And that's across the board. Mm hm.
I mean that goes for the Presidentof the United States, especially right
now, all the way to everycelebrity, every pro wrestler, every pro
athlete, every boxing match, everylike nothing is ever as clear cut and
(27:49):
simple as people think it is.Like there's just there's big money to be
made or lost, and whenever thatis introduced to the formula, things have
an ability to get weird, andgenerally they are get weird. Like the
(28:11):
Bukack Lounge weird, that gets weird. That does get weird, Yeah,
yeah, it does, especially onSaturday nights. Yeah, after dark.
Why would you go to the BukkakiLounge during the day then is wrong with
you? They have a good lunchbox lunch you guys remember to Carlos?
(28:36):
Yeah? Did they really really somethinglike that? They definitely had lunch.
There were some fucking scumbags in Albanythat definitely go to the Carlos lunch there.
What is it yet? It's gonnabe Yesterday's too, right? Is
that what they're calling it? Frank? Yes, they're bringing it back.
So it's going back to yesterday's toto yesterday two not the number, Frank,
(29:03):
t O isn't to just call itTuesdays? I died? You'd have
to ask them. Good point.Yeah, they didn't come to me when
they were like, hey, whatshould we call it? Because I was
like September's was dope when Mike Tysonowned it. I guess mm hmmm years
and years and years ago. Mmhmmm. Yeah, you're doing research,
(29:27):
Frank, I am okay, Andwhat something we want to talk about?
You shared the class? No?No, I like that. You looked
at your phone and like double checkbecause clearly I was going over last week's
best bets. Oh shit, funk, I gotta figure out my picks this
(29:48):
week? Ship fuck. So briefly, recap as we brought it up.
Uh, I always wanted to justjust out of curiosity. How would you
long winded? How would you longwindedly recap as opposed to briefly recap.
I go the whole with the year, league records and all that stuff.
(30:11):
I believe, break it down bypercentages. We do pretty the funk you're
doing math? Get out of hereanyway. Records. I was one and
two, you were two and oneand they got blow it with over three?
Did you said it was one andtwo or two and one? You
(30:33):
were two and one? I wasone and two. I lost the Bill's
Jets game. Didn't you at leastwin on the bye team? Uh?
Good? How'd I do on thegame that didn't happen? Yeah? H
(30:56):
ship. Yeah. This week isgonna be weird, weird waggy stuff,
weird waggy stuff because Thanksgiving well,it's just it's really weird that I mean,
because first of all, they gotThanksgiving, there's a game on Friday,
they're doing a Black Friday. That'sthat's weird, which is odd.
And then Sunday plus NFL, likelast night was Monday Night Football too,
(31:21):
So it's like bottom bottom. Butdude, so out the year you are
twenty and eight? Who is you? You? Me? Yes, I
am nineteen and nine and the guybelow me is seventeen nine and one below
(31:45):
you? Hey now hey now betterinterviewer Howard Sterner, Joe Rogan, Howard
Stern, Yeah, yep, absolutelya guy that has elevated his game.
Uh evolution. Who Yes, it'sgrown up. He's grown up a lot
(32:14):
his He had barber last week weekbefore, Yeah, and like two weeks
ago, and she asked, sheasked to be on the show. Of
course she did. It's crazy though, because there's there's it's he's getting a
lot of these guests that are comingon a show now that you would never
really like the old Stern, Likewhen he was on terrestrial radio. Nobody
(32:35):
they were was not going no,I mean, although it was crazy because
like when he was still on commercialradio, is when he had seen on,
which I thought was kind of cool. Vince on he had Stephanie on
picture, Yeah, yes he had. It was part of the they all
(32:57):
fit together, Ben Stephanie McMahon goodchair. Yeah. Two of them run
a carnival show and the other oneshould be on a carnival show. So
it actually is he's part of thewhaa So one of the whack pack member
is local. Jeff Drunk. Jeffto Drunk is local? Yeah? Really
(33:21):
yeah, no, ship, Ido this for facts. I can tell
you the story we're done that Ican't reveal, like fair enough. I
like how I said that, likeI was first of all, like I
was fully surprised, and then secondof all, like I was excited about
it because there's something we should beproud of. There we go. We
(33:42):
got Jeff to Drunk out of Altamontand Sarah Toga was just named the drunkest
city in America? Was it really? Yeah? At your backyard mine?
What you was? Your health?Sta? I well, I mean I
lived there mostly to me before leavingto move Florida, Florida. I like
(34:06):
how you asked him that question,Like you didn't know where Bobby was from.
We went to high school together fromright, you went to college?
Yeah, travel the football team.I thought, essoy, come on,
(34:29):
come on, Frank, but no, I listen. And it's not to
take anything away from Rogan's uh interviewing, although Rogan's interviewing is a lot more
conversation than it, Like Howard islike a it's conversational but gets a lot
of ship out of people that youwould not expect people to just kind of
(34:50):
open up and say mm hmmm,Like I think Howard starn could get to
the heart of the rock and thesteroids. That's just me. I don't
you would do it in a waywhere the Robert answer the question and we
wouldn't even know he's answered the question. Yeah, like, oh shit,
oh I answered the question. Yeah, damn it. His His interview with
(35:15):
Springsteen was phenomenal, was it really? I'm not saying Bruce Springsteen fan.
I'm not a fan of Bruce Springsteen'smusic either his music I don't know I
personally whatever, But to listen tothe way that those two talked, and
just to listen to how open Springsteenwas to talk about the process that he
(35:37):
went through with writing music, learningto play guitar and all that ship.
I mean, music is a isa huge passion of mine anyway, so
learning and listening about that stuff iskind of cool because I can't sing or
write music or play an instrument,which is why why I play other people's
music and I don't play Okay,yeah, I know you are, because
(36:05):
I too, am eight years old, Frank so woa alright, so Survivor
series. That's Saturday. Yeah,they're not doing P L. E.
S or or A W's. They'renot doing Sundays anymore, are they.
(36:27):
Everybody does Saturdays. Everybody does iton Saturday. Yeah. I think it's
a smart maneuver. If you wantto get a full audience, absolutely produce
Saturday night or Saturday. Yeah,especially if you're gonna put on a seven
hour show, Like I don't wantto be up till two in the morning
on a Sunday night, all right, that's just me. There was there
(36:50):
was wrestled manias that start at seveno'clock and they usually wouldn't get twelve thirty.
They're late. Yeah, they ranlong Holy ship then don't want to
go to bed, and yeah,there's definitely a suite spot for those I
don't think. I think the takeoverswere actually really well well done in that
(37:14):
way, like kept two and ahalf three hours top who always. I
think that added to it, youknow, because technically those are not the
times to like build anything. You'rethere, these are the blowoffs. Yeah,
you've already gotten the building, youalready got in the building. Yeah,
(37:34):
blow it off then maybe leave aleave a unanswered question at the very
end for one thing to build tothe next one. But beyond that,
you know what I best anymore?I don't think see that's where I like
about the whole JF the Devil deal. It just it's got that who shot
(37:57):
Jr? Type? That's why Ilove. That's cool. I I think
it's a slippery slope though too.Really be careful not to like go too
long with it, exactly right,Like that's you know, where your skill
as a booker comes in is knowingwhen to pull that trigger because if you
(38:22):
pull it too early, you didn'tget enough juice from the squeeze. And
if you pull it too late,you run the risk of losing the crowd.
One of that. That's kind oflike the Black Scorpion deal back in
the day. It went on solong. Don't make cared that it was
(38:45):
Rick Flair. After a while itwas like, well, and it was
the Shockmaster voice too. Yeah,it was only Anderson answering machine boys.
But the one thing I heard too, uh with the Devil thing, because
I was spending some time listening toBusted Open, and they you know,
(39:07):
uh, the pros on the showsaid the payoff and the reveal have to
be done executed. Well, yes, well, you know, the reveal
needs to be done well and thepayoff to it needs to be worth the
ship that's got it. Yeah,I mean, you don't want to let
the air out of the balloon there, right, And it's it's a good
(39:28):
way to take your fans and reallyjust have them lose faith in you more
than because you're like, really,I spent all that time and I invested
my my emotions in that and mycare and it was it was me like
you know, going full circle.It's gobbled googer. It could be No,
(39:49):
no, that's a comparison, yeah, gobbledy googer. Yeah yeah,
because that egg was something big andyeah, some dumb fucking a chick and
cost them. Yeah. Well,I'm genuinely excited to see how with how
this turns out, especially when theydid the think copies ago when they beat
up they claimed that good stuff.I think. I mean, I don't
(40:15):
and it's not a knock. Ijust don't spend a lot of time watching
a w but I do like whatthey're doing. I do like mjf's work,
Like I think he is He's definitelytalented. Yeah, there's no question
about that. I mean, there'sa case that could be made for him
(40:36):
and Osprey being like the two guyswith the most momentum in the industry outside
of I mean, he could throwl a Night into there too, as
far as just having like the band'sapproval without the company. Not that the
(41:00):
company isn't behind the three people Ijust mentioned, but I'm saying that fans
would be behind them company you're not. You can kind of throw Cody in
there too, Yeah, a littlebit. Jay. So if we can
(41:22):
get Jada, we could get ridof the yeat from Jay. That would
be fun. Yet it's Jay's whatbasically he says, yey, like what
happened there? I don't what arewe doing? Stop it? We don't
need that. But yeah, soany who? Any who? Should we
(41:46):
get to Bobby's best bets? Franklin, Yes, I'm getting tired, let's
do it. Quick side note,real, real, real, quick side
note before we get into Bobby's bestbets? Mm hmm, best side son,
Thanksgiving? Just one swo potatoes friends, Yeah, I gotta go with
(42:07):
Okay, I'm just gonna say pumpkinpie or sweet I mean if we go
well, okay, well the sweetpotatoes is mine as well. Okay,
there potatoes fair enough. I ama I'm a stuffing guy. Love stuff,
the castle roll, sweet potato.What you know what? Last year
(42:29):
I made a zucchini because we're vegan. I made and it was good.
It was god damn good. Idon't know what I'll do this year.
I might not be Was there azoom? We did you just make zucchini?
Or was it was not zucchini?It was a squash, a stuff
squash. Oh okay, stuff squash, but no no meat. No,
(42:55):
I don't remember what I stuffed itwith. But it was good. Goal.
I gotta look it up. Frank, what the fuck? I gotta
look it up again. We'll see, We'll see, we'll see, we'll
see. I was like, we'revegan. There was no meat. What's
your stuff? It with gobbol?Thank you? It's just like Franks,
(43:20):
I just wanted to say it.It was cool when they said it on
the Sopranos. I wanted to sayit too. And know it's funny.
I I don't think I've ever hadit. I don't think that's that funny.
I didn't find it all that funny. Let's just let's face it,
frank just like saying the word gobble, and when give it a chance.
(43:42):
When given the chance, he wantsto say, Joel too, I love
Yeah, I'm sure you do.All right, say that kind of thing.
There you go, which kind ofthing that he likes, bra Joel,
Yes, it's an Italian dish.We're good. And yeah I'm going.
(44:05):
I'm going with stuffing, and thereyou go, and everybody, something's
definitely never bad. I mean,I'm not mad at stuffing. I mean
I love a home, like agood homemade stuffing. I'll take stovetop though
if I have to, but Idon't want to. So there you go.
Happy Thanksgiving. Fuckers. Give usa let's do picks. Okay,
(44:27):
all right, who first? Dassgoes first? And see you had the
winning record that way, all right? Uh, let's see, I'm taking
Cowboys over Commanders, give me Lionsover the Packers. Those are two Thursday
games. And then I'm taking theGiants over the Patriots, which by the
(44:52):
way, is just gonna be ashitty, shitty game on Sunday. Okay,
Franklin, I'm gonna go Houston theRams and let's ride with the Denver
Broncos. Hm hmm, that's allright. I'm gonna go with the Nuggets,
(45:19):
the Niners, and the let's gowith the Chiefs. You know the
Nuggets played basketball, right, yeah, okay, so the Denver Broncos,
ah bolts, y'all going with theBroncos over the Browns. Okay, alright,
(45:40):
alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, all right,
okay, lock of it, Okay, alright, boys and girls.
Yeah, I apologize for the shortnessof tonight, but we're coming back next
(46:06):
week bigger and better and aver becausenow we've got some sponsors. We got
some advertising folks out there who won'thear us do what we do. Okay,
that's that. Are you in adifferent show than I am? Yeah?
I don't maybe, but listen,once again, thank you to Joe
(46:27):
for putt Joe Fienni for putting uson the creative executive producer of the show,
Joseph are damage Control. What justhappened? Frank? Wait, I'm
he called him Joseph arm Frank.Frank went into dude, what are you
(46:50):
doing? He went into like piratemode. That surprised if he even keeps
us on after this. Yeah,by the way, how about hitting up
Bobbyfish Apparel dot com. We gotChristmas on the horizon. The holidays are
coming, Hanukkah, Kwanza, allof that is coming. It's one by
(47:14):
all means Bobby Fish Apparel dot com. Get your good school clothes there,
take care of the kids for Santa. Do some shopping at Bobbyfish apparel dot
com. Also, there's him torate the podcast. Wherever you listen to
it. Give us a five starrating, because you know you love Even
if you don't like the podcast,you're listening to the podcast. Yeah,
(47:37):
and that's how it grows. Yeah, give us good reviews. If you
give us shty reviews, you're nothelping. No knock that ship. If
you're giving us bad reviews, you'repart of the problem. Be part of
the solution. Yeah, five starreviews. We got a YouTube channel.
I don't know what the fuck itis, though it's it's on you.
(48:00):
It is. Just look for theUndisputed Podcast with Bobby Fish and you'll find
it. W slash Bobby Fish.We're not checked that. We're fucking everywhere.
Go look at some of our ship. Listen to our ship. Gardener.
Thanks Frank, Great Frank's at theBukack Lounge. Heo he a roll.
All right, Frank, what doyou got nothing? Nothing? Oh
(48:24):
fair enough, same here, HappyThanksgiving to everybody. Appreciate you guys there,
it is definitely Wash your ass andsay good night Bobby, Good night Bobby,
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