June 6, 2024 • 34 mins
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This week on The Undisputed Podcast we'll go over what happened with Bobby at MLW's "Battle Riot" in Atlanta. We also recap what happened on our last show when we were live in Albany NY for WWE Smackdown. There's talk about the AJ Styles "retirement" and some chatter about the Kyle O'Reilly/Will Ospreay match.
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This week on The Undisputed Podcast we'll go over what happened with Bobby at MLW's "Battle Riot" in Atlanta. We also recap what happened on our last show when we were live in Albany NY for WWE Smackdown. There's talk about the AJ Styles "retirement" and some chatter about the Kyle O'Reilly/Will Ospreay match.
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(00:01):
The most educated professional Professor show.And I mean, folks, where's the
line for the undisc podcast? ByFish? We're back on the podcast.
AKA but Bongo Fiesta. That's thenew nickname. I want to just put
(00:27):
a little page in there, justto make you know. I always thought
it was the Demi pod. ApparentlyI've been way off base on that one.
I wanted to keep everybody on thetoes tonight. Great, then you
did that. I'm not sure theyneed the most that. I'm not mistaken.
We're talking Howard Stern. You justcopyrighted and I'm screwed down. Thanks,
(00:54):
Well, it was all Frank forany there's two hours in the last
day. By the way, Ithrew three hours in the last name.
Three hours y f E A roh. So when the lasses come,
I'll make sure they can get myname built right. I'm want no Confucius.
(01:17):
You know Confucius, Yes, confuthe Chinese philosopher. Yeah, good
man, good man, good wholesomeman, hulk, maniac card carry member.
Remember sorry, was definitely a wholecomaniac. Confucius says, say your
prayers, eat your vitamins, andlift your blue weight. Yes, your
(01:44):
little three I had that I hadthose of course you did. You knew
exactly what I was talking about.Yes, creak me if I'm wrong.
Those castid that came with it too? What? Yeah, where he told
just smoke weed? And I don'tremember that part that if I did not
(02:06):
listen to it backwards, So II I listened to it backwards. What
was on the tape? Uh?If you listen to it backwards, he
told you to smoke weed? Right? Are you doing shots? Yeah?
I think Wait? What? Hm? I don't know, thanks, huh,
(02:34):
I don't remember what was on thetape? Was it music? Was
it like real American and ship right? Was it? Or was it him
telling you how to work? Itwas his workout, our team he talked,
I think so, and you couldfollow along with the post that came
with it. Mhmm, I don'tknow. That sounds off the walls.
(03:00):
Yeah, you know what I didfind funny and it's it. It just
popped back up. I think eitheron my Instagram or my TikTok feed.
Was the commercial for that workout,the kids workout set, And it was
Paul Orndorf that did the commercial,not Hulk Hogan. Really only makes sense.
They didn't want to pay Hogan.They don't want to pay them for
(03:23):
the for the for the appearance,so they had Orndwarf. It was great.
He came busting through the wall likethe kool Aid man. Frank,
you know, I meant to tellyou, I think you'll enjoy Did you
see the Dark Side of the RingHarley Race yet? I have not seen
that one should watch it? Areyou in it? I am not,
(03:46):
but I did enjoy it. Oh, I do want to see. There's
a Dark Side of the Ring that'sactually produced by the Rocks Company. I
think it's called the Debt the wCW. Yeah that Who Killed? Who
Killed? WCW? Oh okay isthat out now? It comes out tonight
(04:09):
as we're recording Tuesday night, andthey interview everybody. I don't think the
w w E documentary did it likethis where they interviewed all parties. I
think fitz Russo's in this one too. So there's a lot of finger pointing.
There are a lot of a lotof things I don't think we've seen
before. So I saw uh DDPhad tweeted that out a little like just
(04:33):
literally just the it was like thetitle that was it. And then I
saw on the Rocks Instagram. Uhin Times Square it was like it was
on there down in Times Square aswell. Yeah. I think the only
person not interviewed was Ric Flair.I don't know why he was not.
He had some grumblines about this too. He was not interviewed for this.
(04:54):
I don't think who killed w CW? Who killed Rick Flair? Oh,
Bearded Beard will he's still He's alive. Mm hmm. Yeah, it's gonna
be on Vice. It's on ViceTV too. It's not hate Vice Miami
(05:15):
truly one of the greatest shows ofthe eighties. Yeah, Crockett and Tubs
were pretty bad ass. I meanthe guest stars are that TV shows that
Who's the Glenn Fry of Vices?What Advice and Men? Yes? So,
(05:36):
uh, you flew to Albany earlySaturday morning MLW there, Yeah,
I flew into Albany, uh Saturday, no Friday night. I flew out
(05:57):
of Albany early Sunday morning into Atlantaand then to MLW where we had the
Battle Riot pay per view. I'vewrestled early. I actually was the first
(06:23):
match and then the last match becausethe Battle Riot was last and I wrestled
the opener against that's really shitty ofme. Name was it very out?
(06:47):
No? No, and he wasgood too, but a young guy from
Atlanta, I think from Atlanta,or at least wrestle some in Atlanta.
I'm a shitty human being. Wellthat was out saying yeah, yeah,
(07:11):
yeah, Well if anybody watched orlistened to this show, probably yeah.
So you had some guests there,Mark Hendry and Taylong made some special guest
appearances. And he hasn't that theTayloran fall asleep on the stage? Who
(07:33):
tay Long? Oh? I didn'tsee my thoughts. They tweeted at the
tay Long, God bless you,tay Long uh fell God bless you again.
Tay Long fell asleep on the stage. Thank you. I think that
was a picture that they caught himwhere it looked like he was. I
didn't see, but I would Iwould refrain from laughing because I'm capable of
(08:01):
such activity as well. You havedone that in this very show numerous times.
I probably at this point, Ithink in the match who it's against,
I could possibly you just never know. I'm a wild that could be
(08:24):
your new gimmick. I'm a sleepdeprived wild card that could be your new
gimmick, though you've be in themiddle of the match, just laid down
fall asleep. I'm not looking fora new gimmick, Frank, you think
his new gimmick should what do wecall him? The narcoleptic? Yeah,
(08:45):
from across ranch, from the BukkakeLounge. Yes, on the via the
double cross in the corner. Takea quick snooze on the bottom turn buckle,
(09:07):
dude, I'll tell you what.So, watching the Harley Dark Side
just talked about a lot. Imean, I get the point that it
drove home the most. It wasjust that, like Harley Race was not
one to fuck with, Like wouldyou put him on the Mount rushmore of
(09:30):
guys in Mestling. I mean,I didn't know first hand, but I
had always heard that Harley was afairly rough customer. I know that the
way that he was taught the businessand the way that he came up was
you know, was that. Butit was said on that documentary, and
(09:58):
I've heard it said before that youknow Harley can handle himself. For one,
he could handle himself for sure,and two he was never far from
his pistol. So yeah, soI mean we're talking like just yeah,
just a different, different animal.But yeah, you know it was good
(10:24):
man, it was. It wasreally good. And having a little bit
of a history with Harley and Harleybeing an integral part of me getting over
to Japan and stuff which really openedup so much for me career wise.
(10:46):
Yeah, it was just cool tohear the you know, the some of
the inside stuff and then even tohear Trevor talk candidly. Oh and that
that leads me to another thing Ifound out over the weekend. So Harley
was a part of me getting pickedup by Noah. Noah is where I
(11:11):
think, you know, I creditlearning how to wrestle quite a bit there.
I am one of the guys thatI was very influenced by and was
an opponent of mine when I workedfor Noah was Kenta. And we've talked
about this on here. I thinkI've made the comparison before I Kenta,
(11:35):
you know, be in our generationsDynamite kid here, Yes, yes,
yes, yes, so MLW whenI believe it's in Tampa, it's the
opening round of the Opera Cup,and I'm going to be uh, I
(12:01):
wonder if I should be saying this, can I guess I don't have to
say anything. Well, I'm prettysure we've set the table. Sit down,
Frank, I guess sure, goahead. Is it Dynamite Nephew that
(12:24):
you'll be facing Dennis? Yeah?Is that what you would have guessed?
I was gonna go with special guestreferee. I'm trying not to fucking blow
anything that you may or may notsupposed to say right now. I just
(12:46):
don't know when the world questions,let me think about it. Let me
think about it, because the payper view was live, but I'm not
sure. I think yeah, youknow, I think we can say it.
(13:07):
All right. So I'm wrestling Kentain the first round of the Operation
oh wow, Yeah, which Ibelieve is gonna be in Tampa in June,
like this month, June of thismonth. Is that what you just
said in June? It's possibly youconfuse me with that. I'm like June
(13:31):
this month, next month, It'sgoing to be in June of July.
Yeah, in June next week.Yeah, So I'm very much looking forward
to that. Kenta and I havewrestled the numerous times in Noah, but
(13:56):
you know, very different circumstances.You know where Keente was like the Ace
o. Well, Marfuji was theace of the company, but Kente was
the ass kicker. I guess,I don't know, like, and he's
(14:16):
strongly his style, you know,strongly influenced what would become my style.
So to me, it's kind oflike, you know, the professor is
going to be wrestling his professor,teacher versus a student. Yeah, kind
(14:41):
of, I mean in a way, because there was I mean, he
didn't realize he was teaching me becauseI'm pretty sure I was older than him,
not even pretty sure, I knowI was, but I was he
was. I was younger in thebusiness than and the come up in Japan
is very different from here in theStates. You know. It's not like
(15:07):
indies and stuff. There's more ofan apprenticeship sort of scenario. Yeah,
so I'm regardless. I'm just I'mreally looking forward to this. Yeah,
you said it was in Tampa,right, Wait, I'm almost positive.
Yeah. Is it the one fromthe coliseum in Saint Petersburg. So yeah,
(15:31):
so that's July twelfth, That's whatI meant, June of next month.
Yeah, well you didn't say that. You didn't say June of next
month. It's blood and thunder twentytwenty four. I believe, Oh that's
not great Blood and Plunder. OhI've been pronounced Plunder Dusty Rhodes, Plunder.
(15:58):
Got to get that plunt there goingunder pay pay window. That was
a great name for the show.Flood and thunder Man zero. Yeah,
did really Riddle ended up winning theBattle Riot? Bitch? Yeah? Did
(16:21):
I see one of the guys fromCobra Kai? He was in there in
that? Yes? Who was thefat guy who tried to get the Cobra
Kai? He was terrible? Washis name? O? God, I
can't remember his name. He gotbeat up by I think at one point.
Well, yeah, he was theguy that got Ben then Terry Silver
(16:44):
paid for his apartments. Yeah,okay, talking about the Cobra Kai,
yes, is it? Yeah?Yeah, the the Netflix show, not
Cobra Kai from the actual movie.No, Cobra Kai, the show.
(17:07):
Right, So I can't I recognizedthe actor? Saw him? He's got
I think it's like three names,like three first names are his name,
and I'm sure he's using his regularlike his acting name. Can can you
(17:37):
do any looking right now? Paulwalter Hauser, Paul walter Hauser, right,
yeah, yeah, Paul Walter Hauser. He was on the show.
He was in the Battle Ryah,he's he wrestles a ton for Game Changer
(17:59):
too. Really Yeah yeah, Imean he was a sweet guy, like
a really really like genuinely nice humanbeing. Nice. Yeah, it was.
It was busy at the time becauseI was watching you on my phone
(18:22):
and I was watching the Yankee gameon TV. Yeah, I'm better than
the Yank not a baseball but inmost other things. Yeah, no,
I would. I would think probably, you know, except for baseball,
probably some other stuff. Yeah,so wrestling, Yeah, it was a
(18:42):
good weekend. It was uh,I mean, what did you guys think
of the of the of the Gangband? What's that you guys think of
the the Demi? What do Ithink of this demipod? I like the
(19:04):
Demi pod? No, not ours. The one that we did in it
was okay. I mean we hadhaving Seth turned around was a good guess
form. It was good to hearabout the Hall of Fame. We had
some Jabbroni's who were walking past andfelt the need to say their displeasures,
(19:26):
which we encountered. We rebuttled withoutthe same displeasures towards them. Yeah,
it was that was a fun backand forth? Yeah, I mean that
that part was fun in retro purpleshirt. Purple shirt was there? Yes,
purple purple main things interesting? Hedid we learned we have a head
(19:49):
of security' Allso yeah, yep foundthat out. Purple shirt guy didn't show
up in Atlanta Saturday, did he? Not that I'm aware of, But
anything's possible. I feel like ifhe was there, he would have made
him he made everyone aware that hewas there. He was, Yeah,
(20:11):
I would imagine he didn't. Hedidn't seem like the type of guy that
you know, didn't crave attention atall. Yeah, And I think if
we had just let that guy getan interview as he was walking by,
he probably wouldn't have been yelling andscreaming at us afterwards. Him or the
other guy, the one guy thatkept like the one that went to the
(20:37):
show, because the first thing outof his mouth was yo, let me
get an interview. Yeah, andyou said no, mmm oh was that
starting? Yeah? That set himoff was Bobby turned down, And that's
how it started. I know,he get rid of you. Yeah,
what intelligence could he possibly over thispodcast? He had no intelligence? I
(20:57):
feel like he wanted us to interviewhim. Maybe I don't know, or
he wanted to interview Bobby or Idon't. We don't know who. We
haven't even met you, and wedon't interview people. I mean, sometimes
(21:18):
called you the Howards and our interviews, but interviews. But that's what's at
the point. You have called himthe Howard staring a podcast of wrestling and
interviews, and I think the peopleI think I'd be more of the Robin
Quivers. Okay, I don't knowwhy, but all right, I was
(21:42):
gonna say something that I forgot,son of a bitch. It's he's one
of those guys that Bobby speaks ofall the time, not being his self
importance and his self awareness, andhe has none because he thinks that everything
should revolve around that guy because he'sthe main character in the movie. So
that guy wanted to be a doucheand yell and scream about shit because he's
(22:06):
self important. He may listen,he probably listens to this show. We're
still talking about the guy that wentinto Yes, our fan, our one
fan. Well, we chase themoff. I think I think he was
(22:30):
running late anyway, so he kindof had to get in there. Go
get a seat. I think wedo it next time. If there's the
next time, we do it moreas a pre show, a pregame pre
show. Well, that way we'llprobably more access to the guys working to
show that kind of stuff, kindof like the same way they do when
(22:51):
they have their ples. They havea pre show and guys come out and
talk and all that stuff. Speakingof SmackDown here in Albany where we did
the podcast, did you see anyof the show we did? We watched
the very ending where Cody and Sethor that's AJA. That was good and
(23:15):
I loved how Cody sold that AJ'sfinished at the end. He didn't pop
back up and started fighting. Hestayed down and sold it. That was
good stuff, true true, true, good with the good brothers, and
it was funny. Did you seewhat Mark Henry had tweeted out afterwards?
No, he got basically it waslike a well done AJ with like clapping
(23:37):
hands or something like that, becauseit was very Mark Henry retiring John Cena
comes out. Oh, I thinkI did see that. Yes, so
Mark Henry approves that was that wasgood. I did like that. Did
you have the catch that's kind ofoff topic? A little bit. The
swerve was on Bubet was on thebusted open. Yeah, and he kind
(24:02):
of corrected Bubba and it looked likeBubba took offense to it. I didn't
see the whole interview. Was itlike that? And Dave went the flow?
He didn't kind of correct straight upand bubbake offense. I mean that
was all from what it looked liketo me, it was very legit.
(24:22):
Did either of you see the flatof you I interview? You know,
but I did see the clip.I was wondering him it was that contentious
to the whole thing. Because Bubba'sHe's pulled out punches either way. I
mean, he's a very honest personalwhen it comes to critique in both shows.
Does he critique for sure? Imean does he critique aw more than
(24:47):
the w Probably, but he bringsa ballot points. Yeah. Well,
I mean he's not a dummy theindustry. And like, I'm not saying
that anybody is a dummy. I'mjust saying, you know, people see
(25:07):
the industry in lots of different shades, and you know, I would think
that people that lean a little bitmore into the let's say, for lack
of a better term, old school. Yeah, they're not going to be
(25:30):
very approving of all of what goeson with AW. That's fair. I
mean Bubba Buba, Paul Hayman andall those guys. So there's some traditionality
with Bubba. But I've heard himbe super critical of w WE too.
You know, he's if he doesn'tagree with something, whether it be a
(25:51):
promo or the way a promo wasdone, or the way a match was
done or booked, he'll voice thatopinion too. So he is. But
he sings the praises of AW orWW as well when he likes something.
So yeah, I mean I don'talways catch busted open, but I do
know that, Like they're usually goodeach episode for a few sound bites,
(26:15):
and you know, I think thatthat's an art too, to speak,
especially on those things, and today'ssocial media being what it is, you
know, speak in sound bites almoston purpose. And yeah, I'll see
that. I mean, his opinionis certainly relevant in my book. And
(26:45):
I are you know, we've alwaysgot along. We're not best friends.
I mean, we're not breaking breadon Thanksgiving, but I don't know why
not. I don't know why not. I mean I think that that spikes
question right there. Well, andat this point, like I'd say,
I feel pretty uh pretty close withDevon, and so like by default it
(27:10):
would be there. It would bekind of the same thing with Kyle and
that right there would be a youknow, it would be like a dream
match up would have been you know, at some point in our career as
Red Dragon, to have faced Bubbaretand Devon, I mean, talk about
(27:32):
that would have been crazy. Imean, not getting too deep in the
woods. Is that still possible.I'm talking every healthy enough to have that
match. I don't know, allright, I don't know, but I
mean if we could, if ifwe could wind it up somewhere, it'd
be down for sure. If there'sa promoter out there, let's make this
(27:57):
happen, I'd stop people, Let'sget this guy. Let's quit their contract
with AW so we'd have to haveminor details that we worked out. They
called the Forbidden Door ring. Imean, think it happened. Let's quit
(28:18):
the fucking around. Quit tugging everybody'schain exactly exactly Jesus, so stop already,
yeah, quit fucking around, sobitch. Uh So I was way
off with Uncle Howdie making an appearanceat the backdown What did it end up
(28:41):
being? He still hasn't appeared.Well, he kind of appeared to us
during our back down show. Theguy who came before. I don't like
Bobby was there yet, but hekind of ordered to him and he say,
new, has Fred knew Bobby highschool? Think you think that was
Uncle Howdy? Yes? No?No, Uh, how do I want
(29:07):
to describe that? He was older, fragile? He looks very fragile.
Father had been kind of him yet. No, but he knew someone that
you graduated with, which was weirdbecause I'd never heard of the person and
I thought in real time that wegraduated in the same class. But whatever,
(29:30):
Yeah, last time I checked,he had thought. But so yes,
why should Uncle how He tried tonavigating his camera to take a picture
of all the thing that was infront of them was a sight you've seen
it was it was Obby's here byeshere over here. So you're telling me,
(29:56):
Uncle Howdy sounds like a muppet becausethat was like a very That was
like a mix between Grover and Oscarthe h That was pretty good, Oh
god, actually closer to Grover,kind of super grover ish. Well done.
Frank, that's the best impression you'veever heard by accident. Thank you
(30:18):
read much. It was an accident, it was on purpose. Will polish
you that it was not on purpose? Kids? Nice? That was good.
So and and since we were talkingabout Harley Race earlier, we did
find out on Friday the class oftwenty twenty four going into the International Pro
Wrestling Hall of Fame and Harley's beinginducted this year, which was pretty awesome.
(30:41):
And Angle anchored Angle, Yeah,so good stuff. M h sheah
her Angle. I believe is intown, this town this weekend really for
what? Yes, he's doing thesigning for Steve at Is that one of
(31:07):
the silhouettes that he posted like guesswho's coming? No? That who is
that? It's what looked like Cardona, Doc Cardona. I gotta look it
up. Was the guy who cameout when the Rock first came back Austin
Theory. Yes, I got there, I got there. He mm hmm.
(31:37):
That's fun, Bobby, You gotanything going on this weekend? Upcoming
River City Wrestle con on Saturday andSunday, that's right, Yeah, wrestling
Saturday night, I believe against JohnDavis and oh what the hell is his
(32:04):
name. There were a couple ofbig fellas. Yeah, yeah, that's
real big. The other guys nameUh anyway, anyway, and I'm tired.
(32:27):
Uh, damn it. It doesn'tsay who heed, It doesn't say
the damn names can stay? Okay, rs Yeah, the world guys are.
And then so you're wrestling Saturday Sunday. Wrestling Saturday and then Sunday.
I don't think I'm wrestling. Ithink I'm just signing. God, I
(32:47):
got it. But we'll see thereboth days. And the information on everything
is on what is that on yourInstagram? Instagram X at the Bobby Fish.
Yeah, yes, sir Frank,you got anything coming up this weekend?
I'm in a fishing tournament of theweekend, make a Pete fancy big
(33:14):
Bass. I'll be at the Belmontrepresenting the past. Are you going to
the Belmont? I'll be at theBelmont. Nice. Yes, it's gonna
be multimole people, it is.It'll be hawk media. That's what you're
gonna say. It's gonna be abusy weekend up in Saracelga huge, huge,
(33:36):
Yeah, yep, mm hmm.We're going to a wedding. So
who is making mistake my daughter's aunt. Okay, I'll work that out.
And then on Sunday. Sunday,I'm actually DJing the five eight Future Softball
game up in Malta, So that'llbe fun, very nice pland Derby and
(33:58):
a little all star game afterwards,so that should be interesting. Mm hmm.
And that's it. Bobby Fish Appareldot com. Bitches, Yeah,
get it, get it, getthe website, by the whole thing,
buy all of it, please you. Yeah. Bobby Fish Bookings seven at
(34:22):
gmail dot com. Yeah. Shoutout to Joe Feenie and the Creative Control
Network. Yeah. Big things coming, big things coming, big things coming,
especially to the Bukacki Lounge couple offeatured dancers. Big things, They're
big things all right. On thatnote, say good night, Bobby,
(34:42):
good night Bobby. Yeah, Igot
The most educated professional Professor show.And I mean, folks, where's the
line for the undisc podcast? ByFish? We're back on the podcast.
AKA but Bongo Fiesta. That's thenew nickname. I want to just put
(00:27):
a little page in there, justto make you know. I always thought
it was the Demi pod. ApparentlyI've been way off base on that one.
I wanted to keep everybody on thetoes tonight. Great, then you
did that. I'm not sure theyneed the most that. I'm not mistaken.
We're talking Howard Stern. You justcopyrighted and I'm screwed down. Thanks,
(00:54):
Well, it was all Frank forany there's two hours in the last
day. By the way, Ithrew three hours in the last name.
Three hours y f E A roh. So when the lasses come,
I'll make sure they can get myname built right. I'm want no Confucius.
(01:17):
You know Confucius, Yes, confuthe Chinese philosopher. Yeah, good
man, good man, good wholesomeman, hulk, maniac card carry member.
Remember sorry, was definitely a wholecomaniac. Confucius says, say your
prayers, eat your vitamins, andlift your blue weight. Yes, your
(01:44):
little three I had that I hadthose of course you did. You knew
exactly what I was talking about.Yes, creak me if I'm wrong.
Those castid that came with it too? What? Yeah, where he told
just smoke weed? And I don'tremember that part that if I did not
(02:06):
listen to it backwards, So II I listened to it backwards. What
was on the tape? Uh?If you listen to it backwards, he
told you to smoke weed? Right? Are you doing shots? Yeah?
I think Wait? What? Hm? I don't know, thanks, huh,
(02:34):
I don't remember what was on thetape? Was it music? Was
it like real American and ship right? Was it? Or was it him
telling you how to work? Itwas his workout, our team he talked,
I think so, and you couldfollow along with the post that came
with it. Mhmm, I don'tknow. That sounds off the walls.
(03:00):
Yeah, you know what I didfind funny and it's it. It just
popped back up. I think eitheron my Instagram or my TikTok feed.
Was the commercial for that workout,the kids workout set, And it was
Paul Orndorf that did the commercial,not Hulk Hogan. Really only makes sense.
They didn't want to pay Hogan.They don't want to pay them for
(03:23):
the for the for the appearance,so they had Orndwarf. It was great.
He came busting through the wall likethe kool Aid man. Frank,
you know, I meant to tellyou, I think you'll enjoy Did you
see the Dark Side of the RingHarley Race yet? I have not seen
that one should watch it? Areyou in it? I am not,
(03:46):
but I did enjoy it. Oh, I do want to see. There's
a Dark Side of the Ring that'sactually produced by the Rocks Company. I
think it's called the Debt the wCW. Yeah that Who Killed? Who
Killed? WCW? Oh okay isthat out now? It comes out tonight
(04:09):
as we're recording Tuesday night, andthey interview everybody. I don't think the
w w E documentary did it likethis where they interviewed all parties. I
think fitz Russo's in this one too. So there's a lot of finger pointing.
There are a lot of a lotof things I don't think we've seen
before. So I saw uh DDPhad tweeted that out a little like just
(04:33):
literally just the it was like thetitle that was it. And then I
saw on the Rocks Instagram. Uhin Times Square it was like it was
on there down in Times Square aswell. Yeah. I think the only
person not interviewed was Ric Flair.I don't know why he was not.
He had some grumblines about this too. He was not interviewed for this.
(04:54):
I don't think who killed w CW? Who killed Rick Flair? Oh,
Bearded Beard will he's still He's alive. Mm hmm. Yeah, it's gonna
be on Vice. It's on ViceTV too. It's not hate Vice Miami
(05:15):
truly one of the greatest shows ofthe eighties. Yeah, Crockett and Tubs
were pretty bad ass. I meanthe guest stars are that TV shows that
Who's the Glenn Fry of Vices?What Advice and Men? Yes? So,
(05:36):
uh, you flew to Albany earlySaturday morning MLW there, Yeah,
I flew into Albany, uh Saturday, no Friday night. I flew out
(05:57):
of Albany early Sunday morning into Atlantaand then to MLW where we had the
Battle Riot pay per view. I'vewrestled early. I actually was the first
(06:23):
match and then the last match becausethe Battle Riot was last and I wrestled
the opener against that's really shitty ofme. Name was it very out?
(06:47):
No? No, and he wasgood too, but a young guy from
Atlanta, I think from Atlanta,or at least wrestle some in Atlanta.
I'm a shitty human being. Wellthat was out saying yeah, yeah,
(07:11):
yeah, Well if anybody watched orlistened to this show, probably yeah.
So you had some guests there,Mark Hendry and Taylong made some special guest
appearances. And he hasn't that theTayloran fall asleep on the stage? Who
(07:33):
tay Long? Oh? I didn'tsee my thoughts. They tweeted at the
tay Long, God bless you,tay Long uh fell God bless you again.
Tay Long fell asleep on the stage. Thank you. I think that
was a picture that they caught himwhere it looked like he was. I
didn't see, but I would Iwould refrain from laughing because I'm capable of
(08:01):
such activity as well. You havedone that in this very show numerous times.
I probably at this point, Ithink in the match who it's against,
I could possibly you just never know. I'm a wild that could be
(08:24):
your new gimmick. I'm a sleepdeprived wild card that could be your new
gimmick, though you've be in themiddle of the match, just laid down
fall asleep. I'm not looking fora new gimmick, Frank, you think
his new gimmick should what do wecall him? The narcoleptic? Yeah,
(08:45):
from across ranch, from the BukkakeLounge. Yes, on the via the
double cross in the corner. Takea quick snooze on the bottom turn buckle,
(09:07):
dude, I'll tell you what.So, watching the Harley Dark Side
just talked about a lot. Imean, I get the point that it
drove home the most. It wasjust that, like Harley Race was not
one to fuck with, Like wouldyou put him on the Mount rushmore of
(09:30):
guys in Mestling. I mean,I didn't know first hand, but I
had always heard that Harley was afairly rough customer. I know that the
way that he was taught the businessand the way that he came up was
you know, was that. Butit was said on that documentary, and
(09:58):
I've heard it said before that youknow Harley can handle himself. For one,
he could handle himself for sure,and two he was never far from
his pistol. So yeah, soI mean we're talking like just yeah,
just a different, different animal.But yeah, you know it was good
(10:24):
man, it was. It wasreally good. And having a little bit
of a history with Harley and Harleybeing an integral part of me getting over
to Japan and stuff which really openedup so much for me career wise.
(10:46):
Yeah, it was just cool tohear the you know, the some of
the inside stuff and then even tohear Trevor talk candidly. Oh and that
that leads me to another thing Ifound out over the weekend. So Harley
was a part of me getting pickedup by Noah. Noah is where I
(11:11):
think, you know, I creditlearning how to wrestle quite a bit there.
I am one of the guys thatI was very influenced by and was
an opponent of mine when I workedfor Noah was Kenta. And we've talked
about this on here. I thinkI've made the comparison before I Kenta,
(11:35):
you know, be in our generationsDynamite kid here, Yes, yes,
yes, yes, so MLW whenI believe it's in Tampa, it's the
opening round of the Opera Cup,and I'm going to be uh, I
(12:01):
wonder if I should be saying this, can I guess I don't have to
say anything. Well, I'm prettysure we've set the table. Sit down,
Frank, I guess sure, goahead. Is it Dynamite Nephew that
(12:24):
you'll be facing Dennis? Yeah?Is that what you would have guessed?
I was gonna go with special guestreferee. I'm trying not to fucking blow
anything that you may or may notsupposed to say right now. I just
(12:46):
don't know when the world questions,let me think about it. Let me
think about it, because the payper view was live, but I'm not
sure. I think yeah, youknow, I think we can say it.
(13:07):
All right. So I'm wrestling Kentain the first round of the Operation
oh wow, Yeah, which Ibelieve is gonna be in Tampa in June,
like this month, June of thismonth. Is that what you just
said in June? It's possibly youconfuse me with that. I'm like June
(13:31):
this month, next month, It'sgoing to be in June of July.
Yeah, in June next week.Yeah, So I'm very much looking forward
to that. Kenta and I havewrestled the numerous times in Noah, but
(13:56):
you know, very different circumstances.You know where Keente was like the Ace
o. Well, Marfuji was theace of the company, but Kente was
the ass kicker. I guess,I don't know, like, and he's
(14:16):
strongly his style, you know,strongly influenced what would become my style.
So to me, it's kind oflike, you know, the professor is
going to be wrestling his professor,teacher versus a student. Yeah, kind
(14:41):
of, I mean in a way, because there was I mean, he
didn't realize he was teaching me becauseI'm pretty sure I was older than him,
not even pretty sure, I knowI was, but I was he
was. I was younger in thebusiness than and the come up in Japan
is very different from here in theStates. You know. It's not like
(15:07):
indies and stuff. There's more ofan apprenticeship sort of scenario. Yeah,
so I'm regardless. I'm just I'mreally looking forward to this. Yeah,
you said it was in Tampa,right, Wait, I'm almost positive.
Yeah. Is it the one fromthe coliseum in Saint Petersburg. So yeah,
(15:31):
so that's July twelfth, That's whatI meant, June of next month.
Yeah, well you didn't say that. You didn't say June of next
month. It's blood and thunder twentytwenty four. I believe, Oh that's
not great Blood and Plunder. OhI've been pronounced Plunder Dusty Rhodes, Plunder.
(15:58):
Got to get that plunt there goingunder pay pay window. That was
a great name for the show.Flood and thunder Man zero. Yeah,
did really Riddle ended up winning theBattle Riot? Bitch? Yeah? Did
(16:21):
I see one of the guys fromCobra Kai? He was in there in
that? Yes? Who was thefat guy who tried to get the Cobra
Kai? He was terrible? Washis name? O? God, I
can't remember his name. He gotbeat up by I think at one point.
Well, yeah, he was theguy that got Ben then Terry Silver
(16:44):
paid for his apartments. Yeah,okay, talking about the Cobra Kai,
yes, is it? Yeah?Yeah, the the Netflix show, not
Cobra Kai from the actual movie.No, Cobra Kai, the show.
(17:07):
Right, So I can't I recognizedthe actor? Saw him? He's got
I think it's like three names,like three first names are his name,
and I'm sure he's using his regularlike his acting name. Can can you
(17:37):
do any looking right now? Paulwalter Hauser, Paul walter Hauser, right,
yeah, yeah, Paul Walter Hauser. He was on the show.
He was in the Battle Ryah,he's he wrestles a ton for Game Changer
(17:59):
too. Really Yeah yeah, Imean he was a sweet guy, like
a really really like genuinely nice humanbeing. Nice. Yeah, it was.
It was busy at the time becauseI was watching you on my phone
(18:22):
and I was watching the Yankee gameon TV. Yeah, I'm better than
the Yank not a baseball but inmost other things. Yeah, no,
I would. I would think probably, you know, except for baseball,
probably some other stuff. Yeah,so wrestling, Yeah, it was a
(18:42):
good weekend. It was uh,I mean, what did you guys think
of the of the of the Gangband? What's that you guys think of
the the Demi? What do Ithink of this demipod? I like the
(19:04):
Demi pod? No, not ours. The one that we did in it
was okay. I mean we hadhaving Seth turned around was a good guess
form. It was good to hearabout the Hall of Fame. We had
some Jabbroni's who were walking past andfelt the need to say their displeasures,
(19:26):
which we encountered. We rebuttled withoutthe same displeasures towards them. Yeah,
it was that was a fun backand forth? Yeah, I mean that
that part was fun in retro purpleshirt. Purple shirt was there? Yes,
purple purple main things interesting? Hedid we learned we have a head
(19:49):
of security' Allso yeah, yep foundthat out. Purple shirt guy didn't show
up in Atlanta Saturday, did he? Not that I'm aware of, But
anything's possible. I feel like ifhe was there, he would have made
him he made everyone aware that hewas there. He was, Yeah,
(20:11):
I would imagine he didn't. Hedidn't seem like the type of guy that
you know, didn't crave attention atall. Yeah, And I think if
we had just let that guy getan interview as he was walking by,
he probably wouldn't have been yelling andscreaming at us afterwards. Him or the
other guy, the one guy thatkept like the one that went to the
(20:37):
show, because the first thing outof his mouth was yo, let me
get an interview. Yeah, andyou said no, mmm oh was that
starting? Yeah? That set himoff was Bobby turned down, And that's
how it started. I know,he get rid of you. Yeah,
what intelligence could he possibly over thispodcast? He had no intelligence? I
(20:57):
feel like he wanted us to interviewhim. Maybe I don't know, or
he wanted to interview Bobby or Idon't. We don't know who. We
haven't even met you, and wedon't interview people. I mean, sometimes
(21:18):
called you the Howards and our interviews, but interviews. But that's what's at
the point. You have called himthe Howard staring a podcast of wrestling and
interviews, and I think the peopleI think I'd be more of the Robin
Quivers. Okay, I don't knowwhy, but all right, I was
(21:42):
gonna say something that I forgot,son of a bitch. It's he's one
of those guys that Bobby speaks ofall the time, not being his self
importance and his self awareness, andhe has none because he thinks that everything
should revolve around that guy because he'sthe main character in the movie. So
that guy wanted to be a doucheand yell and scream about shit because he's
(22:06):
self important. He may listen,he probably listens to this show. We're
still talking about the guy that wentinto Yes, our fan, our one
fan. Well, we chase themoff. I think I think he was
(22:30):
running late anyway, so he kindof had to get in there. Go
get a seat. I think wedo it next time. If there's the
next time, we do it moreas a pre show, a pregame pre
show. Well, that way we'llprobably more access to the guys working to
show that kind of stuff, kindof like the same way they do when
(22:51):
they have their ples. They havea pre show and guys come out and
talk and all that stuff. Speakingof SmackDown here in Albany where we did
the podcast, did you see anyof the show we did? We watched
the very ending where Cody and Sethor that's AJA. That was good and
(23:15):
I loved how Cody sold that AJ'sfinished at the end. He didn't pop
back up and started fighting. Hestayed down and sold it. That was
good stuff, true true, true, good with the good brothers, and
it was funny. Did you seewhat Mark Henry had tweeted out afterwards?
No, he got basically it waslike a well done AJ with like clapping
(23:37):
hands or something like that, becauseit was very Mark Henry retiring John Cena
comes out. Oh, I thinkI did see that. Yes, so
Mark Henry approves that was that wasgood. I did like that. Did
you have the catch that's kind ofoff topic? A little bit. The
swerve was on Bubet was on thebusted open. Yeah, and he kind
(24:02):
of corrected Bubba and it looked likeBubba took offense to it. I didn't
see the whole interview. Was itlike that? And Dave went the flow?
He didn't kind of correct straight upand bubbake offense. I mean that
was all from what it looked liketo me, it was very legit.
(24:22):
Did either of you see the flatof you I interview? You know,
but I did see the clip.I was wondering him it was that contentious
to the whole thing. Because Bubba'sHe's pulled out punches either way. I
mean, he's a very honest personalwhen it comes to critique in both shows.
Does he critique for sure? Imean does he critique aw more than
(24:47):
the w Probably, but he bringsa ballot points. Yeah. Well,
I mean he's not a dummy theindustry. And like, I'm not saying
that anybody is a dummy. I'mjust saying, you know, people see
(25:07):
the industry in lots of different shades, and you know, I would think
that people that lean a little bitmore into the let's say, for lack
of a better term, old school. Yeah, they're not going to be
(25:30):
very approving of all of what goeson with AW. That's fair. I
mean Bubba Buba, Paul Hayman andall those guys. So there's some traditionality
with Bubba. But I've heard himbe super critical of w WE too.
You know, he's if he doesn'tagree with something, whether it be a
(25:51):
promo or the way a promo wasdone, or the way a match was
done or booked, he'll voice thatopinion too. So he is. But
he sings the praises of AW orWW as well when he likes something.
So yeah, I mean I don'talways catch busted open, but I do
know that, Like they're usually goodeach episode for a few sound bites,
(26:15):
and you know, I think thatthat's an art too, to speak,
especially on those things, and today'ssocial media being what it is, you
know, speak in sound bites almoston purpose. And yeah, I'll see
that. I mean, his opinionis certainly relevant in my book. And
(26:45):
I are you know, we've alwaysgot along. We're not best friends.
I mean, we're not breaking breadon Thanksgiving, but I don't know why
not. I don't know why not. I mean I think that that spikes
question right there. Well, andat this point, like I'd say,
I feel pretty uh pretty close withDevon, and so like by default it
(27:10):
would be there. It would bekind of the same thing with Kyle and
that right there would be a youknow, it would be like a dream
match up would have been you know, at some point in our career as
Red Dragon, to have faced Bubbaretand Devon, I mean, talk about
(27:32):
that would have been crazy. Imean, not getting too deep in the
woods. Is that still possible.I'm talking every healthy enough to have that
match. I don't know, allright, I don't know, but I
mean if we could, if ifwe could wind it up somewhere, it'd
be down for sure. If there'sa promoter out there, let's make this
(27:57):
happen, I'd stop people, Let'sget this guy. Let's quit their contract
with AW so we'd have to haveminor details that we worked out. They
called the Forbidden Door ring. Imean, think it happened. Let's quit
(28:18):
the fucking around. Quit tugging everybody'schain exactly exactly Jesus, so stop already,
yeah, quit fucking around, sobitch. Uh So I was way
off with Uncle Howdie making an appearanceat the backdown What did it end up
(28:41):
being? He still hasn't appeared.Well, he kind of appeared to us
during our back down show. Theguy who came before. I don't like
Bobby was there yet, but hekind of ordered to him and he say,
new, has Fred knew Bobby highschool? Think you think that was
Uncle Howdy? Yes? No?No, Uh, how do I want
(29:07):
to describe that? He was older, fragile? He looks very fragile.
Father had been kind of him yet. No, but he knew someone that
you graduated with, which was weirdbecause I'd never heard of the person and
I thought in real time that wegraduated in the same class. But whatever,
(29:30):
Yeah, last time I checked,he had thought. But so yes,
why should Uncle how He tried tonavigating his camera to take a picture
of all the thing that was infront of them was a sight you've seen
it was it was Obby's here byeshere over here. So you're telling me,
(29:56):
Uncle Howdy sounds like a muppet becausethat was like a very That was
like a mix between Grover and Oscarthe h That was pretty good, Oh
god, actually closer to Grover,kind of super grover ish. Well done.
Frank, that's the best impression you'veever heard by accident. Thank you
(30:18):
read much. It was an accident, it was on purpose. Will polish
you that it was not on purpose? Kids? Nice? That was good.
So and and since we were talkingabout Harley Race earlier, we did
find out on Friday the class oftwenty twenty four going into the International Pro
Wrestling Hall of Fame and Harley's beinginducted this year, which was pretty awesome.
(30:41):
And Angle anchored Angle, Yeah,so good stuff. M h sheah
her Angle. I believe is intown, this town this weekend really for
what? Yes, he's doing thesigning for Steve at Is that one of
(31:07):
the silhouettes that he posted like guesswho's coming? No? That who is
that? It's what looked like Cardona, Doc Cardona. I gotta look it
up. Was the guy who cameout when the Rock first came back Austin
Theory. Yes, I got there, I got there. He mm hmm.
(31:37):
That's fun, Bobby, You gotanything going on this weekend? Upcoming
River City Wrestle con on Saturday andSunday, that's right, Yeah, wrestling
Saturday night, I believe against JohnDavis and oh what the hell is his
(32:04):
name. There were a couple ofbig fellas. Yeah, yeah, that's
real big. The other guys nameUh anyway, anyway, and I'm tired.
(32:27):
Uh, damn it. It doesn'tsay who heed, It doesn't say
the damn names can stay? Okay, rs Yeah, the world guys are.
And then so you're wrestling Saturday Sunday. Wrestling Saturday and then Sunday.
I don't think I'm wrestling. Ithink I'm just signing. God, I
(32:47):
got it. But we'll see thereboth days. And the information on everything
is on what is that on yourInstagram? Instagram X at the Bobby Fish.
Yeah, yes, sir Frank,you got anything coming up this weekend?
I'm in a fishing tournament of theweekend, make a Pete fancy big
(33:14):
Bass. I'll be at the Belmontrepresenting the past. Are you going to
the Belmont? I'll be at theBelmont. Nice. Yes, it's gonna
be multimole people, it is.It'll be hawk media. That's what you're
gonna say. It's gonna be abusy weekend up in Saracelga huge, huge,
(33:36):
Yeah, yep, mm hmm.We're going to a wedding. So
who is making mistake my daughter's aunt. Okay, I'll work that out.
And then on Sunday. Sunday,I'm actually DJing the five eight Future Softball
game up in Malta, So that'llbe fun, very nice pland Derby and
(33:58):
a little all star game afterwards,so that should be interesting. Mm hmm.
And that's it. Bobby Fish Appareldot com. Bitches, Yeah,
get it, get it, getthe website, by the whole thing,
buy all of it, please you. Yeah. Bobby Fish Bookings seven at
(34:22):
gmail dot com. Yeah. Shoutout to Joe Feenie and the Creative Control
Network. Yeah. Big things coming, big things coming, big things coming,
especially to the Bukacki Lounge couple offeatured dancers. Big things, They're
big things all right. On thatnote, say good night, Bobby,
(34:42):
good night Bobby. Yeah, Igot
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