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April 22, 2024 32 mins
His vocals and music are responsible for creating the mood and his baby making music has not only helped him build a family where he’s daddy to five kids but he has probably helped you grow your family too. He’s four-time GRAMMY® Award-nominated R&B icon Tank and we were able to catch up with him before he kicks off his first tour as headliner: Live Nation Urban presents “The R&B Money Tour”. Come with as we talk with the singer, songwriter, and producer about how he juggles dad life, parenting and being present for his kids when his career calls for him to travel the world and deliver the goods! We also dive into social media and he shares how his kids really feel about him taking his shirt off online. It’s also only right we give him his flowers for creating a space along with is cohost J. Valentine for R&B Legends to talk shop and share with us the behind the scenes on their journeys to success on his pod R&B Money. Tank even drops wisdom when it comes to creating quality time and memories with your family as well as what it means to really be successful at both parenting and achieving your goals. He’ll be spreading all kinds of love on his tour with Keri Hilson and Carl Thomas and it starts in this interview – come get a sneak peek and hear how its best to lead with humanism and LOVE!

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Heady Ray checking in this Mama GotDrama. We're back for another episode.

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Like I always tell you, itis that time to really just have some
convo and talk to some superheroes.I'm talking mama's, I'm talking daddy's.
Yeah, this time we got adaddy on the episode, and we don't
get into this convo. I mean, he's a singer, he's a songwriter.
I mean the fact that you havetantalized us with your vocals for so

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long. It's perfect to have youon this Mama Got Drama because not only
do you create baby making music,you've created some babies for yourself. Right,
Tank is on our podcast today.What's some Tank? How you feeling?
Listen? I feel blessed. Youstart talking, you start talking about
my babies, and I'm like,yeah, I got I got some of
them. Feel I've been okay doingthis. My oldest is my oldest is

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twenty two, and my youngest isnine. So I'm still in happy.
I'm still in me. I meanyou covering all types of milestones and different
transitions. I mean the first thingthat we usually like to dive into real
quick is is there something new thatyour babies are doing? I can tell
you right now. I got afive and a four year old, which
means they're five and four going onfourteen and fifteen. I'm like, when

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did y'all become teenagers? God,I think, well, my sixteen year
old. I've gone through the drivingphase with my sixteen year old now is
just driving. She drove my carthe other day and she was so concerned
about the price of my car.She's like, look, well, how
much is the car? Dadn't Itold her how much it was? She's

(01:33):
like, oh no, oh god. I was like, listen, it
only goes down from here. Ifyou can drive this, you can drive
anything. Just drive. I gotgood insurance. I promise you we are
all right. You raised a smartyoung lady. Because she's already looking at
value like, oh my god,this is Let's make sure that that's genius

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right there. She is not playing, so, you know, But the
new thing I think, you know, I think with the new kid,
it's I think the new thing Ithink that every every parent or all of
us parents are experiencing is just theonline thing, you know what I mean,
whether it be whether it be GTA, whether it be minecraft, whether
it be whatever it is, fromthis media, from this PC to this

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oculus to the social media. Like, that's the new thing that we have
to stay in touch with, stayinformed, and stay in front of because
if if, if we're if we'relost, then we have no way to
protect our kids in those spaces.That's the new thing that we got to

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stay on top of. And thenthere are situations where sometimes your kids are
teaching you and you're like, waita minute, I have right and it's
in And there's times where you're like, you know what, I gotta I
gotta humble myself and take the lessonand let them show me. Because at
that point, you're sitting down withyour baby and you're actually spending time and
you're engaged with them, and they'rethey're inviting you in to their world.

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And then that way you can youcan actually build that trust even more and
have those combos because I mean,the stuff they're getting exposed to. I
don't know how much access your kidshave. I mean you have the older
ones in the twenties, right,but you got your nine year old,
Like, how do you navigate that? My nine year old can find anything.
You can find anything. If youturn off the if you turn on

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the parental controls. He knows howto find the parental controls and turn them
off. He was writing cold twoyears ago, like my sisters. So
it's like you said, you reallyhave to sit down with your kids and
immerse yourself in their spaces. Likemy daughter teaches me TikTok. You know
what I'm saying, Like, no, do this, and then you add
to do it and then you putthe like it's I'm really sitting with them,

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and like it's like you said,it's now the new form of bonding.
You know what I'm saying, Becausebefore it was just like hey,
dad, can you go outside withme and play catch? And now it's
like my son is like, hey, can you come watch me play my
video game? Like that's a thinglike sitting in this room and just watch
him play. Ooh you did that? Oh why did you kill them?
Like that? Oh you got topick that up. Get that. And

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so it's it's the new bonding space. And so yeah, like I said
before, a parent, get intothat. Get into it. And then
you got two ways to do it, because you're talking about the behind the
scenes where you get to actually bein the room with your baby while he's
playing, but you on the otherside sometimes if they're streaming and you're watching
the actual feed just to see who'sin the comments, what's going on,

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because they're they're absorbing all of thattoo, right, So it's so many
different levels to this. We gotto stay up with our babies on so
much. Now, now that wetalked about social media, I gotta jump
to this post that you put up, and I'm like, this is like
the smartest, funniest ish I've seenlately, because you got up there promoting
the fact that y'all getting ready forthis tour. By the way, we're

(04:50):
gonna talk about this tour in asecond, but let's talk about this post
that you put up promoting the tourand promote the fact that you're doing like
a meet and greet. And you'relike, listen, I'm gonna go ahead.
Let y'all know right now, ain'tgonna be no ain't gonna be no
hitting in front the back. Poses. We are going to meet and greet
the way grown folks do. Amen. Amen, Anna, We're gonna meet

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and greet in the best the viewof the church. Okay, there will
be a bartender, because Jesus didturn water to wine. We will have
that. But do you feel likeyou do you feel like you have to
put these almost lightweight disclaimers out therebecause you in the R and B space.

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Let's be real, you out hereflashing them six packers abs, and
you gotta remind folks, I'm stillrespectable. When I come to me Greek,
right, I create an expectation,you know what I'm saying, And
shout out to my brother Chris Brown. He has taken that expectation, Oh
my god, whole another level.And now you know, and you gotta

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think about this, like I ofcourse appeal to an older demographic, but
they like to feel young too.We like to feel young, and so
come on now and participating that way, you know you have you like to
have fun, you like to Soafter all of the you know, after
all the commentary, you know,I've gotten with some people in in uh

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in my camp and the powers thatbe, and we have a few approved
poses that I'll be posting on pageA few. Some of them are little
racing, but I got them approved. So I'm like, I'm wondering,
I'm like, which are these poses? With you in the house practicing,
It's hysterical. You better work onyour core work. So when you're gonna

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give the people the little taste ofthe pos approved poses. I'm closer to
the tour, maybe like a weekout. You know what I'm saying,
I'll get the excitement broughing. I'mso done. Okay, So now that
we're talking about the tour and excitedabout the fact that you're getting ready to
man hit up all these arenas andwhatnot with Carrie Hillson Carl Thomas on this,

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I mean, this is the firsttime that you three are are traveling
in this way. I mean,especially for us coming out of the pandemic.
We've been out of We've been outof the pandemic for a minute,
right, but we're now feeling likethe actual coming out, Right, So
what for you and the team hasbeen so you know, refreshing, exciting
or have there been things that you'relike, really like that's different now?

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Well, the fact that R andB is reclaiming its position, I think
people have people have now desired balance, you know, and you know from
the hip hop and from the youknow, from the music that is in
that space and what it promotes,right, there's a place for that but

(07:58):
people also want to feel loved.People also want to feel appreciated, and
people also want to pay to seereal talent. And so me putting this
tour together and grabbing Carl and grabbingcarry was like, let me grab people
that are extremely capable of delivering liveand who have a catalog that is just

(08:20):
extremely expensive, you know what Imean. And so that's why it's R
and B money. You know whatI'm saying. These are expensive catalogs,
These are expensive gifts We're gonna haveon some expensive drip. You know what
I'm saying. I admonish you tohave on your expensive drip, you know
what I'm saying, and come outand have an expensive good time with us,
and we're not listening. The thingwe're not gonna do is we're not

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gonna overcharge you for this, youknow what I'm saying. Everyone's mind was
going like, oh, he talking, he talking, We got no,
Nope, you don't have to spendcrazy like even with the meeting greets,
Like the meeting greet is the costof meeting one artist, but all three
of us will be there, youknow what I mean. And we did
that on purpose because as we getback into this love space and as we

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get back into you know, justwanting to just feel something more than what's
out there. We wanted to makeeverybody feel welcomed. We didn't want we
didn't want to alienate anybody. Youknow what I'm saying. Based on the
ticket price, now all are welcome, and in the ticket life price is
gonna reflect that. Come get someof this love on you. Come one.

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Look at that you're spread the loveall over the place with the vocals
and the ticket prices. Look atthat. I love that. And we
got to put it out there thaty'all are touching down in the city in
San Francisco at the Masonic June twentysecond. I mean, the tour kicks
off in May, but y'all gonnabe here in June. So it's gonna
be nice and little warm out.It's gonna be Warm's gonna be out when

(09:48):
the bay is warm, when it'swarm and the thing, Yeah, it's
nice. Nice. You see,I still live out here, you know
why, So let's talk about it. Since we were talking about, uh,
the Yay area, San Francisco,the city. I mean, you
know, you do a little youdo a little podcast. It's a big

(10:09):
podcast. Let's put it out therewith the homie, Jay Valentine. I
call him the homie because he's mymixed brother with the baby. Baby curls
on the edge there. I mean, he got edges. You know what's
up. But you know I lovethe podcast. I mentioned to you,
I got a four, four anda five year old, so I can't
always tune in at the regular hours. I gotta listen at late night hours

(10:33):
when they sleep sleep, but Imean talk to the people that are sleeping
under a rock and having tuned intothe podcast. I mean, y'all just
had on, uh the amazing marchhAmbrosias. By the way, your your
UK accent. I was like,where is tang on with this? I
have to talk my top, youknow, top. It's not listen bro

(10:56):
tony down. You know, It'sjust something that I knew we could speak
to, you know what I mean? I was like, Jay, listen,
if anybody can have this conversation,we can. We've you know,
first, you know, based onhow long we've been doing it, the
success we've had, but the peoplewe're connected to, we've we've been blessed

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to have and maintain some very verygood relationships in this business on every level,
from an executive level, artist level, producer, songwriter, choreographer,
makeup stylists, production like you nameit. We have great relationships with these

(11:39):
people, man, because we've alwaysbeen in the people business. We've always
been in the business of being ofservice and taking care of people and just
being gentlemen in that respect. Sowhen it came to this podcast and and
building it and getting people to showup and all that, it wasn't difficult.
Like, it wasn't difficult at all. Like people, you know,
if you see it, most ofeverybody's our friends, you know what I

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mean. People, We've had experienceswith people, We've done music with people,
We've done people, we've hung outand broke bread with people who've been
to the house you know what I'msaying, and played uno with Like it's
it's just it's just different. Andwe get an opportunity to shed some light
on the journey man, We getsome We get an opportunity to shed some

(12:22):
light on what's important about our genreof music, like the the you know,
the the pods and all of thosethings that kind of lean more towards
the shock value. We respect thosethere's a space for that, but we
also want to make sure, youknow, we highlight the nuances of the

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journey, the work that goes intoit, and then the celebration of it,
because there's no reason that we aren'tstill celebrating the whispers. There's no
reason why we still you know,aren't aren't aren't celebrating you know, baby
face, see what I'm saying.Who's nominated, still nominated for Grammy still
to this day, Like like,there's no there's no reason we shouldn't be

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doing those things. And so ourour goal is to be the bridge to
connect this new R and B toto the older R and B and continue
to be able to teach each other. The new people can teach the old
people something, and the old peoplecan definitely teach them something. And that's
that's what this platform is about.And and y'all doing it, y'all that

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that was the mission and the vision, and y'all doing it, and you're
also painting that picture of how importantR and B has been for other genres.
Everybody sample of y'all, everybody isuh, you know, got a
story about how that song affected theirlife, whether it was their first slow
dance or their you know, theirtheir first experience, you know, in

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that space, right talking to somebodythat had a crush on and there was
a song playing, Like you attributeso many memories to those R and B
tracks, right, And the factthat you guys are taking the time to
share that world because you know wewe and like you said, no disrespect
to the other pods. We actuallycelebrate the other pods that are shock value
and talking about hip hop and gettinginto the beafs and all that stuff.

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We celebrate those. But there's alsoa space for love, right, Like
there's also a space for you know, those moments where you just you just
have a good ass memory and it'sit's it's associated with an R and B
track or an R and B artistsliding across the stage or you feel me.
And so it's dope what you guysare doing. And I think that

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it's so timely, right that y'allare doing it now. You brought up
you know, some greats with theWhispers and Babyface, and you know the
fact that you guys have Mario onand he is like the most the most
legendary quietly, you know what I'msaying, Like we all respect him in
that light, but no one's sayingit out loud. And the fact that

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y'all brought him on and he actuallytalked about his journey in that way,
and the way you guys are paintingor allowing folks to have that space to
talk about their journey is just itis so dope. So I just,
you know, wanted to take thetime. And that's what we do on
this Mama Got Drama, is wegive flowers to our people, right,
we give flowers or to our superherozaddies and our superhero mamas that are you

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know, maintaining their kids and bringingthem up, but then also knocking these
goals off. Y'all had to goto create a podcast and y'all doing it.
And so back to parenting and howyou're juggling it. I mean,
we talked about the fact that youwant to be there with your kids,
understanding what they're doing and how they'renavigating the online world. I mean,

(15:43):
how how does that come into playbecause you are posting, you know,
I'm out on I'm promoting a concertor I'm over here working out getting ready,
Like how do your kids find stuff? Dad? What you're doing while
you put this? Why you putthis up. I'm I think I'm only
cool to one of my kids.I think, I think to the rest

(16:07):
of my kids, I think I'mjust cringe right, put a shirt on,
Gosh, put your shirt off.You know, they're just you know,
but I think the thing that youknow, my kids get to see
ultimately is just hard work, youknow what I mean, they get to
see that. My son asked melast night, He's like, Dad,
why are you Why are you alwaysleaving? I said, I said,

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buddy, that's my job, Isaid. I said. My job is
to you know, to go deliverthe mail, you know what I mean.
And I deliver the mail all overthe world. You know what I
mean? I said. And soon, when it's your time to have a
job, you may have a joblike this where you have to deliver all
over the world. And so,you know, I want you to think
about all the cool things that we'reable to do. You know, all

(16:52):
of the great moments. We justtook a you know, family trip to
Aspen and skiing and snowmobiling and allof this cool stuff, and we have
to sit by the fireplace and havesome moores, and you know, we
have those great memories and I said, the reason we can, the reason
we're able to not the only reason, but part of the reason we're able
to do things like that and experienceso many cool things is because Daddy goes

(17:15):
and delivers the mail at a highlevel. So you know, I decided
a long time ago how I wantedto live and how I wanted my kids
to live, and I wanted tomake that a reality. I didn't.
I didn't grow up with any ofthis. I grew I grew up with
all the love imaginable and I willnot I will never like second guess or

(17:38):
say anything bad about my upbringing.I was raised well you know what I
mean. But you know, Inever I never went to I never went
to Greece, you know what Imean. I never went to Santorini.
I never went to you know whatI mean. Like, I never went
to California. You know what I'msaying. I never went to Miami.

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And so for me, you know, I was like, I'm gonna work
hard and I'm gonna show my kidsthings that I was never able to see.
And that was the goal. Andthat's what I do. So they
they they they love me, andthey joke on me at the same time,
like they kind of get it andthat's the perfect that's the perfect blend
right there. And it's only tobe expected to have your kids cringe a

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little bit like that for real.They come like, yeah, I'm not
a star all the time here,like they just singing again, cut that
out. Yeah we know the bridge. It's fine, we know the chorus.
Pop, come on the bridge,all right, come? But those
are those are the moments, right, and we treasure all that and the

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fact that you have made it soclear to your kids, like the different
sacrifices and things that you're picking andchoosing so that you can have those core
memories with them and ask in bya fire, right, like maybe I'm
gone for two weeks or whatever,but I'm back for this moment. So
how how has that been for you? You know, being so active and

(19:08):
uh having to be away. Imean you probably a time or two have
missed a moment that you wish youcould have been there for. How do
you then navigate that as you continueto be at the high level. Right,
Well, thank god for FaceTime,right, Okay, thank god for
this you know, this digital spacewhere we can at least kind of still

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see you know what I mean.It used to be missed it. You
missed it, like okay, please, you know what I'm saying. Somebody
just had to tell you and thenhold up, I forgot about this part
then when it came out like itwas that. But now it's literally like
I have a full live recording orI'm on FaceTime live while it's actually happening,
and I get to see the smileon their faces and listen to the

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people react to them doing you know, their being at the talent show or
whatever it is, and so andthen and then it's a about who you're
co parenting with. You know whatI mean, I've been I'm blessed to
have. You know, I'm coparenting with with some great people. My
wife, who's amazing at communication indetail in that respect, she's gonna make

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sure I see and know everything likethat's that's her sole purpose. She is
not playing when it comes and she'sgonna make sure that she looking at that
schedule to make sure don't nobody booknothing on this day and on this day,
and why y'all booking? You know, you got you know what I'm
saying. And then he's got soyou know, I do my best,

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like I do my a lot oftimes, I'm there, you know what
I mean when it comes to thosethings that my kids are doing, and
and and and and those moments thatI'm there, whether it be volleyball,
whether it be I don't care whatit is. I'm in the stands making
up cheers. I'm the loudest dad, Like, come on, dad,
I know you love me. Iam him promise. But that's what that

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just goes back to your point oflike the team. It makes a difference,
Like you're already wanting to be thereand passionate about being there, wanting
to be on the sidelines cheering foryour kids, and then you got your
wife who's like, oh no,we're gonna make sure this fits. You
know, the algorithm is good.I'm gonna make sure that the calendar algorithm
is good. So that's a that'sa key point right there, is building
that team and that partnership and thatcommunication. I mean that is like more

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than half the battle right there,right And so you know, now you
you're in this space of like,Okay, we've got this foundation, we've
got this team getting ready for thistour. I mean, you're gonna be
outside, hitting up different cities,having these experiences, but then staying connected.
Right, So I mean, areyou are you doing anything to prepare

(21:47):
for all of that tour wise?I mean, it's for me, it's
a it's a normal you know,the normal tour prep you know what I'm
saying. You train, yeah,you know, you get your body right,
you get your voice right. Youalso get your music right, all
of those things, You get yourcontent, All that stuff is easy.
I think that what I've done differentlynow is in terms of delegating who captures

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a lot of these things, becausea lot of it, you know now's
social media driven, and you knowthat that's another layer of responsibility that I'm
trying to shed so that I havemore time to, you know, keep
up with what's going on with thekids and at home. And so what
you find is that just as yougrow, you're able to delegate things and
take more things off your plate sothat you can create more time for the

(22:33):
for the things in real life,you know what I mean. And so
as I'm going on tour, Ipromise you I will I will still be
very much connected to the house.I will know everything that's going on every
day. I'm pretty sure there wasa message to your kids, like don't
you act out a character just becausePops is out here doing work. I
don't have to like like like mywife is queen up. I talk to

(22:56):
your daddy. You know what I'msaying, Your daddy right, heren't think
I don't. I don't miss athing. I'd be like, Babe,
I'm gone. I would like tofeel like I'm gone. I don't want
to be and be on FaceTime thewhole time. I'm gone. You're gonna
be on face time. We're gonnascan the room, scan the room.
As a wife and mother who hasto utilize FaceTime in that way myself,

(23:18):
Oh, you're gonna be in thisroom when it's you might be here digitally,
but you're gonna hear how these kidstalk to me. When you hear
this, That's what's up. Ilove all of that. I'm so excited
that y'all are stopping in the BayArea for this. I mean you're ending
in Vegas. I mean that's that'sa dope way to like close out right.

(23:41):
And then I mean it's how manycities are y'all hinding up Citieshows my
God? Like that's that's like youknow what I'm saying, Like for people
who only catch you on one stop, like you guys are gonna be Yeah,
I wanted to. You know,certain things prevented us from going longer,

(24:03):
but you know, I think there'san opportunity for us to keep going,
maybe take it overseas, Like peopleare responding to it, and I
think once we get it on stageand people actually see it, I think
the belief in that idea is goingto be even greater. So I'm excited
to people feel it's. Yeah,they I can I can already feel that

(24:25):
they're going to be feeling a lotright because we see you. We get
to see you more often than Carland Carry because of the podcast and all
of that, and we see howyou bring that shall we say, vibe.
And then you got people like Usherwho like turned his residency into a
strip club slash roller rink slash.Yeah. But but but you know what

(24:49):
I'm saying, So R and Bis transporting us right, yes, And
I'm excited to see where you threetransport us on this summer to I mean,
is there any little tipbit you wantto drop for the people? No,
I do not I want you toget the tickets and get your asses

(25:11):
in the building. Whether it bewhether it be you on a date or
you're looking for a date. Okay, we got it for you, you
know what I'm saying. Whether youwant to fall in love like or lust,
we got it for you. Comeget some you know what I mean.
Put on you some nice clothes.You know what I'm saying. Get

(25:33):
your herd deed fellas, get yourmanicure, pedicure ladies, like when you
are ladies, like when you arewell groomed. You know what I'm saying,
when your hygiene is right, likelike, do all of that and
then pull up to the R andB Money Tour and get your money's worth
like this. This is this isthe type of event that it is.

(25:56):
I want you to be able toremember this day, and I want you
to be able to associate a songof one of one of our songs with
this day and always be connected tothis feeling. That's what we're going for,
man, I love it. Ediealso dropped that he's gonna be dropping
some little approved poses before in Mayand experienced poses and the note there was

(26:22):
to get your abs right. Soyou got what about a month. Well,
not your ass. Get your coreright, because you doing. I
said, you gotta have apps tohave a strong core. This is right,
this is right. You make yougot the ballance? The positions they'll
require some ballance. I'm so donebefore we go. You know, I
gotta throw it back right quick toTGT days, Yes, because I to

(26:45):
this day. If I need agood chuckle, will go back to a
video you three posted clowning on Tyresee'seyebrows. Remember when y'all did that live
performance and he was sitting there infront you on the piano, like,
what is he doing? He goinggoing to a different part of his eyebrows
was listen, what a time tobe a live It's just, you know,

(27:08):
you can't even make that kind ofstuff up. Like it's like,
and thank god again for video andthe technology where we can still have these
moments captured and laugh at them.But I was like, I was like,
y'all don't understand the buffoonery that's aboutto take place. But if you
all want to sing this song,okay, all right, but I'm telling

(27:30):
you right now it's not going togo. Well, here we go.
But what's funny for us people watchingit. We could see that little sentence
that you said on your face asyou're as you're playing. I told these
fools told and genuine leaned into itlike Oh this is gonna We're gonna make

(27:51):
this good. I'm like, ohmy god, what is happening right now?
Ole body, every every hair wasinvolved. And the thing about it
is that was dope is that wejoined y'all on that. It wasn't like
a oh, we don't they they'renot We're not checking for them no more,
we're not. No. We wereright there with y'all, appreciating the

(28:14):
brotherly love and the R and Band laughing along like as a family,
right, like we all have beenwatching y'all. Yeah, yeah, And
it was it was actually our biggestmoment, Like all of all of the
stuff that we did really well didn'tconnect. It was that blunder you know
what I'm saying, That made usmore relatable and more viral than anything.

(28:38):
And so I wouldn't trade it forthe world. Man, I I love
it. I love it. Soif if if we should, I mean
should we ever like just keep ourhopes up for any TGT kind of like
hello, we're here. We justwant to say hi. I mean one
of the stops on the tour,maybe possibly listen to tech the text chain
is active. I'm just letting youactive, so you know, you just

(29:04):
you never know, you know.That's what's up. That's what's up.
I appreciate you for taking the timetoday. We are so excited that y'all
getting ready for this tour. Imean it's kicking off in May, and
then it's gonna I'm sorry, didI say that wrong. It's kicking off.
Help me, and then going throughJill June twenty seconds. You'll be

(29:26):
right here in the Bay Area.My mind is a little frazzled, and
it's because this morning they kicked offthe Free Palestine protests that's happening worldwide,
and they shut down the Golden GateBridge this morning. They shut down eight
eighty in Oakland this morning, andthey literally had people on the freeway with
their hands in barrels that were filledwith concrete, which meant that in order

(29:48):
for them to reopen this major arteryby the Oakland Airport, they had to
have people come out there and sawthem out of this concrete barrel. And
it's still going on right now,and the I bring this up. I
know, whenever you're listening to thispodcast, it might be you know,
a couple of days from when thisactually went down. We're gonna feel this
for a few for a bit,right, because this is happening today in

(30:12):
the UK, it's happening in Australia. They've got shutdowns happening in London.
It's it's a big, big deal. And I don't know if you even
feel like jumping in and talking aboutwhat you kind of touched on as far
as your thoughts on you know,everybody saying you know, I mean,

(30:32):
it's it's a lot as a parentto watch, right, yeah, and
it's a it's a lot to youknow, I tell I tell people all
the time. I say, hey, listen, just you know, before
you you know, before you establisha position, I said. First and
first, we all we always wantto be on the side of humanity,
right, we always want to beon the side of of of of everyone,

(30:56):
you know what I mean, everyoneliving, you know, and being
good human beings to each other.I said. But also before you go
get to picking side and get toyou know, waving flags and this sort
of thing, you know, makesure you are educated on a thing.
Make sure that you you you dodeep dives and talk to people who are

(31:18):
who are from these places, whoare who are in the thick of it,
and and understand the point of viewsand the things that are happening before
you just get out there and justput yourself in some crazy position. And
so for me, it's you know, it's always about studying and learning and
understanding and and and and being human, you know what I mean, and
sympathizing with the human experience. Youknow, I will say that for my

(31:42):
people, we we are we arestill enduring a lot that we have that
we have to get over. That, we have to figure out that your
past. We are still we arestill dying, you know, in record
numbers. And we have to asa commune and as a culture figure that
part out as well, while they'retrying to figure out their part as well.

(32:05):
So again, let's let's let's tryto be good human beings. Yeah,
they got to be decent human beingsman, and care for the next
human being like we would want themto care for us. I love that.
Let's let's end on that note rightthere. This mama got drama.
So grateful to have Tank on withus not only step into the mic as

(32:27):
the R and B crooner songwriter Imean behind the scenes due, but also
just reminding us to be human,accept love, be ready to give love,
and and just man so just tohave you. Thank you so much,
Tank, I appreciate you having me
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