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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Jim. There's death. Hello, Jack is here, top of
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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Speaker 4 (00:32):
He also calls me up for his football picks, and
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
Me let me take a second give you a little compliment,
because it's important you know stuff like this, and it's
important to people who are listening to the show understand
while we have a gentleman like you that comes through
every week and talks about this much like you do
with the monsters, you know, in the world of legal
profession it's hard sometimes to get past the perception that
people have about attorneys in general. Right, I think you
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explode that. I think you do a very good job
at bursting that away. You are literally the most normal
or one of the most normal attorneys I've ever met
in my life.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
You're easy to converse with that way.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
When you have a problem that can be very sensitive,
you don't feel like there's going to be any judgment
while talking to you about it. And we've had some
situations over the last three or four years that weren't
exactly savory for us and our family that we've been
able to lean on you for great advice and you've
come through for so One of the great reasons I
love having you as a friend and an attorney of
ours is because I know for a fact when something
comes up, I can just pick up the phone and go,
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this is what I need and it's no Bs's straight
to work. So I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
No, I appreciate it that it's like the biggest compliment
you can give me. Because I'm not a huge fan
of lawyers in general. I think a lot of lawyers
do the profession in a way that is not the
way I recommend doing it, and so I try to
do a little differently and be as genuine and honest
as I can, and I think it works out much
of the time.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
It does. Buddy, I gotta tell you know, for me
to you, you know, obviously, being in this.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Business for thirty five years or so, you've meet every
ilk of human that can ever be thought. I mean,
you could dream up a personality trade and trust me,
I've met four of them. If you've met any club
owner in your life, you understand exactly what I'm talking about.
It's hard to sift through those people and find people
who are genuine, and I think you do a really
good job making people very feel very comfortable while dealing
with some of the most difficult situations in their life.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Well, thank you, I very much appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
All right, very good, and I make my show funny.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
All right, So three lawyers walk into a bar and
what do you have versus this week? But you know
what we had the Didty sentencing.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, that's actually what I want to talk to you. About.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
That's awesome because I didn't This is the one thing
I didn't. Usually you and I will have a little
conversation about this, and I didn't get a chance to
text you with all today. Were you expecting more or
less or well, I mean when you look at it
outside from an attorney.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
What are you looking at?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
So I think the sentencing matches kind of what we
thought about. Right, So, there were some really obviously heinous,
awful allegations that were raised against Diddy in this trial.
We knew that the jury got to see some pretty heinous,
awful stuff. And what we see is basically with the
charges that Diddy was convicted for, that the judge basically
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threw the book at him, right, They basically said, Okay,
how can I max out the sentence? And so the
latest story on it, I don't know if you saw
today was Diddy's attorneys are going to be appealing the sentence,
saying it's a no brainer. I mean just from a
strategy standpoint, but they're gonna be They're gonna be appealing it.
And and they're already talking about how the judge was
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the thirteenth juror basically say that the judge kind of
put his thumb on the scale of justice to make
sure that Diddy had some type of punishment, and and
it raises all kinds of you.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Know, legal legal procedural.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Issues, do process issues, but also just confidence in the
judicial system issues. Right if a judge can kind of
go so far outside of what the jury's saying and
what the jury wants and sentencing, is that still a
fair trial? And you know, we have this separated system
where the jury gets to decide you know, guilt or innocence,
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and the judge gets to find you know, the punishment,
and they's got some something guidelines. But it really brings
up some interesting issues that I think we're going to see,
you know, explored in a more public way.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Let me ask you a quick question.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Sure, if they don't have the video of him beating
up Cassie in the hotel, does this go the same way?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Well, you know what they what they convicted him of
was basically it's kind of I call it the guilty
as hell rule, Like we know he did something wrong,
we just can't put our finger on it. So basically
they said that he was guilty of you know, the
international transportation to commit crimes, although they couldn't really link
everything together for the.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
For the Rico stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
But let me ask you why I asked that.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I mean, I'll tell you why I asked that right,
if I'm if I'm in an if I'm in a jury,
and they're taking they're saying all these things that happened
all he had, the freak offs, this, the freak offs
that you know, he did this, he did that, you know,
witness after witness coming up, Well he did this to me,
he stole this money from there, and bah right, that's
all still that to me at that point that still
just witness, you know, testimony still could be hearsay. But
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when they show that video of this guy beating up
a girl who is one hundred and ten pounds, he
is this hulking, you know, muscular guy violent, You see
the vitrool and his and his actions.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
You then you find out what it's about.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Doesn't that really solidify with the jury up that line
that everything that every witness has said going into that statement,
when they play that video, they go, oh, anybody that
can do that can certainly do anything that everybody just
said a few minutes ago.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Right, Well, I think you're absolutely correct, And you know,
part of that is the reason why lawyers spend so
much time pre trial arguing these motions to exclude that
type of evidence, because sure, the possibility for prejudicing your
client and influencing the jury is so high that it
sometimes does risk, you know, the possibility of a fair trial.
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We saw it with the Parkland shooter. Remember when they
wanted to take the jurors on a tour of the
school so they can see exactly where people got shot.
I could see the pools of blood, you know, in
the classrooms.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
You know.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
It was kind of that same argument that that there's
no way that the jury could be there see those things,
have that experience and still look at the defendant fairly right,
And so I think you're right. I think there's always
that possibility. Now the judge's job is to try to
balance the fairness aspect with the aspect of we need
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to get the most accurate evidence into the record.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And I would think this is just me personally, but
I would think the judge would want the truth being sold.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I mean, you can not play that video. It happened,
it was a crime.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
It supports everything that's being said about the guy and
the crimes that he the kind of crimes that he's committed.
It'd be like this, right, if there's a guy and
he's being accused of being just a terrible racist, and
one after the other people go go, oh, yeah, he
did this to me, he did this to me, he
did this to me. But there's no evidence of it.
It's just these people saying it. And you have one
video of this dude burning across right, that's all you need. Right,
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that solidifies the possibility that everything that was said before
is actual because we have evidence, physical evidence this guy
is in that world.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Well, and here's what I'd say.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
You know, being a domestic violence or batterer person doesn't
necessarily mean he was. He was the head of a
criminal organization that was organized for the purpose of, you know,
making money.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Like the two things aren't directly related.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
And that's part of the problem with our rules of evidence, right,
Like we don't we don't want necessarily bad you know,
evidence of that you're a bad person coming into the
record just to taint your reputation. Right, Like the fact
that like I've broken a hundred laws may not be
relevant at all to the fact that I was jaywalking.
I mean it might, but it may not be, Like
you have to draw that connection. And so I think
that's what that's what Diddy's attorney are gonna be arguing
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like that's stuff they're gonna be focusing on where the
judge could have made one of these pre trial rulings,
didn't this evidence did come in and it tainted the
jury and or it tainted the sentencing, right, And so
I think that's exactly the kind of stuff his lawyers
are going to be arguing, is whether or not that
should have come in or not, and does that, you know,
improperly impeach his character.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
So it'll be interesting to see what happens.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, man, it is gonna be interesting. I don't know
that he's gonna go very far on appeal. I don't
know that they have any anything compelling that could what
could possibly reverse the judge's decision. He already got kind
of a light sentence. I mean, he was possibly could
get twenty, right, I think he.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Was possibly going to get life if he had all
the things concurrently.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Well, we knew that wasn't gonna happen, though we knew eleven. Yeah,
I heard it was gonna between seven and ten. That's
what I heard, okay, sentence and when I heard four,
which includes the year he's already been in, so that's five,
you know, I mean, I thought that was pretty close.
I still thought it was a little bit light considering.
And again we know for a fact, through evidence and
through witness and of course with a video, that this
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guy was one of the most unsavory characters out there.
That doesn't mean that he had an international prostitution scheme,
But it also doesn't mean that he wasn't doing what
he did to Cassie because she was trying to leave
that that culture of that, and that would maybe the
punishment of leaving a you know, a.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Relationship like that, toxic relationship, or.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Or a group of people who are in a relationship
like that who are being controlled by like a pimp
of something.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Right well, and I also don't forget he's got criminal
charges pending. I think in Miami and in la if
if are call realrectly for firearms and for something else.
So he's got some other issues that he's going to
be dealing with. So he might he might be walking
out of one trial and into another.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Let me ask you another question.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I guess his entire family lined up, you know, one
after the other sons and daughters and other character witnesses.
Does that ever affect a judge? I mean, especially when
the evidence is again so overwhelming and egregious. Does the
judge ever look at a daughter, you know, who probably
doesn't even know who her dad really is? You know
those kind of people shield usually themselves from their own children.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Does that really have an impact?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I'll tell you what, here's a true story of a
case that you know. When my client asked me to
try the case, I told him point blank, I would
not bet any money on this trial, like you're gonna lose.
I'll give you like a ninety nine percent chance you're
gonna lose. And and we had bad facts and we
ended up not winning. And so then we got to
the sentencing and I said, here's the offer on the table.
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This is probably better than your best day with this judge.
And he want He was all about I just need
to hear from the judge. So we had our sentencing
hearing and one of the one of the family statements
we had was from my client's mother, who was an
older woman early on set dementia and her primary caregiver
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was my client. And I didn't know this going into
it to the full extent that I do now. So
she she was reading a statement about how he cares
for and it's a lot of stress, and he's supporting her,
he's supporting his child, he's in a relationship, he's got
all these things, and he's also working and just presents
a lot of stress for him. And and I could
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see the judge physically start tearing up.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Oh my god, are you serious?
Speaker 4 (10:59):
At first, I couldn't hell if it was a good
tearing up or bad tearing up. And the judge made
her sentencing and then pulled me aside after the fact
and said, you don't understand how personal and real that
story is to me in my life.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
And so you need to tell your client he got
a great outcome today. He should be thanking you and
thanking his lucky stars. But it was very close to
going the exact opposite.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Ry to ask you a question, was was the crime egregious?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Was it? I mean? Or were was he looking at
real time?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
He was looking at real time? Here it was it
was one of those repeat offenders.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
And so his crime didn't hurt anybody physically but or financially,
but it was it is a crime that he repeatedly did,
and there were enhanced penalties for it.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
So he was probably looking at ten years in prison.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Goodness.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Really, yeah, and so and and you know, I've kept
in touch with him. This is probably gosh, this is
probably six or seven years ago, and he's sober and
he's doing the right thing for him. His mom did
pass away, but he reunited with his brother and brought
the whole family together.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Amazing, really unique.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Situation, but yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
It was one of those cases where the testimony of
the witnesses really did change the outcome.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Man.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
If I was like, if I was that defensi attorney,
if I was the prosecutor and I see a judge
crying at a victim or at an impact statement, I'd
be like, okay, go hold a pause. What we're going
to recess. We're gonna let this judge regroup, and then
we're gonna come back, and you're not gonna be crying
in front of the damn jury.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah. He and I gave some jabs at each other after.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
You know, had it gone a different way, maybe he
maybe I would have been a little.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Bit less gracious.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
But you know, just like the Dolphins yesterday, sometimes the
other side steals victory out of your teeth and.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
You lose the game.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
So not that you're bitter about it. Not bitter at all, No,
not in the least. I can't feel it across the room.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
I come to expect it these days, and you should
only only on the football field, not in the court room.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
It's funny because Brandon is a big fan too, and
he has that same body of language, so I love it.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, it's pretty miserable.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Yeah, you know, it's a weird place that I'm in
where I watch the Bills game and I find myself
cheering for the Patriots and happy that the Patriots won
a game, and uh, who knows, I might just become
a Patriots fan at this point.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Don't do that.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I'm ready to give up on the Dolphins altogether. Yeah,
they need to fire everybody.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Come to the Raiders, Buddy will take you.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Yeah, I've heard that they're doing really well this season,
so maybe I'll consider it.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
The other place that goes up. They're getting their day
kicked in.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
You should be a Bucks fan, bucks Man, you you
fit the Bucks fan profile, and you got a hat.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I already have the hat. Yeah, all right in the shoes.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
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