October 16, 2025 • 26 mins
On the Monsters Attorney "Friendly" Ray Traendly of TK Law discusses divorce rates across the country and the ethics of crowd-funding your divorce.
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I'm rushed with Angel Ryan a friendly Ray Tranlly here
with us today and uh and good scene you Ray
to see you all. You're looking good, still on your
you know, you were talking to Ambernov a little bit
and you're like, you know, you're like me with some things.
You know, you're you're either zero or one hundred. Yes,
And right now you're on your weight loss and you're
on a hundred.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
I'm on a hundred.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Let me yes. Are you driving everybody crazy around you?
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Everybody's crazy around me?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Why is that? So?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I got really big into like this. So I'm doing
the internet fasting thing. So I'm only eating one meal
a day other than like, I have a separate meal plan,
diet plan and and supplement plan for when I'm having lunch,
and I just basically shift my my I won't eat
another for like twenty seven hours.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Uh, so I have this whole interminfasting thing.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
I'm also doing Keto, So I've basically like you know,
Keto's like less than fifty grams of carbohydrates in a day.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
I'm doing like.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Strict Keto, like less than ten grams of carbs in
a day. And so I used to be a fun guy,
right Like Fat Ray likes to bring in bagels.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
And yeah, yeah, Fat Ray is awesome.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Beer is abundant in our fridge.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, you go drink. You got to go on the.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Drink it up. Yeah, none of that anymore. Skinny Ray
is less fun.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
So I had the mental aspect of that, like how
do you keep your mind preoccupied in the process of
a day of just wanting to eat anything.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
That's a great question.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
So I have a cheat sheet for my diet every
single day, and it includes like three affirmations that I
give myself every single day, and then it has my
supplement plan and my nutrition plan and and I have
it all broken down with how many grams of protein I.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Need to eat how many.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Uh, that's got to some hell of affirmations to convince
you not to eat.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
No, and then so here's what I Once you get there, though,
is it Once you get to the spot, then it's
actually it can be fun not to eat, right.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Absolutely, it's it is a competition with myself every single day.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I've been there before, and when you're.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
There, you're like, oh, this is great, but then when
you get sandwiches, you're like, oh, wait a minute, I.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Don't understand what you're saying. Like when I was really
going heavy to hardcore fitness and I was doing following
the diet and I would do my meals and everything.
When you're at that level, it becomes fun because you
can see your body respond to subtle changes, like within
a day.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
It's a while to get there.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
That it's that work to get there.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, that is a pain in the button. How much
weight you lost so far?
Speaker 5 (04:11):
I've lost seventeen pounds as.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Of yesterday, and you're wanting to get down to.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
I want to get down to one hundred and seventy
five pounds.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
I want to lose another eight Oh wow, so I
wanted My goal weight is to stay around one eighty
but I'm going to stay on the keto diet.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
I'm just going to increase the clerk intake.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
From November fifteenth through December fifteenth.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Dish, see how I can bounce that out.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
And I'm going to slowly introduce a little bit of carbohydrates,
so like maybe like less than one hundred grams of
carbs a day.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
What weight class did you wrestle when you wrestle?
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Ooh, when I was in high school, I wrestled at
one hundred and thirty five. Okay, when I went to college,
I dropped all the way down to one hundred and
twenty three pounds.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Oh my god, you were And so here's here's the
threshold I reached.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
So I you know, I'm doing all kinds of crazy stuff,
and I've tried to I've tried to reintroduce like some
of the core powerlifting lifts back into my my daily
routine just to help build some of the bigger muscle groups.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
With this diet. I can't do that. It's too strenuous.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
But I remember, I remember how I felt when I
was that weight, which is why I quit wrestling. I
quit wrestling because I felt weak all the time. I
felt tired all the time. Like I would wrestle and
I'd be exhausted. I literally fall asleep on the mat.
I would just be like, I need to go take
a nap, and so I remember what that's like now
because I don't have carbs feeling me all day long,
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so I don't think I'll ever get anywhere close to that.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
I just want to get lean.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
So are you going to eat?
Speaker 4 (05:44):
I'm I'm going to eat, but again, I'm gonna try
to keep it to the inn mint fasting. I'm going
to immediately go for probably a run because I'm gonna
have carbs by then.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, you're you have a in your office. Then you
say you have like a.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Body used treadmill. I threw a treadmill in the office.
That's dedication, boys, because you.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Know, part of the research I've been doing is just
trying to make sure that you know I'm not dumping
a ton of insulin. Uh, every time I eat one
big meal, because I eat like fifteen hundred calories and
one meal.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
So you're full into it. It's your, it's your, it's
what you're focused on.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
It is what I'm focused on it.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, if you're focused on it.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
And I've got, I've got I've done I think four
trials so far in the last month and a half,
and I've got three more trials before Thanksgiving. And so
that helps because part of what I'm doing is I'm
focusing on I got trial prepperutine that I have to do,
I got to meet with the clients, I got to
all these things. And I'm also focusing on my diet.
So like I'm just laser focused, I'm not a lot
of fun to be around.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Is your wife happy? That's a great question.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
I looks like you just now thought about it.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I've not thought about it for a single moment. All
I'm thinking about is this is what I want to
do determined.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Have you elimited in caffeine as well, or for.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
The most part I have.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I will when I do my three day fast, I
will do a I'll do like a black tea in
the morning just to kind of help keep me going.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
I I got black coffee too, but.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
I'm trying to do black tea mostly for the extra
antioccidentt cetera in it.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
So, So when you do all right, so you you
don't you go for seven hours not eating?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Right?
Speaker 5 (07:28):
I go, I go seventeen hours.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I think he goes okay, seventeen hours not eating. So
when you go to sit down, what does a meal
traditionally look like for you?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Like?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
What like, are you usually just eating four ounces of protein?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (07:42):
He's doing keto, right, Yeah, I'm doing keto.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
So what I'm doing is, uh, I do maybe about
eight ounces of bone broth just to kind of start
sipping on.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
I do not miss keto. I do, and.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Then I do about ten ounces of lean protein and.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Then like an example of one, then the cheese.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
So like I've eat I've been eating a ton of
Greek chicken. I just take that skin off and eat that.
Yesterday I had some Turkish chicken.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
Lots those who don't get along in your ba chicken historically.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
And then I you know, one of the things I
found out because I'm like doing the strict keto, I
can only eat so many almonds usually when I'm on
a diet, like like seven usually when I'm on my diet,
almonds are like my thing. But almonds have a lot
of net carbs. I mean not a lot, but too
many for me, So I can only have like twelve
a day.
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Boy, you're a thrill a minute. We gotta take a break. Yeah,
it's it's a TK law we're talking to. I'm going
to talk about tuaka I find out where you're where
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you're at with the dude.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Okay, yeah that's what I thought too.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Okay, all right, don't take fire makes me think of cooking,
and cooking makes me think of food.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Don't go anywhere. You're listening to the manch of the Morning.
Welcome back. I'm Russ Rollinds along with Angel and Ryan
and Ambernova. We got our buddy friendly Ray Trendley here
from TK law. Uh, before we start talking about the
because I know you got this, I'm really curious about
this marriage and divorce rates across the US and whether
they've they've they've gone up or or gone down or whatever.
But quickly, because you know, we don't have a whole
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lot of time, but tua. Okay, So last week after
they got they lost again. Uh and and basically he
threw three interceptions and I.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Must throw myself off a builder. Yeah is that bad?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah? I didn't think he looked good at all.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
And then so the afterwards they do the press conference
and and he's he calls it and he's you know,
he instead of talking to his you know, he's supposed
to be the leader, instead of talking to them directly,
he airs it out at the press conference. All these
guys are being late and you know, and so that
looks bad. And then he makes a comment about the
fans being a potato chip eating fans, that.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
They can't do what he does.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
He's on keto and I'm like, man, are you trying
to be Is he trying to be a heel?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Is he does?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
He think he's in professional wrestling and he's trying to
be heel now.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
I mean the way he gets slammed down to the
ground because he can't let go of that ball. I
was gonna say something else, but you know, here's the thing.
Nobody's perfect. You have bad days.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Obviously.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
You're you're beating a good team, you have a chance
to win the game, the defense can't make the stop
or even slow them down, and they win the game.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
I mean that that Lad McConkie pass that went for
like thirty five or forty five yards unacceptable. So, like,
the guy's defeated. I get it, he made a mistake.
You know, you never break down your team in public.
That's like the worst thing you can do as a leader. Yeah,
but I think it all starts at the top, right,
the general manager not being a leader, the coach coming
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out half drunk after these post game things because he's.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
So down and depressed.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Was drunk.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
That's what they're That's what they're saying the past game.
They're saying they think that he has a drinking problem.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Again, Well, he has had a drinking problem. He's gone
to alcoholics, and he's been, uh yeah, quite quite open
about it. So this would be if that was accurate,
if that was true, this would be uh that would
be grounds to what they're looking for to fire him.
So there's nothing that lends itself to say that or
anything that says that that's actually what's happening.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Right, and then your star wide receive gets hurt the
week before and he's you know, I don't know, he's
probably not coming back, and so, you know, I.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Think there's a lot of things that are going on
in his toy Kill is never going to play football again.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Yeah, So I think in his mind he just was
at a low place. You know, I forgive the guy.
It happens, but the season's over. Fire everybody, you know,
GM needs to be gone. The head coach needs to
be gone. Honestly, at this point, I I liked you
as a person, and even if he does turn heel,
I don't hate that either, but I think he's got
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to go.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
I think we need to clean start. First start.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Well, they've only won one and they've lost five now.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Right, Yeah, it's gonna be bad. And I've already bought tickets.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I bought tickets before the season started, and they were expensive.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
I could have I literally have searched.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
As you guys were talking about ticket prices for the
Dolphins today, I could have saved myself like seventy five bucks.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
And they're getting tickets Awa, they're giving tickets away anyway.
They're begging, begging people to come to the gate because
there was a.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Half bull last week. So not looking good.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
For so Okay, So the Census Bureau did some marriage
and divorce rates across the US.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
What did they find, Well, would.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
You think that marriage rates are going up or going down?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Right now? Well?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I think going down from what I've seen, from what
I'm married, marriage rates have gone down. I believe people
are deciding not to get married. Is that accurate?
Speaker 4 (12:55):
It is accurate. Yeah, so marriage rates are down across
the country. Even in Florida, marriage rates are down, and so,
uh what we're seeing is that younger generations are not
marrying as much. The older generations who have been divorced
before are not remarrying as quickly.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Yeah, and then.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
You know, in this one for a while, it's really
throwing off the normal race.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
So actually, the Sentence Bureau specifically said, like, we we
have an average for US divorces every decade and so
years though crazy, I know, but they still mark you
down for two for Florida.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, in the past ten years, that's right.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
And so uh so then they looked at national averages
for divorces and uh, I'll just I'll skip the suspense.
Divorce rates across the country are also going down, going down,
are going down, And there's a lot of theories.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I would have said, if you would have asked me,
I would have said they're going up, but they're not.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Yeah, so they're going down nationally. Now what does that
mean for Florida?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Do you guys think Florida is above the trend or
below the trund We are above the trends.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Yeah, we've got more divorce than most other That's right,
that's right. You can change your answer now, you lost bro.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
My initial answer was I thought there were more divorces.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Too many hot people here. You think that's the If.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
You're in Arkansas, you know your your odds are kind
of limited if you're going to the Walmart. But if
you go to if you go to publics here on
just a Wednesday, you're like.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
I will divorce my wife right now. For you, Wow,
I'm just it happened.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
That's a huge especially if you go to certain publics
is around town.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Certain public are known.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
For having hotter people in them than otherwise.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Wait, wait a minute, why would you know you're you
I used to live by a hot you stopped going
there on Friday?
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Well I don't, but I'm saying I used to live
by a hot person.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Public they let you in, Yeah, they let everybody in.
That's okay, gotcha. I mean it's a private it's a private, stylish,
but they don't have to let you in.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
It's so interesting, though, And tell me, tell me if
you feel I don't know why. I've watched a couple
of videos on this and it's it's older women and
they're being in interviewed and they're like, hey, if you
could change one thing about your life, what would it be.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
And they're always like, I would not have gotten married
so young, and I wouldn't have had kids either at
all or so young. And that's like every old lady
was like kind of saying the same answer, where they
all felt they got married too young and didn't get
to live their life. And I think the generations behind
that have heard that, you know what I mean, They're like, oh, well,
I'm not gonna just, you know, get married super young.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
And I don't know if that's a bad thing. I mean,
I took eight years to marry my wife.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Yeah, I you're an idiot for but you know, but
you got to make sure it works now, you know,
like we live in a we live in an age
where it's everybody so fast on their apps and if
something doesn't work.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Out, you're like, I can just go back to the apisope.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
So well, So it's funny you mentioned that story because
what made this data research interesting to me is how
the Census Bureau did this analysis. They didn't measure married
couples by men and women. They only measured women. How
many weddings and marriages women had, and how many wedding
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and divorce how many divorces that women had.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
It's very interesting to me, but I wonder if it's
part of what Ryan's talking about, like as women are
expressing regret over getting married too young or maybe making
the decision have children too young.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
So if they would have done the same study but
just studied men, do you think it would have been
a different outcome.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
I don't know. You know, there's a there was like
a meme that I saw. I know it was a meme.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
It was a it was a clip from a comedian
and it was like, you know, uh, women divorcing women
is like, statistically the highest divorce rate. Women divorcing men
is second, and then men divorcing men is third, And
it's like, what's the common denominator here?
Speaker 5 (16:51):
I don't know if that's I don't know if that's accurate. Jeff,
that was a part of his new routine.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
That was such a good It was a good bit.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Yeah, it really was. It really was. Is the same
sex divorce harder?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
As that?
Speaker 5 (17:05):
For you being the lawyer? Is it is it more difficult?
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Is there something else involved that would make it more
or less difficult.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
So the only thing that I've had, like from the
same sex divorce that became really unique and difficult was
a wife and a wife purchased eggs for a surrogacy,
and we had to fight over who got the.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Eggs then do like half and half, well you get three,
you get three.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Uh so that they didn't want to do that, and
there's anyway, there's a lot to it, but it was
like it was one of the wives. It was her
sister's eggs, but the other wife was the one who's
supposed to bear them, and uh and it was a
big fight over, like, well, you're just going to destroy.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Them anyway, So who end up getting them? On my client?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Did he?
Speaker 5 (17:52):
I win? I always win.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yours did, and yours didn't have the sister.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
No I had. I had the the I don't have one.
Who's going to bear them? Yeah? And so uh yeah
we want but you know.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
So she won the eggs and it was our sister's eggs.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
It was her wife's sister's eggs.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Damn, you are the man. Yeah, and now you pulled
that off because I would to give him to the
if that's family family, they can keep eggs.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Yeah, And I think what I did was we brought
in the sister and said, hey, how would you want
to see your eggs used?
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I mean, you had to go through this whole thing.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
It was like twelve months of diet, a hell for
her to kind of, you know, be healthy and be
able to anyway, it was a whole thing. And I said,
your family can live on this way. And we made
the pitch to the sister. We used some some.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Legal maneuvering, and overall we won. And that's all it
really matters. We crushed them. You are just vicious. I'm
really not. Here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
I genuinely care about my clients and I genuinely want
them to win. And so you know, sometimes I have
a hard time losing, and I'm a sore loser because
of that. But yeah, no, but yeah, I thought I
just thought it was interesting how they took this data.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
But you don't get hungry while they was talking about eggs.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I did not get hut.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Over easy or can you stick around with this other story?
You got one more story? Yeah? Do it?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Okay, got one more story with a friendly ray trainlely
tk law. If you are going through divorce. If you
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With TK Law, you don't just hire an attorney, You
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Right, Sure, that's what I heard. Yeah, that's what I heard.
All right, don't go anywhere. You're listening with the match
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By the way, if you if you need him, that's
the man you need to call. So what's this the
crowd funding coworkers divorce?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Ye?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Tell me?
Speaker 4 (19:48):
More So, I read an article on the New Yorker.
It was published on I think it was Friday, mab
his Monday, and it was the ethics of crowdfunding your divorce.
So what the what crowdfunding is is like gofund me
or one of these you know these websites where you
can ask people for money towards the cause.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
And this co worker, actually this supervisor, had done a
a gofund me for his divorce. He's like, I need
money to fight my wife for divorce, and so he
sent it out to all of his coworkers and including
the people that are subordinate underneath him.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
And the question was are you.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Obligated to crowdfund and support your divorce?
Speaker 2 (20:30):
It doesn't seem especially Actually you like to ask for
people who you consider under you to help you with
your divorce.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I don't know some of the conflict, right, it seems.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
Like a problem wouldn't be Like, because if you're in
a marriage, how does it work, Like because you both
are entitled to the money, does that stop as you
kind of as you get the divorce?
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Yeah, so, uh, who you to be funding herd two
or two lines? Date of marriage, date you follow divorce.
Everything in between is marital. Everything after the divorce is
filed is non marital.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Oh really?
Speaker 4 (21:04):
And so after the divorce was filed you could crowdfund
and that all becomes your money now, you know, you
bring up a good point because the court can still
consider whatever resources you have available to you, even non
marital assets, in determining alimony and supporting things like that,
showing a lawyer you should.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
How is an employer let that happen? Also, like if
if it's my company and one of my leads, one
of my you know, managers, has to set up a
GoFundMe to hit up his get up as divorce, and
then and then he shared it with everyone that's underneath him,
all the subordinates.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
That's gotta that can't be cool. But it's every everybody
who's a grown adult. It's your You make your decision
whether you're going to do it or not. You don't
have to do it.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
But I'm saying as far as work policy, yeah, our
policy here. Hey, you want to share a gofund me
because it's a charitable thing or whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Cool.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
You want to share a gofund me because of you know,
some tragedy in the community. Cool, But you want to
share gofund me that you're one of my executives and
you're giving it to the underlings to help fund that.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Nah, we're not.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
That's probably where I would draw the line.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Yes, So, I mean the ethic goal recommendation was that
it's it's completely unethical. But it brings up a really
interesting idea, right, because I think Angel hit the nail
on the head, right. It's this pressure, uh for your
underlings to cooperate and contribute and and I do use
do you use example Russ like? So just imagine like
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your nastiest, most expensive divorce.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
I remember, just picture that one.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah, I got that one talking about not for nothing.
I remember that one. I would have kicked down for
that one. See a lot of a lot of my
friends would have. But then but then at that point,
if I kicked down for that one, I want Jimmy's chair.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Jimmy did it helps, I would move.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
So that was exactly what I was gonna say. So
then somebody else is like, yeah, you know what else,
that's that's your problem and I'm not gonna help you
out with it.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
And then you're like, well, well, you know when it
comes time to Christmas, bonus for you? Yeah, yeah, and
so uh so.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
That's a problem. You can't you can't sound.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
But here's what makes it different than Girl Scout cookies
when they make me buy that stuff and like it's
the head of the company and they're like, buy some smoas.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
But right, what okay, what if someone does the crowdfunding
for h for divorce but they but they just put
it up for all their friends, but they don't make
it available for their co workers and all that.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Well, and that's what I was gonna say, is I've
actually had that scenario happen relatively recently within the last month,
where uh, there's a lot of very complex business issues
that is unfortunately gonna make this divorce very expensive, and
the husband is not a good person, and so I
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know we're gonna win and we're gonna destroy them, but
just there's a lot of business valuations.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
All have experts we have to hire, and so she
did that.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
She kind of crowdfunded her experts, and she sends out
to family and friends and everybody's kind of pitching and supporting.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
I think that's perfectly okay.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
You know where where I, as a lawyer have kind
of drawn the line and says like, listen, you got
to tell people just because they're crowdfunding doesn't mean I'm
their lawyer. Like they can't call me and say, hey,
what's going on with the case just because they contributed
money to this cause right, like, you're still my client.
They need to ask you for that stuff because I've
done it once before. And then the family friends kind
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of like, hey, what are you spending the money on?
And it's like, it's not your business. You got to
talk to the client.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
What's a good divorce cost? These days? I mean, most.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Divorces, you're probably looking at less than ten thousand dollars.
And that's That's not to say ten thousand dollars is
a little bit of money, but I mean when you're
looking at the average, statistical average of cases that are
are long and drawn out, and also the ones that
are short and quick, you probably get less than ten grand.
There's always the possibility of one that's more than that,
but usually you're talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars,
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if not millions of dollars that are you know, gonna
be in dispute because if the.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Cost doesn't weigh of benefits.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
Our most divorce is short.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Short is relative.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
In my mind, three to six months is relatively short
for somebody going through a divorce, which is one of
the most traumatic and painful things in their life.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
They'd probably argue that it's not short enough. Yeah, how
does it affect your credit?
Speaker 6 (25:29):
I always hear that, now that I have good credit,
I care about credit, Like how they gave you good credit?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
In me?
Speaker 5 (25:34):
I did it? But how does it actually affect your credit?
Is it divorce reported to a credit bureau?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
No, it's not like it's not like a judgment or
anything like that where it's reported to a credit bureau.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
So it's not a bankruptcy. It's not like a bankruptcy.
Yeah no, it's not.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Okay, hey, listen, thank you so much for coming in.
We appreciate it. You got to take a little bit
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Speaker 3 (00:23):
You're loosely affiliated with the station for quite some time now.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
That is what Melinda said. I've never assumed that before.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
So I guess her dad and Jimmy at one point
worked together where when he had I guess when he
owned the print company, Yeah, print shop company. And then
uh really yeah, and then uh's he said he.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Met me before. Okay, maybe that's why, Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
And then she's the one that sang Barracuda with Jimmy
playing the guitar, is what they're saying here.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Yes, so he he's a screen printing client of Jimmy's
way back in the day when you guys first started up. Yeah,
and he had he'd make those flower pots, those little
plastic flower pots. That was his business and so I
did flyers and banners and I talked to him for
a while.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
He's a really nice guy.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Well, she was great, great talented.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It was awesome talented and uh, I met her to
come back in and she wants to another song sometime,
and she said she'd love to.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Locally if you if you want to check her live
show out, She's doing a show at the Imperial Washburn Imports.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, I love the very nice brought from back by
the way.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I'm rushed with Angel Ryan a friendly Ray Tranlly here
with us today and uh and good scene you Ray
to see you all. You're looking good, still on your
you know, you were talking to Ambernov a little bit
and you're like, you know, you're like me with some things.
You know, you're you're either zero or one hundred. Yes,
And right now you're on your weight loss and you're
on a hundred.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
I'm on a hundred.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Let me yes. Are you driving everybody crazy around you?
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Everybody's crazy around me?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Why is that? So?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I got really big into like this. So I'm doing
the internet fasting thing. So I'm only eating one meal
a day other than like, I have a separate meal plan,
diet plan and and supplement plan for when I'm having lunch,
and I just basically shift my my I won't eat
another for like twenty seven hours.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Uh, so I have this whole interminfasting thing.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
I'm also doing Keto, So I've basically like you know,
Keto's like less than fifty grams of carbohydrates in a day.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
I'm doing like.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Strict Keto, like less than ten grams of carbs in
a day. And so I used to be a fun guy,
right Like Fat Ray likes to bring in bagels.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
And yeah, yeah, Fat Ray is awesome.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Beer is abundant in our fridge.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, you go drink. You got to go on the.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Drink it up. Yeah, none of that anymore. Skinny Ray
is less fun.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
So I had the mental aspect of that, like how
do you keep your mind preoccupied in the process of
a day of just wanting to eat anything.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
That's a great question.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
So I have a cheat sheet for my diet every
single day, and it includes like three affirmations that I
give myself every single day, and then it has my
supplement plan and my nutrition plan and and I have
it all broken down with how many grams of protein I.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Need to eat how many.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Uh, that's got to some hell of affirmations to convince
you not to eat.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
No, and then so here's what I Once you get there, though,
is it Once you get to the spot, then it's
actually it can be fun not to eat, right.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Absolutely, it's it is a competition with myself every single day.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I've been there before, and when you're.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
There, you're like, oh, this is great, but then when
you get sandwiches, you're like, oh, wait a minute, I.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Don't understand what you're saying. Like when I was really
going heavy to hardcore fitness and I was doing following
the diet and I would do my meals and everything.
When you're at that level, it becomes fun because you
can see your body respond to subtle changes, like within
a day.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
It's a while to get there.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
That it's that work to get there.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, that is a pain in the button. How much
weight you lost so far?
Speaker 5 (04:11):
I've lost seventeen pounds as.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Of yesterday, and you're wanting to get down to.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
I want to get down to one hundred and seventy
five pounds.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
I want to lose another eight Oh wow, so I
wanted My goal weight is to stay around one eighty
but I'm going to stay on the keto diet.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
I'm just going to increase the clerk intake.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
From November fifteenth through December fifteenth.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Dish, see how I can bounce that out.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
And I'm going to slowly introduce a little bit of carbohydrates,
so like maybe like less than one hundred grams of
carbs a day.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
What weight class did you wrestle when you wrestle?
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Ooh, when I was in high school, I wrestled at
one hundred and thirty five. Okay, when I went to college,
I dropped all the way down to one hundred and
twenty three pounds.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Oh my god, you were And so here's here's the
threshold I reached.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
So I you know, I'm doing all kinds of crazy stuff,
and I've tried to I've tried to reintroduce like some
of the core powerlifting lifts back into my my daily
routine just to help build some of the bigger muscle groups.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
With this diet. I can't do that. It's too strenuous.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
But I remember, I remember how I felt when I
was that weight, which is why I quit wrestling. I
quit wrestling because I felt weak all the time. I
felt tired all the time. Like I would wrestle and
I'd be exhausted. I literally fall asleep on the mat.
I would just be like, I need to go take
a nap, and so I remember what that's like now
because I don't have carbs feeling me all day long,
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so I don't think I'll ever get anywhere close to that.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
I just want to get lean.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
So are you going to eat?
Speaker 4 (05:44):
I'm I'm going to eat, but again, I'm gonna try
to keep it to the inn mint fasting. I'm going
to immediately go for probably a run because I'm gonna
have carbs by then.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, you're you have a in your office. Then you
say you have like a.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Body used treadmill. I threw a treadmill in the office.
That's dedication, boys, because you.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Know, part of the research I've been doing is just
trying to make sure that you know I'm not dumping
a ton of insulin. Uh, every time I eat one
big meal, because I eat like fifteen hundred calories and
one meal.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
So you're full into it. It's your, it's your, it's
what you're focused on.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
It is what I'm focused on it.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, if you're focused on it.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
And I've got, I've got I've done I think four
trials so far in the last month and a half,
and I've got three more trials before Thanksgiving. And so
that helps because part of what I'm doing is I'm
focusing on I got trial prepperutine that I have to do,
I got to meet with the clients, I got to
all these things. And I'm also focusing on my diet.
So like I'm just laser focused, I'm not a lot
of fun to be around.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Is your wife happy? That's a great question.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
I looks like you just now thought about it.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I've not thought about it for a single moment. All
I'm thinking about is this is what I want to
do determined.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Have you elimited in caffeine as well, or for.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
The most part I have.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I will when I do my three day fast, I
will do a I'll do like a black tea in
the morning just to kind of help keep me going.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
I I got black coffee too, but.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
I'm trying to do black tea mostly for the extra
antioccidentt cetera in it.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
So, So when you do all right, so you you
don't you go for seven hours not eating?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Right?
Speaker 5 (07:28):
I go, I go seventeen hours.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I think he goes okay, seventeen hours not eating. So
when you go to sit down, what does a meal
traditionally look like for you?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Like?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
What like, are you usually just eating four ounces of protein?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (07:42):
He's doing keto, right, Yeah, I'm doing keto.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
So what I'm doing is, uh, I do maybe about
eight ounces of bone broth just to kind of start
sipping on.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
I do not miss keto. I do, and.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Then I do about ten ounces of lean protein and.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Then like an example of one, then the cheese.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
So like I've eat I've been eating a ton of
Greek chicken. I just take that skin off and eat that.
Yesterday I had some Turkish chicken.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
Lots those who don't get along in your ba chicken historically.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
And then I you know, one of the things I
found out because I'm like doing the strict keto, I
can only eat so many almonds usually when I'm on
a diet, like like seven usually when I'm on my diet,
almonds are like my thing. But almonds have a lot
of net carbs. I mean not a lot, but too
many for me, So I can only have like twelve
a day.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Boy, you're a thrill a minute. We gotta take a break. Yeah,
it's it's a TK law we're talking to. I'm going
to talk about tuaka I find out where you're where
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you're at with the dude.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Okay, yeah that's what I thought too.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Okay, all right, don't take fire makes me think of cooking,
and cooking makes me think of food.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Don't go anywhere. You're listening to the manch of the Morning.
Welcome back. I'm Russ Rollinds along with Angel and Ryan
and Ambernova. We got our buddy friendly Ray Trendley here
from TK law. Uh, before we start talking about the
because I know you got this, I'm really curious about
this marriage and divorce rates across the US and whether
they've they've they've gone up or or gone down or whatever.
But quickly, because you know, we don't have a whole
(09:27):
lot of time, but tua. Okay, So last week after
they got they lost again. Uh and and basically he
threw three interceptions and I.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Must throw myself off a builder. Yeah is that bad?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah? I didn't think he looked good at all.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
And then so the afterwards they do the press conference
and and he's he calls it and he's you know,
he instead of talking to his you know, he's supposed
to be the leader, instead of talking to them directly,
he airs it out at the press conference. All these
guys are being late and you know, and so that
looks bad. And then he makes a comment about the
fans being a potato chip eating fans, that.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
They can't do what he does.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
He's on keto and I'm like, man, are you trying
to be Is he trying to be a heel?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Is he does?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
He think he's in professional wrestling and he's trying to
be heel now.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
I mean the way he gets slammed down to the
ground because he can't let go of that ball. I
was gonna say something else, but you know, here's the thing.
Nobody's perfect. You have bad days.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Obviously.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
You're you're beating a good team, you have a chance
to win the game, the defense can't make the stop
or even slow them down, and they win the game.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
I mean that that Lad McConkie pass that went for
like thirty five or forty five yards unacceptable. So, like,
the guy's defeated. I get it, he made a mistake.
You know, you never break down your team in public.
That's like the worst thing you can do as a leader. Yeah,
but I think it all starts at the top, right,
the general manager not being a leader, the coach coming
(10:59):
out half drunk after these post game things because he's.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
So down and depressed.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Was drunk.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
That's what they're That's what they're saying the past game.
They're saying they think that he has a drinking problem.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Again, Well, he has had a drinking problem. He's gone
to alcoholics, and he's been, uh yeah, quite quite open
about it. So this would be if that was accurate,
if that was true, this would be uh that would
be grounds to what they're looking for to fire him.
So there's nothing that lends itself to say that or
anything that says that that's actually what's happening.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Right, and then your star wide receive gets hurt the
week before and he's you know, I don't know, he's
probably not coming back, and so, you know, I.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Think there's a lot of things that are going on
in his toy Kill is never going to play football again.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Yeah, So I think in his mind he just was
at a low place. You know, I forgive the guy.
It happens, but the season's over. Fire everybody, you know,
GM needs to be gone. The head coach needs to
be gone. Honestly, at this point, I I liked you
as a person, and even if he does turn heel,
I don't hate that either, but I think he's got
(12:05):
to go.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
I think we need to clean start. First start.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Well, they've only won one and they've lost five now.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Right, Yeah, it's gonna be bad. And I've already bought tickets.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I bought tickets before the season started, and they were expensive.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
I could have I literally have searched.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
As you guys were talking about ticket prices for the
Dolphins today, I could have saved myself like seventy five bucks.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
And they're getting tickets Awa, they're giving tickets away anyway.
They're begging, begging people to come to the gate because
there was a.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Half bull last week. So not looking good.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
For so Okay, So the Census Bureau did some marriage
and divorce rates across the US.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
What did they find, Well, would.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
You think that marriage rates are going up or going down?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Right now? Well?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I think going down from what I've seen, from what
I'm married, marriage rates have gone down. I believe people
are deciding not to get married. Is that accurate?
Speaker 4 (12:55):
It is accurate. Yeah, so marriage rates are down across
the country. Even in Florida, marriage rates are down, and so,
uh what we're seeing is that younger generations are not
marrying as much. The older generations who have been divorced
before are not remarrying as quickly.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Yeah, and then.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
You know, in this one for a while, it's really
throwing off the normal race.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
So actually, the Sentence Bureau specifically said, like, we we
have an average for US divorces every decade and so
years though crazy, I know, but they still mark you
down for two for Florida.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, in the past ten years, that's right.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
And so uh so then they looked at national averages
for divorces and uh, I'll just I'll skip the suspense.
Divorce rates across the country are also going down, going down,
are going down, And there's a lot of theories.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I would have said, if you would have asked me,
I would have said they're going up, but they're not.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Yeah, so they're going down nationally. Now what does that
mean for Florida?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Do you guys think Florida is above the trend or
below the trund We are above the trends.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Yeah, we've got more divorce than most other That's right,
that's right. You can change your answer now, you lost bro.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
My initial answer was I thought there were more divorces.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Too many hot people here. You think that's the If.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
You're in Arkansas, you know your your odds are kind
of limited if you're going to the Walmart. But if
you go to if you go to publics here on
just a Wednesday, you're like.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
I will divorce my wife right now. For you, Wow,
I'm just it happened.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
That's a huge especially if you go to certain publics
is around town.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Certain public are known.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
For having hotter people in them than otherwise.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Wait, wait a minute, why would you know you're you
I used to live by a hot you stopped going
there on Friday?
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Well I don't, but I'm saying I used to live
by a hot person.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Public they let you in, Yeah, they let everybody in.
That's okay, gotcha. I mean it's a private it's a private, stylish,
but they don't have to let you in.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
It's so interesting, though, And tell me, tell me if
you feel I don't know why. I've watched a couple
of videos on this and it's it's older women and
they're being in interviewed and they're like, hey, if you
could change one thing about your life, what would it be.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
And they're always like, I would not have gotten married
so young, and I wouldn't have had kids either at
all or so young. And that's like every old lady
was like kind of saying the same answer, where they
all felt they got married too young and didn't get
to live their life. And I think the generations behind
that have heard that, you know what I mean, They're like, oh, well,
I'm not gonna just, you know, get married super young.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
And I don't know if that's a bad thing. I mean,
I took eight years to marry my wife.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Yeah, I you're an idiot for but you know, but
you got to make sure it works now, you know,
like we live in a we live in an age
where it's everybody so fast on their apps and if
something doesn't work.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Out, you're like, I can just go back to the apisope.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
So well, So it's funny you mentioned that story because
what made this data research interesting to me is how
the Census Bureau did this analysis. They didn't measure married
couples by men and women. They only measured women. How
many weddings and marriages women had, and how many wedding
(16:07):
and divorce how many divorces that women had.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
It's very interesting to me, but I wonder if it's
part of what Ryan's talking about, like as women are
expressing regret over getting married too young or maybe making
the decision have children too young.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
So if they would have done the same study but
just studied men, do you think it would have been
a different outcome.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
I don't know. You know, there's a there was like
a meme that I saw. I know it was a meme.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
It was a it was a clip from a comedian
and it was like, you know, uh, women divorcing women
is like, statistically the highest divorce rate. Women divorcing men
is second, and then men divorcing men is third, And
it's like, what's the common denominator here?
Speaker 5 (16:51):
I don't know if that's I don't know if that's accurate. Jeff,
that was a part of his new routine.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
That was such a good It was a good bit.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Yeah, it really was. It really was. Is the same
sex divorce harder?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
As that?
Speaker 5 (17:05):
For you being the lawyer? Is it is it more difficult?
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Is there something else involved that would make it more
or less difficult.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
So the only thing that I've had, like from the
same sex divorce that became really unique and difficult was
a wife and a wife purchased eggs for a surrogacy,
and we had to fight over who got the.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Eggs then do like half and half, well you get three,
you get three.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Uh so that they didn't want to do that, and
there's anyway, there's a lot to it, but it was
like it was one of the wives. It was her
sister's eggs, but the other wife was the one who's
supposed to bear them, and uh and it was a
big fight over, like, well, you're just going to destroy.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Them anyway, So who end up getting them? On my client?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Did he?
Speaker 5 (17:52):
I win? I always win.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yours did, and yours didn't have the sister.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
No I had. I had the the I don't have one.
Who's going to bear them? Yeah? And so uh yeah
we want but you know.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
So she won the eggs and it was our sister's eggs.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
It was her wife's sister's eggs.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Damn, you are the man. Yeah, and now you pulled
that off because I would to give him to the
if that's family family, they can keep eggs.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Yeah, And I think what I did was we brought
in the sister and said, hey, how would you want
to see your eggs used?
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I mean, you had to go through this whole thing.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
It was like twelve months of diet, a hell for
her to kind of, you know, be healthy and be
able to anyway, it was a whole thing. And I said,
your family can live on this way. And we made
the pitch to the sister. We used some some.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Legal maneuvering, and overall we won. And that's all it
really matters. We crushed them. You are just vicious. I'm
really not. Here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
I genuinely care about my clients and I genuinely want
them to win. And so you know, sometimes I have
a hard time losing, and I'm a sore loser because
of that. But yeah, no, but yeah, I thought I
just thought it was interesting how they took this data.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
But you don't get hungry while they was talking about eggs.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I did not get hut.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Over easy or can you stick around with this other story?
You got one more story? Yeah? Do it?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
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Speaker 6 (19:28):
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hire an entire team fighting for your fresh start.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Right, Sure, that's what I heard. Yeah, that's what I heard.
All right, don't go anywhere. You're listening with the match
of the morning. Back to friendly Ray Tranley TK Law.
By the way, if you if you need him, that's
the man you need to call. So what's this the
crowd funding coworkers divorce?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Ye?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Tell me?
Speaker 4 (19:48):
More So, I read an article on the New Yorker.
It was published on I think it was Friday, mab
his Monday, and it was the ethics of crowdfunding your divorce.
So what the what crowdfunding is is like gofund me
or one of these you know these websites where you
can ask people for money towards the cause.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
And this co worker, actually this supervisor, had done a
a gofund me for his divorce. He's like, I need
money to fight my wife for divorce, and so he
sent it out to all of his coworkers and including
the people that are subordinate underneath him.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
And the question was are you.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Obligated to crowdfund and support your divorce?
Speaker 2 (20:30):
It doesn't seem especially Actually you like to ask for
people who you consider under you to help you with
your divorce.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I don't know some of the conflict, right, it seems.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
Like a problem wouldn't be Like, because if you're in
a marriage, how does it work, Like because you both
are entitled to the money, does that stop as you
kind of as you get the divorce?
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Yeah, so, uh, who you to be funding herd two
or two lines? Date of marriage, date you follow divorce.
Everything in between is marital. Everything after the divorce is
filed is non marital.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Oh really?
Speaker 4 (21:04):
And so after the divorce was filed you could crowdfund
and that all becomes your money now, you know, you
bring up a good point because the court can still
consider whatever resources you have available to you, even non
marital assets, in determining alimony and supporting things like that,
showing a lawyer you should.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
How is an employer let that happen? Also, like if
if it's my company and one of my leads, one
of my you know, managers, has to set up a
GoFundMe to hit up his get up as divorce, and
then and then he shared it with everyone that's underneath him,
all the subordinates.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
That's gotta that can't be cool. But it's every everybody
who's a grown adult. It's your You make your decision
whether you're going to do it or not. You don't
have to do it.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
But I'm saying as far as work policy, yeah, our
policy here. Hey, you want to share a gofund me
because it's a charitable thing or whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Cool.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
You want to share a gofund me because of you know,
some tragedy in the community. Cool, But you want to
share gofund me that you're one of my executives and
you're giving it to the underlings to help fund that.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Nah, we're not.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
That's probably where I would draw the line.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Yes, So, I mean the ethic goal recommendation was that
it's it's completely unethical. But it brings up a really
interesting idea, right, because I think Angel hit the nail
on the head, right. It's this pressure, uh for your
underlings to cooperate and contribute and and I do use
do you use example Russ like? So just imagine like
(22:33):
your nastiest, most expensive divorce.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
I remember, just picture that one.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah, I got that one talking about not for nothing.
I remember that one. I would have kicked down for
that one. See a lot of a lot of my
friends would have. But then but then at that point,
if I kicked down for that one, I want Jimmy's chair.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Jimmy did it helps, I would move.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
So that was exactly what I was gonna say. So
then somebody else is like, yeah, you know what else,
that's that's your problem and I'm not gonna help you
out with it.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
And then you're like, well, well, you know when it
comes time to Christmas, bonus for you? Yeah, yeah, and
so uh so.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
That's a problem. You can't you can't sound.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
But here's what makes it different than Girl Scout cookies
when they make me buy that stuff and like it's
the head of the company and they're like, buy some smoas.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
But right, what okay, what if someone does the crowdfunding
for h for divorce but they but they just put
it up for all their friends, but they don't make
it available for their co workers and all that.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Well, and that's what I was gonna say, is I've
actually had that scenario happen relatively recently within the last month,
where uh, there's a lot of very complex business issues
that is unfortunately gonna make this divorce very expensive, and
the husband is not a good person, and so I
(23:55):
know we're gonna win and we're gonna destroy them, but
just there's a lot of business valuations.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
All have experts we have to hire, and so she
did that.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
She kind of crowdfunded her experts, and she sends out
to family and friends and everybody's kind of pitching and supporting.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
I think that's perfectly okay.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
You know where where I, as a lawyer have kind
of drawn the line and says like, listen, you got
to tell people just because they're crowdfunding doesn't mean I'm
their lawyer. Like they can't call me and say, hey,
what's going on with the case just because they contributed
money to this cause right, like, you're still my client.
They need to ask you for that stuff because I've
done it once before. And then the family friends kind
(24:33):
of like, hey, what are you spending the money on?
And it's like, it's not your business. You got to
talk to the client.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
What's a good divorce cost? These days? I mean, most.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Divorces, you're probably looking at less than ten thousand dollars.
And that's That's not to say ten thousand dollars is
a little bit of money, but I mean when you're
looking at the average, statistical average of cases that are
are long and drawn out, and also the ones that
are short and quick, you probably get less than ten grand.
There's always the possibility of one that's more than that,
but usually you're talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars,
(25:02):
if not millions of dollars that are you know, gonna
be in dispute because if the.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Cost doesn't weigh of benefits.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
Our most divorce is short.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Short is relative.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
In my mind, three to six months is relatively short
for somebody going through a divorce, which is one of
the most traumatic and painful things in their life.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
They'd probably argue that it's not short enough. Yeah, how
does it affect your credit?
Speaker 6 (25:29):
I always hear that, now that I have good credit,
I care about credit, Like how they gave you good credit?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
In me?
Speaker 5 (25:34):
I did it? But how does it actually affect your credit?
Is it divorce reported to a credit bureau?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
No, it's not like it's not like a judgment or
anything like that where it's reported to a credit bureau.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
So it's not a bankruptcy. It's not like a bankruptcy.
Yeah no, it's not.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Okay, hey, listen, thank you so much for coming in.
We appreciate it. You got to take a little bit
of a break when we come back the This is
like the anniversary of the obviously the Halloween movie, big
big movie, and it's gonna be in the theaters again,
and one of the actresses from the movie is gonna
be with us when we come back, So don't go anywhere.
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