Episode 612 - Mysterious Murdered Hitchhiker / Sherri Herrera / Christmas Night Shooting

Case #1 – August 30th, 1992, a woman was found hidden under some brush along highway 95 just north of Blythe, CA. Her body was mummified and severely decomposed. In 1994, a long-haul trucker admitted to killing the woman and a number of other women. He was nicknamed the ‘Happy Face Killer’. We speak with an investigator from the Riverside County District Attorney’s Office who is asking for help to identify the murdered woman from 1992; Case #2 – The partially clothed body of Sherri Herrera was found near a freeway onramp east of Palm Springs. She was known as a prostitute who frequented truck stops. Investigators use forensic Genealogy to form a suspect profile; Case #3 – On Christmas night of 2016, 3 men approached a car in the city of Riverside and opened fire. Miraculously, the driver and her companion escaped. New surveillance video was released.

Episode Transcript

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You're listening to KFI AM six fortyon demand, KFI AM six forty live
everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Onany given day in southern California, hundreds

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of investigators are working more than tenthousand unsolved cases. That's thousands of friends
and families who have lost loved ones, thousands of people who got away with
a crime, and thousands of murdererswho still walk the streets. Killers who
may be your neighbor, go toyour church, or could be dating a
close friend. For the next twohours will highlight cases that have gone cold,

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baffled investigators, or just needs thatone witness to speak out. This
is unsolved with Steve Gregory, RiversideCounty District Attorney, cold case number ri
IF one five to two four zerotwo a murdered Jane Doe. The Riverside

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County DA announced it had some evidenceto get them closer to the identity of
a woman who was killed in theearly nineties and left buried under brush and
shrubbery off Highway ninety five near BlytheIn twenty ten, that woman's killer was
convicted. In fact, Keith HunterJesperson, also known as the Happy Face
Killer, confessed to the murder alongwith many others, but to this day,

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the woman he brutally killed and leftnear Blythe has remained unidentified. So
we headed out to the Riverside CountyDA's office where we spoke with senior investigator
Ebony Cavanis about the mysterious murdered hitchhighSo in August August thirtieth of nineteen ninety
two, an unidentified female body waslocated in off the highway ninety five,

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seven miles north of the city ofBlythe. At the time, the body
was in moderate to severe decomposation.We had no leads regarding that case,
and at the time the autopsy determinedthat the cause of death was undetermined.
So fast forward from nineteen ninety twoto nineteen ninety four, a reporter from

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the Oregonian newspaper received a letter froman anonymous writer who claims to have murdered
the woman that we found in Blythealong with four other women. So in
that letter, he confessed to vetteringfive women and he signed the letter with

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a happy face, and that's whenhe was deemed the happy Face killer at
that point. So in nineteen ninetyfive, Clark County Sheriff's Department from Vancouver,
Washington arrested Jessperson for the murder ofanother woman. He confessed to that
murder and also said he killed atotal of eight women at that time,

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one of them being the body thatwe found in Blyth. So in nineteen
ninety six, Riverside Sheriff Investigator RichMassan and Sergeant Rich dollar Hide went to
sale in penitentiary to interview Jessperson,and during the interview he gave us information

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that coincided to the physical description ofthe female, the placement of her body,
the crime scene, the location,and with all of that information were
able to convict him January twenty tenfor that Riverside homicide, in which he
was sentenced to twenty five years tolife, serving that time in Oregon.

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At this point, though, themissing part of this puzzle is you still
don't have an identity the woman,do you. We do not, and
that's what we've been working very hardon trying to do. At this point,
we have no name or who shewas. She had no identification on
her, and nothing has come upto even help us with her identification whatsoever,
other than submitting her DNA to familyTree and creating a family tree within

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that website is a directed to consumerwebsite, and we were able to find
some possible paternal relatives of hers,but they don't know who she is.
They have no name for her,and didn't know that they had a sibling
that was missing. So now we'reworking on contacting the maternal side of the
family. And that's why we're reachingout to the public because if anyone has

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any information regarding this homicide or maybethere's some similarities in a missing relative that
they had, that they can reachout to us and provide us with some
type of information. Did jesperson indicateat all who she might have been or
did he ever have a name forher? He called her Claudia, but
that possibly is not her name.He said that she gave him the name

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of Claudia, but when we reinterviewedhim in twenty twenty three, he said
that may have not been her name. So he did provide us with a
physical description of her, which definitelyhelped out when we had to do the
phenoe typing and the sketches, Sothat was kind of the help that we
got from him. He also wasable to clarify a few things regarding the

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murder, like maybe her lifestyle,her demeanor, the clothing. He verified
a few of the sketches that wehad, but other than a physical description,
a timeline, and a possible name, he wasn't able to provide us
with much else. With your experience, he apparently gave you enough information that

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you were able to file the chargesagainst him and get him convicted of the
murder of this woman, right,correct, Yes, But do you believe
he's being truthful that he doesn't remembermuch about her beyond that, or do
you think or do you think he'sholding back because sometimes serial killers like to
hold stuff back. They do.I agree with you, there's no way

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to determine if he's being truthful ornot. But he was so detailed regarding
the murder itself and the crime sceneand her physical description when we found her,
including her clothing, that we dobelieve some of the things he's saying
is truthful. Also, his trucklogs and fuel receipts show he was in
the area during that time. Sotalk about jess Person, What is it

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he did and who was he?So? Keith Hunter. Jesperson was a
serial killer who killed women in Oregon, Washington, California, and Florida.
So he states that he sometime thesummer of nineteen ninety two, which we

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were able to determine that it wasAugust of nineteen ninety two. He said
that he was in a break checkarea conducting brake adjustments for a long haul
truck that he drives. So atthe time he was a long haul truck
driver and he drove a nineteen eightynine purple Peterbilt long haul truck. He

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said that he was in a breakcheck area off the Eye or Interstate fifteen
South near the Cohoone Pass in theVictorville area. While he was working under
his truck, he says he hearsa woman's voice approach him and ask for
a ride. Once he agrees togive her ride, he says that she
waves to a man in a Alberson'struck who takes off, so he agrees

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to take her for a ride.She wants to go to the Los Angeles
area, and he said she's veryadamant about it, and her familiarity with
the different freeways in LA made himbelieve that she was familiar with the area.
Also too, he said he doesn'tknow very many Albersons that are in

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that area, so he believes shemay have come from the Vegas or the
Barstow area, so he agrees togive her a ride at that truck stop.
He says, I have a longhaul delivery. I have to deliver
in Phoenix at a specific time.I can't take it to LA but I
can take you to Cabazon. Sothey get in the truck, they drive
to Cabazon. They continue I teneastbound, stop at Cabazon for a brief

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period of time, he gasses up, does some adjustments to his truck.
She decides she wants to continue onto India. Okay, so before we
go any further there, we needto stop take a break. When we
come back, we'll talk more aboutthis unknown Jane Doe in Riverside County with
Ebony cavinists. But first, thisis unsolved with Steve Gregory on kf I

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AM six forty k I AM sixforty live and on demand on the iHeartRadio
app. This is unsolved with SteveGregory. Welcome back. Right inside the
Riverside County District Attorney's Office downtown Riverside. We're talking with Ebany Kevinis She is
a senior investigator with the DA's officehere talking to us about a case from

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nineteen ninety two involving a woman whowas murdered and to this day her identity
is unknown, but the killer isbehind bars. Correct? Is that unusual
epony that you usually that you canconvict somebody of murder when the person the

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victim is unknown. Even the victimis unknown, there is still a homicide
that occurred, So they very wellcould be convicted for the homicide. And
we have a Jane Doe or JohnDoe victim. Our job is to even
despite the conviction, our job isto at least try to get them identified
so their family would have an ideaof what happened to them and that they

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can have some closure. Did youever get to interview Jesperson. I did,
Yes, I interviewed him in twentytwenty three, middle of twenty twenty
three. Okay, I want togo there, but I want to go
back and finish what you were talkingabout. Before the break. Jess person
in the truck and had the womanwith him whom he called Claudia, referred
to as Claudia, and they wereat a truck stop in Cabazon that's correct,

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and he wanted to continue to Indio. Yes, so initially she said
agreed that he can take her toCabazon instead of going to the LA route.
Once she was in Cabazon, shedecided to continue with him to Phoenix.
So from Cabazon they drove to theCoachella Valley, Indio area, and

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they stopped at a Burns Brother truckstop. They had dinner. After dinner,
they go back in the truck.They have an argument regarding money,
and that's when he kills her insidethe bed of the truck. Okay,
outside the truck cab. So theargument with money was it presumed that she

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was a prostitute. That is notconfirmed. That's Jessperson's narrative of it.
But we have no information to concernthat confirm whatsoever that she was involved in
any prostitution because he could have beencharging her for Milager gas for all we
know. Right, we have noidea, but he didn't offer any of

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those details. His narrative is thatshe was a prostitute. But unless it's
confirmed, we're not going to labelher as at got it. Got it,
And then you said you got tointerview him, So what was tell
us what that was like, Well, I mean, where where did you
interview him at? I interviewed himat Salem Penitentiary and Oregon. Myself,

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an investigator from rbsite Sheriff Department,Amy Contreras, and I conducted the interview
with Chess person. We just askedhim to We studied up on the case
very well. We wanted to seeif there was any variation or changes to
his story, or if there wasany embellishment or any additional information he can

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provide us that he didn't provide theoriginal investigators. So he was very cooperative.
During the interview. We showed hima few sketches. He pointed out
the sketch that best fits Claudia.He also gave us a physical, maybe
a more in debt physical description ofher, and then he narrated the time

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that they had together and also themurder. What about it? What about
your conversation with him really stuck outto you? What's the one indebible thing
that he told you that just reallyseared into your brain? I would say

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the most important part of the interviewto me was he said that was the
first time he had seen sketches ofher. Whether that's sure or not.
I don't know, but I feelthat the fact that he was able to
look at the three possible sketches wehave and choose from one of those sketches,

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I think helped us out a lotin the case, and that seemed
to be the most important part tome. He very well could have seen
the sketches and bellushed the truth,but I thought that's the part that kind
of was seared in my mind.Had you ever interviewed a serial killer like
that before? I have not.No, this was the first serial killer
I've ever interviewed. What was thatlike going in there in person and sitting

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across the table from him, Itwas surprisingly normal. It was surprisingly calm.
He's very soft spoken. It's justa very relaxed demeanor. There was
nothing, of course, when he'sdescribing how he murdered her. That in

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itself is heartbreaking and shocking, Butas far as anything exciting or different in
the conversation, not much. It'sa very very calm conversation, and each
question I had he was very opento answer. What was his motive for
coming clean? He mentioned that,So I'm not sure if you're familiar,

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but one of the murders, butThere is a woman who confessed to investigators.
I believe it was an Oregon orWashington. She confessed to the murder
and said her boyfriend committed the murder. He said that the fact that these

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two people who are innocent, wentto jail for a murder he committed or
was taking credit for his murder,led him to the confession. So it
was either guilt or ego, eitherone. It could be yes, yeah,
yes. How many is he responsiblefor? Is or he's confessed to?

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He's confessed to eight? Do yoususpect there's more? There is nothing
to verify that there are more victimsout there from him, So there's no
evidence to verify there that he couldhave murdered more than eight. There is

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just stories of him speaking to otherprison inmates confessing more murders. So do
you when something like that happens,do you feel that you have to follow
up on those? Oh, wedefinitely follow up on it. We have
a database that is ran by thefederal government called VISCAP and it links commonalities

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and crimes with victims and with suspects. So he's been in VISCAP for a
very long time. There are somelinks there as far as similarity and the
method a person was murdered, butthe timeline is completely off. He even
admitted that there are several investigators thatshow up to the prison to talk to

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him about a murder that they've hadin their area, but the timeline is
completely off. We're talking with EbanyCavanists from the Riverside County District Attorney's Office.
She's a senior investigator telling us abouta serial killer, but one of
the women that he killed remains unidentifiedto this day. We'll talk more about
that, but first, this isUnsolved with Steve Gregory on KFI AM six

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forty KFI AM six forty live andon demand on the iHeartRadio app. I'm
Steve Gregory and this is Unsolved.Welcome back. Right inside the Riverside County

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District Attorney's Office downtown Riverside. We'retalking with Ebany Kevinists. She is a
senior investigator with the DA's office heretalking to us about a case from nineteen
ninety two involving a woman who wasmurdered and to this day, her identity
is unknown, but the killer isbehind bars. Correct, That is correct?

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Is that unusual epony that you usuallythat you can convict somebody of murder
when the person the victim is unknown. Even the victim is unknown, there
is still a homicide that occurred.So they very well could be convicted for
the homicide. And we have aJane Doe or John Doe victim. Our

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job is to even despite the conviction, our job is to at least try
to get them identified so their familywould have an idea of what happened to
them and that they can have someclosure. Did you ever get to interview
jesperson. I did, Yes,I interviewed him in twenty twenty three,
middle of twenty twenty three. Okay, I want to go there, but

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I want to go back and finishwhat you were talking about before the break.
J just person in the truck andhad the woman with him whom he
called Claudia, referred to as Claudia, and they were at a truck stop
in Cabazon. That's correct, andhe wanted to continue to Indio. Yes,
so initially she said agreed that hecan take her to Cabazon instead of

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going to the LA route. Onceshe was in Cabazon, she decided to
continue with him to Phoenix. OkSo, from Cabazon they drove to the
Coachella Valley, Indio area, andthey stopped at a Burns Brother truck stop.
They had dinner. After dinner,they go back in the truck.

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They have an argument regarding money,and that's when he kills her inside the
bed of the truck. Okay,outside the truck cab. So the argument
with money was it presumed that shewas a prostitute. That is not confirmed.
That's jessperson's narrative of it. Butwe have no information to concern that

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confirm whatsoever that she was involved inany prostitution because he could have been charging
her for milager gas for all weknow, right, we have no idea
any But he didn't offer any ofthose details. His narrative is that she
was a prostitute. But unless it'sconfirmed, we're not going to label her
as at got it. Got it? And then you said you got to

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interview him, So what was tellus what that was like? Well,
I mean where we where did youinterview him at? I interviewed him at
Salem Penitentiary and Oregon. Myself aninvestigator from Merversite Sheriff Department, Amy Contreras,
and I conducted the interview with chessperson. We just asked him to.

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We studied up on the case verywell. We wanted to see if
there was any variation our changes tohis story, or if there was any
embellishment or any additional information he canprovide us that he didn't provide the original
investigators. So he was very cooperative. During an interview, we showed them
a few sketches. He pointed outthe sketch that best fits Claudia. He

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also gave us a physical, maybea more in debt physical description of her,
and then he narrated the time thatthey had together and also the murder.
What about it? What about yourconversation with him really stuck out to
you? What's the one indelible thingthat he told you that just really seared

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into your brain? I would saythe most important part of the interview to
me was he said that was thefirst time he had seen sketches of her.
Whether that's sure or not, Idon't know, but I feel that

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the fact that he was able tolook at the three possible sketches we have
and choose from one of those sketches, I think helped us out a lot
in the case. And that seemedto be the most important part to me.
He very well could have seen thesketches and bellushed the truth, but
I thought that's the part that kindof was steared in my mind. Had
you ever interviewed a serial killer likethat before? I have not. No,

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this was the first serial killer I'veever interviewed. What was that like
going in there in person and sittingacross the table from him, It was
surprisingly normal. It was surprisingly calm. He's very soft spoken. It's just

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a very relaxed demeanor. There wasnothing, of course, when he's describing
how he murdered her. That initself is heartbreaking and shocking. But as
far as anything exciting or different inthe conversation, not much. It's a
very very calm conversation. And eachquestion I had he was very open to

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answer. What was his motive forcoming clean? He mentioned that, So,
I'm not sure if you're familiar withone of the murders, but there
is a woman who confessed to investigators. I believe it was an Oregon or

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Washington. She confessed to the murderand said her boyfriend committed the murder.
He said that the fact that thesetwo people who are innocent went to jail
for a murder he committed or wastaking credit for his murder led him to
the confession. So it was eitherguilt or ego either one. It could

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be yes, yeah, yes.How many is he responsible for? Is
or he's confessed to He's confessed toeight? Do you suspect there's more?
The there is nothing to verify thatthere are more victims out there from him,

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So there's no evidence to verify thatthere that he could have murdered more
than eight. There's just stories ofhim speaking to other prison inmates confessing more
murders. So do you when somethinglike that happens, do you feel that
you have to follow up on those? Oh, we definitely follow up on

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it. We have a database thatis ran by the federal government called VISCAP,
and it links commonalities and crimes withvictims and with sus so he's been
in VISCAP for a very long time. There are some links there as far
as similarity and the method a personwas murdered, but the timeline is completely

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off. So he even admitted thatthere are several investigators that show up to
the prison to talk to him aboutthe murder that they've had in their area.
But the timeline is completely off.We're talking with Ebany Cavanists from the
Riverside County District Attorney's Office. She'sa senior investigator telling us about a serial
killer, but one of the womenthat he killed remains unidentified to this day.

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We'll talk more about that, butfirst, This is Unsolved with Steve
Gregory on KFI AM six forty kI AM six forty live and on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. This isUnsolved with Steve Gregory. Welcome back.
We're inside the Riverside County District Attorney'sOffice in downtown Riverside. We've been talking

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with Ebane Cavinists, senior investigator withthe DA's office, about a Jane Doe
that was discovered dead in nineteen ninetytwo near blythe and in twenty ten,
her killer was convicted and he nowremains in a prison in Oregon. And

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Ebany, you were telling us thatyou had an opportunity to interview mister Jefferson,
mister Jessperson apologized mister Jesperson and thatyou know, he was able to
confirm a lot of information and youshowed him some sketches and we were talking
about these sketches briefly for the break. And I'm looking at one now that

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shows this rendering of a blonde woman. And how old was your Jane Doe?
Approximately, we're saying twenty five tothirty five years old. Okay,
so young woman, yeah, youngwoman. And did he say that this
this one that we're looking at rightnow, did he say this is the

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closest to her? You really?No, it's one of the original sketches.
So that parabond rendering is brand new. Oh got it? We just
got that. We just ordered that. So I have the three sketches.
Do you need to see them?Well, yeah, I mean if you
have them handy. I apologize.I only printed the one to look at,

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but if you've got the others,I'm curious to find out which the
one's Okay, oh, okay,one rendering well not rendering. It was
a sketch. Okay, different,This is another sketch. And were these
from back in ninety two? Yes? And he said these are more like
it. He actually said that's whenI was the braided hair. That's what

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I was. Yeah, yes,Well he described her as having wild,
shaggy, shoulder length blonde hair,so I think this was her version of
making it shaggy or wild in someway. So what we did is we
showed them this sketch and this sketch, and there was a third one.

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He said, not even close.So he said this was the closest look
to her. And with the updatehe gave us as far as her appearance,
this was Corey Kopinski's final sketch.Interesting, okay. So then we

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got her DNA school photos from thecorner for the DNA pheno typing and describe
what the pheno typing is. Thepheno typing is done by Parabond, and
what they do is they take theDNA profile and the school photos, they
upload that into their system. Andwhat it does It predicts a person's physical

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features, their physical appearance, andtheir ethnicity. And what's the accuracy on
these? Pretty good? I mean, so if they were fairly new,
got it? Okay? So theysaid, based on the DNA she had

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blue eyes, brown hair, Europeanbackground, but he insisted that she had
blonde hair, so they did ablonde rendition of her. Did it seem
like at all that he was sortof guessing or did he seem pretty confident
in his recollection of her appearance.No, he seemed pretty confident, pretty
confident. There was no hesitation withhim at all as to which ones looked

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like her and which ones didn't.Did the two ever have sex? That
is not confirmed because her body wasmummified when we located it. He claims
that they did have consensual sex,but there's no way that we can verify
that. Now, when you saythe body was mummified, how long had
it been out in the open likethat, anywhere from two weeks to a

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month. And when you said itwas what was the stage of decomposition?
It was moderate to severe decomposition.And then when you say modern to severe,
can you describe what that might looklike? That is some partial skeletonized.
I can't even say the word that'spartial skeleton skeletonization, skeletonization? Yes,

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is that is that a word?It's a word. I read it.
No, I'm serious, I readit. Okay. So the meaning
that there was probably the skeleton isprobably, uh, it's visible. No,
she's just mummified. So when Isaid advanced to severe, when I
say advanced to severe decomposition, thatmeans there are some mummification on her body

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parts. So I'm surprised out there, and when I'm looking at the aerial
photo of where this was at andthen out there in the desert like that,
I'm surprised that it was mummified andnot completely ravaged by wildlife. The
possibility of it not being ravaged isbecause she was hidden underbrush. So I
don't know if that helped with thestate of composition. I don't know if

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that slows it down. That's somethinga pathologists would know better. And you
said that his reason for killing herwas over money, right, He says,
yes, they had an argument overmoney. She wanted to purchase some
items in a gift shop at Burn'sbrother and then demanded some money from him.
But that is his interpretation of whythe argument ensued. Did he ever

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get into why he killed the otherpeople? I mean, do the motives
seem to match up? Yes,they upset him in some type of way.
What was the trigger? The triggeris demanding money, asking for money,
just being what he perceived as rudeor disrespectful. He even said one

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of the victims falsely claimed that heraped her and that was untrue. He
just said that there was usually somethingthat would trigger him into that state.
As we wrap up here, Ebony, what is it you need from the
public. So what I need fromthe public is I need them to share
this podcast, share our YouTube videos, our social media, share the sketches

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and the photo renderings of our victim, and talk with amongst themselves in the
community if they believe they have anyinformation whatsoever that would help us identify this
victim, If they believe that shemay be a relative that's missing from their
family, or their family has sometype of connection with this case, we

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would love to get her identified,and we asked the public look to contact
us at our Cold Case hotline whichis nine five one nine five five five
sixty seven. Also, they canemail us at Coldcase Unit at rivcoda dot
org. If they have their DNAprofile uploaded in a direct to consumer database,

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they can move that profile over tojetmatch dot com or they can upload
it into jetmatch and see if anyof their DNA matches not only this case,
but any of our other code cases. Ebany Cavinists, Senior investigator with
the Riverside County District Attorney's Office.Thank you very much for your time,

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good luck. Thank you, sir. You can see those sketches on my
Instagram at Steve Gregory six forty.That's Steve Gregory six forty coming up another
gruesome case of a woman dumped inthe desert and later trying to find the
Christmas night shooters of Riverside. Butfirst, this is on with Steve Gregory
on KFI AM six forty. You'relistening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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You're listening to KFI AM six fortyon demand, k I AM six
forty heard everywhere live on the iHeartRadioapp. I'm Steve Gregory and this is

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unsolved. Our next story contains graphiccontent. This is Riverside County Sheriff's Case
number A nine three zero eight ninezero one three, the sexual assault and
murder of Sherry Herrera. We're joinednow by Jason Corey, he's an investigator

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with a Riverside County Sheriff's Department,and Mike Thompson, he's also an investigator,
but he's with the Riverside County DistrictAttorney's office. They both are a
part of a cold case unit that'sworking in Riverside County to sell these cold
cases from years ago, and we'retalking today about one such case, nineteen
ninety three a woman found in thedesert near an on ramp eastbound ten Freeway

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fifty miles east of Palm Springs.Gentlemen, welcome to the show. Hello,
thank you for having us. SoJason give us an overview of this
case. So on March thirtieth ofnineteen ninety three, at just about one
o'clock in the afternoon, some folksjust out enjoying, trying to enjoy the

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desert, just about like you said, about fifty miles east of Palm Springs,
they found the deceased body of SherryHerrera just off of the road,
off the eastbound on ramp at HayfieldRoad and Interstate ten out there in the
in the desert. Uh. Itwas it was hot that day, it

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was about the investigators noted it wasabout eighty to eighty five degrees uh,
with with the slight wind blowing,and uh and these folks just happened upon
a very very gruesome scene and uhand Sherry was was strangled to death.
And then the investigation picked up fromthere and they just Cherry was a prostitute

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in the local area. Would bounceback and forth between the Coachella Valley and
blythe I believe to Larry all theYeah, all the way up to TOI
Larry uh and then uh and thenanywhere in between. So there was a
lot of folks that that the investigatorsinterviewed just in that world, a lot
of narcotics, uh different, shehad pimps. There were folks that that

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they interviewed that were would send themto in different directions throughout the entire investigation.
Uh. And they end up interviewingseveral several folks that that they thought
we were potential suspects and what kindsof folks. You can see several folks
well, local local people out toout to the desert area. The folks

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that were local back then, nottoo sure where they're at where they're at
now, I haven't I haven't researchedto find out where they are, but
uh, known travelers throughout the area, no known drug users. There were
several different theories that that Sharry hadowed different folks money for for for drugs,

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different things. So it's you know, the investigators were taking everything in
and just kind of getting spun indifferent directions. At at the time.
This has got to be complicated toJason because you are dealing with a prostitute,
and that lifestyle lends itself to justmultiple contacts in multiple locations, possible

(37:59):
multiple motive. Uh. You know, how do you sift through all of
that? Well, now I havethe luxury of going back and uh and
and we do with with all threeof us, we have the luxury of
going back and reading everything. Andthen and then obviously in cases where we
were able to have uh, wherewe get DNA, we're able to do

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that. You know, that kindof that helps us out tremendously because they
didn't have that technology back then.So we're able to use that technology now
where we're able to I hate tosay shortcut because we're certainly not shortcutting anything,
but we're able to kind of workour way around all that nonsense that

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you know, those different directions thatthey were thrown into before with you know,
well, you know Sherry owed youknow, owed so and so money
for for dope or Sherry you knowshe crossed so and so so they had
her killed. You know, thosedifferent directions that they that they were directed
in back then. So now withother forensic evidence that we're able to use,

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we're able to you know, beable to to peel back those layers
and say, okay, no,well, this person is excluded now through
forensic evidence. This person is excludedthrough forensic evidence, and then and so
we're so it makes it easier forus to to utilize those tools, uh,
to sift through all of that andkind of say, okay, hey,
this part is nonsense and we don'tneed to really focus on that.

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Was Sherry's body clothed? Uh?No, she was. She was naked.
She was and harsh partially partially nude. Yes, from the top of
the bottom bottom. Okay, Soyou say she was strangled. Was she
strangled with like a ligature or wasit by hand with a ligature? Correct?
Actually, I believe it was both. I believe there was. They

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determined that there was both manual manualstrangulation and the ligature strangulation. And was
that that item found nearby? Yes, it was. Yes. That seems
unusual or is that common? Idon't know. That's having the ligature near
the body or still on the body, still on the body, I don't

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know. That's all that uncommon?Okay, must be all the TV I
watch because everyone trying to you know, trying to cover their tracks. So
what does this tell you then,Jason, that you've got a partially clothed
woman who's a prostitute near an onramp with a ligature still around her neck.

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What was it exactly? I don'trecall what the exact what the ligature
was exactly. I would was ita belt? I would be speculated,
Yeah, I don't remember. Sowhat does that tell you in terms of
possible motive or or whether this wasa random or not random but spontaneous act
or calculated act. Well, Ithink it was probably a spontaneous act,

(40:52):
just just the sheer fact that she'sshe's out there dumped off the side of
the freeway, uh, in thein the desert. I mean that's however,
when you know, when I saythat, I mean it doesn't say
it's not to mean that that hecould have killed her some elsewhere and then
taken her there and and dumped herin that location thinking it was remote enough

(41:13):
to you know, get back onthe freeway and escape. So but I
don't think, you know, evenin nineteen ninety three, I don't think
folks were even you know, thinkingof forensic evidence and leaving you know,
certain items of evidence. You knownowadays, I think you know, Obviously
people are a little more understanding ofthat, and they have they have a

(41:34):
better knowledge of of, you know, cleaning up a crime scene and and
collecting things that that may may identifythem forensically at a later time. I
think they're better at at cleaning upafter themselves now, whereas I think those
things that were left behind, becauseyou know, then they didn't think that
those would ever be used to topotentially identify them. Mike, you know,

(41:57):
I know that you use this taskor he is forensic genealogy? Is
that something you were able to employhere we are we are employing forensic genealogy
on this case. The ethnic predictorson forensic genealogy aren't one hundred percent definitive,
but our ethnic estimates are that thisperson is an African American. We

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have Unfortunately, the genetic matches arequite distant. So we are in the
process of trying to build that familytree and identify some people who might be
of a closer relationship to our potentialsuspect. That's you know, it's fascinating

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because you have to have some sortof evidence or whether it's DNA or some
sort of a sample, right,correct, And so what were you able
to to get from the scene orfrom the person or from the body of
Sherry that helped you with this.Well, there's a male DNA profile recovered
from the victim, and would thisbe like bodily fluid type stuff? Yes,

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okay, and then and then that'sthat was plenty. That was enough
to get you started. Then,correct, So back oh the mid nineteen
nineties when DNA became very very common. They uploaded that profile into codis and
there's no matches in codis, butit did lead to a match of another

(43:40):
victim in another state. Well,and that doesn't seem too uncommon with the
fact that the ten is probably oneof the biggest major thoroughfares you know,
in this part of the country,right, correct? Correct? Was there
evidence that you were talking about?Sherry was found in the desert near the
on ramp, so in the dirt, and I've seen plenty of that because

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I've traveled to ten many times.And we're talking about back in nineteen eighty
three. Was there a fence ofany kind? Did the person walk out
there or did they both walk outthere with their footprints? How did they
get out there? I don't recallseeing that they documented any footprints in the

(44:22):
area, but she wasn't very faroff the side of the side of the
road, and I don't recall offthe top of my head. I know
there was significant decomposition, but I'mnot exactly sure how long she had been
out there at that location. Hey, guys, I want to pick that
up too. Let's talk more aboutthat. But first, this is Unsolved

(44:43):
with Steve Gregory on KFI AM sixforty. Kf I AM six forty heard
everywhere live on the iHeartRadio app.I'm Steve Gregory, and this is unsolved.
For more on this case than others, go to k dot com keyword
unsolved. We're talking with Mike ThompsonJason Corey about the nineteen ninety three death

(45:09):
of Sherry Herrera, a woman whowas found in the desert strangled to death,
fifty miles east of Palm Springs,actually the eastbound on ramp to Hayfield
Road. Before the break, guys, I felt like we were getting really
deep into the forensics part of this, and I was asking you questions about
how Sherry's body got out to themiddle of the desert. Said there was

(45:30):
no indication of footprints at this time. But let's go back a little further
than do you have any kind ofa timeline when was Sherry last seen and
where Cher's last scene March twenty fifth, nineteen ninety three at a truck stop
in Tilarry and then she's recovered fivedays later with evidence of decomposition. On

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March thirtieth, in a very youhad mentioned that you'd driven that stretch of
road. Do you know how onceyou go east of Palm Springs you are
isolated until you really get the blife that stretch of road. It's not
uncommon at all or truck drivers,travelers, our veers just to pull off

(46:15):
the side of the road to takea break, take a nap, et
cetera. Yeah, and then theheat on top of that, this speeds
up the decomposition. So was themedical examiner able to estimate how long she'd
been dead? I don't believe soseveral days days. So I mean,
again, going back on March twentyfifth, this is the last time we

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know her to be alive. Soso now, as a cold case investigator
on this, going back to nineteenninety three, last seeing at a truck
stop, is that do you actuallynow there's really no need to go up
to that truck stop, per seis there. But how do you where
do you go from there? Well, I think in this case the most

(47:00):
important thing is the is the forensicgenealogy to keep working that angle. And
certainly, I mean that is somethingthat that we we would be and we
don't we don't rule anything out.I mean, we'll take a drive and
we'll go we'll revisit these areas,look at them, just for our own
personal you know, knowledge of theseof these areas, so that way,
uh, you know, we're bettereducated about about these things. But with

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the with the DNA and knowing thatit belongs to you know, a certain
a certain well with it with theDNA, we're able to the friends of
genealogy would just come into play alittle bit, a little bit more.
So, let you know, letthose guys work there, you know,
use that investigative tool to narrow thosedown. And then from there, once

(47:45):
they have, if they can puttogether a list of people that we can
go back out and talk to,then we'll then we'll go, we'll go
talk to those folks. Have youinterviewed anybody on this case so far?
No, No, We're we're reallytrying to work the DNA angle on it.
Can we identify who that person isand then develop that person's profile?

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What takes this person to our victim? What takes us to the other victim?
Is there a nexus between them?And where's our suspect living? What
is he doing for work? Wesuspect he could possibly be a truck driver,

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or you know, maybe he's justa traveler who uses the IEN corridor
for personal purpose. It complicates thingseven more well, and like you had
mentioned, we had mentioned, Imean, she was a prostitute, and
unfortunately she wasn't in a great placein life. And frequently law enforcement is
accused of not caring about a victimbecause she's a prostitute. But those present

(48:51):
a lot of unique challenges. IfI did not come home tonight and I
get reported as a missing person,you could ask my friend, my family,
my coworkers, where was Mike?Where was he going? Oh,
he was going to go meet SteveGregory here at are so well did he
show up? What time did heleave? Where did he go? Did
he use his credit card to buylunch? And back then they didn't have

(49:13):
the cell phone technology and things likethat, But unfortunately and and yeah,
prostitutions changed the ad of the internet, But you go back to the nineties,
a prostitute working a truck stop.She gets into a car of somebody
that she probably doesn't know, somebodythat probably her friends don't know, to
go to a destination that she doesn'tknow about. Is she going to go

(49:34):
on a long drive across country orare they just going to go down the
street for a sexual purpose and thenreturn. And so when you try to
talk to her friends, who wasshe with, where was she going,
you encounter those problems that you don'ttypically encounter on a traditional missing person's investigation.
You don't have a financial footprint tofollow to see where did they go,

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where did they go next? Wheredid they go next? Unfortunately,
they're in a circle of friends whoare sometimes in the same bad place that
they are where typically they don't cooperatewith law enforcement, or maybe they just
don't know. I saw her getin a truck with somebody who wasn't or
I don't know what was distinctive aboutthe truck. I don't know how long
was she going to be gone,when was she going to be back?
And you just don't get those typesof information, and so reconstructing what happened,

(50:22):
when, where, why, andhow can be very challenging forensic genealogy.
You know something you're really leaning on, and it's fascinating to me that
you even said you might have asuspect profile. But this information is only
as good as the data that's inputedinto it correct correct. So how do
people, I mean, do Ijust submit my DNA to this database?

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How does that work? Well?There are a number of direct consumer kits
ancestry dot com, twenty three meters, my Heritage family Tree DNA. If
you have completed one of those testsalready, you can download your and submit
it to jed match. Jed matchis an online resource, a clearinghouse where

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people can submit their DNA for comparisonbetween because obviously ancestry doesn't talk to twenty
three and me doesn't talk to myheritage and etc. So I understand I'm
asking some people to do things thatmight make them feel uncomfortable. By submitting
their DNA in a jed match,they might be identifying a cousin, a
second cousin, some type of familymember, identifying them to law enforcement.

(51:31):
Cherry Herrera was not in a greatplace in her life, but she did
not deserve to have what happened toher. She was viciously, sexually assaulted
and murdered, and nobody deserves tohave that. She's entitled to have the
person who did this held accountable fortheir actions. Gentlemen, I wish you

(51:51):
the best of luck on this.This sounds like a complicated case. It
sounds like it's you've got a lotof variables and just a lot of roadblocks,
But I wish you all the successon this one. Thank you very
much. Thank you guys. Comingup, the Christmas Night shooting of twenty
sixteen in the city of Riverside.But first, this is unsolved with Steve
Gregory on KFI AM six forty kI AM six forty heard everywhere live on

(52:20):
the iHeartRadio app. I'm Steve Gregoryand this is unsolved. For the first
time, surveillance video has been releasedshowing an attack on two people in a
car in the city of Riverside.It happened in a residential area. This
is the case of the Christmas Nightshooting of twenty sixteen. We're joined now
by Riverside Police Department officer Javier Cabrera. He is a spokesperson for the Riverside

(52:46):
Police Department, and we're talking abouta shooting from twenty sixteen, happened Christmas
Day of twenty sixteen. So,first of all, officer, thanks for
joining us. Appreciate it very much. Let's start with an overview of the
case. So tell us about theshooting that that involved a carload of people
and just shooters that came out ofnowhere, and just give us a background

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if this actually occurred on Christmas Dayin twenty sixteen, about ten or nine
pm. The victim, her nameis Cassie Verett. She was sitting with
the mail companion inside her vehicle onFirst Street between Main Street and an Orange
Streak in our city. They weresitting inside of the car when all of
a sudden, three hispatic males walkingon the sidewalk without any notice, you

(53:29):
know, all a sudden produce handgunsand begun firing into the vehicle. Cassie
was able to start the car anddidn't realize I guess she had in reverse,
you know, sped hit the carbehind her and then was able to
drive away and then realized that sheactually had been hit. There was blood
inside the vehicle and she was ableto drive herself and her companion to the

(53:50):
hospital or they were treated for theirinjuries. So what time of the day
this was at ninth This is thatnight about ten o'clock after little shortly after
a black at night. And sowere you initially able to get information about
how were you able to find out? I mean Cassie survived correct, right,
so she was able to give yousort of an overview of what happened.
And you said she didn't realize shehad the car in reverse, Well,

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yeah, she said it all happenedso quickly that when the shooting started
happening, she just wanted to getout of there. And she had said
she didn't even know the cars wererebursed. She just got on the gas
and the car went backwards. Shehit a car that was behind her and
then just threw it and drive andthen drove out of there. You were
talking about First Street between Maine andOrange. What kind of an area of
town is that? It's a it'sa residential neighborhood. So is it just

(54:36):
all homes around there, It's somemore townhomes, yether, some homes townhomes,
different types of residents is there?And were there street lights, I
mean, was it illuminated? Yeah, there are streetlights there. So unusual
I mean obviously shooting out of nowherelike that or random shooting or was it
random We'll get to that in amoment. But is it unusual for that

(54:58):
kind of a shooting to happen inthis kind of an area of town.
Well, you know, some actsare you know, we considered random act,
but we are right now, wereally don't know if this was just
a random act. We're trying towe're still trying to figure it out that
night. Tell us a little bitabout Cassie. What is she, what
does she do? Who is sheand what's her background? You know,
I really don't know much about Cassie. She's just a family girl. And

(55:23):
how old is she? But shewas twenty two at the time. She's
almost I believe she's almost she's twentyeight now. Yeah, okay, so
she a family girl and correct,We don't Yeah, she doesn't have any
type of gang affiliations. Of theperson she was with in her car,
we believe he might have had somegang tie, so that you know,
we're not one hundred percent sure becausewe don't have anybody in custody to confirm

(55:45):
anything, but we have strong suspicionsthat they were possibly targeting him and unfortunately
he was colladibal damage. Was heis he a boyfriend or was a boyfriend
at the time. I believe hemight have been her boyfriend. We're not
one hundred percent sure. And thenwhat were you able to get from him?
It sounds like he was in itall in right, He was grazed
by a bullet. He had somelike a small graze and he was treated

(56:05):
at the hospital, released on thesame night. What were you able to
get from him? We interviewed him, got some information, description on suspects,
what he believed of the subsect,suspect descriptions. He was fairly cooperative
towards the beginning of the investigation.And what about his background? I mean,
was there anything about his behavior oranything that legitly believed that he might

(56:27):
be involved in a gang? Afterthey conducted some follow up investigation, they
I can't confirm ate night, butthere are some type of gang ties that
he was involved in. Did thatmake you guys suspicious right off the bat,
well, you know you were assumingthat, Yeah, definitely, most
likely he was the target, notCassie. So We're talking, by the
way, with Officer Javier Cabrera withthe Riverside Police Department about a shooting on

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Christmas twenty sixteen, happened in theevening hours in a residential area of Riverside.
You're kind of going down this gangpath because you said there might be
some affiliations of some sort with theboyfriend of this Cassie that was hit.
The gang affiliation. Let me backup, then, how many documented gangs

(57:15):
do you have in her reside?I have to look that up. We
have, we have quite a wehave we have some gangs. Yeah,
I'm not gonna we do have somethings in the city active. I mean
to the point where it's it's aproblem or is it just or do these
gang related crimes crop up and thenthey die down? Correct? Yeah?
We don't comparable to like other citieslike La We don't have that big of

(57:37):
a problem, but the problem stillexists. So you know, and I
know you weren't the investigator there thatnow you're just you're sort of accounting the
story for so I know that youmay not know a lot of the nuances
of it, But what were youable to get from him other than a
suspect description. Was there any indicationor suspicion based on his body language or

(58:00):
anything that might have led you tobelieve that there was something more to this
that night. No, we didn'tget anything from him. So now you've
got Cassie, who is you saying? She was in her twenties early twenties
at the time. What about theman, the young man? You know
what, I really I don't havethat information right now. So fast forward
to today. Then have you hadto now that you released this video and

(58:24):
we'll talk a little bit more aboutthat coming up, But have you been
able to talk to Cassie again orthis boyfriend again? Have you been able
to get anything new from them?We talked to Cassie and some family members
of her hers and but we hadnot been able to We didn't talk to
the male companion. Are they stilltogether? No, not together. They

(58:45):
don't even she doesn't even know wherehe's at or she hasn't got to hold
him or anything. Now, whenyou talk about this residential area, were
there any other crimes or is thata what sort of your crime mapp?
What does your crime map look likefor that part of town? There's been
some crimes that in that particular area, some gang activity in that area.

(59:07):
So when you say gang activity,can you be more specific, just you
know, different types of crimes thatwe could possibly label as gang related,
robberies, assaults, mersalts, yeah, shootings, things like that. I
mean, it's a big neighborhood,So it's just that particular street, maybe
not that particular street, but theactual neighborhood, the surrounding areas. Yeah,

(59:30):
we've had shootings and different things thatare possibly gang related. What about
the demographic for that area? What'sthe demographic? Usually that area is predominantly
predominantly Hispanic and African American. Okay. Socioeconomic, I mean it's just a
wealthier area of town. Is ita not so wealthy area? I would
say, like middle class, middleclass yeah, okay, so typically probably
very quiet neighborhood, working class familiesfor the most part. Yeah. Yeah,

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so this is an unusual occurrence.Yeah, I would say that.
Okay, when we come back,we're going to talk more about is shooting
in twenty sixteen happened on Christmas Dayand in the city of Riverside. We're
talking with Officer Hovier Cabrera. Butfirst, this is unsolved with Steve Gregory
on KFI AM six forty. KFIAM six forty heard everywhere live on the

(01:00:24):
iHeartRadio app. I'm Steve Gregory andthis is Unsolved. We're talking with Javier
Cabrera. He's an officer and spokespersonwith the Riverside Police Department about a shooting.

(01:00:45):
Not really sure if it was randomor targeted, but it was a
shooting on Christmas Day twenty sixteen,actually took place around ten o'clock at night
in a predominantly middle class neighborhood ofRiverside. And before the break, you
know, we were talking a littlebit about possible gang affiliation between the boyfriend
of the woman that was driving,and you said, you're not really sure

(01:01:07):
yet that there might be, mightnot be. It wasn't really determined.
But now what kind of brings ustogether is you've released a video that shows
Cassie throw the car into reverse,you know, rush backwards. It shows
what appears to be the guys openingfire. So this is a video that
you just recently released, you know, in the month of April. Why

(01:01:30):
now and not then? Okay,back then, when the actual incident occurred,
we were actually working and invest doingseveral investigations. Well, when the
incident occurred, one of the investigatorswas a homicide and two or water or
maybe even two of the suspects onthis video that we obtained that night.

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There are physical characteristics and different thingsled us to believe that they might be
the same people, it might berelated. So then we were kind of
like, you know it, weprobably compromise the investigations that we were already
deep into if we released that video. So that's when we decided not to
release that video because of the ongoinginvestigations that were taking place. Well,

(01:02:14):
that's kind of interesting. So then, and I suppose that I'm just correct
me if I'm wrong here. I'mpresuming that since there was no death included
or involved rather in this shooting we'retalking about now, that it didn't seem
to be as big of a priorityin solving the homicide prior. Well,
it's still always a priority, youknow, because this is somebody's daughter,
it's somebody's family member that and it'sstill always a priority. But we still

(01:02:37):
have to maintain the antivity of theother investigations, and we don't want to
compromise that. That's a tough spotto be it is. Wow, I
don't think I've heard of something likethat where you've had to sort of stop
one investigation in favor of another becausethe information might be the same in both
cases. Right when we really stoppedher investigation, we continue to work diligently

(01:02:58):
with what we had, just theactual video we couldn't release to the public.
I see, I see, Okay, that makes sense. So then
if you've released the video now somewhat six years later? Correct? Almost
six years? Almost six years later? Yeah, so are we to take
from that either you solved the previoushomicide or you just hit a brick wall,

(01:03:21):
you know what, the previous ones. I'll be one hundred percent honest,
I'm not one hundred percent sure ifif those were actually solved, as
a possibility they were, I wouldhave to research by the actual report number
and go back. But somebody gavethe green light for the release of the
video, correct, meaning that itwould no longer be a compromise those old
investigations. Yeah. Interesting. Ihope you can maybe tell us about that

(01:03:43):
because I'd still like to know howthat came to be. That's so fascinating.
So now explain, because you obviouslypeople are listening, Explain what's on
the video? What did the videoshow you? The video shows obviously the
Cassie is parking insider white Malibu onthe curb. When first one Hispanic mal
appears. He's like a heavy setof Hispanic mail. He appears walking kind

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of ahead, kind of looks likehe's like checking out the whole situation,
checking out the scene. He's walkingfirst, and as he walks past her
car, the other two Hispanic malesfollow behind him. And as right as
the other two spac males reached thefront of the car on the sides.
They were passing along the side alongthe car on the sidewalk, that's when

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the heavy set his spag mill turns. Everybody pulls out their guns and they
start opening fire on the vehicle.And where did the rounds go through the
windows or how where did they seethe video it shows him going through the
front windshield, you go through theI believe the side door. The car
was hit multiple times. We founda total of ten ten spent shellcasings at
the scene. Ten spell spent withinthree weapons correct, So it looks like

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they shot ten times. Yeow,it's miraculous, Yes, that nothing more
happened to them. It was ittruly was see with her because she got
hit three times and it was justshe's fortunate that, you know, she's
still here with us. And sowhat else did the video show you did?
Were you able to get enough ofa description of the suspects? We

(01:05:12):
have a description, correct, Andlike I said earlier, the video was
not released to the public, butit was released internally. And so how
did you use that internally? Then? And you were talking about the previous
case, so so did you howdid that work? Did you reach out
to other investigators in the department say, hey, watch this, do you
know these guys? Correct? Whatwe do is we'll release it department wide
for the our sworn officers, andthen a lot of times it's a lot

(01:05:35):
of our department has very proactive officers. They're constantly out there and they contact
a lot of people. And alongthese years they'll be they'll know they contacts
one of the people that I remembernames, they'ren where they live. And
then in this case, a coupleof our former gang intelligence detectives saw the

(01:05:55):
video and they like, you knowwhat, they resembled some people they they
might have been counted the encountered inthe past, so they all of a
sudden we had now a couple ofpersons of interest and where did that take
you? Well, once we establishedthe persons of interest and we were able
to put together photographic lineups. Weactually put three photographic lineups a tree,

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separate times for Cassie to the victimto look at the photographic lineup with one
of the persons of interests in it, and she wasn't able to identify anybody
on any of the three occasions.And the male companion participated in two of
them, and he also was notable to identify anybody. Do you think
that's a house soon after the incidenthappened that you had the lineup? And

(01:06:45):
the only reason I'm asking that offserious because I'm curious that is this a
case of based on your experience ofthe trauma still or or do you think
they just didn't get a good look? You know what? It could be
both a little bit of both,because sometimes it's either two things could happen
when something traumatic like this happens tosomebody, they have a spitting image of

(01:07:06):
the person, they won't forget theirface, or it'll be the complete opposite.
They won't remember. So that's that'sthe unfortunate part when they don't remember
exactly. In this case, youknow, there was some street lighting,
but it was a little you know, it could have been a little dark.
It might have been hard to actuallyget a good look at their face.
And it probably happened so quick,so as she heard the gunshots,
she's probably like trying to get outof there, you know. Yeah,

(01:07:29):
yeah, so that's one of thosethings. So the persons of interest that
you had, is this a caseof where you just let them go and
that's it, or do you putany surveillance on them? No? We
did all that there was. Theperson's interest led to search warrants, the
residences, parole searches, probation searches, surveillance, and unfortunately it just it

(01:07:50):
didn't go anywhere. Just ted ends. Were these guys clean from this particular
case. Yeah, we didn't findany webpas history correct for this particular We
were not able to put this shooting, you know, them as the shooters.
So what is it you want fromthe public, You know what,
just see the video, maybe yourecognize somebody, maybe you've hurt something,

(01:08:12):
maybe you know, you never know, somebody might have said something, you
might talked about it, you heardsomebody talk about it. You just never
know. So we're hoping that maybeshowing this video might shed some light,
maybe some new set of eyes.We'll see something and they can, you
know, we can get some newleads and reopen this case. Well.
Of course, people are free toand should be encouraged to call the Reverside
Police Department if you'd like, though, you can also hit pound two fifty

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on your cell phone and say thekeyword unsolved and leave any information there.
We'll make sure that investigators get that. So, Officer Cabrera, thank you
so much for your time. Muchappreciated and good luck. We hope that
you solve the case. Awesome,Thank you so much, and that's going
to do it. Unsolved with SteveGregory is a production of the KFI News
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director. The program is produce bySteve Gregory and Jacob Gonzalez. The digital
producers Andro Momo, the field engineersTony Sorrentino, and the technical director is
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