Full Show - 2/22/2025

Full show from the Donovan & Jorgenson Heating & Cooling Studio: Saturday, February 22nd, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Varsity Blitz high school sports show, presented
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(00:20):
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system go to Donovan Jorganson dot com. At ten o'clock,
we're going to introduce you to this week's current Electric
Superhero of the week. He is a young man tight
end at Wisconsin Lutheran High School and doing man a
really great kid. Looking forward to having him in studio.
At ten twenty, Craig Harden is going to join us

(00:43):
along with Rocky Wagenhurst, who's the VP and general manager
of Sinclair Broadcast. They're going to be televising the selection
show for the Boys State Tournament tomorrow and Craig Harden
is going to be on that show. So we're going
to talk a little bit about what that show is
going to look like and who's gonna be ware And
I don't know if Craig's gonna gonna tell us what

(01:03):
he thinks as far as who will be what seed,
because that's coming from the computer. I miss those face
to face you know, when you could go in and say, listen,
how can you put me at a six? I beat
you twice and look at a coach in the eye.
Now it's all computer generated, and we'll see how that
goes tomorrow in studio for the first hour. I have

(01:25):
tried to do this show a couple of times, and
basketball season a little bit quick for me because we
want to get a lot of guys in. But a
couple of times I've asked the Johnson brothers. One's the
head coach at Kathymoor. One's the head coach at Greendal.
I'll see him on the sidelines for a football game
and we all start talking, smack, who would win one
on one? I would? No, I would. When you guys

(01:47):
coach against each other, who wins? I do? No, you don't.
I beat you last time. And I thought basketball is
very important in this family. And when you got two
guys that are coaching head coaches at the high school level, man,
I just think, well, this will be a fun show
because they're gonna talk a little bit of smack. I'm
gonna start with uh, let's start with Kyle Johnson. He's
the head coach at Catholic Memorial.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Kyle, Hey, you Ben good, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
You play one on one against Ryan? Who wins?

Speaker 2 (02:13):
I definitely do, yeah, no doubt. You know, you know
stronger defensively, you know Ryan can shoot it. But I
definitely will go that way and take him for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Ryan. You're the head coach at Greendale. You play your
brother Kyle one on one. Who wins? Come a little
close there you go?

Speaker 3 (02:29):
I definitely would. However, I have not played in about
five years since the Toro cl But I mean every
time you close, if you play horse, it's not even close.
Not even Kyle can't shoot. You could go left hand
and Peter yea, Kyle can't shoot. Kyle can't shoot.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
But he's lying.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
He's he comes from the grass street. He's all about
defense and everything. Offense isn't his thing.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
You guys should coach together. You take the.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Offense we did back in the day.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
He was he was our JV coach and he did
a wonderful job.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
He did, yeah, until until you let him go because
he was driving a nuts his own job. He got
his own job. Hey, let's start with your background. Where'd
you go to high school? Where'd you be playing college?
Stuff like that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
So I went to Greenville High School and I played
for Paul Krasky. Ryan and I played together. I was
a freshman, he was a senior on varsity. So that
was an awesome experience to be able to play with
your older brother.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Did he pass.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
During the game is actually yes? In practice no, And
there was a lot of jersey. My jersey was ripped
in half because of practice, and I'd come home and
I'd get yelled at by my dad to be tougher.
So it was I got a credit to him for that.
But yeah, and then after that, I went to Oshkosh.
My first year, I played football and baseball, and then
I just I missed basketball way too much. And my

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Ryan played at Oshkosh for basketball, so I went to
every one of his games and watching him. I just
missed it so much that I called Gresh, who was
recruiting me out of high school, and told him I
missed it much. He's like your spot's yours. So then
I transferred to Saint Norbert and ended up playing basketball
and baseball there and that was the best experience.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Well what was Geary like as a coach? I look
for years and now I think he's done. But I
think as far as looking at that UWGB game job
when it would open up, I could never figure out
why they didn't drive six miles or five miles to
Saint Norbert and go what would it take. I just
think he does a really good job. We had him

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in studio once and he goes, look, I like coaching basketball,
but I'm also the golf coach, and I go really,
he goes, yeah, it's great. I just drive around to
the golf cart and I tell people, hey, don't forget
to do this and do that. He goes, but man,
he loves Saint Norbert. But I think years ago, if
they would have made the right offer, he would have
he would still be the coach at UWGB. And I'm

(04:45):
a big fan of his.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, I'm a big fan of his. Two I agree
with you. If they would have made the right offer,
he would have went there and stayed there, and he'd
still be the coach at Green Bay. But like you know,
practices who he was. It was you had to be
the hardest working team, and it was always we Joe
to Ryanoi says, it's always defense.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
You know.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
We the score at halftime in the college game could
have been fourteen to sixteen. And he's mad about our defense.
He's not mad about our offense, you know. So it's
those things. But like you know, I definitely agree with
him and his philosophy on defense. Making teams beat you
from the outside, don't get him in the paint, and
then you know your offense will come like your defense
turns into your offense constantly. And I agree with that,

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and it's been shown with our team for sure.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Ryan your background, you played at Greendale and then went
and played at Oshkosh. Was he that a good experience
for you?

Speaker 6 (05:30):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, it was a great experience. I mean I enjoyed it.
I mean not only from a basketball standpoint. Made lifelong friends,
helped me learn a lot from the game of basketball,
just from a variety of coaches. You know, my own
coach and then you know opposing coaches and whatnot. And
without without those experiences, I'm not I wouldn't be a
high school head coach and learn from that. And as
you know, when you're coach, you keep learning, so you

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kind of keep talking to other coaches and I still
I've been in touch with you know, coach Lewis who's
still at Oshkash now and coach Yuckam who's there after
my coach retired and he's over at Washton, you know.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
Saint Louis and yeah thereon does a wonderful job.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
So it's just you learn so many things when you're
playing that you can apply to when you're coaching, of
different aspects of some things work, some things don't work,
and then you kind of put your own twist on it,
so to speak to.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
You know, as coaches, we don't invent much, but we
steal a lot, right, You steal a little bit from here,
and somebody's running a twelve press and where they're trapping
and how they're doing it. You pick that, and then
you pick a little in this, and somebody's running a
matchup zone and how they're doing this, and then you
make it your own. And I think as coaches you

(06:39):
always kind of evolve into different things. The coach that
you were in the beginning rind totally different than who
you are now as a coach.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Oh yeah, I mean just not only from sometimes an
x's and O standpoint. You know, you learn some different
things offensively, you learn some different things defensively.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
You evolve.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
You know, we did a lot of different stuff in
terms of like ball screen motion when we was first
coming up, but we had a little bit bigger team
and now we try to stay spread and five out
and everything like that. But then you also just you
learn some different defensive tricks, whch works and you know,
I mean I do pick his brain. He is very
good defensive coach, so I'll try to get some stuff
from him as well. And then you just mature, right,
I mean when I first got the Greendow job, I was,

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you know, twenty six years old.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
Now you know, now I'm forty.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Like you just you mature as a person, and I
think that can kind of help you with the kids
and on the sidelines and everything like that.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Did you know for a long time in college that
you wanted to be a coach? Was that kind of
the direction or when you're in college you're not thinking,
Like when I.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Was in college, I wasn't necessarily thinking about it, But
it's one of those things that once I graduated, you
like all I knew was basketball right from second grade
on in high school to college, and it was like,
I want to just keep being a part of it.
And I was able to be an assistant at Greendell
under coach Kraski, who played for US right after college,
and then it just kind of grew from there and
everything kind of worked itself out.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
You know, for a boy to be able to be
the head coach at the school he went to. You
don't hear that a lot, you know, you don't hear Look,
you left and then came back. A boy can come home.
Are you in this school? Are you a teacher?

Speaker 3 (08:10):
I am not working at accounting from an Elmgrove, but
I do live in Greendale, so i'm you know, and
I have so many connections from living there, playing there,
and obviously coaching there for the last thirteen fourteen years.
That so many different administrators and everything. So if something goes,
you know, awry at school or I need to get right,
I'm there.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
I'm there.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
So it's like it's I'm not quite in the building,
but I feel like I'm an extension of the class.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Hey, Kyle, the move over to Catholic Memorial for you,
we you and I had this conversation when you were
kind of figuring it into is this a place I
want to go because when I coached, I only coached
in private schools. And we had a conversation. I love
the people over there, I love the administrators. I think
they do a really good job.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Happy with the move, absolutely, I think it's the best move.
The cathlinmorrioal is fantastic. Bergen our eighty is absolutely. You know,
the families are fantastic. Everybody cares about sports athletics, and
you know, not being in the building. You know, working
remotely from home is probably the best for that experience
too as well, Like I can pop in and do

(09:13):
those things. And everybody cares about everybody there from success
and being at the private school. And I'm a huge
multi sport person. They live and breathe multi sport.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Well you've lived it, yes, right, you lived it. And look,
Catholic Memorial is a football school. I mean that's Bill
Young is the guy. Right, Absolutely, But I don't think,
and I've known Matt Bergen in a long time, it's
not like, Okay, well you can't use the gym because
we're gonna have our football guys in there now. You know,
he understands the importance of each of the sports. And

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they're doing a great job on the youth side as
well right now because they understand that that's the future.
And so even though it's a football school, because of
the success that Bill Young has had, you get some
of those football guys playing basketball.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, it's fantastic. So like I look at our team.
You know, this year we had eight guys that played
on the football team. I make guys that made to
the state championship game. We have fourteen players on our team.
Thirteen of them are multi sport athletes. We have one
strictly just basketball player, but everybody else plays football, soccer, track, volleyballs.

(10:21):
It's incredible and that shows that our success with our
young team.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Hey, Ryan, Greendale is Look, they've had success in football
that you got. You obviously have had success in basketball.
Their baseball programs good. There's a number of really good
programs there. When Stoltz was rolling there for a minute,
I think people thought Greendale there is a football school,
But boy, you guys have had a lot of success
in multiple multiple sports, and I think that that shows

(10:49):
the health of not only the youth programs. But Greendale,
the community believes in really strong athletic programs.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
Oh yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
I mean we've got a great group of coaches as
the baseball coach, coach Murray's coaching football, and I mean,
you know, George has been in soccer, There's you know,
coach Smith Kelly's and girls volleyball. I mean, there's so
many different wonderful, you know coaches there, and the kind
of try to help feed off of each other, right,
Like you know, we don't have the biggest, gigantic fieldhouse
around or anything like that, so we share so much

(11:18):
space and we just kind of work with each other.
It's like you know, if someone's got a big event
or something, you kind of share everything and you go
from there. But I do think it's important that everybody
kind of helps each other out and boostsch other because
when one program's good, typically it rises the level of
the other one.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
I agree with that one hundred percent. And and could
because the other kids want the parade, right, they want
the pep rally. And and when I was at Martin
Luther and you know that first year, they hadn't had
a lot of success in sports, and we went school choice,
and now we had some different kids coming through the school.

(11:54):
And now that the first basketball game that coach wallershim
and that I had there was against Walk's School of
the Arts. I do a high school basketball cho I
didn't even know they had a team like that's on me,
of course, but we had like seven kids for seven
students come to watch that first game. And at the
end after four years, if you didn't get there by
halftime of the freshman game, you weren't getting in the

(12:16):
student section. And what happens then is now the football
program they started getting pretty competitive, baseball program getting competitive.
Then the girls program, the girls' basketball, they wanted they
want a part of that. They get up to state.
So I agree with you that if one team has
a lot of success, it's you know, every other team

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wants to get up to that. Were you a multi
sport athlete like your brother?

Speaker 7 (12:40):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (12:40):
I played football, played football. I actually played for Coach Tults.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
You didn't what positions you play?

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Quarterback?

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah? You were a pretty boy?

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Huh yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Did you throw it a little bit?

Speaker 4 (12:49):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:50):
I mean Kyle did too, and I mean he was
a better runner than I was. But I was significantly
better pound.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
I love this significantly. It wasn't just he was a better,
he was better, but you were a runner. So when
your dad said you got to be tough, but you
thanked him for toughering you up a little bit.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Absolutely, Ryan definitely to be.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
A quarterback instill the system back then, you had to
be tough. Yeah, you had to because he had you
doing a lot.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
He had you doing a lot. He was tough, like
you know, to Ryan's credit, you know when he was
talking about the team's success, like I you know, within
the football success, like so many people into the weight
room because of like Rob Stulton, because of Ryan, and
it brought all those other sports, right, all those other programs,
you know. And I'm from Greendale, so I see it
and I know it, and I've been a part of
the whole Greendale with coaching Ryan. Like that is the

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biggest thing for the success is pushing kids and doing
multi sport athletes.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Can you tell me what it was like for you. You
would have been like, let's say sixth grade and you
were playing varsity football, right because you're four years apart, yeah,
four years apart, So sixth grade, seventh grade, you would
go to a football game or a basketball game and
see your brother, I've got to believe you would go
home when you hit your your head hit the pillow,

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you started thinking, Oh, okay, that's who I want to beat.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Him one hundred percent. So I will say this, and
I remember this like it was yesterday and he was
a sophomore varsity quarterback. They played the undefeated Whitnell team.
I'm a ball boy, so I'm like chasing around watching
Ryan and it was like the coolest thing, right, like
seeing him throwing the football, throwing touchdowns, helping that team

(14:22):
beat the undefeated Whitnell team. And it was what nineteen
ninety nine, probably one of the coolest experiences. And like
me trying to go give him a high five, and
he quickly gets me. Let's get out of the way, a.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Younger brother, get away the cheerleaders. But I think it's
important and and and you guys being head coaches, you
know at Greendale and at Catholic Memorial, when I have
when I when we have players in I make a
point to say, with the guys from Waterford in a
couple of weeks ago, when you're at the pick and

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safe in Waterford with your buddies and you're going to
grab some fruit and something neat before practice. Understand that
you have a fifth grade, sixth grade, seventh great kid
that thinks they think you guys are the NBA. So
make sure that you understand that role model. Whether you
whether you want to be or not, a lot of
eyes are on you.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
That's that's one hundred percent of the truth. These kids
look up to them, they think that they're like NBA players.
I remember it when Greendale went to State for basketball
back in the day, and like I looked up to
Phil Calver, Chris Charros who played at Villanova, Andy Schrader,
like these dudes, like they were the best things since
slice spread right. I Mean I even did that when
I was in high school and Ryan's team graduated. I

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watched their highlight film before our high school football games
to get excited ready.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
To You can really see it too, and I know
at firsthand. I mean, my son is a third grader
right now, and he, you know, looks up to not
only the kids on our team, but the kids we
play against.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
Right that he's been around.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Is he a ball boy?

Speaker 3 (15:48):
No, we don't really have those. I mean he kind
of comes to practice, mess around. But like, I cannot
say enough positive things about our group of kids, about
how nice they are to not only him, but you
know even my daughter too.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
And and you go to.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
These other games and he's even looking at you know,
this player and that player, and I want any names,
but he's like, what do you mean, he's not a
Division one player. He's the best player I've ever seen,
you know. It's like, no, he's not quite thee yeah, right, And.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
I would look, my son was a ball boy for
for us, right, And I left Dominican after Matthew was
born because now we have two kids, and it was like,
so I took a grade school job so that he
could come to practice. And then I was at Catholic
or I was at Christ King and I thought, I

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want him to be comfortable with any kid from any neighborhood.
Left there and took a job at Resurrection Catholic Academy
down in the city so that he could come to
practice and he would be comfortable with anybody who wants
to play basketball, doesn't matter, and from any neighborhood. And
I can tell you that he was probably about the
age where your son is. It had such a major

(16:55):
impact on him, and it like it. It's forced him
to be comfortable and then watch and get into drills
and learn how to handle the ball, learn how to
be comfortable with everybody.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Absolutely, that's the truth. Like, you know, his son is
in third grade. My son's in first grade and does
kind of the same thing. We had last week our
third grade team practice, like just do skilled stuff with
our varsity guys, and they thought it was the best thing.
I've never seen a bunch of third graders work so
hard to try to impress these guys, which is just
a lot of fun, and that builds what successful programs are,
makes kids more excited to play basketball, to go out

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and play longer, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Hey, so tomorrow's the selection show and we're going to
get into that, and I'm wondering, you guys have been
around long enough. And actually I'm going to go to
you Ryan first. Do you miss the meetings? Do you
miss the ceding meetings? And I look, I like, I'm
one hundred percent ivers. So I like controversy. I enjoy it.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
Oh, I love it.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
I absolutely love the seeding meetings.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
I mean I love the back and forth banter, the
all of it. One time at Greenfield when Kyle was
the coach at Greenfield, and he tried to argue that
they should be ahead of us in a seed.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
And we beat him by like twenty five.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
It was the dumbest argument I've ever heard, and the
entire room was like, what are you doing? Like it
literally made no sense why he was trying to argue it.
I don't know, I don't know even know what he thought.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
I still argue that Tom in the face. We had
the same records with a couple of guys out an
Guys Out. My favorite was We're Down.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
I was over at I was at Heritage Christian and
I did spend one year there and I was during
my show, Chuck Freeman came in to do my show
and I had to go to Racine Prairie. Well, that
week we we we had Jerry Pettig on the afternoon show.
I didn't plan it, but I made a comment that
I think he had a lot to do with us

(18:48):
going to five divisions and taking away eight of the division. One. Well,
his son lives here, and he called Jerry in Cuba City,
who then called in. We had Ron Dana on hold
and we cut him loose it was Leroy Butler, Gary Ellison,
Sparky and I and had Jerry pettig you on and
I'm getting text messages saying, hey, you're poking the bear,
be careful, right, And I'm like, it's all right, what

(19:09):
can you know, Coach pettygu come on. He was a
little mad at me for a minute, but it was okay.
I go down to that seating meeting and the coach
from Saint Catherine's right, been around one time and he's
just kind of sitting back and does his deal and
now it's done, and he makes it common, hey, when
you were poking the bear, right, how dare you take?
Take on Jerry Pettigu And he sat back and started

(19:30):
laughing because there was a couple of Pettigu guys in
that meeting, and they start coming at me pretty hard.
And Aaron Womack, coach, the head coach at Martin Luther
and you know Aaron, he's six ' ten. He's like, hey, coach,
I'm gonna have to walk you to your car. I
don't know if you'll be able to get there on
you on your own. But it was so like I
like that kind of stuff. Not everybody does.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
I love the scene means just in general.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
I mean I know that sometimes they got a bad rap,
but I mean I was a part of you know,
ten of them or so, and there was I mean,
you can maybe come on one hand the true like,
oh this team was mis seeded, but not really like
I just think that the seating meetings, based upon the
last two years of the computers, the in person seeding
meetings did a significantly better job.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
I think so too. And they said it got so political,
where you know, if there are four teams from the
same conference, they would watch out. I didn't look. I
didn't see that.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
I never saw that. And you know I was in
the ceeding meetings. I mean obviously one against Ryan and
a couple of seating meetings. I have never seen that. Sure,
somebody maybe missed a seat when you were the seven
or eight. Oh I should have been a seven verse eight.
But what you're playing the same team, and it really
doesn't matter at that.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
It doesn't, right, Yeah, I missed those. Do you look
you look forward to You'll watch the show? Have you
kind of look as coaches?

Speaker 4 (20:46):
You don't.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
We don't look ahead, but we work ahead. Let's get
your break I'm gonna ask you about your your regional
in your sectional, and I'll do that for both of
you guys. On the other side of the break, we
were talking to Kyle Johnson, the head coach at Catholic Memorial,
and Ryan Johnson, his brother, and you can hear look,
I can't imagine what Thanksgivings like with these guys. If

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they're doing like a turkey bowl, I want to be
part of it. I'll buy a ticket to that thing. Now.
I gotta believe that they used to get a little
physical until he tours HCl not so physical anymore. But
ones are throwing quarterback, ones are running quarterback. One's an
offensive player in basketball, wants a defensive player in basketball.
I just met. I would love to be a fly

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(21:52):
He just showed me. Absolutely, and so I'm gonna go
with it. Yeah. Absolutely, Freddy Owns the head coach at
Kimberly just stepped down the effective immediately.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
I couldn't believe it. I showed Ryan this morning and
right before we walked in, and he Freddie Owens is
the one who tweeted it out, and I was stunned.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Stunned, And I'm.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Getting text messages from people all over and wow.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
Aren't you just connected?

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Sorry, aren't you?

Speaker 5 (22:17):
He's got text messages it straight.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Hey, he's the high school insider right here. Kyle Johnson,
head coach at Catholic Memorial. Hey, Kyle, in your let's
take a look section of four Brookfield Academy, Brown Deer,
Carmen Northwest, Catholic Memorial, Dominican Fuller, KETTILM Waring, Lutheran Key,
Washkam Kingdom Prep, Milwaukee Language is Ousburg and I don't

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want to talk to Oosburg and University schools still thirty
six years of coaching, the worst loss ever, So I
don't want to talk about it ever. If you get
a chance to beat him, trust me, I'm rooting for
you on that one, pal, But you've looked through this,
where do you think? What seed do you think you'll
be at?

Speaker 2 (22:59):
You know, we could fallow anywhere between like the three four, five,
six range. Which one should you get? That's a great question.
Whichever one the computer gives us is the one we
should get, So you should run.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
For you want to be an Alderman or something to politically,
of all.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
The teams that he just mentioned, how many of them
are you better than?

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Let me go through that you would just that you
would just beat easily by double digits.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
To us, every game would be an extremely tough game.
You know, everyone is a better.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Watch time I do these playoff shows. I'm telling you
want to talk about coach speak the whole It's two
hours of coach speak. You know, you're playing out of
the among American Peace team and this is the best coach,
the best rebounding, best shooting. Well they've got one win, yeah,
but they're really playing well right now. I get so
much to that coach speak and I love it. So

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you think three four, five somewhere in that range.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, that is where I think we should get. Absolutely,
But there's a lot of great teams in there that
have a lot of wins, similar records than a lot
of the teams. So with how the computer is being run,
it's going to be completely different. You know, Milwaukee School
Languages only has four losses, so I would assume they're
going to get the one. But Dominican is really really good.

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I mean they're sixteen and seven and that's you know,
who knows it. Maybe they'll get the one. But again
with the computer seating and you have no idea what
it's gonna have, no idea.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
I have Milwaukee School Languages. I if the computer looks
at at competition, right, I don't know if they'll get
the one. But if it's strictly by record, maybe they do.
How about how about you sectional four in the Milwaukee
South region, it's cut a Hey, Greendale, Greenfield, Martin Luther, Bayview,

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Milwaukee Tech, Milwaukee South. We're sine Park, South Milwaukee, Santa
Goas the Prep, Thomas Moore and tenor where do you
think you guys will what do you what do you find?

Speaker 3 (24:52):
I think based upon records, we're probably somewhere in that
four to six range, Okay, and then it just kind
of plays itself out. I mean we're seeing Park only
has one loss. Yeah, they'll shot if they're not the one,
and they're I mean, they're very deserved. They are a
very very talented team. And Greenfield has two losses, and
then Milwaukee South, I believe, has three. So based upon record,
those are probably one through three, you know, and then

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you kind of land we're in that four five six.
We have a similar record with Martin Luther Bradley Tech,
so it's kind of where it all falls.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, you kind of thought I'd bring up the Martin
Luther story with you and I, but I won't.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
You kay bringing up please?

Speaker 5 (25:29):
So David listening somewhere, Yeah, let me let me bring
this up. He wants all, he wants all.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
We tell you by Waller shot and I got the
job over at at Martin Luther and and uh Ryan
called and said, hey, we should do this home and
he you guys are close. We should build this rivalry.
And we started for freshmen that first year we didn't
have We were okay, and we we competed pretty well
with Greendale, and all of a sudden next year there
was no place for us on the schedule.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
It was like, Seinfeld, I want to go out on top.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
He wasn't coming to our place the next year. He
shook his head and said, nope, I'm done, but I
might have a spot in this little holiday tournament. I
don't know if we'll play each other. He said, no,
you said this, And he said, oh, I'm going back
on it. So I'm still giving them a little smack
and and and you know, thanks for reminding me because
I may have forgot. You know, I didn't forget any
of that. Hey, how is Greendale? How you guys playing

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right now?

Speaker 5 (26:23):
We're playing well, I mean, we had a nice one
last night. Versus Pious.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
You know, I may be biased, but I think the
Woodland West, you know, with the teams that we have,
you have Whisco at the top, West Al Central, Pelwaukee,
New Berlin West is in our Pious and Us. I mean,
I think, especially at the top, it's arguably one of
the best conferences around the area, if not the state.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
I mean, you have teams year in and year out.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
I mean Wisco, Pewaukee last year state final, right West
Al Central Sectional final lost to Marquette who won it all,
you know, and those teams are right at the top.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Again. Well, there's some coaches in that in that conference.
Oh yeah, I gotta tell you. You know, we we
did the Tuesday game, We did the Peewak Wisconsin Lutheran game.
Wisconsin Lutheran. Not only are they really good, but they're
young too. They got some kids that Waltas's kid. I
like him Wald.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
This kid does a wonderful job. I mean, you guys
avers Ends. You got the Knipple brothers, Kjer and Kingston,
I mean, and their seniors are good too. You know,
they got Langbartell's, Alex Green Melock and I'm sure I'm
missing a couple of melo. They do a wonderful job.
And Ryan does a wonderful job jelling everybody together too.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
He does. And it's interesting because years ago he would
go twelve deep like it was like a hockey thing
with him. And I asked him about it, because he's
going eight nine deep right now, maybe seven sometimes, but
he said, look, we go with right now. These guys
are really jelling and they're getting it. Watching that team
play against a pretty good Pewaukee team, not as good

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as they have been. And David does a great job
over there. And David got a little frustrated midway through
the second half, because I think with six minutes to go,
he took the kids, you know at the end of
the bench that let's go, you guys, go and finish
this thing out. And he didn't. He barely shook my
hand after. And he's a good dude, like you know, well, well,

(28:10):
will sit and talk for a while. Didn't want any
part of me after that game, And I think you
just want to get to the locker room and get
home and figure out, you know, get his team ready
for the playoffs and stuff like that. But Wisconsin Lutheran, look,
they they're one of the best teams in the state again.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
Oh yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
I mean the team they've only lost twice, one to
a team from Minnesota and then to West Alis Central.
I mean, they beat to Pier who's only has one loss,
one of the better teams in Division one too. I
will be surprised just from the outside looking in. Maybe
it's my bias from the conference that either Whisko or
Whack do not get the state out of that sectional.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Hey, did you find Melasics teams are always playing their
best basketball? Right about this time, he got, Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
I mean they're always peaking. You know, they take some
time to gel sometimes. But you know this group especially
they're younger. They don't have a ton of seniors, but
their experienced too. They've got a lot of guys who
played his freshman UND.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
I'm a huge use of Gray Junior.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
I was phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
He was in He was our Pick and Safe Student
Athlete of the Week, and we met. I met his
mom and dad and him and he had talked about
on the ear that I said, look, I watch your
dad play. He was really good. Who you guys play
one on one? He goes, he's oh, he's slow. I'd
whoop him right we left. He comes into Pick and Save,
he goes, get me a gym. I'll show this boy.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
I thought.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
The most impressive thing about him when we played them
twice is he's obviously an extremely talented offensive player, but
he's one of the best defensive players I've seen in
our conference.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
And he just gets after it.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Do you know My favorite part? When I met his
mom and dad and Andy gave him his plaque for
our Pick and Safe Student Athlete the Week. I pulled
his mom aside and I said, boy, did you do good?
He thanked me three times when he was in studio,
shook my hand and she said he's a work in progress.
And I said, he's a student athlete. What do you
mean he's a work in progress. She said, his room's

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a mess. He is a work in progress. And I'm
not let And the pride she had and the love
she had for her son when he was sitting where
you're sitting. Text Jr. One, who's the assistant coach at
Iowa State, took a picture of him and said, hey,
I'm recommending that he takes that to Paul Offer and
Jr's like, coach, don't do that to me.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
Man.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
I want that kid. He's a cyclone. I want him
coming over this way. Hey, Catholic Memorial, Kyle, how are
you guys playing right now? And it's a young team,
but at this point the sophomores aren't real sophomores, kind
of playing enough basketball to maybe be considered a juniors.
But your team right now, you play a lot of
young guys. How you feeling where you're at right now?

Speaker 2 (30:30):
I'm feeling really good at where we're at right now.
We do have six sophomores on the team that play
a lot. You know, we are a young team, but
we are jelling together.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
Right.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Like, I know you said our sophomores aren't sophomores anymore. Well,
I definitely agree with that. Like we have Dustin Roach
who's plays almost every minute for us and does a
fantastic job. Jackson Alby last year was a freshman with
us too as well, and he's playing really well. We are,
We're scoring well. We scored fifty eight points in the
second half yesterday. Were really figuring it out offensively. I

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may or may not have taken a few things from
Ryan offensively.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
I hope you did.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
I hope you But we definitely are starting to figure
out we're sharing the ball. We got four guys and
double figures. You know, it's always kind of the next
man up in our mentality and how we play, and
it will always be preached constantly, whether we're playing fast
or not.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
We have to defend it.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
And if you can defend, you're gonna you're gonna be
in every single game.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
So Ketl Moraine on top of the conference playing really
well and beaten teams by a lot and defensively playing well, Uh,
the team in your conference right now that if if
i'm if I get them in the playoffs, I'm like
I think Arrowheads playing pretty well right now.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, Arrowheads definitely.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Is and has been around a while. And to talk
about coaches in your conference, you got some really good
coaches in that in your conference. Sarni does a nice job,
right Ha's he kind of quiet right now? You know,
started out not great and all of a sudden you
start looking at how they're playing. I'm not sure i'd
want them in the first.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
No, I definitely wouldn't want them in the first round.
They're one that you know, they're improving. They're way better
than where they were from.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
The beginning of the year.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
To their experience, they've been the state numerous times, they've
won the gold Ball, they took second last year. Their experience,
you know, so having that is very very important. They're
in a tough section al though, like so there's no
offense or bus about that. But I would not want
to play them.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
I saw mcguanag go on on Thursday against Waterford and
I think they were up sixteen four to start the gain.
They couldn't miss, you know, boom boombo. They had four
guys the first four possessions, four different players hit a three.
Waterford settled in a little bit Waterford's kind of physical
and I liked the refereeing in this game because they

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were very consistent and let it be a little bit physical,
not dirty, not chippy. But I think Waterford kind of
like got into mcguanago's head a little bit and look,
you're not going to continue to shoot that way. Waterford
came back to the lead before half and then one
by fifteen twenty something like that. But mcguanagh go is
a team and I got a chance, I had not

(33:06):
met their coach before, went over and introduced myself. Well,
mcgwanagh is a team that can shoot it. Man, They're
a pretty good team.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Yeah, they're They're a very good team. They can shoot it.
They're a senior led team. They've got a bunch of seniors,
so they're ready to kind of go and take the
next step in the playoffs. They also had one of
their better players pulling. They hurt with a you know,
he sprained his MCL, so he should be back this
week and that's just going to add a lot for
them because he gets them a low, low presence and

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he can step out and shoot the three, and he's
a really tremendous player.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Hey, did you know coming into this conference what you
were coming into.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, I did. It is physical. It's you know, people
always want to talk about, hey, this is the most
physical conference. I didn't really truly believe that until I
came in. But it the way it's officiated, the way
it's done, it's like sometimes it's like a football game
out there. To be honest with you and.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Catholic, but Moore, you boys are okay with that.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah, you know, they're okay with that. Obviously. We love
the physicality we you know, and our defense. That's what
we want to do. We want to be physical, We
want to get after it and that really gets us
bold ready for our.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Playoffrountkay if somebody asks you what kind of coach you are?
Do you do you develop? You know, you look at
your talent and then you say, okay, we're now we're
going to get the ball down the floor quickly if offensively,
you know, let's let's get six passes before we shoot.
What kind of coach do you think you are?

Speaker 2 (34:24):
You know, I switched to each team, like which team
we have? Are we going to play fast? Are we
going to play slow?

Speaker 1 (34:28):
What are we going to do?

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Like last year with our inexperience we had and how
young we were too. We're still young. We had to
play defense and we had to pride ourselves. So we
won games in the fifties or below the fifties.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
I want the gairty you dick ben it right, Yeah,
I'm the line with the line averaging line seventy points
a game this year.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
No, I don't want that, so, like you know, that
was to my extent. Here is this year. You know,
we've got guys who can really shoot it and so
we play. We we have three dudes shooting forty percent
from three, so it really helps us. And we have
a big man in Jake Berkholt who is very very
hard to guard down low. You know, we played mcgwonago
he had twenty six points and thirteen rebounds, so like

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you know, last night he had nineteen points against North.
So we we're doing really good things. We spread the
ball out well, we find out mismatches and we can
shoot it and that how that hurts defensive teams?

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Hey, Ryan, what kind of how about you kind of coach?
You like to h you like to get nidy, right.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Yeah, we like to play fast, like we like we
like to get up and down. You know, we like
to get up and down. I we probably could at
times play significantly better defense. Okay, but you know that
is why I will have you know, bounced some things
off Kyle's here and try to get things like that.
You know, last night we held Pious in the fifties

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there you go, which was a good job. Now looking
back at a few other games, I think Pewaukee scored
one hundred on us the first time we played them, which.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Came back and beat them though we did there you go.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
But so no, like we we typically we just like
to play faster. We like to play a little five out.
We shoot a lot of threes. I mean I think
one of our kids sold us one stat like where
I mean in the top three or four and threes
made in the state, you know, which is sometimes personnel
driven to But we like to get up and down.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
We like to play fast.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
We like to shuit, you know, we like to you know,
I'm not like sitting here going oh like analytics this
and that.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
I mean it's the high school game. But like you
try to take good shots.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
You inside out is that we got.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
You got to try to get paint touches, right, like
however that may be, whether it's you know, dribble penetration,
whether it's post up, whether it's some slips, offensive rebounds.

Speaker 5 (36:28):
You know, you can't. We try to get a good mix.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
You know. There's sometimes will go to halftime and to
look at our shot chart and it's like, you know,
we've taken twenty five threes to five twos and it's
like that's not sustainable, you know, So we try to
do a good mix of that.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
How would you feel if they put the shot clock in?

Speaker 5 (36:43):
I love it. I've been I wish we would have
a shot happen.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
I'm okay with that.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
I've been preaching the shot clock for the last seven
eight years, right, and it just it it's better for
the game.

Speaker 5 (36:54):
It's better for the kids, you know.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
I've been around a lot of AU stuff now with
my daughter playing stuff, and you see what the shot
clock does in there, and it just it creates better
environment for players. And it also like when the games,
you know, get close, like we have played against teams
where it's you know, four or five minutes left in
the game, they'll spread you out, they'll go four corners
and they're up like.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
Eight or nine.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Yeah, and you can do that right now with no
shot clock. You can't really do that with the shot
clock because the game, the game flow is just there.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah, and that's I agree one hundred percent with that, right,
Like you can throw out junk defenses. I'll do this
when you know, we played Racine Park when they had
Noble Days and all that. We did a triangle in
two when I was at Oak Creek and we were
down two with three minutes left. We're they're struggling shooting
the basketball. With that situation, now they hold the ball out,
we have to go out and play man and they're quicker,

(37:44):
they're faster, So then then you lose that way, Like
to his point in credit, it's absolutely the truth. You
with the shot clock, you play better defense. So you'll
have to play defense for thirty five seconds not two minutes.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Right. And look, you guys played at the college level
where you played with a shot clock, and that that's
a big learning curve when you're a freshman at Oshkatch.
Right now, all of a sudden, I remember my son
going to Maranatha and playing and he was their point
guard and he said that this is different, like, all
of a sudden, there's eight seconds on the shot clock,
and I got the ball on top, and you know,

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I'm trying to just get into fourteen low right a
flat so I can just make something happen. But I've
got as a point guard, I've got to keep my
eye on that shot clock. And then once he got
once he learned what it felt like, he goes, Man,
why didn't we have this in high school?

Speaker 3 (38:33):
And I think you look around in other states, from
the other states around us have it too, right.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
It's just like it feels like we're somewhat behind at times.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
And I don't understand quite the negatives about it. You know,
I understand people are talking about costs and this and that,
but it's like people have found ways to do stuff.
I mean, almost everybody has field turf nowadays anyways, and it's.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
And now they're you know, building indoor facitsy.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
And you you don't have to have this state of
the art thing.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
You can literally have a you know, side scoreboards running
the shot clocks and make your freshman coach run the
shot clock.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
That's it. Hey, we're gonna get to you. Guys have
coached against each other twice, is that correct?

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (39:10):
Both at Greenfield when he was at Greenfield.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
I'm sorry and and your record one in one, but
we did. We got to get a third game. It's
a it's a tie break. Here, here's the truth. Here's
the truth.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
If it was up to Kyle, Kyle would play us
probably every year. Wow the the well, no, hear me out.
The first time we played green Dealver's Greenfield, Greenfield won
and like my parents, our family were like.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
Hey, let's all go out for pizza, Let's do this,
that and the other. I'm like, get out of here.
I'm not going off for pizza. We just lost. So
then the following year when we won, I'm like, hey,
where's everybody, let's go for pizza. And then nobody wanted
to be found. You know, it's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
One thing was rude, your parents. Who are they rooting for?

Speaker 2 (39:50):
By the way, just a good game and then nothing crazy.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Now you don't think the younger boys who they are.
You know, Mom's hugging and.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah you said it, and I mean, but well, you
know there's one thing, like, you know, we beat Ryan,
I get Tom Creans right past me real quick with
a quick handshake to talk to my guy fast or
we go to their place. They beat us, I'm hugging
them like, hey, great job, da da da da da.
He goes, whoa whoa, Oh, now you can talk, you

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can hang out like They'll say, like, hey, it's We'll
adjust the pictures and everything.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
After I'm gonna set up a game for next year,
and I'm gonna sell tickets for a foundation or for
a nonprofit. Trust me, I think it would be really fun.
I'm gonna sit right in the middle of the family,
and I have no dog in the fight. I just
want to see the interactions. Guys. Let's get to a
break in studio. I've asked these guys to please do this,
and I appreciate their willingness to come in studio. Kyle Johnson,

(40:45):
he's the head basketball coach at Catholic Memorial. Ryan Johnson
his brother, his older brother because Mommy likes the baby right.
Are you the baby by the way.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
No, we have a sister who's the Who's the baby boy? Though, yes,
I'm the baby baby boy.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
They're hugging him, you know, when when you beat him,
they all went to his house and they, you know,
hugged him and did this whole year intervention. We're gonna
get to a break. Will continue on the other side.
This is the Varsity Blitz High School Sports Show presented
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Welcome back to the Varsy Blitz High School Sports Show
presented by your local Pick and Save and Metro Market stores.
Coming from the Din and the Jordanson, he didn't cooling studios.
Sometimes I wish we could go live with what we
talked about during the breaks. Boys. You know, really you're
kind of more of a high school insidery than I
with the Freddie Owens. Freddie Owen stepped down as a

(41:42):
head coach at Kimberly.

Speaker 7 (41:44):
Oh he did.

Speaker 5 (41:44):
Was just see his tweet. It wasn't like you no
know what.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
He's been working this story all night and slept.

Speaker 8 (41:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Man, he is involved in high school athletics. My special
guests for the entire first hour. Kyle Johnson had basketball
coach at Catholic Memorial. Ryan Johnson the head basketball coach
at Greendale. Kyle, You've bet you've coached a couple of schools. Ryan,
Greendale has been it right for you.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
I was a Greendale sistant, and then the JV coach,
and then I actually before Greendale spent one year as
the varsity coach.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
I cut it, okay, and then came.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
I came fourteen years ago or so fifteen years ago.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Man, the part about building a program for you compared
to when you first took over the varsity job, you
kind of know what the youth program has to be.
How involved in the youth program are you in Greendale?

Speaker 5 (42:35):
I would say pretty involved.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
I mean I'm actually the Greendale third grade boys coach
because my son's there, so involved with there, and we
got a great group of people who help us out,
and you just kind of stay involved with the community.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
So you go from coaching varsity and a Friday night
to a third grade game.

Speaker 5 (42:51):
Oh yeah, we got three games today.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Actually, how different are you as you're not standing in
the you haven't got any teas in the third grade?

Speaker 5 (43:01):
No, I've not got any teas in the third grade game.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Have you gotten any t's this year on the varsity level?

Speaker 5 (43:06):
Oh yeah, okay at Pewaukee the first time.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Okay, I'm gonna give you a passion on that one.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
You know that, But no, I mean it's a lot
so I coach obviously the varsity. I coach read my
son's third grade team. My daughter is a seventh grader.
I coach her team, and then I coach her a
you team as well, so we're all over the joint.
And then I help out coach my son's a You team.
I mean, it's it's everywhere. I mean I go Friday night,
will have a game, and then literally anywhere from five

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to eight games on the weekend.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
A son and daughter multi sport athletes.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
You think, yeah, my son does like flight football and stuff, Charlie,
my daughter plays soccer.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
So yeah, and that's awesome. Are you you coach anywhere else?

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah? So I I actually coached the third grade Catholic
Memorial team, So my son played. Yeah, my son's in
first grade place didn't play one Greendale it your son's yeah,
yeah yeah so and then yeah, I also coach a
youth baseball organization called Walk Angels, So I coach that.
I coached the youth sevent team there. Yeah, yep. Let's

(44:08):
it's really close.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
For years to get him to come in because for
during the baseball stuff. Baseball coaches are different, man. You know,
we talk. You guys want to come in. Yeah, sure,
we'll come in. I call a baseball guy. They're like, you,
you want to talk to me for an hour? Nobody
watched times for now. It's so they always have that
weird baseball talk. Let me go, Yeah, you know, hey,

(44:30):
we want to pitch it out a bell? Yeah, all
that stuff that I don't really get. But I'm telling you,
baseball guys are finally starting to understand that I just
want to highlight and celebrate. Let's I've tried three four
times in finalance to forget it. Obviously, Well, I'll bring
him and he can come in with me. We can
talk it together.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Walking Angel is pretty good or it's a great organization
for what they do for kids just development wise, it's
it's the best youth baseball organization around. But also like
just what I watched to see kids with you know
that are unfortunate can't play or need help with things
like they do things that way, and that to me
is just absolutely fantastic.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
So guys, you know, one of the reasons I wanted
to have you guys in is say thank you and
understand that you don't know what your reputation is out
in the coaching world because you can just kind of
do your deal, but I can tell you that it's
it's a really high level that people talk about you
guys behind your back, and the way you guys run

(45:27):
your teams, the way you run your programs. And I
liked talk. I like the smack talk. That's what I
like myself. But I can tell you that I wanted
to have you guys in to say thank you for
the work that you do, not only in high school athletics,
but then youth sports in our community. And the idea
that look, we neither one of you getting paid one

(45:47):
point two million to coach these teams. Right, you end
up losing money and I don't. I'll have that conversation
with anybody. We end up losing money at the end
of this thing, right, the amount of time you put in,
the amount of high rides and dinners and all the stuff.
But thank you for what you guys do. I really
appreciate the work that you do and and and the
mentorship that you have for some of these kids. You'll

(46:11):
get kids coming, you know, fourteen years ago your coach
a kid who's now got kids of his own that
will come back to you and say, coach, thank you
that that always means the most.

Speaker 6 (46:19):
It is.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
It is crazy to see some some former players who
are now married with kids.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
It's like, holy cow, but not that.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Even my wife and back well when you started, we
had our so it's like the same thing. It's just
it's just I still look at them sometimes as the
high school player.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Correct. Yeah, that's very very true.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Yeah, hey guys, thank you, good luck, Thank you for
having us to sleep here. In the next couple of
weeks for either one of you and I know that
you'd be talking to each other about breaking down film
and what would you do against this and that, and
I kind of I kind of am envious of having
the relationship you guys have and the kind of fun
and the fact that you know, the mom likes the

(46:55):
youngest boy the most. Is that's the That's what I've
For the record.

Speaker 5 (46:58):
I've never said that, but you said it.

Speaker 8 (47:00):
I know.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
But you keep telling me, you keep shaking your head.
Don't forget what you said during the break. Yeah, is
it true that you get better Christmas gifts?

Speaker 6 (47:08):
No?

Speaker 2 (47:09):
No, not a chance, absolutely not. Tell me he gets
the best Christmas presents. Actually, our sister does.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Yeah, there you go. She is the Spoiled one boys.
Thank you. It's really good to see you guys. Keep
up the good work and look in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yeah, thank you so much. Thanks for having us, and
thanks you for everything you do for HGH school sports.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
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(47:44):
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(48:05):
we're gonna talk to Craig Hardin, who's going to be
on the boys Basketball Selection show tomorrow that'll be aired
on My twenty four. And Rocky Wagenhurst, who is the
VP and general manager of Sinclair Broadcasting Group, will be
in studio. They're going to not only cover that show tomorrow,
but all state championship games from wrestling our matches to wrestling, hockey,

(48:28):
girls and boys basketball, and we'll talk to Rocky about
what that's going to look like. Our current electric superhero
the week, and let me tell you a quick story
about our this week's winner. So I had somebody lined
up and I got a call and said, hey, we're
not gonna be able to do it this week, and
so I thought, well, we'll have a week off. And
I was doing the game on nine to twenty over

(48:49):
at Wisconsin Lutheran and hunt out a little bit with
Noah Hubner, who is the tight end for the football
team going to Martin luther College and really good kid.
And I sat with them and talked for a while
and said, hey, tell me about other than football. You're
a good student. He goes, yeah, I'm a really good student.
Do you have that servant leadership hard to you? And
he kind of looked at me like, why are you
asking me this?

Speaker 6 (49:09):
Boy?

Speaker 1 (49:10):
And I said, just just bear with me. Now I've
got a reason to ask you for this. And he
started telling me about the number of things that he's
involved in, including a number of missions trips that he
has made that certainly, you know, my ears perked up
a little bit because faith is a very important part
of this young man's life. And I said, no, let

(49:30):
me tell you about this current Electric superhero the week.
Do you have any interest? He goes absolutely, And I go,
you got to do some work for me. He goes,
that's all right, I'm not afraid of that. And to
get a picture. How to get the bio that's up
on current Electric Facebook page right now if you get
a chance to go to that Facebook page and read
the bio on Noah, because we're not going to have

(49:50):
enough time to go through all the things that are
important to him. Know how you doing today? Doing great?
Are you doing? Yeah? Thanks for doing this, of course
I really appreciate it. Hey talk a little bit about
the years at Wisconsin Lutheran. Your mom and dad met
there and now they're teachers there. Your dad's one of
the coaches on the football team, which I love. But

(50:11):
you did you knew you were going to Wisconsin Lutheran
from an early age? Yeah? I did. And football has
been important to you.

Speaker 9 (50:17):
One of my most important favorite things to do.

Speaker 6 (50:20):
And you're a multi You were a multi sport. I
was a multi sporty not so much anymore. I do
track now, so that's mostly just for training for football stootball.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
I was told when we did the game, I think
it was Grafton at Wisconsin Lutheran, I was told, watch
the tight end from Wisconsin Lutheran. He's a Division one kid.
And I did, and man, really talented football player. And
you made the decision to go to Martin luther Correct.

(50:50):
Tell me a little bit about why that decision.

Speaker 6 (50:53):
So my uncle there, he's the head coach there, beautiful.
So I've had my dad here as a coach for
multiple sports for I would say maybe ten, ten, twelve
or something like that. It's been a very long time,
and so that's always been a very important thing for
me to have like my dad or a relative as
a head coach, because you know, it's just strong base.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Yeah. Family. You know what that tells me about the
two that are here, your mom and dad, and I
think Phil and I think back in. I thank your
friend for coming in, your sister for coming in. But look,
I'm a grandfather of six and I coached for a
long time, and I understand the family dynamic, and I
love the fact that that's why you're going there, because
being around family is really really important. How did you

(51:33):
like your dad coaching you for all those years? Now?
You could be honest because those days are over now.
But his brother's going to be the is it your
brother is my cousin? Your cousin. Okay, his cousin's going
to make the decision whether you're getting time or not.
Be careful with this answer. How did you was that? Look,
I coached my son in basketball and it wasn't all
rainbows and butterflies. I had to adjust because I was

(51:58):
the adult in the room. I'm wondering how that's been
for you.

Speaker 9 (52:02):
I mean it's I always loved it.

Speaker 6 (52:05):
Just the amount of times after practice when we would
just spend time together on the couch or on the
dining room table, especially during the high school years in
football and stuff like that, just you know, watching films,
you know kind of what's the game plan is for
the week and stuff like that.

Speaker 9 (52:18):
How we're trying to incorporate stuff.

Speaker 6 (52:20):
It's kind of nice having your dad as a offensive
coordinator who helps calls play, so then you get a
little bit of how has it been for you coaching?

Speaker 1 (52:27):
What was it doing?

Speaker 7 (52:28):
Yeah, really awesome and super special as someone who went
to the high school and played at the high school
and then being back coaching, that's already nostalgic, but then
having Noah on the sideline. Actually, since we've been back
in Wisconsin, he was our water boy from fourth grade
all the way through eighth grade and then playing in
the program. So it's been just special all the way through.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
No The two guys that I had in before you,
the head basketball coach at Greendale and the head basketball
coach at Catholic Memorial have young sons, ones in third grade,
ones in first grade. And I always had my son
as a ball right. You come to practice, get a
feel for what this is, look up at these guys
like their NBA players, and then dream about playing at

(53:08):
that level. Did you remember those days as a little ballplayer?

Speaker 6 (53:12):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (53:12):
Yeah, I do. I have specific memories.

Speaker 8 (53:14):
You know.

Speaker 9 (53:15):
It was like twenty sixteen.

Speaker 6 (53:16):
It was like one of my first years when we
first moved up to here, and I remember we were
at cathl Memorial and I just saw like these huge
players and we just had one of those players just
have their jersey hung up in uh Wisco the other day,
So I mean they just looked like, you know, NFL players,
you know, the greatest football players of all time.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
And you understand that when you're at pick and shave
next door to Wisconsin Luthern, that there are kids that
are in your youth program that see you in the
pros department. I mean that role model part. I hope
that you understand, whether you want to be a role
model or not, there are kids in third and fourth
grade that point to you and go, that's who I
want to be. Yeah, that's and I hope that you

(53:55):
take that seriously. I do, Yeah, I do. I take
that seriously, and it gets where that comes from right here. Hey,
that servant leadership hard, and we're going to get into
this that you have. That's not something we're born with.
I believe that it's a learned behavior and I'm wondering
where you learned it from.

Speaker 10 (54:12):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (54:12):
Definitely learned it from my mom and dad for sure, well.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
And they're both in the school and the fact that
they met at Wisconsin Lutheran. I love that talk a
little bit about some of the mission trips that you've
been on. I'm really impressed. And when we talked the
other day, I said, look, you're coming into a safe space.
We can talk the whole time about your faith side,
because that's very important to me as well. But you've

(54:36):
been on a number been on ten trips, and some
of the places you've been have been incredible. Talk to
me about why going on mission trips are important to you.

Speaker 6 (54:46):
Uh Oh, I think that's one of my favorite things
to do, even more than like playing football or something
like that, just going to you know, maybe for example,
last year we went to the Philippines, you know, going
there and going into the community, taking surveys, you know,
just kind of what life is like, what we need
to improve on, how we can help in the community,
and stuff like that. Going to an orphanage then and

(55:07):
helping out with uh stuff, they're teaching some English, teaching
some Bible lessons, telling them God's where It's just very
important to me.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
Do you know what I find And I'll ask you
this when you started giving back and look, you're with
reading Buddy's program at Wisconsin Lutheran. You go and read
children's books to kids at grade schools in the Milwaukee area.
You're a three seven student for four years. The student
athletes side very important to you. You're also part of
the Viking Christian Leadership Academy, which again we had that conversation.

(55:40):
But what I'm what I find out with with current
electric superheroes of the week is once they start giving
back and volunteering, you get more out of it than
maybe the people you're helping. Correct.

Speaker 9 (55:51):
Yeah, that's one hundred percent trough.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Hey, Becky, can you come to the microphone real quick?
So I told you I was going to put you
on in and you said, don't make me cry, and
I'm not going to, but well maybe I will, who knows.
But I want you to know that I sat. Yeah,
I just told it. We sprayed it with some WD
so it would move a little, and now it's moving

(56:14):
a lot. I sat and talked to your son for
fifteen minutes. And I deal with high school kids a
lot when I coached, and now in studio, this young
man looked me right in the eye, said thank you,
shook my hand, did all the stuff that you hope. Look,
when our kids can't smell our alone or our perfume,

(56:36):
we don't know really what they're like. And I would
ask everybody, I want you to know something you did good.
You did really good. This kid, I felt like I
was talking to one of my buddies, right, and I'm
a old grandfather of six, and We're having conversations about
the school and the basketball team and life and things
that are important to him. And he never went yeah, yeah,

(56:57):
I don't know, you got to talk to my parents.
He looked me right in the eyes, said thank you
a couple of times for for this opportunity, and I
want you to know that. Like his room might be
a mess, I don't care, but I'm you, guys did
really good, and I want to say thank you for that.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Well thanks that.

Speaker 5 (57:13):
That really means a lot. We've we've seen what a
cool kid he is. His sister Gwen is also another.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
She'll be here in three years then, right? Is she
a student athlete as well?

Speaker 7 (57:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (57:26):
What does she play?

Speaker 5 (57:27):
Volleyball and track?

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Yeah? Yep, so no basketball? Who would win in basketball
if you played her one on one? By the way, okay, no,
she shaking her head. Good for you over there, good
for you. But being a student athlete is is it
hard to be in the school of the school where
your kids are at? Is it harder for them or

(57:49):
harder for you?

Speaker 11 (57:49):
Do you think, I don't know if it's super hard.
There are certainly times where it might be a little awkward,
you know, being a teacher there. I'll tell stories about
the kids because I try and be very real life
and very realistic on you know, what's going on, and
that I'm a person too.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
I'm not just this stage on the stage doing things
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (58:14):
So I'm also very and so has failed, very cognizant
of the fact that they are students at the school
and their business or our business, you know, good bad
also sometimes needs to be just that. But it's it's
neat to be able to see them walking down the
hallways and I get how.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Hard was it when his football career in the high
school ended?

Speaker 4 (58:34):
For you?

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Was last year a difficult one because normally, as a
father and a mother, we sit in the crowd together
and we you know, we can like, hold, hey, no,
this is it. I coached my son kind of like
your husband his senior year in high school in basketball,
and when it was senior night, I don't really go
into the locker room at halftime, not old on. I
get to do what oh I got to walk out

(58:55):
and have a rose and then it hit me and
it was very difficult. I'm wondering how that was for you.

Speaker 11 (59:00):
Oh I was in the stand sobbing, just absolutely laughing
over there.

Speaker 5 (59:05):
It was like, yeah, I didn't expect to be.

Speaker 11 (59:10):
It wasn't a sad uh, you know, woe is Me,
woe is them kind of a thing, but just that
realization of it was a special team. It was a
special time for Noah and for Phil to be able
to hang out together, have those conversations and just spend
such great quality time together.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
So it was just sad our Colonel Electric, Superhero of
the week. He is nobody, Noah Hubner. I'm trying to
go too fashion man, Sorry about that. Noah Hubner from
Wisconsin Lutheran High School in his bio and and the
line for me and and look, it's a really cool bio.
And I would highly recommend. He's a good looking kid.

(59:50):
Go go to Facebook, go to current Electric. I know
his buddy from the football team, shaking his head, going now,
I was a good looking as I who's your friend?

Speaker 9 (59:56):
By the way, Henry Shamanski, Henry going to.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Where's he going to play? Going to Claire and he
is a wide receiver. He didn't have to hit people
like you did. Right, He's one of the pretty boys. Yeah, yeah, Ei.
There you go in his bio. In Noah's bio and
if you go to the current Electric page, there's two
lines for me. When he talks about the missions trips,
He's done ten of them over the past eight years.

(01:00:21):
Each trip was focused on helping in serving churches, communities,
or children in need. His faith is vital and more
important than anything else to him, and he loves to
give glory God the glory for all he does. The
fact that you're seven, eighteen, eighteen years old and you're
willing to put that in a bio that I'm going

(01:00:41):
to tell everybody that's listening to go read. You're not
running from that, And I kind of like that part
of who you are and to be able to say, look,
he loves to give God the glory and all he
does tells me a lot about the mission and the
soul of who you are. You're going to carry that
over into the college level, Yes, sir, You're going to

(01:01:02):
reach out to fellowship a Christian athletes look on faith
in the zone. The show that I do that air
Sundays from A to nine. I talk to men and
women all over the country that are involved in sports
and they'll get and they'll share their testimony on this
on a secular sports station, and a number of these
guys talk about Look, I accepted Jesus Christ my personal

(01:01:22):
savior when I was eight and carried it pretty well
in high school. But then I got the freedom. I
was four hours away from my family and things went
sideways a little bit. And what happened on this campus
that I've reached out and found fellow believers and that
got me back. So I'm hoping that when you know
your mom's not waking up making you a nice, warm
breakfast and your dad's not saying get in the weight room,

(01:01:45):
that you're going to be able to be strong enough
in your faith to carry that over.

Speaker 6 (01:01:49):
Yeah, that was another thing with the decision. So my
dad's cousin, he's also a believer and much into faith
just like we are. So that's another reminder and support
I can have well on there. You know, you know,
make sure you make sure you get the churche to Sunday.
You can always follow up with the Bible said it
or something like that. That's another strong rock I can.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Have excited about. First of all, Wisconsin Lutheran. Who's got
you fully prepared for the next level academically, socially, the
mission stuff that you guys, that you do. You feel
pretty confident about this next chapter. Very confident. Yep, you
can play at that level. I think you think you're
getting on the field that first year. Oh yeah, oh yeah,

(01:02:28):
everybody's how about your boys? He gonna get on the field.
Lit Claire, you think I'm praying? Yeah, you're praying, you're praying.
Did he he think about following you to Martin Luther
or is Oh Claire was a good spot?

Speaker 9 (01:02:39):
He definitely thought about it for a long amount of time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
If it wasn't Martin Luther, what was your second choice?

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (01:02:45):
Probably u W Whitewater.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Okay, okay, So you could have you could have played
against him, definitely would have played against special teams. You
have lit him up? Right? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, what's
he saying?

Speaker 6 (01:02:56):
So the thing is as at my school, Martin Luther College,
we have on non conference game at UW eau Claire
week three.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Oh man, you're gonna be who did wins that game?

Speaker 9 (01:03:09):
I'm with you I'm hoping to.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
You are you are hoping? Do you know what you
want to go into school? Wise? Teaching?

Speaker 9 (01:03:16):
Teaching and coaching.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Both parents are spiling guys, you did good, you did good.
You're gonna you want to be a football coach or
a football coach? Yep, unbelievable. Hey, Becky, what do you
do in the school?

Speaker 11 (01:03:29):
By the way, I am an interpersonal communications teacher? So
I have the entire sophomore class and we talk about
communication and how what that looks like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
We could have brought the whole class in here. You
know what, I'll get your copy of the show. This
can take. Look, you don't even have to teach. You
can just play the class one time and then talk
about the questions I've had. I could use help with
that whole interpersonal communicator. Yeah, I can't change the oil
in my car, but I just keep asking questions like this,
when do you leave for school?

Speaker 9 (01:04:00):
I believe August twelfth or sixteen, someone.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
In that range. Do you know who your roommate is?

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
Yet?

Speaker 9 (01:04:06):
I do know who my roommate is.

Speaker 6 (01:04:07):
So this area he's not from the area he's from
He's from Minnesota, and it's kind of met up with
him through my through my coach, and he's a really
cool guy.

Speaker 9 (01:04:15):
And I like to talk about are.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
You gonna Are you going to be part of the
track and field team this year? Yeah? I will be?
You will? And what do you do in that?

Speaker 9 (01:04:22):
I do shot put? In discuss, of course you do
you throw a little bit? Yep, got a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
I watched you play. You don't mind hitting people? By
the way, oh that you don't shy away from You
would not be what's considered a catch only tight end.
And at Wisconsin Lutheran you got If you're a tight end,
you got to be able to block and you got
to be able to hit as well. Your that was
a pretty good team this year.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
Fun.

Speaker 9 (01:04:45):
This is the most fun and football I've ever had
in my life.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Really. Yeah, man, good for you. That's awesome. Hey, guys,
thank you. What happens now is at the end of
the year, we take all the current electric superheroes of
the week and I put their picture and Bayo in
front of the foundation and they will pick one superhero
the year and offer a five thousand scholar five thousand
dollars scholarship to the school of their choice. And you'll

(01:05:09):
be in the running for that, and I think you
keep up the Hey, if you had to go on
one Missions trip, if you had to go back to
one of the places you went, where would you go
back to?

Speaker 9 (01:05:19):
I would probably say Zambia in Africa?

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
Really why? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:05:24):
So, I mean, besides like the cool stuff we got
to visit. On the side, it was really cool just
to go into the community and you know, go out
in the middle of nowhere and just see all these
people and all the kids just singing their hearts out
and stuff like that in a hut church with a
pastor who had a walk ten miles or so at
a church, and it was just really cool to see

(01:05:45):
them all together.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
And what a hurt for the Lord that guy has.
Huh Yeah, I drive ten miles, I cramp up. You
know that, Because I'm kidding, I do not. Guys, you
did good. I look forward to having your daughter three
years from now. It's our next current elector super here.
She's got to get that volunteer work going, is what
she's got to do. So Noah, thank you so much.
Noah Hubner. Here's this week's Colonel Electric Superhero the Week,

(01:06:09):
and guys, if you haven't done it, before go to
the Kernel Electric Facebook page. It's a good looking kid,
big smile and when you read his bio, I look,
it happens every week, guys. I at the beginning of
this interview, I always feel like, man, I'm such a loser.
Like I'm reading these bios and what happens and it's
happened again this week. Is how I feel. If you

(01:06:31):
go away, you go to Martin Luther up in Minnesota,
and you go to school, and you come back to
our area and now you're one of the new leaders
in our community. My grandkids are going to be just fine.
Thank you, Thank you. I appreciate you a lot. Good
luck and track and field that won't be nearly as
emotional for you. Becky when it the last time he
goes to right, if it is, please get a picture

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and send it to me. Guys, thank you so much.
We're going to get to a break. Other side of
the break, Craig Harden and Rocky Wagan her they are
going to join us. We're going to talk about the
boys Sectional show that's going to air tomorrow with basketball
and Christ's part of that show, and Rocky's the VP
and general manager at Sinclaara and my twenty four. He's
my boss, so I better say really nice things about him.

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We'll get to that on the other side of the break.
This is the Varsity Blitz High School Sports Show, presented
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and Hitty Cooleen Studios. I want to thank Noah Hubner
and his family, mom, dad, sister, is buddy who's going
to Eclaire did a great job. Is this week's Colonel
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and read that bio. This young guy he's eighteen years old,
senior in high school, been on ten mission strips and
gives back to our community like crazy. He is a

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really good it's a tight end. He'll go to Martin
Luther up in Minnesota, play for his uncle, and pretty
confident he'll get down the field as a freshman, and
that would not surprise me at all. We're now joined
by two guys that've met. I've known Craig Harden a
long time. Have not talked to Craig for a bit,
so it's really good to catch up with him. Craig Harden,
who's going to be on tomorrow's basketball high school basketball

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selection show that will air live at ten am on
My twenty four here in the city. So I also
have Rocky Waganhurst, the VP General manager of Sinclair Broadcast Group.
You can tune at ten o'clock tomorrow morning. If you're
in church, record it, record it. I'm gonna start with you, Craig.
It's good to see you again, brother. How you been.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
I've been good.

Speaker 10 (01:08:42):
It's good to be alive, good to be hurt, right
to be here to talk a little high school basketball?

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
Well, yeah, can you still hit a jump shot? It's
look fit, you look like you shoot it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:52):
It's a little running by making a jump shot.

Speaker 10 (01:08:55):
I'm chasing my sons and my little daughter around in
the backyard nowadays, but sally shooting.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
Catch me on a golf course. That's probably pretty much
my new sport now.

Speaker 7 (01:09:04):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
I played eighteen yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
Did you wow?

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Have you been to the it's called Gastrips the airport,
So you're hitting it out to a driving range with
the tracer, so it's not into a screen. She can
watch the flight. Oh yeah, I got last year's the
first year I got kind of hooked into golf. And yeah,
I mean think about how cold it was, but they
have the heaters. Yeah, man, I love it. I love it.

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By the way, you you and your wife make beautiful children.
You know that, right, And I give her a lot
of credit, right, I'm just telling you, Yeah, she gets
a lot gets credit.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
And so she keeps the old house going, she keeps
the family moving, just like most women.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:09:45):
They're the backbones of my life and whether it's my
mom and my daughters, and so we just keep it
moving that way.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Hey, so you were at Brighton Stratton now the last
time that we went out for a while, and you're
in the real estate game.

Speaker 10 (01:09:57):
Now, I'm in real estate and I also work in
Milwaukee Record. So I do programming for like the after
school programming for like basketball classes, yoga, whatever you want
to take. Milwaukee Wreck has something for you to take,
right uh. And so we always have that green guy
that comes around different seasons. So if you're looking for
cooking classes, we have those two.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Yeah, and and in summer, you guys are four seasons.

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
All four seasons, we got to go in.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
So my favorite. When my son was little and we
were living in Milwaukee, we just we moved to Milwaukee
two years ago. Before that, we were on eighty eighth
in Townsend forever. We got that green thing and I
looked there was a third grade basketball camp or something
at Milwaukee Marshall. So I waited instead of like filling
it out and send it, and then I waited till
the sign up day and I went there and they said, sorry,

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it's already filled. And I go, it's the first day
to sign up. They said, we can only take twenty
and I thought I already told my son I got
him in. So we just went and they were so kind.
Good people shouldn't do what I did, but they were
so kind. They were like, I know you've been back then.
They did know I slipped somebody. I said, hey, I'll

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buy you a lunch if you just don't say anything,
and that worked. Hey, how it's funny. I talked to
Mark Miller yesterday. He's gonna be a ship with you
as well. Mar and I said, hey, Craig Harden is
going to be on and and uh, I said, look,
I've known Craig a long time and I can tell
you this that he's going to be ash prepared as
anybody on that show. And I see all the all
your notes in the packet that you brought. This is

(01:11:24):
kind of fun for you. I'm sure when did they
ask you to be on the show.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
This is definitely this is more of This is definitely
up my wheelhouse.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
I got a call.

Speaker 10 (01:11:32):
If you don't believe this, I was on my honeymoon
till in January. Me and my wife went on our honeymoon. Uh,
and I got a call from one of my good
college friends, var LeVar Ridgewood, which way, he's the WI
assistant director. And he asked me, Hey, you have any
interest of kind of getting back into the game and
covering some sports. I was like, well, I never stopped
just because I don't do a mainstream and these do

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Preps Plus and some other shows. If it's in you,
like you know, coach, it never, it never leaves you.

Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
Never.

Speaker 10 (01:11:58):
It doesn't leave analyzing my kids practices. Of course, of
course you getting ready for after the game. So how
do you feel like you played? I'm asking these type
of questions just to get these my kids and kids
that I kind of work with some public speaking.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
Hey, LeVar does a really good job, does a great job.
He does, He really does. And and look there are
times that you know, I get a little bit snarly
when it comes to the w i A and some
of the stuff I hear nothing but really good things.
I've talked to him a couple of times and let
him know that his reputation is really good out here.

Speaker 10 (01:12:30):
Yeah, I think the WA needed some some different some
different blood in there. I think job a couple of
years ago out like you said, he's been doing a
fantastic job. The representation of southeast Wisconsin needed to be
kind of represented in the w i A. And I
think he does a great job of doing that and
being trans uh, just kind of keeping everything on the
table of what's going on in the southeast and sometimes

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the Southeast kind of get left out when a lot
of decisions.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Well, and do you know what I hear most about
him is he's not afraid to question. Yes, there was
a time there that nobody in our market was questioned
in any They were like, well that's what they said,
that's w a rule. He'll ask questions and say hold
on a second, you know what. And he's younger than
some of the people on that staff, and and look

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he's he is a Milwaukee guy. And I like the
fact that he's on there. Rocky. Aw you Ben, it's
good to see you.

Speaker 8 (01:13:21):
Well, you know, I can't believe it's been a year.
Telling you we did basketball last year, I mean, my gosh,
And great to meet you. Great, it's gonna be awesome.
We are so excited about being able to actually broadcast
the show tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Kind of quock and you gonna do it live and
and uh, you know with last week there was we
had a little tape delay and that's okay, yep. But
the fact that you said, no, no, this is the boys.
One needs to be at ten o'clock and and I missed.
We talked with the two coaches that were in studio
of the first hour. As a coach, I liked the

(01:13:56):
city meetings. I liked the controversy. I've been may make
a little popcorn. Watch those two guys argue. Then I
gotta argue.

Speaker 8 (01:14:02):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
I'm not sure I'm completely sold on the computer doing
the picks, because guys like me, can can cherry pick
how did they get the five instead of the four?
That kind of stuff. How much prep were Craig, have
you done for this show? I bet a lot right
to talk about how how do you think Turtle Lake's
going to do in division?

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Right? Who knows the.

Speaker 4 (01:14:23):
Great thing about technology?

Speaker 5 (01:14:25):
Right now?

Speaker 10 (01:14:25):
Even though I can't make those games, I can stream
them and watch a lot of these games. So this
is this whole bracket show is amazing. Last time I
was covering preps maybe a couple years ago, this was
not a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
So correct.

Speaker 4 (01:14:38):
We're losing some of the great things that we.

Speaker 10 (01:14:40):
Grew up on that the preps plus those shows that
kind of cover high school sports from August all the
way into maybe April baseball season.

Speaker 4 (01:14:48):
We don't have those staples anymore. And so I missed
that show that's just that.

Speaker 10 (01:14:52):
And then you had Time Warner Cable back back in
the days that was covering a lot of high school sports,
and so we miss having high school sports being read
been tasting on the TV screen or online.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Hey, during the break, there's some inside information. The boy
that's sitting between us might be able to talk to
you a little bit about we're not ready to go
with it live yet, but make sure during the break
that rock you'll kind of give you a heads up
on some of the things channel to My twenty four
is doing. And when when Rocky got to the market,
you've been here a year almost going on two almost

(01:15:23):
two years. He's trying to shorter than I am. Man,
I hope people must think you'd make it too. Started
what he realized, and when he first got here, we
were doing Friday night rivals. He got here and I
watched him. I didn't even know who he had so
much there's a new gym, but he would come to
every game and just kind of walk around and look

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in the crowd and watch what we're doing. And I thought, well,
he's going to realize I have no idea what I'm doing.
He's gonna get you fire me before the end of
the year. But what he did was he shook hands
and kissed babies and he and he said, we have
to do this. We got to do it better, we
got to do more of it. And then he went
after all the state tournament games. And so My twenty
four has become kind of the place to go because again,

(01:16:08):
Spectrum a lot of people aren't doing any of this stuff,
the stuff that you did, the stuff that I continue
to do. And he completely bought in to what this
community needed and said this is who this is what
we're going to be known for. And I thank him
for that.

Speaker 8 (01:16:22):
Oh and you know, we've talked about it before, and
I mean, I'm high school sports it's really you know,
the untouched part of you know, even college, you know,
professional it's all getting a lot of corporate. It's you know,
it's hard to even know if the guy that you
root for on the team in college is going to
be there next year.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
Yeah, you know, because l and everything.

Speaker 8 (01:16:43):
And here in Wisconsin there's no nil for high school
sports right now, which is great, but it's one thing there.
But he can can you know, have some kind of
knowledge of we all went to high school. We either
played sports at some level. We or we have somebody
that played sports or friends or whatever. So to me,
it's it's kind of where broadcast has got to go.

(01:17:06):
And we're finding that sports is coming back to broadcast.
You know, on our CW side, we're getting a lot
of the network sports, whether it's college football or basketball
or NASCAR, things that were streaming before, but they can't
get the reach and here. What we always love is
that anybody who understands as long as you have a
television set or a television screen, direct TV, cable doesn't matter.

(01:17:28):
Channel twenty four is all you got to find, right
and there it is well and I no buffery either.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Which is kind of nice to you know, Craig. What
Rocky figured out and understood and believed early on when
he got here was that there's going to be people
like you and I and then parents, aunts, uncles, alumni,
people that truly love the high school game. I used
to get made fun of all the time because I
haven't necessarity off and how long. And people would be like,

(01:17:55):
why do you do that? And It's like, I think
that it's still the pure colleges and is purre anymore?
In fact, you played at a high level. High school
basketball is still your favorite memory, is still favorite time
to play.

Speaker 10 (01:18:09):
That's absolutely high school basketball, and in particularly the state tournament,
because when I think about it now, when you're in
the moment and these athletes are playing to competing to
go to the state even when you win it, it's
a big moment. But to me, it's even bigger twenty
years later, now thirty years for me, I think we
won it events in nineteen ninety six. It was our
first state championship, and then like the Jose Winston's thirty

(01:18:29):
years later, guys like that are in my wedding. I
just got married in jose Winston now was assistant coach
at UWM. It was in my wedding because of the
memories we had we beform during the high school.

Speaker 4 (01:18:39):
You don't remember the games as much.

Speaker 10 (01:18:41):
You remember that that state championship, and then thirty years
later we're still talking about hey, memories that we created
so such a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Man, I appreciate you saying that because I was lucky
enough as a coach to win a number.

Speaker 4 (01:18:52):
Of Yes, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
I can't tell you much about the state championship game,
but I can tell you abo the city. You know,
the sectionals semi as a coach, and then getting up
to Madison or getting in the Christian schools to Merinatha
or to Northland. You know those times. And and these
kids that I coached in AAU, they don't talk about
winning tournaments. They talk about being in a hotel to

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somebody in the pool, all of that fun stuff and
you're right standing up in each other's weddings from fourth
grade au stuff, and there's just so much and and
the fact that the Rocky who comes to the market
stands on the sidelines for for eight or nine football
games and goes, hold on a second, we're missing We

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need to be more involved in this rather than less involved.
And how can we do that? Well, now, on my
twenty four you can watch the hockey State Championships that's
gonna be on the eighth March eighth.

Speaker 8 (01:19:47):
Wrestling Wrestlings next week, the first at five o'clock till
nine o'clock.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
Boys and girls. I get a little dizzy because we
got three three match going at the same time. But
I'm watching it, but it's from it was like, okay,
which one am I supposed to be watching? But think
you know what the amount of people that come up
to me and I'm the sideline reporter, but thank me
for the station I do some business with, for carrying it.

(01:20:13):
It's it's pretty incredible, to be honest with you, because
they don't have to stream it, they don't have to
figure out maybe if I go out to this bar
maybe they'll have it on.

Speaker 8 (01:20:21):
Oh and you know, I guarantee you there's bars that
will have it on. You know, that's another percent, you know,
because they'll go you know, especially this time of the year.
You know, football is done, there is some basketball. You know,
we got Wisconsin and we had Marquette, and that's great.
We all want to watch that stuff. That tournament's coming up.
But this kind of warms you up. I mean, there's
nothing better than you know, championship, semi finals and finals

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games because it just amps everything up.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
And you know, I have a woman in my condo
complex right that when I moved in, she all of
a sudden, she was like, what are you doing here?
And I go, excuse me? She goes, you're Mike McGivern
to the sideline. I go, you watched the high school
footb game. We She goes, oh, I never miss one.
Her husband goes, she won't even go out and have
a fish fry with me if it's past six o'clock

(01:21:06):
on a Friday, And I go can, I ask why?
And she goes, I was a cheerleader in high school.
My nephews play. I got so ingrained in watching high
school football that when I found Channel twenty four. Used
to it on Thursday. She goes, by the way, you're
kind of better on the silence, and it used to
be I go, well, I was so bad in the beginning.
I had no idea what I was doing.

Speaker 4 (01:21:27):
Good good repetition and anything you get better and better.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
Except for halftime. My wife won't watch. She goes, there's
too much of you, pal you gotta you know what,
And I go, hey, I've got to interview all the
other people. But the fact that she watches every week
and has no dog in any fight, just likes to watch,
just likes to watch. Friday night. Guys, we're going to
get to a break out other side of the break Craig,
I want to talk to you a little bit about
what this is going to be like. This is the

(01:21:51):
first time you've done this, and I love the fact
that you're part of this. I know Mark Miller's excited
about He goes, man Tew, Craig, it go. It's fast.
You got to be ready to go. You got to
jump in into to add some stuff. But knowing you,
I bet you've watched a thousand games. By the way,
did you know that Freddy owns stuff down to day.

Speaker 10 (01:22:09):
I just heard on my way here, I saw some
some texts and tweets that he do we have any
idea why, idea what happened? He had a comment about
something that they had to stand up for yourself or something.
So after after I that's'm probably gonna do some investigation myself,
just to kind of get up.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Yeah, head coach at Kimberly and you're.

Speaker 10 (01:22:27):
Two from or you're you're you're one, it's very early
in his coach might it's wondered might one year one
year one?

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
And my hope is it's not the Booster Club, it's
not parents. I just hope. I look, Freddie Owns, it's.

Speaker 10 (01:22:45):
A big time name, and it's Wisconsin to form what
he's done his days at Madison, his day at Milwaukee,
Washington getting up the state.

Speaker 4 (01:22:52):
So hey boy, could he play play?

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
And you want to tell about a guy that you
would want in front of your team to talk about folksperson.

Speaker 10 (01:23:00):
For the team, great schools, folks, school basketball, college basketball,
all that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
So yeah, so if you find out, let me know.
I'm hoping that it wasn't you know, anything like the
reason the guy from Wannakee got run out right a
really good basketball coach. I'm hoping that's not the case.
But breaking news Freddie Owns the head coach at Kimberly
stepped down effective immediately, like right now, he is gone.
So I don't know who's taken over for Kimberly, but

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pretty good basketball program. I can tell you that. Let's
get to a break. He is Craig Harden. You can
watch him ten o'clock tomorrow on My twenty four for
the high school Basketball the boys high school Basketball selection show.
And he's going to be a great ambassador for our market.
And he uh, as long as I've known him, he's
going to be fully prepared for this and and him

(01:23:49):
and Mark Miller do a great job. Also joined by
Rocky Waganhurst, VP, General Manager, Sinclair Broadcast Group. Get your breakout,
continue our conversation with these guys. This is the Varsity
Blitz High School Sports Show, presented by your local Pick
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twenty and your iHeart Radio app. Welcome back to the

(01:24:09):
Varsity Blitz High School Sports Show, as always presented by
your local Pick and Save in Metro Market stores. I'm
Mike mcgiffern, alongside Craig Harden. It's gonna be on Tomorrow's
Voice Basketball Selection show ten o'clock on My twenty four,
ten am on My twenty four. If you're gonna be
at church, record.

Speaker 8 (01:24:27):
It, or you can always go to church Earley go
to church early. Yeah, they usually have a seven thirty mass,
so you know that's for the old folks like me. Yeah,
some go that's late.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
Outside bathsis Berkside baths starts at nine, So I might
have to record this one. But Craig's going to be
on that show with Mark Miller and a couple other guys.
It's gonna be fast, can be gonna go. You got
a long ride to wash out of Morrow, moning I do.

Speaker 10 (01:24:50):
I guess the early morning, a cup of Joe and
then we'll head up there and kind of talk about basketball.

Speaker 4 (01:24:55):
And so I'm excited.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
Not a bad day, not a bad Sunday at all.

Speaker 4 (01:24:59):
It's got to be warmer too outside, So get out
there and we'll see what.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
Yeah, Hey, let's talk a little Division one if we can.

Speaker 6 (01:25:05):
Yet.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
You look, Wisconsin Lutheran is in one. Uh ketl Moraine,
who's right now, right two in the coaches pull and
is in a different bracket, appears in a different bracket.
So I kind of like that one thing that I
would ask, if you know, tell LeVar that we don't
need the teams in August. Can we can we wait
until January to put out to put out the brackets,

(01:25:28):
because on the girls side, there's you know, four or
five teams that are in the top ten, are all
in the same regional, and it's like, guys, we don't
need to do that. And I wish that, and I
promised you will, there would be no Hey.

Speaker 10 (01:25:41):
You can talk about all you want just because I don't.
I'm not in those meetings. I don't unders I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:25:45):
Talk to them just as much as you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
Yeah, I wish that they would say, well, why do
we do this? We don't need to do this. And
then they'll say, well for geography, well you've taken Brooks
Central and moved them way up, so it's not about geography.
So let's we we don't have to have four or
five teams they're in the top ten, all in the
same regional. We can move them. And I hope that
one day they consider that your your thought in Division one,

(01:26:09):
if you had to kind of pick the top three
or four teams. Where would you go with them?

Speaker 10 (01:26:14):
I've started with them and Kata Moraine First, it's because
they haven't lost the game all year. Right, you play
that type of schedule, and they've been blowing teams out.
There's missed some double digit wins for katam Rain. I
got to see them play at the Fire as a
form and they came down here a couple weeks ago.
Just a total team, right.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
Rickerts got them playing some defense for sure, and they
can shoot the ball best. Your kids are firing it
and they can score. You're right, they have not been
beat yet. And when you look at their bracket, you know,
you look at some schools like I don't know mcguanago
I saw the other night there they're pretty good. Wanna
Key is really good. And so to get out of

(01:26:50):
that regional and sectional, it's not going to be an
easy one. If I had to choose, that might be
the one that I go in. You know, I looking
at at the strength of it. If I'm Kevin morayin,
I'm feeling pretty good about where we're at right now.

Speaker 10 (01:27:05):
Yeah, and then you got when you have still guys,
just to me, when you have this time of year,
you need star players. They got a couple of star
players in Roman Thompson got kids averaging twenty points. So
this time of the year, just by covering this tournament
for the last ten fifteen years and actually playing it,
you got to have a star player. But you also
got to have that heady guard. Doesn't have to be
a senior guard, but you get if that freshman or
sophomore guard plays like a senior that knows how to

(01:27:28):
control the game. It's just like college basketball. You need
good guard play in tournament time. Guards that can go
on the road in these hostile environments. That's high school basketball,
and they have to be able to know when that
mister Thompson needs to get the rock or when someone
else needs to slow it down. So to me, no
matter what team you are, no matter if your ranked
one through ten, those two ingredients star players, and you

(01:27:48):
got to have a good guard play no matter what
age or you're a senior or a freshman. You have
to play heady because you got to be extension of
a coach, just like you know being a coach. Have
good point guards at Dominican, at Martin Lutheran.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
Ray Kwon Carrington yeah, j R. Blown and Brandon Brown, Yeah,
and Matthew Johnson. We had really good point guards, You're right,
and then we and they kind of knew where the
ball needed to go if we needed a bucket. I
saw Wisconsin Lutheran on Tuesday play Pewaukee and coach Walls,
when you go from being the team that's hunting, right,

(01:28:21):
they were hunting Pewaukee for years and then they got
up over the top and beat them, and now they
you know, they've got two losses, the only one in
the area against West Allis Central and they're West Allis
Central is in their sectional. And I can tell you
that a few of those guys came up to me
and I won't name them, but they said, we wouldn't
mind another shot at those guys. And so there's that

(01:28:43):
rivalry there Wisconsin Coach Wallas, they're now the hunted and
everybody's given their best shot, and I'm always interested to
see how they respond to being that. And they've done
just fine.

Speaker 10 (01:28:54):
And we look at Wisconsin Lutin. Do you think about
you lose con to Duke, right, you lose a potential
a lot to repick. This team comes back and pretty
much was pretty number one all season long with they
got a good mix of young players, they got a
good mix of some older players. But like you said,
they're hunted, but they're used to this since last year.

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
You've got a lot of these players.

Speaker 10 (01:29:12):
You can't experience it something that you can't coach, right,
you have. If these players experienced this last year, they
know that they're going to be hunted. They understand what
the assignment is and so therefore if they can get
they can lock in and coaching at this time is
imperative that this is why the coaches make those big
bucks making those adjustments in game and the gaming game.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
Hey, would you do me a favorite because starting next
week we'll start talking playoffs. Can I get you to
come back?

Speaker 4 (01:29:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
Can I get you to come back? And let's look,
we didn't have nearly enough time to go through all this,
and I apologize to you and Rocky for that. Really quickly.
When you go to Division III, have you've seen Milwaukee
Academy of Signs play, Yes, I.

Speaker 10 (01:29:51):
Have, actually this interviewed those guys last week Milwaukee Academy signed.

Speaker 1 (01:29:55):
Well did a guy be Key return your call?

Speaker 10 (01:29:58):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
No, I can't come on, man, I got.

Speaker 10 (01:30:02):
I went, I went through the head coach, the girls,
head coach, YO college friend of mine.

Speaker 4 (01:30:08):
He got me in the door.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
He's been very kind to me, but got ba key.
I finally show on the silent said do you ever
get to return my college? Should you called me? I said,
I have sent you three texts. I don't think. So
looked at his phony, goes, oh yeah, sorry, I go.
I just want to have you and your son come out.
We coached against each other. It'll be fun. So reached
out two more times, nothing and he's, you know what.

(01:30:31):
On the he's on the quiet side. He's a really
good coach. They got they got a really good chance
I think to win Division.

Speaker 10 (01:30:37):
I think I'm talking to them. I talked to those
guys last week, talking to them. They feel like this
is their best chance. So you think about the last
six six years, how much Division one, how many Division
one players have come from that small school on the
north side, on the city east side of Milwaukee. Is amazing.
But coach said, this is when you lab by bait Bateman.
Seniors going to Iowa, say, the shooting guard, he is

(01:30:59):
a pros pro on and off the floor.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
So j R. Blount the assistant coach at Iowa State
three years ago was textman coach met Dominican coaching man,
help me with this kid. This is our number one.
This is who we want that do you want to
tell my kid that can score and play defense.

Speaker 10 (01:31:15):
All three levels? But this his mindset, just talking to
the kid and the way he goes about business. He
has an older brother that played overseas. It was really good.
So you can tell when you had that type of leadership.

Speaker 1 (01:31:25):
Yeah, hey, guys, said Rocky, thank you, thank you for
all you do for my twenty four. We'll get you
back in. Don't worry about me. Just here in the
conversation ten o'clock tomorrow live on My twenty four. You
get the selection show. You see Craig Harden. Look, I
don't know everybody's gonna be there, but he'll be the
best flipping guy on that best show. And look, there's

(01:31:45):
a reason he's on TV. Yeah, there is a reason
that I know. I have a face for eighty. I
put you on yesterday, but you hate you. I pay
you to get on TV. He is Craig Harden, Rocky
Waganhurstky's thank you very much, special, well done. This is
a fast moving show today. The two hours went really quick.
Don't forget ten o'clock tomorrow on MY twenty four and

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then you can watch hockey State championships, wrestling, girls basketball,
boys basketball, all for the TV station that believes in
high school athletics, which is MY twenty four. Guys, have
a good weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:32:20):
Thank oh you too.

Speaker 9 (01:32:21):
Thank you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:32:22):
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