Full Show - 7/6/2024

Full show from the Donovan & Jorgenson Heating & Cooling Studio: Saturday, July 6th, 2024

Episode Transcript

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fine. I know about as muchabout trap shooting as I do about HVAC
system. So I go to DonovanJorgensen because they're the best. And I
figured, well, if I'm goingto talk about trap shooting, I might

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as well go to a team thatwon back to backstate championships. And Brad
Patterson is in studio with me.He's the head coach of the Red Knights.
Correct, Hey, Lauren, muchgood. How are you got to
thank Cole Brown for this man introduction? And Wayne Jensen started this whole thing
because he was in last week andsaid I wanted to talk trapshooting. He

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said, well, do you knowabout us, and I go, no,
he goes back to back state champions. You get a hold of Cold
Brown, He'll get you a holdof Brad. And yeah, Brad can
talk all day about trap shooting.So thank you so much because you're talking
to a guy that doesn't know anythingabout it. Yeah. No, they're
great supporters of our program, bothof them as the principal of our school
and the CEO of our association,and they're just they're phenomenal supporters and great

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guys. I learned a lot theother day when I came out I think
Monday, to watch you guys practice. And first of all, I live
a mile from the Walkshot Gun Cluband I've driven by it but never.
First of all, I can't believehow big it is. It's about a
quarter of a mile in length overall, and it's got four different disciplines,

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trap, ski, sporting. Klayis in five stands, so we can
throw any Klay target game as outthere. Yeah, you to talk Spanish
to me with what she just said. You know, I learned a lot
by watching these kids, and asa former basketball coach, what I look
for when I go to a practicefor a sport that I don't know anything
about. Is I want to seeif this team is together right, if

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they like each other, if they'rehanging out a little bit, if they're
making jokes. Are they And Igot there and I was there a minute
or two before you were, andI walked up and I said, is
your coach ron? And they werelike, yeah, I think he's pulling
up. And then I sat andlistened to these kids and they were all
like, Hey, how did youdo here? What are you doing?
Where are you going? And theywere all kind of talking and interacting,

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and I got a really good feelfor this group of kids that love this
whole sport of trap shooting. Andthen I went on and I watched them
and a couple of the kids i'dpull aside and talk to, and I
begged one to come in studio.And she's here, and I'm looking forward
to yeah, because she's got agreat story. By the way, I

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was telling the story to my producerAndrew about her winning Worlds and how she
had waited day to know if shewont or not, I would be in
the fetal position, and we'll talkto her about that. How long you've
been involved with this coach. Thisis our twelfth year as a team.
So we started it. It usedto be the Wisconsin State Trap shoot Championships
were held out with the Waukeshagun Cluband when they moved up to Wisconsin Rapids

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when they built their facility, westarted the trap team and it started out
in Milwaukee Lutheran and then from therewe added Lake Country Lutheran and then ultimately
Martin luther So now it's a coop between the three high schools. But
the big part of our team thatwe do is it's about the team,
so we don't focus on the schoolthe three schools. It's about the team

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and then more important, it's aboutour family. The Trap team family that
you were talking about earlier is trapshooting individual sporters and team sport. It's
truly an individual sport that is donein a team sport setting, so kind
of like wrestling. Correct correct,Okay, you know what. It's part
of the school Acikit Tier program,which is the equivalent of our wi AA,

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and their philosophy is its team baseand it's about not necessarily the win,
it's about making better young adults.And that's a philosophy that we take
into our program as well. AndI've told this and and it's kind of
it was a joke, but Ikind of am serious. I was at
the Walkshot Gun Club where there wereI don't know how many people, let's

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say one hundred total, all withguns, and every in the first five
minutes, you know, I'm duckingright, I'm hearing the gunshot. I'm
ducking from an old neighborhood that Iused to live in, and there was
so much Everybody was extremely careful andthey have so much respect for what they

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with this gun that they have.And it was really interesting to me to
work watch how discipline each one ofthese kids and the adults because there were
adults over there shooting too. Thatpeople understand the power that they have with
this gun that they have in theirhand. Yeah, you have to be
respectful of it. And safety isa huge part of what we do.

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It's a very huge part. It'sthe first thing when we start our season
that we talk about and a veryhigh priorities put on that in the beginning.
And then you know, you cankind of watch as you go and
the kids start to become more andmore respectful of the firearms and they understand
what that firearm can do, andsame with the members. And anytime that
you see something that isn't quite right, it's addressed immediately. Whether it's an

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athlete on a team or it's somebody'sjust shooting out at the gun club,
we address it instantly because nobody wantsan instant and if you use them properly,
they're great things to have fun with. Hey, how did you get
involved in this? Did you startat? Did you are you a hunter?
Did you hunt deer? Hunted earlierin my life? Can I tell
you my dear hunting story? Iwent once. I went once with my

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friend Brian and his dad and hisbrother, and we were in Hayward,
Wisconsin. And after the first dayI pretended I lied I had the fluid,
I'm not feeling well, so Icould stay back and watch the Packer
game because I was really cold,and I had no My father grew up
on a farm in Wassaw and theyhad a hunting accident when he was a

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kid, so there were no gunsever allowed in our home, so I
had no idea about them. Ijust when I said, hey, I'm
going hunting with Brian, and Ihad moved out. I was like,
I don't know, eighteen years old, and he was like no, and
I said, well, you don'treally have a say in this anymore.
You know, I'm not even livingin your house. And he said,
please don't and I said, well, I'm just going to go up and

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try it. And I watched andthey taught me some very valuable lessons on
safety, and I didn't see anythingthe eight hours. I stood out there
and froze, and I'm not sureI fell in love with any of that,
but so you hunted, and that'stime I hunted first. And then

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one time when I was I wasprobably about twenty eight or twenty nine when
I got into target shooting for Klaytargets and I was I was at my
parents' house. I stopped by mydad. I was going to the range
to shoot his league and I'm like, what are you doing? He told
me. I'm like, that soundskind of fun. And I was rifle
shooting at that time, and youknow, I went out. I did

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it for the first time. Ishot a four. My very first dround
was at twenty five and kind ofmarvels what these guys have done in the
past too well, they're all pointingin our world champion put up two fingers,
so you beat her that time,right, And so you know,
I did it four and that's whereit started, and then I did some
events, and you know, it'sjust the picnic atmosphere of it. I

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was like, this is great,and then I just got hooked. It's
very it's reactive because when you shootthe target, the target breaks in front
of you, and it actually willmimic kind of like if you were thinking,
like a firework going off in frontof you, and that's what you
see. So it's a reactive thing. And there's an instant gratification if you
break the target. There's an instantoh fudge if you miss the target,

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and then you just have to regroupand shoot the next one. And on
one of the questions I had forBrianna, who's going to be joining us
to the next segment, how muchof this is mental and how much is
physical? And she says it's it'sthere's a lot of mental involved in this
as far as keeping. If youmiss one or two or three in a

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row, you know, you've gotto forget about it because you've you've got
to get back on the hoard.Let's go. We got to get moving.
And when she won World, shehad missed four something four or five
in a row and she had tokind of regroup her mind and get back
six in a row and get backinto being, you know, as good
as she can be. And shesaid, look, there's a lot of

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mental part of this and staying withit. Yeah. No, you have
to think your way through the game. But at the same time, you
can't think. You have to havea very short memory. You have to
let things go as soon as youmiss, because you can, let's say,
in trap. So in trap,it's a game of perfection. Trap
singles is a game of perfection.And this winning score is going to be
one hundred of one hundred, andminimums gonna be ninety nine out of one

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hundred. So what happens is ifyou miss a target and then maybe a
second target, you might not placefor an individual trophy, but your team
can still place because a team scoreis a combination of the top five athlete
scores that shut that day. Soyou can still help your team by shooting

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let's say at ninety seven or ninetysix, whereas maybe you won't win an
individual medal, but you'll win ateam medal, and that's where the priority
is first and foremost is on theteam trophy. Hey, what so you
guys won state? Correct? Correct? We want state sporting co is Okay,
explain that when you talked about thewalk shot Gun Club, you said

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there's four disciplines. There's trap.Trap is basically a game where there's a
house in front of you, youstand at a minimum sixteen yards behind it,
and from there at tier comes outof a little greenhouse think of a
hotch, maybe a manger garage withan open door facing forward, and that
tier comes out and it will gowithin a random angle of forty four degrees.

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So years ago, there used tobe somebody in that There used to
be somebody in that hut. Yep, that was you. That was me.
My first job at thirteen, Well, I had a paper rout.
But then the guy did who ranthe gun club down in the Lake hired
Milwaukee gun Club. Yeah, theMilwaukee Gun Club. And the first day
that I worked in there, Iwas in that and it was just people

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practicing. So this was the pacepull pull and I was able to put
that little clay pigeon on that armthat, and the next day I had
to go and work a tournament andthis was the pace pull pull pull.
In the middle of the tournament,I waved the white flag as a thirteen

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year old jumped out and ran homeand I quit. I guess I never
got the first yeah, and Icouldn't keep up with the pace, and
so I got out of there.By the time I got home, the
guy called my dad and said,your son just ran. He just left.
And I was hoping they wouldn't.Nobody would take a shot at me
when I was running, but Iunderstood the difference between people just practicing.

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And then tournament pace is a wholedifferent a much different, faster game.
And then you have skate, thesecond discipline. That's two towers, a
high one and a low one,and you work around those towers in a
semi circle and it's a game ofangles and rotation because you always the target
fight stays the same in a crossingpattern between the high target and the low

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target. And then you have sportingclays, which is the discipline that we
went back to back on our statechampionships. That's equated to golf with a
shotgun. You have anywhere from twelveto sixteen stations generally, and each station
has a different target presentation for apair of targets, two different targets.
That's what I watch. That waswhat you watched the other night as we

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were preparing for the National Championships nextweek. And there you go to different
all these different stations and you'll shootdifferent targets that you can be coming at
you. They can be coming fromthe side, they can be coming from
behind you. You can have rabbitson the ground, which is a target
that can run along the grounds,built thicker on the rims so that it
can take the bouncing, so theycan come from anywhere in that game.

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And so that was the game wewere practicing, the game that you were
watching. And then five stand isa variant of sporting plays. It's set
up on a trap field basically atfive stations. You just move between the
short five stations and there's eight differentmachines out in front of you. If
you have somebody who's never done thisbefore, right, and let's say a
freshman in high school, where doyou start them? How do you do?

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Did you start them in one discipline? Yeah? The best discipline to
start is in trap because it's theeasiest to learn. It's the most basic
of all the disciplines. You knowwhere the target is going to be.
Depending on the station, You're onlygoing to get either a straightaway or an
angle, so you kind of knowthat part. And it's the easiest one
to teach. Sporting clays because ofthe variants of the targets, the whole

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points where you break it, whereyou look for it, that's a much
more challenging one. So usually thatwill start later in the year. So
for instance, like in Aubrey's case, will be with you next. She's
in her first year. We didn'tstart her in sporting clays until probably midway
through the season. Got her goingwith the trap game, got the gun
mount, how you stand, howyou hold it, how you look over

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the barrel, and everything. Oncewe got her to understand that, then
we could put her onto the otherdisciplines where she learns how to do that.
So next segment we're going to bejoined by June and Aubrey and Brianna.
We have three females here and thennext hour, I've got a girl
that shoots for mcguanago coming in.I've known her since she was in fifth

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grade. Maybe I worked with hermom. And it's interesting because the kids
that I talked to there and youtalked about your dad getting involved. This
is a real thing. This isvery family a family sport. It seems
like grandfathers or fathers or siblings peoplethat have have kind of passed this sport

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down to these young people. Yeah, the family is very important, especially
in our team. It's you know, like when you have a high school
practice, parents don't come to thepractice. You know, they pay the
game to the game, right,you know, in our sport, they're
actually they're helping us. They're onthe line scoring, they're they're pulling the
targets for the kids. And thenyou know the parents, maybe they had

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never shot before, their kid getsinvolved in it and then they start shooting
when I was leaving, So itbecomes a family affair and a family's that
the family can do together. WhenI was leaving the practice, I was
walking out and there was a momthat was walking and she was there when
you introduced me to the team,and the mom said, how did it

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go? And I said really interesting. I think I learned a lot.
And she said, you know,this is a really, really good group
of kids, and thank you forhighlighting this sport and this team because they're
better kids. They're a really goodteam, but as a group, they're
really good kids. And I said, you're happy that your kids involved in
this, and she goes, Icouldn't be happier. And it was really

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cool for me to see a parentwho she would have stood and talked to
me for ten minutes had I nothad to go about not about just her
kid. And she never wanted tosay, hey, that's my kid and
this I don't even know whose momit was, but she had so much
passion for this sport and this team. It was really a great way for

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me to finish the time that hadwith you in this team, because you
know, parents get it's hard sometimes, you know, parents are my son
is going to the NBA. Yougot to play him more. He's five
six, he's not going to theNBA. What are you talking about?
Parents in your sport? At leastthe one that I met or the couple
that I met, very supportive ofwhat you're doing. Yeah, they're our

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parents are very supportive. They're greatambassadors for our team. They're very extremely
helpful. We couldn't do our practiceswithout them. But then at the same
time they buy into our philosophy,which is you know, you give the
effort, you represent your your Inour case, it's our team themselves.
And then obviously I learned Savior JesusChrist as a Christian team, and then

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have fun, we have a talkscore. I I was impressed that you
had one of your your your youryour shooters pray before the practice, and
that for me was was pretty impressive. I like the act that you allowed
them to be able to take thatrole, and I think that that's really

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important. Obviously, how many kidsyou're involved in your program. In our
program, we have nineteen this season, so it varies. Every team has
a different number. Our case,we're a small team. Some teams can
have up to sixty seventy eighty kidson a team. Unbelievable. There was
one young one younger kid there andI think he was probably in middle school.

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He's a sixth grader. Sixth youngestathlete he was. That was Walker.
He's twelve, okay, so hestarted his first year. He was
a sixth grader this year, andthat's the youngest athlete we've ever had first
year. Taking a sixth grader.In the past, it was always at
seventh grade. It's a little bitabout their size, their stature, can
they handle the firearm, and thenyou know, how do they do?

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So we checked that out before wegive the green light, so to speak,
and them joining. But he didgreat. He did phenomena all year
long. So I'm gonna live onthe radio. I'm going to tell this
story and I told it to you, but I haven't haven't said it live,
but people at Watch around the Cornerwith John McGivern. We did a
I would do sports for a minuteall over the state of Wisconsin and whatever

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community we're going to be involved in. And it was during the summer.
We're in Oshkosh and they had areally good co op trap shooting team and
so I did it on that teamand they wanted the last part of that
segment for me to put on thegear, grab a gun and shoot and
I tried. I tried five sixtimes, and they kept saying, you

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have to trace it, and Ifinally said, what does that mean.
I don't know what you mean bythis, and so they tried to teach
me and finally I was like,I can't hit it. And so there
was a little guy about ten elevenyears old standing there watching, kind of
giggling at me because I couldn't doit, And I said, can you
do this? He goes yes.I said can you hit one? He

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goes yep. I go get yourstuff ready. And so if you watch
that segment and it still airs,it looks like I hit it because they
went pulling. It looked like Ihit it. It was this ten year
old kid standing next to me whowas probably you know, weighed about sixty
pounds all together, and he hitit and got a big smile and he's
like, you want me to dothat again? I got no big shot.

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That's all I needed from you.And people are like, hey,
you hit that thing. I said, yes I did. I didn't even
come close. If I stayed withit for a while, I hand coordinations
pretty good. I could figure itout, but I could not hit it.
Yeah. The beautiful the beauty ofthe game is anybody can do it.
Anybody in their size, whether they'rea smaller sixth grader all the way

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up to the senior high school athleteor even the adult gender does not matter,
males or females. In fact,the best shooter in our program's history
was a female. The most decoratedathlete was a female on our team.
So anybody can do it. It'sjust a matter of learning the technique and
learning the fundamentals, and once youperfect that, it's just a matter of

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then having gun timing and improving agame better. Hey, the twins that
I met, they're going on tonot only are they going to the same
college, but they're going to roomtogether. They're going on and they're gonna
shoot in college. Correct' shooting collegeat Emmanuel University. Brianna's brother is going
to go on and shoot at WilliamPenn in Iowa. So there are scholarship

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opportunities that kids can do. Andthe program that we're part of, the
Scholassically Tuget program, is also thefeeder program for the USA Olympic program,
and we've had athletes from this areathe last Olympics. I think it was
Madelein Burnou of the Waterford area.She went represented the US in the Olympics

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in a mixed doubles trap. Youknow, it's funny when I asked the
group, but you guys all rootfor each other. They all said,
yeah, but sometimes not for him. One of the twins. I don't
know which one, and he laughedand he said, look, I yeah
they I rip on them too,So it's okay. I can handle it.
And I had fun with those guys. Coach, I really appreciate your
willingness to come in studio and bringthese three shooters and athletes with you.

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We're gonna talk to June and Aubreyand Branna on the other side of the
break, and then the third segment, Brad, we're gonna bring you back
as well. He is Brad Patterson. He's the head coach for the Red
Knights. It's a co op betweenGreeneal Martin, Luther Martin, Luther,
Lake Country, Lutheran, and we'retalking trapshooting for most of the show today.
It's a sport that I tried once, couldn't do it, and I

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don't understand the love affair. Butwe're gonna find out from June and Aubrey
and Branna how they fell in lovewith this sport. This is the Varsity.
This is the Varsity Blitz high schoolsports show presented by your local Pick
and Safe Stores. I'm the Bignine twenty in your iHeartRadio app coming live
from the Donovan and Jordanson Heat eatand cooling studios. I always love when

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we have athletes in and during thebreak they're like, I'm gonna embarrass myself.
I'm gonna embarrass my family. I'mgonna embarrass my coach, and if
I don't embarrass him, he's gonnaembarrass me. I love that. You
know, these guys have I watchedthem. I watched them with these big
rifles or whatever they had shotguns orYeah, they're shaking their head and they're

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not nervous doing that. But inhere just talking to me, they're like,
I don't know if I want todo this. We are joined by
three of the shooters, three ofthe athletes for the Red Knights to the
co op team that that one statethis year, and we're going to start
with Brandon Geesi. Yes, who, I'm good? How are you good?
We talked a lot the other day. I appreciate your time. I

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think in the beginning when I kindof called you over to talk to you,
like, oh, I don't wantto talk to this guy. What
does he want to talk to meabout? But I appreciate the patience you
had with me with the questions thathad the story that you. You gave
and you talked about winning world whichwas a couple of weeks ago. Class
C. You're now class you moveup to Class B now right, yes,

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getting getting getting up there, yep. The goal is to get the
class A master to GOLs to thankyou for that. When you told me
that story about having to wait,I think I would be in the fetal
position and I would just continue tolook at scores. So you got done,
and there was another day of shooting, correct, and when you got

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done, you were leading. Youwere number one. I was in what
in high overall Class C, highoverall Class C, so all of them
right, And then you had togo to bed that night knowing that at
that moment you were number one inworlds. But then you had to wait
the whole next day. I did. It was terrible. It was brutal,

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right, it was. And youcouldn't go out there and watch.
I couldn't and boo people and hecklehim and try to get them off their
game. Right, So you hadto sit and did you just keep I
did. Every hour I knew whattime the squads were going out. It
was one in three point thirty.Every time I thought they were done,
I'd go on the app, clickrefreshed score and scroll down and find my

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name to make sure I was stillfirst? Were you still up there at
the time? I was? Anddo you know what's bad is I was
up like four miles from where youguys are shooting. Didn't know. Had
I figured that out a few weeksago, I would have came over and
supported and watched you guys. Whowere you there with my family? So
they, Oh, you must havebeen a peach to be around for that
day. No, no, youweren't. When you finally found out when

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it was over, were you stillup there? I was? And did
you have to then go to getyour And I saw the trophy? It's
beautiful anyway. The fact that youcarry it with you everywhere you go is
amazing. I'm kidding. You showedme a picture of it. That had
to be. What a great feelingthat was. It was, especially because
I had a struggle season this year. Them bringing home that trophy, it

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was a great feeling. When Iasked you about the mental side of it,
you missed six in a row.I did. I missed my first
entire station. How do you comeback from that? I've trained honestly,
and you have to get used tomissing a lot. And the next station

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I went and I ran six outof six, and then the next station
five out of six, six outof six. So you get used to
it when you shoot the sport more. Yeah, good for you. Hey,
Aubrey, thank you for coming in. Aubrey Chandler. How are you?
I'm great? How are you good? How long have you been doing
this? A year? So likeseven months? What made you start?
How did you get involved in trapshooting? So it was at our school

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newsletter and I like to try alittle bit of everything, so I'm like,
I'll give it a shot. It'llbe fun, and then I ended
up really liking it. So yourdad, nobody, nobody in your family
has does this. I mean mydad's done it a couple of times,
but not. Ain'ting crazy? Butdid you fall in love with it right
away? Yeah? Because the people, not the shooting, but the people.

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Are you a multi sport athlete?I also play volleyball. This is
a whole different animal. Volleyball iscompletely a team sport. This is individual
to help team. You like thatpart of it. Definitely a lot of
girls shoot, you know, there'sa lot of boys that were there.

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There are seven girls on our team, so this is the most we've had
on our team. Interesting move themicrophone over my friend June June all being
who said, I'm gonna embarrass myself. I just not sure. I thank
you for being here. I appreciateyou coming in. How long have you
been doing this? This is mysecond year shooting. So and what year
are you in school? I ama senior this year. Okay, so

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your sophomore year is when you started, correct? Had you ever shot a
gun before that? Yeah? Iwas a very avid hunter. We went
hunting all the time. We shottargets in the backyard. It was just
anytime we could get our hands onguns and go out and shoot them,
we would. Really So, youryour dad, your mom, who parents,
family members. I don't do anyshooting with my parents. Neither of

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them can have firearms. So yeah, I kind of wing that by myself.
But they support you for doing Theysupport you doing this. Did you
when you joined as a sophomore?I would think since you had done that
before, it's not like this isthe first time you're doing this. Did
you fall in love with the teamaspect of it at first? Yeah.

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It was more of a like ateam aspect thing, and I was like,
well, this is cool. I'mmaking a bunch of friends because I'll
tell you when I first started,I was not good at all, Like
I really struggled, and it wasit was trying to get in that mental
game and be able to like processgoing from missing something like oh well whatever,
next target? What? What?Which? Which part of and your

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coach had talked about all the differentdisciplines, which one of you most comfortable
learner your best dat I'd say mostcomfortable and trap. But I have the
most fun with like Sporting Claves.Why is that? If I can ask,
it's you get to go out andyou get to stand outside with people
and walk around and just have funwith your team, and if you miss

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targets, nobody's going to lose theirmarbles. It's Sporting Claves. We're we're
out there to have fun. We'renot We're not out there to impress anybody.
Well I mean yeah, but yeah, you want to and you want
to do well for your team.Yeah, one hundred percent. Brianna,
what Brianna what? What? Whichdiscipline do you think you're best at?
Sporting Claves? Absolutely, what whatis the hardest discipline for you? I'd

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also say sporting claves. Sporting Claysis the hardest, but it's the most
fun and it's the one I've beenshooting the longest. Which and do you
practice most with sporting clays? Yes? If if I said to you you
need to go practice in this disciplinea little bit more to get better,
which discipline would that be? Skeetskeet? Yes? Does that bore you?

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I mean it is. It takesa long time to shoot ski about
an hour and a half. Whyis that because there's about six people on
your squad, and there's eight stationsand you have to shoot either two or
four on each station, so itdoes take a while for each shooter to
shoot your pair and then move on. Do you know what other people in

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your group are? So when yousay that are there? If there's six
are there? Is it you representingRed Knights and then people from other teams
or is it all your team there? So for state ski, there's three
from your team and three from anotherteam, and then national skee it's six
people from your team. I wouldhave a hard time not trying to pay
attention to where everybody is at Doyou know is there a score? There's

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not a score o'clock, so youdon't know there's somebody taking score. But
you don't know where everybody is.Do you know where? First of all,
do you know where you are?Yes? You do? But do
you I would? I'm so nosey. I want to know where everybody was,
and I'm very competitive, so I'dwant to know what I need to
do to beat the other five.Do you have to not pay attention?

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I mean, it doesn't affect mepersonally, but sometimes I do watch for
chips. That's the most important thing. You have to watch everyone's birds because
if they mark it as a miss, then you need to step up and
say they hit that. Okay.I don't know what that means. To
chips, it's when you take atiny piece off of the clay pigeon and

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the score can sometimes not see itright, and then that makes the person
lose a point, which can affecttheir score individually and as the team score.
So if somebody from another team,do you do you stand up for
them and say no, no,they hit that. I do you do?
See? I would struggle with that. I'd be like, oh,
well, too bad. So sad, No, I would I would say

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something now I would back then,I probably would not. Hey, Aubrey,
when when you're when I ask youwhat is your best what do you
say? Trapshooting for sure, trapshootingsport? How do you do in sports?
Sporting glaze? I'm decent, butI haven't been shooting it as long,
so I need to put more workin. Obviously, what I watched
you guys practice was sport correct whenI was there. The tough part with

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that is when you're looking ahead,you I couldn't. You have to pick
it up where it's coming, andit comes from different areas in different I
would struggle a little bit. Ithink, well, I struggled with just
the easiest. I you know,I just couldn't hit the skeet. That's
what I did, and couldn't hitit. When if somebody said to you,

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you have to trace it better,would you know what that meant?
It just probably means you're not seeingit as well as you need to be
with your eyes, and you needto be paying more attention and trying to
see it clearly before you shoot it. And after they kept saying like I
would stop here instead of swinging throughinstead of swinging through. That's they said,
that's what tracing is, and thatmade absolutely no sense to me.

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Which which discipline do you dislike themost? I don't necessarily dislike any of
them, but I'm working on gettingto love sporting class. Okay, hey,
if we can move to June.How much do you guys practice June
as a team. Do you guysget together in practice as a team.
We're together every Sunday, okay duringour conference season, so we all have

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practices. We should one hundred onSundays. Sometimes we'll do like dinners and
stuff afterwards, or just hang out, but we'll have special Nationals practices.
On Tuesdays we have sporting class,Wednesday's is skeet, Fridays is handicap and
doubles. And then we're more thanwelcome to come out to the club at
any point in time and come shootwhatever discipline you go. Did you go

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out there on your own? Sometimes? Yeah? You do? Aubreed you
as well? Yeah for sure,granted same thing. Oh yeah, So
as a basketball coach, I wantkids to get shots up on their own,
right, You don't just it's notan hour and a half every day.
I want you to get to they and I want you to get
out to the playground and get someshots up, similar to what you guys

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do. Did you go out andshoot with your brother a lot? Oh?
I shoot with my brother all thetime. My brother sometimes sometimes yeah?
Is he did he? Did heget you involved in this? My
dad did? Yeah? And youwere you were a volleyball player or a
basketball player, softball, softball.I'm sure the volleyball coaches wanted you to

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play, right, yes, becauseyou're a little bit tall, right,
yes. And if I'm a volleyballcoach and I'm walking down the hallway,
I'm like, hey, you comeover here. I want you to play
volleyball. No longer playing softball becauseyou want you fell in love with with
this, right correct? What greatis your brother in? He just graduated?
Okay, so now and you're goingto be a senior. Is he

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going to at where's he going?Is he going to school? Yes?
Where's he going? William Penn Universal? So he's the one going to and
he's going to shoot there? Yes? Was there some scholarship available for him?
Really? Well? Dad likes thatright, yes? Yeah, parents
and parents are happy with that.Can we talk a little bit about what's
going on next weekend for you guys, it's it's Nationals? Nationals? Where's

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that health? Ohio? So youguys all getting in advance or meeting there
or how you doing that? Wemost of us will drive separately, and
some of us camp and some standhotels. Some of you guys camp another
thing I'm not doing. There'd betterbe a hotel room for me. I
tried camping once. I was nogood at that either. For sure?
Are you camping or a hotel?We are camping? You are? Are

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you excited about that? I am? Have you camped before? Yeah?
Well we have a camper okay,Okay, that's not in a tent and
stuff like that, right Aubrey,Are you staying in a hotel or camping?
I'm staying in the hotel. Yeah, me too, in the hotel?
Smart? Smart girls? There haveyou? Have you guys? Have
you been to Nationals before? I'msure? How difference between Worlds and Nationals

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is Worlds as all adults mostly thereis only a few kids in Worlds,
okay, and nationals all kids?All kids? Do you get nervous before
these? Absolutely? Do you getnervous before? Definitely? You guys are
nervous now about it? Not toomuch? Is this team or individual?

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Nationals is mostly individual, but thereis some team awards. Okay, man,
Well we're going to continue talking traction. Do you hear by the questions
I have that I literally don't knowmuch about this. I did find some
questions to ask and they kind oflaughed at me, like what are you
used to launch clay pigeons in theair? And the you can say mechanical

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arms, explosives. That was myguess or nuts, that was my guess.
That was your guest, not aclue. Not a clue. I
know as much as you do.Mike. That's awesome. You and I
combine and you know what. Theguy behind you knows everything. So anything
we need to know, we askedBrad Patters. I did go to a
dinner with some family last week's Sundayout on Big Muskigo Lake and they have

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a trap shooting place right out thereat buck Horn I believe was the name
of it, or buck Horn?What is it? A boxhorn? Boxhorn?
You're worse than I I am terrible. Here's another question, what type
of ammunition? Let let me askyou this, what type of ammunition should
be used for clay pigeon shooting largeapproach, tracer rounds, bird shot or
lead shots. Lead shots. Correct, let's go to break at Yeah,

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I can't. I well, Iwas pretty sure it wasn't tracer rounds.
I was pretty sure about that one. But the rest I had no idea.
I was right, let's just goto break No, let go,
let's say what is what is setup during clay pigeon shooting? Net terrain
target? Trap? Target? Nobody, Brett, come on in, all

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right, let me ask you again? What is set up during clay pigeon
shooting a net terrain target or trappterrain target and trap? There you go,
and Andrew said net so I thinkhe said that depend on the discipline
that's being shot, and then thethe discipline. Let's say, if it's

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boring, clay is terrain comes intoplay. If it's trap, it's based
off of the target and the andthat's why we brought him in. I'm
gonna hold on a second. Let'slet's Briandon. Let me ask you this
one. What should shooters think ofbefore shooting clay pigeons? Direction of position,

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color of clay pigeon, size,of the target or wind speed,
all the above, all of theabove. Well, those glasses y'all wear
that brightens up that that yes,you pick them out according to which target.
I had no idea what that haden. And I like to wearing those
glasses because I can see what youguys are shooting at. Let's get to

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a break. The other side ofthe break will continue. Guys, we're
talking trap shooting with some kids andcoaches that know a lot about the sport
and have fallen in love with itfor a number of reasons. We're going
to ask these athletes their favorite memoryof being part of the Red Knight trap
shooting team so far in their careerwith this team. This is the Varsity
Blitz High School Sports Show, presentedby your local Pick and Safe stores of

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the Big nine twenty in your iHeartRadio app. Welcome back to the Varsity
Blitz High School Sports show is alwayspresented by your local Pick and Save stores
on the Big nine twenty in youriHeartRadio app. Coming live from the Donovan
and Jorganston Heating and Cooling Studios.I'm having fun, guys, just learning

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about trap shooting and everything involved inthat, and it's not just hitting the
clay of the pigeon. It's notit's this whole family kind of team atmosphere
at least with this team with theRed Knights. Coach by Brad Patterson and
Cole Bron Again, thank you somuch for the introduction. Guys. Before
we get to the memory part ofit, I asked you if it's raining,

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do you shoot? And you guyswent nuts. You said, not
only rain, but snow as longas no lightning. And you had talked
about the first the first one thatyou shot, there was like a foot
of snowy close to them. Wewere up in Door County and it was
just it was so cold. Itwas windy and still snowing, and it
was everybody was just freezing and itwas miserable. And you still can stay

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You're still on the team. Yeah, that's awesome, Hey, coach,
if you could pull so when Iasked you to bring some some kids that
that would be good ambassadors for youfor this team and this sport. Well
done. These girls and you gota lot of guys they weren't available,
but these girls were willing to comein and talk about the sport and certainly

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talk about being part of this teamyou got to feel pretty good about When
they talk, it's it's all likepassion. Oh yeah, they're they're absolutely
great roll miles for our team.They're they're terrific Christian young ladies. Couldn't
be more proud of them. Awesome. Do you do you think you know
the answers that they're going to giveas far as favorite memories of being part

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of this team. I think someof the answers, but I'll probably be
a little bit surprised, and itwouldn't surprise me if their favorite mimics close
to mine as well. Well,we're going to find this out, Brianna.
Let's start with you your favorite memoryso far being part of this team.
So, the seven girls on ourteam, we created a squad named
flower Power. There it is socooking, you even got a little We

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all have matching bracelets that one ofour teammates made for us, and we
have a group chat and every oncein a while we'll text and say who
wants to go shooting today? Whowants to do this? And we all
get together and we all go shoot. And the seven girls, this is
the first time this team has everhad that many, especially close together,

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and so we were all super closeand we love to go shooting all the
time. And that's thank you forthat. That's a really good memory.
June. Let's go over to youyour favorite memory so far being part of
this team. My favorite memory wouldprobably have to be Sporting Clay State my
first year. It was me oneof my best friends, Jolie, she

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shot with us, she was anew shooter. And then it was Mia,
Tia and Angie. Yeah, soMia, Tia, and Angie had
all shot on the team before.They were very accomplished, well dressed shooters.
They carried themselves well. They theywere like my biggest supports, my
biggest role models. They showed melike what to do and when to do
it, and that day I justabsolutely bombed it. Like my score was

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solo and I was so down onmyself, and then all of a sudden,
they all looked at me and they'relike, whatever, just shoot,
Like we had gone out shot beforeand it was just fun and they're like,
you know what, it's just justhave fun. And then from that
point on, I just kind oflike went out and every time I shot,
I thought about them, and I'mlike mine as well. Just have

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fun. It's just to score.It's not gonna matter tomorrow. When I
went up, you know that's unusual, right, I mean understand team sports.
If there are you know, anda basketball team, four guys having
a good game and one notot forthose four to put their armor on that
one and say, hey, don'tworry about it, let's just go.
Man, just have fun with thisthing. That that shows really strong leadership

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to me. And I appreciate thatstory. Aubrey, how about you.
Mine's probably conference championships. When sowe all got together and we shot and
then we had a word. Andthen at our banquet, our friend who
is on our flower Power squat amber, she brought us all flowers and we

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took a bunch of photos together andwe just had a lot of fun.
Coach, my favorite memory is thesame every year, and that's where you
take an athletes who's never done itbefore and you watch them get better,
you watch them apply, you watchthem improve. So I can take Aubrey
her first year. She started outlike everybody does. She had never done

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it before. You hit two orthree your first time out, you go
through the struggles during the season,and then a week ago at stay trapped.
She took second in her class witha ninety one after starting with a
three, So ninety one, Ihave one hundred and she was in actually
the same boat as Brianna. Wecould go with the worlds where when Aubrey

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shot her score, that was doneon Saturday. She had to way through
all the shooting on Sunday until aboutthe last hour when another girl posted ninety
two and bettered her by one target. But still you see the improvement and
how they get better, and tome, that's what it's about. And
then obviously them being great young adults. I'll take that any day of the

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week over the scores, the trophiesand the medals and everything are nice.
But I'm more impressed when I watchedtheir improvement and how they get buried and
how they become better young adults.Did you have anything to do with naming
flower power? I bet I hadnothing to do with that. I had
nothing to do with that. Butit's embraced full fully. You know,

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hard to get girls to come outand be part of the team with seven,
that's a good number, right,seven is a good number. It's
a third of our team. Butthe thing about our team with the girls
is we fluctuated between different numbers,but once you get the first one,
then you start to get more.You needed the first one we had that
That was in probably our fourth orfifth year we got the first girl,

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and ever since then we've had girlson the team every year. And to
be asked a little bit easier tocoach than the boys. The girls have
a little bit of emotion, butthe boys have egos. So I'll take
the girls any day. Hey,Brinda, when I asked you, do
you like shooting against you know,boys or girls or both? And you

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said you know it both because sometimesboys think they're better. And I like
to prove that maybe you know thisflower power thing is for real exactly.
Yes, that's that's correct. Goodfor you. When when you won Worlds,
was it against all girls or both? Both? And all all ages?

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All ages? My goodness, graciouscoach, you got to feel really
good about about this team, andI can't thank you enough. I've got
about four thousand more questions that Icould ask to get technical with the sport.
But it's not about that. Youcan teach somebody. I can teach
somebody to shoot a free throw.You can teach somebody to shoot to be,
but to be part of this team. There's more than just being a

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a good shot. It's about beinga good teammate, about being strong in
your faith. And I like youand I like that, and I thank
you for coming into talking about it. Yeah, those are two cornerstones of
what we do. It's about theeffort, you know, applying your technique,
your process. They hear this allthe time from you and to the
point where it probably gets a littleboring, but it's about the effort.

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It's about the representation and then mostlyit's about having fun. That's awesome,
guys. Thank you for coming andit's so good to see you again and
to spend time talking you guys.This is the Varsity Blitz High School Sports
Show presented by your local Pick andSafe Stores on the Big nine twenty in
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(46:45):
iHeart Radio app. Coming live fromthe Donovan and Jorgensen Heating and Cooling Studios,
talking trap shooting. I'm telling youa year ago, and Andrew,
you grabbed the microphone. You know, when we started doing this a year
ago, between baseball and football,we came up with the idea, let's
talk about sports that nobody else talksabout. Right. We talked swimming and

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diving and bowling and all kinds ofstuff last year, this year, last
week we talked fishing and it wasreally interesting to me. It just was
it's huge and trap shooting. Iknow as much about fishing as I do
trap shooting, which is nothing.And I've learned a lot going to that
practice that they had last week atWaksha Gun Club and to watch these kids

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interact and watch them practice and makefun of each other and then help each
other, and the whole idea ofthat sport being very individual yet very team
concept. It's interesting how much someof these kids fall in love with this
sport. I've mentioned it before,but it's cool to see the culture in

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different sports, and it's similar nomatter the sport. The culture seems to
be the same within the programs thatseem to be well run. And let's
be honest, you're really only bringingin some of the better run programs around
the area. And by the way, to the idea of US and guns
we both grew up in Milwaukee County, where guns are not elite, guns

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are not legals. Well, I'mtelling you we shouldn't have any knowledge.
When I said the first five minutesof me being at the Walk shot Gun
Club, every time I heard whenI ducked it, I'm not kidding,
like nobody else is even They're justlike going about their business and I'm like,
I'm not getting shot over here,are we? They're like no.
My wife's like, you're going where, be careful. You should wear a
vest. I said, I'm notwearing a vest to the gun club.

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But I watched them and how muchrespect they had for the gun that they
had and how much they just thesafety side of it is really important.
I think more than anything in thissport, you have to be like that
is along with like fishing and youknow, staying in a boat safe and
you know avoiding drowning. Those arestaying alive is number one. But the

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kids are able to enjoy what seemslike is an awesome sport for each of
them. So I want to thinkthat the girls and the team from the
Red Knights, and it's certainly BradPatterson, who's the president of the Walk
shot Ry Gun Club, and wedidn't have any time to talk to him
about that, but the fact thathe's been so open with his time to
talk to me. Years ago,I worked with a woman over at a

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different radio station. She doesn't workthere anymore either, and she's just one
of my favorite people of all time. She's just a really hard worker and
fun to talk to. And herdaughter started getting in the trap and I'm
like, what what is she doing? And and she said, no,
she's she's pretty good at it andshe really likes it. And so I

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called them and they said, comein studio, and if for nothing else,
I got a chance to see Karinagain. Krin, how you been?
How are you good? Your sonmulti sport athlete? Right, he
likes all kinds of sports, hedoes. Yes, Yeah, you're got
hooked down the trap and she huntsyou hunt as well? Right? Yes,

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you live in the Eagle area,We do, yes, And she
goes to mcguanago. And when shestarted getting involved in trap, were you
fully supportive for that? Yep,that's why we actually sent her to mcguanaga
instead of East Troy. Really yep, Hey, you don't want to be
here at all, it's good tosee you, honey, all grown up,

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heading off to college. Where areyou going? I'll be attending U
w Ashkosh, you will be Areyou gonna come home every weekend? Maybe
not for the first couple of weeks, but maybe I don't know yet.
Your your mom's you know, sheruns an apartment in Ashcosh. Right,
Oh you didn't know that I did. She doesn't want to be away from

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you. That's going to be atough drive home for her when when she
when she you know, moves youinto that dorm in in Ashcosh. How
old were you when you hear atrap? I was a freshman in high
school. But I would always goup north to my grandparents place and like
shoot at milk jogs and there wasa little like trap holy thing that I'd

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shoot off of and it would onlybe like three clays. And once I
found out they had a shooting team, my stepdad was like, well,
you're doing it whether you like itor not. Yea Richard, Yeah,
fully supportive of this. Yes,And you hunt? I do? Are
you? You hunt differently than yourmom? Right? Like does when your

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mom like stand some warm house andthen yes, window or something Yeah,
she has like her own hunting blind. It has a heater. While I'm
sitting out there freezing my butt off, but do you know that she also
has a big screen TV. Yeah, and she's got a little bit of
stove, a little refrigerator. Yeah, it's kind of a home. Actually

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does no, she doesn't do that. Have you hunted a long time?
Krin? Yep? So as akid, was it your mom? Dad?
Was it a family thing? Itwas a family thing. My dad
started us with me and my brothersboth taking hunter safety together, and my
dad took it with us. Actuallyreally and so from as a kid you
hunt? I told you I wenthunting once and a two day hunt trip,

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and I pretended I was sick daytwo so I could stay in the
warm cabin and watch the Packer game. Because it just wasn't for me.
I didn't understand it. I'd neverbeen around guns before. I was so
impressed going to the walk shop.I've never been to a gun club except
the one that I worked at whenI was thirteen and quick day two because

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it wasn't any good. I wasin that in the skeet little hut and
I had to put the clay pigeonson and the first day was just a
practice and it was nice and easyto pace. And then a tournament,
and midway through the tournament you hada white flag. I just waved it,
got out and started running home.And I had no idea what they
were doing out there other than Icould hear the gunshot and I So we

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weren't ever brought up in that worldat all when you decided to join the
team. Are there other girls aton the Mcgonagah team. Yes, so
the last team there are seven outof nineteen were girls, which is a
huge number many. How many girlson the Mcgonagao team this year there's a

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lot. Yeah, there's quite afew of us. Actually, were you
Was it very welcoming to join thatteam as a freshman? Yes, it
was. I was a little scaredthough at first, because I didn't really
know anyone, and some of thekids have been doing it a lot longer
than I have. Did you findthose kids to say, oh, it's

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okay, come on, you don'thave to be good to be part of
our team and just practice. Wasit an easy sport to get better at
a little bit. Yes, butit's more of like the mental game where
you it's hard to get out ofyour head. Once you're in your head,
it's definitely hard to get out ofit. And you got you were

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injured this year? Yes, lastwhat happened? So I actually ended up
pinching a nerve in my shoulder becauseI had my gun mounted too high on
my shoulder. But I didn't realizeit at the time until I went to
go shoot at a bird and mywhole arm just went completely numb and I
was in a really bad, likeshooting pain. And I finished the round

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and I came off and I juststarted crying because I was in so much
pain. Krin, how did youknow? I've been around when my son's
been injured on the basketball floor andit it it It hurt like in your
gut. You're like, oh no, what what did I do? Or
what did they do? And howdo I get her better? Did she
you take her to the doctor?And in yep, she's been going to

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a chiropractor that's been working with her. It was really to have to see
because it is her senior year andlast year she came off of like her
best year ever, her absolute bestyear, and then this year she gets
injured and she missed half the season. How did you You're a big fan
of your coach, I know ifI'm talking to your mom and what is
his name? Uh? Tim?Okay? And and Tim's done a nice

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job as a coach. Yes.How did he react when you got injured?
He was definitely sad because we havelike a really strong relationship, and
it was it kind of hurt meand him both because I wasn't showing up
to practice and I had to cancelon a few tournaments because I still just

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I wasn't one hundred percent, Soit was kind of hard on the bar.
Are you one hundred percent now?Yes? A little bit? Yeah.
How do you remember the first timeyou went out to shoot after the
injury, not knowing if you wereone hundred percent? And and was that
difficult mind wise to be able tosay, Okay, I'm back? Uh?

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Yeah, a little bit because whenafter that I got back on the
line because I had one more roundand I just thought like this is gonna
be my worst round ever because I'min pain. But I ended up like
toughing it through and I actually shotreally good. How did you do it?
A couple of weeks ago, upup in Wisconsin Rabbateria and is that

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notat when it world? State?State State? How did you do?
Did you I did good. Ishot eighty six out of one hundred,
which it's not my best. Butthe weather was kind of really bad too,
So I didn't understand until last segmentthat rain, yeah we shoot rain

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shine, but if it's like lightningout then we won't. But yeah,
any weather can get conditions. June, who was in last Time hurt the
first time she ever shot. Theywere up in Door County and there's a
foot of snow and she said itwas super cold and she goes and I
was horrible, and you know what, but she still fell in love with

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this sport. Did you know earlyon that this was something that like if
I asked you your freshman year thatyou were going to do this for four
years and Iguanago, did you knowyou'd be part of this team? Yes?
Why, it's just the people andthe sport too, Like it's very

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it's just a very welcoming community,especially with the people and the sport is
just like you just get to havefun. What I found and what I'm
starting to learn with this is you'reinvolved in a sport that you might do
for the rest of your life,and you'll get married and have kids and
teach your kids how to do this. You can see yourself. Guys my

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age are like I wish I wouldhave played golf when I was younger,
because now you know, I'm older, I'm not playing basketball more and not
playing softball anymore, but I cangolf until I'm eighty. Similar to trap
shooting, when I was over atthe Walkshot gun Club, there was people
of all ages. There was aten year old or an eleven year old
there, and there were guys intheir seventies shooting and everything in between.

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As I was walking through, andI'm thinking, man, I'm wondering if
those guys started when they were likeyour age, because they were having a
ball they and in fact, oneof the guys was using and I don't
know what kind of gun, butthese kids were all going, I can't
believe he's using that gun to shoot. That had no idea what they were
talking about, and I just went, oh, yeah, I can't believe

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it either, no clue, butI just wanted to be one of the
guys, be one of the individualside of it is, it's kind of
like wrestling, right, it's individual, but it's really team driven. Yeah,
do you like shooting against boys andgirls? Would you prefer to shoot
against only girls or what's your thoughton that? For me, it really

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doesn't matter because when I'm kind ofshooting, I kind of just like do
my own thing and I kind ofblock everyone out. And what discipline do
you guys shoot? I'm going togo, oh, we only do trap.
So when you're shooting, that statehow many people are shooting in the
same group with you? Is anindividual five of us? Do you even

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watch anybody else? I see?I would that would drive me nuts.
I'd want to watch everybody and tryto know where I'm where I'm standing against
the four others. But I thinkit's important that you just concentrate on yourself,
right, Yeah, I don't watcheveryone else. When I'm up on
the line. I kind of justlike look at the ground because I just

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want to focus on how I'm doing. But I do also care about my
teammates. But I also just don'twant to get in my head like,
oh, they just did really good. Now I feel like I have to
go. When it's my turn,I have to hit this what's a good
round for you out of one hundred? Like, what do you have?
You just said eighty six and yousaid it wasn't my best round, but

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I toughed through it and I did. Okay when you started, what were
you shooting? When I started,I was, you know, one thing
I love about your mom, understandI'd love her to play polker with me
because I would know what she hadin her hand. Well. Her facial
reaction when I asked that was like, ooh, yeah it was. It

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was not very good. But atthe time, I was still like understanding
the whole concept of it. Iwas still trying to like get in the
groove of things, and I wasstill learning. But I'd say maybe I
was in like the fifties. Yeah, I think your average was maybe eleven.
Yeah when you first started. Yeah, and what is it? What

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what last year is a junior?What was it last year was like a
almost a twenty one? Yeah outof twenty five? Yeah, okay,
Because when you said, and we'retalking a hundred, and I thought I
could do eleven out of one hundred, I think, yeah, best round
you've ever had out out of onehundred. My best round actually was a
ninety seven out of one hundred.I ended up doing a seventy four out

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of a seventy five on the lastthree year, last three rounds, so
I was close to a seventy fiveout of Do you just get into it
like a kid on a basketball floorthat hits six three or six shots in
a row says, look, Ijust got in a zone, right,
the hooplick this big, and I'mmaking everything. Just don't overthink it,

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right, just keep doing what you'redoing. Yeah, I always like play
music in my head to like kindof distract me from like what's going on
and like what's all happening, justso like I try not to think about
it too much. It might soundweird, but it actually it really helps
me. What is it like lovesongs or just like kind of like anything

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really Well, we're gonna find song. Yeah, I like hum a song
too. Andrew is gonna we're gonnafigure out during the break because we'll come
back in the break with a songthat sometimes is stuck in your head.
Let's get to a break, Andrew, I've got a number of questions.
We're joined in studio, we're talkingtrap shooting, and I've learned more about

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this sport. And I can tellyou that the fishing show I did it
made me want to go out andtry fishing a little bit more. I'm
not really sure. I'm Andrew.What about you? You want to go
trap shooting after the show? Igot plans after the show today, but
I say we go to that spoton Big Muscigo Lake and give Rid a

(01:02:42):
shut what's the name big box onBuckhorn, box box on boxbox, or
you know what? We should justgo to the Walk show one because Brad
Patterson is in the studio, he'sthe president. He might be able to
hook us up. Let's go.We'll shoot fifty and we'll come back and
we'll just be careful. Don't shootme. I'm a big target. Don't

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be doing that. We're gonna getto a break. Emma Kappain and and
my friend Krinn sell Housen, whois Emma's mom, And she's so proud
of Emma. I can tell youthat it's been a journey for your mom.
We've had a lot of conversations.She is that that ride home from
Ashcash is going to be brutal forher. Yeah, yeah, she she's

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so proud of you. She isjust so proud of you. We're gonna
get to a break and we'll continueour conversation with Emma and Krin. This
is the Varsity Blitz High School SportsShow, presented by your local Pick and
Safe Stores on the Big nine twenty. In your iHeart Radio app, Welcome
back. That song is hearty hereon Love Size is the love song?

(01:03:47):
No it's not, it's not.Welcome back to the Varsity Blitz High School
Sports Show, presented by your localPick and Saved Stores on the Big nine
twenty in your iHeartRadio app. It'scold in this studio. Think Donovan and
Jorganson. He did any cooling studios. It is cold for sure, and
thank goodness the air conditioning he's working. We're talking trap shooting this last segment.

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We're gonna talk trap shooting because thatnext segment, Andrew and I are
going to talk a little bit aboutnext next week. In fact, Emma,
I would give you one hundred guestto talk about the sport. To
guess the sport we're talking about nextweek. I can give you one hundred
guesses, and you would never getunderwater hockey, would you? Oh that's
different underwater hockey. We're talking nextweek. Didn't even know that existed.

(01:04:30):
But a friend of mine's grandson playsunderwater hockey at Michigan State and he's back
in town. Lives in o'conomwalk's comingin studio, talk about underwater hockey.
The first we're talking Arrowhead track andfield because they won state. So you
had some athletes and their coach comingin town. Yep, coach talking though
about a trap right now with EmmaKevin. She is from Iguanago. Graduated.

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You didn't graduate, right, Idid. Still you're still boy crazy
because you were in sixth grade.I mean, I guess you could say,
did that you got that from yourmama? Yeah? Probably. Karen
Cellhouseen is in studio. And Karinand I worked together for a long time,
and I can tell you, andI will say this live on the

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radio. One of the hardest,working, nicest people that I ever worked
with, and I miss her alot. We worked really well together.
She got my humor and her humoris very dry, and I thought,
wow, she's kind of quiet,and then she starts to open up.
Nothing quiet about this girl. Heydo you go to all And I don't

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know are they called meats match?What are they called tournaments tournaments? Do
you go to all of her tournaments? Of course? Well, there's one
I missed because my son was sick, so I stayed home with him,
and then Richard went with Emma.How are you during Do you get nervous
for her? Oh? Gosh,yes you do. Do you We walk
away sometimes when she's shooting, sowe don't watch they do you guys?

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Do you have the ears you have? I have like little earphones that are
like fitted for my ear, soyou can't hear your mom yelling at you
from the back. No, areyou quiet during these? Oh? Yes
you are. Yeah. I payattention if I'm watching and not walking away.
So it was very nerve wracking becauseyou wanted to you know, she

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can do really good and she's putin the work she does, and then
all it takes is one bird andthen it just messes with her mind.
And do you wear those glasses thateverybody works? Yeah? I have like
three different lenses. I have aorange one, a purple one, and
a yellow one because with the weatheryou want to be able to see the
bird better, so those different colorshelp you see the bird better. So

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I had no idea until Brad Patterson, who's the coach, and the guy
who was just in studio. Iwas out there and he said, here,
you want to see better? Putthese on and I said, no,
I have my classes. No,no, try these. I was
like, what the heck? Likeyou the orange really pops? Yes?
And I said, he said,yeah. Everybody has their own whatever works

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for them. So depending on theweather, are you a good shooter in
the rain? Yeah, yeah,that doesn't bother you. Not really does.
Wind? Wind definitely does. Becausethe clays are so light, the
wind can either push them way upor way down. So you just gotta
pay attention to where the birds areflying. Have you shot in the snow?

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I have yeah, no problem withthat, not really? No,
Will you continue? Does Ashosh haveany kind of trap of Uh? They
don't. But I'm hoping that maybethere's like a gun club up there I
can enjoin. And I've told thisstory and I told at the last hour
on that TV show around the cornerof John McGivern, I did up in

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Ashcosh. We did it on TrapShooting. They had a great high school
co op team and they have areally nice gun club there. Yeah that
I tried and missed five in arow, and that codn't do it.
Yeah, I couldn't figure it out. They kept saying trace it, you're
not tracing, and I didn't knowwhat that meant. And the little kid
was laughing at me, and hetook one shot and hit it, and

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that's what we went with. Ifthey and I'm sure they'll have a gun
club, they might have some kindof club shooting up there, don't they.
I actually looked the other day andthey had like a rifle range.
Okay, so maybe they'll be hopefully. If not, you'll continue on your
own, I'm sure. Yeah.Has it made you a better hunter?

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Do you think? Personally? Ithink it has? Correct. Boy,
you roll your eyes a lot ather once she's not looking. Do you
think it's made her a better hunter? Yes? There was one year we
both shot deer the same year.I was no. I shot mine first

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though, but mine was bigger.I think it's who comes first, don't
you? Yeah? Yeah, no, I really don't believe. I wasn't
in a fancy stand with a heater, Yeah, with the fridge and yeah,
and then she has people that deliverfood to her. You didn't know
that either, did you? Hey, do you have you tried trap shooting

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Krinn? Yeah? So up North. Actually, when I'm a first started,
I would do it. I would. I wasn't very good. Richard.
Does Richard do it? Oh?Yeah, he goes out trap shooting
with you. I've beaten him,but he won't like to hear that.
Richard. You los her. Youlet her beat you. Come on,
now, well you should beat him, you know he he just sent me

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a text. He lets you beathim so that you feel better about yourself.
You don't believe that, No,no, not at all. When
when the the the size of theteam mcgwonago, has it grown since you've
gotten involved? Has it stayed thesame? Has it been flat or has
it got It has definitely grown becauselast year we actually did end up combining

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with East Troy, so there werea lot more kids and a lot more
have been joining. I think wehave a lot of This year, we
had a lot of middle schoolers definitelythat joined us well. And like the
last group, I didn't even knowthat Aubrey was just going to be a
freshman and she's been doing this along time, and they the girls on
that team, I don't know.You didn't get to hear this part.

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I don't think. They started alittle group called the Flower par and that's
the seven girls and they're all in. They all go practice together and and
so they they stick together and theywant to compete against the boys. I
can tell you that Brianna said thather brother's better than she is. But
she did win, you know,the state or Worlds or whatever. She

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won, and I just she wasso happy and proud. It was interested
me because she had missed six ina row and she was able to get
her mind set and when she hitthat that next one and she was able
to get on a run and thenstay hot the rest of the time.
What I did I couldn't do,is is wait a day to find out

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if I win or not. Likethat would put me in it. I
would just be crazy with that.You're going to Ohio next week? Uh?
Yeah. The difference between the Nationalsand that is that Nationals, yes,
and and a state tournament more moremore shooters obviously, yes, higher
competition. How have you done inin Nationals? Have you competed fairly well?

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Yes? I have. Last year, I think I was just like
really nervous because like there's a lotof kids that go down there. Yeah,
and a lot of your teammates goingyeah, A good chunk of them.
It's more individual thing, it is, yes, and will you be
Will you get all your shooting donein one day? Uh no, I'll
get it done in two days.It's a nice family trip, right yeah,

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yeah, yeah, are you it'sa good I have to Ohio?
Right, all four of you going, No, Biden is not He is
not braid A little boring for him. Do you think Braiden will get involved
in trap shooting? Well, yeah, he has a a own coach.
Now, yeah, she's gonna coachhim. You are, Yeah, I
bet he's gonna be tough in thebeginning because he's he wants to be good

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and right, he's pretty good bowler, right, well, yeah, he's
an excellent bowler. Well you sawme, you and I we went.
I was one, you were twoin that that last tournament that we're in.
I beat you, right, Idid beat you. I did beat
me by not by a lot,not a bowler, and I took first.

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I guess I got lucky. Iguess I did get lucky. I
did. I'll take it been becauseyou're bowling with me. I just didn't
want to lose you because I wouldnever hear the end of it. And
I just remembered that in that thatwhen we worked together, they had a
big day of everybody's going to bowland and uh, yeah, I'm still
a little shocked. I beat yourmom. She's very competitive. Did you

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know that about her? Yeah?Do you know why she doesn't trap shoot
anymore because she would lose to youand she doesn't want to hear about it.
Yeah, exactly. I mean rightaway I had the bigger dear.
Well, I get the first year. Yeah, I like that. Hey,
when when your team has your howdoes your team do this year?
Did you guys have a good year? Yeah? We did. Our intermediate

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advanced group of kids actually one stayso first place. Okay tell me that
again. You're inner are intermediate advanced. So it's the kids that have been
doing this for two years. Okay, it's like eighth grader. Yeah,
okay, man, good for them. So the future is bright. Yeah,

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you're going to miss being part ofthis team. Huh yeah, definitely.
Hey, And I love asking kidslike you this, And I'm sorry
I didn't give you a heads up. I apologize for that. But your
favorite memory of being part of thisteam. Mcgwanago. Now that your your
career is over there, what's yourfavorite memory being part of that group?
My favorite memory would definitely be shootingmy highest score, which was the ninety

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seven out of one hundred. Ihelp the team a lot, right,
Yeah, when you when you dothat, the team part of it is
is obviously important, right you wantyou want to be able to help your
team. Yeah, always cheering forfor your teammates to do well. Yes,
yeah, I think that part ofyour sport is it's different than it

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is in other sports, right.Yeah, Even in a sport like basketball,
which is very team orientated, thereare teams that I've had that kids
didn't want other kids to do well, and that that that is a very
difficult team concept. How much doyou guys? How much did you guys
practice? So, since we onlydo trap, we only practice one day

(01:14:59):
out of the way, so thatwould either be Mondays or Wednesdays. And
what's your home where do you guys? We practice at Southeastern Rod and Gun
Club. Okay, that's in EastTroy. Yeah, nice to have the
East Troy kids join you, Yeah, I would say, so you get
to certainly introduce yourself, yes,yes to more people. Do you have

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kids that have gone on into collegeto shoot, Yes, we have.
We have had a couple kids shootcollegiate is what we call it. Yeah.
Yeah, the twin boys from thatteam, that three of the boys
in fact, are all going toshoot in college and all got scholarships.
Nice. Yeah, that would havebeen nice. Right. Yeah, Well,

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she she might shoot collegiate for mcguanagalbecause she can. Oh I didn't
know she yes, So she mightcome down and shoot with mcguanago Still she
can because she's going to school.Oh I didn't. I didn't know that
she could do that. Is thatsomething that have you talked to coach him
about that? Yes? And it'ssomething I'm definitely like looking into. Yeah.

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I think it's going to depend.First. You got to get take
care of your school work up TI. Yeah. You can see your mom
there rolling her eyes like, ohboy, that's gonna be difficult, right.
Nobody's there to wake you up everyday, nobody's there to say,
hey, get your homework done.That first year is the hardest and you
got to stay really focused and disciplined. I would think that trap shooting has

(01:16:28):
taught you to be disciplined in thatpart, right, Definitely, What part
of if you don't come back toshoot with them? Is it the camaraderie
with the rest of the team thatyou're going to miss the most? Ah?
Yeah, I will definitely miss mostof my teammates if they do if
some of them shoot collegiate. Yeah, And I'll definitely miss my coach too.

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Yeah. Hey, you're this coachand we've we've talked about him and
he's out of town or we invitedhim to come and studio us. You're
impressed with him. He's done alot of good things for your daughter in
that program. Yep. He's kindof taken Emma under his wing. And
I don't think she'd be as goodas what she is if she wasn't with

(01:17:10):
him, if she didn't have himfor a coach. When when you get
in the car after she's had areally good tournament or not a great tournament,
are you just quiet or do youdo you say like, why did
you why didn't you have a bettertournament? How do you how do you
help coach her? As her mom? Well, if she does bad,

(01:17:32):
she feels like she's letting Richard down, and so then we do have a
talk with her, and like Richardtalks to her, he calms her down,
like he's kind of her second coach. I guess you could say,
uh, and it's like you're notdisappointing me. You did the best you
could, like chin up, You'llget it better, Like you'll do better
next time. You're lucky Richard's around, because i'd say, hey, why

(01:17:55):
don't you run behind the car?You know what it's not You're not allowed
in mind in my car right now. If you don't get over ninety two,
you're not You're gonna have to walkhome something like that. Do you
go out and shoot on your ownlot? Yes? So the gun club
where we actually practice has like abunch of different leagues that you can join.

(01:18:16):
So I've actually done a Hunt andCover league, winter league, and
I'm in a summer league right now, and there's gonna be a ladies league
coming up this month. You know, your mom might join the ladies leg
They've tried to get me to join. I said no because she'll shoot me.
But but it's okay because some ofthe girls they even told her to

(01:18:38):
like it's okay. Yeah, youjust don't want to hear the smack talk.
You know when she you understand whenyou go off to college, she's
going to join every league and getas good as she can. So when
you come back, she can beShe can be better. How are you
gonna be when she heads off,Tash, We don't talk about it,
well, I'm asking and talk aboutit because I'll cry. People have cried

(01:19:03):
on this show before, including me. It's gonna be hard dropping her.
Yeah, do you know? AndI've told this story one hundred times.
When we dropped my daughter off atcollege, she said, don't call her
right me For thirty days starting mynew chapter, my son came home every
weekend. He's the starting point guardon the basketball team all four years of

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college. He came home every weekend. It was just totally opposite. And
my daughter was like, and Isaid, yeah, okay. My wife
was crying and and but that thiswas a different chapter for her. Difficult
when when we're driving and it's gonnabe hard for you, and it will
be, but you're you know what. You have a lot of trust in

(01:19:45):
her that she'll make good decisions.She'll be raised right, and I think
I think she'll do great about AshGosh, I do. Yeah, and
I hope she continues to trapshoot becauseit's something that she's fall in love with
and she's really good at. Andso, hey, guys, it's good
to see you. You did good. You didn't want to come in so
much, but you know I did. Actually, yeah, you did good.

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I think you represented the sport reallywell. And I love the fact
that you're willing to talk about yourcoach in the way that you've talked about
him, because I think good coachesmake a world of difference and they can
make a huge impact on kids lives. So Crant is so good to see
you. Yeah, let's let's notwait this long. Let's give Tiffany a

(01:20:26):
call and let's uh, let's meetout for a sandwich. And we always
have lots of fun stories to talkabout. So yeah, it's good to
see you. Good luck in midAugust is that when you go like of
August and of August, Yeah,maybe you shouldn't go. Maybe she's just
send Richard because you know what,he's going to be crying too, so

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you better go with him. Guys. It's good to see you guys again.
So when you get to a breakon this side of the break,
Andrew and I are going to finishthe show. We got a number of
things when I talk about, includinga big move by a guy who's so
much in high school basketball in thestate of Wisconsin, has has moved over
and he's going to be doing somethingelse and we're going to talk a little

(01:21:09):
bit about things he's doing, andthen we'll highlight a couple of shows coming
up in the next couple of weeks. This is the Varsity Blitz High School
Sports Show presented by your local Pickand Saved stores on the Big nine to
twenty in your iHeart Radio app.Welcome back to the Varsity Blitz High School
Sports Show, presented by your localPick and Save stores on the Big nine

(01:21:30):
twenty in your iHeartRadio app. Cominglive from the Donovan and Jorganson Heating and
Cooling Studios. Come mid August orso, we'll get back to name it
our Pick and Save Student Athlete ofthe Week. Looking forward to doing that.
I want to think Brad Patterson,head coach of the Red Knights trap
shooting team, along with June andAubrey and Brianna, and then Emma Kappit

(01:21:53):
and Corinn Sellhausen, Karinn and Ihave been friends for a long time,
and I'm such a fan of hers. And Emma's all grown up up and
she's looking forward to going to wOshkosh in mid August. End of August.
Krinn not so much, Andrew,you could hear that. And I've
been where she is, and Karennand Emma have been tied at the hip

(01:22:14):
for a long time, obviously herwhole life, and she's just it's going
to be hard for Corin. Iguess I didn't realize that. If my
parents were sad when I moved away, I think they were maybe thankful to
a certain degree, like, oh, it's nice to get them away for
a little bit. Maybe I wasn'ttoo far so ewm from Franklin wasn't a
too far of a drive. Nope. And my kids went to Mirnatha,

(01:22:34):
so it was forty five minutes,not Goosh isn't far, but it might
as well be on the other sideof You know, you're so used to
that dynamic of your house of gettingyour kids up, getting off to school,
you know, getting them fed,and now they're on their own,
and what you hope for and youpray for is they make good decisions and

(01:22:57):
I'm fairly confident with m I justyou know, she's she's a really neat
kid, and she's always had thisgreat personality and even when I first met
her sixth grade something like that,we would look you right in the eye
and say hello, mister mcgiffren,how are you and shake your hand?
And and and Krinn and Richard havedone a great job with Emma, and
she'll she will, she will leavea legacy at ub Ashkosh because she's that

(01:23:21):
kind of kid. You can tellthat the discipline that each of these girls
talked about is something that I thinkis going to translate to college. Getting
up and getting up on time,going to class on your own, hundred
percent, buying food and all thatstuff. The first basic necessity is a
freshman year. I feel like thatthat sports specifically, along with a lot

(01:23:42):
of other ones, prepare you forthat. Yeah, indirectly, I agree
one hundred percent with you. Sowe've talked dance, and you weren't there
for that show. You hunters stilltalking about it? Is it? I
don't know, I would assume becausethat was a really good show. But
what what we've we did this lastyear and we're doing it again. This
year with different sports. Last yearwas girls rugby and it was bowling.

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It was sports that neither one ofus know a lot about. And we've
done it now with dance, andwe've done it with fishing, and we've
we've done it with a number ofsports. Next week and this week again
it was all trap shooting, andI'm glad I went out to that practice
so I could get a feel forwhat it was. Next week it's it's
track and field. We've got thecoach from Arrowhead coming in with some athletes,

(01:24:28):
the boys coach, and I'm stilltrying to get a hold of the
girls coach to come and join usas well. They won a state championship,
and so I wanted to talk tothem. And then the second hour,
Pouly Koppodolowski and his grandmother Tana comingin and we're gonna talk a couple
of segments on underwater hockey. AndI've got to do some research on this.
I watched some video on it andit's it's pretty interesting. To be

(01:24:53):
honest with you, I did notknow it even existed. Obviously, I
knew trap shooting existed, I knewfishing and dancing all all that but underwater
hockey had no idea and looking forwardto having Polly Koppitolowski from Oconamwak come in
and talk about his sport that hefell in love with that Michigan state and
it should be interesting. I couldplay that sport in the shallow end.

(01:25:15):
That's easy enough where I'm walking around, but I'm assuming they're playing in a
deep water polo diving type And yet, no, thank you, I have
no idea. Are you a goodswimmer, Yeah, but I don't like
to Yeah, I'm a good swimmer, okay, but I don't know if
i'd want to exert that much tojust you go to the bottom of the
pool to move a ball around,Yeah, move a puck or maybe I

(01:25:35):
don't know what it is. Idon't And we're going to find out.
Paulie's kind enough to come in atten o'clock next week, and then the
following week we're going to talk volleyballfor a little wal. I've got I
think I have a girl that's goingto be a senior at DSHA that's already
committed to Wisconsin to play. Andthen I've got a woman who her daughter

(01:25:57):
played at Sussex Hamilton. She's goingto come in studio and talk about she's
going on to play in college,and I may ask you to stay an
extra hour that week because she's areally strong faith based student athlete, and
we'll talk to her about maybe beinga guest on Faith in the Zone.
My one of my best friends fromhigh school, Phil Lambe, is now
the new head coach for Franklin girlsvolleyball. Very happy for him, our

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alma mater. Yeah, do youknow what, talk to him about maybe
coming in a couple of weeks,and would love to have him join us.
We've joked in the you know,during college years. Well, one
day we'll be on a show together. Hello, you know what, talk
to him two weeks from today.If he has some interest in coming in.
I would love to pick his brain. I mean, being a head

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coach is a big different being ina sister to go in ahead and well
he's got experience in club volleyball aswell. Yeah, let's let's do that.
If we can't. So we've gotsome breaking new So Andrew, if
I say the godfather of high schoolmark basketball in the state of Wisconsin,
it's Mark Miller. Right, There'sno he is, there's no close second,

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ouch, ouch, you're my producer, you're you know what, he
is the man, and you knowwhat, we both we've talked about Mark
Miller behind his back on much respectwe have for I didn't know. I
didn't know what to expect, andhe couldn't have been a cooler dude to
me. Yeah, and he stillwill be. He has been part of

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with sports dot Net for a longtime and and I and I would tell
you that I read just about everythinghe writes, and he is uh.
He is left with Sports dot Netinteresting, and he is now part of
the Wisconsin Prep Network. He isThey announced that he has been named the
lead scout of Prep Hoops in Wisconsin. And my biggest concern and the questions

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that I've been asked now, ishe still going to be able to do
the the year book? Is hestill doing the w By shoot Out?
And the answers are yes and yes. And I'm happy that that that he's
you know, I've been involved withthat w By shootout in just a small
way in a long in a numberof years, and I'm really happy to

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hear that he's going to be continuingthat. And I can tell you that
the quote on on The press releasethat I read is perfect, and it's
from the editor in chief Jared Nelsonfrom UH from Preps Network, and he
says, it's not every day wherewe're able to work with someone who has
marks the level of expertise, reputation, and pedigree, And BOYD does that

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hit it on the hendout. Heis. He is the man. And
I say congratulations to Mark Miller.Tried to get him on the show,
but he is, believe it ornot. Basketball. Yeah, that's not
going to shock anybody when he said, look, Mike, I'm actually at
an AAU event will be watching thegame at that time, So I'm so
sorry. But he look, he'sgot nothing but love and respect for WIS

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Sports Dot and that he's been there. He's been a big part of it
for twenty years, and they're notas big as they are without him,
I don't think. So it depends, you know, Travis and those guys
are gonna have to fill a BillJoy uh and and Mark Miller is the
man, and Mark's got a Mark'sgot a beat on on communities and an
understanding of kids probably before they're evenyou know, to the high school level.

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A lot of times, correct ofwho's going to be good and great
for that matter. Yeah, he'she's ahead of the game. And also
that w By shootout, Holy cow. I did not expect that to be
such a cool event that, Likethe early games were great too, But
by the time it's turned to six, seven, eight, nine, ten
o'clock, I was like, Wow, this is this is great. Billy
Schmid and you guys, you maybe I think you were a little punch

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drunk by the end. At leastBilly was. He was that's a lot
of games to call, not thatyou called all of them, but over
in two days is a lot,especially in that atmosphere and the kind of
level we're at. The other theother quote from from Jared Nelson, he
said, nobody's been doing high schoolbasketball covers in Wisconsin better or for longer

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than Mark, and we're thrilled toadd him to our team. That's that's
getting a Hall of Famer to comeover to your organization, and I think
I commend them. You know,Wisconsin Prep Networks has made I think the
higher of a decade to get MarkMiller to come and be your guy and

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to be the lead scout of prephoops in Wisconsin. A great fit and
for them to get him to comeover, I think I congratulate Mark for
making the move, and I congratulatethem for going after the best guy in
the state of Wisconsin. I'm gladMark was. I mean, how long
has he been doing that? TwentyWell he'd been doing that with Boots for

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twenty years, so even before that, he was a part of the community.
And well, you're standing up basketball. Understand that. When he publishes
his next year book, it's fortiethedition. So he's been doing this.
He was inducted in the Wisconsin BasketballCoaches Hall of Fame in twenty fourteen.
I'm glad he has been able tosee and all of this for that matter,

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but him up close has been ableto see Wisconsin high school basketball grow
to the level it has. Inever thought there would be as a high
schooler that graduated in two thousand andeight from Franklin, I never thought there'd
be as many Division one men's basketballplayers coming out of the state, not
only just the Milwaukee area, butstatewide. Lacrosse. Osh gosh, I'm
glad Mark out to see it all. And you know, he's out on

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the forefront and he gets to seesome great basketball and that Wby Shootout is
a great, a great thing.If you have never been to it over
at Concordia, they do a phenomenaljob. Get there early if you can.
Yeah, and you know, broughtto you and presented by the Majurra's
Family Foundation, which has been agreat addition to the Wby Shootout. What

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people might not understand is the amountof scholarship money that the Majuror's Family Foundation
gives Ruth the Wby Shootout. I'veI've been a spectator, I've called games
and have been a coach at thatevent. And you're right, there's nothing
better. There's nothing better. Hegets what he perceives as some of the
best team's best players in the stateto go against teams that they never get

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to play against each other because it'ssomebody from lacrosse that gets somebody from racine
type stuff, and it's just awesomeand it preps those teams that, let's
be honest, we watch Wisconsin Lutheranthere, they won the state title.
Thomas Moore was there, they wonthe state title. It preps those teams
for going and playing a tournament typegame and for a school like Oshkosh coming

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to a new city. I mean, they could bust that hour in ten
minutes, but I would take thatas the opportunity to prep for going to
Madison one hundred percent. And theyplay a college court and and and I
thank Sean Cassidy and the group atConcordia. You know what, they do
a great job of hosting and workingwith Mark Miller. And so you guys
that that see that Mark Miller ismoving on, don't worry about it.

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That your book is going to stillbe published and the wby shootouts still going
to happen. And I congratulate MarkMiller for sure, and I congratulate the
people over at PREP Network for forhiring Mark Miller. You're going out to
trap shoot this afternoon, be rightthere. Yeah, yeah, you know
what, We're going to try it, you and me both man, we'll
go give it a shot. Andrew, thank you so much for your work

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