Sitdown w/ Big Rich and his Wife

Fillmoe Mike of 106.1 KMEL recently sat down with Big Rich and his Wife Danielle on this latest installment of the Wash Ya Back podcast.
Producer/Supervising editor of this episode is Christian Montoya
Media provided by Duarte Productions and E. McGee Photography

Episode Transcript

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Hey, Man, we here,Man, We back for another installment of
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We got a very special guest inthe billing special for more reasons than one.
I've been knowing this man since Iwas five. First minute, when
I was five years old, bigshots. I just told him about that
in the car. I was like, I've been knowing Mike since I was
six years exactly. Man, Soshout out the Big Rich and we got
his wife and the billy Yeah missDeann Yelle. Okay, let me know

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man, cause you know a lotof times people come inside and everybody want
to interview Big Rich. But youknow, it's a team, you know
what I'm saying, teamwork, makethe dream work. You feel me?
So you know every time people comehere, she been here before. Yeah,
she knows real. You know,you just got it. You just
gotta wash your back, you know, what I'm saying. Man. You
know, I didn't realize man tillyou until you started saying it a while

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ago. I was I didn't realizea lot of people do not watch state
back, bro. So you know, it's very important. I learned that
as a youngster because I definitely probablywhen we met, I probably wasn't watching
my back yup. And then Iwas like, man, like I got
like eight nine, after we shootinghoops all day, start watching my damn
back straight up. So I'm gladyou know you watch your back day,
you watch your back as it's mandatorythat we asked that question. Absolutely absolutely.

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What's up, rich Man? What'sup? Man? Been good?
Yeah, call me Michael, MichaelFontello exactly. Mannah, We've been good,
bro, just grinding, just justestablishing division that we've been that we've
been pursuing for about a decade now, and it's starting to come together pretty
good. So we're happy. Wereblessed, you know. I had I
was here with Troy, yeah,and I asked him like, okay,

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cuz I remember Project level Yeah,and it kind of like morphed into ten
fifteen, but it's not the same. Yeah, So it helped waye YouTube.
They hop up in here. Man, you don't be scared. I
mean, yeah, no, soI know you're not scared. Excuse me,
I'm not scared. But yeah,I'm normally the quiet one. So
yeah, Project Level started as ayouth organization. It still is and it's

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still going. It's still going.No, no year twelve, you're twelve,
and twenty four and twenty four.Okay, you're twelve, beautiful,
We're doing well, got great partnerships. But we discovered that, like you
know, as people were growing andthey were going down their own path,
it was like they still needed help, and it was like, okay,

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we can help you, but itwould have to be something separate from Project
Level. And plus they like ageout, so they're not technically in our
program anymore. And so we werelike, let's just build ten fifteen.
Because we always had some format oflike a collective where we always support people
if it was like through marketing orwhatever. So it's like we gonna start
our management group, got you,and you just decided to make make a

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separate entity. So the Project Levelkind of like you kind of like you
build budding artists and creators exactly,actors artists and then from there you take
them to ten fifteen and then youjust push them and promote them as a
management team. Yeah. Yeah,it's like project levels, like the incubator,

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you know what I'm saying where wewere, They're able to go through
all of the and it's a lotof resources at project level, right,
so the support system is there andthe nurturing for the artists and stuff is
there, and they can take theirtime or they can you know, speed
it up or whoever whatever speed thatthey won't and then once they get to
ten fifteen, it's like they alreadytrain their season. They understand they're able

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to like kind of create a littlebuzz for themselves through project level during that
time. So by the time youknow they're ready, then we kind of
already know it's good. So Ithink that's probably what helps our success with
a lot of them, like Jazmine, you know what I mean, Like
she was she she had over onehundred k followers and stuff, and she
was able to build a lot ofthat during her time at profit level.
So then now like she just droppedthe campaign with with Puma and Finci took

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me yesterday. Yeah, I thinkor the other day. So, yeah,
we're doing it for she, beendoing it for she first. Yeah,
yeah, she's like our first realsuccess. Seen that you gave it
up to her, right, itwas basically like, man if it wasn't
for you, Yeah, yeah,you kind of like kicked the door down,
and like you guys are serious,absolutely, because because really her and

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Bianca our middle child, and BBwith BB was all so it was like
it was expected in some ways becausewe was gonna put a lot of effort
and resources behind it. But likeJasmine was like the first that wasn't our
actual child or wasn't directly in ourfamily like that to really take off.
And that's kind of been a catalystof what we're doing, you know.
Okay, okay, so you gotin the uh I see you got in

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a fashion bro. Yeah yeah,yeah, yeah, definitely definitely bro the
whole. You know. I thinkI think we try to we try to
like build this this ecosystem, rightlike as far as like industry within the
industry right like to especially when wetook on like creators and different people outside
of music, it was kind ofa new challenge for us. So I
feel, you know, doing theturn on that fan real quick. Oh

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yeah, it's a little how tofit it get hot. But we was
you know, when we tackled thatother world we started. You know,
they was getting booked for different kindof fashion events and different things like that.
And you know, we're from Fillmostso we alwaysknew how to dress,
you know what I mean. Andso it's like we always we was always
in tune with it, but wewanted to start a brand that matched what
we were actually doing. Right.So it's like, if people are really

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buying into what we're doing at tenfifteen and project level and building businesses and
stuff, they are junior moguls ormoguls and training and it just fit.
It just made sense. So itwasn't like we didn't want to jump off
the cliff and just do something totallydifferent. Everything kind of coincide with each
other, and I think that helpswith the success as well, you know
what I'm saying, because it allrelates, you know what I mean.
So it makes sense. So y'allkilling the game cause it's like you got

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the uh I mean, you commentedon my comment, I forgot to wear
the sweater, but I can't bewearing that was hard. That was hard.
I looked up. I was okay, okay, he had the ambitious
sweater exact one. Y'all got Puma, Yeah you got the Nike. We
did the Nike. Yeah we didbring Pumas. No, I got you
though, I got you. Igot But now that that's been a blessing

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too. We ended up doing thesituation with Shoe Palace where we kind of
take over creative direction in this region, you know what I'm saying. And
oh wow, yeah, yeah,they gave they gave us that, and
so we you know, our firstcampaign, well we did. We did
a bunch of stuff with him,and we of course with Project Level we
do big shoe give backs every yearwith them and stuff like that. Already
and the relationship with John and Elijahand everybody else I had been going back

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since the Rapper days. But oncewe started Project Level, they saw they
saw a way to really get involvedto help us with that. And then
that when once they saw that,they saw how creative the team was,
and then they started giving us littleopportunities to show our stuff. And Jordan
didn't done some campaigns with him.We had some of our former you know,
our former talent had did some stuffwith them, and then the Nike
one was like, Yo, wegot twenty three hours to turn this around,

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so we had to shoot it,do the whole treatment, get all
everything together. That's why it waseven there's a lot of people that's mad
too. I get some crazy dms, but we didn't have enough time.
No, like, no, no, no, this is crazy, you
know what I'm saying. And I'mlike, first of all, you know,
like even the song, I'm like, it's my song, you know,
I'm want to put my song inthere. And then all but it

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was really you know, because thisis the world premiere. We never get
a chance to talk about it.But we didn't have time for clearances and
all that. You know what I'msaying, Like if we want to go
you know, split it up andget some forty songs, and we have
to go through all kind of legalstuff. We had twenty three hours to
flip that. Wow, and itturned out to be an epic. We
sold out Nike dot Com and ina couple of hours, like the shoes
was gone, you know what Imean. So it was a good look.

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So it seemed like like you're aconductor of like you connect the dots
yeah, like they see it.They're like, man, let's have a
big rich to and they'll to doit. Yeah, ten fifteen. I
think we always talk about that asfar as like visionary stuff and just different
things and just thirty years of doingthis since we was kids, right like,
since I was a youngster, Ialways like just paid attention to that.

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And then Danielle's is the architect.She's the one that none of this
will like even matter. All myideas and shit and can I cut I
don't even know. All my ideaswouldn't even matter if she wasn't able to
put them together and compose them intowhat we create. Right, So I
think a lot, she thinks alot, but then she's able to put
the stuff together. So I callher the architect. Do you know it's
crazy? I'll be sitting in into wash it back podcast, y'all want

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to sponsor us up and you know, whatever you want to do. We
sponsored people and all that good stuff. We got commercials cracking. We're gonna
get it cracking. Shot to myguy Christian. But listen, yes,
sir, you see how big Richanswered that question. I don't even have
to ask the told I was gonnabe like man, so he already got
into it. Man. So he'sa very well seasoned veteran. Definitely bro

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one thing. Big Rich, I'mgonna get into some funny stuff real quick.
Big Rich was one of the firstrappers in the Bay with with a
Chain A guy A guy. Yeah. Yeah, Yeah. It was like
we had to make a statement.I feel I feel like even that even
at that time, I'll be tellingthe artists now, like that was even

(09:13):
strategic, right, Like I feellike it was we coming we we like
a lot of people, you know, and especially at that time, and
you you was done deal with us, so coming out of the Dune deal
situation, and and it was likeyou want to show yeah, and it's
real had to be something, rightbecause it's like YB and Quinn and the
whole team was already they was alreadyestablished. And then coming out me and
Chuck doing the whole street Cred movementand then having That's the Business on MTV.

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It kind of came out of leftfield in a way. So a
lot of people like, Okay,he but where do he come from?
You know, like you knew andpeople here knew, but everybody else didn't
know. So it was mandatory thatwe had to make a statement. Like
I'm like, we can't just goget you know, jewelry is a part
of our culture too, but I'mlike, we got to go get something
big. So so Alex over there, you know how I went up cool

(09:58):
Alex over at Exotic. Some shoutout to Alex. I heard he down
in Texas. Now, I haven'tseen him in like a decade, but
he put it together. Man.Still that's eighteen years old. Man,
this chain has grown crazy. Putit in the camera right there. Let
him see straight up. Man.From what Laurn said, from the struggle
to the bubble man, you knowwhat I love about your though for real?

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When Kayla is here. Yeah,and I know it's not like a
female or male thing. So whenKayla was here, you came you as
a representation, you feel me.Just talk about that, just being in
this game not having a lot oflike in the bay, it's not a
lot of female managers. It's alot of female bosses, but not a
lot of managers. And just talkabout that. And as far as your

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role with Kayla and any other artists, you got a special connection with besides
your brother and stuff, right,yeah. So yeah, I'm Kayla's lead
manager, got you. So sheprefers to have an all female team like
that is her support. Like ofcourse it's rich in GVO too, like
we were doing this together, butyou know, like when we hitting the

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road and all that, she justyou know, she's a woman and she
needs she needs that energy from anotherwoman. So it's like that's what I
like bring to the table. Andso it's you know, it's been amazing
working with her, like getting toknow her. You know, she started
off in project level too, wow, Like yeah, she her first ever
performance was in project level, Sothat's how our relationship began. And just

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you know, watching her grow andthen just knowing her as a woman.
You know what I'm saying now asthe kid as a woman is just a
fascinating like process and journey and soyeah, but like but being a female
boss, a female manager, it'sit's great. I mean I love it.
It's a little hard though, becauseyou know the Bay is so like

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pimpish, right, like it's theit's that like it's the pemp culture.
Yeah. So it's like some menwill not speak to me, but I'm
like I really don't care, Likeyou know, like I came to do
business, like I get it,Like it's a respecting on one level,
but on some other levels, there'salso a disrespect thing on the other level,
because like I ain't finna deal withthis woman who was like where a

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dude that, Like you know whatI'm saying, Like it was the person
we gonna remain nameless, but hekind of did that to her recently.
And you know, I like toplay off of that though, because I
know how important Danielle is to towhat we created, and I like to
play off of that. So Iliterally, if he think he's going to
have to go around her, ifhe think he can go around her to
get to me, I just ourghost dude, that type of stuff,

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right, because we're gonna conduct businessthe proper way, you know what I'm
saying. It's us, We're theduo, right, Like it's it's our
tandem that really brings everything together.So some artists like I'm fronts like the
like the number one seed or I'mnumber two, But it's cool because that's
how we do it. So likeyou know, I'm also on Nef's team,
Taliban's team a few Yeah, heis tell nef that his beat.

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He could peak pick beach stuff hereright now. He's we always knew he
was good, but like being ableto work with him over this past year
or so, like just seeing howhe work in the studios is amazing and
entirely is like a young pheno Talibandis Like he's just cracking the surface on
what he's finna, do you knowwhat I'm saying? Like, and I

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think it shows ten thousand followers yetright like but like but like but like
his buzz like IM crazyzy everybody's playinghis music. It's like his streams is
crazy. But he only got sixthousand followers. So when when the numbers
start matching, it's gonna be agood look, you know what I mean.
So we're excited about Tyler real quick. So everybody know Big Rich is

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a rapper, Big Rich productor pb R p R Big Rich Productions.
But being in his corner did thatkind of help you and prep you to
be kind of like a role managerand a manager? Yeah no, because
when I met Rich, like ofcourse we were just dating like that was
it. And I remember, yeah, you know, like I had I

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had aspirations to be an artist.Okay, you know, let me know,
but I'm not going to so we'renot gonna do that right now.
You could do wash your back jingle, but no. So you know,
like I was just there. Iwanted to be a support, you know,

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to him, and I just like, okay, so what are we
doing? Like I'm just excited.I get excited about stuff. So when
he brought me in for like thefirst meeting, I'm like, I made
binders for everybody, and I wasjust like I just wanted to help.
I didn't want to do anything butjust be a support to my man.
But then it was just like Iwas a part of his every day.
So at that point, I'm like, okay, I'm just stepping in the
roles. I'm like, okay,we need to do this, we need

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to do that. That's when Ilearned the game and I learned it from
him, and then I just Iwas reading books and stuff like I was
trying to get all the knowledge Ican because I'm like I want to see
him be successful, whatever it takes. I'm going to be that. So
yeah, like always being by hisside, like he's taught me so much.
And then he's like my biggest supporter. He's my biggest cheerleader, Like
he's like beautiful to me. He'slike step to the front, be seen,

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be heard, you need to dolike stand on business. So he's
been really pushing it, and Ilike really appreciate how he's always helped me
down and not make me like hissecretary or you got to stay at home
because you don't belong here, LikeI was the only one on the road
road like you know, all theother ship that was happening, like lip
sealed. I learned how to dothis like stay in my lane. But

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I was also like a support toa lot of people. So that's and
that's very commendable, bro, becausein our community in Filmo, like she
said earlier, it's a pimp culture. But to see y'all doing y'all thing,
and I wanted to get both ofy'all on here for that said yeah
yeah, I was like I onlyget both y'all because your guys are a
power cuple. It's like nobody likeyou guys, damn near no right,

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And I think that needs to berecognized. And also for you champion,
your wife, your female you're anexample you know you younger think it's cool
to play females. As you getolder, it's like it's real life man
talk. I remember, I rememberwhen we first when we first got together,
like she was like coming with meout the gates, so like I
remember she was talking about the meetingthat we had at Cotch in New York

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that she shot the d She wasn'teven supposed to be in the room,
and she came in the room andthen meet me and Chuck was meeting with
their team D and Shadow and AlanGrumblack. And then she said she was
trying to figure out the marketing planand then she had a whole plan set
up and we were struggling with becausewe were trying to get more money out
of them for the marketing. Andthen she she blurted out something and then

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Alan stopped the meeting, like Ilike, I still don't even remember what
the hell you said, but itwas something that made him execute the budget
immediately. Like the meeting was over. It was like let's go, it's
good. And I was like,okay, yeah, like you know,
I knew I knew that. Buteven before that, I remember I used
to just I go, you know, film, I rolle through film.
Mike gonna say names and stuff likethat. But but but cats used to

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be like, bro, what youdoing? Like why you always got this
new chick around? Like who?Like what are you? Like? What
are you doing? I'm like,bro, watch bro, this ain't just
a relationship, you know what I'msaying. I used to say that,
and Chuck could be I think Chuckis probably the earliest witness to that,
because we like he understood. Helike, okay, he he didn't like
it because you know, we we'refrom film Moen and that wifey shit is
you know what I mean? Likeyou know what I mean, So they

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ain't understand. But he he waslike okay, he trusted it, and
he allowed it and and and itworked out. But we had this meeting.
I remember we went the You andthat Booty video shoot for forty.
Yeah, I was down there andshe flew in and then we just had
a meeting and I was just like, just I want you around it just
be around. And at that timethat was like with the Heiphe movement at
this height and this is the iconof the hyphee movement, I felt like

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this is exposing there to this tothis environment would be like great learning,
right, and then we sat downand we talked, and this is when
she still wanted to pursue singing,And I'm like, you ready for this
stoke? Like this is a youknow what I mean? Like I always
say, I don't want to saythe word on publicly, but I use
a terminology about being an artist.You gotta really be ready to go out
there and show out on a levelthat in some way it can be it

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could be degrading in some ways onwhat they put us artists through, you
know what I mean, Like howyou got a freestyle on, like if
you look at it, like mebeing a CEO and a boss and and
having my paper up and stuff,like some of the stuff I had to
do to get here is crazy,you know what I'm saying, Like some
of the Shambo type shit. Youknow what I'm saying. And I'm asking
her like is you ready for that? Because it's gonna be grueling, you

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know what I mean? And thenwe talked. We had a long talk
that night, and then I waslike, look, if you if you
help me, I promise in returnnumber one, I'm not gonna quit.
I'm gonna keep doing this shit.You ain't gonna waste your time with me.
But then also we're gonna we're gonnasplit this shit down the middle.
We're gonna do it together. Solike the plan was set from day one,
So so eighteen years later to seeit really, you know, comeing
to fruition. It's crazy, youknow what I'm saying, Because it don't

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always work out like that, youknow what I mean? So that's really
real. So yeah, what doesa mogul mean to you? Mogo?
Mogo is a lifestyle. Mogo islike motivation. I feel like everybody,
you know, entrepreneurship in the lastyou know, ten years has became trendy.
It was it wasn't something that peoplecared about before, but now it's
a trend. And I feel likemogul is like that that that epitome that

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a hustler wants to get to,right, Like I feel it's like instead
of just being like, okay,I'm a hustler because now shit is in
reverse. We use drug dealers inour era and then now the rappers is
drug users right right, So youknow what I'm saying. So when you
look at that, it's like I'malways want to set the ball higher,
not lower. We're not going backwards, We're going forward. And I feel
like Mogo is the epitome of everyhustler, Like were gonna monopolize and enterprise

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and get this shit going. Andthis it's an elite level. It's not
just anybody can't attain that. Yougot to really work your ass off and
really make smart moves mentally and physicallyand spiritually too. It's a lot you
know what I mean, because CEOsdon't go to heaven. Man, we
gotta make we got to make justtough decisions out here that affect a lot
of people. You know what I'msaying, going to heaven? No,

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but you get what I'm saying,you know what I mean. Like it's
hard. It's hard. It's ahard job. So struggling with that,
but Mogul is just the elite levelof this lifestyle and and really taking you
know, taking it on your shouldersand taking care of your family, your
team and everybody and getting you tothat stature. So shoot for the top.
Bro. Is it is it easierbeing a rapper or a business?

(20:27):
Uh? Is it easier to justdo you and control yourself? Or is
it is it more pressure to kindof because you got No, it's ahead
ache. It's a headache. It'sa selfless job, you know what I'm
saying. But I think what welove though about it, and I let
her tell her side of that.But like I always say, I try
to I try to give artists whatI wanted, right, Like like like

(20:49):
Chuck, Chuck really like set theball high for us at Dune Deal,
you know what I'm saying, Likeit was like we we we didn't even
realize what you had all and itwas like and you know, it was
funny, and I did because Iused to stay with him, but I
still didn't understand until I became inhis position, right, I'd be like,
yo, d really had to setup with stuff that the average people
around us didn't have, Like youknow what I mean. Like we moved

(21:11):
like a like a major label atthat time when I ain't even understand what
a major label was, so movinginto into what we do in at ten
fifteen, the project level was likeeverything that I lacked or everything that I
wanted or everything that I actually received. I want that for our artists and
we start there and then we trimfrom there or we go up, you
know what I mean, It alldepends, but we start at figuring out
what they need and what they wantand then that that that transferent. Like

(21:36):
I think one thing they say likeyou can go to ten fifteen and you
kind of like they know how tobuild you into a star in a way,
right, and that package. AndI learned that young. I learned
that through Done Deal and Chuck andeverything, Quinn and everybody how to be
a star. So we like toimplement that into our crew, you know
what I'm saying. So what showreason? I love helping people? Like

(21:57):
it's me, you know, likeI'm just naturally a giver, a nurturer,
and it's so hard to just bejust a manager, Like I can't
be. Yeah, it's like you'reyou're you work with people and they're human
like like artists, actors, models, they're humans at the end of the
day, and they have to puton their cape their masks to get on

(22:18):
the stage and do what they haveto do. But they are still going
through a lot of stuff, andI'm like, how do we get the
best out of people? Right?And so like I always try to take
the motherly approach. I'm definitely momto everybody too, you know, what
I'm saying. So I try totake that nurturing approach because like, first
off, we're dealing with people whocome from like backgrounds that have, like

(22:38):
you know, we faced a lotof trauma, especially coming from our community.
So it's important to make sure thatwe're improving our inner our inner workings,
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
It's it's tough because I know I'mgonna get up every day. So
when you ask Rich, like,you know, is it easier to be
the artist or the manager, it'slike for him in one sense, it's

(23:00):
like he knew he was gonna getup for himself every day. Right,
So when you're dealing with somebody else, you're like, Okay, I hope
they show up. I hope theydo their part. And then when they
don't, you got a troubleshoot.And so like we're constantly troubleshooting, we're
constantly figuring out how do we improveon the design? Right, seeing what
she just said, it can't becookie cutter because everybody, everybody's like different

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and they've been there in different places, right, And it's like that's what
I love about ten fifteen it's likewe give them more than just management.
Beautiful. That's sick, right right, because I was needed not real talk,
like and what she said that figuringit out part, like we still
we still figuring things out every day. You know what I'm saying that I
think I did a post a coupleof weeks ago, and then thisler just
reposted it, and a few peopleblasted me because they were talking about like

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Rich's advice is to tell artists tofigure it out, right, and like
they felt like that was harsh,and I understood where they was coming from,
But the context of what I wassaying was, even if I give
you everything, if you don't figureit out and what you want for yourself,
no matter what the hell I tellyou, it don't matter what I
produce for you, It don't matterwho I introduce you to, you ain't
gonna be able to do nothing withit, you know what I'm saying,

(24:07):
Because you still got to figure outwhat you're trying to do. But even
more than that, though, too, is like if you are dependent and
relying on everyone to get this donefor you, bro, good luck,
because people gonna you know, peoplegot their lives, people got everything,
Like We spent a lot of ourpersonal money to build up to where we're
at right now. You know whatI'm saying. You know we were going
as a hustler. We're gonna foreverbe in the red because we always reinvested,

(24:30):
We always put it back in.We This ain't no cash grab for
So that's why it's very important tofigure it out. And when you do
business with somebody, you need tobe aligned and seasoned, right, so
you can understand what they expected youand what you should expect to yourself.
So it's a lot, man,a lot of game. Want to watch
your back podcast film mic and thisthing. One thing I can say about

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you, Rich that you've always alwaysbeen a leader, right right, always
been a leader, man, Ikeep it real, like like he said,
we go back to the Dune Dealdays. But even before then,
Rich was he's a hooper. Two. By the ways that Quarner three,
I'm lying. I mean, I'mtrying to tell my youngsters, I used

(25:14):
to have a little corner three.Nah for real, Rich was the best
basketball player back in the day inour school. Real talk started to want
mister Wong, mister Wong loves you. Yeah, yeah, yes, telling
me back in the day, Like, man, what's what Big Rich up
to? Right right? I lovesyeah for real for real. But he's
always been a leader. When wewas going back on the dun Deal days,

(25:37):
like ok it was done deal andthen Rich had his little he had
he had three story, he hadhis thing cracking for real for real.
Uh, he just always been aleader. But I said that to say
this when you were just talking aboutyou just got to figure it out.
It's like the wash your Back podcast, bro. Like literally, like you

(25:59):
know what I'm saying, People likeyou should do a podcast, and you
say to yourself, Okay, I'mgonna do it. But then when you
don't do it, you'll never figureit out. Never you feel that slowly
but surely you'll figure it out.You just kind of like your game and
ship. Yeah, no real talk. And I think sometimes when when when
the hardships come, people kind oflike you know, they get they get

(26:21):
disenchanted. I'm like, that's whenyou learn you gotta you gotta really if
you really dedicate yourself to this shipyou got like those those l's you only
learn from l only you don't learnfrom the winds, bro. Like the
wins is just it's you just forget. You're like, all right, I'm
winning, We're doing cool, andyou you kind of start preparing for your
l right, because that's the onlyyou should be, because that's the only
time you can really adjust and belike, oh, yeah, I did

(26:42):
that wrong or this didn't happen,or you know, and and and that's
what the figuring out process is.And I think that sometimes it be this
this fairy tale type of feeling,especially for young artists, like this ship
look like a movie and people makeit look real easy on Instagram. Like
Instagram is the gift for the curseof that, right, Like it's like
the access us that you have toeveryone is crazy because it's like information overload.

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But when you got to really goout there in real life and figure
this shit out, it's a wholedifferent thing. So yeah, you got,
you got. You gotta go throughthe struggle. And I embraced that.
I love I love the hardships becausewe're gonna we're gonna learn from it
and get better from that ship.Right, you know what I'm saying?
Who picked? Who picked? TheSan Francisco Beat? All right? So
yeah, so it was funny too, because Queen Quinn for a while.

(27:26):
We used to like we used tofight over it because Quinn is the bigger
name. So the song went toQuinn in a way, you know what
I mean, like just by justby because of fandom. But in reality,
know Tracks had sent me the beat. We had we did a record,
I think me and Balance was workingon our group album. You know
they can't Go song. We dida group album and stuff, and then

(27:47):
Tracks did a beat on there andwe had a session with them, and
after that it was it was crazy, like first of all, RP the
Tracks love, I love my brother, like for real, for I've just
seen when you had the thing allyeah about fat That shit touched me just
because Tracks is great dude, andI'm gonna double down on that. But
we had did a session and hemade this beat. He made to be

(28:07):
fast, but I wrote my verseeven faster, and so like like we
bonded over that. He was likeyou already done him like I'm done,
Like let me get in the boothand I went first on the song and
then he was like bro, likeyou dope. Bro. He didn't you
know, he heard that's the businessand stuff, but he was just like,
now you can really rap her.I'm like, man, I just
be winging this shit. Bro.I'm not no rapper, you know what
I mean. But but so wehit it off on that and then one

(28:29):
day he was playing around with thatbeat and he sent it to me.
It was really it was like askeleton when he first sent it and me
and Cannon. Cannon is out thereright now, my little bro. We
heard it. We played it atthe house and I was like, I
don't know, man. I waslike, what is this like, coming
after like Northern Cali and these gags, the records and stuff. I was.
I was completely like nine call.He was like, well, I
ain't sent it to coin and messyet. You fel me. I'm gonna

(28:52):
send it to you first. Ijust want you to mess with it.
And I'm like all right, cool. And then I sent it to Chuck
and Chuck was like, it's cool. This is type man rap on his
I'm like, I don't know,bro, I would not touch it for
like like two three months. Chuckdid give you that's of course. Of
course, of course, And Iwas like, nah, I was saying

(29:14):
all kind of all kind of negativeshit about it. At first. I
was I was I was like,this ship is soft. It's all kinds
of shit. I was like,Nah'm cool. And then it didn't have
Hella elements on it though. Tracksreally went in there and finished to be
year. So I sent it toChuck and he went and put Quinn and
Boo on. He put Quinn andBoo on there first, and then you
know, like they like, allright, nigga, they own it.
If you ain't, only we're gonnarun with this. I'm like, hell

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now, so on the intro,if you go back and listen, when
I'm like, I apologize or Isaid hello little things in the intro,
I'm talking to Chucking there because Iwas holding up the record, you know
what I'm saying. I was holdingup the records. So I was like,
I apologize, man, I knowit took hell a long. I
was saying in the vocals you canhear it. And then me and di
O just sitting in the studio Chuck. I don't know why. I was
just arguing with Chuck the other thathe claimed that he took me to.

(30:00):
He took me to a studio inSouth City to do the I said,
bro I specifically recorded that d eos but me and d O chilling at
the at the at the studio overthere on Caeson Child and I had to
force that verse out. It tookabout twenty thirty minutes. I forced it
out. I wanted it. Ikind of I was like, it's right,
and it was. It was perfectbecause I was like, if we're

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gonna do this, I wanted tobe a like an easy recitable verse,
you get what trying to say,so really like dumb down the flow.
And came with some like just someliners that people can chant and remember.
And it worked out. Bro knockedit out and then sent it back tracks.
Was super excited. He put thehe put ray on there to the
female that I was singing in thebackground, put it on it, sent
it back. We said we gaveit to Vaughn. Went from crazy.

(30:45):
It was like he played it oneday and then the next day it was
number one on the on the sixthdrive. Yeah, it went crazy,
Bro, it was just it washis own. It was on. But
we was having legal issues and stuffwith the record. Yeah, so we
didn't get that figured out. Wedropped the video about like six months after
that. But but it started righthere in this building though for sure,
and that's crazy. Crazy story.Uh quick story about Chuck. If you

(31:10):
didn't know, you know who gavehim the name street Cred? Who you
of course? Okay, see Ididn't know. I didn't know. I
just remember I remember when when whenwhen we shifted and I and I signed
over to him after the done dealthing, he was like, it's gonna
be street Cred street Cred music.I was like, that's hard. I
came up with that because he wastrying to do like a promo company.
Got it. Then I said,I said, how about we do street

(31:33):
Cred right for the street Team StreetTeam Yeah, And he was like,
blo, you know what I'm touse that? He called me. What
he was like, Bro, philmoI'm gonna ask you, bro, I
should have got I should because he'sstill street Cred to this day. To
this day, man, you mentionedthe name, uh you mentioned We're gonna

(31:55):
talk about Quinn first. I rememberyou told me back in the day you
really respected Messy Moore. Yeah,you tell me why because at the time
I was kind of like, heyou feel me? I liked mass Yeah.
I was like, now then youyou kind of opened my eyes to
him because like, nah, hetied tight bro, and he was authentic
to himself. You know, Iknow a lot of people criticized him about

(32:19):
being a blood and and but likehe was, he was ahead of the
curve on a lot of what brolike. He like nobody was blooding like
that. When he didn't he didn'tfollow a trend. That's why we was
held confused why he was a blood, Like what are you doing? Like?
Like, first of all, Ithink at that time Crips was dominating
everything. I'm like, if yougonna find something, but he just always
did it his way and and likethroughout all the stuff, I know he
had a lot of issues with Quinn, but he always will reach out to

(32:43):
me like a d M or somethinglike that and be like I always fuck
with you, Rich I love you. So we just had like a different
kinmanship. But I just liked howauthentic he was to himself, right and
and like like that that that bledover to his fan base. And that's
why you know, even to thisday, he's such a like high level
lef from our city because he wasauthentic to himself. Now, everybody probably

(33:04):
don't think it was you know,he was authentic to feel more to whatever
it was. But to what hebelieved in. He didn't give a fuck.
He did his stinging, He didhis stang. He didn't you know,
he took a lot of people backtalk about that go ahead, you
know, like he discovered a lotof talent, he put a lot of
position and then but he also healso knew when to disappear and do it
himself, and he never let anythingget in between that, you know what

(33:27):
I'm saying. So I just Ijust loved I loved how he didn't give
a fuck, he did what hefelt like he needed to know, because
it was like, you told mesomething. He was like, Man,
I think you really from a farright. I be like, man,
and I see how you used tomove right And I was like man like,
because mess always you telling me like, bro, you gotta kind of
fake it to you make it rightright, one hundred percent filming, you
gotta make So he sold that violuslike he knew, I swear it.

(33:50):
And I definitely think that's where weconnected as well, because it's like,
look, we're gonna be bigger thanlife type vibe, you know what I
mean, we want we want thatreal. I always gravity to artists like
that, like Rick Ross, andand with Jeezy and then was doing.
When I first heard them, I'mlike, this is what this is what
we own because at the end ofthe day, we have to this is
entertainment number one. But we livingin such like one of the most realist

(34:13):
regions, right like street politics inthe rap game is it coexists a lot.
It's so hard I can't even askask some questions from Tomas, you
know the politics exactly. It's it'sa lot of politics in the Bay Area,
especially with the rap ship and andwe were able, we were able
to stay away from that because that'swhy we started Three Stories. Like three
Story was A was a part ofFilm Mo's It's It's the It's the Bannicker

(34:35):
Homes and film mod but it wasa different faction. We we didn't we
didn't We're not we wasn't going.We was always affiliated with all the bros.
I'm film Mom out eight hundred ofcourse just by that's where I'm from.
But Three Story was A was awas an enterprise within these politics,
and we had we we did thatto kind of shield from all of the
bullshit. So it doesn't affect thebusiness of what we're doing. Because I

(34:57):
just seen it early. I sawit. It was you know, it
was the the D boy era whereall the d boys was the CEOs of
the record labels and all that typeof stuff. And I was thirteen the
ceo, and I wasn't a bigtime D boy. I was, you
know, I sold I so dopefor my family. I was like,
you know what I mean I was. I wasn't at that time. I'm
thirteen years old, real talk,no real talk. So I was like,
we gotta we got to establish somethingso we can survive through this,

(35:19):
through this terrain, in this environment, you know what I'm saying. So
that's what Three Story was, likea breakoff of the of the of the
main piece of film, and andI think that's kind of like been our
our secret sauce across the board,like we we we we we we affiliated,
We're here, we got the swag, we got all of that type
of stuff, but we're gonna startsomething different and we're gonna building project level
was different, and that like justjust like with Mess, like everybody was

(35:43):
like, man, what are youdoing? Why are you quitting rap?
To go get back to the kids, and we'll come volunteer for you.
Nigga, I don't know you knowwhat I mean. I'm like, Bro,
you think I'm find to you know, you think I'm gonna walk away
from this to go be broken.Just No, it was a plan.
It was a big It was abigger vision for you. You know what
I'm saying, So talk about beforewe get let me get you out of
here. Man. I no,no, no, it's just I'm on
live still and not just all thislike the longest response I've ever seen.

(36:07):
It's like a paragraph. Somebody justbroke. I'm gonna read it in a
minute. Bro tell us about uhQuincy Quincy brook Quinn Man, Quincy Brooks.
Man Quincy Brooks was like the bigbrother I never had, you know
what I'm saying, Like Quinn,I learned the good, the bad,
the ugly. I learned everything fromjust watching Quinn because it's like, you
know, it's like to be ableto work with like one of your idols

(36:29):
and then and then he's your brotherand like and it's it was crazy because
like literally though, like like literallymy idol. He wrote my first verse
I ever. He gave me aname. It was called dollar Bill.
I was nine years old. Hewrote my first verse. I used to
remember it. I don't know itno more. But he been there from
day one, So then it becomean iconic figure like he did. And
I really, I really begin hotwhen a lot of people be acting like

(36:51):
Quinn wouldn't him. But I'll beget into arguments like in twenty twenty three
about that. So just to dealwith him, like I've seen it all
like he was, he was ahe was a man. You see the
good with experience, good, thisgreat, the awesome, the bad,
ugly. He is the most transparenthuman being I've ever met, you know
what I mean. So that thatwas that was very important for a young

(37:12):
man like me because I'm able tosoak up everything, you know what I'm
saying. And then it was likeright before we all went solo, I
had became like his hype man.And I remember using hype man too,
so I think right before that Iwas doing I did like about twenty shows
with him, so it was gettingme ready, you know what I'm saying.
He allowed me to do that,and it was like that kinmanship.
And then when we did Savanthem together, it was kind of like a cool

(37:32):
thing because we had the MTV lookalready, right, So I was able
to help him get get that MTVlook and that meant a lot for me,
Like thank you for everything you've done. Now we got this record,
two mon ymbs behind it. We'refinna be you mean, you know what
I mean? And hell yeah andeverything else came with it, so it
was cool. It was about Bailey, Don Toreano and fully loaded. Man,

(37:57):
y'all had the streets going crazy.That's the foundation. That's where that's
where we learned how to do everythingthat we're doing today, you know what
I mean, Torianna with Vegan Mobeverything like, it's like we learned,
We learned the business, and wewas brothers bro. We was in the
studio eight nine ten, twelve hours, twelve four hours, fully loaded.

(38:19):
At first, we was full fledgedfirst of all. First of all,
we was probably like sixty other namesright, like three D. It was
all kind of shit. But westarted running with full fledged and then we
was all more. Me and Baileywas at Wash at the time, and
we had these full fledged flyers orwhatever, and it was a girl from
West Point that went to our schooland was like, nigga, your niggas

(38:39):
ain't full fledged. And we cameto find out that that was the name
of the West Point label. Sohow had big block It was full fledged
records. Okay, we can't usethat. We can't use that. So
we definitely just took the full andadded the fully and then fully loaded and
it was his own because it waslike, you know, we was definitely
on some lyrical warfare type shit,so it made sense. We were fully

(38:59):
loaded clip and we just spitting youknow what I mean. But yeah,
it was every It was everything.Man, that ship like to be to
be seventeen and you and you're walkingschool and you walking down the hallway and
then at this time radio and raheemship so niggas playing your tape. It
was tapes, no CDs, itwas tapes, and it was it was
a ship can be weak, butso fully loaded. This how I found

(39:22):
out about rich got My partner usedto talk to Bailey and so she had
a poster. Bailey didn't know shehad a poster in the room, and
I was like, who is hewith his gold ones? I was like,
all right, I was on him. I was on him. And
then little did I know, likeit literally like we like three years later

(39:44):
we ended up together if y'all don'tknow, man, he talked about fashion.
Rich is one of the flyest niggas. He always been fly. Thank
you excuse my French fly fat nigga. Man, Yes, this one thing.
He you know what, I wouldbe fat, but I was flying
too, Bro, I couldn't.I couldn't go out sad man. I

(40:06):
was Man, I was a bignigga since birth, so I had to
fashion it up. You know whatI meansarize it. But yeah, thank
you though, bro. Oh realquick, before you get you out of
here, tell us about you wentto Kansas City with Mac Drake. Yeah,
bro, Bro bless another another blessing. Shout out to Chuck, shout
out to Quinn. Real nigga shiton Quinn's side, because this is when

(40:28):
Quinn is coming off of explosive Wellwith mess Man. He's twenty years old,
a kid still, but he's likeone of the biggest rappers on the
West Coast. He's killing shit.And it was it was before our first
album was even done. We wasworking on Millennium Attitude at the time,
still in high school ship and theyused to try to book Quinn and like
Quinn was getting a lot of moneyat that time. It ain't a lot

(40:50):
now, but at that time itwas a lot of money. And Quinn
used to be like, now,don't pay me, just just fly fly
all my young niggas out there.So me, oh yeah. So all
of these shows that Quinn was,we did Denver, we did Kansas City,
we did Saint Louis, we didwe did all of these spots,
and Quinn was taking no money,what no money, just so we can
go. So that that's what I'msaying, like the good, the bad,

(41:12):
everything with crazy, Like he's areal nigga. He's a real man,
you know what I'm saying. Andlike so he used to he used
to take he used to he wastake no money or extreme pay cuts so
we can go. And then wego out there. You're not for real,
Like we went out there. Butthis one time we went to Kansas
City a lot. Kansas City waslike a second home for a minute.
But this one time we all gotbooked, dre, everybody got booked.

(41:32):
And then it was a heat waveout there. Okay, and and I
don't know what it what happened,but we had to spend like a whole
extra. Look, but I broughta weekend worth of clothes to Kansas City.
It was a heat wave. It'slike one hundred and ten every day.
I had to stretch a weekend worthof clothes for like ten days and
week and we camped out. Shoutsto my boy Pete Up and the whole

(41:53):
what was the name, it wasa It was a record level out there.
But they was like like they waslike the little cousins to Rich Factor.
You know, the fashion was hugeat the time, this before Tech
nine even really started taking off outthere, so Rich was like the big
dog out there. But this wasthis was a crew that was affiliated with
Okay, so they had this goodcoolio. The underdog set it all up.

(42:13):
So we went out there and butlike Dre, like we got to
really like bond, Like you knowwhat I'm saying, Like this before the
dreads is before all that. Thisis when rapper gone bad. It just
came out. So we just wasjust vibing with him full week. Amazing
person man like like it's like it'slike Dre, like you know they always
say the good die Young and allthese good things, like bro Dre was
the coolest nigga in the world,and he loved us but he fucked the

(42:36):
most. He really fucked with Torianotough. I guess it was on that
pimp and ship, you know whatI'm saying. But he really embraced and
took it under his wing in likethat whole ten days he had dip off
from all other niggas. There wasa lot of people out there, like
like JT was out there with usat that time, Chuck. He just
he'll be fucking with the young niggas. We'll just be catting off. You
feel me? Like it was great? Yeah, Dre was Dre was a
cat though. Yeah, we wascatting off and stuff out there, but

(42:59):
it was but Dre Dre was agood one. And then when I remember
he had a photo shoot, heinvited us all out to the photo shoot
he had did for Murder Dog andthat's what he announce stirs in t Okay.
So so you know, he waspopping pills and ship out there.
But we we didn't, you knowwhat I mean. But when we when
we met when him, we likeNigga with his dizz and he just started
doing the tea. He was likeNigga and he just you know, showed

(43:20):
us a handful and I'm like ohokay, I'm like, I'm like all
right, d I'm all right.And then and then we started seeing more
transformations, like we we did ashow with him and Nikkotina at in Pedalum
at the Phoenix Theater, oh Man, and then and then he started growing
the dreds at that time and hecame out and like he he started doing
the dance. He started, hestarted doing all this ship and we like,
bro, what what happened? Likeyou know what I mean? Like,

(43:43):
I swear to god, we wasn't. We went all the way bought
into it at first because we knewanother Drey, but he was like,
nah, nigga, that's that superstarship. Nigga. He was ahead of
his time. He was nigam gonnashow you niggas how to be a superstar.
And we like, that's real,and we just fell in love with
it, bro, And now itwas a he's a genius, right,
you know what I'm saying. Iswear to guy. I was watching True
TV and I was like that's whatI was. I was thinking, like

(44:04):
this nigga, Yeah, he's socaptive and he was like he was doing
this shit. But it was likeit was clear though it wasn't like Goofy,
it was like it was goofy,but it was a clear message.
It was so man. He wasso ahead of his time, and like
I remember, even down to theend, we were supposed the trip that
he did in Kansas City was abig Bay area trip. A lot of

(44:25):
Bay Area artists and stuff went,and we were supposed to go on that
trip, and we was excited.Were like Kansas City second home, you
know what I'm saying, Like weresuperjuiced. And then something happened with the
schedule and then Quinn couldn't go.So of course if Quinn wasn't going,
we wasn't going right. So wewas with him in the studio at sound
Waves over in West Oakland about aweek before the show, and he got
me and Toriana on a song.It was a This Nation you know how

(44:46):
he did the whole thissday They tookoff and did like thirty forty of them.
We was on the first one,me and Toriana was on This Nation
Volume one. So he came andgot us on that record and we chilled
and we just talked and caught upwith everything because at this time he's he
Mac dry he's taking. He's allthe way there. So we chopped it
up and we was like, we'llsee you in Kansas City. That was
the last thing we said to him, and we didn't make it, and

(45:07):
the crazy shit happened, you knowwhat I mean? That was d r
E. So man, we wrappingit up. Man, I just want
to thank you, man, thankyou Dave Yale for coming definitely for real,
for real, let him know thatyou're taking talent. So like real
quick, we wob to let yougo. Last question, who who could
who could say, Hey, man, I do this? Can anybody do

(45:30):
you have to be an artist?Rapper? You know what I'm saying.
Can you manage me? You knowwhat I'm saying. I'm gonna let her.
Can she Usually she usually do thatprocess position usually do that. But
but that's what like even when weleave in here, what we're doing tonight
at Providence with with with butt andmeals and of course g val he over
there though didn't want to come inthe room tonight, but we're gonna do

(45:51):
this industry night once a month,you know. And this is what we
grew up doing. This is whaty'all used to do in this station.
Used to do and all that typeof stuff. So we want to bring
that back, you know what Imean, and put the because we also
we also managed you know that's thebiggest DJs. You managed DJs y.
Yeah. So it's like we gotwe have like child to Butter Meals,
shell Hart, Drew Banga, Slimand DJ cloth Money like they they they

(46:15):
got the night life going crazy inOakland, right, So so we were
teaming up with them to to doan industry night and this is allowing all
of the d m s and thetext messages and that we haven't gotten back
to and didn't have time to forthem to come just probably with us in
person, you know what I mean, and like and even if they ain't
just talking directly to us, it'sjust gonna be people in the room there
and because because the yeah, nofor real. So if you want to

(46:36):
jump into how do we sign artists? First off, it's like we read
every DM, like on the tenfifteen page, we read it. We
go check the artists out like ifyou say a I do this, or
I'm a model, I'm a writer, I'm an actor, I'm a public
speaker, you know, like filmmakers, Like we're not opposed to working with

(46:58):
just a specific like just one youknow, one group. We're open to
everything because we like, talent istalent. If you have a gift and
you you just need some support,like that's what we're here for. And
I'm like, I always say,like it's our duty to like see who's
like, see what's talking about.But I'm gonna look at your page,
and if you have less than II'm not going to you can look anymore.

(47:22):
I mean like I'm gonna listen.If the song is not available right
there, then I'm done because howyou telling me you're an artist? But
I don't see it in the firstfirst couple of posts, especially with the
pin posts. So now you canput your top song there right or you
can put your top picture whatever itis that you do, like it should
be visible in the first six factand if I don't see no links in

(47:42):
the bio, if your page isprivate, you kind of lose your opportunity.
You better send me pictures or something. You gotta do something for me
to see it, right, youknow what I'm saying. You got to
it has to be visible and ithas to be obvious, Like don't make
me guess and it don't make mego look for your music like that's Toto
mu, because they're already you alreadygot my attention, and don't be tough

(48:02):
thinking and selling wolf tickets talking aboutyou hot, right. I go to
your YouTube and then you only gota less than a hundred views. People
have like a hundred thousand plus followers. But I go look and show comments,
comments and like saying adding up.Then I don't believe you, and
like we don't need to lie.I don't. You don't have to have
like thousands and thousands of followers.But if you got consistency, if you

(48:27):
if you're putting yourself out there andyou got the you got the package.
We're gonna talk to you. Wegonna at least listen or try to have
a conversation. We're not gonna takeeverybody, but well, we also are
open to like just giving advice,Like that's the project level, and that's
where we want to support people.We might not be on the same we
might not like add you to theroster, but we're down to like get
help you. Yeah, we giveyou advice, and then just being in

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it for so long, it's likeyou didn't seen every characteristic possible. It
seemed like, right, so weable to kind of like we can tell
out like it's some flaws here.That's not like we're not gonna judge you
because of those flaws, but itmight interfere with your progress, right,
and it's something that we can't investin because like the thing about us too
and even our lawyers is like madat us because we do this too much.

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But as a management company, weinvest in our artists a lot more.
There ain't like a lot of managersdon't invest what we invest, right,
it's not even just time and resourcesbut actual like monotimee money, you
know, finances and stuff. Solike to put our money behind you,
we really got to. That's different. So so yeah, we look at
it real, real many but we'restill here to help if you if you

(49:35):
got some traction, you got somethinggoing, you deserve that help in hand,
right, because you aren't that.But with artists like yo, it's
no excuse at this point. Youcan get popping out here. But we
got the internet. You know,we didn't have that, So you got
the internet, get popping, andthen you know, and then we can
do something you like. You likeit now or you liked it when you
was coming up when you had tokind of would I wouldn't trade our experiences
for nothing. I feel I feellike I feel like we learned. We

(49:57):
had to learn, like we waslike blind and we had to we have
to figure out the world. We'rein our vision, right, we have
to just get through it and figureit out. And and now it's like
now we know how to properly usethese tools that just didn't exist, right,
So it's great. It's great likegoing from having to figure it out.
So now you got this support andthis help, we can do some
crazy stuff. And then if youwant to give them a point of just
tell them to watch they back.It is very important as you do.

(50:23):
You can't be a mogul. Youcan't get on fifteen. We're not playing.
Watch your damn watch your back toback of your deck, the back
of your decapped. Shout the bigRich and Dad. Yeo man, thank
y'all for having I mean, thanky'all for being on this podcast. Thank
you for you know, rocking withyou. I love you, Riches,

(50:44):
thank you so much. Shout outto the twins too, Yes, sir
man, Like we're not just alittle Telly Max your tailoring and talent they
do, Bro, they are doingthat thing, and they growing up right
in front of our eyes and theyblossoming and developing, just like it's crazy

(51:04):
just watching in the club. Nowthey'll be with us, the real They
real good young ladies. They mind. They've been at college graduate statue.
They do. That's what they do. They think, that's what's up.
Thank you again, my brother,Thank my sister. Yes that was