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September 11, 2023 • 50 mins
On this Episode of The Wash Ya Back podcast Fillmoe Mike of 106.1 KMEL sits down with Black C of RBL Posse
Producer of this episode is Christian Montoya
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(00:00):
Hey man, welcome to another installmentof the Wash Your Back Podcast. I
don't know what number we on,but I know we lit to Now we
in the building. We got avery special and legendary guest. We got
Black Sea of Rbo Posse and theBilly All. What's up, Christy Man?
Oh you know man, living workand chilling man. So I gotta

(00:23):
start off the show. But Iasked you, did you wash your back
today? Of course every day everyday. Man. You know I work
out, so you know I gottawatch you gotta watch that back for the
show man. So man, I'mso happy you here. Man. And
like I said, you got alot of stuff. You got a lot
of stuff cooking, brother, yougot books, you on tour, you
got music. Let's start with thebread and butter. The music. So

(00:46):
you just dropped that album of theBlack Album a couple of months ago.
I've been checking it out. It'sa fire album, man, tell the
people about it. Man, it'syou know. I got a Larry June
featured on there, my boy jayWorthy, it got my boy Compton as
TG, my boy Dooby. UhMan. We gotta we got a lot

(01:07):
of hitters on. Of course,my boy c W the third you know
in hermonata, and uh, man, it's it's it's one of the ones
that's just you know, I justgot got that fire lit up under me,
man, and went in and justgot real creative. I had actually
had another album I was about toput out. It was a little mellow.
It was called heavy in it,and I put the brakes. I
put the brakes on that when realfast, man, and just went to

(01:30):
this black audum say I need somea little bit more up tempo, okay
and and something. You know what'sgoing on now? It was it was
mellow because I had a lot ofLarry June producers, and you know,
they give you that laid back vibe. And uh, I was just like,
now I gotta go back to thedrawing board and uh yeah. As
as black album as that one Ihad, I had to have something for
the summer. So you had theBlack Caesar, Black Season. I was
last before the Black album. Iwas in twenty twenty. Yeah, twenty

(01:55):
twenty, right. He was pushingthat. Now we got the Black album.
And that's one of the things Iwas telling you before we got this
conversation cracking that it seemed like youhave a direction for your albums, like
you just don't just put this song, when that song it just it'll it'll
it'll sound like a compilation. Nahnoah. It's always a theme or behind
my albums, you know, likegoing back to the Last Minute Standing,

(02:19):
it was everybody got swooped up frommy side, RBL side or however you
want to say, big block andall that. All that was going on.
So it was based around that.The second album was The City of
Gods that was more like third worldstuff I had on there based on the
City of God's movie. I triedto do the cover and the artwork like
that and had a bunch of differenttypes of beats and stuff that was a

(02:42):
little bit different than going on theseventies. Baby Yeah, had a lot
of soulful seventies samples and stuff likethat on it. Then the Still Ruthless
album, I tried to go backto that nineties era, so I went
did collabors with the forty be legits Sebo Messy More Nicotine Nicotine was on
mc queenn. Yeah, we dida video. So I tried to go

(03:05):
back to that that era, thatessence, you know, the nineties,
and then the Black Season album wasme just coming back, you know,
just really just Larry Larry June litthe flame up under me once again,
and I I just kind of like, man, let me do something that's
just based around where I'm at now, just just self titled pretty much.
You know, everybody called me BlackSeason as one of my aliases. So

(03:27):
I did an album based around that, and uh, now we have the
Black Album, you know, forreal. I mean, you don't have,
you don't have. I know you'renot tripping, but it was jay
Z The black You don't feel it, you don't, you're not tripping up.
I didn't think about it. Idid it. I swear to guy,
like, oh some real shit.I was thinking like, oh yeah,
jay Z had an album called Theblack Out. I didn't even think
even tripled it. I didn't eventhink about it. You say, Larry

(03:53):
June lit a fire up under you? What about his movement was it?
What did it like? What wasit a specific thing? Well, it
was him coming to get me.You know, I was semi retired.
I wasn't even really doing music fora couple of years. I think my
last album I came out in liketwo thousand twelve. Well, yeah,

(04:14):
and he came and got me probablytwo thousand nineteen or something like that,
two thousand, eighteen nineteen, likeuncle, I need you on the song
and I was like, man,I ain't even really rapping, and uh
we did meet me in Frisco anduh, once we did that, you
know, his fans everybody was justlike on the song. So that that
ignited me to just go back inand start working on some music. So

(04:35):
while I was working on some music, we ended up collabbing on What's Happening
and we did a song from myalbum which was supposed to be on his
album, Yeah Slapper and was supposedto be on his album, and I
ended up using it on mine,and then we ended up hooking up back
up again on Organic Work and that'sone of his biggest songs too. So
I mean from there, I've justbeen I just got bit with the bug

(04:55):
and been working. Yeah, that'scrazy, because you doing your work,
you do your It's a blessing tosee someone of your legendary status still rocking
with the youth, still doing shows, still cracking your whip. And I
was talking to Alias, uh aliasyour manager or one of your managers.

(05:16):
He was like bro, like yougot a trip bro like black Sea he
he o, g advent the gang, but he putting in work, more
work than a lot of new newcats. Like you on tour with Larry
Julie. You had your You didyour own little tour. Put your own
tour together, bro, Like,like tell me about that. I know
you must love before I know youlove perform, you don't, you know,

(05:43):
it's like you got to work overtime, especially when you get to
this age. Just like people thinkthat you you lost it or you ain't
got it, you know what Imean, Like you ain't got no swag,
you ain't rapping. They get tothink of you're rapping like you know,
Grandmaster flashing him or something. Butas long as you you know,
you're gonna evolve a loan as youpaying attention because I eat, sleep,
drink music. So you know,every day, even when I wasn't i
was semi retired, I'm always payingattention to what's going on. You know,

(06:05):
I was still sparring and a studioon beats, freestyle and playing with
stuff, but I just wasn't releasingno music. But uh, you know,
like I said, I just beenback. Just add it now it's
just like it's fun again, youknow. But I know, but that's
the thing. It seemed like youhaving hella fun, I am. It's

(06:26):
it's because I think like the Cityof Gods came out around the hi okay,
and then I was I was seeingyou was doing your thing, and
I know you was doing your numbers. But it seemed like now it's really
starting to stick where everything is startingto come together. Another thing i'd be
tripping off of, like you'll bedoing shows with like people be like uh

(06:50):
whoever, like ice Que. You'dbe doing shows with some of the biggest
hip hop artists on a fucking weeklybasis, you know. And I'm doing
there one of the only ones kindof working with a lot of Southern Cow.
We're getting booked in Southern Cow really, besides I could e forty or
two short. Yeah, A lotof guys from my air really don't get

(07:11):
booked too much from down there,you know, Selly Sale and maybe Spice
one. I see them. Webump here as a lot of shows,
but not too many of me beworking like that, you know what I
mean. And that's just me.I'll be out there, you know,
I just you gotta make yourself available. When they see you working, they
see you active, they're gonna reachout. But if you stagging it and
you in the house and you know, out of sight, out of mind,

(07:31):
you know what I mean, That'sjust what it is. I love
how you mix the new with thewith the old, and you kind of
like because I noticed you were onlike two you was on your tour like
I said, and the Larry Junetour, so you was just stretching your
way and making your way available.It's as much as you could. Can't

(07:53):
you speak to that and like yourwork ethic in your hustle, Yeah,
really, you know, it's justall about organization, you know. Like
I I booked some tours, butonce I've seen Larry dropped his tour dates,
I was like, Okay, I'mgonna I'm gonna jump on the West
coast side of the tour. Youknow. He kind of was like,
you can come on anytime, youknow, East Coast me and West whatever.
So I just kind of looked atI bought that West, like man,

(08:15):
I got to be able to tearthat West up. So I just
made sure I blocked out from theday he hit Vegas all the way down
coming back home, so you knowwhat I mean. And I just didn't
book nothing. I was. Iwas actually having offers. You know.
I hated to turn down that moneybecause I actually going on Larry June tour.
It cost me money, but it'sbenefits behind. You know, the

(08:35):
fans. He got the new generationwho you know who up on RBO.
Now I paid attention my streams,don't win up, my my followers and
everything. I went up on mysocial media, so I benefit that way.
So now when I released this newimproved, they're gonna be like,
you know, they're gonna be onit. I got. I gotta say
this because I heard from behind thescenes, uh stuff through alias. He

(08:58):
was telling me. He was like, yeah, you know, uh Filmo,
Larry June, Acxes. He alwaysasks Chris if he's gonna do is
rbill set right? And he saidna, na, No, We're just
gonna do the same. Yeah.Yeah, I'm just like bro as a
fan. I know, as afan, you see RB. You see
you it ain't like you ain't beena du bar Wait. Any time after

(09:20):
every show the youngsters coming, it'dbe crazy because it'd be you know,
older people and because Larry got anice versatile crowds. The diversity play is
crazy. But a lot of theyoungsters be like, man, I thought
you was gonna come on, doremind me or Bammerweed or Blue. I'd
be like, oh man, Icould, I should have did it.
You know, when I'm out takingphotos, I'd be surprised how many of
them it's actually up on it andbe want me to perform it. You

(09:43):
gotta do that. Oh man,I should have you got you? But
I was just more I didn't wantto ruin a surprise too. I just
liked it coming out on his set. Now, maybe if he would have
probably did maybe one song during hisset, it had been cool. But
I liked the surprise factor of mecoming out, people not knowing I'm there,
And if I come out and performedbefore him, it is going to
ruin a surprise to me coming outdoing the two songs I have with him,

(10:05):
you know what I mean. SoI just felt like those was they
made an impact, you know themtwo songs, organic work. You know,
me coming out on him, andI just love the crowd roaring like,
oh man, we didn't know Blackwas here, and then I hurt.
That's one of his best. Yeah, organic work is one of them.
One of his big, biggest songswas one of'em. That's a

(10:26):
testament to you, man, ofdid you I know I got you this?
Did you teach them? I know, Larry June's your nephew. You
you taught him them dance? Mosse. He do his own thing. He
got his little hood. I giveit to him at forty. I give
it to him at forty. Man. They came with their own little dance,
and it'll grow on you. Youstart liking it, like I like

(10:48):
his little like he yoking the whippers, you know, nephew, be gigging
though. I love it man.You know, man, I appreciate any
pay homage. Man. That's onething about him. He let everybody know.
Man. You know that flow everythingman. You know rbl man is
one of my you know, offtop man. I know I feel good?

(11:09):
Yeah, man, like I loveit? Yeah, I already know.
And then I wanted to ask you, did you see the fight last
night? Yeah? Yeah? Whatyou think? Man? What happened?
Man? And what's the crazy isSpence? I didn't really want't going for
any one of them. I didn'treally hand no dog in the fight I
would. I just knew more aboutSpence, so I was just I kind

(11:31):
of thought he was gonna run throughhim because I didn't know too much about
Crawford. But now I'm a fan. I ain't gonna line that's been there
throwing bricks around. Up. Hewas not play. He was throwing bricks
around. I'm like, man,now I'm a truth. I had to
go back and start watching highlights ofhis earlier fights. I'm like, man,
he's been beating him down like this, like it's been going on.

(11:54):
So I'm a big fan now man, And I don't to be honest,
I don't even want to see apart two. Man, I don't even
think it's work. May not beworking. Yeah, it wasn't even close
enough to be. Everybody like,man, they need to rematch him for
what it's like, he breaks offof him, dude, just real quick,
dude. Crawford was eating up Spence'spunches like he was just taking up

(12:16):
and Spence really couldn't get a punchoff because he trying to duck and hide
him and he's trying to do oneswing man. Spence was throwing everything he
had, the kitchen, sinking everythingat that Boy, he wasn't doing he
wasn't flinching. He was just andcoming in and encountering and just to be
on that level and the beat tolook so bad, it's like it was.
It was eye opening to me becauseman was a top fighter. I

(12:39):
know, crazy, I know,man, but that's what what happened with
a lot of them fighters. That'swhy they be ducking each other and fighting.
He's going for that money because theyknow if they fight each other is
you know, the truth don't comeout. It's gonna be ugly. It's
gonna be ugly, man. Youknow a lot of people do that now.
But back to the rap, Soare you still on tour? I

(13:01):
know you got a couple of dates. You get the Museum of Modern Art
that's coming up Honolulu. Right,We're gonna slide out there to Honolulu and
that's pretty much the last show.Okay, I ain't going overseas, not
just yet. I get the money. I gotta get the money right for
that. Okay, Okay, Yeah, he said next, next, next

(13:22):
tour, and he's gonna try toinclude me in that budget because right now
I'm on my own dollar going outthere and overseas. Man, you gotta
trying to travel throughout that that.You know that the men of Nashville try
to you know, pretty sure theygot a fan that got fans in a
London or somewhere. We can makea tour happen for the RBO of course,
of course where this is the washingBack podcast. I'm film on Mike

(13:46):
with Black Sea of rb oposse uhback to the music. I oh,
actually, let's get on the book. The book just dropped a couple of
months ago. A part of survival. What's this book about? Tell us
about it? At about everything withthem through man yes down out there,
make yes sir. But it's it'slike it's it's exactly what it is.
It's just a part of survival fromthe block to the booth and telling everything

(14:09):
before RBL me leading up to misterSeed from the Frisco Gang Wars and we
still funk with you know, feelmost Sunnydale, all that me losing my
eye during that time and just thetruths that happened, you know that I
was a part of with Lonnie Green, you know, with the pig Skins
and all of them coming over there, JT and them all coming over to
the block and uh us making thetruth to us, uh, blowing up

(14:33):
in the music and going through allthe ups and downs of the music industry
with Jason, and then a minuterecords to losing this deceeed, falling out
with my neighborhood to us, youknow, just making a comeback, you
know what I mean? Everything.So the stories is war stories, pre
war stories, all that up inthere. Man, check out the book,
man apart Us Survival From the Blockto the booth, Thank you man,

(14:56):
from a block to from the blockto the booths. Man, I'm
feeling I got to check that out. I think that copy is mine.
I'm having to read that. SoI had a question for you regarding uh
state of San Francisco rap as faras like the youth, any do you
have like a list of not alist, but tell me some of the

(15:20):
rappers that you like coming up besidesLarry June, some of the rappers in
San Francisco, if you know anthe West Coast artists you feel me Andrisco
because they don't get no thank youman. I gotta give lood a young
lot. Yeah, man, sovicious, you know a little Kayla man,

(15:43):
man, Uh, I gotta getmy my boy, Luciano CHESSI chess
hard man. The man. Theydon't all of them, they don't get
they judge. They just need theybreak, you know. Of course,
Larry June, you know you're topdog. And then you know you got
people like little Pete in them.Man, you know little ye zay Bang,

(16:04):
little Pete, little Bean. Man, that's a lot. That's like
ten rappers, you messing with one. I like all of them, like
they they look keep me motivated,Like am I pay attention to them.
You know, they killing it,you know they they they selling out shows,
They're doing ain't thing, especially littleBean uh zay Bang, little Kayla,

(16:26):
like all of them, it's killingit right now, you know what
I mean. They they they makingground, you know what I mean.
And I think they they just needthat break, you know what I mean.
And man, besides them, Iwould say, you know the ogs,
you know, like self skiing them, who's still putting it down,
who's still trying? Man? Youknow, I just wish my boy uh

(16:48):
Fote would just kind of come backto man. I really wish, like
man he can get on this becausehe one of the ones that can do
good and selling cow man and hegot that connection man. And if you're
listening, bro, come home,man, stop playing. You know,
I'm trying to get something going rightnow too. With eleven five. We
got a little album, were workingon a little RBO eleven fives. Have

(17:08):
you heard it here? First heardit here first? Man? We searched
for beats right now, I'm justscouting around. So I'm doing a lot
of joint albums, you know.Like I said, I got one going
with Joe Fresco that's about to dropAugust eleven, you know, called Ruthless.
So going back to that G funktype mob era. Yeah, do
you find it? What's what's thebeauty? And working doing a like a

(17:33):
collab album, what's the beauty init? What are you finding? It's
easy. You ain't gonna you ain'tgonna come up with all the concepts.
It's like nowadays, just one versusa song, you know what I mean,
instead of me happing to do twoto three verses to complete the song,
gotta come up with the concept.I got help, you know.
So it's it's it's easy to getdone fast. You know, five verses,

(17:53):
five songs, you know, anduh, that's that's the beauty.
And especially if you got somebody whoain't lazy, who really contributing, you
know. And now that's what madeit easy with Joe Fresco because he ain't
really known, but his contribution tothe album, like bringing in singers and
bringing in beat makers and stuff likethat made me do the album with him.
You know. I was actually supposedto me and Juice was supposed to

(18:15):
connect on the album, and thenuh, you know, it was just
other things that happened. It tookplace that made me kind of push back
a little bit. And Joe Frescocame in and I was just like,
man, you know what, Ithink we're gonna go in and run with
this. He came with a coupleof concepts and I liked him, and
I was like, let's just let'ssee how this go. Let's go on
and you know, do a littletest drive on some of this stuff,

(18:37):
and and we the songs came outdope, and I was just like,
man, you know what, let'sbuild a round these you. And that's
what happened, definitely, because Iheard of that making funky record and I'm
like this this, Yeah, I'mdefinitely feeling this. And so how did
y'all. How did y'all link up? Because I would keep it. I've
never I've never heard of Joe fresNow he a new artist. You know

(19:02):
a lot of people probably haven't heardof him. Yeah, he knew,
he knew. I hate that.Nah, No, he knew, you
know, from Saint Jose too.So you know, I love that he
represent that Fallweight and Fallweight never reallyhad no known rapper, you know,
probably King Assassin is probably the bestknown, and and maybe Drew Drew Beazy.

(19:26):
Drew Beazy was from San so hewas okay, so yeah, okay,
yeah, shout out to them becauseyou know, but we don't want
to disrespect nobody, right right,right, right right, you know what
I mean. So it's all aboutjust trying to help them get you know,
get on the map, you know, just have somebody from down there
in the Full Weight, you know, just four and five four away connection
man. And yeah, he justkind of contributed just by bringing a lot

(19:49):
of just he brought that old likenineties of stuff he do he do.
White people gonna be surprised at howhe sound on this album. Man,
we got some tracks that we didthat he kind of got that easy e
vibe. Man, were going backto that n WA type stuff, and
man, the boy is he gassing. I ain't gonna lie. He made

(20:11):
me step it up on a fewof them tracks. It's like whoa,
Okay he came. I was like, man, okay, let me go
over to the drawing board. Igotta go back, let me redo my
verse, you know what I mean? So he hard. How long did
the album take to make? Aboutthree weeks. When we work fast,
I work fast. Once I gotthe concept, you don't take me no
time to knock it out. Alienssaid, you, uh, you like

(20:32):
to add nor a lot of yourprojects. Do you add nor for other
people other artists? Not really,It's just it's just really me on right
way. Yeah, yeah, whatI do for as far as on right
way, you know, right way, I kind of I like putting all
the projects, every album that cameout on the right way. I kind
of picked the beats, organized thealbum, did the art work, you
know. I like doing that.You know, the executive producing part is

(20:56):
where I it's really what my man, Yeah, yeah, I love I
love putting together like hit Man andSolo Creep, I put everything together like
doing the I Candy I produced thewhole album. You know, hit man
like rapping up. He wants torap on like a lot of East Coast
beats and a little weird sounding beats. But I was like, no,
I'm gonna put you on some ofthis mob phone right because I always liked

(21:17):
it, like dudes from the EastCoast when they get on the West Coast
beat like corrupt sound on blo,just like, yeah, like they kill
it, you know what jadakiss onsomething produced by a battlecat or something like
you can't go around sound sick sick, you know what I mean? They
eat it up. I always hadthat kind of emmy to kind of choreograph
things like that. Do you findyourself when you performing? You said this

(21:40):
kind of earlier though, uh likenot not when you're performing, but after
the performance, do you feel doyou feel like your your star power and
people like coming up to you,and do you feel so Garner mean not
saying taking away later fans, butyou know, picking up fans along the
way. Yeah, that's it's aboutyou. Stop. You got to go

(22:02):
out there and hopefully went over someof'em. That's the whole part of
getting out there and even whether youopening up, or just being part of
the tour, just going out doinga song. The whole the whole ideas
is to try to win over somefans, you know, get them followers
up, because I know for Sheldy, mine didn't went up and the streams
that went up every time I dealtwith Larry, right, I mean,
so it's definitely working. That's thewhole purpose of it, right yeah,

(22:26):
all right, yeah, what's youruh what's your biggest song besides from the
new one? Was it? Isit? What's happening? Uh yo?
Yeah? Yeah, and my claythat's what Sheldy the biggest. Yeah,
they tell me in Spotify and uhyeah, iTunes. It'll let you know
straight up, we're gonna get Happeningthe biggest one. Right, We're gonna

(22:47):
get into some new music. We'renot some new music, but we're gonna
get into one of your videos rightnow. Hold on one second, Chris,
We're gonna get into get It Cracking. Tell us about Get It Cracking?
Man. This was that first singleoff the Black album Man and uh
man, it just is what itis. It's me getting it cracking.
It's like setting it off the firstone off the first single and the first

(23:08):
song on the album you Know We'regonna drop him May Wash your Back podcast
film on Mike black Sea. Itis called get It Cracking. Oh what's

(23:30):
second? Taking your mouse cracking?We get it cracking it cracking. Everybody
went and that was my niggas,and know what's happening? What's happening?

(23:56):
I me chasing the paper like amother, never checking pussy. I'm knocked
the nub side one crushing. No, I'm never scared, and you'll pitch
you don't bitch, I'm near yourbit of me. You PRIs fuck getting
the niggas looking bad and got yourlips poked out niggas man, cause I
got a little bit more cloud nogetting no where real niggas pitt backs out
cast like I'm big boy, andthree stacks from my next move on to

(24:18):
my next move. The boy tryingto make his next movie's best move.
I got my nine. So don'tmake a nigga letting loose. Been playing
check That's why your nigga making chessmoves. If you're snoozing, you lose.
That's a done deal, right.I was taught that you eat what
you poke kill. You don't work, you don't eat this what's had.
It was said this once, sothe ones made it happy. Here we
get a cracking picture from the city, so it's happening. Us a bitch.

(24:40):
I hate with a passion. You'llnever gets me slacking the packet ready,
but some maxhing the team. I'mthe motherfucking cat and we get a
cracking picture from the city, soit's happening. That's a bitch. I
hate it with a passion. Younever gets me slacking the fagger. Ain't
it ready there's some mashing them dummiesout here about to start crashing. Yeah,
I'm the captain of the ships.Yeah, peb before bitch, we
ain't saving. Ain't no rest tapingand I'm just saving Chippy's on my hitting?

(25:03):
Is that motherfucking make room? Itwas over for a pisto funny color.
I found it down like I don'tsit out. I like that nigga
named clip about the house. Soit's money in the esk broke from the
burns. They can tell I'm fromthe cat till it ain't let go of
my old ways. I'm a patients. Think him suffer ripping road ways or
your pitchers love the demons till y'allgetting blades with the niggas, leave your

(25:26):
house your better burn sage. I'mgona thoroughly get in the morning with the
rooster, produce a real nigga andbutt you bitch of shoes till I use
I'm ana din like shooler, slaplike Rick Ruler, like I'm young,
but I still knock a cru here. We get a cracking picture from the
city. So it's Hatten and thebitch. I hate with a passion.
You never gets me slacking the packet. Ready, put some maxing the team.
I'm the motherfucking cat, and weget it cracking pitcher from the city.

(25:49):
So it's hat and the bitch Ihate with a passion. You never
catch me slacking the packet. Ready, put some mashing them dummies out there
about to start crashing. We geta crack, everybody, I didn't want

(26:15):
to know what's happened? Get nickcracking black seat right there, man hunding
that black feeling that right there.Appreciate it. Appreciate definitely what it,
what it went into. The uhthe concept of that video. Who did
the video? Who directed it?Uh? My boy? Uh nobe noble,

(26:37):
noble cinemas. Man, Yeah,he been. He did a lot
of my videos. He did alot of my favorite videos too. But
uh yeah, nobe. We justI just talked about wanted the performance video
forecast. So we just simple,yeah, something simple. We haven't really
no concept. We just got thereand just pretty much freestyled it. You
know. He like, man,pull your car in, let's do some
scenes with your truck and man,we just gonna kind of just move around

(26:59):
inside the building. And that's whathappened. Who are some of the producers
you worked with on this album?I mean you say, yeah, the
Black album Foley, I worked withFoley Hermonada, Foley Hermonada, best bet
who else I'm missing on their Follyand Hermonada really did majority of the album.

(27:22):
Oh Katie slaps, I can't forgetmy boy Katie. Yeah. He
he did a couple on there,and that's pretty much it. They pretty
much took over the whole album,right because, like I was saying,
uh, your albums have a soundand one of the other things I like
about your albums. It's not nonothing against people doing quick albums, thirty

(27:45):
thirty minute albums, but it's eighteentwelve it's third twelve thirteen, fourteen songs,
full songs, full songs for aslap you feel me there? Full
of quality exactly, you know whatI'm saying. Exactly? Do you consider
your album with it's like like twentyfive twenty, like a six song,
seven songs when you consider that EP? Yeah, yeah, anything below ten

(28:10):
is definitely an EPT you. Butyeah, one thing about me is I'm
a producing myself because you know,I produced all our earlier stuff. So
right, ain't nobody gonna just slideme no nothing. You know, I
go through, I go through thelibrary. They ain't gonna just give me
no Junkyard ship. Right, I'llbe you know, I know how to
pick him, you know what.So, yeah, you ain't just slide

(28:30):
me nothing. I might even thoughif I might know a producer got it.
I go through twenty thirty beats,and you know, because I know
he got him, I just belike, bro, just keep digging,
you know, give me that stuffyou sent Larry, and give me some
of that stuff you sent payro Giovannia. You know, no send me no
Junkyard ship. So and then theyonce they start seeing I know my ship,
they start opening up that chest rights. Yeah, man, I just

(28:57):
had a quick Oh, what's yourfavorite team out of all our sports teams?
Niners, Warriors, and the Giants. Damn Niners, man, but
I like the Giants logo better.Okay, that's why I'm really wear I
got him one Niners hat on thenight, but I usually don't wear the

(29:18):
Niners hats like that. Okay,I like that s seven something about that
Giants. Man, it's just that. Yeah, it's just I love it.
I'm so much of a Frisco likemaniac, Like I get mad when
people be from here and be wearingNew York fitting. Man. I mean
too, you won't, bro,I will hunt down the Yankees blue.

(29:42):
I'm so happy I found one becauseI'd be like, man, I am
not. I don't wear no teams, you know what I mean. I'd
be like, damn, they onlygot that fucking Padres coming the Padres right,
and I got this outfit that thathad to go. I will throw
on the bucket hat of something,you know, go fund a brown bucket
hat, man, before I wearthat until they come with the Warriors,

(30:04):
a Niners or a Giants in thatcolor. I don't fuck with no other
teams now, I do gotta nowthrowback like I do. Got a old
Gary Peyton SuperSonics Jersey and hat thatI've been having tucked away that I got.
I ain't worried yet, but I'vebeen waiting nowhere. But that team
ain't around, no, so it'skind of good. Yeah, it's kind

(30:26):
of good. It is GP Yeah, Ji Jimpy for the tale. Who's
your favorite? Who's your favorite?Current favorite Niner? Current favorite gotta be
Bosa Bosa? Yeah, Nick Bosa. I thought you was gonna say Deebo.
Samuel stereotyped Bosabo might Deebo might besecond though he's second for Sholey.

(30:48):
But yeah, I don't know.Just something about Bosa. Man, it
might be Kiddling after him, andthen probably Debo. Okay, y'all like
kidd too. Yeah? I likeKiddle Man. He's man, He's a
beast. I love a kidder now, so uh, back to the music,
man, what you said the ComingRuthless? Is it? The album
is called Coming Ruthless right right now? It's called Ruthless. It was actually

(31:12):
was gonna be called Coming Ruthless.That was the title track. But then
I don't know. For some reason, I just didn't like the coming Ruthless.
I was just like, bro,we're gonna take the coming off.
Just named the album ruthless. That'skind of hard. Yeah. How many
songs? How many tracks on there? How many features? Right now?
We just got a dude named AnthonyDans on it, uh Daisy Hollow and

(31:33):
his dude named Dub and his dudenamed Cadence. We kind of kept it,
uh, kind of small because it'sme and him, so were it
really wasn't a room to be putting. We didn't want to do too many
three fold minute songs getting features becauseit's already me and him, so yeah,
we just kind of kept it likethat. And yeah, it's about
I believe, fourteen songs and threeskits, okay, got on this day

(31:56):
we went back to the doing likethe W Balls and back radio station through
the whole thing. Yeah yeah,yeah. Now because already hears man Young
Boy shout out Ricky Harris for YoungBoy wanted me to do a skit for
his album. Yeah, so Iwas telling him, like, bro,

(32:17):
first of all, I was that'swhat I was thinking. I was like,
I was thinking of everybody's good,like all the good skits from the
W Balls. I remember the Fuji'shad a funny ass skit on the album.
If dude was in the h hewas in the bat cooking up the
rice. I don't know if youremember that. He was like, what
you say, you bitch nigga saysomething to me? Is that It was

(32:39):
some funny as he was like,I forgot what he said, but I
was listening to all that trying toget Yeah, man, I was trying
to get this. I'm missing moreof did his skit with Creech. He
was talking about girl, you gottwhen you went the club, you gotta
sweet jimmies, you gotta. SoI'm trying to think it. I ain't

(32:59):
trying to use nobody else ship.Yeah, but you know you get motivation
from the inspiration from it though,Yeah, definitely. So you know,
I'm trying to expand and broaden myhorizons. Exactly when are you gonna work
with uh Rick Rock again? Hey? Least when y'all gonna make that happen?
Huh Yeah, I don't know,man. I I tried to work

(33:19):
with him a couple of years back. At the time, it was just
he just didn't have nothing from me. You know, I love Rick Rock
because he produced all damn the wholealbum on I for an eye, right,
But I don't know. It's justlike he had a bunch of stuff
that that sounds like it was forE forty in them, like it wasn't
nothing for me. He did havehis one track that he said he made
for Snoop Dogg that he didn't endup using it. I ain't heard it

(33:44):
yet. I still kind of wantthat b Yes, it was almost like
a little G funk vibe to aG funk mob vibe. But I just
I just gotta go sit with RickRock, you know what I mean,
and so he can see where I'mat with it, because even when I'm
watching him produce on this page,it's just it's a little different, friend,
it ain't it ain't my type,it ain't my vibe, you know
what I mean. But Rick Rockcan't produce for you. I would love

(34:06):
to see you been to him andhim been to you exactly, y'all kind
of do like a collaborative or maybelike a little EP or something like that.
You know, I think I onceI get my weight up a little
more, I think he might justyou know, you know, right now,
they'd be able there kind of producingthe Fody and showing whoever else,
you know what I mean, thebig dogs, you know, the Snoop

(34:27):
Dogg and them. So when Ididn't got at him a couple of times,
it just it just gotta work.They ain't got Yeah, well,
they just ain't moving fast enough forme. Man, I'm quick to just
you know, I'm out of there. I'm I'm I'm gonna personal personal,
you know, I gotta I gottakeep it moving, bro, That's it
right. So I mean you saida big dogs, You're a big dog

(34:47):
bro. Yeah, but you knowhow you know, motherfucker's be kind of
owns own that ship to where it'sdifferent when you're working with around Snoop and
Fody and all them. Man,you know they kind of look, you
know, gonna play favoritism. Man. You know it's it's just that type
of game. So it is whatit is. So that's what I say.
You know, once I drop acouple of these and stay out there,

(35:08):
motherfucker'd be more more open than youknow, listening to you. I
know what you mean, You knowwhat I mean. I struggle with that
because sometimes it's like not that it'sabout me, but like you want to
get to a level, and nothingagainst trying to help everybody out, but
I got to interview the big dogsfirst too. I could get to the
level right so that I'm at thelevel where I could get more understanding how

(35:32):
the game. I don't take itpersonal, so you know, you know,
it might feel like, oh,he ain't as relevant as them now,
so he ain't gonna bend over backwardsto you know, to produce for
me right at this moment, eventhough I know he got love for me.
He will try to get me something, but it's just I don't want
to procrastinate. And then all thatand you know, we haveing to wait
around, especially when I got young, hungry producers who throwing me shit left

(35:53):
and right, and they dope,hell they got eat rocks. So you
know, I ain't even tripping,bro, I got a team, man,
that's talk about that. Talk aboutyour team please. Man. It's
like, uh, well, it'slike, ah, I know, it
ain't just all you, Nah,it ain't me at all. It's like
the producers that I'm dealing with.It's like it's a bunch of them,
man, and they you know,from Hermonade to Foley to to me going

(36:17):
them to man, uh silicone sunsetting them who on this album? Uh,
we got dudes like slap lording themLike, we got a lot of
dudes, man, my boy foodon the beat. It's a lot of
them who don't produce for my pastalbum who trying to get in on this
album and they all like constantly sendingme stuff. You know, now stop

(36:38):
best bet. Yeah, it's alot of them and hermonating them. So
yeah, I got a squad ofdudes who who who produce? Man?
They dope right, acts really dope. Shout out to all the producers out
there. I was more so talkingabout your team as far as because I
know you just it's not just youas far as who working. It really

(37:00):
is like helping you out, gettingto be honest. He pretty much assists
me with everything, you know.He pretty much like my role manager and
my assistant, you know everything,you know what I mean. So it's
just really me and him. Wewere back to back tag team and everything.
Yeah you know what I mean.So he you know, we do
the good cop bad cop thing whenit kind of business or whatever, you
know what I mean. That game. Man, it's like, let's just

(37:23):
trust thing too, you know,He's been around me since he was been
young, you know, from youknow, seven, eight nine years old,
you know, in the neighborhood.So I trust him right now.
Until we get somebody who big andmore experienced to handle the full time management,
it's me and him handling it.I love it. I love it.
I love to see it. I'malias inspiration to me because I'll be

(37:46):
seeing him doing your thing and hebe you know what I'm saying, trying
to put you in the best situationto keep it lit. One of the
questions I had, because you areog how do you have all this energy,
my brother, to duke everything thatyou do, man, like let
people know, like that's it,you know, you know. And I
cut down on the weed and shit. You know I don't do too much

(38:07):
drinking and the weed. No,you know, So lifestyle changed, man.
It's just you know, I'm healthyas wealth. Health is wealth,
man, And you know it justgot me the energy. I ain't gonna
lie. When I was smoking allday every day, man, I was
lazy. I wasn't getting stuff done. I wake up and blunting my mouth
before I even moved. And thenall of a sudden, I'm procrastinate.

(38:29):
Alright, I don't do that nomore. Now, get up and shoot
straight to the gym, and itjust give me energetic come back, shower
and just get to on the sYeah, wash that bag, you know.
And then all of a sudden,you know, I'm on social media
seeing what's up, checking the emailsand everything, and the day started.
So that's pretty much is what itis. You know, me and him

(38:49):
might tap in and go over afew things and you know, get some
you see what's liked up for thealbum or what we got going on for
videos or whatever, and shows,and that's pretty much it. That's how
the day go. Bro. Howdo you be getting all the car shows?
Blood? You be at all thecar shows? I got a big
hey shout out to all my Latinofans, but I just got a big
Latin fan base, and so thathelps a lot, you know. They

(39:14):
and I see it, even whenI with my with my merchandise that I'm
shipping, I see where it's going. I see the names, you know
what I mean, And I knowyou know what I mean. They like
Latino. Yeah, exactly, exactlyexactly. I got you. They fuck
with us heavy, you know whatI mean. Thank god that they still

(39:35):
you know, fun with the RBObrand and they still rock with me.
You know what I mean. Yougot fucking you got the book, you're
on tour, you got albums,you got action dolls and ship mister.
Yeah, we're working on that rightnow. And that album cover that's one
of the sikest out numbers of alltime. Creep creep? Was that your

(39:58):
idea? Yeah? That was myYeah, that's me and hit Man on
there. Young went Ben David shirtsand like, man, we finish throwing
these RBL bandanas, man, andwe finished just take a simple picture and
I just think it's gonna work.And it worked. It The hall did
it and it worked. Man,that works. It's classic. Bro.
Let's get back to some more newshit. Let's go into uh let me

(40:20):
see one second. I gotta usetwo different things over here. We're going
to uh what you want to gointo black Sea? Let's let's check out
that. Let's go into that.Make it funky? Yeah, I like
that one. Make it make itfunky, y'all? Is film more mic
on to wash your back podcasts inhere with black Sea, RBO posse.

(40:43):
This is new shit right there.You already got twenty eight thousand views.
Work pretty good, we release worldpremiere A Black Sea and Joe Fresco.
Make it flunky, make it funky, sucking the brothers back, you know,

(41:09):
really rocking nigga. Make you blackSeas your Fresco say, working man,
what you missed that? Boys inthe wood hen huh, niggag scrap
shit. Let's get a Brockett suckup to the drop coach home of the
hot ones niggers, rather chats Gluck'sairs and them shot guns siggers like Crasco.

(41:31):
When you're gonna drop something something backwith the black Hatter, get a
black sup Oh. Ever, whenit was the ball main the will stand
up. Niggas never had the crossgame. No, I'm all dripped.
Then that Gachi getting that ball mandog status way past small change stop full
of bright fire up the Brocket sapcoach, flipp into that rbl Pasiggs beyond

(41:52):
one, Heiggas beyond one, Niggasbeyond our chop cheese saucy. I don't
want the bitches. She don't dropsmoke on somebody. Elect your consciously friends
you're now rocking with, Then theycould be La C K C I'm trying
to knock leave a party soon afterI hit the party with a whip like
nagging in the real thick body theshell. You man, man, nigga,

(42:14):
make you pray. You think youback, you man, You man
man, nigga, make your backyou think you bucking man never gets me
riding with a ski. So andif you ever see your best, believe
it ain't with me though, withme and your real niggas, I only

(42:34):
fuck with ye. So miss mewith that bullshit before we bring that heat
out doing my paint. I ain'tlook at my cheesew ain't looking like a
rubber buddy, buy sell ain't Iain't an ever water was a cougar or
kansty ain't come dude brands blue sittingon. I ain't strap bright on my
shoulder can not kill it. AndI'm straight out of Frisco. You know
that I'm the real listening to It'sthe grip pump for my lap at all
time. So when I slide through, best believe I got mine stride Pasco

(42:59):
chilling black seed, killing two coldniggers from the man making the killing niggas,
making moves, story and making moneyand whatever we do we go for
show making. Fucking man man,Nick you thank you, king man.

(43:19):
Fucking fucking man Man, Nick you, thank you, bucking, fucking bucking
man. Oh yeah, we liveman sitting there in black Sea, new
Man, Puck black Eye Man.Yeah. I'll be seeing in stores in

(43:45):
its own line and stuff, butyou can still go pick it up.
Probably in stores right oh yeah yeahyeah yeah, definitely be physical. Yeah,
or on the website Orbposse dot com. Yeah. Let him know what
else that could get on that badboy? Yeah yeah, all the merch
man, the hat sweaters, bluebirdhoodies. Uh, you can get the
no Bammer hoodies, t shirts,CDs, all our old CDs. You

(44:07):
know, if you want lesson tobe learned, hard copy, ruthless by
law hard copies, uh, theBlack album hard copies, the Black C's
album card copies, everything. Yeah, we got it all on rboposse dot
com and click the store link.Hey, Sonny, can we just go
to that real quick? How important? Because one thing I noticed when you

(44:28):
said you took a hiatus, youstill was selling merch oh yeah, from
that twenty twelve and whenever Larry Jeanecame and got you. How important is
the merchandise for you and the qualityof the merchandise, yeah, because you
don't be putting out no bullshit assquality shit. Yeah yeah, nah.
They got to make sure you hadthat merch right. And it was important

(44:49):
because that was you know, thatthat sale years year round, you know,
because of the bammer Wig. Youknow, so every Folk twenty it
go up, the streams go up. You know. I was blessed to
be able to you're part of alegendary song and produce a legendary song that
just you know, I eat offof it every year. Put me for
the past thirty years. Yeah,you know, we thirty years in and
it's still paying the bills, youknow. So it's sweet that uh you

(45:13):
know, they still buy the merchnon stop every year it sells. So
yeah, that was very important,you know, on top of doing the
licensing deals, just licensing it fromfor movies, sitcoms or whatever, you
know, uh, DVD documentaries forskateboards at yah, the skater World.
Man, they love the first album, you know, they really really fuck

(45:35):
with it. So yeah, ohthat's that's that's man, though. You
know, even when all was sittingthere, That's why I was able to
just kind of going hiatus. Iwas like, Man, I'm eating on
these other avenues. You know,I'm doing these lightsing deals, I'm selling
merch like I don't really ain't reallytrimming off of rapping right now, right,
So yeah, that's what's up man, Black seat rb oposse here film
on Mike washing Back Podcast. Oneof the questions for getting late, gonna

(45:58):
have to let you go on asecond week. Don't have to let you
go, but we don't want youto stand up too late when you gonna
work out in pneumony. Yes,sir, what are the questions I have
for you? Was? What haveyou learned from Larry June Man? I
learned a lot as far as likehow he his crew, how they man
they organized, man, how theyeven with the merch. I like how

(46:21):
he do its drops even though Iwas already doing mine first. I like
how he do the limited drops andis he kind of do it like supreme
in them to where you know orlike some limited George exclusive to where it
makes people wanted when you only gota hundred pieces or fifty pieces. So
I learned a lot just watch himhow he just be organized on this tour.

(46:43):
Man just seeing how he handled themerch to the team to the because
he handled all his own tour likehe paid for everything. You know,
he linked up with Live Nation andI think those first tour he was with
GUYSI and them with Empire them anddid it. But that's all him.
That's all a lot of pockets,you know, June Handler's business. And
uh man, I just love theentrepreneur in there. Man. He killing

(47:06):
it. You know, he killingit in a hundred percent ownership. You
know. Hey, man, allI go, says this man to all
my youngsters coming out, Chris blackSea, this is how you answer a
question. He answered the question completely. It ain't just three words and give
me a chance to think about something. I swear to got question. Yeah.

(47:29):
Man, they'd be having me inhere. Man. I'll be like,
man, so what's going on?What's cracking? They'd be like,
oh, you know, none,just chilling training. Man, we're having
to the NRS Artist Development Media training. You got to you got to sell
yourself. They tripping, They trippingbasically on a platform like this. You
know you're a professional though, Man, we're gonna talk about that. You

(47:52):
are a professional. I thank you. Tell the people before you get out
of here. What you got?Cracking you feel me? What's in the
works? Spill the beans let usknow. Man. Yeah, like I
said, Befold, the book isout now, A black Seed, A
part of Survival from the Block tothe Booth. That black album is out
now. We got an album droppingcalled Ruthless Black Sea Joe Fresco dropping August

(48:15):
eleventh. Uh, we got acouple of shows coming up the San Francisco
Museum of Fine Arts, Museum ofModern Arts and yeah, good, good,
little good looking out and yeah that'sAugust third, free admission you know
at six o'clock, you know,for those who want to see us performing
them classics and free admission. Yeahit's free. Oh man, you can't

(48:37):
beat that. Yeah. I believethey celebrating the low Riders, the women
of low Riding or something like that. Yeah. So yeah, they're gonna
have a bunch of low riders upin there in the garden area or something
like that. And uh, yeahthat's coming up. Yeah, that's just
it s week. Yeah, it'sThursday, so yeah, come out and
see us. And yeah, wegot a few more things cracking off.

(48:59):
Got the Larry June show in Honolulu, that's August twelfth, yes, and
yeah after that, man, it'swe got a few things popping in October.
But we're gonna do a record releasefor that, That's what I say.
We're trying to We're gonna try toget that, you know, try
to set a few things up aroundthat album. Hopefully get Joe Frescard.
He's standing in Vegas. Got toget him out here to work. So

(49:21):
we're gonna try to set up youknow, a couple maybe a listening party
in a in a record release partyor two. And uh yeah, man,
we're just gonna stay working. Andif y'all want that merch, like
I said, y'all can go tothe Rio Posse dot com and click the
store link if you want to gostraight to the stores the ww dot RBO
Posse dot Big Cartail dot com.He O, yeah, man. Before
I go, man, I justwant to tell you, brut when I

(49:44):
hear your music and I'll be bumpingyour music, it reminds it's like grown
man music for sure. And Iappreciate you just doing you and stand in
your lane, not saying lane,but you're doing you when you acting your
your age speak, it's all bullshit. It's all biggest, so just to
watch it back podcast. Thank youBlack Sea from the bottom of my heart.
Chris, I really appreciate it.Alliance, I really appreciate it.

(50:07):
May rb O posse, may wesign it out, don't forget watch give
Back from my might come out peace. Yeah for the show.
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