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September 25, 2023 • 63 mins
Fillmoe Mike of 106.1 KMEL recently sat down with Rapper/Entrepreneur on this latest installment of the Wash Ya Back podcast.
Producer of this episode is Christian Montoya
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ye, we live. Sh It'sgood to go Christian yep and I can't
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right? There? You go,alright, let me know when you're ready.
All right. Inside the world famousWash Your Back Podcast. I go
by the name of Filmo Mike.This is up. I am Filmo Mike.
This is the Washing Back po Podcast. And we got a very very

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special guest in the billing today rapperentrepreneur. Uh go get her. Go
by the name of Don Pete.Yes, sir, yes, sir.
Down people, what's up? Film? Mother? Oh you know man,
living work and chilling breath? Comeon, man, come on, man,
come on man, I got aquestion for you though. Come on,
man, talk to me. Didyou wash your back? Man?

(03:23):
You know what? Man? Iused Irish spring. You feel, man,
that's the best thing to use tostay fresh and so clean? Come
you know what thinking about Irish spring? Talk to me? And not only
does it make you clean, makeyou smell good, it cleans your nostris,
like your nostris to be really dowake you up? Like the commercial?

(03:44):
Yeah, the commercial you start wakingup straight up. Man. Man,
I'm awake, Man, you feelme. I'm just here to wake
the game up. Man, youknow what I'm saying. But what we've
been doing, Mike off top,I feel like they try to sleep on
the kids sometimes, you know whatI mean. Let the people know what
you do, what you've been upto, what's been cracking, what you

(04:05):
got cooking. Man, you know, it's it's a lot to dive into.
But from the from the gate,you know, it's just it's always
gonna start with the music, youknow what I mean, just from the
gate, you know, my historyand the music here in the Bay Area.
Yeah, That's what I've been doing, you know, that's just what
we've been doing, creating music.And I recently really just what you got

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out right now? Yeah, Yeah, I got back to getting back in
the studio, you know, andand creating. Got back in the creative
space because you know, I've beendoing a lot out here from you know,
being on the radio doing my radioshow and you know US Radio and
doing the magazine. You know,I've been music, you know, out
here pushing and covering events and stufflike I covered Rolling Live three years in

(04:51):
a row, covered outside lands,you know what I mean, all the
all the festivals here and you know, you know, and interviewing a lot
of the artists here and making sureI'm shining in the light on our artists
here, and you know, creatinga culture here where we can promote and
market ourselves. You know, youno, I know. I mean you've

(05:11):
been on your grind, bro,Like you've really been on your grind.
And the thing is one thing thata lot of people don't know about is
like it like in order to dowhat you do, and you have many
things that you do, you haveto have like corporate sense, you gotta
be corporate thugging. You just can'tbe fully thugging talk to the people about

(05:33):
you feel me like the grind andjust just the you know, just being
you don pete corporate thugging. Youknow, you gotta go from the hood
to the to the boardroom. Sometimestell people about that process, like from
the sweets to the space exactly.No, No, it's true though,
Like educate yourself, you know whatI mean, Like the main thing is

(05:54):
about educating yourself. I mean,because like even with the acting, like
you know, I went to schoolfor acting. You know what I'm saying.
I literally went to school for acting. So when people see me in
movies, they just think, oh, you know, a rapper trying to
act. But it's like, nah, I really love acting. I love
it so much that I signed upfor a class, and I went and
learned how to you know, Ilearned blocking, you know what I mean.

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I learned you know, I learnedhow to stand. You know,
I learned how to where to stand, where to stand? You know what
I mean. I learned, youknow, the etiquette and all that exactly.
So I've done theater and everything Iwant to. So the award.
Where did you go to school inSan Francisco? School's hell of school?
Okay, yeah, so you gotschooled, you guys, Academy Art.

(06:42):
Stay you went, come on,come on, come on. You didn't
even get that fancy man. Ijust followed my dad and went straight to
City College. Okay, you knowwhat I'm saying. I didn't even do
all that, man. I justdid what my pops did. Man,
that's why he wasn't really triple likein the city. In the city.
Yeah, that's what I said,the city because City College at my back.
Okay, okay, okay, butthe show it was. It was

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cool though, because the film programthere is hell a dope, you know,
the film program at City College,if you know what I mean.
Shouts out to the film program overthere, because if you don't know about
it, like you might go,you know and try to pay hell of
bread to be in some kind offilm program and get over there at City
College and realize that it's pretty muchthe same thing, right, you know

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what I mean. You can checkout all the equipment, you could do
all the stuff. So I hada great time over there, just learning
film and all that creating and youknow what I'm saying. So, like
I said, it's all about educatingyourself. Because I had already did a
few plays, already had been ina few movies, and then I decided,
like yo, I want to goto school and learn. Hold on,
and I had already done it.Hold on, hold on. So

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before you got into movies, youwere I mean, before you let me
let me see, you just saidthat you already been like, before you
went to school to act, youwere already in movies. How the hell
does that happen? Because I'm Iyou know me, I'm just a wiggler.
Yeah, go and I'm gonna signup, like to be keeping it
real, Like I'm not even tryingto brag. I'm not trying to be

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funny, but I'm every audition Iever auditioned for, I got it,
and acting got you. I've gotevery everything I ever see. That's why
I'm trying to tie it together.What you said, like, because you
just said never, I just saidcorporate thugging. Yeah, so you just
can't not have no acting experience,get the role, and then go to

(08:30):
school after you got the role.Yeah. So I mean a lot of
people don't know that type of that. That's a part of the game.
Like that in the game when youworking on the set, they're on the
set and you hear all these thingsthat people are saying. Right, I
just wanted to educate myself so Icould make a movie and you know,
and so I could create and continueto create, because I didn't want to

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be on the set and not knowwhat people were talking about, you know
what I mean. So I waslike, damn, all right, I'm
already here with these big people.You know, they're making this, this
this real movie. You know,these multimillion dollars they got the big cameras
that everything is real. You know, you got people running around and shit
stuff, you know what I'm saying, So you get cursed. Okay,
So you know what I mean.You got people running around, so it's

(09:13):
like you start thinking like, oh, okay, I want to be on
my on top of my game.Yeah. So that's why I was like,
Yo, I'm gonna go to schoolso I could learn. And you
know, I don't want nobody tobe looking down at me, you know
what I mean, thinking it's justsome nigger from the hood trying to jump
out of his lane. And doyou do you get do you are you
conscious of that? Do you becare? Do you care what others like?

(09:35):
Do you care about your perception?Like it sounds like a stupid question,
but sometimes people just do what theydo and they don't even think about
what they're doing, you know whatI'm saying. Yeah, I mean,
but do you like have a likea method to your madness when you go
to like someone that the the directorof the show or the movie or whatever,
or is it just you willy kneelingand in freestyling. Nah, I

(09:56):
mean, if you don't, Ithink it's a creative approach to anything that
you're doing. God, you thinkyou should take you know, try to
take time to understand anything you're doing, Like any any job that you want,
any part that you want. Ithink you should try to figure out
how to take a creative approach tothat. Be dressed for that part.
Ready for that part. You knowwhat I mean, study that part?

(10:18):
You know what I mean? LikeI tried it out for you know,
different things like uh, you knowto play you know, so trained Don
Cornelius type stuff. You know whatI'm saying. So it's like I studied
Don Cornelius. So how do youwhen you when you're gonna eat some COUCHI
in a scene, how do youstudy for that? Well, I've been
extensive. I've already done extensive researchon that. Already I trne some extensive

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research. Trust me, trust trustme on this, Trust me on this.
When I just tell everybody, closeyour eyes, it's gonna get crazy.
It's gonna get scary. Now I'mjoking, man, we got down.
Just wash your back podcast. Weknow what I gotta do. We're

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gonna get you. We're gonna geta music video. Yours up. Check
this out. Let's do that.Let's talk some more. Let's do that
your music. You do a lot. I introduced you. I didn't even
put the actor. Man, it'sall good. Yeah, no, no
cap like I did a I dida play one one flew over the Cucu's

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nest. Okay, you know whatI'm talking about with Jack Sney. Yeah,
I play actually played that character,okay, and one flew over the
So yeah. Basically I went andthis was at the sixth Street Playhouse out
there in Santa Rosa. And basicallyI went out there and I tried out

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and they actually had another guy andand and I guess something happened with the
guy. He called They called meback, and like it was like Thursday
was like the show starts on Friday. And I went and learned the whole
the whole script, and like oneday and opened up and did three days,
you know what I mean, threedays of performance and then miss a

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beat, didn't didn't didn't nothing stopped, didn't miss a beat. Definitely lead
role and everything, battling with theLeague character, fighting the whole fight scene
with the Jack Nicholson character and allthat. And I learned the whole script
and one day, wow, andone day yeah, that's that's what I

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do. What I'm saying memory wise, when it comes to like memory,
memorizing the script and stuff like that, that's what I'm you know what I
mean. That's why it's easier forme to do it because I can memorize
the script if I just read it. But I'm good at a living talk
about your music as far as whatyou have cooking and going on right now,
I've just seen one of your videosis going up word. So I

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mean, if it just just aquick history, you know what I'm saying.
I started here in the Bay Area. You know, I started doing
my own thing. I took myown money and I put my album out
because I was going all around askingeverybody to help, and you know,
it was tough to get some help. So I was like, you know,
I'm gonna just take my own moneyand put my own album out.
So I did do that, youfeel me? So I put I put

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my own album out, and youknow, it was cool, you know
what I'm saying. I did mything, you know, and then I
signed up with Kaylu with No LimitRecords. You know what I'm saying.
With Klu No Limit, and thenwe got Snoop Dogg on the album and
Silk the Shock and You was inSeattle though, right, Yeah, when
I was out in Seattle, Iwas out there, you know, working,
and I worked at the radio stationout there at Cube ninety three.
Wow. Yeah you know what I'msaying. Hey, but listen, though

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I went I met the program directorTony b out there at a club where
I had just did a performance.I performed, and when I came off
stage, there was like this theguy who you know, he's a program
director at the radio stage. Hesaid, Bro, you know, whyn't
you? You know, sign upfor a class. So I signed up
for a film class in Seattle.Okay, so I could intern at Cube

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three Wow dedication. Yeah. Sothen I interned at Que ninety three until
I got up, you know,and start doing my own little show.
I gotta keep reintroducing you come on. So you know, I just did
that talent all that shit. SoI get that. I just have fun
with it, bro, you knowwhat I mean. I'm an entertainer,
you know what I'm Yeah, I'man entertainer. I just have fun with

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it because I mean when I lookat people like L L cool J,
and you know, people who cango on and do different things from music
to movies and stuff like that.Those are the people that I relate to.
Ice Cube, you know, Tupac, who's your favorite artist? Who's
your mom Rushmore? As Erica saymy mom Rushmore, Mount Rushmore. Of

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artists that you listen to, itdon't even happen to be rap, but
oh for real, who gives afuck. It's just don't matter who it
is. It could be Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson is I mean, if
we're doing that, If we're doingit, and we're doing that, we
gotta add Mike. I mean,is the ultimate. You know what I'm
saying. Come on, I ain'tgonna lie. Mike is the man.

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You know, I met Mike?What I met Mike? I met Mike
on We ain't even interview the residentas well. You meet Michael Jackson?
Yeah? No, I met Mikeon the fluke, man, And you
know what it's It's the funniest thing, bro. I met a lot of
people in my life on the fluke, and that's how I be. I'm
an aries, Okay, you knowwhat I'm saying, hot boy, yeah,

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hot real, I don't know whatfire sign? Okay, Yeah,
it'd be super lit. You knowwhat I'm saying. Yeah, like the
random people that I meet, justyou know, when I'm just traveling,
you know what I'm saying. Ijust come walking out the hotel and it's
like, what's up, Tank,Or I'm just like over here, you
know what, they got an elevatorrandomly with Biggie and Faith. You know

(15:58):
what I'm saying, Like, I'molder man, Come on, man,
you tell me we'll talk o geman right here from the Bay Area.
But you do got that vibe though. One thing I love about you done
like you kind of just you you. You do you, and that's a
that's real talk, a ultimate complimentthat nigga give you for real. You

(16:19):
do you. You know what I'msaying, you you You just don't just
follow, not saying that you follow, you're a follower. You kind of
just you do whatever the hell youwant to do. You're in your lane.
You do your music, like yousaid, you entertaining. You're an
actor. You've been on a beingon the radio. When when we schedule

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this interview, just some behind thescenes bts, he was like, bro
I know I know how to radiobe Broby. It'd be a trip.
Bro. Like you'll see a dudethat you think a loser, and next
thing you know, he's the programdirector at the station. Bro. You
can't talk crazy to nobody. Man. Hey, that's one thing I'll tell
everybody out there to like respect inanybody you see, from the janitor to
the CEO. That's how I treateverybody. I treat everybody with respect,

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no matter who they are, becauseyou never know who somebody might be tomorrow.
And it ain't even just about that, it's just, you know,
just about chromatically. Just treat peoplecool. And you know what I mean,
I feel like life would give youa little bit of less like you
know what I mean, a littlebit more love back. Definitely, put
some good energy out in the worldand you'll get good energy back, definitely.
And I try to do that,you know what I'm saying. I'll

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try to do that way more thannegative shit, you know what I'm saying.
Yeah, Yeah, for sure,you know. And I mean that's
from learning, that's from growing upand learning because I was wild and young
and doing crazy shit too. Youknow what I'm saying. How much have
you changed because I met you backin the day. Yeah, if you
if I don't know if you remember, but I met you maybe like I
think it was doing like they hadthe Bars Awards. I think Bosky Awards.

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I met you back then, backin the day. I was crazy.
Back then. I was gonna sayyou like I was humbled yourself and
grown so much and I really didn'tknow you then. But it was crazy
because you know, I know you'llbe m and so it's just like,
yeah, I was crazy back then. I was. First of all,
I was thinking like, how didnot not that? Not that it matters,

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right, right, right, you'llbe m right. She didn't really
like black dudes back then. Iwas like, how did this food get?
Oh? Girl, it was atrip to me. But I think
about that. Hello asked me abouther, dude. He always asked he
is shocked. He's like, howdid you knock her? Basically he was,

(18:32):
but it wasn't asked me every timeGod, every time he see me,
he wants to go, bros,how did you knock her? Bro?
No, But it's not even likethat, not to say it like
that. I don't mean, I'mnot trying to disrespect anything. She's beautiful,
don't get me wrong. Were younger. First of all, she wasn't
as beautiful, just like I wasbeautiful. It's weird, Bro, I'm

(18:56):
sitting up see I see, Isee in her own favor bros lasses wrong
oh my space on Facebook. I'mlike, yeah, oh shit, I'm
gonna send her up here. I'mgonna send her up here. Bro,
she con't get you that she couldfind tell you blood, I swear blood.

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She was no, she was supercool. Yeah, she shout out
to the gateway, gets the gatewaytogether. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
for sure. That's my that's mypartner. Man. Nah, listen,
BROT understand. It's good people inthe world. Send it's good people in
the world, and you're gonna comeacross those people if you being good,
if you're being smooth, you knowwhat I mean. And that's just how

(19:41):
it is, bro, because it'sit's hell of funny because I don't want
to dwell on this, but it'sjust I was like, she's like tell
She's like like limp biscuit. I'mlike, no, Brop, She's still
like listen to that type of ship. Bro. I know what you're saying,
but I know it's that now Iget what you're saying now, Like,

(20:03):
Bro, scorn and still listen tothat, Still listen. It ain't
even about that, bro, youknow what I mean? Hey man,
that's what I'm saying. You couldyou could take it from you could take
it from there. Sit there,man, different strugs, different folks.
But you know, but I'm aI'm a real traveler though, I'm a
real traveler. So it's like Icould get in the room with any type

(20:25):
of people and and do me.You know what I'm saying, Bro,
you have a magazine. Come on, come on, bro, So that
that all came about. It allcame about about that. But I tell
you, I don't be humble.I'll tell you how it all came about.
Like, what's your magazine. It'scalled All Bay Music. Okay,
All Bay Music Dot. You've seenit. You've seen it. I put
Berner on the cover. I puta fter Pharaoh on the cover. I

(20:48):
am Sue Sweetie. You know whatI'm saying. Yeah, yeah, you
know I did all those interviews,actually did in a Sweeties interview at Rolling
Loud. Oh Shita when I puther on the cover. Yeah, All
Baby Music. You can see theInstagram were doing. Man, Yes,
it's cool that all came about becauseI was putting out my album and I
was, you know, hitting updifferent magazines trying to get a page.

(21:11):
And when I hit him up,they gave me some crazy numbers back,
like what it was gonna cost toget a page? Right when they gave
me those numbers, I was like, them some crazy numbers, my boy
right putt When he told me thosenumbers, I calculated to math and I
was like, if I took thatamount of money, I could start my
own magazine, my boy. Some and my homie we did that,

(21:33):
you know what I mean. Andthat's really what happened. So, you
know, we started all Bay Musicand then you know, we started taking
it off the ground and it juststarted growing and yeah, you know what
I mean, just just kept working. I'm sorry so hot in here,
but no, you got a bigass jacket. I know. I'm about
to take this moss resting piece macDre. You know, man, let
me floss the mac dra cookie shirtreal moment, man, Yo, shouts

(21:56):
out the cookies too. You knowwhat I'm saying, flosh it, motherfucking
change, you know what I mean. Smoky Smokey the Bear, you know
smoking man. Yeah, Smokey gotthe Jordan's zone. You know, smoking
the blood not bad as smoking shovel. You feel me. You got to
shovel so he can dig and goldenship, you know what I'm saying,

(22:17):
the shit man. But yeah,so the magazine, like I said,
the magazine all came from the ideaof that, you know, we need
culture here in the Bay Area.You know, we need magazines because I
used to see like Vibe, DoubleXL and the Source, and it was
like, you know, they waspushing the artists out of their regions and
stuff like that, and for oneof us to get in there, it
was hard, you know. Soyou know, and it would cost the

(22:41):
people that we had to connect withto get into their magazines was middleman in
us and overcharging us and just tomake that connect, you know. So
it was better to start for ourown culture here. So that's what that's
what that was about. As aas a as a bay somebody from the
Bay Area, I appreciate you becauseyou give people a platform and to utilize

(23:07):
and to check out for the peoplethat want to fuck with you and mess
with you. We didn't answer thatquestion your favorite rappers though? Who are
you some of your favorite rappers.My favorite rappers, Rushmore give me fault.
Definitely Tupac Got You. You knowwhat I'm saying. Definitely Tupac,
Snoop Dog Got You. You knowwhat I mean. Snoop is underrated as
fun. Snoop is super underrated.But you got to understand, uh,

(23:30):
hopping, hopping, bopping like arap. I mean, this dude can
say anything and make it sounding good. Senop Live. Of course, what
do you mean? I got Snoopon my album? What? Yeah,
you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Of course, you know what Imean. It's called Hogging and Dogg
and y'all can go listen to itright now, right now. It's out

(23:52):
everywhere. But at the end ofthe day, like you know, Snoop
Dog, Yes, sir, youknow what I'm saying. E forties lyrical
ability is insane, it is,you know what I mean? And E
forty gave me my first real breakout here in the rap game. Okay,
talk about it, so you knowwhat happened? Basically? How did
he give you a break? Basically? You know, I had been doing
my own thing, Like I said, I put my album out myself and

(24:15):
you know, I took my ownbread and got my distribution deal through ground
level out there in LA. Youknow, they hurt my music and just
flew me out there. Boom,gave me a deal. Boom, Wow,
my album's out everywhere. And shoutsout to JT. The biggest figure.
You know what I'm saying. Uh, he the one that walked me
through everything and it helped me evenunderstand what I was doing, you know

(24:36):
with the with the amounts, withthe CDs and the cakes and all that.
Like he JT. You know,through all the controversy, I gotta
say, JT. Man, he'she's a brilliant dude. I don't give
a fuck. That's dude, manman shots out the field. Man.
You know, my whole family's fromFields, No controversy, that's all.

(24:57):
My family's from Field, Mo.And you know, uh, you know,
I know Mess and JT and allof them. Growing up. Where
are you from from? Me?Stokeland? Okay, so I grew up
on twenty third, but my familyis from Turk Street. You know,
Yeah, my family's from Turks Turkwood, No turk Chop Chop City. I
got you got you got right acrossstreet from the project. So my people

(25:19):
was all right there Field, youknow, fascinate that's my cousin. You
know, Okay, you know thestreet, Like my family is really rooted
in Frisco. You got you gotyou, So it's like I was born
in Saint Luke's you know what I'msaying. So I'm I'm you know what
I'm saying. Yeah, So whenI when I'm talking about Frisco and how
much I love it and love Field, Mo, I'm I'm really talking about

(25:40):
my people. You know what I'msaying. I never knew you from me
Stokeland. I always thought you wasfrom Frisco. That's you know, because
the music like JT, like thefilm most to the Hunter's Point album.
I'm own that album, you knowwhat I'm saying. Like I'm on a
lot of the music that came outlike Explosive Mode, Messy, Marvin Saint
Quinn, I'm on that album.Oh you want bay Love? That's me

(26:03):
singing the hook Baye Love. Whatthe play is this famous? That's a
big game? Did you know that? Nigga? That's me. I got
this game for you if you wantedyou to keep it down. Pete,
the best kept secret, say myname and everything. How do y'all not
know everybody caught himself? Do youget your name? Everybody's hella don p

(26:26):
that's all. I'm glad I namemyself big all right, We'll come on
then let's talk about that. Talkabout that. Come on, talk about
that. Man, you feel mestraight up? Talk about these copy cats.
God damn it, I'm oh,I don't even feel that. Fuck
them all though, good nah yeah, but fuck them I got it,
I got it, I got it. Fuck them all though, you feel
me? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, fuck them all though?

(26:48):
You feel me real talk bro,Like, you know what I'm saying.
I hate the motherfucker's but at theend of the day, you know,
people can say whatever they want tosay. Ye it's Christian, got you
Christians cool? But like yeah,yeah, yeah, at the end of
the day, bro, Like it'sa lot of copycats. Bro, you
know what I'm saying, And Iain't mad at them, but you know,
like it's gonna be like I feellike the platforms should have have limited

(27:14):
who they let copy. That's thehardest I blame the platforms. I don't
really blame So that's a hard bodyfor copying because people are gonna copy anything
they think it's dope. You knowwhat I'm saying. Yeah, they're gonna
imitate it, you know what Imean, Like not even that, How
do you deal with as a assomebody that got like a platform for people
to shine, people getting at youand they really not like they just getting

(27:36):
at you because they seen you waswith Snoop or you feel me like they
almost getting on you on some tipperaryshit. I don't even care about that,
bro, you know what I mean. People gonna do that. Bro.
You know what I'm saying, Peoplegonna get at you when they see
you working. But it's just likeI told the homie, Bro, that's
real what I'm saying. People goget at you when they see you working.

(27:56):
No, they not doing no shit. But but but just like that
saying, you know a little badbitch that didn't like me the other day,
if she liked me today, right, all right? You feel me
like what can you do? Right? What I'm supposed to do? Shit?
You know what I'm saying, I'mglad she liked me today. So
you know, I just go towork, bro, and I don't really

(28:17):
think about it, you know whatI mean It's like, I feel like
people are gonna come to you whenthey see you working, and that's really
what you worked for. You workto have more work, you know,
you work to have more people interestedin what you're doing, you know what
I'm saying. So once you gotpeople interested in what you're doing, you
know, don't don't tweak. Justget back to work, you know what
I'm saying? Straight up? Yeah, just give them more of what they
want. But I mean there issome people that might have high sighted on

(28:40):
you or acted funny or some shitlike that, you know what I mean.
Those two people, then you gottafind it in yourself, like how
do I want to handle this?Do I want to just high side back
on this person? But I don'tdo that type of shit because I feel
like it's so much easier for meto just go be don P and just
be dope, and that's just goingto ruin their lives way more than me
trying to take my energy to godo some shit to them. I don't

(29:03):
got time for that shit, bro. I take all my energy and focus
my shit on being creative, youget what I'm saying. I got my
ship to do, I got mymusic. I gotta do. If I
got an acting script, I gottawork on. I'm waking up at four
in the morning. Bro, I'mdrinking coffee. I'm sending out emails.
I'm trying to work on this script. I'm trying to practice, rehearse this

(29:23):
song. I'm writing this song inthe morning. Or you get what I'm
saying. Or I'm waking up andi got my studio at the crib and
I'm recording this song, or youfeel me on I'm working on the marketing
strategy for my store because I gotto own a store in Oakland, a
gift shop. This nigga's a Jamaican. I am a Jamaican for sure.

(29:44):
Yeah. Ellen, shit, hegot a story out of the back.
He got a story. He arapper. He do videos. That nigga.
Know what I host? I didn'tseeing him gradim Mike oh Man.
You know it's a good all.The ship host the West Coast Hip Hop
Awards from ten years straight in LosAngeles, Seattle, Las Vegas at the
LA Convention Center. That's been goingon. I've been seeing that ship that
I host that every year. Wow, that's beautiful. I host a lot

(30:07):
of events. I host Matt dreBirthday at the Fox Theater. Okay,
you know I've seen that. I'veseen that host a lot of stuff with
Little John and on them. Yeah, sure, yeah, I host a
lot of events, bro. Youknow, it's just like the parties and
all that type of stuff, youknow, the party hosting when I when
people sign me hit me up todo a party host and they'd be like
they want me to do a walkthrough. You know, I'm just come
hang out and kick it. Youknow, the niggas on the microphone at

(30:29):
the party hosting. You know,that's feel more Mike. You know what
I'm saying. They need they needto feel Mike to do that shit.
You know what I'm saying. Theywant me to come because they know I'm
coming. Anna, So what's fame? You know what I'm saying? You
know what the crazy part about itis, right, it's like, yeah,

(30:52):
people favor you know what I mean? It is fa now you know,
just give us a reference down PMhere was like, man, I'm
up from my glasses zone. Rhetoricalquestions questions. Good, what is fame?
You know? Hey? But thetruth is this though, it was
like what I learned is like Isee people who like feel like they hell

(31:14):
of famous or hell of popular,right, talk about it whatever, you
know. But when I go placeslike around the world or like the nation
or wherever we're going, like differentcities, it'd be really people there that'd
be like I'm pee, like theyknow me and I know them because I've
been there or whatever. Like Itoured with you know, with no limit.
We went all around like I did, music everywhere. And it was
a time when I was independent,just by myself. Where I got a

(31:37):
van. I wrapped a van myself, you know what I mean. And
I hopped in that van and Idrove from San Diego all the way to
spoke. Seemed like the chopp ofNigga that I would do that. Yeah,
I wrapped a van, I drovedown to San Diego, got on
I five, started there, andthen drove from San Diego all the way
up to Spokane, and I stoppedat every little major city on the way

(31:59):
and stopped all the rapper stops.Rappers don't do that enough, you know
what I mean. Rappers don't justhop in vans. Yeah, And I
got in there and got on therock I need to go, and I
met so many people. Matter offact, that's when I met the dude
who throw the West Coast Hip HopAwards. That's when I met him that
many years ago. My first album, I stopped at a store at the
one Stop right there, you knowwhat I mean, on killings Worth out

(32:22):
there in Portland, Oregon. Ohyeah, Northeast stop right there at the
one Stop, and I took myrecords there, and I had records and
tapes and I put them all onthat mar Luther King right off Martin Luther
King put all my tapes and CDson the counter, and I sat there
in the store all day until Isold every last one of them. Hustler
stat right there and then and thenI left, you feel me? And

(32:43):
then they was like, bro,this dude crazy. And then they was
like he gonna come out here allhis music. I'm shaking every fan everything,
you know what I'm saying. Andthen boom after that, they was
like, bro, we need youto come back for this show. And
so you know that, they keptbooking me bringing me back. That's how
I got back to Seattle and theybooked me a show to do with Kanye
West. You know what I'm saying. So That's how I did the show

(33:05):
with Kanye because they booked me tocome back out there to Seattle, to
China Harbor. You did the showwith Kanye West, Sir, you met
Michael Jackson. I did this niggaright here. But okay, so look,
man, what song you want usto play? Man? Come on,
man, we got we got,we got cash and Go. We
got the one with RB I meanBlack Sea of RBL. Yeah, play

(33:30):
that one. Play that one.That's the new one. Man, It's
Cash and Go remix with my dogRBL from Black Sea. You know what
I'm saying? Straight like that gotyou? Hold on one second. We're
gonna put this bad Boy on thenew album Neighborhood Superstars out right now,
go get that everywhere, damn getthe album. Man to Wash Your Back

(33:51):
podcast? Feel my mic oh tryingto get it about of here, boot
yep oh, there you go,all right for saying this bad boy.
Man, let's turn this bad Boyon. Don p is to Wash Your

(34:12):
Back podcast made feel on my Idon't know why it's not sticking. Click
usually stick. Okay, boot shouldwe wind this bad Boy for my nigga
sho, that's out the cookies astaff man. They keep your boy so
dipped my dog. Burner off top. Let him know we litting this thing.
Hold on it might Peter Jack twoJack thet want to introduced me to

(34:34):
burner. It's muted on the video. Oh that's what is technicals good?
What's the mud of underneath the boar? Pick it up some more? Click
on your heads, boom and it'smuder the two Christina jumps. You do?

(35:28):
Is it good? O here sYeah, that's a nice drink.
Onna get it easy as it mightsee in the one way to Chicken on
the corner service your creek. Guessyou dipping in the binds or the night

(35:49):
no free smoke onney answer, yeah, there we go, ye, because
I slided from We gotta do itright, man, it's only right that
we do it right, man.Word down, pe on this bad boys.
One of six point one cam yelluh I know I'm from one of

(36:10):
six point one km yell uh downp official video right here. It's called
cash and Go. It's the remix. Ye, yeah, that's for hump.
Yeah that's the shop. Don't askme that I asked the help.
You better ask the hump. Youbetter asked to help. Yeah, I'm
hearing a record look better than mycompetitors. Niggas claim they up, but
it never be what they said.It was. How these jokers acting.

(36:32):
I'm thinking we got them scatter ofus niggas smoking crack. If they're thinking
they got ahead of at it,I'm still serving Honey's ice cream. You
wanna be a cash money millionaire?That's a nice dream carder. Look,
it ain't easy as it might seem. Long way from dripping on the corner
serving white cream. Catch me dippingin the beans or the lack no free
smoke? I need ends for thepack facts got me sending packs to the

(36:53):
future. Had to hit him withthe remix. You know how to do
it. All I wanna do iscatch cashing up to cash and Cup touch
crash and Cup can't jump in thewood. Put the gas and smoke.
Put the cass and smoke. Putthe gass of smoke. Never go and
go cre that's the show. Yeah, that's the shock grass the shot.
Ask me better ask that home,You better ask the hope, You better

(37:15):
ask the huck. Hey, youput it on the petal, moving heavy
in the ship and you gotta keepyour metal on me you get dearly in
the ship. All I wanna dois grind and recop and come again.
And when that's a separate stocks tothe blocks that I'm being up in the
the game. But when menut,it ain't no time to waste. My
only goal is to get it eachand every day. Every better ask the
hope. All I did was touchcash and go and then my stash his

(37:36):
smoke. I'm getting delt. Ohmy, when's a custom ship that's riding
ever block smoke? When I'm dumpin this my pick bitch fell that she
get it from her mom, butshe wouldn't be getting money boar away from
the drama. So all I wannado is touch cash and cup? Why
this cash and come touch crash andcup jump in the wood like the gas
of smoke lit the gas smoke hitthe gas of smoke. Never go and

(37:58):
go cre that's the show up.That's suck. Yeah, that's suck.
Don't ask me better ask the hump, you better ask to help you better
ask the hump. Yes, sir, yes, sir, it's right.
Yeah, that's that cash and goman, real real, real talk man,
you know, shouts out to thelocal crew car club man you know

(38:21):
what I'm saying for pulling up onthe homie, the local coup Crew club.
They pulled up on me. Shoutsout to them. You know what
I'm saying, Oh they had youlived in there, man, you had
the old schools out. Yeah,I know you got one of two.
You ain't got sixteen yea, yeah, yeah, I don't got them.
Ain't all mine. You know whatI'm saying, They ain't all mine.
I ain't gonna lie to you.People be trying to act like it's hella
raw to have hell of cars,But man, I don't know if y'all

(38:44):
know. I don't know if y'allknow he's seeing gas prices. Nah,
it ain't that, it's it's it'syeah, the up key, they don't
know about them. Then if youdon't got an insurance on every single car,
the tags and all that, thenyou gotta get the non operating parking
permits and stuff for the other carsthat's marked in the garage, like the
other cars that I'm not even driving. Now, they like, you gotta

(39:04):
put a non operating permit or yougotta keep paying the insurance, keep updating
the registrations. And I want topull it out every now and then,
and then the yeah they told it. You know if it's not like,
Bro, this car, it's notbothering nobody. Bro, this in from
my crib. What do you say? Like, Bro, in the street
sweeping right, the street sweeping.Now, I got to go outside and

(39:25):
moved two cars to the other sideof the street. Like, Bro,
that shit got tired. And youknow how it is in Frisco. You
know what I'm saying. You know, crib over there, you know,
And Bro, I had a sixtynine Skylark. Brother, they told me,
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.And I was so young that I
was scared to cry. I wasscared to even tell my parents about it.
Right, But I should have toldhim because we would have kept the

(39:45):
old school. But anyway, theywould have just would and pulled it out.
They would have got it out.But I was so scared and like
dumb groofed up like that. Youwas like, I don't want to say
nothing exactly stupid anyway, But wegotta stopped do when that talk about it.
No, we gotta stop doing thattype of stuff. Real, No,
bro, listen, listen, thisis the other thing. Like literally,

(40:07):
Bro, if somebody do you wrongand they violate your rights, and
do bro soothe them? Bro straightup, Bro, stop being scared to
go do the legal thing that you'resupposed to do. Moms, mothers,
Black mothers. I want to talkto y'all real quick. I love y'all.
I just want to briefly say somethingto y'all real quick. When they

(40:30):
got your son down there at theprestinct, don't be scared to go down
there and get your baby up outof there. Let them know, because
I'm gonna be honest with you.Other folks gonna go down to the precinct
and say, where's my son?Right? Where's my boy? Bring them
out here right now? Right theybusting in, where's my child? Y'all?

(40:53):
Man handling my boy in here?Bring them out here. Talk to
them. That's what they gonna say. Huh. But are people who at
the house scared, Oh, theygot your mall down there at the precinct.
What do you do? I don'tknow? Uh shit, he might
have did it. Don't just assumeyour kids is guilty up out of there,
like, don't just say yeah,come on, man, Stop leaving
it up to them to figure outwhat happened with your kid. Man,

(41:16):
go down there and protect your kid. Go get your kid. That's all
I'm saying, Like, protect yourchildren. Go down there. If they
got my boy, I'm not scared, bro, I ain't broke no laws.
I know. I'm a nigga allthat. I don't care. I'm
going to get my son. Iwant to see my son, bring him
out here right now. Facts.Hey, dude, don't say nothing.

(41:36):
Shut up your lawyer coming right,you feel me, Go get your kids,
man, Yeah, that's all Iwant to say. Like, I
feel like we need to take moremore an initiative. And we're always talking
about the laws and how the shipdon't work for us, but we ain't
using them. We're not using themcorrectly. We're not using them correctly.
Right, So use the laws thatwe're ignorant to what we need to do

(41:58):
to implement what we need. Yea, we're scared, bro, Bro,
We're scared. People be so scared. You feel me. We're so scared
to go fill out the paperwork,scared to go down there. Like I'm
gonna keep it real. Niggas thinkif they go to the prestinct, they
gonna get kept down there, right, Nigga's scared to go down there because
they think they gonna get kept rightstraight up, that's that's that's all right

(42:22):
there, Like bro, do Igotta warrant if I go down there to
try to save yo ass, they'regonna end up keeping me. You know
what I'm saying, Like, Nigga, good luck, Nigga, let me
call Jerry Jerry Barrel Bonds to getyou out. You know what I'm saying.
It's like, but that ain't howwe need to operate. You know
what I'm saying. We need somebodywho don't got no felonies to go down
there and get our people out right. You know what I'm saying. This

(42:45):
is the type of stuff we needto start doing if we want to protect
ourselves talk. You know what Imean, if we just follow the law,
like literally certain laws, like followthem the way they're supposed to be
done, do the stuff that we'resupposed to do. The point we may
not think the law is so bad. Yeah, we might not think so
it sucks so much because it'll beworking for us and against us. You

(43:06):
know what I'm saying. Right,Like when when when brothers stood out there
armed and they could you know,they could legally carry weapons and they stood
in the straight line with their weaponsand it was legal. Nobody could say
nothing. They legally had their weapons. Bro. Stop being scared. Bro,
Why you got the gun under yourjacket? Bro? Why are you
over there hide and being shifty?Bro? It's legal right like everybody else.

(43:28):
You're making us nervous. How youacted the weird shiftingness that shit.
Take off the spools, take thegun and I quit stashing it. Bro,
Bro, be legit top. Youknow what I'm saying. That's it.
That's all you gotta do, andwe could survive more. And if
we got more brothers and sisters doingthat it looked doper it would we will
be able to protect our commies alot better because people would be like,

(43:49):
Bro, these are smart individuals.You can't just go do and have the
man. I'm saying too much.No, you keeping you. I'm just
not saying too much. Bro.You keeping it real because a lot of
times we're ignorant to these things.And it's like if we would have only
knew that we could have did thisinstead of acting a certain way. We're

(44:10):
just talking about this some street sohoordersbe who you are be who you is
to you With the car, Bro, I so many stupid ass cars that
I lost. You feel me thatI left or whatever you say exactly,
I was just being dumb, youknow the whole Come on, bro,
we got a song in our outhere, that's one of our favorite songs.
It shots out to them, shoutsout to the rapper who said it.

(44:32):
But it's a mentality here in thebay where artists said I ain't never,
I ain't had els since poc dotshot out right right right, that's
the mentality out here where it's likeniggas riding around with no elves right,
and it's it's it's it's it's athing. You know what I'm saying.
It's like, Bro, you couldgo get that fixed up. It's your

(44:52):
life to feel into appears boy,just go pay the ticket, my boy,
Like I'm less here to you forreal, team, you know what
I'm saying. But yeah, becauseliterally, that's that's something when you talked
about the growth, you know whatI mean? The growth that I had

(45:13):
is learning stuff like that, whereaslike how could I stay out of trouble?
Right? You know what I mean? Like how I don't have to
do this, Yeah, how doI stay out of trouble? Oh?
Okay. Also, it's almost likeI got my license, cause, let
me tell you the difference. WhenI didn't have my license and I got
pulled over, they was all upin my whip, finding all the ship
I had stash. They was doingevery It was a bad night. Right

(45:35):
when I had my license, insuranceand everything, I was cocky. What
y'all for me? Y'all was forreal? For really, I'll be helicopter.
I'm like, Oho, bro,he like, bro, tell like,
bro, what are you talking about? Bro? Right? Bro?
I can't right? You know whatI'm saying. Hey, you know what
I'm saying. Hey, It's likeit's like, uh, you know what
I'm saying. It's like when peoplewas like in the South, right,

(45:59):
you oh, why they celebrate aJuneteenth right because niggas didn't know that they
was free. Nigga, you arefree? Yeah, yeah, you know.
You don't gotta be working with thiswhite man. You are free.
It's just the laws. All I'msaying is it's just knowing the law.
You know what I mean. I'mI'm I'm I'm yeah, I'm they're betting
on you not know I'm sleeping mycar, right. I'm in front of

(46:22):
my house, right, but I'msleeping the car because I got a little
baby and I can't smoke in thehouse. I can't smoke around the back,
so I go out to the car. I'm gonna smoke real quick,
right, yeah, but I fallasleep because I'm writing wraps and everything.
But I'm writing front right. Butthey they don't care, like what is
this guy doing in this neighborhood?Like he don't supposed to be over here,

(46:43):
right, So somebody calls. Theythey somebody call, like this dude,
what is he doing in this neighborhood? Right? I'm like, bro,
this is my house right straight up. The lady called on me.
I'm like, this is my houseright right right. So I'm like oh,
They're like, she like get outthe car. I'm like, hold
on, check this out. Icracked the window. I said, here

(47:04):
you go. They go my license, they go my insurance, they go
on my registration. I am notgetting out the car straight up, go
do your job. But you knowwhat's upped though, you know what's up.
You feel me, And that's all. I just want more brothers to
do that, just just have yourstuff together as much as possible. I
know it's easier said than done,but all I'm saying is, if you
ask me what I learned, whatgrowing and the growth the most important.

(47:29):
One of the biggest keys I learnedis if I got my shit together,
can't nobody That's what I think.It can't nobody broke it s nigga,
Bro, I think that I gotmy shit together. Bro, you cannot
fuck with me. I'm gonna callthis episode bro, and you can't fuck
with me when I got my shittogether. That's all I'm saying. So

(47:51):
I encouraged brothers to go get theship together. Yeah, I appreciate you.
From somebody that got multiple businesses,multiple hustless, afraid to do it,
it is really actually doing it,paying taxes and all the ship.
He said it best man, getyour ship together, don Yeah, I
appreciate you having me. Listen,Man, you having me, nigga,

(48:12):
listen, listen check this out filmon man. Hey, look I take
over the interview and the heartbeat.But look, like I said, man,
the music, you know what Imean, it's real. Back to
the music real quick. The musicis where it all started, you know
what I mean? For me righthere in the Bay Area. Like I
said, I was pressing to tryto get I mean the first person I

(48:34):
went to was E forty and askedhim like, yo, you know,
went to the top of the foodI want to strike to forty. You
know what I'm saying, to tryto get but JT he didn't. But
he didn't sign me at that time. You know what, he didn't sign
me. You know, he didn'teven work with me at that time.
But he was telling me keep going. You know you got you know,
you got potential for But the endof the day, I took that as

(48:57):
fuel when he didn't sign me thatday, right, and I went out
and I started grinding and doing mything beautiful, you know what I mean.
And then when I seen him again, I had my whole CDs tapes
pressed up, flyers everything. Iseen him at the Impact convention in Reno,
and I handed him with flyer.He looked at it and said,

(49:19):
damn, you put that together quick. That was his exact worst, right,
he said, damn you put thattogether quick, playboy straight up and
then and it was just pure loveand respect from that from their own but
shots out to forty water. ButI was trying to tell you earlier that
I was in the studio over atPajama Studio in Oakland, Okay, you
know what I mean. You know, the legendary Pajama Studio to pac everybody

(49:40):
the forty beats digital and everybody.So we're over at the legendary Pajama Studio.
My my folks is in there andmaking the beats for the Heat compilation,
you know what I'm saying, Thebig compilation that came out here in
the Bay Area that featured a lotof people. I think even Snoop was
on there, and it was adope compilation. And basically, truthfully,

(50:02):
bro uh DEMSSI was in there.Fortys in there. Spice one's in there,
right, But Spice one he kindof disappeared off into a room somewhere.
I don't know where he went,right and and and basically forty is
sitting on the floor right here nextto me. I'm writing my rat forty
right in his rat, you knowwhat I'm saying. But Spice one,

(50:23):
I don't know where he went.They So forty was like, let Brad
rat So I went in there andthe boof and did my ship. But
this is the first time I evergot down with any of them. You
know what I'm saying. Forty waslike, hell, I was hella nervous,
I ain't bro, I'm not inthe front bros. Nervous is fun.
Bro. It was e forty.You know what I'm saying, Like

(50:45):
the big dog right here, right, And then he's telling me like go
ahead. But he could hear me, you know, mouthing my ship while
I'm writing it, so he couldsee he could see it. I he
right, yeah, he he right, he's be legit right, Yeah,
I know, Queen be writing likea right Big Rich. Big Rich was

(51:06):
the first thing that I seen.He had a sidekick. He wrote his
rhyme on a sidekick shot. Iwrite my shit in the phone side kick.
We used to do all that.But I freestylet sometimes some of the
dopest shit, like you know whatI mean, Like one of my songs,
I hit the radio, You're withme, I freestylet that whole song.
O. You know what I'm saying, Some of the bars. Sometimes
it's just it just comes like that, you feel me, But you know
what I'm saying. Forty was likelet him, let Brud do his thing.

(51:27):
And when I was done. Hewas like yeah, like you I
seen him look at the engineer likeyeah, yeah, yeah, And that
was it. And that was onGorilla Milk, you know what I'm saying,
a song called Gorilla Milk that endedup coming out with me and Eat
Fody, you know what I'm saying. So that was like, like I
said, shouts out to Eat fodifinitelygave me my you know, my first
break on that record. And thenthe Heat compilation came out and I had

(51:47):
another song on their car, Heartbreak, which they end up putting my song
as the first song, and thenGorilla Milk was the second song, so
I was on the first and secondsong on that compilation. So it was
a lot of love during that time. And then that's when I said JT
the biggest figure with the you knowwhat I mean, the Phil Motor Hunters
Point compilation, then the Messy Marvand then the Mob Figures, you know,

(52:10):
Rest in Peace to the Jacka Sebolpresents the Mob Figures. Yeah,
I'm featured on that album too,Sparking Flames, you know what I'm saying.
You can go listen. It's theMob Niggas. Yeah, and that
niggas ain't in the faking Yeah,you know what I'm saying. So you
know, uh, that's that's arecord that I did with them, some
ship with Fote. It's records thatI did with a lot of people here

(52:31):
in the Bay Area man that youknow, you just might not know that's
don p On there, But golisten to some of them records, man,
go back and listen to some classicrecords. Man. I got a
lot of classic music. And Ifeel like people be out here they wonder,
like they see me at the VIPsection or they see me doing all
this stuff. They see me atthe BET Awards because I was just at
the BET Awards. You know whatI'm saying. They see me doing this

(52:52):
type of Nah. You know whatif they for one billion but they ain't
one at three? So I wasfifty ain't bt man, And you know
what, stop to fifty cent becauseyou know what I mean? I had
this some mixtape ship with fifty centto a record with him and yeah,

(53:13):
the one everybody, Yeah, Idid. You know what I'm saying,
Nah, nah na listen. Soso basically resten, okay, okay,
So I'm in I'm in Carolina.You know what I'm saying, doing music
rapping, You know what I mean. I told you how I ran up
on Puffy. Yeah, I ranup on Puffy and said you ain't signing
nobody from the West Coast. Puffsaid you got your demo. I was

(53:35):
hell of mad because I left mydemo in my room. Right. I
had my demo though, Right,But I was going to the swimming pool.
See stopped swimming while she was goingto swim. I was going to
swim, So I left my situpstairs. So when I ran up to
go back to get it, Ihopped in the elevator with Biggie in Faith.
Oh wow, Oh that's how yougot. That's how I'm That's how
I got. Met Biggie in faith, you know what I'm saying. And

(53:55):
I'm like, I'm in the elevatorand I can hear his Biggie breathing like
this, right, Hey, lookI swear to God. Right. So
but it's Big Papa though, right, Look bro, look it's Big Popa
though, right he like it's noTorrius bro I faith, she hella quiet,

(54:17):
she held a beautiful she got herfur. But Biggie is the It's
just me, him and her andthe elevator is hella quiet? And you
could just hear this, nigga.And so I'm like, I'm like,
I can't think of nothing else tosay. But he got on a kogie
sweater, right, I can't thinkof any other words. It's the only
stupid fucking words I could come upwith after watching Big Papa dancing around,

(54:40):
and shit is man, that's adope sweater. Bro, That's the only
thing I could come up with,right, That's the only thing I can
say. And guess what he said, Thanks Duke, That's what he said.
It was thanks Duke. That wasit shit, So you know,

(55:05):
hey, but the end of theday, bro, it was it was
a great experience, bro, youknow what I'm saying, Like, right,
And then Tupac around that same time, he came out there to do
a show with the X Clan andthis was right after Juice, you know
what I'm saying, right, andthe movie was popping in, and you
know, the show was crazy becauseit wasn't really sold out or nothing,
you know what I mean. Andmy homies owned the club because I always

(55:25):
you know, I always tap inwith promoters, always been like this,
Just so y'all know, club promoters, parties events. You know what I
mean. I've always been the personthat been at that type of stuff.
I've been having that type of energyno matter what city I was in.
You know what I'm saying. Iknow people all around the country where I
still could pull up to the clubright now, they're gonna be like,

(55:45):
do pe you feel me? So? But I'm established that relationship. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying, Like, I have fun with people,
and I make genuine connections with people. And I want to say that to
upcoming artists too, like don't belike, don't be fake, like when
you get out there and you meetpeople, make genuine connections. Because I
got people right now that I stillgo back to their city and they mind.

(56:07):
They'd be like, man, mymom miss you, bro. She
you know she gonna make that thatdish that you like. You know what
I'm saying, when you come throughshe you know Mom's making the lumpis or
whatever it is. You know whatI'm saying, because you know, I
show love and respect when I wasthere in that in that in that town.
So network, but be genuine though, you know what I'm saying,
Be authentic with the people that youconnect with because it's about the music,

(56:30):
but it's also about connecting with peopleyou know and letting them know that you
were a real person, that youreal human, that you're real solid,
and that the music you make comesfrom the person, and that the music
ain't the person. You know whatI'm saying, Like the person makes the
music, you know. I wantpeople to understand that, like I make
not just saying rapping. Yeah,I'm not just rapping and saying a bunch

(56:52):
of random shit, Like I wanty'all to know, like you know what
I mean, like, yeah,this is me, Like find a way.
That's what's your favorite part about performing? Like today, I just performed
at Kelly Fest out there in Berkeley. Shouts out to Kelly Fest. I
don't know if y'all seen it,but coming across the Bay Bridge, they
got all those billboards, they gotus all over, they got my face

(57:13):
plastered all over Hella billboards. Soshouts out to Kelli Fest. I performed
over there today and then we're goingback again September eighteen out there in Berkeley
at the Civic UH Berkeley Center.UH September eighteen, Berkeley seventh Civic Civic
Center, yep, when can theyfind your handle? Give me your Instagram?
My Instagram was easy, bro,Hey listen, listen. So you

(57:37):
know Filmore was telling you earlier that'sa lot of domps out there, so
we don't want you to get lost, misnavigated, you know what I'm saying,
and lost in the sauce. ButI will tell you this. Shots
out to Spotify because when throughout allthe bullshit and all the fake don ps,
they was like, nah, youthe real dome and they gave me

(58:00):
that. Shouts out to Spotify forgiving me my blue check and making sure
that all the rest of these suckerscan go ahead and find something else to
do. You know what I'm saying, Go find something safety, Go find
something else to do. Man,it's only one don P Man. We're
not gonna play them type of gamesno more. You know what I'm saying.
And that's what getting back to themusic is all about. So shouts

(58:21):
out the Empire, Shouts out toGazi, Shouts out to Tina Davis,
Nima and Furious all the people overan empire that helped push my music through
and push it out everywhere, andthe whole team over there because they inspired
me to keep going, you knowwhat I mean, Because like I said,
I was doing the magazine, doingradio, helping a lot of other
artists, like I work with Keepthe Sneaks, shouts out to keep the

(58:42):
Sneaks. You know what I'm saying. That's homie, you know what I
mean. I do a lot ofwork with him, management with him.
You know what I'm saying, booksand stuff like that. So I took
a break from being an artist,you know, to work with a lot
of other artists because I felt likeI had something to give back, you
know, and I still do.I still help. So any anytime anybody
need me or need any help,they hit my phone. My line always
open. Give me up at donP Official on Instagram. You know what

(59:06):
I'm saying, Don P Official.And again, if you're looking for me
on Spotify, you ain't gotta typein nothing extra man, just type in
don P Man because they bless mewith the blue check you feel me straight
like that. If you're on YouTubelooking for me, it's don P Official.
You know what I'm saying. I'mjust keeping everything official. And you
know what else, No, Idon't I got at don P on TikTok.
You got what I really because youknow how it's hard to get your

(59:29):
name. So you know when youget on all these new apps come out
of something. You know, youtry to get your name. Always somebody
trying to get your name and shit, you know what I'm feeling on That's
why I'm on Twitter. If youget what I'm saying. So you see
the funny business already somebody who else'sfilm on Mike know the man? His
name? Man? Good playing man? You just stole the man name.
What you're gonna do? You're evendoing nothing with it? That's what I

(59:51):
mean though, bro. So youknow, but I was able to get
don P on TikTok, so youcan go to TikTok and get at don
P. I ain't on there makingno dancing videos, no shit like,
no no twerking. You know whatI'm saying. I ain't do no twerking.
But if I get some videos andfilm on Mike tworking, I'm gonna
post them all those stuff you mightasker. I might be doing a get
load, but we're gonna get lowone time. Hey shouts out to the

(01:00:14):
get load crew. Though that's youknow. You didn't let me finish my
Rushmore, Yeah, go ahead,Tupac, yeah, Snoop? Yeah?
Who you know who else is dopeto me? A weekend? He's not
a rapper. He ain't a rapper. You said it, don't gotta be
a rapper, I said, no, I asked you about your singers.

(01:00:37):
But the weekend is cool. Theweekend. I don't like the weekend.
You don't iep. But he adope ass writer though, Bro. Yeah,
that's what I liked about him.But I'm gonna tell you what I
liked. I just liked his writing. I just felt like it was off
kilter. Okay, you know whatI'm saying. It wasn't normal, Like
he's not rapping them, He's notsinging about the normal. About Frank Ocean

(01:00:59):
too. I don't really listen tofriends. No, I ain't gonna lie
though, but that I felt likeI felt like weekend was way deeper.
But I felt like Weekend was waydeeper. And he talked about females and
like, you know, and keepyou, and he talked about shit that's
like, yeah, gangster shit.I'm saying, females, females kicking it,

(01:01:21):
you know what I'm saying. Andhe talking about you know, the
industry. Yeah, the weekend israw. I like I like how he
I like how he delivers his ship, and I think his shit is creative.
So so we're gonna have to havea part two. Yeah, for
sure. Man, you know whatI'm saying. We got it. You
gotta you got an interesting story ofinterest in life. Come on, man,

(01:01:42):
we're gonna have to get you downhere before I go, make sure
you go and watch the movie DeepIn You'll say, before I go,
make sure you're gonna watch your back, watch your back. Oh, I'm
gonna tell him that before I getout here. But I want him to
go watch the movie deep In It. Go watch that right now on Amazon
to be I'm in there. I'macting in that movie. Don't you was
acting like Iced Tea? Man,Listen, you know what I'm saying.

(01:02:06):
He shouts out to Iced Tea becausethat's one of my mentors. You feel
me. Iced Tea is one ofmy mentors, you feel me? Listen,
Listen, listen. My favorite,my favorite part from a movie that
made me want to be an actoris ice Cube in the car with Trey.
Remember when they're in the car.I gotta take my shades off of

(01:02:28):
this Okay, he say, dolet me out dough nice cube, go
like this ice cube iced tea icecube. Remember when he just let that
nigga out that shit? Maybe wantto be an actor right there? Bro,
I was like, that was sohard. You get what I'm saying.

(01:02:49):
So that's my acting style. Butyeah, go go go fuck around
with deep in It. Uh,soul Lake, that's a scary movie that
I just did, you know whatI mean? That's out on to be
right now. I was called soulLake and then Freaky Tales too short new
movie. I'm in that too,So make sure y'all check that out.
Man, check out everything it's gotgotta go on, man, don p
official Man is to Wash Your Backpodcast too more Mike and it's do me

(01:03:13):
a favorite. Don't forget to washyour Back. Thank you. That's a
perfect way to sign out this thing.
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